The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guest： Rep. Chris Stewart ｜ 1⧸7⧸21

00:00:00.000 Well, Stu, another exciting day.

00:00:05.720 2021 is great so far.

00:00:07.920 Oh, I'm glad 2020's over.

00:00:10.460 Oh, yeah.

00:00:11.500 Sure am too.

00:00:12.700 Oh, crap.

00:00:14.160 All right.

00:00:14.560 We had a really great podcast today.

00:00:17.060 We spent a lot of time, all the entire time, talking about what happened yesterday in Washington.

00:00:24.040 And from mainly people that were there.

00:00:27.700 I think you're really going to love what people had to say.

00:00:30.420 Some of them disagree with me.

00:00:32.440 You know, my position was made clear on this podcast.

00:00:35.900 You'll hear.

00:00:36.960 But great civil conversations about where we go from here and what happened yesterday.

00:00:44.660 Who was right?

00:00:45.660 Who was wrong?

00:00:46.860 All that.

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00:01:11.340 I have bad news for you.

00:01:14.080 This is only the beginning.

00:01:17.860 And why?

00:01:19.060 Well, because we are at a crossroads in the nation.

00:01:28.860 People are longing to be free.

00:01:32.360 And they have seen disturbing attempts to subvert their freedoms and impose on their lives.

00:01:41.340 When people have lost their jobs.

00:01:53.940 Are living in states where there's draconian measures.

00:02:00.200 They've been told to shut their business down.

00:02:05.920 And they've been told to pipe down because you want to kill grandma.

00:02:09.980 Meanwhile.

00:02:11.460 People like Cuomo are actually killing grandma and grandpa.

00:02:16.080 When people have done everything they can and actually started in my my example.

00:02:30.640 Started from the premise that, yeah, Donald Trump probably was working with the Russians.

00:02:37.020 Yeah, well, if he was doing something, he should go to jail and then actually did the work and found out the exact opposite was true.

00:02:48.140 And the more you found out, the more you realized the entire government seemed to be in on it.

00:02:56.020 The FBI knew that this was a plan from Clinton.

00:03:01.060 They knew it.

00:03:04.500 And they did nothing.

00:03:06.420 And when you expose it, no one goes to jail.

00:03:15.200 When people feel as though their voice is being silenced.

00:03:21.780 That even their own representatives from their own party treat them like garbage.

00:03:27.820 When they've been called racist, bigots.

00:03:33.540 When they've been called conspiracy theorists over things like the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:03:41.000 That now the press says, oh, I guess there is something there.

00:03:45.520 But we all feel that nothing will ever happen.

00:03:51.940 What are they supposed to do?

00:03:54.540 Now, here's let me make this very clear.

00:03:57.820 They are not supposed to get violent.

00:04:01.580 We have a right of free speech, of petitioning our government.

00:04:07.440 We have a right to demand answers.

00:04:14.960 But we don't destroy the Capitol.

00:04:20.540 We don't.

00:04:22.000 You know, I feel horrible saying this, but I have to say it if I'm to be consistent.

00:04:30.800 I, for years, have talked about this.

00:04:35.720 And the last summer, 90 days of violence, burning things down, challenging, pushing cops, not obeying the law, not obeying a cop.

00:04:50.480 We told you, if you are running and the cop says, stop, you stop.

00:04:56.240 Otherwise, you could get shot and killed.

00:05:01.180 This woman that was killed in the Capitol, shot by police officers.

00:05:08.420 Was she obeying?

00:05:13.980 Stop.

00:05:14.780 Don't come in.

00:05:16.340 Don't do this.

00:05:18.040 She's trying to get into the floor of the house. 1.00

00:05:21.080 She's shot.

00:05:22.440 I don't think she deserved to die.

00:05:24.880 I don't think she should have been shot.

00:05:26.900 But there's no, in my opinion, there's no justification of shooting through a door at somebody.

00:05:35.160 But.

00:05:38.180 She was trying to go into the House of Representatives. 1.00

00:05:42.020 The people on the other side of the door had no idea if these people were armed or anything.

00:05:48.520 For consistency sake, I have to say the same thing that I said over the summer.

00:05:54.240 Obey the police.

00:05:56.900 But what do people do when the institutions that are supposed to address matters lawfully don't?

00:06:17.160 What do people do when they feel like nobody's listening to me?

00:06:22.500 I mean, this is why I was in support of what Senator Cruz was doing, Chris Stewart was doing, saying, look, give us 10 days.

00:06:36.240 10 days and a hearing.

00:06:38.500 I don't know this for a fact.

00:06:43.640 Well, I do from Chris Stewart.

