The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Rep. Chris Stewart ｜ 9⧸26⧸19

00:00:00.000 Hey, podcasters, it's Thursday and a great podcast for you to listen to today to really gain

00:00:06.020 perspective. Right before we went on the air and started recording the podcast, we got the

00:00:11.760 raw data from the whistleblower. And so we just went through it. And that's what this podcast is

00:00:18.200 about just going line by line. And we stumbled into some things that I don't think you're going

00:00:23.280 to hear anywhere else. This is not about Joe Biden. And this really isn't about Donald Trump.

00:00:29.320 It's what Donald Trump is trying to expose. You'll understand why Nancy Pelosi was so adamant that we

00:00:36.520 have to impeach him. This is a battle of titans. And you'll understand it and totally new perspective

00:00:42.720 just by listening to today's podcast.

00:00:52.100 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:00:59.320 To the Honorable Richard Burr, Chairman, Select Committee on Intelligence, United States Senate,

00:01:07.020 and the Honorable Adam Schiff, Chairman, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, House of

00:01:12.620 Representatives. Dear Chairman Burr and Chairman Schiff, I am reporting this is the whistleblower now.

00:01:18.480 This is August 12th, 2019. I am reporting an urgent concern in accordance with the procedures

00:01:25.380 outlined in 50 USC, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This letter is unclassified when separated from

00:01:32.040 the attachment. In the course of my official duties, I have received information from multiple US

00:01:38.240 government officials that the president of the United States is using his power of his office

00:01:42.240 to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 US elections.

00:01:49.040 Wow, that's quite a charge. The interference includes, among other things, pressuring a foreign 0.83

00:01:54.480 country to investigate one of the president's main domestic political rivals. The president's personal

00:02:01.080 lawyer, Rudolph Giuliani, is central figure in this effort. Attorney General Barr appears to be involved

00:02:07.640 as well. Okay, so I want to set this out from the outset. In the course of my official duties,

00:02:15.320 I have received information from multiple US government officials. So in other words,

00:02:22.200 what he's about to present, he has no firsthand knowledge of. But even if he did, what he's saying,

00:02:31.120 I don't know if there's a problem. He said over the past four months, more than half a dozen US

00:02:36.740 officials have informed me of various facts related to this effort. The information provided herein

00:02:42.720 was relayed to me in the course of official interagency business. It is routine for US

00:02:48.780 officials with responsibility for a particular regional or functional portfolio to share such

00:02:54.440 information with one another in order to inform policymaking and analysis. So in other words,

00:03:00.500 I want you to know we're not doing anything weird here. I was not a direct witness to most of the

00:03:07.300 events described. Let me read that again. I was not a direct witness to most of the events described.

00:03:13.040 However, I found my colleagues accounts of these events to be credible because in almost all cases,

00:03:19.960 multiple officials recounted a fact pattern that was consistent with one another. In addition,

00:03:26.960 a variety of information, a variety of information consistent with these private accounts has been

00:03:31.240 reported publicly. Now, let me tell you something. First of all, we'll let you decide whether there's

00:03:38.260 anything in this. But I just, I want you to know, I really truly believe we would have read this

00:03:44.640 document differently had the press and the intelligence community not spent the last three and a half to

00:03:52.360 four years trying to take this president down on everything. This used to mean something when you'd have a so-called

00:04:01.640 whistleblower. But does anybody trust the press, the intelligence community, the DOJ, any of it?

00:04:12.520 They have so discredited themselves that you don't know what's real and what's not.

00:04:18.800 He says, I am deeply concerned that the actions described below constitute a serious or

00:04:26.940 flagrant problem, abuse, or violation of law or executive order that does not include differences

00:04:35.080 of opinions concerning public policy matters. It is consistent with the definition of an urgent

00:04:41.620 concern in U.S. C 50, blah, blah, blah. I am therefore fulfilling my duty to report this information

00:04:48.220 through proper legal channels to the relevant authorities. I am also concerned that these

00:04:54.480 actions pose risk to the U.S. national security and undermine the U.S. government's efforts to deter

00:05:01.560 and counter foreign interference in U.S. elections. To the best of my knowledge, the entirety of this

00:05:10.180 statement is unclassified when separated from the classified enclosure. Stu, do we have the classified

00:05:16.240 enclosure? There is a classified appendix which is attached to it. Okay, it's only a little bit of

00:05:22.120 black boxes, right? Yeah, there's yes. I have endeavored to apply the classification standards

00:05:28.780 outlined in Executive Order 13-526 and to separate out information that I know or have reason to believe

00:05:35.860 is classified for national security purposes. If a classification marking is applied retroactively,

00:05:42.800 I believe it is incumbent upon the classifying authority to explain why such a marking was applied

00:05:48.620 and to which specific information it pertains. So here's his case. One, the 25th July presidential

00:05:57.420 phone call. Now remember, we went over this yesterday. And because you may have missed yesterday's show and

00:06:05.640 maybe really only heard the reporting with ellipses, the media in newspaper, online, on television, on all fronts

00:06:18.960 used an ellipse three, you know, dot, dot, dot, use the ellipse to to skip over five, about 540 words.

00:06:29.920 Now, I've never seen that done before, but they removed almost an entire page between I have a favor to ask

00:06:41.060 and could you look into Joe Biden? What those ellipses took out was the president looking to say to the

00:06:53.440 the president of the Ukraine. I, I, I need you to understand, we think you're surrounded by some of the bad guys

00:07:00.580 that hacked into the DNC servers. That server is still lost. We need to know where that server is.

