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On this episode of the Glenn Beck Show, host Glenn Beck is joined by the White House Correspondent's Office Chief of Staff Adam Schiff to discuss the latest in the ongoing saga of the so-called "Whistleblower."
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Hey, podcasters, it's Thursday and a great podcast for you to listen to today to really gain
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perspective. Right before we went on the air and started recording the podcast, we got the
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raw data from the whistleblower. And so we just went through it. And that's what this podcast is
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about just going line by line. And we stumbled into some things that I don't think you're going
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to hear anywhere else. This is not about Joe Biden. And this really isn't about Donald Trump.
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It's what Donald Trump is trying to expose. You'll understand why Nancy Pelosi was so adamant that we
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have to impeach him. This is a battle of titans. And you'll understand it and totally new perspective
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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To the Honorable Richard Burr, Chairman, Select Committee on Intelligence, United States Senate,
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and the Honorable Adam Schiff, Chairman, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, House of
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Representatives. Dear Chairman Burr and Chairman Schiff, I am reporting this is the whistleblower now.
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This is August 12th, 2019. I am reporting an urgent concern in accordance with the procedures
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outlined in 50 USC, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This letter is unclassified when separated from
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the attachment. In the course of my official duties, I have received information from multiple US
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government officials that the president of the United States is using his power of his office
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to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 US elections.
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Wow, that's quite a charge. The interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign
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country to investigate one of the president's main domestic political rivals. The president's personal
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lawyer, Rudolph Giuliani, is central figure in this effort. Attorney General Barr appears to be involved
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as well. Okay, so I want to set this out from the outset. In the course of my official duties,
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I have received information from multiple US government officials. So in other words,
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what he's about to present, he has no firsthand knowledge of. But even if he did, what he's saying,
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I don't know if there's a problem. He said over the past four months, more than half a dozen US
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officials have informed me of various facts related to this effort. The information provided herein
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was relayed to me in the course of official interagency business. It is routine for US
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officials with responsibility for a particular regional or functional portfolio to share such
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information with one another in order to inform policymaking and analysis. So in other words,
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I want you to know we're not doing anything weird here. I was not a direct witness to most of the
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events described. Let me read that again. I was not a direct witness to most of the events described.
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However, I found my colleagues accounts of these events to be credible because in almost all cases,
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multiple officials recounted a fact pattern that was consistent with one another. In addition,
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a variety of information, a variety of information consistent with these private accounts has been
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reported publicly. Now, let me tell you something. First of all, we'll let you decide whether there's
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anything in this. But I just, I want you to know, I really truly believe we would have read this
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document differently had the press and the intelligence community not spent the last three and a half to
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four years trying to take this president down on everything. This used to mean something when you'd have a so-called
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whistleblower. But does anybody trust the press, the intelligence community, the DOJ, any of it?
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They have so discredited themselves that you don't know what's real and what's not.
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He says, I am deeply concerned that the actions described below constitute a serious or
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flagrant problem, abuse, or violation of law or executive order that does not include differences
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of opinions concerning public policy matters. It is consistent with the definition of an urgent
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concern in U.S. C 50, blah, blah, blah. I am therefore fulfilling my duty to report this information
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through proper legal channels to the relevant authorities. I am also concerned that these
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actions pose risk to the U.S. national security and undermine the U.S. government's efforts to deter
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and counter foreign interference in U.S. elections. To the best of my knowledge, the entirety of this
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statement is unclassified when separated from the classified enclosure. Stu, do we have the classified
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enclosure? There is a classified appendix which is attached to it. Okay, it's only a little bit of
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black boxes, right? Yeah, there's yes. I have endeavored to apply the classification standards
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outlined in Executive Order 13-526 and to separate out information that I know or have reason to believe
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is classified for national security purposes. If a classification marking is applied retroactively,
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I believe it is incumbent upon the classifying authority to explain why such a marking was applied
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and to which specific information it pertains. So here's his case. One, the 25th July presidential
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phone call. Now remember, we went over this yesterday. And because you may have missed yesterday's show and
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maybe really only heard the reporting with ellipses, the media in newspaper, online, on television, on all fronts
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used an ellipse three, you know, dot, dot, dot, use the ellipse to to skip over five, about 540 words.
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Now, I've never seen that done before, but they removed almost an entire page between I have a favor to ask
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and could you look into Joe Biden? What those ellipses took out was the president looking to say to the
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the president of the Ukraine. I, I, I need you to understand, we think you're surrounded by some of the bad guys
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that hacked into the DNC servers. That server is still lost. We need to know where that server is.
