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00:00:15.140 So the letter that came out from Joe Kent, was it a power play?

00:00:19.500 Was it about the next election?

00:00:21.720 What does it all mean?

00:00:22.640 I just go through all of the facts and separate facts from opinion.

00:00:26.140 Also, MAGA 2028, how Trump is allowing a decision on who's going to replace him between Vance and Rubio.

00:00:37.460 Two separate paths that I think a lot of people have missed.

00:00:41.180 Also, what is happening with the Save America Act?

00:00:44.820 That and so much more on today's podcast.

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00:02:53.800 This whole time we've feared

00:03:00.440 We fought against Islamic terrorism

00:03:03.400 But the Islamist threat is even more terrifying than that

00:03:08.520 They're here

00:03:09.960 They've been here

00:03:11.560 They've waited

00:03:12.960 And faster than ever

00:03:14.920 They're making their moves

00:03:16.980 They're Islamists.

00:03:18.840 Islamists want the United States to resemble Islamic republics in the Middle East.

00:03:24.620 Our goal is to make America Islam.

00:03:26.620 Really?

00:03:27.060 Islamic State.

00:03:27.860 They're among us.

00:03:29.020 They're among our politicians, among our city leaders.

00:03:31.980 There's a template and a playbook that is in motion.

00:03:34.800 We're living here to shift this country's political direction.

00:03:38.340 Engaging in dawah, and dawah is essential.

00:03:40.660 And most of the Western world isn't even aware of what's happening.

00:03:44.700 As a doctor, I don't just treat symptoms. Terrorism is a symptom. The disease, the cancer, is political Islam.

00:03:51.760 It's incompatible with everything that America and the Western world stands for.

00:03:57.840 Honor violence, honor killings, child marriage. We have this idea that, oh, we can't judge other cultures.

00:04:04.780 And it's happening in more ways than you could imagine.

00:04:07.780 This is economic jihad.

00:04:09.780 So which side will win the ideological battle?

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00:05:02.320 I wanted to bring Jason Buttrell in with us,

00:05:05.980 chief researcher and also kind of head military guy.

00:05:11.660 I've been watching all of the stuff for military.

00:05:14.660 Love to hear your take on Joe Kent and what you think is happening.

00:05:22.300 Well, first of all, it really annoys me that some people are trying to just shut down all conversations on Joe Kent

00:05:31.220 because they refer back to his veteran status and what he has done in the past.

00:05:35.860 And he's done great stuff.

00:05:36.840 Which he's done great stuff.

00:05:38.000 Yeah.

00:05:38.100 and again hold two thoughts in your head at the same time you can do it it's called chewing gum

00:05:43.720 and walking you can do two things at once he can be a great military hero and something that you

00:05:52.980 got to go wait a minute what is happening here right because otherwise i am also a veteran i

00:05:57.400 also served in a in a foreign war in afghanistan i can break every single fcc rule that's out there

00:06:03.260 right now. I'm going to start right now. No, let's not. Oh, I thought that I was absolved.

00:06:08.180 No, you don't absolve. You don't get absolved because you are a veteran.

00:06:13.300 That was my one shot. I was just going to go for it.

00:06:15.360 No, no, really bad idea. So that for one irks me, but for two,

00:06:21.800 his shift in ideology is something that I cannot explain. I don't think anyone can explain right

00:06:28.940 now. You can't go from having the mindset that you had just a few years ago, probably just a few

00:06:34.780 months ago. I don't know when this shift happened, but you can't go from knowing that Iran is the

00:06:41.320 global state sponsor of terror, the number one, which he has said in the past. You can't go from

00:06:48.280 saying, look, we have to support Israel in this fight against Iran because they are so bad with

00:06:53.560 their proxies. Everything has destabilized the entire region and they threaten us. You believe

00:06:58.640 that. You say that Donald Trump during his first term should have gone farther. And these are the

00:07:07.080 things he lists off. Attacking nuclear sites, attacking their position, their ability to

00:07:11.980 project power outside the country, attacking proxies. You have to do that. Almost not a direct

00:07:17.560 quote, but pretty much around what he was saying was you need to address those things. I wish he

00:07:21.000 would have but he didn't but i trust the president has a plan everything he was describing a few

00:07:27.720 years ago is exactly what the war is looking like today so let me ask you

00:07:32.340 as we look for an answer on what happened the guy is crazy the guy's anti-semitic

00:07:42.540 There might be a really simple answer to this.