00:07:07.500 We think one of the oligarchs maybe in your circle has it or knows where it is. We need to know that because we've been

00:07:17.500 doing this investigation with Robert Mueller and he's got nothing. He's been looking into me. He should be

00:07:26.400 looking into Russia and that those Russian oligarchs have infiltrated your oligarchs and we think they're 0.50

00:07:35.120 working together. Now that is national security. That's doing what the Congress and everybody else

00:07:42.720 should have been doing, but they didn't. So here's how they described the phone call in this

00:07:49.860 whistleblowers report. Early in the morning of July 25, the president spoke by telephone with the

00:07:56.400 Ukrainian president Zelensky. I do not know which side initiated the call, but this was the first

00:08:03.280 publicly acknowledged call between the two leaders since a brief congratulatory call after Mr. Zelensky won

00:08:09.020 the presidency on April 21st. Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call

00:08:15.560 informed me that after the initial exchange of pleasantries, the president used the remainder of

00:08:21.900 the call to advance his personal interests. Stu, fact check.

00:08:30.160 That's that the personal interest. I mean, after they had a exchange of pleasantries, the president

00:08:36.900 used the remainder of the call to advance his personal interests. I mean, it certainly wasn't

00:08:41.460 the remainder of the call. There was other things discussed as well. And you could certainly,

00:08:45.500 if you want to take the worst reading of Trump's words, that they were only about his own personal

00:08:52.160 interest, then you could say that to some degree. However, his personal interests seemingly align with

00:08:58.620 a national interest in that if we had a vice president of the United States participating in

00:09:04.780 corruption related to favoring his child and also a bunch of money over a billion dollars disappearing,

00:09:12.700 that would be of the national interest of the United States. Sure would be. But beyond that,

00:09:16.380 you know, it wasn't in his personal interest because he said, I need you to look into apparently

00:09:20.840 they call it crowd strike. He didn't even understand what he was talking about. It did seem like he was

00:09:27.660 reading notes about what he was supposed to say. He was briefed on here's what you need to tell them

00:09:34.940 to further the Russian investigation. That's a pretty big thing just to overlook because that

00:09:44.140 was the main thrust of the call. And if you watched again, you know, mainstream news last night,

00:09:50.940 the way you understood everything we're talking about right now is dot dot dot. And yes, they didn't cover

00:09:57.640 this. They just said, I want you to do me a favor. Can you look into Joe Biden and his son?

00:10:03.100 Incredible. We have some audio of them doing this, so we should play at some point today. Yeah. Okay.

00:10:07.460 Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge informed me, namely, he sought to pressure Ukrainian

00:10:12.520 leader to take actions to help the president 2020 reelection bid. That is untrue.

00:10:18.620 He mainly, listen to this, he mainly sought to pressure the Ukrainian leader to take actions

00:10:27.840 to help the president's 2020 reelection bid. He did not pressure him. First of all, he did not ask him

00:10:37.460 to take steps to help him in his reelection bid. Right. I mean, obviously, again, the worst reading of

00:10:43.740 it, you could say that, right? You could say he could use the word reciprocal. He, uh, he did ask

00:10:49.600 for things. And you could say, if you're the president of Ukraine, the president of the United

00:10:53.280 States is mentioning stuff. It goes to the top of your heap of, of, of things to do. Of course it

00:10:58.420 does. So you could, you could argue these things, but again, a lot of assumption here, but that was

00:11:02.260 not a legal case. Yeah. And that was not the first thing on the list. Right. The first thing on the

00:11:07.960 list was help us investigate and stop Russia from taking your military apart and interfering in our

00:11:15.920 elections. We need this information. Can you find this totally legitimate, totally legitimate.

00:11:22.960 Stu, have you seen anything big that we have, we have already read that we need or. Yes. There's one

00:11:30.300 very big thing in here as part of the accusation that directly relates to this program and, and

00:11:38.020 specifically today's radio program, because when they're talking about the circumstances leading

00:11:44.120 up to the 25th of July presidential phone call, this is section four, they discuss, uh, a series

00:11:52.240 of articles, which they find suspicious appearing in an online publication called the hill.

00:12:00.300 The author of those stories is our guest in the third hour of the program. John Solomon.

00:12:06.320 John Solomon is a, is not a conspiracy theorist. John Solomon is a well known award winning investigative

00:12:17.740 journalist. He worked for the times. He worked for the Washington post. He now runs the associated

00:12:25.300 press. He now runs the, um, uh, editorial section for the hill, but he's done the investigative

00:12:33.520 reporting on this. And he has been on this for years, years. This is not a Trump thing.

