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00:00:30.000 New poll shows Democrats are less proud to be an American than they were after 9-11 by 51 points.

00:00:37.900 That's quite a fall.

00:00:39.780 But when you hear the things that have been said over the last 25 years, I think you can understand why they might feel that way.

00:00:45.860 So what do we do about it?

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00:03:22.820 Let's say hello to Stuber here.

00:03:26.960 Hello, Stu.

00:03:27.840 How are you?

00:03:28.240 Hello, Stuber here.

00:03:30.140 Welcome back to you.

00:03:31.680 Thank you.

00:03:33.600 Yes.

00:03:34.680 So 87% of the Democrats in 2001, extremely proud to be an American.

00:03:40.440 Now 36%.

00:03:42.080 It's a slight drop off.

00:03:44.560 It's a slight, slight.

00:03:45.900 No way to keep a country.

00:03:47.560 No way to keep a country.

00:03:48.640 No.

00:03:48.880 Now the number for Republicans, relatively consistent, right?

00:03:53.060 Actually up, I think slightly.

00:03:54.860 Up two points.

00:03:55.660 Yeah.

00:03:56.740 Now was this in the aftermath, the immediate aftermath of September 11th?

00:04:00.480 Is that why it's so high with Democrats?

00:04:03.660 I mean, I...

00:04:04.360 Maybe, maybe.

00:04:05.560 I think that...

00:04:06.420 I mean, let's look at this, though.

00:04:08.420 You know, before September 11th, you know, we all thought that we were all pretty much the same.

00:04:14.340 We all thought we were pretty much the same.

00:04:15.480 I mean, there were those that, you know, were on the fringes, but in the last 25 years, I mean, what have you heard about?

00:04:20.880 If you're a Democrat, what have you heard about?

00:04:23.420 You've heard about the genocide of indigenous peoples.

00:04:25.940 You've heard about the massacres and the forced removals and the trail of tears and the boarding schools and the broken treaties and the...

00:04:31.660 And slavery and the legacy of racism and colonialism and his imperialism and the annexation and the taking of Hawaii and the conquest of the Philippines and Puerto Rico is now a colony.

00:04:43.700 And all the CIA-backed coups and the inclusion or exclusion in the internment camps and the Chinese Exclusion Act and the Japanese Americans and the Muslims for surveillance and how anti-Muslim we are. 0.51

00:04:57.900 We're all really afraid of all Muslims. 1.00

00:05:00.180 The anti-labor repression, the Ludlow massacre, COINTELPRO, the labor organizers and civil rights activists that have just been oppressed the whole time.

00:05:12.820 And women were denied their vote until 1920 and there were restricted roles in the workforce and politics and reproductive rights and all of the... 0.98

00:05:22.320 What did we do on HIV? We did nothing on HIV.

00:05:25.500 And homosexual rights, my gosh, we're still throwing people off of buildings if you're a homosexual. 1.00

00:05:30.760 And trans, don't even get me started with trans. 1.00

00:05:33.200 And then the environmental exploitation, the rivers that have been set on fire, the poison communities. 0.99

00:05:39.560 Look at Flint, Michigan, and the land is stripped for profit.

00:05:43.280 Now we want to sell our own national parks.

00:05:46.240 The medical racism, the abuse of the Tuskegee experiment and forced sterilizations and the racial bias in health care that's still evident today, you know.

00:05:55.840 Suppression of dissent with the Palmer Raids and McCarthyism and the surveillance of civil rights leaders and the protest criminalization.

00:06:03.540 You can't even go out now and set any fires on the streets without being deemed a radical or revolutionary.

00:06:09.760 And they want to throw you in jail just for breaking into a Macy's.

00:06:14.280 And capitalism, it's nothing but an exploitation.

00:06:18.060 Capitalism inherently generates inequality and alienation and commodifies every human relationship.

00:06:26.100 You know, the state is nothing more than a tool of class denomination and the police and the courts and the military. 0.59

00:06:31.920 All they do is protect the elite interest, not the public welfare.

00:06:35.720 They're against, you know, be afraid of the police.

00:06:38.780 And private property and wealth is just hoarded by the wealthy.

00:06:43.380 Their inherited wealth, the land monopolies, the billionaire class accumulation, it's just fundamentally unjust.

00:06:50.660 And then we have a two-party system.

00:06:52.420 It's nothing but a managed illusion.

00:06:53.920 Real power resides with donors, lobbyists, the unelected bureaucrats, the military, permanent war economy, the prison industrial complex, the gender and patriarchal control, the surveillance capitalism.

00:07:08.960 And let me, don't even get me started on the genocide, the climate genocide.

00:07:15.220 That's all you've heard for 25 years.

00:07:19.560 That's all you've heard.

00:07:22.020 And some of that stuff is true.

00:07:25.800 Some of it is true.

00:07:32.000 But tell me, where is the perfect nation?

00:07:36.320 Where is the nation that is better than that?

00:07:38.840 Where is the nation that has corrected itself over and over and over again?

00:07:46.440 You know, we've been told over and over about how bad America is, how America is just broken.

00:07:55.060 Let me ask you, what would your life be?

00:07:59.640 How different would your life be if America hadn't existed?

00:08:03.800 Because you live in a world now that America built, not alone, not uniquely, but decisively.

00:08:19.660 Decisively, we changed the world forever.

00:08:24.320 And in many good ways.

00:08:26.740 You know, you've grown up only hearing the sins.

00:08:29.320 Can you pause for just a minute today?

00:08:31.160 Just a minute.

00:08:31.900 Because the nation's story is not propaganda.

00:08:36.300 It's proof.

00:08:37.620 Yes, it's brutal.

00:08:38.640 Yes, it's flawed.

00:08:39.680 Yes, it's ugly.

00:08:41.840 Yes, it's undeniable.

00:08:47.220 But there's also some undeniable truths.