00:06:47.000 Because I've talked to him about it.

00:06:50.320 Chris knew that this isn't going to change anything.

00:06:53.760 It's not going to change the outcome because there's no time.

00:06:57.120 And there is no, there's no trigger or mechanism in the Constitution.

00:07:03.660 So it's not going to change anything except one very important thing.

00:07:08.660 You take the charges from half the country seriously.

00:07:15.500 And you seriously consider them.

00:07:19.120 You listen.

00:07:20.100 Nobody wants to do that.

00:07:26.820 You're a conspiracy theorist.

00:07:28.900 Shut up. 0.95

00:07:30.000 Sit down.

00:07:32.960 Why won't people hear a case?

00:07:35.060 Consider evidence.

00:07:36.520 Why the double standard?

00:07:37.960 Why, when Hillary Clinton was sharing on her own private server, confidential, top secret documents, nothing happens to her. 0.99

00:07:51.680 But a guy who takes a picture of the inside of a submarine for his kid, nothing sensitive, just breaking the law, taking a picture of inside of a U.S. submarine, he goes to jail.

00:08:05.280 Nothing happens to Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:08:09.500 You can't do that.

00:08:11.800 You can't do that.

00:08:14.000 Don't talk to me about the rule of law unless you're willing to apply the rule of law equally.

00:08:22.180 Now, I can talk about the rule of law because I'm consistent.

00:08:28.700 And quite honestly, so is the audience.

00:08:31.400 90 days, you did nothing.

00:08:37.080 You said nothing.

00:08:43.100 Oh, man, didn't take you 90 days.

00:08:45.500 It took you about two and a half minutes to start calling these people seditious terrorists.

00:08:51.560 Where the hell were you with Antifa?

00:08:57.360 I was saying those people should be arrested and it was wrong.

00:09:01.020 Today, those people who went in, tore up our Capitol, broke the windows, put their feet up on people's desks, destroyed public property.

00:09:14.340 Maybe they should be arrested.

00:09:20.560 But I think the left should be arrested as well.

00:09:23.620 What do people do with double standards and corruption?

00:09:34.600 What do people do when the rule of law is corrupted by so many bad actors in nearly every institution that people feel powerless?

00:09:46.440 When they see massive investigations launched by Congress, when Trump makes a phone call to Ukraine, but when real corruption with far more evidence and consequence, like voter fraud, Hunter Biden or the real story of Ukraine.

00:10:04.140 When that's completely ignored, what do you do when the system is no longer followed?

00:10:10.560 What do you do?

00:10:11.820 Because you've always been told you were raised to believe in America, that America answers to the people.

00:10:20.140 When you can't trust anything because it's shady, fraudulent, illegal, and nobody cares.

00:10:35.520 When you can't trust anyone, you can't trust your own party.

00:10:41.220 You can't trust the other party.

00:10:43.400 You can't trust any politician.

00:10:45.640 You can't trust the courts.

00:10:47.460 You can't trust the Supreme Court.

00:10:49.480 You can't trust everybody in the administration.

00:10:52.620 You can't trust the police.

00:10:55.020 You can't trust the DOJ.

00:10:57.320 You can't trust the FBI.

00:10:59.720 You can't trust the military.

00:11:02.380 You can't trust your own schools and your teachers.

00:11:09.240 What do you do?

00:11:13.220 There is no excuse for what happened yesterday.

00:11:16.700 But there are reasons it happened.

00:11:20.860 And unless and until we have a serious conversation about what started that, it wasn't Donald Trump.

00:11:32.620 Donald Trump is an effect.

00:11:35.360 He is not the cause.

00:11:37.440 He's an effect.

00:11:38.780 But this is not going to be the last time this happens, God forbid.

00:11:51.980 Today, I plead with you.

00:11:55.940 Let's be adults.

00:11:57.340 And let's talk about it.

00:12:06.600 Anger and fear will get us nowhere.

00:12:11.560 I give up.

00:12:16.480 I surrender to the tactics of the left.

00:12:22.020 If we become everything we despise, we are truly done as a nation.

00:12:27.260 I want to make it very, very clear that there are many reasons.

00:12:53.240 Normal people will go nuts and do things like they did yesterday.

00:13:00.260 Many reasons.

00:13:01.400 And they should be discussed.

00:13:03.120 But there is never an excuse for violence.

00:13:07.660 Never an excuse for violence.

00:13:11.020 It's stupid.

00:13:12.320 It is a proven failure when BLM, 70 or 78 percent approval rating at the beginning.

00:13:24.360 Black Lives Matter approval rating, now about 20.

00:13:26.740 Why?

00:13:28.000 Because violence, it doesn't connect with Americans.