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We think one of the oligarchs maybe in your circle has it or knows where it is. We need to know that because we've been
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doing this investigation with Robert Mueller and he's got nothing. He's been looking into me. He should be
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looking into Russia and that those Russian oligarchs have infiltrated your oligarchs and we think they're
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working together. Now that is national security. That's doing what the Congress and everybody else
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should have been doing, but they didn't. So here's how they described the phone call in this
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whistleblowers report. Early in the morning of July 25, the president spoke by telephone with the
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Ukrainian president Zelensky. I do not know which side initiated the call, but this was the first
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publicly acknowledged call between the two leaders since a brief congratulatory call after Mr. Zelensky won
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the presidency on April 21st. Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call
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informed me that after the initial exchange of pleasantries, the president used the remainder of
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the call to advance his personal interests. Stu, fact check.
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That's that the personal interest. I mean, after they had a exchange of pleasantries, the president
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used the remainder of the call to advance his personal interests. I mean, it certainly wasn't
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the remainder of the call. There was other things discussed as well. And you could certainly,
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if you want to take the worst reading of Trump's words, that they were only about his own personal
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interest, then you could say that to some degree. However, his personal interests seemingly align with
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a national interest in that if we had a vice president of the United States participating in
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corruption related to favoring his child and also a bunch of money over a billion dollars disappearing,
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that would be of the national interest of the United States. Sure would be. But beyond that,
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you know, it wasn't in his personal interest because he said, I need you to look into apparently
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they call it crowd strike. He didn't even understand what he was talking about. It did seem like he was
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reading notes about what he was supposed to say. He was briefed on here's what you need to tell them
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to further the Russian investigation. That's a pretty big thing just to overlook because that
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was the main thrust of the call. And if you watched again, you know, mainstream news last night,
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the way you understood everything we're talking about right now is dot dot dot. And yes, they didn't cover
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this. They just said, I want you to do me a favor. Can you look into Joe Biden and his son?
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Incredible. We have some audio of them doing this, so we should play at some point today. Yeah. Okay.
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Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge informed me, namely, he sought to pressure Ukrainian
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leader to take actions to help the president 2020 reelection bid. That is untrue.
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He mainly, listen to this, he mainly sought to pressure the Ukrainian leader to take actions
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to help the president's 2020 reelection bid. He did not pressure him. First of all, he did not ask him
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to take steps to help him in his reelection bid. Right. I mean, obviously, again, the worst reading of
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it, you could say that, right? You could say he could use the word reciprocal. He, uh, he did ask
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for things. And you could say, if you're the president of Ukraine, the president of the United
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States is mentioning stuff. It goes to the top of your heap of, of, of things to do. Of course it
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does. So you could, you could argue these things, but again, a lot of assumption here, but that was
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not a legal case. Yeah. And that was not the first thing on the list. Right. The first thing on the
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list was help us investigate and stop Russia from taking your military apart and interfering in our
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elections. We need this information. Can you find this totally legitimate, totally legitimate.
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Stu, have you seen anything big that we have, we have already read that we need or. Yes. There's one
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very big thing in here as part of the accusation that directly relates to this program and, and
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specifically today's radio program, because when they're talking about the circumstances leading
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up to the 25th of July presidential phone call, this is section four, they discuss, uh, a series
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of articles, which they find suspicious appearing in an online publication called the hill.
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The author of those stories is our guest in the third hour of the program. John Solomon.
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John Solomon is a, is not a conspiracy theorist. John Solomon is a well known award winning investigative
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journalist. He worked for the times. He worked for the Washington post. He now runs the associated
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press. He now runs the, um, uh, editorial section for the hill, but he's done the investigative
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reporting on this. And he has been on this for years, years. This is not a Trump thing.
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Now what they're accusing, what they're basically saying in this, uh, complaint is to say, Trump asks
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for this favor. Hey, look into Biden. Um, there's a bunch of backroom dealings between them. The threat
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of withholding funds may or may not have occurred, blah, blah, blah. And one of the ways Ukraine is,
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um, helping, uh, Donald Trump and trying to win his favor is by people in the Ukrainian government
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leaking information to essentially John Solomon at the hill. This is ridiculous. This is a ridiculous,
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ridiculous charge. John Solomon has been working on this story literally for years. He has, we have
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worked with him on this story. We, we know him. We know how it works. We know who is also helping him
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with it. We don't know all of his sources, but we also know how hard it has been to get anybody in
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Ukraine to actually help him and speak. Especially when, uh, when Obama was in office. Okay. So let's
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go through. Um, the president asked, pressured Mr. Zelensky to initiate or continue an investigation
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into the activities of the former vice president, Joseph Biden and his son Hunter Biden. Now you'll
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notice that these are flipped because that's not the first thing he did in the phone call. He did
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what is bullet point. Number two asked them to assist purportedly uncovering the allegations of
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Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election that originated in Ukraine with specific
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requests that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the democratic national
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committee and examined by U S cyber security from crowd strike, which initially reported that
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Russian hackers had penetrated the DNC's network in 2016. So let me ask, we have our, we have our
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foreign affairs and military expert here, uh, for military intelligence, Jason patrol and Jason,
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let me see if I have this right. Is he asking to find out, uh, find where these things are and who is
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involved in helping Russia hack, uh, the DNC servers? Or is he saying here, Hey, uh, I want those DNC servers.
