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Glenn and Stu discuss the latest polling numbers in the early primary states, the impact of the Supreme Court's ruling on the border, and the impact it could have on the outcome of the race. They also discuss the impact Nikki Haley's exit from the race and how that could impact the outcome.
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We're talking about Election Day in New Hampshire.
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We heard from a lot of people that were voting up in New Hampshire.
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We also talked to Mike Lee about the border decision made by the Supreme Court.
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He brought in some real problems and some real hope, I think.
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There's too many people saying, you know, we should defy the Supreme Court.
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On the right and Texas isn't going to have to defy anything.
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We're going to see things that never have happened really before.
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And I don't think we're going to have to wait long.
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You know, I think, you know, sometimes when we've been saying that, we're like, you know, five, ten years.
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I think we're, you know, days, weeks, months before we can see how this all turns out, which is great.
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We know we're going to live through it so we can see it.
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You may not be able to see it because you'll be in prison.
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Anyway, so let's start with what's happening in New Hampshire.
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In fact, I would say my impression of this race is one that is moving quickly away from Haley having any impact in it.
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You know, if we would have talked about this about a month ago, maybe three weeks ago, right after Chris Christie drops out, there's a real chance of Nikki Haley kind of keeping this close.
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There's some polling that shows it in single digits.
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You know, Christie dropping out, most of his voters likely go to her.
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So there was an argument to be made that this was a, I mean, it was always a leaning Trump race, but it was close to a toss up there a few weeks ago.
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So what has happened since the Iowa results have come in is it has consolidated, I would say, around Trump and the polling has moved as well.
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I mean, it was even even the polls that showed Trump with lead were showing him with a, you know, 13, 15 point lead in that range.
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So this one does seem like it is moving towards Trump.
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I would not be surprised at all to see this to be real blowout territory.
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Insider Advantage has it at 27 with Trump at 62% of the vote.
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The Boston Globe, Suffolk University, which they're doing a tracking poll, kind of updating it by the day.
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It seems to be moving in the direction of Donald Trump, showing a real blowout.
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And at that point, you'd look at this and say, well, probably this is completely over.
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Because in South Carolina, I mean, it's pretty much of a career killer.
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But he at least won his state against Ronald Reagan.
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But if she loses her own state, that's not good.
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Now, we saw this with Marco Rubio in 2016, right?
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Now, in a weird way, DeSantis is Florida and Trump was Florida.
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So he kind of has multiple home states, which is one of the nice features of being a billionaire.
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Trump is not from South Carolina, quite clearly.
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And there's an argument for her to say, why not stick around?
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She doesn't have, I would argue, the future of DeSantis and the party.
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Or DeSantis has a real incentive to get out of the way, endorse Trump, fall in line.
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It is, once they indicted Donald Trump, once that happened, he became the underdog.
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You know, it was interesting to watch as Trump has kind of done this tour.
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And, you know, of course, as is the way with Trump, you know, he's very aggressive against
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And the second you endorse him, he's very, very nice to you.
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But when he made the statement in a couple places, you know, I'm retiring the DeSanctimonious
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name, the reaction from the crowd was cheering.
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He's still plus 40, 40 when it comes to favorability in the Republican Party.
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This is not a guy who destroyed himself in this race, despite what you're going to read
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And this is not why I think she destroyed herself.
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And that is come right after Donald Trump, be Chris Christie.
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But she took some pages out of Chris Christie's notebook.
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The reason why she is out of, it's not going to work, is she's out of step with the new
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Republican feeling, which is honestly, I mean, the left and the Democrats, I don't see any
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The average Democrat in the middle of the country.
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We have actually become much more, when it comes to wars and things, much more like the
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We're suspicious of the industrial complex, military industrial complex.
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We're suspicious of the government, what we're doing overseas.
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We're becoming what the Democrats, we've moved.
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I don't want to sign up for that description of what we've become.
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I mean, if you were a Democrat, that's the way you would view us on war.
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I'm still for, look, you come and poke us in the eye and give us a bloody nose, we're
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But we're not going to get involved, and I don't want to rebuild everything or anything.
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And we do that a few times and then just leave.
