Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Sasha Stone ｜ 9⧸19⧸22
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Glenn and Matilda discuss the Queen's Funeral, inflation, the stock market, and much, much more. Plus, a fascinating interview with a woman who lost her way with the Democrats and started listening to the other side.
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We're in the middle of, oh my gosh, this podcast is always, it's always, I mean, it's interrupting
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It gets in the way of all of our lives and apparently our deaths.
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Boy, we today, what coverage we had on the Queen's funeral.
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Not a single word about it until right now because it's, well, it started about two o'clock
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in the morning and, you know, clear into the afternoon.
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Well, they had to walk a long time in a straight line.
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We talked to a fascinating woman who's now writing on Substack about how she lost her
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She was a big Democrat supporter and then started seeing cracks and did something truly remarkable.
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All part of today's podcast begins in one minute.
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Tons of Americans still don't know that it's possible to use your retirement account to
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Also building a protective wall against inflation and other forms of economic insanity like, you
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know, the stock market, which, Stu, I mean, right?
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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So last night, our president was on television on 60 Minutes, and it was an amazing softball
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But the president announced a couple of things.
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But I'm surprised to hear the president saying it.
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He also said he vows to get in control of inflation, but inflation is basically even.
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Mr. President, as you know, last Tuesday, the annual inflation rate came in at 8.3%.
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Well, first of all, let's put this in perspective.
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Inflation rate month to month was just an inch.
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Month to month is not how you measure inflation.
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It's not 8.2 to 8.2 month to month, meaning it's flat.
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It is 8.2% higher than last, what, September or August.
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So remember the high inflation that we all had and we're like, whoa, prices are out of control.
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No, I'm not saying it's good news, but it was 8.2 or 8.2 before.
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I mean, it's not, maybe I can make it sound like all of a sudden, my God, it went to 8.2%.
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It's the highest inflation rate, Mr. President, in 40 years.
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We're in a position where for the last several months, it hasn't spiked.
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He's basically arguing the fact that the inflation has hit the American people for a longer period of time is good news.
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Like, hey, you've dealt with this terrible problem for six months or 12 months, not just the one, so therefore you shouldn't worry about it.
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Like, no, the problem is existing and it has peaked and we've stayed right near the peak here for month after month after month after month.
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That just keeps hitting families over and over and over again.
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If it was just a one month spike and it went away, that wouldn't be that big of a problem.
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The problem is that it's going on for now a year or more and he has seemingly no way of controlling it.
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Look, core inflation, and you know this, I don't have to say this.
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If somebody needs to do their own homework, just go grocery shopping.
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Now, gasoline has come down off of its five-year high.
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Because gasoline, he has been draining our strategic oil reserves.
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Do we still have that chart I showed last week?
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Our oil reserves are on a reverse hockey stick.
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We are getting rid of our strategic oil reserves for what?
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Now, energy crisis in Europe is going to spread here because it's not just what Russia is doing.
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The problem is they are ahead of us on all this ESG stuff.
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I told you last week, and I've always told you that I'm bad at timing, and I am.
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I couldn't believe it when I opened up the paper on Saturday, and I'm reading about how Germany is now nationalizing three of their power plants.
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What's going to happen is these energy prices are not going to be affordable by any stretch of the imagination.
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But England right now is so focused, and the media is so focused on, can we put the poor woman into the ground, please?
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And I don't know if the media will ever tell you what's really going on.
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But they're now talking about printing at the central bank, the Bank of London or of England.
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They're now talking about more money printing because they don't have the money in their coffers to be able to pay for everybody's electric bills because they've promised they would pay anything over 2,500 pounds a month.
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Well, so that's just going to drive inflation in the UK through the roof.
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It will devalue their British pound, and it will force them to nationalize these companies because these companies will not be able to deal with the price caps.
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And so the government will say, see, they can't do it.
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The free market just doesn't work, and they will nationalize.
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By the way, something else you probably didn't know is last week, Putin met with President Xi.
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President Xi, they are meeting about a new currency.
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I have told you for 20 years, the currency will be debased.
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Everybody told me, Glenn, it's never going to crash.