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I want to see what's on those DNC servers. Can you help me find those? It sounds like, so I think
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this ties directly into what Stu was just talking about with that. That's the section actually I'm
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like scrutinizing the most right now in this report is where he's referencing that Solomon article in
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the Hill. All of these like cases, all of these instances that are bulleted out, uh, they're all kind of
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connected. So they're all kind of, uh, centering around corruption, but they're all, they, they,
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they, they involve multiple different officials, not just, uh, Joe Biden, his son. So the crowd
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strike stuff is involved. And I think he was just looking, it sounded to me crowd strike. So,
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so if anybody doesn't know, this is a U S firm, um, called crowd strike, explain what they did.
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They assisted in identifying who was involved with hacking the DNC. So before they even knew,
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you know, how the heck this stuff got put on, you know, DC leaks.com or whatever,
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they went into look and actually do the forensics, uh, the computer forensics to find out who was
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involved. And they were the ones that were very pivotal and, and helping to identify that it was
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Russian intelligence. So crowd strike looked into that. They were like, okay, the Russians are involved.
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We, uh, uh, U S intelligence officials came to the same conclusion. Um, and then they also continued
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their work and crowd strike strike found out, and this was not in the, in his report, but they also
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found out that the Russians were involved in hacking, uh, the actual Ukrainian military. Correct. So
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there was a, there was a lot involved. So Stu, would you go back and find in yesterday's actual
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transcript, what the president was asking for? Because I think this is different than what he's saying
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here in this memo. And let's start with the transcript from yesterday, where he talks about
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crowd strike and what he was asking for. The best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Hey, it's Glenn. And you're listening to the Glenn Beck program. If you like what you're hearing on
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this show, make sure you check out Pat Gray unleashed. It's available wherever you download
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your favorite podcasts from behind my cardboard microphone. Yes, I'm not a doctor, but I,
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oh no, wait a minute. Yes, I am. It's the Glenn Beck program. And we're going over the select
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committee on intelligence report from the whistleblower. Uh, and we found some interesting
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things. Stu, can you, can you just kind of cover what we've already covered in a condensed form?
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Yes, I think I can. Okay. Um, going through the timeline is, is a little difficult. We talked a
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little bit about this last, uh, time, uh, last hour. The accusation from the whistleblower essentially
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revolves around a few things. Uh, this call that we all talked about yesterday where Trump, uh, you know,
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talks to him about Biden, talks to the president of Ukraine about, um, crowd strike and these big
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issues related to the election. That is part of the accusation. Again, this person, uh, says that
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they were not a direct witness to basically any of these events. Okay. So it's important to know.
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It's all secondhand information from this person. So to us, it's third and fourth hand. So she or he
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goes through this. Why do you think it's a she? Why should she or he? Well, no, you've been saying
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she all morning. She, she, they, them? No, you've been saying she all morning. I don't want to assign
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a gender. I know, but I just don't know if you knew something that I didn't know because you keep
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saying she and then you don't bait yourself. Don't bait me. All right. So, so basically that this person
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is accusing, uh, there being a problem there. Okay. They go on to say one of the big issues
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that is an indicator here is that they slid these transcripts over to a much highly, much more highly
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secured computer system. One that would not normally hold such transcripts. So the transcript that we got
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yesterday, the phone call, they say there's nothing, there was nothing secret about this.
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Why is it top, top secret again? Yeah. And this is their case. Yeah. Why did they move? Why did the
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White House move this transcript? Uh, and actually the actual digital recording over to a super secure
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top secret, which is not usually done for something that would just contain this kind of language.
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Right. And so the accusation is they knew there was a problem in this call and therefore they did this
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to hide it from people. And we can get into the, uh, alternate explanation to that here in a,
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in a second, which I think when you lay out the whole case fits pretty well as to why they would
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do this. But this is the accusation. We're just going through the accusations here.
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Now we are going on the assumption of a couple of things. One, we're not going to assign motive.