00:12:41.560 Now what they're accusing, what they're basically saying in this, uh, complaint is to say, Trump asks

00:12:48.760 for this favor. Hey, look into Biden. Um, there's a bunch of backroom dealings between them. The threat

00:12:55.420 of withholding funds may or may not have occurred, blah, blah, blah. And one of the ways Ukraine is, 0.61

00:13:02.520 um, helping, uh, Donald Trump and trying to win his favor is by people in the Ukrainian government

00:13:11.760 leaking information to essentially John Solomon at the hill. This is ridiculous. This is a ridiculous,

00:13:20.480 ridiculous charge. John Solomon has been working on this story literally for years. He has, we have

00:13:28.100 worked with him on this story. We, we know him. We know how it works. We know who is also helping him

00:13:37.060 with it. We don't know all of his sources, but we also know how hard it has been to get anybody in

00:13:43.220 Ukraine to actually help him and speak. Especially when, uh, when Obama was in office. Okay. So let's

00:13:54.980 go through. Um, the president asked, pressured Mr. Zelensky to initiate or continue an investigation

00:14:02.760 into the activities of the former vice president, Joseph Biden and his son Hunter Biden. Now you'll

00:14:08.220 notice that these are flipped because that's not the first thing he did in the phone call. He did

00:14:13.400 what is bullet point. Number two asked them to assist purportedly uncovering the allegations of

00:14:19.300 Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election that originated in Ukraine with specific

00:14:26.220 requests that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the democratic national

00:14:32.760 committee and examined by U S cyber security from crowd strike, which initially reported that

00:14:39.720 Russian hackers had penetrated the DNC's network in 2016. So let me ask, we have our, we have our

00:14:48.180 foreign affairs and military expert here, uh, for military intelligence, Jason patrol and Jason,

00:14:55.560 let me see if I have this right. Is he asking to find out, uh, find where these things are and who is

00:15:10.640 involved in helping Russia hack, uh, the DNC servers? Or is he saying here, Hey, uh, I want those DNC servers.

00:15:23.840 I want to see what's on those DNC servers. Can you help me find those? It sounds like, so I think

00:15:31.000 this ties directly into what Stu was just talking about with that. That's the section actually I'm

00:15:36.100 like scrutinizing the most right now in this report is where he's referencing that Solomon article in

00:15:41.100 the Hill. All of these like cases, all of these instances that are bulleted out, uh, they're all kind of

00:15:47.800 connected. So they're all kind of, uh, centering around corruption, but they're all, they, they,

00:15:52.520 they, they involve multiple different officials, not just, uh, Joe Biden, his son. So the crowd

00:15:58.920 strike stuff is involved. And I think he was just looking, it sounded to me crowd strike. So,

00:16:04.740 so if anybody doesn't know, this is a U S firm, um, called crowd strike, explain what they did.

00:16:10.880 They assisted in identifying who was involved with hacking the DNC. So before they even knew,

00:16:16.960 you know, how the heck this stuff got put on, you know, DC leaks.com or whatever,

00:16:21.160 they went into look and actually do the forensics, uh, the computer forensics to find out who was

00:16:25.220 involved. And they were the ones that were very pivotal and, and helping to identify that it was

00:16:29.800 Russian intelligence. So crowd strike looked into that. They were like, okay, the Russians are involved.

00:16:34.440 We, uh, uh, U S intelligence officials came to the same conclusion. Um, and then they also continued

00:16:40.840 their work and crowd strike strike found out, and this was not in the, in his report, but they also

00:16:45.500 found out that the Russians were involved in hacking, uh, the actual Ukrainian military. Correct. So 0.90

00:16:51.340 there was a, there was a lot involved. So Stu, would you go back and find in yesterday's actual

00:16:55.940 transcript, what the president was asking for? Because I think this is different than what he's saying

00:17:02.900 here in this memo. And let's start with the transcript from yesterday, where he talks about

00:17:08.800 crowd strike and what he was asking for. The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:17:22.980 Hey, it's Glenn. And you're listening to the Glenn Beck program. If you like what you're hearing on

00:17:27.120 this show, make sure you check out Pat Gray unleashed. It's available wherever you download

00:17:32.460 your favorite podcasts from behind my cardboard microphone. Yes, I'm not a doctor, but I,

00:17:39.500 oh no, wait a minute. Yes, I am. It's the Glenn Beck program. And we're going over the select

00:17:46.200 committee on intelligence report from the whistleblower. Uh, and we found some interesting

00:17:52.380 things. Stu, can you, can you just kind of cover what we've already covered in a condensed form?

00:17:58.420 Yes, I think I can. Okay. Um, going through the timeline is, is a little difficult. We talked a

00:18:03.640 little bit about this last, uh, time, uh, last hour. The accusation from the whistleblower essentially

00:18:12.340 revolves around a few things. Uh, this call that we all talked about yesterday where Trump, uh, you know,

00:18:17.460 talks to him about Biden, talks to the president of Ukraine about, um, crowd strike and these big

00:18:24.320 issues related to the election. That is part of the accusation. Again, this person, uh, says that

00:18:32.220 they were not a direct witness to basically any of these events. Okay. So it's important to know.

00:18:38.240 It's all secondhand information from this person. So to us, it's third and fourth hand. So she or he

00:18:47.020 goes through this. Why do you think it's a she? Why should she or he? Well, no, you've been saying 0.98

00:18:54.180 she all morning. She, she, they, them? No, you've been saying she all morning. I don't want to assign

00:18:58.320 a gender. I know, but I just don't know if you knew something that I didn't know because you keep

00:19:02.800 saying she and then you don't bait yourself. Don't bait me. All right. So, so basically that this person

00:19:10.920 is accusing, uh, there being a problem there. Okay. They go on to say one of the big issues

00:19:17.100 that is an indicator here is that they slid these transcripts over to a much highly, much more highly

00:19:26.720 secured computer system. One that would not normally hold such transcripts. So the transcript that we got

00:19:34.220 yesterday, the phone call, they say there's nothing, there was nothing secret about this.