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And I've said for 20 years, do you really believe that no one at any time will draw a line in the sand and say, enough is enough?
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That's exactly what China, Russia, and the BRIC countries are doing right now.
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Now, developing a new currency, that will put us into a tailspin.
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And our government knows it, but they're not telling you.
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Why else would they be talking about a digital currency?
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The White House, in surprise of all surprises, has come out this weekend and said, we recommend the Fed goes to a new digital currency, a new digital dollar.
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I urge you not to take anything that I have just said as gospel.
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It is critical that you know the truth and you know how to find the truth.
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The best way to find the truth, the best starting place is who's telling you, you have to listen to me because I have the truth or I have, quote, the science.
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And you will not be allowed to question anything.
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Any question of what I believe is true makes you my enemy.
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Anyone who tells you that does not have the truth on their side.
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And I urge you and your neighbors and your friends to do that.
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So the White House has said now that they're going to create, they recommend creating a new digital dollar.
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What, a year ago, year and a half ago, because it has already been done.
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I think it's called the Madison Project or Hamilton, probably the Hamilton Project up in at MIT.
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It's been a while since we've talked about this.
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But now they are releasing their first ever comprehensive framework for responsible development of digital assets.
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And I'm going to play this and then I want to take a break and comment on it.
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Because when you are redesigning a world, and there are several people doing that now.
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They're dividing up the world and taking their own positions and hunkering down.
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We are, unfortunately, are on the receiving end of China.
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But we are on a collision course now with China.
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But first, let me play what Joe Biden said yesterday.
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If there's a one China policy, then Taiwan makes their own judgments about their independence.
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If, in fact, there was an unprecedented attack.
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After our interview, a White House official told us U.S. policy has not changed.
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Officially, the U.S. will not say whether American forces would defend Taiwan.
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But the commander-in-chief had a view of his own.
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So, unlike Ukraine, to be clear, sir, U.S. forces, U.S. men and women would defend Taiwan in the event of a Chinese invasion.
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Probably something you never thought you would do.
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Absolutely never something I thought I would do.
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But I am familiar with your thoughts on certain things.
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I've watched your interviews with different people over the year.
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So, Sasha, you've been a diehard Democrat, Obama, Clinton, and Joe Biden, right?
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You made video about Joe Biden trying to get him elected.
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I mean, I want to tell you that I devoted my entire life, unfortunately, to this cause.
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And, you know, as you get older, you really need that time.
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So, I guess I thought I was on some sort of crusade, spending every single day arguing
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on Twitter and Facebook and writing blistering pieces for Medium.
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And, you know, I really did think I was on the right side.
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And I felt the same sense of purpose that I think a lot of people on the left felt after
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I think it just, that's when it became, I know you're interested in, you know, talking
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And I think that's really the moment that it became a religion.
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What was it that you voted for with Joe Biden, and you think your friends voted for with Joe
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But also, I had sort of an emotional connection to him somehow.
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But, you know, you have to remember that on our side, like, we actually, it's weird that
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people with so much power and wealth that dominate almost every institution would feel
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like they're the ones who are besieged, you know, that they're the oppressed side.
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And I think that's what we definitely convinced ourselves that we were stopping, you know,
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And I believe that Joe Biden was the only one who could do it.
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But I did get a lot of heat from my friends who didn't think Biden was the guy.
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And I feel sort of somewhat guilty about that, that I didn't see it.
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I just thought, oh, he'll win and that'll be fine.
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And, you know, everything will be everything will be back to, quote unquote, normal in America.
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And what that meant was rolling back the forward motion of this country to the Obama administration,
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But what I've learned in the past few years is you can't go back, you know, you have to
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If you try to hold on to the past, you're just going to be selling things that people
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Wouldn't that be what, I mean, that's what Joe Biden says he's selling.
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And Barack Obama is part of, you know, the plan here and moving his vision forward.
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And I think that's the problem is that they're so desperately trying to cling to the utopia
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that we all built, that they've lost sight of reality, the reality of most Americans,
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And I think they see it as, and I've started to see it as, a fight between Obama's America
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and Trump's America, which is a little like the moment that, you know, back in the 60s when
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And then eventually they moved to Reagan in 1980.