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We're going to teach people the lesson, don't punch us in the face.
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Well, I'm going to have an opinion, maybe, on that, but I'm not going to get involved.
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Right, and I think that is, you're right, out of step with the energy of the party.
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And that's why I'd ask you, Glenn, while I think DeSantis quite clearly has a future,
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might not be the president of the United States in 2028.
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He has not done what Chris Christie has done, and no one would ever want him.
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And Nikki Haley, I think, falls closer to the Chris Christie vibe than the DeSantis vibe
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Where it feels like if she doesn't win here or do something here, her future in the party
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She probably will have some prominent position.
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There's a lot of money in one side of the Republican Party that is not the Donald Trump
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So it's not to say she has no future, but I don't think she's looking at herself as
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So saying all that makes me think that her best piece of strategy is probably to stick
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around and pocket delegates over the long term and hope that Donald Trump runs into some
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major legal problem that changes the dynamic of the race in some way.
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But what's the upside for her to just drop out and go away?
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I don't know that there is one, especially with South Carolina next.
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I doubt he has tons and tons and he has personal wealth, but it does not have tons and tons of
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Nikki Haley could run a bare bones campaign doing interviews on MSNBC for the next six months
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Well, Belger is saying that, you know, there was a concerted effort to get Democrats to
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go out and vote for Nikki Haley and to get the independents who usually vote Democrat to
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And people are just going to if they do go, they're going to write in Joe Biden.
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Yeah, it's funny because the Democrats once again are making Trump's road easier.
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You can think of that what you will, but they the vast majority of voters in New Hampshire
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It's not like other states, because the way that that the registration goes for this primary
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is if you're a Democrat, you cannot come today and register as a Republican and vote in the
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So most people just stay independent and pick the primary that they want to go into, just
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do, you know, figuring out whatever they feel like at the time, the long story on why the
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Mr. President Democracy himself, who just cares so much about democracy, wound up losing
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Iowa, New Hampshire last time and then just deleted them off the calendar this time.
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That's the show of democracy from Joe Biden and the Democratic Party.
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But they have a law there that they have to have the first primary.
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However, it's become a big deal because other candidates filed there.
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And last minute, everyone's coming in on the Biden side and saying, maybe this would look
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If Dean Phillips wins this primary, this is going to look bad.
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So they've dumped money in through super PACs to try to get people to write in Joe Biden,
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which is now taking those independent Democratic leading voters that may have crossed for Nikki
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Haley over to the Biden side to try to get Biden to have a showing there so he doesn't
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I think this is something that is legitimately going to hurt Haley's chances tonight because
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the people who just want to come out and hurt Trump are being told by their people, no,
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I think that's part of the dynamic that's happening here.
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But I do expect Trump to win and win probably handily tonight.
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I think the Democratic part of this is sort of fascinating in that, you know, this idea
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that they had to just eliminate these these states.
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This is the party that is pitching to you that all they do is care about democracy.
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Wherever the chips may fall, your vote matters.
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And this is the party that eliminated the two states that the lead candidate lost.
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They talk about disenfranchising voters and how the Republicans are disenfranchised.
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They will disenfranchise two states, two states, two entire states, traditional leaders in this
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You know, the one that just happened to rescue Joe Biden's campaign.
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I mean, they talk about Trump doing this stuff.
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These poor people in New Hampshire are doing a Democratic primary because they are required
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And then they're just not going to give them any delegates for it.
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Because Joe Biden didn't like that he lost last time.
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Therefore, they get rewarded with the first primary.
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Does anybody notice that every time they accuse somebody of doing something, that's what they're
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Does seem to happen over and over and over again.
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You know, Donald Trump, if he gets elected, he's going to try to put his opponents in jail.
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We all know that you're trying to take your opponent off the ballot.
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What form of democracy has one name on the ballot?
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What democracy claims someone is an insurrectionist when he's not ever, not just been tried and
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found guilty, not been tried, not even charged with that.
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And all of a sudden, they just claim he is an insurrectionist without any legal anything.
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And they did it from day one, too, which is pathetic.
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They knew they could have charged him with insurrection.
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They didn't because they knew they would never win it.