00:07:50.620 2028.

00:07:53.000 The MAGA world is up for grabs.

00:07:56.780 Donald Trump is not going to be the head of MAGA.

00:08:00.500 So what does MAGA mean?

00:08:04.180 That's what's being defined right now.

00:08:06.540 All of this just may be, I hate to be so cynical here.

00:08:10.940 And again, my opinion, but looking for things that make sense to me, everything is about power.

00:08:20.660 Everything is always about power.

00:08:23.180 Power, money, control.

00:08:26.120 And you have the biggest movement in America in my lifetime, MAGA.

00:08:33.500 And it's going to be handed off to somebody.

00:08:38.660 Somebody is going to take this.

00:08:40.420 Now, there are those that would say, split it.

00:08:45.800 So there is the left that would love to see us split.

00:08:50.220 But there are also those who have such different viewpoints on what MAGA should do.

00:09:00.420 They will not take on Donald Trump.

00:09:02.240 And this is my key point with Joe.

00:09:05.720 Joe, your argument is actually with Donald Trump.

00:09:07.700 If what you say is true, then your argument is with Donald Trump, because he's not a moron, he's not a patsy, he's not senile, he's not stupid.

00:09:18.080 I can guarantee you, I know, I know the man surrounds himself.

00:09:23.580 The guy spent 30 minutes on the phone with me one time, which he did not have to do, talking about trade.

00:09:30.540 I want to hear your argument against trade.

00:09:33.280 Tell me, tell me, why are you against tariffs?

00:09:37.700 He didn't need to do that, but he actually listened and engaged.

00:09:40.740 He surrounds himself with people who have his worldview, but he also, equally as important,

00:09:47.940 brings people in that have a different point of view.

00:09:50.560 So there's no way he just took all of the—he's too smart for—he knows that was the reason

00:09:56.700 we got into Iran—I mean, sorry, Iraq, weapons of mass destruction.

00:10:01.600 He has been preaching against that weapons of mass destruction live, George W. Bush,

00:10:05.840 since the day he said it so somebody walks into his office and says you know weapons of mass

00:10:11.040 destruction what do you think he's going to say what do you think he's going to say he's going to

00:10:16.840 say no i don't believe that show it to me okay so your argument has to be about donald trump

00:10:26.640 if you're Joe if you're Joe Kent but notice it's not why wouldn't you make it about Donald Trump

00:10:35.940 why would you say and you were the best president ever you just got us into a war that is serving

00:10:42.260 only Israel and not America if that's what you believe why would you say and it's an honor and

00:10:48.220 a kissy kissy kissy I love you so much you wouldn't say that unless you're trying to hold on to him

00:10:54.980 to be able to hold the people who are MAGA.

00:10:59.260 Notice Donald Trump, they're MAGA on both sides.

00:11:03.220 They're not split on Donald Trump, okay?

00:11:05.980 They're split on the policies, but he is the policy.

00:11:10.060 He is the guy making the policy.

00:11:12.540 But everybody who splits from him, they know.

00:11:16.180 Split from his policy, they know.

00:11:18.020 Keep him happy.

00:11:19.440 Keep him in line.

00:11:20.460 He's our guy.

00:11:21.120 He's our guy.

00:11:21.680 He's our guy.

00:11:22.220 But look at this policy.

00:11:23.460 This is horrible.

