On today's episode of the Glenn Beck Program, Dr. Bruce Schneier talks about the President's decision to take off his mask after being infected with a coronavirus, and why he should be required to wear a mask to protect his face.
00:06:25.960values have shrunk to fantastic levels taxes have risen our ability to pay has fallen
00:06:37.780government of all kinds is faced by serious curtailment of income right thank you for
00:06:44.080bringing us down look how bad things are the withered leaves of industrial enterprise
00:06:50.720oh finally a president find no market for their produce no markets for any product many years and
00:06:58.840thousands of families are gone thank you great nation will endure whoa whoa whoa as it has endured
00:07:05.540wait a minute what will revive and will prosper no we won't first of all let me assert my firm belief
00:07:13.540that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself no don't listen to that it's withered leaves
00:07:22.160no no stop which paralyzes needed effort to convert retreat into advance no stop it stop it we're in
00:07:33.140a depression it's not gonna get better you uh you've lost your income you've lost your family savings
00:07:40.900fear fear fear make sure you fear we're not gonna conquer this and it's that kind of leadership
00:07:49.240that got us through world war one or world war two where we just spoke of the withered leaves on the
00:07:58.640trees and the destruction to all of our institutions do you remember when the world trade center came
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00:08:26.260For the families who mourn, this nation stands with the good people of New York City and New Jersey and Connecticut.
00:11:19.300And if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving,
00:11:29.100then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British fleet, would carry on the struggle until, in God's good time, the new world, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.
00:11:49.040Well, it is a good thing that the new world, because we were suffering from a depression.
00:13:04.920Really, you're okay with killing a child after they're born, letting them just shiver, let them just starve to death, let them gasp their last breath all alone, and we're the death cult?
00:14:16.820It's sad that that's an American idea.
00:14:19.780It's really, truly sad that we're the only people that actually believe in those things, that we as individuals can stand up and conquer it.
00:19:10.140So, a national poll really doesn't mean much because you don't know where those voters are coming from.
00:19:17.420They could, you know, there could be a concentration of people from Chicago, New York, and California, and that would throw the entire thing off.
00:19:25.060It could even be as granular as cities and not enough rural voters.
00:19:29.140So, that's why the national poll, you know, I'm skeptical of those.
00:19:38.000That's, you need to really get down to someone who has voted in the last four elections to see who's likely to turn out.
00:19:48.700And even that's a problem, Glenn, because there were a lot of voters missed in 2016, because in our book, The Great Revolt, there were these voters we call the paralistas.
00:20:03.220They're sort of like, we named them after Ross Crow, because they're like Haley's Comet.
00:20:07.680They only come out every 100 years, right?
00:20:10.380And those people aren't picked up by pollsters, because if a pollster is trying to do a really good poll and find a likely voter, and they get them on the phone and say, hey, have you voted in the last two elections?
00:20:27.000And so, there's, there's, and they made up 6% of Trump's winning coalition in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Iowa.
00:20:38.880So, there is, you know, I'm, I'm always sort of leery of them not being part of the universe.
00:20:47.540And finally, between nationally, about one and a half percent of Trump voters are shy Trump voters.
00:20:57.860In other words, they don't tell a pollster that they're, they're supporting him.
00:21:02.920I'm surprised it's that, I am surprised it's that low.
00:21:05.580Well, that's nationally, um, in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, uh, um, and Wisconsin, in our book, there's a poll in the back, a survey of just Trump voters.
00:21:16.900And they said 34% of them did not tell a family member, a friend, or a pollster that they were going to vote for him.
00:21:30.680So, when you're going through, uh, Pennsylvania, and you're hearing, and, and, and Ohio, and, and Wisconsin, and Michigan, and you're, you're listening to people, are you hearing people that say, I didn't vote for him before, but I am now?
00:22:54.260So Pennsylvania specifically, uh, 246,000 new gun owners since March, 40% of them are women.
00:23:02.620Uh, the 178,000 new registered, new registered Republican voters in the state.
00:23:14.020So there are hints and look at culturally as well.
00:23:17.600Look at things like, um, the NFL and look, look, I mean, I think that when the Steelers played the Monday night game, the, uh, the, the viewership was down 19 percentage points.
00:23:28.400Tell me about what is happening in not only Pennsylvania, but do you have any look at the kind of confusion, uh, that we are expecting on the new rules that Democrats have, have put forth on, on voting?
00:23:44.700Well, you know, uh, obviously I live in Pennsylvania.
00:23:49.660We never had mail-in voting before in the state until, uh, June's primary.
00:23:57.140We had absentee balloting, but it was like so restrictive and punishing to do it that only 4% of people, um, uh, did it, um, uh, on, on, on an average basis.
00:24:11.440Uh, now in our primary in June, it was almost 50% of the people.
00:24:17.160And while the process of doing it was, was not that bad in terms of getting your, you know, ballot and mailing it in, the problem became once the different county, um, offices had your ballot.
00:24:35.720I don't know why, because certainly there were, you know, our, our, our primary was, uh, delayed several months.
00:24:43.220So the, the preparation should have been there.
00:24:45.860Nonetheless, with the exception of Allegheny County in Pittsburgh, um, almost every county went days, if not weeks before the final results came in.
00:24:56.600And, you know, that's, Pennsylvania could be the decider.
00:25:01.700I think it's between Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, to be honest.
00:25:05.560Um, and, and so across, you know, if we were in a, like, weeks, like December, before we know, that's a, that's a big problem.
00:25:14.400People have a level of expectation that they do their job and, and go through all the hoops and loops to vote.