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And then they just started saying it on television over and over again, hoping that they could
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use that later as the evidence to get him tossed off the ballot.
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No, I just keep coming back to, you know, who the real villain here is, is us, us, us,
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us, us, us, us, us, the people who are just dead asleep and are like, ah, nothing's going
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It's just, you know, it's a same old, same old.
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Senator Mike Lee, because I will lead and not follow, I believe and not doubt, I will
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create, not destroy, because I'm a force for good, I'm a force for God, I'm a leader, and
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I need your help today in understanding the news and where we go from here, because if
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it's, if it's not this, it will be something because we're facing constitutional crisis
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And, uh, I'm, I'm not sure how to react, but I know there's a lot of people saying this
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is out of line, we should ignore the Supreme Court, but that makes us them.
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First, let's go over what the Supreme Court decided yesterday, Mike.
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Okay, so yesterday the Supreme Court issued an order, not an opinion, just a very brief
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order, undoing an order that was released by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit
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Now, remember the courts of appeals are, are, um, are numbered throughout the country.
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The Fifth Circuit includes the state of Texas, uh, and, uh, the Fifth Circuit on December 19th
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had issued an order in joining the, uh, Biden administration from taking down barriers put in place
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See, the state of Texas, um, wanting to make sure that, um, they restore some semblance of the rule of law
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in their state, decided to put up these barriers along the border, say, we don't want to do this.
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The Biden administration started taking actions indicating its plans to take down the concertina wire
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So Texas, uh, brought suit against the Department of Homeland Security and others in the Biden
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administration and said, we want an injunction telling them, telling the Biden administration
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The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals on December 19th, uh, issued such an injunction.
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And immediately, the Biden administration went to the Supreme Court and filed an emergency
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And the operative portion of the order from yesterday is just found in a sentence.
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It's inclusive of a total of four sentences, but this one is, is, is the operative language.
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Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit is vacated.
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Then there's a separate line that says, Justice Thomas, Justice Alito, Justice Gorsuch,
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and Justice Kavanaugh would deny the application to vacate conjunction.
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So with that, the Supreme Court of the United States just undid this.
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And what this tells us then is that it was Chief Justice Roberts, along with Justice Kagan,
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Justice Sotomayor, and Justice Jackson, who were in the majority on this.
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So all of a sudden, Texas, having won this round of litigation, the previous round of
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litigation in the Court of Appeals, is now sort of back to square one, being told, you
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And yet we don't have the analysis as to why or what this means, and everything is in a
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So, first of all, can you explain Barrett's joining the other side?
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All I can do is offer conjecture, because there's no analysis.
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Hang on, just a sec, before you go on, is that unusual that there was no analysis?
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It's not unusual, given the procedural posture in which they find themselves.
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In other words, this side of the Court's docket, the emergency applications docket,
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is itself something that the justices have to do as they're doing their other ordinary
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business, as they're writing opinions in other cases.
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And because of the nature of it, it's a yes or no, up or down thing most of the time.
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But it is surprising, given the nature of this dispute and the complexity of and urgency of
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It's at least difficult to figure out what to do.
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So if I had to guess as to what her analysis might have been, and that of Chief Justice
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Roberts, it would be that they reached some kind of conclusion that, you know, we don't
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We don't want to be perceived, certainly as justices, as playing only on the team of the
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political party, of the presidents who appointed us.
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And therefore, I, we, speaking, you know, either as Justice Roberts or Justice Barrett or both
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of them, we're going to decide to side with the Democrats on this one so that we don't
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But I really find that difficult to grasp that they would do it in that circumstance.
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I don't see an explanation that makes a lot of sense.
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Um, because I, I don't understand why it's a bad thing to have the state of Texas trying
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to protect the people of Texas from these swarms of people who are pouring across their borders
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without documentation and destroying property along the way, converting property as if it
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were their own and destroying it as they, uh, as they cross in illegally.
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I, I don't understand what the compelling need is or what principle of law would be violated
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by the state of Texas trying to protect the people of Texas.
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Um, the constitution says that it is the, the federal government's job to protect the
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Um, but they're not doing their job, obviously.