00:11:24.300 this is the worst thing ever it's the jews that are doing that well no excuse me if you believe

00:11:31.020 that then you have to say donald trump is in with the jews because he's not a moron

00:11:36.860 so he must knowingly be doing these things because that's what donald trump always said about

00:11:43.240 politicians why do we get into these wars why do we get into bad trade deals because our presidents

00:11:49.960 don't know what they're doing, and they're idiots. So if you believe Donald Trump is smart enough

00:11:55.560 to recognize that situation in others, then you have to say, if you believe what Joe Kent did,

00:12:03.300 you have to say, Donald Trump's smart enough to recognize he's in bed making the same mistakes

00:12:09.040 that all the other presidents made. But they don't do it. This is all about politics. This is about

00:12:17.200 the next election. Right now, you are being shaped. I want you to start looking at the news

00:12:25.380 in a different way. I want you to start looking at the news. This is so cynical and I hate this,

00:12:32.080 but I want you to start looking at all of the news when it comes to MAGA as who wins if I believe

00:12:40.260 this? What do they gain if I believe this? They gain half of MAGA. Because there is that split

00:12:53.140 going on right now. Am I wrong, Ricky? You see where I'm going? Oh, I see where you're going.

00:13:00.340 And honestly, there's probably some of these folks that would love nothing more than to have

00:13:04.880 president trump's endorsement exactly right so you can stay on his good side you have to have

00:13:11.620 his good side you have to remain on his good side if you want to hold any part of maga and both sides

00:13:19.140 of maga now love donald trump and i've not been able to work that out in my head how you're you're

00:13:26.760 going against all of his policies but he is the policy i mean i stood in the hallway with with

00:13:34.700 uh jd vance and marco rubio and had a conversation with beau and i've never seen any i've had

00:13:42.000 conversations at this level before and i've never seen politicians do this ever before

00:13:46.580 what is happening you guys are on fire right now both of them separately one jd came in after i was

00:13:53.560 talking to marco but marco was there when jd said it and i said marco just said the same thing

00:13:58.860 it's not us we go in every morning and he tells us this is what we're doing today we're just doing

00:14:05.620 it it's him it's him it's him so nobody's duping the president nobody is this is not the fault of

00:14:13.080 marco rubio not the fault of pete hegseth not the fault of of uh the cia it is donald trump

00:14:21.140 he deserves all the credit and all the blame if you don't like it you can't give him all the

00:14:28.300 credit and none of the blame. Otherwise, he's not the guy you think he is. And believe me,

00:14:36.720 he is the guy you think he is. So again, I don't have anything to back this up in fact,

00:14:46.340 so don't take my word as gospel. But I'm looking for things that make sense. This doesn't make

00:14:54.240 sense. He turned on a dime, turned on a dime. So that is either outside influence, which it could

00:15:03.480 be, or it's more cynical than that. It's, I see a way to play a role in MAGA after this president

00:15:17.720 is done. I'm positioning myself to play some role in MAGA 2028, and I'm putting my chips

00:15:25.340 in the anti-Israel MAGA movement. I think that's what's happening. Could be wrong.

00:15:35.440 Again, I just say we could solve this. Show me the proof. Show me the proof, Joe.

00:15:41.540 And by the way, Ricky just gave me a tweet that said, what was it? You said it was a tweet or was

00:15:47.080 there was lots of tweets about yesterday's commentary that went viral people are saying

00:15:51.580 i've never heard you tell anyone else i don't want your opinion i want facts until just now

00:15:56.200 no you can have an opinion but you need the facts first you have to have the facts first

00:16:03.980 that is something i've been saying for the last few weeks once we got into this war

00:16:07.680 i said i have been watching the news and everybody has an opinion everybody has an opinion can you

00:16:14.540 give me any facts first then tell me what it means i don't need your opinion you don't need

00:16:23.320 i said in that monologue yesterday i don't i don't want to be somebody where you're taking my opinion

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00:16:37.840 an opinion and they're both worth the same thing when it comes to things like this when we're

00:16:42.800 trying to figure things out, when we are looking at all of this, something this important, you have

00:16:50.360 to start with the facts. And again, because I know one of them said, Glenn, why don't you produce

00:16:57.140 your facts that it didn't happen? Did you grow up in Russia? Where'd you grow up? Because I grew up

00:17:05.000 in the United States of America. The accuser presents the facts. The accused is innocent

00:17:12.840 until proven guilty. So you could make that case. I might even believe you if you have the facts.

