On today's show, Glenn Beck sits down with former White House Chief Strategist Stu McCartan to discuss the latest in the ongoing saga of the Black Lives Matter movement in America. Also on the show is a special guest, Chip Roy, who is running for the Texas attorney general.
00:00:30.000Why are we getting more data and more information from people like, you know, Cam Higby or Data Republican than we are from, I don't know, our own federal government?
00:00:40.000I've heard tell of this NSA thing that records every keystroke you've ever made.
00:00:48.000Why are they not a part of this to find out and separate the protesters from the insurrectionists?
00:00:55.000Especially since it looks like money is coming in from overseas.
00:00:59.000Also, Stu and I look back on our time together, time that, well, one of the times when we weren't sure that if what we talked about with the president in a, you know, set up an interview, a very important interview right after 9-11 was even being recorded.
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00:04:06.000I just want to point out that just what Higby and Data Republican have done in just this last week that even Red State is now reporting on.
00:04:19.000I'm this I'm giving you an article from Red State kind of summarizing everything.
00:04:23.000It it's it's really remarkable what average people are doing.
00:04:28.000I mean, they are breaking this up a few hours ago.
00:04:32.000Higby said that he's not 100 percent certain that Flanagan is the lieutenant governor of Minnesota is the name is the same.
00:04:45.000He said, however, there's circumstantial evidence that that is her.
00:04:50.000But I think it's important to point out we don't know for sure.
00:04:54.000That's why I say the government has to be very, very careful on everything, you know, only come out with the facts when they're when they're doing this.
00:05:03.000She is involved in stirring up local activists.
00:05:06.000She has said, you know, that people need to put their bodies in the way of, you know, put their bodies on the line in protest, which, you know, is great.
00:05:13.000But here's here's an interesting fact in the Red State article.
00:05:17.000It's clear that Walls, Fry and Flanagan want this insurrection to continue because it takes the focus off the massive fraud that has been occurring in that state.
00:06:06.000So, you know, I mean, my just my radio studios that I'm building here and, you know, the offices here for just my radio business is eleven thousand square feet.
00:06:18.000My studios in Dallas are eighty thousand square feet and I have three businesses in that in that facility.
00:07:42.000Um, and it's weird that, you know, one hundred and eighty four providers, uh, and eight businesses in eleven hundred square feet never sent up a single red flag, not one whatsoever.
00:07:52.000By the way, I think it was Cam Higbee that found this, uh, found this, um, because he's, he is looking for not only the names of people, but he's also looking for, um, uh, the, uh, the places that are, are being used as hubs.
00:08:37.000And that is who I want the government to be very, very careful on.
00:08:41.000And I want to see those people arrested because the problem is not the average protester.
00:08:48.000Now, I don't know how many average protesters are out there in comparison to, uh, you know, how many people are, you know, the diehards, the turtle Island people.
00:10:10.000The officer pulled out his gun, shot him.
00:10:13.000Now he shot him several times, but again, I think that's adrenaline, but you know, you can, you can look at that and go, that didn't happen the way I think it should have.
00:10:22.000Um, and I'll withhold judgment on that until everything comes out and everybody's common.
00:10:27.000We're just looking at facts and hearing everything, but the same thing here can be held on the other guy.
00:10:33.000Um, you know, when you first look at it, you're like, okay, this, the guy's not aggressive.
00:10:39.000And now we're finding out that he had either a bruised or a broken rib, uh, from a confrontation that he had with police just a couple of days ago.
00:10:48.000Well, that changes things that changes.
00:10:51.000I mean, in the court of law, that changes things.
00:10:55.000Now you're looking and say, wait a minute, he was engaged, engaging with the police.
00:11:03.000He did bring a gun and he most likely knew he would somehow or another get into an incident because he just had gotten into an incident with a police officer and had either bruised or broken rib from that.
00:11:17.000So we now know he's not just some innocent bystander either.
00:11:21.000So I don't know how many good guys are actually out on the street and how many are really actually insurrectionist.
00:11:26.000I know this thing is, um, you know, is organized by nothing but insurrectionist and, and the same thing is happening.
00:11:37.000Linda Sarsour and the Singham network are now saying they're going to bring the nation to its knees tomorrow.
00:11:43.000Or no, sorry, Friday, I bring it to his knees on Friday.