00:13:33.300 It's not the way to win.

00:13:36.560 And it's just wrong.

00:13:38.640 Period.

00:13:39.060 Period.

00:13:40.700 With that being said, I want to hear from people who were there yesterday.

00:13:45.600 People who saw it.

00:13:47.720 People who experienced it.

00:13:49.480 And I want to talk to a good friend of mine who was there, actually in the house.

00:13:55.780 Chris Stewart, a congressman from Utah.

00:13:58.960 Chris, how are you today?

00:14:01.260 Well, I think like a lot of Americans, we're weary and a little saddened by what we saw.

00:14:05.260 But I appreciate you making the point about violence and how it actually hurts the cause.

00:14:10.920 It hurts what we're trying to do and what we're trying to accomplish.

00:14:14.060 And I do appreciate you making that point.

00:14:16.600 And there was plenty of violence yesterday.

00:14:19.220 I mean, I saw cops get dragged into the crowd and just the crap beat out of them.

00:14:24.200 I saw other injuries.

00:14:26.360 And, of course, we know that people lost their lives yesterday.

00:14:29.240 That does not help.

00:14:30.580 That does not help our country.

00:14:32.360 I have to tell you, Chris, the woman that was shot, it I don't think there was I'm saying the same things that I said, you know, during the Antifa stuff.

00:14:44.500 If you don't obey the police, you have a chance of getting shot, especially in a situation where it's just chaotic.

00:14:51.980 So you always have to obey the police fight about it later, but obey the police.

00:14:58.040 I don't think that any cop should have shot her in the neck through the door.

00:15:03.600 But I have to tell you, I was on the other side of the door.

00:15:07.900 Theoretically, I wasn't inside that room.

00:15:11.240 You were inside that room.

00:15:13.320 What was going through your head?

00:15:14.780 Yeah, so I had a kind of a unique vantage point, Glenn.

00:15:18.740 We had a bomb threat here in my office building and we had to leave.

00:15:22.440 And so I was over the Capitol.

00:15:23.720 And then I was trying to come back to my office when a lot of this kicked off and they wouldn't let me.

00:15:27.740 So I was walking through the tunnel back to the Capitol.

00:15:31.000 And it sounded like a herd of horses coming up behind me.

00:15:34.140 You know, maybe a dozen or 20 cops came running behind me.

00:15:37.900 And, you know, then these guys are flat out running and they go rushing by and I kind of followed them.

00:15:44.340 And, you know, I just wanted to observe and see what was happening.

00:15:46.980 And a few minutes later, when they broke into the Capitol, I ended up getting kind of shoved into a room.

00:15:53.380 But the reason that's interesting is it gave me a vantage point because instead of being on the floor, I was in a small room off the floor where I could actually watch the crowd.

00:16:01.940 And they were banging on the windows and pointing at us and trying to get in.

00:16:05.240 And then, you know, my initial feeling was, you know, what are these folks going to do?

00:16:11.520 I mean, they're going to come in here.

00:16:12.760 They're not going to hurt me.

00:16:14.400 I mean, these are just, you know, kind of, you know, Trump supporters, good families, people who just want to come and express their displeasure.

00:16:21.140 But it quickly changed, Glenn.

00:16:22.860 And then shortly after that, we heard the gunshot.

00:16:25.800 And, you know, over the radio with the police officer who was with me, you know, they hear shots fired, shots fired.

00:16:30.540 But from the window, I could watch the crowd.

00:16:32.260 And you could see people who were just, again, kind of normal folks who just wanted, they were distressed about the election.

00:16:38.060 They were, you know, frightened for our future.

00:16:40.440 But you could see this kind of riot mentality develop for, you know, people who weren't Antifa, people who were, again, just kind of people like you and me.

00:16:49.160 But they lost their minds and they all grabbed barricades and start, you know, smashing in windows and hurting each other in some instances.

00:16:55.660 And it was really, really quite something to watch.

00:16:58.920 That's why riots are so bad.

00:17:00.700 That's why mobs are so bad.

00:17:03.200 People do things that they didn't intend to do is out of their character because they just get whipped up into a frenzy.

00:17:13.040 And, you know, people were chanting, this is our house, this is our house.

00:17:18.000 Well, then, if that's your house, then let me just say what my mother used to say.

00:17:21.800 Kids, this is why we don't have nice things.

00:17:24.920 You know, you don't treat your house the way they were treating.

00:17:28.820 And you don't treat people.

00:17:30.580 You know, I felt for you yesterday because you and I have met over the last couple of weeks and and have talked about the things that might come our way.

00:17:41.360 And how do we help diffuse this?