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00:18:50.400 so there are moments like i said uh where something small is the tell here and it's a

00:19:00.780 quiet move that reveals the whole strategy and what happened just a couple of days ago was one

00:19:07.340 of those moments a task force was announced on fraud and if it were any other administration

00:19:15.820 it would just be you know housekeeping it would be you know another headline another promise to

00:19:21.060 clean things up in Washington you know Washington creates task force all the time and they never

00:19:26.680 solve any of the problems but this one is different this one is different not because of

00:19:32.240 what it says on paper but because who is standing at the center of it Donald Trump started a task

00:19:39.800 Force on Corruption, led by J.D. Vance. So, who's standing there at the head of it is important,

00:19:47.620 and just as important is who is not. I want you to think of everything through the eyes of 2028,

00:19:56.400 and let's look at the board the way a strategist would look at it.

00:20:01.600 Where's Marco Rubio right now? Marco Rubio has more jobs than anybody I have ever met.

00:20:08.020 He is right now exactly where you'd expect him to be, deep in foreign policy, standing shoulder to shoulder with Donald Trump and the administration in one of the most volatile geopolitical moments in my lifetime.

00:20:26.920 This thing could be a miracle, could be a massacre, could be horrible in the end.

00:20:31.980 Don't know yet.

00:20:33.620 Iran, energy, global alliances, the risks of escalation into World War III.

00:20:39.560 This is the highest stakes I've ever seen a president play at.

00:20:43.500 High visibility, high risk, and whoever is with it is either a hero or a villain.

00:20:53.160 And if it works, there's stability.

00:20:55.660 There's lower oil prices.

00:20:58.260 There's a real peace dividend by 26 or 27, and Rubio will look like an amazing statesman.

00:21:06.600 He becomes the natural heir, the man who helps steady the world.

00:21:11.420 But if it doesn't, what happens to Rubio?

00:21:16.580 If the war drags, if the costs mount, if Americans feel it in their wallets and their son and daughters start coming home in boxes,

00:21:26.200 That position is an absolute anchor.

00:21:32.680 Now shift your focus here for a second.

00:21:34.480 We got Rubio, but I started talking about J.D. Vance, so let me go back to J.D. Vance.

00:21:38.900 Where's J.D. Vance?

00:21:41.020 Right now on this issue, where is J.D. Vance?

00:21:46.200 I've heard rumors he's not really with the president on this one, but I haven't seen

00:21:51.320 any statements, and I haven't seen the president say, yeah, he's kind of weak on this, nor

00:21:56.180 Normally, he would say something like, J.D. Vance is just not anywhere near this storm.

00:22:01.120 He's standing somewhere else entirely.

00:22:04.940 Donald Trump, say what you want about him, but the guy is a frickin' genius.

00:22:10.040 He is going to make sure that the America First idea, that MAGA, goes on well after him.

00:22:21.400 Because what did he do?

00:22:22.640 He's put J.D. Vance at the same time the war, fraud, corruption, government waste.

00:22:29.000 That's not accidental.

00:22:30.400 That is positioning.

00:22:32.660 Because what Trump said almost offhandedly is actually, I think, the thesis of the next election.

00:22:41.560 He said, and I quote, if we found half the fraud, we'd have a balanced budget.

00:22:49.740 That line is not about accounting.