00:08:50.380 That one country, rooted in liberty, reshaped the planet, yes, for good.

00:08:56.540 I mean, most people likely think World War II was just a foregone conclusion.

00:09:04.340 If they even studied it.

00:09:06.100 If they even know who Hitler was.

00:09:09.100 If they know what fascism, what the difference between fascism in 1930 and fascism today.

00:09:16.140 It wasn't a foregone conclusion.

00:09:20.520 Without America, Hitler wins. 0.97

00:09:23.140 Japan keeps the Pacific. 0.97

00:09:25.240 Fascism becomes the dominant force of the 20th century. 0.98

00:09:28.960 Oh my gosh, we just went over and all we tried to do was just kill the Japanese. 1.00

00:09:33.020 We just wanted to vaporize the Japanese. 1.00

00:09:34.480 Do you know what the Japanese military did?

00:09:37.180 They were worse than the Germans, but we never focused on that, did we? 1.00

00:09:43.760 America mobilized faster, produced more, fought longer than anyone else.

00:09:49.220 We built more tanks and planes than the Axis combined.

00:09:53.440 We led the invasion that broke the Nazi grip.

00:09:56.740 We dropped food as well as bombs.

00:09:59.640 Did you know that?

00:10:02.520 We did something even rarer.

00:10:04.260 We didn't conquer.

00:10:10.920 We rebuilt.

00:10:14.640 And while communism tried to replace fascism,

00:10:17.760 we were the ones on the front line and stood our ground again.

00:10:21.600 For 45 years we held the line.

00:10:24.100 Not with brute force alone, but with ideas, with culture, with freedom, with genes.

00:10:30.600 With music, with hope.

00:10:32.520 If you think communism is great, talk to somebody who lived under communism.

00:10:38.880 You've been lied to your whole life.

00:10:41.340 Your school, while you say America is just indoctrinated people,

00:10:45.280 try your school.

00:10:48.320 Try your university.

00:10:52.540 Question things.

00:10:54.020 Why do you question power, but you don't question the power of the university?

00:11:02.480 The Soviet Union collapsed because people wanted what America had and not genes.

00:11:09.820 They wanted freedom.

00:11:11.500 They wanted the freedom to express themselves.

00:11:13.880 They wanted freedom to be able to create their own music,

00:11:16.840 live their own life,

00:11:18.040 to buy the things they wanted,

00:11:19.840 to own something.

00:11:21.420 Do you know that before America's rise,

00:11:26.640 extreme poverty was the norm?

00:11:29.240 Extreme poverty.

00:11:31.020 Kings had jewels.

00:11:34.160 Nobody else had jewels.

00:11:35.620 You had dirt.

00:11:36.940 And you didn't even own that dirt.

00:11:39.340 And then came the engine of capitalism.

00:11:41.640 It pioneered.

00:11:42.340 It scaled.

00:11:43.480 It was exported by the U.S.

00:11:46.720 Yes, we did export capitalism.

00:11:49.300 Oh my gosh, that was just nothing but exploitation.

00:11:52.600 No, it wasn't.

00:11:54.780 It was innovation.

00:11:56.500 It was supply chains, trade routes, machines, markets, standards.

00:12:02.200 It was also charity.

00:12:03.800 Over a billion human beings lifted from starvation-level poverty.

00:12:10.180 Let me say that again.

00:12:11.540 Over a billion humans lifted from starvation-level poverty in just 50 years.

00:12:19.660 You know, here behind me is a potbelly stove, an old stove.

00:12:26.080 You know where that potbelly stove came from?

00:12:28.380 That potbelly stove behind me, I don't know if you can see it.

00:12:31.340 We're sitting over there in the corner right there.

00:12:32.920 That old potbelly stove.

00:12:34.580 You know who invented that?

00:12:35.600 Ben Franklin.

00:12:36.800 You know what else Ben Franklin did? 0.98

00:12:38.780 Ben Franklin, oh, he's a monster.

00:12:41.380 Ben Franklin also developed what's called the patent.

00:12:44.600 Do you know what a patent is?

00:12:46.940 Do you know that America invented the patent?

00:12:50.300 It was Ben Franklin that said we have to have a patent.

00:12:53.440 Why?

00:12:54.120 Because you want to talk about exploitation.

00:12:56.200 Before America, you could invent something and you had no power to keep it.

00:13:01.380 There was no such thing as your invention.

00:13:04.760 You could invent it, but some rich guy would come and steal it right from underneath you.

00:13:11.760 And they would get rich and you would get nothing.

00:13:14.480 You led your life in poverty because you couldn't invent and then scale anything.

00:13:23.040 You would invent.

00:13:24.220 Somebody else would steal it.

00:13:25.540 They would get rich.

00:13:26.440 It was Ben Franklin, one of our founders, that said this exploitation has got to stop.

00:13:32.080 And he, when he took and invented thing after thing after thing, like the potbelly stove,

00:13:36.580 which brought heat into people's houses. 0.99

00:13:39.960 Do you know what the number one cause of death for women was? 0.99

00:13:43.700 At the time, the number one cause of death for women was burning to death

00:13:49.460 because they would cook over the fire in the house and their dress or their clothing would catch fire

00:13:56.140 and they would burn to death. 0.64

00:13:57.320 The number one cause was burn to death.

00:14:02.820 Potbelly stove kept that fire tamed.

00:14:06.400 It heated the house.

00:14:08.000 It gave you something to cook on without the open flame.

00:14:11.780 And do you know how much money Ben Franklin made on this?

00:14:15.620 Oh my gosh, the exploitation.

00:14:17.600 None.

00:14:18.380 Why?

00:14:18.760 Because he refused.

00:14:19.800 The guy who invented the patent decided not to patent it

00:14:23.840 because he felt it was right to give this to the world.

00:14:28.660 It was his choice.

00:14:30.380 It wasn't the government telling him.

00:14:32.120 It was his choice.