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However, we will look at past actions and, uh, take that into account and no one is guilty. You have
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to prove them guilty. We will assume that both the DNC and Donald Trump are innocent, but we're trying
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to figure out a couple of things. One, this is not a smoking gun. If you make this about Joe Biden
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and you make this about this phone call, this is not a smoking gun. So why after all this time of
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never going for impeachment, why did people suddenly flip without any information? And they immediately
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went impeachment. He's got to be removed. They've made this the battle, right? And it wouldn't work out
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to their advantage. So what is it? Are they just really crusaders or is there something else going
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on? Well, we've kind of stumbled into something in this reading of this memo. This is not about Joe
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Biden. This memo has very little to do with Joe Biden and his son. I believe that's the cake and the
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circus for the masses. That's what's, that's what has been given to the media because the media can
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understand Trump bad, Joe Biden good. Okay. And so they're giving that to the masses, but that's not the
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show that's really happening. That is misdirection because as you look in this, it has very little to do with
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Joe Biden. The case that Trump seems to be making in this. And the reason why I think he has attorney
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bar on all of this. Yeah. Okay. Well, you got to talk to our attorney general. You can only say that if
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Donald Trump needs to be impeached, then our attorney general is in on it from the start. And that may be,
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I don't think so, but that may be, or is it that Donald Trump has a theory that is pretty sound
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and he's investigating it because he didn't trust anyone, but he trusts attorney bar. So you have
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attorney general bar going and shadowing with Rudy Giuliani. And what is it that they're looking for?
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We're going to lay this all out for you here in just a few minutes and I'll answer all those
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questions, but I want to get back into this memo. So you have all of it. Uh, we left it at the
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transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle
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classified information of an especially sensitive nature. One white house official described this act
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as an abuse of this electronic system because the call did not contain anything remotely sensitive
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from a national security perspective or did it? I do not know whether similar messages or measures
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were taken to restrict access to other records of the call, such as contemporaneous handwritten notes
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by those who were listening in three ongoing concerns. This is the whistleblower on 26 July day after the
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call, U S special representative for Ukraine negotiations, Kurt Volker visited Kyiv. And by the way,
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we should explain, explain Kyiv. Kyiv is what we've always grown up saying, but that is because that
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was the Soviet name and the people in Ukraine actually find that offensive. The, the name is
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not pronounced Kyiv. That was the Soviet translation and the Soviet renaming and kind of a, just a dig and
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a little salt in the wound for Ukraine. The same way that they say the Ukraine. Yeah. We've all,
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we're all used to that. It's supposed to be just Ukraine. It is a sovereign nation. So you'll notice
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U S diplomats. You notice Biden in the video saying Kyiv because it's seen as a measure of respect for
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Ukraine as a sovereign nation. And I keep saying, I got Kyiv. I keep saying the Ukraine and it's not,
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they're both habits. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Um, 26 July day after the call, U S special representative
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Ukraine negotiations, Kurt Volker visit Kyiv and met with president Zelensky and a variety of
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Ukrainian political figures. Ambassador Volker was accompanied in his meetings by U S ambassador to
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the European union, Gordon Sonderland based on multiple readouts of these meetings recounted to
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me by various U S officials, ambassadors Volker and, uh, Sondland reportedly provided advice to the
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Ukrainian leadership on how to navigate the demands that the president had made of Mr. Zelensky.
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I also learned from multiple U S officials that on or about 2nd of August, Mr. Giuliani reported
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he traveled to Madrid to meet with one of president Zelensky's advisors. The U S officials
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characterized this meeting, which was not recorded publicly at the time as a direct follow-up to the
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president's call with Mr. Zelensky about the cases they had discussed separately, multiple U S officials
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told me that Mr. Giuliani had reported privately reaching out to a variety of other Zelensky advisors,
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including chief of staff and acting chairman of the security service of Ukraine. I don't know
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whether those officials met or spoke with Mr. Giuliani, but I was told separately by multiple U S
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officials that Mr. Yermak and Mr. Bakunov intended to travel to Washington in mid August. On August 9th,
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the president told reporters, I think president Zelensky is going to make a deal with president
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Putin and he'll be invited to the white house. And we look forward to seeing him. He's already been
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invited to the white house and he wants to come. And I think he will. He's a very reasonable guy.
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He wants to see peace in Ukraine. And I think he'll see it coming very soon, actually. End quote.