00:22:52.640 that line is about framing. It reframes the entire economic argument away from the painful

00:23:00.420 choices, cuts, taxes, austerity, all the things that everybody else in every other country,

00:23:06.840 their politicians talk about. We've got to cut our way through austerity. We have to start doing

00:23:11.320 uh-uh. This would be emotionally unifying. The message is someone is stealing from you

00:23:20.380 and all we have to do is stop the threat

00:23:24.160 and stop the theft

00:23:26.260 and we're going to be okay

00:23:28.860 and not in theory

00:23:31.580 the story out of Minneapolis

00:23:34.740 billions of dollars siphoned from programs

00:23:37.760 meant for the vulnerable

00:23:39.320 I mean it just couldn't get any

00:23:42.660 I mean if I were writing a script

00:23:44.600 it couldn't get any better

00:23:46.220 wait you're taking the money from children who are hungry

00:23:50.080 If I'm writing a script, I've got my bad guy.

00:23:55.200 It gives the argument teeth, faces, numbers, outrage.

00:24:00.480 And now Vance is being handed the mandate to go find more, not quietly, publicly, relentlessly.

00:24:09.720 Trump even telegraphed this.

00:24:12.440 He said, this is not going to be ceremonial.

00:24:14.620 It won't be symbolic.

00:24:15.540 He said, quote, there's not going to be another czar with no title or with a title and no teeth.

00:24:21.200 Basically not going to be Kamala going down and trying to figure out what's happening with our border.

00:24:27.940 And that's the contrast he uses.

00:24:31.120 He defined in advance what leadership is supposed to look like.

00:24:36.060 And he assigned Vance the role of proving it.

00:24:40.260 Now let's step back from the whole board and look at the whole board again.

00:24:43.400 You have one potential successor tied to global outcomes that he can't fully control, but he's going to be tied with that.

00:24:55.080 Another one being given a domestic mission that can be prosecuted daily, case by case, headline by headline, building a narrative that feeds directly into the next campaign.

00:25:06.960 J.D. Vance is going to be the guy against Gavin Newsom

00:25:12.260 because he's going to find the corruption in California.

00:25:17.280 So that pits him against Newsom.

00:25:19.940 By 2028, we'll know what the Republican message will be.

00:25:28.560 Not just growth, not just strength abroad, but this.

00:25:34.240 Your government was looted.

00:25:36.960 The biggest theft in American history happened. Somebody robbed our treasury. And we can prove it. And we stopped it.

00:25:48.080 That's a pretty powerful argument against governors like Gavin Newsom or any other Democrat running on expanding programs and increasing spending and promising more systems.

00:25:57.660 because the counter is going to be simple.

00:26:01.500 Before you do more, can you explain why the system wasn't protected in your state the last time?

00:26:08.120 Can you explain where the money went?

00:26:11.300 Can you explain why no one in your state stopped it?

00:26:16.060 And if Vance is the one uncovering those answers,

00:26:18.940 if he becomes the face of that accountability,

00:26:21.900 then he isn't just part of the administration.

00:26:24.460 He becomes the argument.

00:26:27.660 Same thing with everything that is happening with Marco Rubio.

00:26:34.400 Marco Rubio will become the face of whatever it is that happens with not only this war, but the entire strategy of our foreign policy.

00:26:48.400 If it goes well, you have the possibility of the two best candidates I've ever seen in my lifetime.

00:26:54.040 because we will know on record what they are capable of doing.

00:26:59.400 We will have seen them in action.

00:27:02.900 This is how you build a successor without naming one.

00:27:06.620 You give them a lane.

00:27:08.480 You give them a mission.

00:27:10.960 You give them victories to see and feel,

00:27:14.380 but you also give them a place to fail.

00:27:17.200 If they're not going to be presidential,

00:27:20.420 if they're not the ones for the job, we'll know it

00:27:23.280 because they will have failed.

00:27:26.200 You let time do all the rest.

00:27:31.020 There's one condition that determines whether any of this works,

00:27:34.580 and that is the economy, because it always comes back to that.

00:27:39.380 If people are working, if wages stabilize,

00:27:43.060 if the inflation cools,

00:27:45.580 then the fraud narrative becomes gasoline already on a moving engine.