00:14:33.840 Because not only did he believe in the wealth of nations with Adam Smith,

00:14:37.980 he also believed in moral sentiments.

00:14:41.780 You had to be good and decent.

00:14:45.860 How about the Green Revolution?

00:14:47.580 No, not the one you think about.

00:14:49.080 The Green Revolution?

00:14:50.140 An American scientist?

00:14:52.800 An American scientist saved up to 2 billion lives with seeds.

00:14:58.180 That's the real Green Revolution. 0.92

00:15:00.400 Today your phone is made in Asia. 1.00

00:15:02.280 Yeah, I know you hate this global thing.

00:15:04.960 You hate the American system.

00:15:06.660 It was made in Asia.

00:15:08.400 It was shipped to you globally, sold online,

00:15:11.300 all through systems created by American globalization.

00:15:17.900 We wrote the operating system for modern freedom.

00:15:22.600 Every modern democracy borrows from our Constitution.

00:15:25.700 Our founders invented a government designed to limit power.

00:15:30.540 And what have you done on the left?

00:15:34.000 You have only grown the power.

00:15:37.380 You know, there used to be a thing that the right did.

00:15:40.260 And the left used to be for small government,

00:15:43.420 for human rights, for constitutional rights.

00:15:47.360 You're not for that now.

00:15:49.580 You're not for the separation of powers. 0.59

00:15:52.120 You're for consolidating all of the powers.

00:15:55.220 Are you for the free press while you silence people on X?

00:15:59.180 Regular elections, due process.

00:16:02.760 This didn't come from perdition.

00:16:04.600 It didn't come from a king.

00:16:06.460 It came from America.

00:16:08.280 All of those things.

00:16:10.000 Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison.

00:16:12.280 They didn't just write rules.

00:16:14.500 They lit a fuse.

00:16:16.940 From Tiananmen Square to Tehran.

00:16:19.440 Dissidents quote our words.

00:16:21.700 They hold our flags.

00:16:23.400 That's not nationalism.

00:16:24.820 That's impact.

00:16:25.600 That's impact.

00:16:25.860 You are told today we never walked on the moon.

00:16:34.740 And you think you're educated?

00:16:40.320 Talk to somebody about the mirrors and the laser systems that we have on the moon now.

00:16:44.920 How'd they get there?

00:16:47.000 What movie were they put in?

00:16:51.280 Americans made this happen.

00:16:53.420 You're online today because the Pentagon that you hate so much built the internet.

00:16:59.200 You carry a supercomputer in your pocket because of the moonshot and Silicon Valley.

00:17:06.020 You know the phrase app store, cloud, AI?

00:17:10.600 All American inventions.

00:17:13.480 All of them.

00:17:14.020 When new therapies or treatments are pioneered, mRNA, robotic surgery, cancer breakthroughs, they usually start here.

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00:19:03.640 Chip Roy is with us from the great state of Texas.

00:19:07.800 Chip is a congressman.

00:19:09.700 And welcome to the program.

00:19:10.880 How are you, Chip?

00:19:13.080 Well, Glenn, I'm, you know, just continuing to work through and trying to deliver for the American people.

00:19:18.780 But it's getting hard.

00:19:19.560 I'm with you.

00:19:19.920 I'm tired of this bill right now.

00:19:22.060 Yeah, you're living the dream, brother.

00:19:23.680 You are just living.

00:19:24.800 Who doesn't want your job?

00:19:26.440 My gosh, what a glorious, glorious, fun-filled life you must live.

00:19:32.300 So tell me.

00:19:33.700 There's no sarcasm at all in what you're just saying.

00:19:35.940 None at all.

00:19:39.200 Tell me.

00:19:40.500 Has this thing gotten better or worse?

00:19:42.240 Unfortunately, Glenn, I believe it's gotten worse.

00:19:47.200 Now, we've not seen the final product out of the Senate.

00:19:49.960 We don't have the text.

00:19:51.160 We've got to review it.

00:19:52.640 I try to be level-headed through these things.

00:19:54.620 I have enormously strong and good friends in the administration who, in good faith, want to see this pass, just as you do, just as I do, just as the American people do.

00:20:04.460 They want to see us move forward legislation to make tax cuts permanent, to deliver on the border funding that we need.

00:20:12.120 And, you know, Stephen Miller's a longtime friend I've known for 25 years.

00:20:16.040 Russ Vogt is a longtime friend I've known for 25 years.

00:20:19.260 We've been working together in the trenches for as long as I can remember.

00:20:22.600 We all want to deliver.

00:20:24.520 The problem is the swamp is going to swamp.

00:20:26.700 And right now we have a bill that, in my estimation, violates the House framework, but more importantly, would add significantly to the deficits.

00:20:37.700 Now, we have differing views.

00:20:39.000 More than it did.

00:20:41.020 More than it did, right?

00:20:43.400 By quite a bit, in my view.

00:20:45.600 And, look, there's going to be a debate about this, about tax cuts and revenues and all this stuff.

00:20:50.800 And I get it.

00:20:51.340 It's baselines, you know, CBO, all these different things.

00:20:55.200 I'm just telling you, Glenn, as objectively as I can, I look at the math and I look at how you factor in economic growth, which I'm doing, factor in revenues and expenditures and what we're doing on mandatory spending, which is not enough.

00:21:12.460 The fact that we're only repealing half of the Green News scam, if we're lucky, the fact that we're continuing to allow Medicaid to go to illegals because of some arcane Senate rules, the fact that we're continuing to allow Obamacare subsidies to fund transgender surgeries, 0.74

00:21:30.840 the fact that we're going to, in my estimation, have probably a couple of trillion of deficit spending in the first four years, which means you're going to have more interest, which means it's going to stack up, all to get savings in the out five years.

00:21:47.200 That's not what you and I signed up for.

00:21:49.660 Now, I'm looking at this trying to say, OK, the president wants the tax cuts.