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And then the whole pendulum shifted to the right.
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We're in that struggle phase of a disruptor that's breaking up the status quo as the pendulum
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But it's going to be a while before we get there.
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And it might not get there if the Democrats hold on to power.
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This is, I mean, I'm sure we disagree on still a lot of stuff.
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Would you can, you wouldn't consider yourself a conservative.
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You're just a, a traditional liberal, I'm guessing.
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Well, I am in sort of a strange place because I have, I was telling one of my best friends,
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you know, my friends basically no longer speak to me.
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Most of them don't, because we don't really have anything to talk about.
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But, you know, I kept saying, no, I mean, in all this time, my policies haven't changed
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Like the things that I, the one area where, where my mind has changed a little bit is with
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abortion, um, I used to be one of those people, you know, but I, I've, I've seen the other
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I see things from the perspective of the right now, and I understand why this is something
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that they've been fighting for decades, you know?
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I'm not really, I'm not really sure where I would go politically, you know, when face was
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about, I live in California, so it doesn't really matter.
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Like, it's such a deep blue state that my vote is meaningless, you know?
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So I don't think, I don't have to, like, if I lived in Pennsylvania or Arizona, you know,
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honestly, I'm pretty sure I would just be voting red.
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I voted for, uh, the recall and I voted for Larry Elder for that.
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Um, so I, you know, I'm just, I'm just one of those independents that's going to take
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every election as it comes and decide, you know, on the spot.
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No, I'm not a traditional conservative, um, the way that you are, for instance, you know,
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I don't have that sort of sense of purpose, I think, that, that a lot of people in the
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So, um, what was it that broke the camel's back?
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Well, um, I'm not really sure what happened in my brain that, that changed the way that
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I saw the world, but I know it happened in 2020.
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I know it happened once the, the protests and the riots broke out and then watching
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the media cover it up and change the story and change the narrative.
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And then as we headed into the election, I just kept seeing how there was a, and sort
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of an administrative state that was taking over the democratic process.
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I'd never seen anything like that before, but there was so much money and power invested
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in bringing down a duly elected president that they didn't like.
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And that's what you didn't, but you didn't like Donald Trump or did you?
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And the weird thing is that when I decided to, well, you know, you, you, you talk about
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this a lot, actually, Glenn, which is the dehumanization of whole groups of people that, that is reminiscent
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And I felt that when I was on Twitter, I was part of that.
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And it gave me a chill that I was dehumanizing a whole group of people.
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Where does all of the hatred every single day go?
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You know, they think the right is the side with the hate, but they're not the left.
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And so I started in my way of trying to get to know this world.
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I began watching Trump rallies and I watched all of his, I still, to this day, I've seen
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every single Trump rally, you know, looking for that smoking gun that would say, yes, he's
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In fact, it's hard to watch him and not like him because he's charming and charismatic and
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He had funny people who really hate him and they've missed a really good time on his, on
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I was in such a dark place and the only, nobody believes me on this, but the only moments of
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joy I had was watching those rallies because everybody was happy.
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It was kind of like the people of Whoville when the Grinch is taken away.
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All of their toys and their Christmas tree and everything.
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And he's waiting to watch them suffer, but they don't, they sing and they're happy.
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And I was watching this and I was thinking, you know, and then I started to look forward
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I'm like, okay, let's see that the music would start and he'd come out and it was just a
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love fest, you know, people who were, who had hope, you know, that he gave them hope.
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And I didn't see the cult, you know, I see the cult more on the left than I do on the
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And people don't know this about Trump, but he's, he makes a lot of jokes at his own
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And, and, you know, when I explain this to people, like the one where he says that the
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guy, one of the governors or something plucked a hair off of his head and he's like, and we
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went looking for that hair because he couldn't afford to lose one hair, but he's always making
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jokes at his own expense, jokes about his vanity.
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So you watched all of these and yet you voted in and made videos about Joe Biden, right?
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And yeah, in 2019, as I was heading into the 2020 election, I was talking to my friends.