00:25:21.820Why can't government fulfill that same obligation?
00:25:26.120I, I will tell you, Selena, I have to tell you, I think what the Democrats have done and what the media is currently doing, saying, um, that not only is expecting a result on election night, uh, wrong, but it is dangerous.
00:25:42.260And then trying to tell us that this is a tried and true tradition of America, they're not going to understand it.
00:25:50.600This is, everyone knows this is the most critical election in our lifetime, uh, whether you're voting for Donald Trump or Joe Biden, that's the way you feel.
00:26:00.260And for the, the, the, the election process to be changed, uh, if there is a hint of fraud and there already is, I mean, they stole all of the thumb drives.
00:26:14.540Somebody broke in all of the thumb drives from the machines in Philadelphia, just gone.
00:26:19.900Um, I mean, we, we, we, you're not going to have a patient society.
00:26:28.160And, and I think the thing that, well, first of all, I think my profession, um, is, is going way over top and scaring people to pieces.
00:26:37.820Uh, second of all, that, that's not our job.
00:26:40.860Our job is to dispassionately, uh, report the news.
00:26:45.720Um, and, and the other problem we have, Glenn, is everyone tends to think or write that, you know, only conservatives or only Republicans don't trust, um, large institutions such as governments and counties to, to count votes.
00:27:13.660And, and, and they're, and, and they're, they're sort of only claiming one side, but it's not just going to be one side.
00:27:21.780That's going to be upset if this process isn't going to be done.
00:27:25.880It's going to be uniformly, um, uh, uh, made, or people are just going to be uniformly aggravated, frustrated, disappointed, and angry that they couldn't do their job when voters say, look, I did what you told me to do.
00:27:42.780I filled out the form or I showed up in person.
00:28:13.900That's like saying that, you know, FDR shouldn't have said we have nothing to fear, but fear itself.
00:28:18.840Uh, and it's, it's become so blue, just so blatantly clear that they are just an anti-Trump machine.
00:28:31.100Have they, and the Democrats overplayed this hand, assuming that everybody's going to be fine with BLM and Marxism and, and the riots in the streets and the hatred of Donald Trump?
00:28:45.060No, I think they really underestimate, um, uh, the average voter, even if they're voting for Biden.
00:28:53.440Um, uh, people that are normal, right.
00:29:02.600They're smart enough, whether they went to college or not to see the inference.
00:29:07.360Um, in fact, we've gone from inference to just like heavy handed, um, uh, uh, attacks on the president when they aren't warranted.
00:29:17.040You know, in 2016, I said to Donald, then candidate, Donald Trump, voters take you seriously, but they don't take everything you say literally, where my profession takes everything you say literally, and doesn't take you all that seriously.
00:29:33.080I don't think much has changed from that.
00:29:35.660If you were standing in Western Pennsylvania and you were listening to that speech that the president gave yesterday, whether you liked it or not, whether you like him or not, it was an aspirational speech.
00:29:48.740Very much, very much in the way that make America great was an aspirational, um, slogan, but the press twisted it into being nationalistic when it was more about aspiration.
00:30:03.620But it was also about localism, something they praise if you buy something at Whole Foods.
00:30:09.040But if you hold localism, uh, as, as something as part of your ideal, all of a sudden you're a nationalist.
00:30:16.060If you come from certain parts of the country, um, the, the last thing I wanted to ask you about is, um, I, I, I, uh, put out a tweet yesterday.
00:30:29.340Let me see if I can pull it up here real quick.
00:30:31.140I said, uh, as someone who didn't vote for the real Donald Trump in 2016, but will in 2020, is there anyone like me?
00:31:18.440Uh, and now are, is, is this an echo chamber or do you think that is real?
00:31:25.720Well, I do think that the Twitter tends to, um, be an echo chamber, but not when it comes to conservatives.
00:31:34.400Uh, when I watch Twitter interactions between journalists, uh, and, and how that drives the news, um, I'm very skeptical of that reflecting the real world.
00:31:45.920But having experienced it in every state that I cover, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Michigan, that same, um, switch that you talked about, uh, and, and, um, it is a very real phenomenon.
00:32:02.680And people, I think are less likely to come out and tell someone they're doing that depending on their geographical area.
00:32:12.040In particular, if you're in an upper middle class or too wealthy neighborhood, because you want to still be invited to the block party, right?
00:32:19.840Uh, and our, our, our people, two people on my staff said, I'm going to do the point to where, uh, I just, I'm just like, like that child who's just whining and crying.
00:32:34.480And at some point you're just like, fine.
00:32:37.400And they said, I find myself just throwing my hands up and going, fine, whatever.
00:33:33.420Joe Biden won, but he has literally no power because Mitch McConnell has the Senate and Nancy Pelosi will not have enough of a majority in the house to affect big changes.
00:33:47.360Well, that would be a, that would be a, uh, a good thing if that, uh, if that was our worst case scenario, but, uh, I wouldn't, I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatched on, on this election.
00:34:46.340People are mourning the loss of their loved ones every year with the flu.
00:34:52.000Every time I pass a car dealership and they are not standing and mourning and reminding you how many people are killed in car crashes every day.
00:35:03.100I think to myself, GM, you should be ashamed of yourself.
00:41:29.480And I know you have the ability to, you know, you have ships, but we can't ask you to do that because it might be dangerous for you.
00:41:36.920So while we could ask you because it's your country, it's your freedom, it's your life, it's your sons and daughters who are trapped on the beach.
00:41:49.180No, we don't want you to get into your private boats and go pick those guys up because it's too dangerous.