00:17:44.080 How do we and what I thought you and others in the House and the Senate were trying to do was absolutely right.

00:17:52.200 As you know, Chris, two weeks ago, I wasn't for it.

00:17:54.780 I talked to you and you're like, Glenn, people have to be heard.

00:17:58.900 You're right. They have to be heard.

00:18:01.700 It was the right thing to ask for 10 days just to have a legitimate hearing on this so you can tell people and show people that, yes, your voice does matter because people feel like their voices have been squashed.

00:18:17.260 Yeah. Well, there's no doubt about that, Glenn.

00:18:20.080 Everyone everyone wins by the more information we have.

00:18:23.140 Biden wins, the Democrats win, Republicans win.

00:18:26.320 And those tens of millions of Americans that I felt like I was trying to represent.

00:18:30.440 And it wasn't just me.

00:18:31.580 There were many others who feel like, look, I love my country, but I'm scared to death that we've lost the election process, the integrity of the election process, which changes the future for everyone.

00:18:43.180 And we owe it to those tens of millions of Americans to do everything we can to tell them the truth.

00:18:48.420 And that's what that effort was about.

00:18:51.480 And Glenn, could I go back to something that, again, you're talking about the mentality of the crowd and how sometimes people just make mistakes and they lose their minds.

00:19:00.500 I was watching, as I said, from the window and I see these two kind of middle aged.

00:19:05.680 You know, they look like they were 45, maybe 50.

00:19:07.720 Two of them go running forward.

00:19:10.060 They grab this barricade and they rush over and use it as a battering ram to break some windows.

00:19:14.480 And they couldn't break through the windows, but I could close enough, I could see the expressions on their faces.

00:19:20.560 They kind of stop and they look at each other and you could see they go, what in the world are we doing?

00:19:24.120 They put the barricade down and they walk back and rejoin their families.

00:19:28.520 So, again, these were Antifa people.

00:19:31.060 These were just normal folks, but they just got carried away.

00:19:34.780 And then they were embarrassed by it.

00:19:36.760 And they kind of go back and eventually disappeared into the crowd.

00:19:39.940 But, again, that was a that was a kind of a lesson for me to think, as you said, this is why these are bad ideas to get so carried away that you would do something you otherwise never would do.

00:19:51.920 And people get hurt and you hurt the cause.

00:19:55.540 You hurt the things you're fighting for.

00:19:57.540 And I thought your illustration about Black Lives Matter and their approval rating going from, you know, really quite high down into the tank. 0.91

00:20:04.960 And it's almost entirely because of violence.

00:20:08.160 And then, of course, some of the things that they actually believe Americans share that goal.

00:20:12.200 That sounds nuts.

00:20:12.920 I don't believe that.

00:20:14.040 But we don't want to hurt ourselves by doing things that we're embarrassed about or that people get hurt in.

00:20:19.720 Did how did this change the debate when you all resume the debate on the floor after everything settled down?

00:20:28.680 How did it affect?

00:20:30.820 It changed it quite a lot.

00:20:32.180 I mean, we had, as you know, something more than two dozen senators who were originally joining in this effort to question some of these electorals.

00:20:42.820 And at the end of the day, we anticipated four, potentially six states that we were going to contest.

00:20:50.260 And we ended up only doing two.

00:20:51.800 And the debate on them was much more subdued and much shorter, although there was one incident on the floor about 2.30 in the morning where you had, you know, people rush each other and almost come to fisticuffs.

00:21:04.820 And there was, you know, a fair amount of emotion there.

00:21:07.780 But the Senate side particularly felt subdued and just wanted to walk away from it.

00:21:13.360 I was talking with a couple senators just a few minutes ago and trying to get their feeling for it.

00:21:17.600 I mean, it just took all of the energy out of the effort.

00:21:20.760 It took all of the emotion.

00:21:22.380 And many of them and others in the House as well felt like, look, we just need to get this behind us.

00:21:27.480 We know we're not going to change the outcome.

00:21:30.200 Let's just deal with the world as it is and move on.

00:21:35.100 And I think there's no question it changed.

00:21:37.960 It didn't change the outcome in any way, but it certainly changed the process and the debate that we went through to get there.

00:21:43.540 You know, I've said several times the president needs to appoint a special counsel to look into this, because if it's true, it changes everything.

00:21:57.740 It's not going to change the presidency.

00:21:59.940 There is no, correct me if I'm wrong, there is nothing in the Constitution that says what you do if the president's side cheated and he's now the president of the United States.

00:22:11.720 There's no there's no answer for that.

00:22:14.260 So you're not necessarily changing anything.

00:22:16.520 You are ensuring that it never happens again.