00:12:00.000The rest of us are, but this is something now.
00:12:04.000I mean, you now have the largest nurses union in the country saying, you got to do this nurses.
00:12:12.000This is to me, the nurses and the doctor thing is the most frightening.
00:12:17.000Because if you, if you get these nurses and doctors, remember, I played a nurse for you yesterday from Virginia who said, take a syringe and fill it with, I don't remember what the drug was, but it was a paralytic and jam it into the neck of an ice agent because maybe they'll wake up.
00:12:34.000Wait, you're now talking about jamming a syringe into the neck of an ice agent to make them paralyzed at least for a little while.
00:12:47.000That said that when you get nurses, um, and you get doctors on board in this kind of thinking where, you know what, if they don't take the jab, they're not worth treating, let them die.
00:13:02.000You're in a completely different culture, but this general strike.
00:13:06.000So, you know, this is happening, um, a national shutdown, large scale marches, uh, and a day of no work, no school, no shopping.
00:13:15.000Oh, the kids everywhere are very disappointed.
00:13:17.000Um, it's a Marxist revolutionary people's forum, uh, the left wing breakthrough news media outlet, the party for socialism and liberation, the far left code pink anti-war group, the act now and stop war and end racism answer coalition.
00:13:48.000Now, I personally don't think that this is going to be a big deal.
00:13:51.000It might be on some college campuses and in some very, you know, blue cities, but, uh, the rest of the, the rest of the country is not going to go that way.
00:14:42.000Here is the other thing that I want to point out.
00:14:44.000The federal government, Donald Trump just issued a statement today asking for certain things and saying, there's no, there's, there's no quarter on this.
00:14:58.000You have to turn these criminal aliens over.
00:15:01.000Um, and you know, Minnesota saying they're not going to, I think they're going to fight on this one, but Donald Trump, I believe will be prepared.
00:15:10.000Um, politically, uh, he'll also be prepared, um, with the public and the press.
00:15:18.000Um, and of course I wouldn't count him out with Homan on getting the job done.
00:15:24.000Um, but he is investigating FBI is investigating, et cetera, et cetera.
00:15:29.000But so far, everything that has been found has been found by people like Cam Higby.
00:15:38.000Can I ask you what the hell we're paying the, uh, NSA for what?
00:15:44.000I mean, they have, I don't remember what the spooky computer is called, you know, Colossus that, that has every keystroke you've ever made.
00:15:57.000They, we have an insurrection going on and the NSA is not able to track this stuff down and connect all the dots.
00:17:27.000And yesterday, the House Freedom Caucus, we put out a letter making very clear that if they want to split off Homeland Security, that's not our view.
00:17:33.000We don't think that's the right way to do it.
00:17:35.000If they you know, we passed a bill that funds the Department of War, that funds to better for better or worse, by the way.
00:17:40.000I mean, I didn't support a lot of several bills in this package. Right.
00:17:43.000The labor age, health care, education, a lot of crap in there.
00:17:46.000I don't like, you know, the provisions and transportation.
00:18:52.000ICE and Border Patrol are trying to zero in and focus on removing bad actors.
00:18:57.000By the way, Glenn, 1.5 million people in the United States are under orders of removal from a judge.
00:19:04.000Like, people act like this is just made up stuff.
00:19:06.000We have massive numbers of people under orders of removal.
00:19:10.000We have dangerous individuals affiliated with gangs.
00:19:12.000We have robbers, rapists, sodomists, people that they've been pulling off the streets.
00:19:17.000And the reason there's difficulty, the reason that ICE and Border Patrol are having more issues is because of people like Governor Walz and the mayor of Minneapolis who are continuing even today to tweet out that they have no intent of having their local law enforcement work to remove illegal aliens.
00:19:34.000Like, literally, the Minneapolis mayor said that today, which is very clearly unhelpful and not working with the feds to do the job, which is making it harder on them.
00:19:43.000And we have a duty to enforce the law.
00:19:45.000I think the American people are with us on that.
00:20:06.000And those arrested, those arrested, you've got to go through the entirety and say, look, here, it's a cultural thing.
00:20:14.000If the governor of Minnesota and the mayor of Minneapolis simply said we will cooperate with federal law enforcement, we will share those people that have been that are in jail, that have been convicted, that have been arrested.