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In fact, they wouldn't even speak to me now really about Trump.
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They say his supporters must be exterminated, terrible stuff like that.
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And I said, you know what you sound like, don't you?
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You know what the word exterminate was used for, you know, in regards to people.
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And that did shut them up for a minute, but they really, they're so full of hate.
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I've never seen anything like this in my entire life, honestly, that kind of dehumanization.
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But, but I kept saying to them, you know, I'm, I'm not so sure about Biden.
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And they're like, well, what do you think, you know, what's the alternative Trump?
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I'm seeing this sort of bizarre new religion that's overtaken the left.
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And I mean, I, I, not old as in, that's a bad thing, but I could see that he was declining.
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Since I saw him at a luncheon in 2019, he was already starting to decline mentally.
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And I'd seen my dad go through dementia the year before, and I was recognizing a lot of the same downward patterns that my dad went through and they just shut me down.
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And, um, and honestly, Glenn, to tell you the truth, I, I do have a business that I run that is a Hollywood business.
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No, I'm just saying, like, I am flirting with disaster here.
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If I had, if I had voted for Trump, let's say my career would be, I wouldn't make another dime ever if they ever found out.
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I did vote for Biden and I did it for that reason, honestly.
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I have to just really do some soul searching and figure that out.
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California, uh, you, your business is tied to Hollywood.
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Uh, and you wrote, uh, an article, how Joe Biden lost my vote.
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And, uh, it was, it was heartening to see, um, somebody that had, uh, taken their own education
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I don't want to go, but I want to know the truth.
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That's a absolutely brilliant way of describing it.
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That I, I, you know, that, that is where, that is where my mind took me.
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It's, it's taken me down a lot of rabbit holes over the years.
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You know, Watergate, the Salem Witch Trials, World War II.
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And, and so when I find that something doesn't seem quite right, you know, I have to sort
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And, um, and I, I feel like that the truth matters to me.
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This is what I've found now in my, my life is that that matters more than just about anything
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except my daughter, probably maybe my dogs, but I mean, it, it matters that, uh, you know,
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that we see the truth, that we can speak the truth, that I can speak the truth.
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I grew up in a country, you know, the left was always the counterculture.
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So, you know, we were encouraged to speak the truth always.
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Um, and now I'm being asked to modify my version, you know, to, to believe a lie, a lot of lies
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And I feel like the only thing that really matters to me right now is, um, giving some
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relief to the other half of the country, to the people who are being treated so terribly,
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um, on almost every level, you know, once I started to get to know this world, I began
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watching like documentaries and the Oscar race, cause that's what I write about the Oscars.
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And I just noticed how they reflect only one point of view and how limiting that was for
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Like they cannot, they can't tell the story of the working man anymore.
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Like they used to be able to, you know, because the working man is going to be most likely
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So, and you never saw, and you never saw that when you were in the bubble.
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And that was the weird thing is when I realized I was in a bubble, I kept trying to tell people,
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And I, I, you know, I've been online for 28 years.
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And I have to conclude that a lot of this has to do with how we've migrated onto social
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media and become these, you know, in our own little ecosystems where, you know, on Twitter,
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And I noticed that that's why I had to cut off the news completely, because I noticed
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that even if I watch one news story on the left, they can completely persuade me to think,
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But it's one thing if you're getting that from both sides, and you're deciding for yourself.
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And it's another thing when you're only watching the one version.
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And, and I've just found that, honestly, the more critical thinkers, the more intelligent
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people, oh, this is so terrible to say, but they're on the right now, you know, they're
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The left has, you know, become a movement that they believe they have all the answers now.
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And the answers are found in ranking people by race and gender, not by class or economics.
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And I think that that's, or by character, right.
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Even though, if you go into Trump world, you'll see it's incredibly diverse.
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And that's the next piece I'm about to write is about that, because I think that it's such
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a crazy thing to watch them stereotype and characterize people that doesn't line up with
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Her name is Sasha Stone, and you can find her at SashaStone.Substack.com.