00:19:38.720 Why is it top, top secret again? Yeah. And this is their case. Yeah. Why did they move? Why did the

00:19:46.040 White House move this transcript? Uh, and actually the actual digital recording over to a super secure

00:19:53.060 top secret, which is not usually done for something that would just contain this kind of language.

00:19:59.900 Right. And so the accusation is they knew there was a problem in this call and therefore they did this

00:20:05.420 to hide it from people. And we can get into the, uh, alternate explanation to that here in a,

00:20:10.440 in a second, which I think when you lay out the whole case fits pretty well as to why they would

00:20:14.840 do this. But this is the accusation. We're just going through the accusations here.

00:20:18.360 Now we are going on the assumption of a couple of things. One, we're not going to assign motive.

00:20:25.160 However, we will look at past actions and, uh, take that into account and no one is guilty. You have

00:20:34.820 to prove them guilty. We will assume that both the DNC and Donald Trump are innocent, but we're trying

00:20:42.580 to figure out a couple of things. One, this is not a smoking gun. If you make this about Joe Biden

00:20:50.900 and you make this about this phone call, this is not a smoking gun. So why after all this time of

00:21:00.920 never going for impeachment, why did people suddenly flip without any information? And they immediately

00:21:09.100 went impeachment. He's got to be removed. They've made this the battle, right? And it wouldn't work out

00:21:18.360 to their advantage. So what is it? Are they just really crusaders or is there something else going

00:21:26.240 on? Well, we've kind of stumbled into something in this reading of this memo. This is not about Joe

00:21:34.300 Biden. This memo has very little to do with Joe Biden and his son. I believe that's the cake and the

00:21:42.520 circus for the masses. That's what's, that's what has been given to the media because the media can

00:21:49.260 understand Trump bad, Joe Biden good. Okay. And so they're giving that to the masses, but that's not the

00:21:58.300 show that's really happening. That is misdirection because as you look in this, it has very little to do with

00:22:05.180 Joe Biden. The case that Trump seems to be making in this. And the reason why I think he has attorney

00:22:15.640 bar on all of this. Yeah. Okay. Well, you got to talk to our attorney general. You can only say that if

00:22:23.480 Donald Trump needs to be impeached, then our attorney general is in on it from the start. And that may be,

00:22:30.920 I don't think so, but that may be, or is it that Donald Trump has a theory that is pretty sound

00:22:41.000 and he's investigating it because he didn't trust anyone, but he trusts attorney bar. So you have

00:22:51.820 attorney general bar going and shadowing with Rudy Giuliani. And what is it that they're looking for?

00:22:59.640 We're going to lay this all out for you here in just a few minutes and I'll answer all those

00:23:05.660 questions, but I want to get back into this memo. So you have all of it. Uh, we left it at the

00:23:10.800 transcript was loaded into a separate electronic system that is otherwise used to store and handle

00:23:17.480 classified information of an especially sensitive nature. One white house official described this act

00:23:23.100 as an abuse of this electronic system because the call did not contain anything remotely sensitive

00:23:29.140 from a national security perspective or did it? I do not know whether similar messages or measures

00:23:37.800 were taken to restrict access to other records of the call, such as contemporaneous handwritten notes

00:23:43.340 by those who were listening in three ongoing concerns. This is the whistleblower on 26 July day after the

00:23:52.260 call, U S special representative for Ukraine negotiations, Kurt Volker visited Kyiv. And by the way,

00:23:58.540 we should explain, explain Kyiv. Kyiv is what we've always grown up saying, but that is because that

00:24:04.900 was the Soviet name and the people in Ukraine actually find that offensive. The, the name is

00:24:12.660 not pronounced Kyiv. That was the Soviet translation and the Soviet renaming and kind of a, just a dig and

00:24:20.560 a little salt in the wound for Ukraine. The same way that they say the Ukraine. Yeah. We've all,

00:24:25.780 we're all used to that. It's supposed to be just Ukraine. It is a sovereign nation. So you'll notice

00:24:30.860 U S diplomats. You notice Biden in the video saying Kyiv because it's seen as a measure of respect for

00:24:37.540 Ukraine as a sovereign nation. And I keep saying, I got Kyiv. I keep saying the Ukraine and it's not,

00:24:42.820 they're both habits. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Um, 26 July day after the call, U S special representative

00:24:49.080 Ukraine negotiations, Kurt Volker visit Kyiv and met with president Zelensky and a variety of

00:24:56.180 Ukrainian political figures. Ambassador Volker was accompanied in his meetings by U S ambassador to

00:25:02.040 the European union, Gordon Sonderland based on multiple readouts of these meetings recounted to

00:25:08.480 me by various U S officials, ambassadors Volker and, uh, Sondland reportedly provided advice to the

00:25:16.480 Ukrainian leadership on how to navigate the demands that the president had made of Mr. Zelensky.