00:20:28.000And we will share that information to identify the people that must be removed under our laws, including those under court order to be removed.
00:20:40.000We don't have sovereignty if this isn't something we can easily agree to.
00:20:44.000And if we can't agree to that, then I've got to figure I've got to start thinking about whether it is even possible to be in unity with people who don't believe we should be a sovereign nation.
00:21:00.000It means that I don't know how you coexist with a governor of another state who refuses to enforce the law and says that he has the right to put dangerous people on the streets of Minneapolis or Minnesota who can get in their car on I-35 from Minneapolis and be to Dallas or Austin, Texas within the day.
00:21:26.000You either enforce the laws under our Constitution, where the Constitution gives direct authority, not all this mindless nonsense that these guys typically do, right, where they use the federal government, they use the Constitution to say the federal government can do whatever it wants, whatever program, whatever spending, which, by the way, is not true.
00:21:44.000But the Constitution directly contemplates that the federal government will be setting the laws with respect to immigration and so forth.
00:21:50.000It doesn't mean states can't enforce their own laws to secure their border, by the way.
00:21:53.000But what it does mean is that the federal government has the authority and the duty to be able to uphold our immigration laws and to remove people.
00:22:03.000And if the states aren't going to work with us on that, then what is left is for people of states like Texas to take the steps necessary to defend our people.
00:22:18.000Which means we have to start making decisions in Texas about saying, look, maybe we have to start thinking about who's coming into Texas from Minnesota.
00:22:28.000Like, we have to start deciding how are we going to protect our people in the state of Texas if the other states, if the other leaders in this country are going to thwart the federal government's ability and the federal government's duty to keep us safe and secure.
00:22:46.000Remember, it was Democrats, these same Democrats that said, oh, you guys just have to deal with wide open borders, which was lawlessness.
00:22:53.000And the state of Texas being told, well, you've just got to deal with literally hundreds of thousands of people flooding into your state.
00:23:00.000Now they want to have the other argument, which is now we're going to thwart enforcement so that you, the people of Texas, have to be put in danger because we refuse to secure the state of Minnesota or any other state that has a similar track record.
00:23:13.000So if they're going to upend the rule of law, then we, the people of Texas and as leaders in Texas, are going to have to make decisions about what are we going to do to protect our own people.
00:23:32.000And whether or not they should be coming into the state of Texas.
00:23:36.000Is this, is this to you the way this is unfolding?
00:23:44.000I mean, I, I really think because of the, um, the, the huge fraud problem in Minnesota, I think that's why these politicians are acting the way they are.
00:23:55.000They're, they're looking to kind of go away and right.
00:24:00.000But with everything that we're seeing, um, and you know, people like data Republican cam Higbee are revealing, is this not a clear case for insurrection?
00:24:10.000Look, I have said, and the freedom caucus yesterday said in the letter we put out that we believe that the president would be well within his rights to invoke the insurrection act, uh, which dates back over 200 years, uh, for justice purpose to, to make sure that we can stop this interference.
00:24:29.000By the way, we should, we can use any number of federal laws, uh, from obstruction of justice to specific laws on the books that, that, uh, can be enforced against people interfering with carrying out law enforcement.
00:24:40.120But again, I just want to remind you, Glenn, I mean, cause, and I, I don't want to speak for you, but I suspect we're simpatico here that we do not like the raw power of the federal government being used to come into.
00:24:54.040You know, I'm not looking to go empower massive federal law enforcement, um, individual, that's not how I'm wired.
00:25:02.280And I don't think that's good in this case, the sovereignty of the nation and our ability to, what I said before, I know it's somewhat controversial, our ability to exist as a nation.
00:25:14.480And to unite requires us to stop the madness and to stop the lack of enforcement of the law.
00:25:21.380And to your point about the fraud, that's a part of it too, right?
00:25:25.660That they are stealing money from us in the form of fraud, both taxpayer funded money, as well as borrowed money to then fund people who are here, whether they're here legally or illegally, it's both in order to continue to prop them up.
00:25:40.740And then prevent us from enforcing the law to not have dangerous individuals or people under, you know, order to be removed, who are using up resources, both legitimate and illegitimate.