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We're talking to Sasha Stone, who was a pretty hardcore Democrat and is, and had a lot to
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lose and has come out and now very publicly on Substack, been voicing concern about where
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the country is headed and why she is now defending the people that the left and in particular,
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Joe Biden, in his blood red speech, was attacking.
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Um, I, I, I believe that it's 15 to 20% of the left is hardcore.
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Uh, they want an end to the, you know, bill of rights as we know it and everything else,
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I mean, we have problems and flaws, but they don't want it to be destroyed.
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And in fact, uh, Biden was a bit of a Trojan horse in that way.
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Um, I think that the, the people that have overtaken the party, the ideology that's overtaken
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the party really spilled out of Tumblr, uh, as generation Z grew up and came of age on social
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media and then have foisted their sort of new found religion on, onto the, to the left.
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And they have taken it, unfortunately, and not, it stood up to it.
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And if any of them ever stood up to it, Gavin Newsom or any of these guys, they would do
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really well with voters because voters don't want that in power.
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In fact, that's going to be their, um, their tragic flaw.
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I think are their downfall ultimately is that they have still have to sell these policies
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The trick is what Biden is doing and why I've given up on him and why I'm angry at him is
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that he's decided that the only way they could win is by dehumanizing people and creating this,
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this unfiltered bottomless rage toward his own citizens, you know, and, and say what you
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You know, he might've, he told the media, he told the media, yeah, but he didn't really
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They kept accusing him of that, but he never did it.
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Joe Biden is doing what they all have said that Trump would do.
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So you, you wrote a, uh, great piece on Substack.
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The, uh, semi-fascists are coming from inside the house.
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Um, it is, it's interesting to me that the left either discounts or cannot see, um, the
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fascistic things that are happening like crazy every day.
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It's another violation, um, that only, uh, uh, a dictator or a Thor authoritarian would even
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think about doing, um, how, how, how do we get?
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The people who listen to me are not people on the left, right?
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They demonize me and put me on the other side of the fence, right?
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They, they don't, uh, so I don't know how you break through to that.
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Normally we would have journalists and artists, but we don't have that now.
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So, well, we're starting to, we're starting to get comedians.
00:33:44.200
Um, when you, when you say the left, I'm not, um, I just don't know how you save people
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who are on just on that far left that, you know, celebrates abortion and, and, uh, and
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says that America is evil and capitalism, you know, is brought only misery.
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I don't know if you're ever going to be able to convince them.
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I mean, the 80% that you and I both think exist that are Democrats who have got to be
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And I don't know, I'm, I'm not, I'm not all that comfortable with all of this.
00:34:24.640
Well, I don't know if you watched, um, Frank Luntz had a, uh, a group of people that he
00:34:29.880
was talking to just recently, and they were talking about how bad things are in America
00:34:33.780
and they could sense it, but they couldn't name it because I don't think that they have,
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they can, you know, the media is reaching them.
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And so either they've tuned out of cable news or else every time they turn on the news,
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um, they, they just see what is basically filtered up through the left that you're talking about,
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the small majority minority that controls the party.
00:34:55.840
But the problem is that, you know, it, the way that the left talks about the Trump, right,
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you know, they say the Republican party isn't, can't be saved because the Trump people have
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I mean, funnily enough, that's sort of true of them, of the left, right?
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I have, I have found over the years, whatever the left says that we're doing or that Trump
00:35:19.300
is doing or whatever, they're absolutely doing that.
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They, they self-diagnose all the time, all the time.
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And that took me a while to figure out, but the, but that's exactly it.
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Like, that's really the truth that they're their own worst enemy in that regard, right?
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They're losing the silent majority, just like they did back in the late sixties and seventies.
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Um, I think, like you said, most people are, you know, decent.
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I walk around my neighborhood every day and I say hello to my neighbors and, you know,
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we don't know who we each voted for or what we think politically.
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We smile, we would take care of each other in an emergency, you know, and that's the America
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that I love and would love for all to get back to is just to be able to see each other
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as people again, you know, and, um, and the right isn't doing that to the left.
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So that is why I find myself in this position of trying to wake people up.
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However, I think as I wrote in that piece, they need to have a hard lesson taught to them
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I think we're all getting a hard lesson here, uh, soon, uh, if we don't turn around.