00:21:54.300 So do I.

00:21:55.220 The president wants borders.

00:21:57.660 So do I.

00:21:58.500 I think the president wants us to repeal the entirety of the Green News scam. 0.99

00:22:02.480 I think the president wants us to get good reforms.

00:22:05.320 Be careful, like handle Medicaid appropriately and all of that for our American citizens that are vulnerable or depend on it.

00:22:11.520 But we haven't delivered because the Senate has a bunch of people in it who don't want to deliver.

00:22:18.000 And they're hiding behind the parliamentarian and they're delivering a subpar product that I didn't come to Washington to sign up for, Glenn.

00:22:25.460 All right.

00:22:26.000 So let me ask you this.

00:22:27.000 They're hiding behind the parliamentarian.

00:22:29.600 Is that I mean.

00:22:31.540 They they say there was a change in the bill because of the Medicare paid to illegals and the parliamentarian said, you've got to keep it in there.

00:22:42.140 Some arcane, you know, rule or what.

00:22:44.700 Couldn't the Senate Republicans just ignore that?

00:22:47.720 Is it fair to.

00:22:50.560 What?

00:22:52.080 They could overrule the parliamentarian.

00:22:54.180 They could make a choice if they wanted to do so.

00:22:57.000 Now, you know, then they'll say, well, some of these things take 60 votes and so forth.

00:23:00.220 If they want to address this, they can address it.

00:23:03.880 But the real issue here is that behind closed doors, what you know is that there are senators who don't want to make the reforms, don't want to make the changes.

00:23:13.800 They're making their own policy choices based on what they want.

00:23:19.900 Right.

00:23:20.200 You've got Lisa Murkowski right now.

00:23:22.660 Instead of wanting to reform Medicaid, she wants to get a special carve out for additional spending for people in Alaska. 0.96

00:23:32.120 You've got, you know, tell us, you've got others.

00:23:35.360 They want us to go the wrong direction when it comes to Medicaid reform.

00:23:40.300 And Glenn, I've got to be honest.

00:23:42.820 How many times have you and I been on the phone over the last decade talking about shutdown fights on discretionary spending like every two years?

00:23:49.560 Oh, I know.

00:23:51.540 Countless times.

00:23:52.560 Every time we have one of those fights, the people in this town say, Chip, you need to shut up because the real problem is mandatory spending.

00:24:01.640 It's Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid.

00:24:03.340 It's not fighting over all this stuff.

00:24:05.840 You're wasting our time.

00:24:07.680 I didn't think it was a waste of our time.

00:24:09.000 I didn't think we should be funding weaponized government.

00:24:11.200 I didn't think we should continue to, you know, jack up spending for the alphabet soup of regulations, killing America.

00:24:17.000 But I said, OK, guys, here we are.

00:24:19.360 We're going to do this reconciliation package.

00:24:22.020 We're going to reform Medicaid.

00:24:23.180 Right.

00:24:24.360 We had to fight like cats and dogs to get the reforms and the work requirements we got out of the House.

00:24:29.380 It was good.

00:24:30.340 Not great.

00:24:31.820 The Senate.

00:24:32.540 Now they're working through it and they're fighting every inch.

00:24:35.760 And it got actually a little better in certain respects, thanks to Rick Scott.

00:24:39.720 He's been fighting hard.

00:24:40.900 Mike Lee, Ron Johnson.

00:24:42.340 We got a little bit more of what's called provider taxes.

00:24:45.300 But overall, we're not meeting the moment.

00:24:48.320 We're not getting enough Medicaid reform.

00:24:50.800 We're getting the watered down stuff on illegals.

00:24:54.140 How about remittance taxes, Glenn?

00:24:55.900 Glenn, we passed a measure in the House to tax money going from America, from people here illegally, back to their own countries.

00:25:03.780 The Senate watered it down and got rid of like two thirds of it.

00:25:07.120 It's crazy.

00:25:07.780 Why?

00:25:08.320 Why?

00:25:08.700 Why?

00:25:09.240 Why?

00:25:10.840 Because they don't like the policies, Glenn.

00:25:13.920 Because here's the thing.

00:25:15.020 There were bankers, banks, who came in and said, guys, this would be really hard on us if we had to enforce this policy of money flowing from our banks and institutions to Mexico and to, you know, Colombia and places.

00:25:29.900 We really need to carve out so that banks aren't going to be attacked by this.

00:25:34.700 And then they go.

00:25:35.620 But it would be way too burdensome on the people who come here and they're honest and they're working hard and they want to send money to their families.

00:25:41.940 Look, you and I both have a heart, as people say, if you want to say, hey, I get it.

00:25:47.620 You got an honest person here who's following the law.

00:25:49.720 They came here legally.

00:25:50.500 They want to send money back home to their country.

00:25:53.080 They can still do that.

00:25:54.840 They can still find a way to do that.

00:25:56.680 But we're taxing.

00:25:58.280 And the Senate said, no, we're not going to do it.

00:26:00.500 But the biggest thing at the end of the day, deficits go up.

00:26:04.060 And I didn't sign up for deficits to go up.

00:26:07.360 We're not doing.

00:26:07.940 You're not going to vote for this.

00:26:09.060 You're not voting for this.

00:26:10.120 I cannot vote for this as it's currently structured.

00:26:13.700 If we can come to some agreement, look, and Glenn, this is important.

00:26:17.720 The president rightly wants us to find a way to get a bill done.

00:26:21.980 I get that, man.

00:26:23.100 I want to deliver. 0.99

00:26:24.060 For six months, I've been busting my butt.

00:26:26.100 I voted for a bill that came out of the House that I didn't like, that wasn't good enough, but I thought it was an important step. 0.75

00:26:31.340 I worked to come up with a budget framework with Jody Arrington and others to figure out how to get this done and get it out of the House.

00:26:38.180 I think we made progress.