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Uh, in fact, they're enabling those, um, people trying to come in and they are enabling,
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uh, drug cartels, drugs coming over, killing our citizens, criminals coming over.
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Uh, they're enabling those who rape and sell into sex slavery.
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And what the justices are saying is Texas, you don't have the right to protect your own
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Um, let me, let me ask you if a military came over there, let's say these 10 million people
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Um, but you know, only a few of them had guns and it, it was clear.
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This was an invasion by an army and the federal government decided to say, nah, well, they,
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Would they have the right to say to Texas or anybody else, you don't have the right to
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have a militia or, uh, you know, call up your national guard and, and push these people
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And, and specifically in that kind of circumstance, it wouldn't be.
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There are two separate provisions of the constitution that tell us this.
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One is found in article four, section four, which says that the United States, uh, shall
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guarantee to every state, a Republican form of government and on application of a state,
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uh, uh, uh, typically the legislature, uh, uh, shall protect each of them from invasion.
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So that's an affirmative obligation by the United States to protect each state from invasion.
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Now, there's also a, uh, something that defends in the constitution, a separate right of the
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state to stand up for itself upon being invaded.
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And that's found in, in article one, section 10, clause three, which, um, is a provision
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that tells the States a bunch of stuff that they can't do on their own without the consent
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of Congress, but then contains a carve out, uh, for circumstances in which a state is actually
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Yeah, but the only difference in one scenario in war, the only, the only differences in these
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two scenarios is 10 million people are coming over, uh, not in uniform, but that's it.
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And it's no less of an invasion simply because they're not organized formally as a military
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They, they, they were not a military, but it's an invasion nonetheless, uh, throughout
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There have been instances of invasions of, uh, many countries around the world.
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Uh, uh, some are armed organized invasions, others are not, but it's an invasion nonetheless.
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They are being invaded by people who don't belong there and people who, uh, threaten to subvert
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the order of things and the rule of law as they enter.
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So the fact that there is an invasion and the fact that the state of Texas feels the need
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to protect its own citizens from this puts Texas, in my view, in a very solid position.
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Now, I assume that for the four justices who dissented, that is for justices, Thomas,
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Alito, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch, that that was their rationale.
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Now, we're all still grasping to understand what the rationale of the majority was other
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than, as you say, probably reasoned, well, immigration is the thing that is done by the
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federal government and it's not done by the state of Texas, therefore case closed.
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Well, it doesn't answer the, the article one, section 10 or the article four, section four
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And as a practical matter, it leaves the state of Texas in an untenable position.
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So now, Mike, I, I, I, I, we have to have a serious adult conversations and we have to
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start modeling these conversations and having these conversations and, uh, and have them
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as rational, reasonable citizens of a Republic and, uh, as adults.
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And if you, as a listener can't handle that, then you should go away.
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Um, because I think some questions need to be asked and if not now, very soon on whatever
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the next topic might be, you know, Mike, um, there was a guy named Martin Luther King.
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I know, you know, uh, and he, he taught people how to resist peacefully and, uh, nobody's teaching
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Um, but there are people now who are saying, uh, we need to go.
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In fact, could you read Tucker Carlson's tweet, uh, from yesterday?
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I don't have that handy, but I can look for it.
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Basically he says, where are the men of Texas standing up?
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Well, the men of Texas standing up, um, I, I don't know exactly what that means, Tucker.
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Um, because many of us are standing up and we're speaking out.
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At what point, um, do people, uh, are people justified at all to say, yeah, it makes me
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So in other words, defying the Supreme court and just doing it anyway.
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Now, uh, look, uh, the rule of law is important to us.
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That's the whole reason why Texas is trying to take this action to begin with is to preserve
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And for that reason, uh, everything, uh, possible needs to be done, uh, to comply with the rule
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of law, even if it means going along with a, a court order, uh, that one doesn't like and
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finding other ways, uh, to be persuaded to get it done.
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But keep in mind something, Glenn, um, the, the Supreme court's order from yesterday does
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As I read it, all it says is that they vacate the fifth circuits order from the 19th of December,
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which had itself enjoined, uh, the Biden administration from taking down the barricades.