00:27:49.680 If the economy is struggling, then even the most compelling corruption story isn't going to be enough.

00:27:57.600 But make no mistake on what is happening here.

00:28:00.500 This is not just about fraud.

00:28:02.380 This is about defining the battlefield of the next election.

00:28:05.980 And quietly, without a speech, without a rally, without a declaration, Trump just put two pieces on the board.

00:28:15.920 You watch those two pieces.

00:28:19.680 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:28:29.920 We're just talking on the Insider podcast.

00:28:34.140 That is what happens during commercials.

00:28:36.280 And usually we're filling in with stuff that we just didn't have time for.

00:28:39.540 And I didn't get a chance to talk about how if you have a grocery store now in Washington State, you're not allowed.

00:28:44.880 I mean, you leave, but they're claiming now that that can be the state's property because it's essential.

00:28:50.260 So you can't sell the grocery store and leave.

00:28:54.300 You're providing an essential service, so the state will just take it.

00:28:57.420 The other thing is there is a bill in Olympia, Washington.

00:29:03.080 Get this one.

00:29:04.100 Okay, they can't hire any police officers in Washington State.

00:29:06.540 Why?

00:29:07.360 Oh, I don't know.

00:29:08.320 Police just don't want to work here for some reason.

00:29:10.800 I wonder why.

00:29:11.840 So they can't hire any police officers.

00:29:13.560 So what are they doing?

00:29:14.880 They are actually making it full police powers, carrying a weapon, enforcing the laws of Washington State, making arrests, all of that, if you are a non-citizen.

00:29:28.680 According to Senate Bill 5068, legislation allow non-U.S. citizens to become law enforcement officers and prosecutors.

00:29:38.980 People who are here illegally enforcing the law and being the prosecutors.

00:29:44.100 oh my god what get out get out get out okay uh let me go to rachel uh rachel bovard she is um

00:29:54.780 cpi vice president of programs uh and she has made the best case online she can make all of this

00:30:03.120 bullcrap senate speak understandable uh because you know we've got the save act coming and we've

00:30:09.780 got john cornyn on our side now it's fixed john thune he's still a little skeptical but cornyn's

00:30:16.100 on our side so rachel is here to tell us uh exactly what is happening with the save america act

00:30:23.340 how this is working and what we should expect rachel hi rachel hi there great to be back

00:30:29.420 thanks for having me thank you so what is actually happening with this so after months at this point

00:30:39.300 of the Senate Republicans resisting doing anything on the Save America Act because they don't have

00:30:44.300 the votes. They can't do it. John Doon, to his credit, has actually moved to proceed to the

00:30:48.780 House-passed bill. He did that yesterday. So what that means is the Senate is what we call

00:30:53.740 on the bill. It is the pending business before the Senate, and they are now debating it. So

00:30:58.740 once they got on the bill yesterday, and that took the votes of Mitch McConnell voting yes,

00:31:04.860 even though he opposes the bill. Lisa Murkowski voting no, and Tom Tillis taking a walk and not

00:31:10.700 even showing up to the vote. But they got the 51 votes necessary to be on the bill. And at that

00:31:15.580 point, John Thune came down to the floor and filled the amendment tree, which is just a fancy way of

00:31:21.540 saying he blocked Democrats from being able to offer any amendments. And he put before the Senate

00:31:27.780 the changes that President Trump has asked to see in the bill. So mail-in balloting,

00:31:32.460 limitations on or bans of trans surgeries for minors, protecting girls sports, things like that.

00:31:39.620 So the Senate is now in a period of deliberation. And I will say because the way the Senate has

00:31:45.640 operated for the last 20 years is a historical aberration from the way the Senate operated for

00:31:49.620 200 years. What normally happens is you bring the bill to the, you know, in the last 20 years is

00:31:54.300 they brought a bill to the floor and the leader immediately files cloture, which is how the Senate

00:31:59.020 ends debate. He does this before the Senate has any debate, right? And then the bill dies at 60

00:32:04.180 votes. We all shrug our shoulders and go home. This is the way I remember the Senate working.