00:36:28.300
Um, Sasha, so what was the thing that, I mean, you had, I know, because I used to be pro
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choice, uh, 30 years ago, um, and I realized I was a nincompoop.
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I, every view I held was because it had been taught to me or I, it was popular or whatever.
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And so, you know, I turned 30 and I realized what an idiot.
00:36:53.040
And so I started doing, um, you know, study and really tried to form, you know, who I
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And it took me about 10 years, but I remember in that 10 year period of, of thinking, I
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don't want, I don't know if I want to be that guy.
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I have, and if I keep going down this road, I'm, it looks like, I mean, I'm starting to
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believe these things and I don't want to be that guy.
00:37:20.700
You had the, um, the other, which is you're going to be a pariah.
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Not only did you maybe not want to be that person, um, that believed, you know, that the
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Uh, but you also risked all of your friends and your business first, how do you, what would
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you say to somebody who's just beginning that journey?
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Uh, and the second part of that is what made you finally say to hell with it?
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Um, well, the first part is that it took me a while to edge over to the right.
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Like I did was sort of first approaching the never Trump conservatives.
00:38:07.800
And I actually met Joe Walsh, you know who he is.
00:38:10.980
And, um, I had a phone call with him once and I asked him, you know, you're a libertarian.
00:38:19.140
And he explained to me that because he believed that the baby had a right to life and he was
00:38:26.100
And that, when he told me that it was the first time I ever really thought, I know it
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seems stupid, but it was the only time I really, you know, I bought the whole thing
00:38:37.480
I was a feminist, you know, I don't, I'm not exactly thrilled with, you know, population
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on this planet and all that, you know, I, not to be too TMI about it, but I bought it
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And I know that it's painful emotionally and physically.
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And it is something, the only thing that I regret in my life.
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And I tell my daughter all the time, don't do it.
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And so I am discouraged by the Democrats treating it like it's like getting your ears pierced.
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And to look at people on the right who care about the, the, the right to life of the fetus,
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you know, is, is, is just to have compassion for them and to understand where they're coming
00:39:21.920
from and to see that this is a deeply held belief.
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It's not, I want to control women's bodies or I'm a fascist.
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It's, I, you know, I think that this is, this child's life matters.
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And it's weird that the left acts as though they care about every life, you know, that
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they, that they really do care about everybody's identity and that they spend so much time on
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But a fetus to them is just nothing, you know, it's, it doesn't, it's not life.
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Like, I don't know that I'm for the government regulating that.
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I feel like that's sort of a recipe, you know, for kind of maybe authoritarianism that we don't
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really want, but how else to get people to, you know, stop and be a little more sober about
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I guess I've just been, I guess I have to come from a place of that Bob Dylan line.
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You know, when you ain't got nothing, you've got nothing to lose to where I can't, people
00:40:27.920
You probably have, well, I mean, I'm sure it's only a fraction of what you might get,
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but, you know, I've been treated like a swarmed and bullied and harassed and called the white
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And, and, you know, I mean the worst names you could ever imagine.
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And I feel like, you know, what's the alternative, you know, staying silent and hoping that one
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day they, they treat me nicely, you know, like that's not, and if it's just about money,
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well, I'm just going to have to take that risk, you know, and find another way to make
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I, something just compels me to move in this direction and I'm not sure what it is.
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And, uh, all I can hope is it's the right decision right now.
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Um, if you would join the, if you would join the, the get them club, um, Sasha, we'll be
00:41:35.340
Um, and honestly, I have so, so much respect for people, even if they come to completely
00:41:44.060
I have so much, uh, admiration for people who will examine the things about them or the
00:41:53.580
things that they believe, um, when it takes them into very uncomfortable territory, uh,
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I, I, there's just, that is a defining moment of when you really truly become in, in my case,
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It's, you know, I do appreciate your reaching out.
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But I, I have listened to you a lot and I know that that's where you're coming from.
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And, um, and it's been an interesting conversation.
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Uh, Sasha Stone, uh, you can follow her at sashastone.substack.com.
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She is writing some very powerful articles right now.