00:22:20.120 And that has to be done.

00:22:22.140 Has to.

00:22:23.180 Well, and that's the whole key to this.

00:22:25.400 I mean, the republic can survive one one election where we find ourselves in this situation.

00:22:31.360 And we know that because, you know, most historians and others, you know, accept that it happened in 1960 with Nixon.

00:22:37.820 And yet we have survived.

00:22:39.040 But you can't survive people losing faith to the point that they just say, well, I'm not going to vote anymore.

00:22:44.960 Or the presumption for regardless of who wins for half the country, you think, well, they only won because they cheated.

00:22:50.400 And if we don't if we don't reform the electoral process and the last thing I want, by the way, the very last thing I want is to federalize this.

00:23:00.100 It would be a huge mistake if we did that.

00:23:02.740 Yeah.

00:23:03.380 But but we can but we can incentivize and compel the states to put in, you know, processes of integrity.

00:23:10.400 So we don't find ourselves in this situation every four years, because if we don't, then I promise you every four years, again, regardless of who won, we're going to be in this situation.

00:23:20.780 I mean, the Democrats did it in 2016 when there was zero evidence.

00:23:24.480 But how many of them said he's an illegitimate president?

00:23:27.500 How many of them said he's not my president?

00:23:29.940 And how many of them said I won't be governed by him?

00:23:32.720 And it's going to be worse and worse every year unless we can fix it.

00:23:35.940 Chris, tell me what you think about the idea of states becoming sanctuary states, meaning they they that we strengthen our states and not all states will do it, but strengthen our states that if you start passing things that are unconstitutional, we will not go along with it and we will be a sanctuary state.

00:24:01.580 We stand for the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.

00:24:04.180 And if you decide to change that, you're leaving us.

00:24:07.880 We're not leaving you.

00:24:09.560 Yeah.

00:24:10.420 Well, we had a chance to talk about this a little while ago.

00:24:12.780 And, Glenn, it's something that, you know, has been back in my mind for a couple of years now.

00:24:17.120 You have these sanctuary cities.

00:24:19.280 And for various reasons of which I don't support, by the way, I mean, they're generally over enforcement in the immigration law and maybe one or two others.

00:24:27.780 But they've just essentially said to the federal government, we don't care.

00:24:30.840 We're not going to do it.

00:24:31.580 We're not going to enforce these laws and we're not going to allow you to enforce these laws in our city.

00:24:37.720 And and look, the very last thing I think any of us want to do.

00:24:41.060 People talk about there's going to be a civil war.

00:24:42.820 We're going to divide the country.

00:24:44.340 No, we're not.

00:24:45.140 And if we do, it's a catastrophe for our nation.

00:24:47.780 It's a catastrophe for the rest of the world, because the United States is the only thing holding the world together.

00:24:53.620 And you're never going to do that without bloodshed.

00:24:55.860 But are there things that we could do that would allow some separation where people could be governed the way they feel like they they should be governed?

00:25:03.540 And one of those is to go back to federalism, which is, I think, essentially the idea you're suggesting.

00:25:07.600 And that is allow the states to have the authority to govern their own people so that we don't feel like California values are being imposed on us in my home district of Utah.

00:25:18.640 Right.

00:25:19.040 Where we can say, well, look, if you want to do that, you know, California, if you want to go all in on the Green New Deal and, you know, blah, blah, blah, whatever it might be.

00:25:26.640 Knock yourself out.

00:25:28.280 Go do it.

00:25:29.020 But you can't compel those of us living in the Midwest or living in the Western states or living in the Southern states to comply with morals and standards that we just simply don't don't agree to.

00:25:39.100 And I think ultimately it's the only answer to keep our nation together at the same time and not have people feel like they're being lorded over by a king who doesn't believe that they're worth the values and the integrity that they think are inherent in their own lives.

00:25:53.540 More important than the union, it's the only way to keep us alive, quite honestly.

00:25:59.780 It's the only way to survive as a nation, as a people, is to have certain states and each state can decide for themselves, but elect people who will say we stand for the Constitution here in this state, here in this town.

00:26:18.000 And if unconstitutional things are passed, you go ahead.

00:26:23.760 Go ahead.

00:26:24.300 You can do that in California, not in Texas, not in Texas.

00:26:29.020 Chris, thank you so much.

00:26:30.920 Hey, thank you, sir.

00:26:31.760 It's an honor to be with you.

00:26:32.780 You bet.

00:26:33.220 Chris Stewart, congressman who was there yesterday and fighting for the people that were threatening all of the people on the floor.

00:26:48.000 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:26:58.620 Let me talk to people who were there yesterday, and I want to start with a couple of people that disagree with me.