00:26:40.560 We did get Medicaid reforms that were good.

00:26:42.660 We did get some tightening down on the Green News scam when others didn't want to do it.

00:26:47.540 But we're now fighting a Senate that's watering down important stuff. 0.93

00:26:51.080 And importantly, the way they concoct the tax and spend policies overall, I can't look at this in any way objectively without telling my voters, the people that sent me to Washington to represent them, the deficits will go up.

00:27:05.220 Now, last point, the president and the administration will say, look, guys, don't worry about all that.

00:27:10.360 We'll make it up with tariffs, and we think higher economic growth.

00:27:14.280 Well, two things.

00:27:15.760 Number one, on the economic growth front, we assumed growth in our bill, Glenn.

00:27:21.740 We assumed 2.6% growth.

00:27:23.840 Now, you might say, well, gosh, we can do three or four.

00:27:26.200 Yeah, but we have to do a 10-year budget.

00:27:28.660 2.6% growth is a lot higher than what we've been experiencing the last two decades on average.

00:27:34.380 We picked a sweet spot of 2.6% growth.

00:27:37.540 It is true that if we have 4% growth for a decade, we will have much more revenue.

00:27:42.180 I hope that's true.

00:27:43.940 You hope that's true.

00:27:45.360 And if it is true, then great.

00:27:47.620 It's gravy that will give us money to buy down the debt and save money and get the deficits down further.

00:27:54.680 But I can't budget to 3.5% growth when we've been sitting at 2% growth.

00:28:00.140 It'd be irresponsible.

00:28:01.860 So I'm with you, Chip.

00:28:03.660 I'm with you.

00:28:05.460 And I've said this for a long time.

00:28:08.360 The Republicans are going to lose.

00:28:10.040 They are going to lose.

00:28:13.140 And they're going to lose because you're just not delivering for the American people what you promised you would.

00:28:19.820 Donald Trump seems to be.

00:28:21.400 At least he's trying.

00:28:23.280 He's doing a lot of the things he promised he would do.

00:28:25.800 I don't see that happening with the Republicans.

00:28:28.800 And so, you know, I don't know what the midterm is going to look like.

00:28:34.460 But I will tell you this.

00:28:35.620 He has to have that tax cut.

00:28:38.320 He's got to have it.

00:28:39.660 If we don't get that tax cut, everything the Republicans have been trying to do or the Republican voters have wanted, it's over.

00:28:48.240 It's over.

00:28:48.840 Because the economy will spiral out of control without that tax cut.

00:28:53.340 Agree or disagree?

00:28:54.060 So I do agree that we must deliver on the tax cut, and I believe we will.

00:28:59.080 When push comes to shove, there's no way that we're going to get to December and not provide an extension of the tax cuts that were so important in 2017.

00:29:09.360 Now, I want to remind everybody, the corporate rates were made permanent already, right?

00:29:15.260 What we're talking about dealing with is the expiration of certain personal tax issues, marginal rates, but also child tax credits, also the standard deduction, et cetera.

00:29:25.740 Now, I'm not sure how – you know, I've got different views on different ones of those policies.

00:29:30.720 But overall, we want to ensure that that money is staying in the pockets of the American people.

00:29:35.860 We have to deliver on that.

00:29:37.480 But I will tell you this, if we don't address the inflation tax, if we don't address the extent to which people are fleeing American bond markets because we're so irresponsible, then we're going to be doing a disservice to our kids and grandkids who can't afford a house.

00:29:53.880 They can't buy a house because the mortgage rates are too high.

00:29:56.140 They can't afford it now, Chip.

00:29:57.800 They can't afford it now.

00:30:01.020 So I think what we need to do – like, I'm prepared to go back to the drawing board today.

00:30:06.060 I don't need to go home tomorrow or the next day.

00:30:08.460 Let's just – let's get busy.

00:30:10.500 We've been working on it.

00:30:11.860 Let's tighten down some of the spending.

00:30:14.100 Let's tweak what we've been doing and get the tax policy done and get it set.

00:30:18.200 Let's go back to the House bill, for example, that we passed.

00:30:21.400 It was a good, solid bill.

00:30:22.600 We've got to get rid of some of these ridiculous things like Medicaid for illegal aliens, like, you know, pork that's going to Alaska, like specific giveaways.

00:30:37.040 And, you know, get rid of those things. 0.85

00:30:39.200 Go back to the House bill.

00:30:40.900 Make sure the Inflation Reduction Act is getting terminated and make sure this map adds up.

00:30:45.960 We'll deliver on the tax cuts, deliver on border, deliver for the president.

00:30:49.020 But I'm prepared to do everything to do that, but I'm not going to swallow a crappy bill because the Senate tries to jam me with it before July 4th.

00:30:56.640 I have to tell you, I don't know how it is unpopular to say, no, we're not giving illegals any of Medicaid. 0.87

00:31:04.480 We're not.

00:31:04.980 I mean, do you remember when – who was it that was in Congress when Barack Obama talked about Obamacare and he said, you lie, Joe Wilson, wasn't it?

00:31:13.360 And everybody had a cow. 0.97

00:31:15.000 Well, look at what we're doing now.

00:31:16.600 Look at what we're doing.

00:31:17.840 Well, look at what we're giving illegals. 1.00

00:31:19.800 No.

00:31:20.280 The answer is no, no, no, no, no.

00:31:22.360 And I don't understand how that is not so simple.

00:31:25.460 I don't understand any Republican that doesn't understand the Green New Deal.

00:31:30.740 No.

00:31:31.940 No.

00:31:33.080 USAID.

00:31:33.760 No.

00:31:34.600 Doge.

00:31:35.460 Cut it. 0.63

00:31:36.740 Why can't they see what – I just – there is – I mean, to tell you – Chip, I'm sorry.

00:31:43.340 I don't mean to take this out on you because you're one of the good guys.

00:31:45.620 You've been trying to do this.