00:25:22.080 I also learned from multiple U S officials that on or about 2nd of August, Mr. Giuliani reported

00:25:28.500 he traveled to Madrid to meet with one of president Zelensky's advisors. The U S officials

00:25:34.900 characterized this meeting, which was not recorded publicly at the time as a direct follow-up to the

00:25:40.500 president's call with Mr. Zelensky about the cases they had discussed separately, multiple U S officials

00:25:46.400 told me that Mr. Giuliani had reported privately reaching out to a variety of other Zelensky advisors,

00:25:52.440 including chief of staff and acting chairman of the security service of Ukraine. I don't know

00:25:58.160 whether those officials met or spoke with Mr. Giuliani, but I was told separately by multiple U S

00:26:02.220 officials that Mr. Yermak and Mr. Bakunov intended to travel to Washington in mid August. On August 9th,

00:26:09.860 the president told reporters, I think president Zelensky is going to make a deal with president

00:26:13.960 Putin and he'll be invited to the white house. And we look forward to seeing him. He's already been

00:26:18.540 invited to the white house and he wants to come. And I think he will. He's a very reasonable guy.

00:26:22.480 He wants to see peace in Ukraine. And I think he'll see it coming very soon, actually. End quote.

00:26:27.960 So what is all of this about? If you remember in the phone call, Mr. Zelensky asked for Rudy Giuliani

00:26:37.440 to come. Can you brief me on these things? Can you help us? And, and Zelensky was already aware of

00:26:46.640 all of the corruption that Mr. Trump was talking about. Now the circumstances leading up to the July

00:26:54.120 25th presidential phone call, according to the whistleblower, we're reading the transcript,

00:26:58.460 uh, as it was given to, uh, the house and the Senate earlier this morning, beginning in late

00:27:06.120 2019, a series of articles appeared on an online publication called the Hill. These articles,

00:27:13.400 several Ukrainian officials, most notably prosecutor general Yuri Lusenko made a series of allegations

00:27:20.000 against other Ukrainian officials and current and former U.S. officials. Mr. Lusenko and his

00:27:27.080 colleagues alleged, according to John Solomon at the Hill, who, by the way, is coming up in about 40

00:27:33.000 minutes, to the very best of my knowledge. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Uh, I'm on the wrong page. That was

00:27:38.440 four. So I got to go to five now. Hang on. Let me pay. All right. Now, Mr. Lusenko from Ukrainian,

00:27:47.220 uh, the Ukrainian government, uh, alleged that the Ukrainians, uh, possessed evidence that Ukrainian

00:27:57.020 officials, namely head of national anti-corruption bureau of Ukraine and member of parliamentary,

00:28:04.480 uh, Sir he Lusenko had interfered in the 2016 U S presidential election, allegedly in collaboration

00:28:13.720 with the DNC and the U S embassy in Kyiv. That's quite a charge. The U S embassy in Kyiv,

00:28:24.520 specifically U S ambassador Marine, uh, Marie Yovanovitch, who had criticized Mr. Lusenko's,

00:28:31.700 uh, organization for its poor record in fighting corruption, had allegedly obstructed Ukrainian law

00:28:37.900 enforcement agencies, pursuit of corruption cases, including by providing a do not prosecute

00:28:44.400 list and had Ukrainian prosecutors banned from traveling to the United States, expressly to

00:28:50.740 prevent them from delivering their evidence about the 2016 U S elections. Also that former vice

00:28:57.580 president Biden had pressured former Ukrainian president, Petro Poroshenko in 2016 to fire the

00:29:04.040 Ukrainian prosecutor general, uh, Victor Shorkin in order to quash a purported criminal probe into

00:29:11.340 Burisma holdings, a Ukrainian energy company on whose board, the former vice president's son,

00:29:16.980 Hunter sat. Now what's interesting about this is this is what Trump is operating on. This is the part that

00:29:29.280 the media will never tell you about. They'll say he was just after Joe Biden. He was asking for a favor.

00:29:35.980 He pressured. No, no. The counter charge, the other side of this is that the DNC working with the former

00:29:46.540 government that thought they would be in power forever. The Democrats had apps. Nobody had any idea

00:29:53.880 that that government was going to be overturned by a comedy talk show host. Okay. Remember, this is the guy

00:30:02.940 who's like the John Stewart of Ukraine. He's the guy the president was talking to. And the reason why he won,

00:30:10.780 he never did any debates. He never did anything. He never stated policy. He just said, this is all insane.

00:30:17.940 And we're corrupt and it's got to stop. Nobody would have thought he won. So they, the Democrats,

00:30:26.700 if this is true, the Democrats thought they have all of the hatches closed. There's no water going to

00:30:33.020 be, but leaking out of this. We're all fine. The, the allegation is from Luchenko was that the government

00:30:42.220 at the highest levels in collusion with our U S ambassador appointed by, uh, appointed by Obama,

00:30:51.740 right? Uh, was they were all working together. The DNC had come over and said, Hey, we need some dirt

00:31:01.560 on Donald Trump. And the, the Ukrainian government working through oligarchs went to Russia and helped

00:31:11.940 gather information. Then when the 2016, uh, Russian investigation was happening, they were firing

00:31:21.160 and, uh, bribing everybody to shut up. And the ambassador was stopping people to come to the

00:31:28.380 United States to say, Hey, this is what's really going on. That's what Trump is asking for. And Trump

00:31:36.400 is asking for the Russian hacked servers, because what's on their servers, what's on their servers?

00:31:45.020 Did any of them, were they saying, Hey, can you find out some information on Donald Trump?

00:31:50.520 Now he's not doing this just with Rudy Giuliani. He's doing this with the attorney general.