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So what is all of this about? If you remember in the phone call, Mr. Zelensky asked for Rudy Giuliani
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to come. Can you brief me on these things? Can you help us? And, and Zelensky was already aware of
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all of the corruption that Mr. Trump was talking about. Now the circumstances leading up to the July
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25th presidential phone call, according to the whistleblower, we're reading the transcript,
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uh, as it was given to, uh, the house and the Senate earlier this morning, beginning in late
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2019, a series of articles appeared on an online publication called the Hill. These articles,
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several Ukrainian officials, most notably prosecutor general Yuri Lusenko made a series of allegations
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against other Ukrainian officials and current and former U.S. officials. Mr. Lusenko and his
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colleagues alleged, according to John Solomon at the Hill, who, by the way, is coming up in about 40
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minutes, to the very best of my knowledge. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Uh, I'm on the wrong page. That was
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four. So I got to go to five now. Hang on. Let me pay. All right. Now, Mr. Lusenko from Ukrainian,
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uh, the Ukrainian government, uh, alleged that the Ukrainians, uh, possessed evidence that Ukrainian
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officials, namely head of national anti-corruption bureau of Ukraine and member of parliamentary,
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uh, Sir he Lusenko had interfered in the 2016 U S presidential election, allegedly in collaboration
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with the DNC and the U S embassy in Kyiv. That's quite a charge. The U S embassy in Kyiv,
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specifically U S ambassador Marine, uh, Marie Yovanovitch, who had criticized Mr. Lusenko's,
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uh, organization for its poor record in fighting corruption, had allegedly obstructed Ukrainian law
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enforcement agencies, pursuit of corruption cases, including by providing a do not prosecute
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list and had Ukrainian prosecutors banned from traveling to the United States, expressly to
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prevent them from delivering their evidence about the 2016 U S elections. Also that former vice
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president Biden had pressured former Ukrainian president, Petro Poroshenko in 2016 to fire the
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Ukrainian prosecutor general, uh, Victor Shorkin in order to quash a purported criminal probe into
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Burisma holdings, a Ukrainian energy company on whose board, the former vice president's son,
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Hunter sat. Now what's interesting about this is this is what Trump is operating on. This is the part that
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the media will never tell you about. They'll say he was just after Joe Biden. He was asking for a favor.
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He pressured. No, no. The counter charge, the other side of this is that the DNC working with the former
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government that thought they would be in power forever. The Democrats had apps. Nobody had any idea
00:29:53.880
that that government was going to be overturned by a comedy talk show host. Okay. Remember, this is the guy
00:30:02.940
who's like the John Stewart of Ukraine. He's the guy the president was talking to. And the reason why he won,
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he never did any debates. He never did anything. He never stated policy. He just said, this is all insane.
00:30:17.940
And we're corrupt and it's got to stop. Nobody would have thought he won. So they, the Democrats,
00:30:26.700
if this is true, the Democrats thought they have all of the hatches closed. There's no water going to
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be, but leaking out of this. We're all fine. The, the allegation is from Luchenko was that the government
00:30:42.220
at the highest levels in collusion with our U S ambassador appointed by, uh, appointed by Obama,
00:30:51.740
right? Uh, was they were all working together. The DNC had come over and said, Hey, we need some dirt
00:31:01.560
on Donald Trump. And the, the Ukrainian government working through oligarchs went to Russia and helped
00:31:11.940
gather information. Then when the 2016, uh, Russian investigation was happening, they were firing
00:31:21.160
and, uh, bribing everybody to shut up. And the ambassador was stopping people to come to the
00:31:28.380
United States to say, Hey, this is what's really going on. That's what Trump is asking for. And Trump
00:31:36.400
is asking for the Russian hacked servers, because what's on their servers, what's on their servers?
00:31:45.020
Did any of them, were they saying, Hey, can you find out some information on Donald Trump?
00:31:50.520
Now he's not doing this just with Rudy Giuliani. He's doing this with the attorney general.
00:31:57.560
And the attorney general denies, we should point out the attorney general says that there was bar,
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bar says he was not involved in this, at least as to the, to the extent of in any, like what,
00:32:10.120
what happened in the call, right? So, Oh yeah. Yeah. He's saying that because in the call,
00:32:15.140
Trump says, I want you to talk to bar. I want you to talk to Giuliani. Bar says he did not have
00:32:19.680
those conversations. And Giuliani has publicly admitted he has had them. Right. But just to be
00:32:24.840
clear to give bar, he may not, he may not have had those conversations, but it may not have risen to
00:32:29.820
his level. Who knows? We don't know where, where, uh, I'd be interested to see if bar knew about any
00:32:36.580
of this. But what you just laid out explains perfectly in my mind about the thing that Stu,
00:32:43.540
you brought up with the, uh, with this, the computer system, with the conversation in the
00:32:47.800
white house being transferred over into that classified, you know, uh, server record. Right.