00:31:46.600 We are in – we are in between a rock and a hard place.

00:31:50.580 The president has to have what the president needs to get the economy going.

00:31:54.660 We wait until January.

00:31:56.480 You're right on top of the midterms. 0.79

00:32:00.160 You haven't – the president is not turning this economy around fast enough because he can't get anyone in Congress to do jack crap on anything. 0.99

00:32:09.980 You need to cut the frickin' spending and the waste and the garbage. 0.96

00:32:16.560 And I tell you, I am with Elon Musk 100%.

00:32:20.860 100%.

00:32:22.400 You are one of these weasel Republicans who don't – who just go along and just be like, you know what, we're going to add another $5 or $6 trillion to our debt.

00:32:32.740 But I'm done.

00:32:34.660 I'm done.

00:32:35.120 And Elon has said, I will – if it's the last thing I do, I will make sure none of these people get reelected.

00:32:41.160 That's not going to be good.

00:32:42.540 That's not going to be good for the republic, let alone the Republican parties.

00:32:47.800 But you know what?

00:32:48.780 I've had enough.

00:32:49.660 I've had enough.

00:32:50.180 And I think the American people have, too.

00:32:52.480 Glenn, I can just tell you this.

00:32:54.180 July 4th is obviously Friday, Independence Day, 249 years ago.

00:33:00.060 And we always celebrate it.

00:33:01.460 We celebrate their courage.

00:33:02.780 And we celebrate Lexington and Concord.

00:33:04.780 And we celebrate all that they stood for.

00:33:06.840 We celebrate the men that stormed the beaches in Normandy.

00:33:09.380 And we celebrate all of the great courage that our men and women in uniform have done to fight to give us this country.

00:33:15.440 How can I say, no, sorry, I'm going to vote for this bill because there's going to be some political pressure when I regale the boys at the Alamo sitting there taking bullets knowing they were going to die or those that ran into a wall of bullets in Normandy?

00:33:30.440 Look, we have to deliver.

00:33:32.360 We have no choice.

00:33:33.560 We all agree on that.

00:33:35.200 I'm sure I'm going to get labeled, you know, any number of things that I'm not delivering on the president's agenda, that I'm jamming up a bill.

00:33:43.520 Look, and I get it.

00:33:45.440 And I'm not going to get defensive about it.

00:33:47.360 The president wants his bill, and he's right to want his bill.

00:33:50.060 But Congress has to deliver a bill worth sending him.

00:33:52.540 And I'm prepared to stay here until we do. 0.98

00:33:54.980 But I'm not going to vote for a bill because I'm being told I have to because a bunch of frickin' losers who are swamp creatures who want pork and giveaways and don't have the cojones to stand up and deliver for the American people and to actually reduce spending and not hide behind promontory and not hide behind tax cuts. 0.98

00:34:13.180 They want to hide behind the tax cuts to tell me and the border to tell me, you've got to vote for this bill and don't worry about the spending. 0.99

00:34:20.020 No. 1.00

00:34:20.600 Kiss my ass. 1.00

00:34:21.500 I'm going to stand up and fight for the border and the tax cuts and the spending cuts. 1.00

00:34:26.580 We've got to do it.

00:34:28.040 It was very reminiscent of Daniel Boone there for just a second.

00:34:33.600 It was – or Davey – sorry, not Davey – Davey Crockett, not Daniel Boone.

00:34:38.320 So thank you for that.

00:34:40.540 Chip, God bless.

00:34:42.080 Have a great holiday.

00:34:44.760 Stand firm in what you believe in and just keep fighting.

00:34:47.360 I appreciate the attitude that you have towards the president.

00:34:51.060 Give the president what he needs.

00:34:52.620 Fight for the president what he's asking for.

00:34:55.120 But you've got to fight the swamp at the same time.

00:34:57.720 Have to.

00:34:58.280 Have to.

00:34:58.820 Thank you, Chip.

00:34:59.440 Appreciate it.

00:35:01.080 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:35:10.060 249 years ago – I think it is tomorrow, right?

00:35:13.100 Is tomorrow the second or is it the first?

00:35:16.100 What day is it today?

00:35:18.360 Tomorrow's the second.

00:35:19.520 So it was 249 years ago tomorrow that somebody sat alone in a one-room hotel room

00:35:30.720 and scratched out the words, when in the course of human events.

00:35:35.780 Those are the first six words of a document that is so dangerous, still today, so revolutionary.

00:35:42.820 It was whispered in those candlelit rooms by men who knew, knew that if I sign this document, that's a death warrant.

00:35:52.940 I'm dead. 0.95

00:35:53.840 I'm dead.

00:35:54.480 When in the course of human events, Jefferson wrote them, 33 years old.

00:36:06.700 Adams would later say, you do well to revere Jefferson, but he didn't write alone, basically.

00:36:11.660 I was there too, and so has Ben Franklin.

00:36:13.540 The ideas were forged in the minds of men like Franklin, who was old enough to know better, and Adams, who was stubborn enough not to care.

00:36:24.080 And they weren't perfect men.

00:36:28.900 I love this about the left.

00:36:30.460 They try to make you think that, yo, you think they're perfect.

00:36:33.120 I don't think they were perfect.

00:36:35.420 I mean, Ben Franklin used to walk around naked in his house a lot.

00:36:39.340 That shows, I mean, for as smart as that guy was, it shows maybe he had a lack of mirrors, but they weren't perfect.

00:36:47.620 They owned slaves.

00:36:48.760 They argued.

00:36:49.500 They compromised.

00:36:51.200 How does that make them different than us?

00:36:53.700 I mean, we should be able to relate to them.

00:36:59.160 What is it that we tolerate right now?

00:37:01.020 What is it that we compromise on?

00:37:02.660 What are our failures that future generations are going to go, pfft, these people just didn't get it?