00:31:57.560 And the attorney general denies, we should point out the attorney general says that there was bar,

00:32:03.400 bar says he was not involved in this, at least as to the, to the extent of in any, like what,

00:32:10.120 what happened in the call, right? So, Oh yeah. Yeah. He's saying that because in the call,

00:32:15.140 Trump says, I want you to talk to bar. I want you to talk to Giuliani. Bar says he did not have

00:32:19.680 those conversations. And Giuliani has publicly admitted he has had them. Right. But just to be

00:32:24.840 clear to give bar, he may not, he may not have had those conversations, but it may not have risen to

00:32:29.820 his level. Who knows? We don't know where, where, uh, I'd be interested to see if bar knew about any

00:32:36.580 of this. But what you just laid out explains perfectly in my mind about the thing that Stu,

00:32:43.540 you brought up with the, uh, with this, the computer system, with the conversation in the

00:32:47.800 white house being transferred over into that classified, you know, uh, server record. Right.

00:32:52.760 This is one of the things that they say is a piece of evidence that shows they were trying to

00:32:55.980 hide it. And I think it can be just as easily interpreted the other way. Yeah. Well, I mean,

00:33:01.260 if you think about, I mean, as is, if you look at that conversation, just the mere fact that he

00:33:07.200 mentioned Biden and that scandal does not constitute who cares. Like, even if that got out,

00:33:12.780 it might look bad, but it's not going to sure. It's not going to warrant them putting a classification

00:33:18.200 on this and throwing it over there. But if everything you're looking into, if all of the,

00:33:22.780 if what, if what you Glenn just laid out is, is accurate, then you don't want the Obama

00:33:28.020 holdovers in the white house getting wind of that. You don't want intelligence knowing

00:33:32.920 about that. Especially thinking about it from Trump's perspective. He's very suspicious of

00:33:36.860 intelligence. He's had bad experiences with them. But what he's alleging here is, and we

00:33:41.640 have evidence to back up that things like this have happened, uh, that what he's alleging is

00:33:49.960 that Obama and the DNC worked with the intelligence agency and the, uh, the government of Ukraine

00:34:00.500 to try to dig up dirt on Donald Trump to stop his campaign. Well, if I'm having conversations

00:34:08.920 about, you know, making sure I do not want the intelligence community, I do not want the DNC,

00:34:15.100 the Obama holdovers. I don't want anyone knowing about it, but I do want a trail of it someplace.

00:34:22.180 Don't delete it. This reminded me of a... Hang on. Back in just a second.

00:34:26.860 Hey, it's Glenn. And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray

00:34:47.060 Unleashed. His podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast. And he's on with

00:34:52.580 us now, Congressman from Utah, Chris Stewart. How are you, sir? Glenn, it's good to be with you.

00:34:57.280 You're the only guy I'd walk out of the hearing for. I think you're foolish for doing it. You have

00:35:02.460 a front row seat, literally a front row seat. Tell me what you think this is really, what's really

00:35:08.480 going on here? Well, it's nothing that we haven't seen for three years. Uh, and that's just not

00:35:13.820 shocking. It shouldn't surprise anyone. This is a concerted effort by Democrats to, uh, to repeal and

00:35:19.880 rescind the 2016 election. It's what they've been doing since the very day Donald Trump was

00:35:24.840 elected. And Glenn, it's, it's not going to be successful. There's just nothing here that is

00:35:29.880 impeachable. And if I could make this point, I think it's a fair point. I'm not here to protect

00:35:35.160 the president. I'm not here to protect anyone. We just want to know the facts, but the facts just

00:35:39.140 don't bear this out. Unlike in previous impeachments. I mean, with Richard Nixon, the American people

00:35:43.740 understood that that was wrong. There was a break-in. There was a cover-up. There was, uh, there was

00:35:48.020 obstruction of justice with Bill Clinton. The American people knew that it was wrong for him

00:35:52.460 to be with an intern and it was wrong for him to lie to a grand jury. And what in the world are

00:35:57.460 you going to commit? How, how in the world do you convince the American people that there's an

00:36:01.240 impeachable offense here because he asked a foreign leader to investigate what he thought was corruption?

00:36:07.500 And I think most Americans look, look at that and listen around and go, why in the world should we

00:36:11.880 remove him from office for that? Yeah. And you know, Chris, as I read this, cause I read this this

00:36:17.620 morning and you had access to it yesterday. As I was reading this this morning, I don't think this

00:36:23.520 is about Joe Biden. This is really all about the Russia investigation. What was going on? Um, you know,

00:36:32.220 when Obama was in, in office, were the Democrats using the Ukrainians to, uh, look for dirt on Donald 0.83

00:36:41.960 Trump and you know, that, that, that crowd strike server thing is disturbing. If you look at it from

00:36:49.220 a different point of view, then you all of a sudden go, wait a minute, that would explain why he would

00:36:55.060 take this transcript and put it into an encrypted form that no one can get to unless subpoenaed by,

00:37:02.240 uh, by the Congress. No one can get into this because he's showing, I think he's trying to make

00:37:09.700 the case of a deep state. Am I wrong? I think there's no, I think there's much more that we

00:37:16.720 got to learn there. And you know what, with the crowd strike, there's just so much to this that

00:37:20.640 many people are overwhelmed by it. But the essence of that is just exactly as you've described it.