00:32:52.760
This is one of the things that they say is a piece of evidence that shows they were trying to
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hide it. And I think it can be just as easily interpreted the other way. Yeah. Well, I mean,
00:33:01.260
if you think about, I mean, as is, if you look at that conversation, just the mere fact that he
00:33:07.200
mentioned Biden and that scandal does not constitute who cares. Like, even if that got out,
00:33:12.780
it might look bad, but it's not going to sure. It's not going to warrant them putting a classification
00:33:18.200
on this and throwing it over there. But if everything you're looking into, if all of the,
00:33:22.780
if what, if what you Glenn just laid out is, is accurate, then you don't want the Obama
00:33:28.020
holdovers in the white house getting wind of that. You don't want intelligence knowing
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about that. Especially thinking about it from Trump's perspective. He's very suspicious of
00:33:36.860
intelligence. He's had bad experiences with them. But what he's alleging here is, and we
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have evidence to back up that things like this have happened, uh, that what he's alleging is
00:33:49.960
that Obama and the DNC worked with the intelligence agency and the, uh, the government of Ukraine
00:34:00.500
to try to dig up dirt on Donald Trump to stop his campaign. Well, if I'm having conversations
00:34:08.920
about, you know, making sure I do not want the intelligence community, I do not want the DNC,
00:34:15.100
the Obama holdovers. I don't want anyone knowing about it, but I do want a trail of it someplace.
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Don't delete it. This reminded me of a... Hang on. Back in just a second.
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Hey, it's Glenn. And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray
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us now, Congressman from Utah, Chris Stewart. How are you, sir? Glenn, it's good to be with you.
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You're the only guy I'd walk out of the hearing for. I think you're foolish for doing it. You have
00:35:02.460
a front row seat, literally a front row seat. Tell me what you think this is really, what's really
00:35:08.480
going on here? Well, it's nothing that we haven't seen for three years. Uh, and that's just not
00:35:13.820
shocking. It shouldn't surprise anyone. This is a concerted effort by Democrats to, uh, to repeal and
00:35:19.880
rescind the 2016 election. It's what they've been doing since the very day Donald Trump was
00:35:24.840
elected. And Glenn, it's, it's not going to be successful. There's just nothing here that is
00:35:29.880
impeachable. And if I could make this point, I think it's a fair point. I'm not here to protect
00:35:35.160
the president. I'm not here to protect anyone. We just want to know the facts, but the facts just
00:35:39.140
don't bear this out. Unlike in previous impeachments. I mean, with Richard Nixon, the American people
00:35:43.740
understood that that was wrong. There was a break-in. There was a cover-up. There was, uh, there was
00:35:48.020
obstruction of justice with Bill Clinton. The American people knew that it was wrong for him
00:35:52.460
to be with an intern and it was wrong for him to lie to a grand jury. And what in the world are
00:35:57.460
you going to commit? How, how in the world do you convince the American people that there's an
00:36:01.240
impeachable offense here because he asked a foreign leader to investigate what he thought was corruption?
00:36:07.500
And I think most Americans look, look at that and listen around and go, why in the world should we
00:36:11.880
remove him from office for that? Yeah. And you know, Chris, as I read this, cause I read this this
00:36:17.620
morning and you had access to it yesterday. As I was reading this this morning, I don't think this
00:36:23.520
is about Joe Biden. This is really all about the Russia investigation. What was going on? Um, you know,
00:36:32.220
when Obama was in, in office, were the Democrats using the Ukrainians to, uh, look for dirt on Donald
00:36:41.960
Trump and you know, that, that, that crowd strike server thing is disturbing. If you look at it from
00:36:49.220
a different point of view, then you all of a sudden go, wait a minute, that would explain why he would
00:36:55.060
take this transcript and put it into an encrypted form that no one can get to unless subpoenaed by,
00:37:02.240
uh, by the Congress. No one can get into this because he's showing, I think he's trying to make
00:37:09.700
the case of a deep state. Am I wrong? I think there's no, I think there's much more that we
00:37:16.720
got to learn there. And you know what, with the crowd strike, there's just so much to this that
00:37:20.640
many people are overwhelmed by it. But the essence of that is just exactly as you've described it.
00:37:25.380
And by the way, this, this thing too, about whether this document was stored in a, in a
00:37:30.280
highly classified, uh, server. Um, we have no idea whether that's standard for, uh, conversations
00:37:36.620
between the head of state and it certainly isn't criminal and it may not be outside of the norm
00:37:41.100
at all. So I mean, some people are trying to make a big deal of that as if that's part of the cover
00:37:45.760
up, but, but a, again, we have no idea if that's not standard and B, it doesn't mean anything anyway.
00:37:51.860
So Ben Sass, uh, I mean, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer said exactly what I would expect them to say.
00:37:58.060
And that is, Oh, this is very disturbing. I read this and it's very, and so I, I read this today
00:38:04.840
with an open mind thinking, okay, I'm going to find something disturbing. I haven't found it. Uh,
00:38:10.340
except I think I found a reason where all of it makes sense on what Trump is doing, um, and what
00:38:17.000
they're accusing him and why they flip so hard and made this their, their key to destroy him finally.