00:37:11.940 Perhaps what we should notice is that they, unlike most of us, they were willing to gamble their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor for something that had never, ever been done before.

00:37:25.640 Something entirely new.

00:37:27.340 The idea that rights don't come from a government or from a king or from a parliament.

00:37:35.820 They don't come from the majority voting.

00:37:38.640 Everyone has certain rights.

00:37:42.100 You know, for all these people who are, you know, going in Macy's and burning down towns and then stealing clothing, and they're like, go because I've been oppressed.

00:37:52.240 You can't.

00:37:52.940 I've got rights, you know.

00:37:54.960 Yeah.

00:37:55.740 Yeah.

00:37:56.120 You know who the first people were to articulate those rights?

00:38:00.280 You know the only country that actually has stood for those rights?

00:38:04.160 And we're imperfect.

00:38:06.240 That idea came from the founders that you say you hate.

00:38:13.080 But the actual rights come from God, which you dismiss.

00:38:17.540 Think of this, think of this, just ponder this for a second, that all men are created equal, that their rights are given to them by a creator.

00:38:29.800 That's not a political assertion.

00:38:33.240 That's genius.

00:38:35.040 That's eternal truth.

00:38:38.840 That's theological dynamite.

00:38:41.740 Lobbed straight into the thrones of Europe. 0.93

00:38:45.760 All over the world.

00:38:47.000 It's still dynamite.

00:38:51.920 They knew what they were doing.

00:38:54.400 And I don't mean like, they knew what they were doing.

00:38:57.180 They knew that the British crown had the largest military force in the world.

00:39:03.160 And these guys, they were farmers, they were printers, they were lawyers, they were a ragtag collection of intellectual and idealists facing down an empire where they said the sun never set on the British Empire.

00:39:22.320 Meaning, the colonialism was everywhere.

00:39:26.380 You could not escape England.

00:39:28.800 And yet, they declared it.

00:39:30.920 We're leaving without apology.

00:39:34.120 And they said that when a government becomes destructive of the ends of liberty, life, and the pursuit of happiness, it's not only the right of the people, it's their duty to throw it off.

00:39:45.740 Wow.

00:39:47.120 And you know what's amazing?

00:39:48.400 That's not rebellion.

00:39:49.200 That's, that's, that's not revolution.

00:39:53.880 That's, that's responsibility.

00:39:57.560 That, that kind of language today, that'd have you flagged, shadow banned, labeled an extremist, in most countries disappeared.

00:40:07.700 But that is the foundation of what we call America.

00:40:12.340 The American experiment.

00:40:13.820 And it's just that, an experiment.

00:40:15.360 We didn't know if we could get it right.

00:40:16.760 And we haven't gotten it right.

00:40:18.140 But isn't it worth experimenting?

00:40:20.620 Isn't it worth trying to get that concept right? 1.00

00:40:23.620 It, when you fail on that concept, you're like, that's a stupid idea. 0.98

00:40:27.000 That's not a stupid idea. 0.99

00:40:28.080 That's the greatest idea of all time.

00:40:29.860 Why are so many people willing to just quit?

00:40:32.520 It, the experiment is self-rule.

00:40:38.580 It's not perfect.

00:40:39.680 Never has been.

00:40:41.260 Slavery, Jim Crow, internment camps, assassinations.

00:40:44.720 My God, forgive us for what we have done.

00:40:48.260 But at the same time, what nation has done more to correct its own errors?

00:40:54.600 What people have shed more blood, not for conquest, but for freedom?

00:40:59.820 Twice in the last century, we crossed oceans, not to claim territory, but to liberate that territory.

00:41:06.620 Our sons and daughters fought and bled on foreign soil to push the darkness back, to fight against Nazism and fascism and communism.

00:41:17.160 And here we are, here we are today, after 249 years tomorrow of that experiment, standing at the lip of the very abyss those men feared.

00:41:32.900 A godless chaos rising in the East, and a cold, atheistic utopia clawing at the foundations of the Western world.

00:41:47.020 Islamism and communism, two ideologies that have killed tens of millions of people, now dressed all in new robes, selling old lies. 1.00

00:41:59.940 And we can't even teach a child where their rights come from.

00:42:03.840 We've replaced Jefferson and Adams with TikTok influencers and bureaucratic groupthink.

00:42:12.540 We're raising generations to not even know the truth about their own identity, but to question their identity.

00:42:18.720 And they could be, oh, you're a funny, funny colored unicorn today.

00:42:23.700 What do you want to be tomorrow?

00:42:26.360 We don't teach them anything about truth or their inheritance, most importantly.

00:42:31.200 Their inheritance.

00:42:33.840 What good are hot dogs and fireworks if the soul of the nation is up for auction?

00:42:40.340 What is the meaning in 4th of July if we've forgotten the why, if we don't even call it Independence Day anymore?

00:42:50.500 Most people don't even know who we fought against for independence.

00:42:56.680 They think we fought for independence.

00:42:59.000 Most people think we fought the South. 1.00

00:43:01.180 Oh, and yet we'll light the sparklers and blow our fingers off because we're just that stupid. 1.00

00:43:09.120 This Independence Day weekend, would you do me and yourself and your country a favor and read the words out loud? 0.99

00:43:21.300 God, speak the words out loud.

00:43:24.880 When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with one another,

00:43:33.240 and to assume among the powers of earth the separate but equal station to which the laws of nature and nature's God entitle them.

00:43:42.440 A decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

00:43:53.540 What are they saying?

00:43:55.780 Look, we want to be decent people.

00:43:59.600 We want to be decent people, and we have to separate, but we believe it's only right that we tell you why we have to separate.

00:44:06.700 And it's not because of all the bad things you've done.

00:44:09.760 We'll get to those later.

00:44:11.180 It's because we're different, and you don't understand.

00:44:15.080 You have been telling us all of these things we no longer believe, and we hold these truths to be self-evident,

00:44:22.120 that all men are created equal, and they're endowed by their creator with certain unalienable, unchangeable rights.