00:37:25.380 And by the way, this, this thing too, about whether this document was stored in a, in a

00:37:30.280 highly classified, uh, server. Um, we have no idea whether that's standard for, uh, conversations

00:37:36.620 between the head of state and it certainly isn't criminal and it may not be outside of the norm

00:37:41.100 at all. So I mean, some people are trying to make a big deal of that as if that's part of the cover

00:37:45.760 up, but, but a, again, we have no idea if that's not standard and B, it doesn't mean anything anyway.

00:37:51.860 So Ben Sass, uh, I mean, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer said exactly what I would expect them to say.

00:37:58.060 And that is, Oh, this is very disturbing. I read this and it's very, and so I, I read this today

00:38:04.840 with an open mind thinking, okay, I'm going to find something disturbing. I haven't found it. Uh,

00:38:10.340 except I think I found a reason where all of it makes sense on what Trump is doing, um, and what

00:38:17.000 they're accusing him and why they flip so hard and made this their, their key to destroy him finally.

00:38:24.080 Um, but I, I, what did Ben Sass, do you have any idea? Did you see anything in here? Because Ben Sass said,

00:38:30.620 look, there's some things in here that I think we need, uh, answers to questions on and, you know,

00:38:35.940 you shouldn't circle the wagons. And I agree with all of that. I'm not here to protect the president.

00:38:40.980 Um, I, I want the truth. Um, but is there anything in here that stuck out to you?

00:38:48.980 Well, I mean, I, I went into this with a little, a little bit of anxiety. You'd never know what to

00:38:53.540 expect. And in this world, heaven's sakes, you never know what to expect. Right. Right. And I was

00:38:58.360 fearful that there might be something to this. I'm surprised to this. Uh, but, and I read it

00:39:03.760 carefully. I read it two or three times. I took notes. And at the end of this, which was late

00:39:08.400 yesterday afternoon, uh, be honest with you, Glenn, I was much more confident that this president was

00:39:13.880 not going to be impeached than I was before I read the document. Once again, I said, is this it?

00:39:20.840 I mean, is that really all there is to this? Uh, uh, and I think again, you look, it doesn't matter

00:39:26.440 if you get to 217 votes in the house, you have to convince the American people and the American

00:39:32.540 people have to have had a consensus among them that this president has committed high crimes and

00:39:38.340 misdemeanors and he should be removed from office. And I don't think there's a chance in the world

00:39:43.520 that this document convinces the American people of that. And you talk about, uh, Nancy Pelosi and

00:39:49.400 Chuck Schumer being disturbed, but Glenn, they've been disturbed for three years.

00:39:52.640 Yeah, but here's the thing. This is the part that doesn't fit, Chris, that Nancy Pelosi has been

00:39:58.280 against this. This makes no sense. She's been against this the whole time. Why all of a sudden

00:40:04.960 with nothing does she say, this is it got to strike while the iron is hot. The iron isn't hot. The

00:40:11.380 American people, even Democrats are not for impeachment. Yeah. You know what, Glenn? I think

00:40:16.720 there's a actually fairly simple explanation for that. And it's, and that's two elements to it. Number

00:40:21.120 one is, and this is just obvious and you know this, and that is that she just finally reached a point

00:40:26.860 with, with her own, uh, her own party, her own caucus, that she couldn't do nothing. And I think

00:40:33.760 the genesis was that with those seven moderates, uh, who represent, you know, moderate districts and

00:40:39.100 in the past have been kind of a buffer for her. When they wrote that, uh, that editorial over the

00:40:44.080 weekend, I think she felt like she had to respond to this. But at the same time, the second element to

00:40:48.320 this is this, she's not serious about this effort. If she was serious about an impeachment inquiry,

00:40:54.120 that requires a vote on the house floor. She has to put her members on record of saying, yes,

00:40:59.620 we are seeking impeachment. And she hasn't done that. She's trying to split the baby. She's saying,

00:41:05.060 yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to start an impeachment inquiry and we're going to do it by

00:41:08.460 doing the same thing we've been doing for the last, you know, nine months. And that's the committee's

00:41:12.600 doing the same, same thing. She's not serious about this inquiry or she would have the vote and compel her 0.95

00:41:17.980 members to say, yes, I want to proceed. And she hasn't done that. All right. Um, the guy who you

00:41:23.720 just questioned, he is the director of national intelligence. He's the guy who stopped the memo

00:41:30.900 from coming out and be given to Congress. They're saying that this is unprecedented. No whistleblower

00:41:37.240 has ever been kept in the history of our country from Congress. Is that true? What do you make of,

00:41:43.880 of this and his testimony? Yeah, it's true, but there's a reason for that. And that is,

00:41:51.140 we've never had a whistleblower complaint that was an accusation against the president of the United

00:41:56.360 States. And so then you have, uh, elements of executive privilege. And the second thing that

00:42:01.880 he had to consider, the law compelled him to consider is, was this outside of the jurisdiction

00:42:07.620 of the director of intelligence, which it was. And look, Mr. McGuire, as I was adamant in my

00:42:13.300 defense of him, this is a man of clear integrity. He found a deficiency and ambiguity in the law and

00:42:19.120 did not know what to do. He wasn't trying to obstruct. He wasn't trying to protect the lighthouse. He

00:42:23.820 simply didn't know what legally he could do in this, in this situation. And I think he did the only

00:42:28.820 thing that he could do. You go to the office of legal counsel and you seek their advice. That's what

00:42:33.100 they're there for. But to create this narrative of my democratic colleagues and they attacked his

00:42:38.020 integrity so often and so, and so repeatedly as if he's the problem. And then I said to them,

00:42:43.940 if you think you're going to win on this by trying to convince the American people that this is a

00:42:47.560 political stooge sitting before us, good luck on that. Because if anyone watches this hearing for

00:42:52.580 even a few minutes, it's very clear. This is a military officer who has served his nation for 36 years.