00:38:24.080
Um, but I, I, what did Ben Sass, do you have any idea? Did you see anything in here? Because Ben Sass said,
00:38:30.620
look, there's some things in here that I think we need, uh, answers to questions on and, you know,
00:38:35.940
you shouldn't circle the wagons. And I agree with all of that. I'm not here to protect the president.
00:38:40.980
Um, I, I want the truth. Um, but is there anything in here that stuck out to you?
00:38:48.980
Well, I mean, I, I went into this with a little, a little bit of anxiety. You'd never know what to
00:38:53.540
expect. And in this world, heaven's sakes, you never know what to expect. Right. Right. And I was
00:38:58.360
fearful that there might be something to this. I'm surprised to this. Uh, but, and I read it
00:39:03.760
carefully. I read it two or three times. I took notes. And at the end of this, which was late
00:39:08.400
yesterday afternoon, uh, be honest with you, Glenn, I was much more confident that this president was
00:39:13.880
not going to be impeached than I was before I read the document. Once again, I said, is this it?
00:39:20.840
I mean, is that really all there is to this? Uh, uh, and I think again, you look, it doesn't matter
00:39:26.440
if you get to 217 votes in the house, you have to convince the American people and the American
00:39:32.540
people have to have had a consensus among them that this president has committed high crimes and
00:39:38.340
misdemeanors and he should be removed from office. And I don't think there's a chance in the world
00:39:43.520
that this document convinces the American people of that. And you talk about, uh, Nancy Pelosi and
00:39:49.400
Chuck Schumer being disturbed, but Glenn, they've been disturbed for three years.
00:39:52.640
Yeah, but here's the thing. This is the part that doesn't fit, Chris, that Nancy Pelosi has been
00:39:58.280
against this. This makes no sense. She's been against this the whole time. Why all of a sudden
00:40:04.960
with nothing does she say, this is it got to strike while the iron is hot. The iron isn't hot. The
00:40:11.380
American people, even Democrats are not for impeachment. Yeah. You know what, Glenn? I think
00:40:16.720
there's a actually fairly simple explanation for that. And it's, and that's two elements to it. Number
00:40:21.120
one is, and this is just obvious and you know this, and that is that she just finally reached a point
00:40:26.860
with, with her own, uh, her own party, her own caucus, that she couldn't do nothing. And I think
00:40:33.760
the genesis was that with those seven moderates, uh, who represent, you know, moderate districts and
00:40:39.100
in the past have been kind of a buffer for her. When they wrote that, uh, that editorial over the
00:40:44.080
weekend, I think she felt like she had to respond to this. But at the same time, the second element to
00:40:48.320
this is this, she's not serious about this effort. If she was serious about an impeachment inquiry,
00:40:54.120
that requires a vote on the house floor. She has to put her members on record of saying, yes,
00:40:59.620
we are seeking impeachment. And she hasn't done that. She's trying to split the baby. She's saying,
00:41:05.060
yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to start an impeachment inquiry and we're going to do it by
00:41:08.460
doing the same thing we've been doing for the last, you know, nine months. And that's the committee's
00:41:12.600
doing the same, same thing. She's not serious about this inquiry or she would have the vote and compel her
00:41:17.980
members to say, yes, I want to proceed. And she hasn't done that. All right. Um, the guy who you
00:41:23.720
just questioned, he is the director of national intelligence. He's the guy who stopped the memo
00:41:30.900
from coming out and be given to Congress. They're saying that this is unprecedented. No whistleblower
00:41:37.240
has ever been kept in the history of our country from Congress. Is that true? What do you make of,
00:41:43.880
of this and his testimony? Yeah, it's true, but there's a reason for that. And that is,
00:41:51.140
we've never had a whistleblower complaint that was an accusation against the president of the United
00:41:56.360
States. And so then you have, uh, elements of executive privilege. And the second thing that
00:42:01.880
he had to consider, the law compelled him to consider is, was this outside of the jurisdiction
00:42:07.620
of the director of intelligence, which it was. And look, Mr. McGuire, as I was adamant in my
00:42:13.300
defense of him, this is a man of clear integrity. He found a deficiency and ambiguity in the law and
00:42:19.120
did not know what to do. He wasn't trying to obstruct. He wasn't trying to protect the lighthouse. He
00:42:23.820
simply didn't know what legally he could do in this, in this situation. And I think he did the only
00:42:28.820
thing that he could do. You go to the office of legal counsel and you seek their advice. That's what
00:42:33.100
they're there for. But to create this narrative of my democratic colleagues and they attacked his
00:42:38.020
integrity so often and so, and so repeatedly as if he's the problem. And then I said to them,
00:42:43.940
if you think you're going to win on this by trying to convince the American people that this is a
00:42:47.560
political stooge sitting before us, good luck on that. Because if anyone watches this hearing for
00:42:52.580
even a few minutes, it's very clear. This is a military officer who has served his nation for 36 years.