00:44:29.540 And just among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:44:33.820 That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

00:44:43.600 My gosh, read those words and let your children hear what thinking and courage sounds like.

00:44:52.460 That to secure these rights, I'm telling you, the king who thinks that your government was given to you by God,

00:45:00.640 and you are the ruler, and you will tell everybody what to think, what to do, what to buy, what to sell, what to tax, what not to tax,

00:45:08.640 who gets land, who doesn't get land.

00:45:11.060 No, no, no.

00:45:13.140 Governments are instituted among men, deriving their powers, their just powers, from the people.

00:45:21.100 And that government is only there, established by those men, to protect the rights that God has given each of those men.

00:45:29.840 Let them feel the chill that runs down the spine when Jefferson writes,

00:45:35.180 Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the government, or from the governed.

00:45:42.060 Let them hear the words of responsibility.

00:45:47.700 What responsibility sounds like with courage and freedom.

00:45:54.440 That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these rights,

00:46:00.440 it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it,

00:46:03.700 and to institute a new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them,

00:46:12.340 shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness.

00:46:15.860 In other words, you have the right, you have the responsibility to stop tyrants.

00:46:21.360 And if the government has gone bad, to throw that government off, but reconstitute a government

00:46:27.580 that will do a better job at protecting those rights.

00:46:31.420 Not to form a communist government, not to do anything else, but you want a new government?

00:46:37.140 Fine.

00:46:38.060 Let's find the way to make men more free. 1.00

00:46:42.460 This is not a metaphor.

00:46:44.380 This is a declaration of war on tyranny in all of its forms.

00:46:48.420 I mean, I said yesterday, freedom isn't free.

00:46:52.820 It was paid for by somebody's blood.

00:46:54.840 But you have to remember, they paid for their freedom, not for our freedom necessarily.

00:46:58.800 It comes a time we have to pay for our freedom.

00:47:01.220 And God forbid that it comes down to blood, but at least shake off the apathy.

00:47:09.220 We must renew this promise of this experiment of America.

00:47:14.580 America, we need to fight for it as well, an out-of-control government that seeks to rope

00:47:20.480 us into forever wars over and over again.

00:47:23.140 We're all against forever wars.

00:47:24.700 I'm against it.

00:47:25.460 I hate them.

00:47:27.080 But there is one forever war that is required in a free society, a different kind of forever

00:47:33.440 war.

00:47:35.100 A war against ourselves.

00:47:36.960 A war against human nature in each of us.

00:47:39.400 Because of human nature, we get fat, we get lazy, we get tolerant of abuses.

00:47:45.620 Let your children hear you speak these words, and when you speak them, ponder them yourself.

00:47:53.760 Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light

00:47:59.860 and transient causes.

00:48:01.120 And, accordingly, all experience has shown that mankind is more disposed to suffer while

00:48:08.520 the evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms in which they're accustomed.

00:48:14.940 But when a long train of abuses and usurptations pursuing invariably the same object invinces a

00:48:21.800 designed to reduce them under absolute despotism, it's their right, it's their duty to throw off

00:48:29.700 such government and to provide new guards for their future security.

00:48:33.700 In one paragraph, they make the point twice, and they tell us, look, we've studied people,

00:48:40.520 we know you're going to get fat and lazy and apathetic, and you're not going to want to do

00:48:45.620 stuff for transient causes because this is really not good.

00:48:49.200 But when push comes to shove and everything is moving towards absolute despotism, absolute

00:48:56.900 tyranny, then you must stand up.

00:49:03.380 I ask you to ponder this, this particular part when a long train of abuses and usurptations

00:49:09.980 prudence will indeed dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light

00:49:15.240 and transient causes.

00:49:16.080 And accordingly, all experience has shown that mankind is more disposed to suffer while

00:49:21.180 the evils are sufferer than to right themselves.

00:49:23.400 Aren't we exactly the same people that their experience was talking about?

00:49:32.940 Aren't we the people that are more disposed to suffer than to right ourselves because we're

00:49:39.200 too comfortable or we're too afraid just to stand up and simply say no to lies?

00:49:46.540 No, there is a difference between men and women.

00:49:52.580 No, communism is to be feared.

00:49:57.620 It's killed over a hundred million people in the last 100 years. 0.99

00:50:02.440 No, Muslims aren't bad. 0.99

00:50:05.200 Islamism is. 1.00

00:50:07.180 It's evil. 0.99

00:50:08.300 No, you can peacefully protest anytime, anyplace, and I will fight to the death for your right

00:50:18.200 to do that.

00:50:18.900 But when you start burning cities down to the ground, no.

00:50:26.900 We're just a few days away.

00:50:28.560 And we mark our 249th birthday, maybe, just maybe, this year, can we stop asking what America

00:50:36.540 was and start deciding what America will be before it just slips quietly into history in

00:50:45.260 the dark of apathy and ignorance?

00:50:47.800 Because the only thing more dangerous than tyranny is the people who have forgotten what it took

00:50:54.800 to break its chains.

00:50:56.120 When I found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from Winners, I started wondering,

00:51:05.260 is every fabulous item I see from Winners?

00:51:08.360 Like that woman over there with the designer jeans. 1.00

00:51:11.080 Are those from Winners?

00:51:12.620 Ooh, or those beautiful gold earrings?

00:51:15.060 Did she pay full price?

00:51:16.420 Or that leather tote?

00:51:17.420 Or that cashmere sweater?

00:51:18.640 Or those knee-high boots?

00:51:20.060 That dress?

00:51:20.900 That jacket?

00:51:21.580 Those shoes?

00:51:22.240 Is anyone paying full price for anything?

00:51:25.100 Stop wondering, start winning.

00:51:27.760 Winners, find fabulous for less.

The Glenn Beck Program - July 01, 2025

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