00:42:58.940 He's not here for political ambitions. He's here to serve his country. And that's what he was

00:43:03.080 trying to do. So it's, it's a, it was a threat to the national security, according to this

00:43:11.640 whistleblower. It's a threat to the presidency itself and the country. Who does it? What should

00:43:20.740 he have done? You say, well, it wasn't in his jurisdiction. So can't he pass that to somebody's

00:43:26.760 jurisdiction or, you know, I, I, he said, he was asked, well, did people investigate this? And they

00:43:33.380 did. What did they find? Or why did it not go to someone else?

00:43:39.100 Well, and, and it gets a little bit complicated, Glenn, and I don't want to, I don't want to bore

00:43:43.700 you with some of the technical legalities, but I mean, what it comes down to is this, at what point,

00:43:49.920 and it's not whether he had to, I mean, the objection of my democratic colleagues is that

00:43:54.460 he didn't do it immediately, but he had a 14 day window where he could seek legal counsel and make

00:43:59.000 a decision. And, and it's apparent that again, he and the inspector general were in the disagreement

00:44:05.300 and a bit of a loggerheads. And I think that we have to realize that, as I said, the law is deficient

00:44:09.960 on this and we need to address the law. But, but I mean, this information as a member of Congress,

00:44:16.380 it's, and I've made this clear repeatedly over the years, my job and the thing that I protect is

00:44:22.400 allowing Congress to provide its oversight, allowing Congress to have access to this information. And

00:44:28.200 I've always said this should come to Congress, but I recognize in this case, there was a complicated

00:44:33.340 legal process before it could come to Congress. And that's all, that's what he was trying to comply

00:44:38.620 with. And it seems to me that it only added fuel to the fire. Um, you know, because they, you know,

00:44:45.880 everybody knows they try to play off the Nixon thing. It's the coverup that got you in trouble.

00:44:49.740 Yeah. Uh, and, uh, you know, if it's a legal process and this guy is, is honorable, I mean,

00:44:56.100 what are you going to do about it? Um, it just goes into just make more smoke, Chris, I appreciate

00:45:01.980 it. Good to talk to you. Thank you. Uh, representative Chris Stewart, uh, Republican

00:45:08.280 from, uh, Utah. I mean, legitimately right out of the hearing, like you'll see him go, but he's

00:45:14.320 going to walk back into the hearing room in a second. We'll see him on C-SPAN walking back in.

00:45:19.000 He just finished questioning. You're not going to get better, quicker insight from a real player in

00:45:24.140 the story than that. And we should mention to John Solomon, who was supposed to be on here. Um,

00:45:29.500 if you were looking for that interview, he had to reschedule till tomorrow. Um, had, had apparently

00:45:34.480 he said a meeting with a source, um, just come up, had just come up. So he's rescheduled till

00:45:40.280 tomorrow. He was the guy who is not by name, but his work is mentioned in the whistleblower report

00:45:47.500 extensively, extensively. And so he's going to come on and tell us what that is like to go through

00:45:52.720 on tomorrow's program at this time. And in one minute, I want to come back and I'm going to give

00:45:56.820 you the timeline. Stu will take you through the timeline of this whistleblower report because it's

00:46:02.800 all out of order. So it's kind of hard to figure out, but he's taking the time and put it all in

00:46:08.400 order so you can understand it. And we'll get to that also on today's television program. Uh,

00:46:15.080 we're going to take your phone calls and I'm going to be taking phone calls right after this broadcast

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00:46:26.800 you've pieced together, what you're thinking, what your friends and neighbors are saying about this

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00:46:40.460 calls, uh, and we'll do that right after, uh, this broadcast in about 40 minutes. So call now

00:46:47.520 and talk to our producers, 888-727-BECK. All right, let me tell you about Goldline.

00:46:53.740 Uh, there is something happening as I'm going to outline to you, uh, tomorrow, whatever changed

00:47:04.260 last week, we clearly still have a very big problem. They are still, the Fed is still bailing out the

00:47:14.640 banks to the tune of 100 billion. I'm sorry, $160 billion a day. Why? What happened? No one is

00:47:29.000 answering this question and it's gone from 50 billion to now they announced yesterday, $160

00:47:36.740 billion every day. At least they can tell us though, which banks, uh, we're borrowing. No,

00:47:43.400 the money, right? No, the Fed doesn't even know who they're borrowing, who's borrowing the money.

00:47:47.540 That's insanity. That's one of the most fascinating parts. It's legitimately an anonymous borrowing

00:47:51.860 system. It is. That is something I need to get involved in. Yeah. You ain't kidding. I don't know

00:47:56.140 what you're talking about. I didn't borrow that 10 bill. All right. There's an tomorrow I'll get into

00:47:59.980 this, uh, cause we have to, uh, there's something wrong and it's, and it's going to affect the entire

00:48:06.380 world. I think this, if this whistleblower complaint is what I think it is, buckle up 2020 is going to be

00:48:15.500 an ugly, ugly year for everything. The blaze radio network on demand.

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