00:26:18.820I don't think we should just go around just willy nilly, but we need to be able to work with law enforcement and we need to pressure the locals to work with us in order to ensure bad actors are removed.
00:26:27.920So, Chip, I don't mean to keep hounding you on this.
00:26:32.600I just don't feel like I understand the answer.
00:26:35.160I know we have to consider other things and it'll put us in a position to where we have to think about other things.
00:26:44.640Because we're entering a time to where the government, which I think is, I think Donald Trump did not wave the right white flag and Homan being sent there is a real key indication of that.
00:26:54.540Also, what Trump tweeted this morning about, you know, you got to cover these five things.
00:27:00.700You are going to cooperate with the federal government on these things.
00:27:05.520But, you know, if that doesn't happen, you what send in more people, you can't seem to arrest anybody because you can't get a judge in in Minnesota to sign off on any, you know, federal warrant.
00:27:20.940So what options do we have that are good options?
00:27:28.460Well, number one, this is where Congress steps in and has to be able to come together to use the power of the purse, which we have been to your point, which I no doubt you're no doubt are already thinking and about to say has not been effective.
00:27:39.660We continue to fund the things that we complain about, like sanctuary cities.
00:27:44.620We continue to fund, you know, the law enforcement that is not actually working with us.
00:27:53.620OK, and I think that the president ought to use every power that he can and that OMB director Russ Vogt can use every power he can to stop funding those people who are at odds with our way of life.
00:28:04.400But we've got to just continue to we've got to continue to back the president.
00:28:10.260The president has to continue to put the heat on these guys and we have to win politically.
00:28:18.580If we to your point and I don't believe the president is backing up or retreating or use the phrase waving the white flag.
00:28:25.120And I agree with you that sending Tom Homan on the ground was a big sign of that and what the president's messaging has been.
00:28:32.380But we cannot allow them, for example, to shut down homeland security funding because they're trying to play this political card after this last weekend.
00:28:47.120And, yes, we do need to figure out and go in and arrest and do the things we need to do.
00:28:51.280And, look, I'm I'm frustrated at my Republican colleagues.
00:28:56.200I tried to defund 20 percent of the budget for the D.C. circuit courts and D.C. district judges, Judge Boasberg and Judge Boardman, and they wouldn't do it.
00:29:05.820We had 40, what, six Republicans who wouldn't do it.
00:29:08.420So we have to those of us who believe and recognize what's at stake.
00:29:12.740We have to keep our foot on the gas and we have to be willing to ruffle feathers.
00:29:16.620I can promise you a lot of my Republican colleagues were mad that we offered that amendment, Glenn, but I offered it anyway because we have to expose the people who aren't going to recognize what time it is in America.
00:29:28.480And then we need to make decisions in the primaries this year and this November about what we're going to do to save the country, because we either save it over these next three years under President Trump and, Lord willing, win another presidential election or there is no republic left.
00:29:54.440Stu's last day is on Friday, and it couldn't come faster for most of us in the audience, but it's been 27 years that we have been together, and it has truly been great.
00:30:10.800And he's one of my favorite people in the whole world.
00:30:13.320He's really, he is one of the smartest people, one of the, um, uh, one of the calmest people.
00:30:22.680He has been really good, especially when I was younger, because I would be very, very hasty to jump and react.
00:30:30.800And he was always the guy going, probably shouldn't say that probably shouldn't do that.
00:30:35.400Let's wait until we get more facts on that.
00:30:37.500And it saved me and my career more than I can count.
00:30:41.580Um, and we really truly will, we'll miss him.
00:30:44.280Um, Stu started as an intern for me years ago.
00:30:47.740We met in a, uh, at a one Toyota, uh, and a, he was blowing up balloons and I was alone, you know, trying to say, Hey, come on down and look at this car as I was doing mornings years and years ago.
00:31:02.120And people really reacted to that advice, didn't they?
00:31:04.820I remember that day, uh, approximately, um, zero people came.
00:31:11.620It was a very sad, it was a very sad, humble beginnings does not really do that justice.
00:31:17.880Um, but, uh, uh, uh, we sat because nobody came, we sat and we talked for a while and I realized this 18 year old kid was really astute and had studied radio and knew what was good and what was bad and why.
00:31:32.500And I said, you should leave the promotions department.