00:32:12.480 The Senate was the great deliberative body and they would stand there sometimes for days and

00:32:17.060 debate stuff. I haven't seen this since maybe, maybe George W. Bush. Right. People still have

00:32:25.360 living memories of the Senate actually functioning. It's amazing. But the fact that John Thune went

00:32:34.140 down to the floor and didn't file cloture, he did fill the amendment tree, which limits what

00:32:37.880 can happen, but he didn't file cloture immediately. Just that simple fact means that right now the

00:32:44.200 Senate floor is the most open that it's been in maybe a decade. It's remarkable. So what does

00:32:50.720 senate republicans do now is up for debate right like they actually do are debating the bill but

00:32:56.980 like we want to see them actually put some effort into this deliberative process which many of the

00:33:01.340 senators themselves on the republican side have never seen right the newer senators have never

00:33:05.280 witnessed a senate like this so we'd like to see them lean into the process but i think you know

00:33:10.480 i'm not willing to give johnson a million bucks of credit but he does get some from me in my book

00:33:15.340 by just actually doing this, starting the process.

00:33:18.160 So do we stop calling them or writing or, I mean, what, is this just a show?

00:33:26.200 Well, that's the question.

00:33:27.760 And I think, you know, we are only in this position because the conservative movement

00:33:32.420 demanded it and they demanded it without ceasing.

00:33:35.720 And John Thune, again, you know, I think felt like he had to do something.

00:33:39.140 And so that's the question now.

00:33:40.300 Is this all going to be performative or are we going to actually see the Senate trying

00:33:44.840 deliberate because what deliberation is, is the Senate doing what it's for, trying to build

00:33:50.540 consensus, trying to physically punish obstruction, right? By forcing Democrats to the floor to talk,

00:33:57.020 forcing them into this negotiation, letting them know as a matter of procedure and a matter of time

00:34:02.100 that Republicans are not going to let up here. Even if they have to pivot to fund DHS or they

00:34:08.220 have to pivot to confirm Mark Wayne Mullen or, you know, pass FISA, they can still come back to

00:34:14.220 this bill. And I think that's what we now want to see John Thune telegraph, that this is just not

00:34:18.440 a one and done exercise, that yeah, the Senate will be on this bill for the next week. But if

00:34:21.960 he puts up a cloture vote at the end of it and it doesn't get 60, that's just the beginning of

00:34:25.860 the process. Because remember, a cloture vote, which is how the Senate tries to end debate,

00:34:30.400 doesn't kill the bill. It simply says we don't have enough senators to end debate yet.

00:34:35.680 Let's come back to this. You know, John Thune should telegraph to all of us. This year,

00:34:39.600 we are going to do our darndest to pass this bill. And if it takes weeks, it takes months,

00:34:43.420 we're here to do it. Rachel, can I just be a little black rain cloud?

00:34:50.100 Yes, of course. I've been around long enough to know it's an election year. They're going to just

00:34:55.380 keep talking about this. We're doing our darndest boy. We're in here fighting like crazy. And then

00:35:00.260 the election will happen and then it's over. I mean, that's the way it always happens. I mean,

00:35:06.220 I hope this is different, but. Well, one of the reasons I think myself and a lot of people have

00:35:12.560 been proposing initially the talking filibuster on this bill in particular is because setting aside

00:35:18.460 the merits of the bill which are very good i just think it's good politics for the republicans i do

00:35:24.340 too right i don't think they've given the voters anything to turn out for and people don't remember

00:35:30.140 what you've done right they remember what you're doing that's the old political adage i think that

00:35:34.920 matters right now and so my hope was always republican senators would see the benefit in

00:35:40.420 actually putting their backs into it and seeing the benefit of actually trying to pass this bill

00:35:44.000 and once you start that momentum you hope they they pick it up so why don't they and we'll see

00:35:48.600 i think one i think there's a level of detachment that exists between republican voters on their