00:27:08.140 The bottom of the screen, I can't see the last one on the screen.

00:27:13.420 Is it Mike?

00:27:14.480 Okay.

00:27:14.800 Hi, Mike.

00:27:15.280 Mike, are you there?

00:27:18.600 Glenn, how are you?

00:27:19.300 I'm good, sir.

00:27:19.960 How are you?

00:27:20.800 I am here.

00:27:22.080 Okay.

00:27:23.100 Well, I love your show.

00:27:26.060 Obviously, I waited over an hour to talk to you.

00:27:27.940 I'm sorry about that.

00:27:28.500 Really, I guess what it boils down to is this.

00:27:31.160 I know it's a pleasure.

00:27:32.620 A lot of interesting information out there.

00:27:34.460 I watched this yesterday on a limited basis, news reviews, whatnot, and trying to boil this down to one thing.

00:27:41.700 I mean, is righteousness always going to be passive?

00:27:44.880 I just find too many places in righteous history where people just stood up and said, you know, enough is enough.

00:27:51.980 And I guess, you know, we talk about the ballot box.

00:27:54.860 We've got to have the ballot box.

00:27:56.120 We've got to have the ballot box.

00:27:57.180 But you know what happens when the ballot box fails, the powder box is next.

00:28:00.780 And we didn't have that yet.

00:28:02.660 But for one, I find it kind of comical that McConnell and a few others were talking about, you know, we're not going to be intimidated.

00:28:09.740 Well, the videos out there, they were all pretty intimidated because they thought that the people were coming for them.

00:28:15.660 But this was not, you know, pitchforks in the fire quite yet.

00:28:21.540 But, you know, well, I mean, there were four people that were killed.

00:28:27.380 So let's, you know, let's not diminish what happened.

00:28:32.260 You know, this was violent.

00:28:36.360 It was bad.

00:28:37.540 I believe it was wrong because there are other options.

00:28:42.480 I mean, I just talked about one a few minutes ago.

00:28:45.700 We have to we have to organize at the state and local level.

00:28:50.560 We've been trying to win it at the national level.

00:28:53.160 It's not going to happen.

00:28:54.440 It's just not going to happen.

00:28:56.100 We've learned that lesson over the years.

00:28:58.200 And boy, did we learn it this this time.

00:29:01.220 The states are the ones that control the voting process.

00:29:05.700 We allowed our states to go completely out of control.

00:29:09.880 A few of them.

00:29:10.560 We have to fix it at the state level.

00:29:13.940 The voting has to be fixed at the state level.

00:29:17.060 And we have more influence, but closer to home.

00:29:22.780 We also need to find ourselves and find out if we're living in a state that will hold the line against unconstitutional action.

00:29:31.460 I believe that the the best thing to do right now is to get your your state, your governor and your and your your house and Senate to be able to stand up now and say, hey, we're cool.

00:29:50.240 Until you start messing with the bill of rights, until you start messing with the Constitution, if this is unconstitutional, I don't care what the Supreme Court says.

00:29:59.860 I don't care what anybody says.

00:30:01.580 If our state believes that this is wrong and unconstitutional, we're not going to abide.

00:30:07.780 You can do it in California all you want.

00:30:09.420 Not here.

00:30:09.940 And the states need the 10th Amendment and we really need to stand strong locally.

00:30:17.440 That is, I think, the next step.

00:30:21.000 Pull back and guard the home.

00:30:24.240 Guard the home.

00:30:25.400 You disagree with that, Mike?

00:30:26.900 May I make two quick comments?

00:30:28.360 Sure.

00:30:28.600 I would like to say that, first of all, I don't see much chance of any type of change happening in the places where it needs to happen, such as Atlanta, such as Philadelphia, such as Chicago.

00:30:40.520 They're not going to change.

00:30:42.160 Those those cultures have been corrupted.

00:30:45.160 And beyond that, I hear everybody talking about patience.

00:30:49.120 And I understand it's tragic that the girl got shot.

00:30:52.180 That shouldn't happen.

00:30:53.440 Or the three other person there that was breaking into the Capitol.

00:30:56.600 Right.

00:30:56.860 Well, there's not a person who was there that was involved in the melee who physically said, yeah, let's take the Capitol.

00:31:02.920 Let's go in there and show them that the people are here to let our voice be heard.

00:31:06.040 None of those people thought this was totally safe.

00:31:08.460 They knew there was a chance they could be repelled by the police, including getting shot.

00:31:13.100 So none of those people took a risk without knowing.

00:31:15.720 But, you know, again, I hear a lot of patience being preached here.