00:42:58.940
He's not here for political ambitions. He's here to serve his country. And that's what he was
00:43:03.080
trying to do. So it's, it's a, it was a threat to the national security, according to this
00:43:11.640
whistleblower. It's a threat to the presidency itself and the country. Who does it? What should
00:43:20.740
he have done? You say, well, it wasn't in his jurisdiction. So can't he pass that to somebody's
00:43:26.760
jurisdiction or, you know, I, I, he said, he was asked, well, did people investigate this? And they
00:43:33.380
did. What did they find? Or why did it not go to someone else?
00:43:39.100
Well, and, and it gets a little bit complicated, Glenn, and I don't want to, I don't want to bore
00:43:43.700
you with some of the technical legalities, but I mean, what it comes down to is this, at what point,
00:43:49.920
and it's not whether he had to, I mean, the objection of my democratic colleagues is that
00:43:54.460
he didn't do it immediately, but he had a 14 day window where he could seek legal counsel and make
00:43:59.000
a decision. And, and it's apparent that again, he and the inspector general were in the disagreement
00:44:05.300
and a bit of a loggerheads. And I think that we have to realize that, as I said, the law is deficient
00:44:09.960
on this and we need to address the law. But, but I mean, this information as a member of Congress,
00:44:16.380
it's, and I've made this clear repeatedly over the years, my job and the thing that I protect is
00:44:22.400
allowing Congress to provide its oversight, allowing Congress to have access to this information. And
00:44:28.200
I've always said this should come to Congress, but I recognize in this case, there was a complicated
00:44:33.340
legal process before it could come to Congress. And that's all, that's what he was trying to comply
00:44:38.620
with. And it seems to me that it only added fuel to the fire. Um, you know, because they, you know,
00:44:45.880
everybody knows they try to play off the Nixon thing. It's the coverup that got you in trouble.
00:44:49.740
Yeah. Uh, and, uh, you know, if it's a legal process and this guy is, is honorable, I mean,
00:44:56.100
what are you going to do about it? Um, it just goes into just make more smoke, Chris, I appreciate
00:45:01.980
it. Good to talk to you. Thank you. Uh, representative Chris Stewart, uh, Republican
00:45:08.280
from, uh, Utah. I mean, legitimately right out of the hearing, like you'll see him go, but he's
00:45:14.320
going to walk back into the hearing room in a second. We'll see him on C-SPAN walking back in.
00:45:19.000
He just finished questioning. You're not going to get better, quicker insight from a real player in
00:45:24.140
the story than that. And we should mention to John Solomon, who was supposed to be on here. Um,
00:45:29.500
if you were looking for that interview, he had to reschedule till tomorrow. Um, had, had apparently
00:45:34.480
he said a meeting with a source, um, just come up, had just come up. So he's rescheduled till
00:45:40.280
tomorrow. He was the guy who is not by name, but his work is mentioned in the whistleblower report
00:45:47.500
extensively, extensively. And so he's going to come on and tell us what that is like to go through
00:45:52.720
on tomorrow's program at this time. And in one minute, I want to come back and I'm going to give
00:45:56.820
you the timeline. Stu will take you through the timeline of this whistleblower report because it's
00:46:02.800
all out of order. So it's kind of hard to figure out, but he's taking the time and put it all in
00:46:08.400
order so you can understand it. And we'll get to that also on today's television program. Uh,
00:46:15.080
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00:46:19.860
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00:46:26.800
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00:46:31.980
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00:46:40.460
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00:46:53.740
Uh, there is something happening as I'm going to outline to you, uh, tomorrow, whatever changed
00:47:04.260
last week, we clearly still have a very big problem. They are still, the Fed is still bailing out the
00:47:14.640
banks to the tune of 100 billion. I'm sorry, $160 billion a day. Why? What happened? No one is
00:47:29.000
answering this question and it's gone from 50 billion to now they announced yesterday, $160
00:47:36.740
billion every day. At least they can tell us though, which banks, uh, we're borrowing. No,
00:47:43.400
the money, right? No, the Fed doesn't even know who they're borrowing, who's borrowing the money.
00:47:47.540
That's insanity. That's one of the most fascinating parts. It's legitimately an anonymous borrowing
00:47:51.860
system. It is. That is something I need to get involved in. Yeah. You ain't kidding. I don't know
00:47:56.140
what you're talking about. I didn't borrow that 10 bill. All right. There's an tomorrow I'll get into
00:47:59.980
this, uh, cause we have to, uh, there's something wrong and it's, and it's going to affect the entire
00:48:06.380
world. I think this, if this whistleblower complaint is what I think it is, buckle up 2020 is going to be
00:48:15.500
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