00:35:56.880 base particularly in the senate but two i think honestly the chamber and the republicans have

00:36:02.640 just been so inured to they've been habituated to this cycle of just they don't do anything

00:36:08.520 right the senate works two and a half days a week they don't amend things anymore they don't

00:36:14.460 deliberate so this is a muscle that hasn't been flexed in a very long time which is why simply

00:36:19.140 starting the process was important to prove that they can do things and you hope that in the process

00:36:23.780 they remember donald trump hasn't been this clear on something in a while last time he was it was

00:36:32.240 the uh the other big beautiful bill and he got that he got that through um is he leaning into

00:36:39.900 this as hard as he needs to and is jd vance is there a possibility that jd vance can just come

00:36:45.260 in and hijack this thing and just go okay look i'm in charge now well i mean trump has said in

00:36:51.380 very clear terms i don't want to deal with any other legislation until you get this passed

00:36:55.540 you know it was fascinating to me that he said that and then john doon goes to the

00:37:00.360 press and says, oh, the only supporters of this, it's just really an online paid

00:37:04.480 influencer ecosystem. Well, I'm sorry, the president of the United States just said this

00:37:09.100 is a major priority. So do you take him seriously or not? So I think Trump may have to get a little

00:37:16.920 aggressive with Senate Republicans and show him he means it. In terms of Vance's role,

00:37:22.280 he does have a role as the president of the Senate, but there's not much he can do on the

00:37:26.320 floor, right? He can sit in the chair. He can make parliamentary rulings as they come up. But

00:37:30.920 at the end of the day, this still lies at the feet of Jonathan. He is the only person who can

00:37:35.420 corral his conference as the leader to get them to do this. And I think this is his biggest test so

00:37:41.600 far. Yeah, I have to tell you, when Donald Trump said that, you know, we're bombing Iran, I thought

00:37:46.460 to myself, thank God I'm not the president because I don't have the stones that it would take

00:37:50.740 to start something that could end up really, really well or could end up being, you know,

00:37:56.160 World War III. I just don't have that kind of confidence. I'm not that guy. And look at the

00:38:05.480 difference. We have that, and then we have probably the toughest, hardest thing any president has done

00:38:12.800 is to make that call, knowing what he knows about endless wars and the way the politics are going to

00:38:19.100 shake out if it goes wrong. He knows all that, yet he still makes that. And then you have John

00:38:23.220 Thune, and all he has to do is support the most popular, bipartisan, popular bill I've seen in

00:38:32.480 probably 30 years. And he's like, well, I don't know. It's going to be kind of tough. I mean,

00:38:37.660 what a wuss. What an absolute wuss. Well, that's just, it kind of goes to the point of what is

00:38:44.320 the Senate for, right? People, to this earlier point, have living memories of when the Senate

00:38:50.040 had tightens, right? When the Senate moved history just by coming to the floor and exercising the

00:38:58.500 muscles of the institution to deliberate, to persuade, to build consensus, to muscle things

00:39:04.740 through by sheer physical effort, because that is what the chamber allows. And it's been so neutered

00:39:10.840 that we are, again, even as voters, there are people who think that bills pass the Senate at

00:39:17.840 60 votes because every single silent filibuster is simply, oh, clotures, clotures invoked. We

00:39:23.200 didn't get 60. We just shrug our shoulders and go home. That's not the end. It's never been the

00:39:26.920 end for 200 years. So we're trying to get the Senate to restore itself. Well, Rachel, thank

00:39:32.720 you for explaining it in a way that I think everybody can understand. I was reading your

00:39:36.120 tweets and I'm like, okay, okay. I get it. I get it. Cause there's so much bull crap in, oh my gosh,

00:39:41.200 their language is so screwed up, but it's, it's, it's the way it is. So thank you, Rachel. I

00:39:46.120 Appreciate it.

00:39:46.560 God bless you.

00:39:47.240 Happy to help.

00:39:47.960 Thanks, Glenn.

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