00:31:19.660 And I'm glad that our forefathers weren't as patient with the British as we're being told to be patient now. 0.98

00:31:25.660 I think people are fed up.

00:31:27.280 I think the ballot box.

00:31:28.160 Do you?

00:31:28.640 How many years?

00:31:29.540 How many years?

00:31:30.720 How many years did our founders fight the British before the actual war?

00:31:37.280 How many years?

00:31:39.720 Before the Revolutionary War?

00:31:41.340 Yeah.

00:31:41.920 Oh, it went on for 15 or 20 years.

00:31:43.980 It went on for a while.

00:31:45.180 A little longer than that.

00:31:46.100 And they didn't wear it.

00:31:47.100 They didn't.

00:31:48.080 Well, but I'm saying the real fighting.

00:31:49.760 They didn't negotiate to the very end.

00:31:52.720 They finally said, you know what?

00:31:53.820 They don't negotiate in good faith.

00:31:55.700 We will have to take up arms.

00:31:57.840 So these people are there saying, hey, we're not taking up arms yet.

00:32:00.520 But look what we can do with just showing up with a lot of people.

00:32:03.540 And again, these people, they can get on TV and say, oh, we're not going to be intimidated.

00:32:07.280 Well, they look pretty intimidated to me.

00:32:09.580 Well, it looks like they have a healthy conscience.

00:32:12.020 I want you to know that I respect a difference of opinion, and I appreciate your call, and

00:32:22.820 I appreciate you be willing to have a decent, calm, collected conversation.

00:32:28.560 I disagree with you.

00:32:30.080 I am a student of history.

00:32:31.520 I know what the founders did prior.

00:32:34.160 I know what Martin Luther King did, and I also know what Malcolm X was preaching.

00:32:40.460 And Malcolm X was on the road that you are on today.

00:32:46.020 And I understand it.

00:32:48.380 I understand.

00:32:49.440 Can you imagine?

00:32:50.580 Put yourself, you think we have it bad.

00:32:52.780 We've had it bad for, what, 10 years, 15 years?

00:32:56.500 And I know this has been a slow slope, you know, slippery slope, but we haven't really

00:33:01.520 even begun to approach where blacks were in the 1950s and 60s.

00:33:07.700 I mean, you think we've been called names?

00:33:11.900 How about blacks in America in the 50s and 60s?

00:33:15.120 And they had been going on for 100 years after they were enslaved.

00:33:21.440 And it was justifiable to say, enough, kill them, kill them, have violence, white people, 0.88

00:33:31.720 bad.

00:33:32.280 They had justification to do that and say that.

00:33:35.840 That wasn't the way to win.

00:33:38.360 So you can have righteous indignation, but that doesn't mean that your solution, even

00:33:46.740 if you're justified, is going to work.

00:33:49.280 Right.

00:33:52.240 Well, I would be interested in your continued thoughts on whether righteousness can always

00:33:57.200 be passive and thought about when Jesus cleared the temple because of the corruption.

00:34:02.360 Right.

00:34:02.740 And I will remind you of the time that Jesus preached peace every time, including forgiveness

00:34:11.040 of those who were crucifying him.

00:34:13.260 So he won in the end, not because he turned over the tables.

00:34:18.860 He won in the end because he was peaceful.

00:34:22.500 And just so you know, the good news is the good news is you and I are going to win in

00:34:26.240 the end because the reality is every day I wake up and I said, Lord, this is a mess, but

00:34:30.480 I pray your will be done because I know that as people, you know, it's beyond our ability.

00:34:35.080 We need you to interact.

00:34:36.320 And I feel like he gave us Trump for four years.

00:34:38.940 He used a mule.

00:34:40.740 Yeah.

00:34:41.700 Some good thing.

00:34:42.600 Yeah.

00:34:43.060 And I have to tell you, Mike, you heard me.

00:34:45.900 I'm sure you heard me before Trump got into office.

00:34:49.440 I was dead set against him because I thought there's no way.

00:34:52.580 And it really pissed me off when people are like, God's chosen him.

00:34:56.560 Oh, my gosh.

00:34:58.400 No.

00:34:59.580 But let me tell you this.

00:35:01.580 God does remarkable things, remarkable things.

00:35:06.180 And he is going to take this horrible situation and it's going to turn out all right.

00:35:13.760 He doesn't lose.

00:35:14.860 He doesn't lose.

00:35:15.860 And if we are always on his side, miracles will happen.

00:35:22.300 He's never going to be on our side.

00:35:23.960 We have to be on his side.

00:35:26.220 And you watch miracles beyond our understanding will happen.

00:35:31.200 Thank you, Mike.

00:35:31.880 Thanks for a civil conversation.

00:35:33.740 You know, I think, too, we have to keep.

00:35:35.440 I'm glad you brought that up because there has to be some perspective here.

00:35:38.080 Right.

00:35:38.340 I mean, you know, people were 2016 happened.

00:35:42.420 A lot of people in the audience have called us many, many times.

00:35:44.740 And we've talked about them as well.

00:35:46.280 Really positive things that have occurred in that time.

00:35:49.440 Good accomplishments and advancing the ball, the direction we wanted it advanced.

00:35:55.280 And, you know, look, that's not going to be the next four years right now.

00:35:58.760 It's going to be especially the next two are going to be incredibly difficult,

00:36:01.460 difficult considering what just happened in Georgia.

00:36:04.400 But, you know, we've had in the last decade, we've had the Trump election.

00:36:09.240 You've had two of the biggest wave elections in American history with the Tea Party in 2010 and 2014.

00:36:18.720 You've changed the makeup of the Supreme Court.

00:36:20.980 Changed the makeup of the Supreme Court, which is a major accomplishment.

00:36:22.980 You had, for the first time, a president who did more than say, I'm against abortion.

00:36:28.860 Yeah.

00:36:29.260 I mean, he actually fought against abortion.

00:36:32.920 It's tremendous.

00:36:33.660 And, you know, look, I think, I do think part of this, and I think part of it was with the BLM stuff in the summer,

00:36:39.600 and part of it is what's with the boiling over right now.

00:36:42.380 We have had, the last year has been remarkably terrible.

00:36:47.620 You know, people have lost their jobs, their businesses.

00:36:50.400 Hundreds of thousands of people have died from a virus.

00:36:53.780 All of these things combined to a really agitated, angsty sort of time.

00:37:01.100 And part of that is this, I think, you know, but you have to look at the bigger picture here.

00:37:05.640 There have been accomplishments.

00:37:06.760 It's not like Republicans and conservatives have been out of power for 50 years.

00:37:10.860 There's been a lot accomplished recently.

00:37:12.620 And we also should add on, and these are things that you've brought up in your books, Glenn.

00:37:17.240 But, like, we've done things like eliminating billions of people out of poverty.

00:37:22.840 Yes.

00:37:23.120 You know, there have been incredible accomplishments.

00:37:25.160 This is not the worst time in American history.

00:37:27.260 And look at this as well.

00:37:30.160 Look at what the left is doing.

00:37:32.060 The left is so overreaching that Californians are saying, enough, Gavin Newsom.

00:37:39.980 It's the biggest recall effort in the history of America.

00:37:45.180 Okay?

00:37:47.200 Californians are saying, this is insane.

00:37:51.380 Liberals have become conservatives.

00:37:53.840 Liberals have become libertarians and said, oh, slow down on this big government thing.

00:38:01.180 There is great, profound movement.

00:38:04.700 Californians are moving to Texas.

00:38:06.360 And I swear to God, if they wreck our state.

00:38:08.860 But they're moving.

00:38:10.000 And the ones that I know, I had a real estate agent called me.

00:38:13.740 And he said, Glenn, I want you to know, Californians are moving into your neighborhood like crazy.

00:38:19.160 And I said, do you have you checked them out?

00:38:23.220 And he's like, yeah.

00:38:24.600 He said, we talk.

00:38:25.800 He said, they're conservatives that just have lived in California forever and just cannot take it.

00:38:30.700 He said, one of them is liberal.

00:38:32.460 He said, but he understood why he was moving to Texas.

00:38:36.300 He's like, all of our policies, all of our policies are just bad for business.

00:38:40.500 Everything else got to do it the Texas way.

00:38:42.880 That's a big deal.

00:38:44.360 That's a big deal.

00:38:45.480 They're coming to Texas because Texas works.

00:38:49.200 And Texas is a happy place.

00:38:50.960 It is.

00:38:51.700 It's a happy place.

00:38:53.360 If we were just a bunch of, quite honestly, a-holes that were walking around, nobody's going to move here. 1.00

00:39:01.920 Nobody's going to move here.

00:39:02.600 We were at our gun like, you get out of here.

00:39:05.740 Nobody would move here.

00:39:07.000 Got to be a happy warrior because people will be searching for an answer.

00:39:12.280 And I got news for you.

00:39:13.600 We got the answer.

00:39:15.560 Conservatives have it.

00:39:17.600 Small government people have it.

00:39:19.240 People who, you want to fix the nation?

00:39:21.860 What do you say we apply the Bill of Rights?

00:39:23.860 Just that.

00:39:25.040 That alone will change the world.

00:39:27.380 Na-na-na-na-na.

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