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So there there's nothing affirmatively that the state of Texas has to do in order to comply
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It just lifts the legal impediment from the Biden administration that had previously told
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So one interesting question is what exactly is the Biden administration going to do now?
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Is the Biden administration really seriously with a straight face?
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And, um, and do all that, uh, Glenn, remember something we, we have seen in the last month
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more people pouring across our border unlawfully than has ever been observed in our nearly two
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and a half centuries of existence as a nation and our border patrol agents and everybody else
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who works with them on this, they're all overwhelmed.
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I've been down to the border just in the last few weeks alone.
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And I lived down, uh, on the border in the McCown area as a missionary for two years and
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know this area well, but they're really going to say, this is where we want our, our efforts
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focus to be going in there, removing barricades whose sole purpose is to protect the people
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And frankly, even the people who are being human trafficked along, uh, the border, aren't
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they really going to say that's where we want them?
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Bring up the wire cutters, stop processing everything else, everything else you're doing.
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I mean, what makes you think they won't do that?
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But in the meantime, Texas put down a whole lot more wire and they've got more wire now.
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I mean, it, this really would be a massive undertaking.
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And if after, uh, after the month of December, 2023, just last month, are they really going
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to go back in and undertake that huge effort again?
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If so, this raises all kinds of other questions.
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And if so, I think this could end up being the very best thing, the single greatest momentum,
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uh, uh, producing exercise for the Donald Trump campaign, because this is the president
00:32:05.200
And we've got to make that point loud and clear.
00:32:06.720
So it's, it's, it's one of those shows where I, I, I've kind of given up, you know, and it's
00:32:38.580
Well, it started as a very difficult day today, you know?
00:32:42.460
I would say, would you say Glenn, the country's a bit on edge?
00:32:51.260
I detect the country as a whole, just a tad on the edge.
00:32:59.660
I mean, let's just say, you know, if, if, if the United States was an apartment building,
00:33:06.700
uh, about 80% of its citizens would be on the ledge looking down at the traffic right
00:33:16.840
Longingly at the Hyundai Sonata riding below them.
00:33:20.340
And there's not really anybody down there with a bullhorn, uh, that's saying anything, but
00:33:39.340
I mean, I think this is a, for the conservative, uh, audience, probably a good day.
00:33:48.460
The overwhelming, uh, favorability for Donald Trump and the Republican voting populace is
00:33:53.820
I think well reflected here and probably will be reflected tonight.
00:33:58.720
I mean, there are some reports on the ground from New Hampshire.
00:34:01.320
Oh, actually everyone's showing up and it's going to be, we hear this every single election.
00:34:05.600
I don't expect anything out of the ordinary today.
00:34:09.780
And I am, it is interesting to think about the, this process as a whole though, which is
00:34:16.100
Like the fact that we go to Iowa and then New Hampshire and then like, it's just over.
00:34:23.040
Like I, no one in Texas certainly is voting in this primary in, in a way that it will
00:34:30.800
Um, you know, everyone, you know, and, and that's just the state I'm in every 48 other
00:34:35.200
states are saying, yeah, like we didn't really get a voice here.
00:34:41.300
I don't think we should do it like this anymore.
00:34:45.760
Cause I, I don't know if I'm in the majority or not on this one, but like, I honestly
00:34:48.920
think the contest we're talking about, okay, is a national contest.
00:34:55.020
The fact that you can't figure out how to win a national contest for the primary is a
00:35:02.220
Like we can all act like winning Iowa by itself is really important or New Hampshire is really
00:35:08.080
And it is, but it's a different ball game, right?
00:35:15.000
Um, first of all, you are not a dictator and you can't make all the states do it the
00:35:23.720
Um, but the, the other thing is, is it will keep people out that don't have massive war
00:35:35.020
Let me, let me push back against that a little bit.
00:35:37.260
Number one, it's really, really hard to buy a national primary or let's call it a regional
00:35:43.880
Maybe you do, you break it into four regions and do four different days, but like, it would
00:35:47.760
be hard to buy that because it's too expensive for everyone.
00:35:50.640
It's no longer difficult to buy one of these early states because there's so much money flowing
00:35:57.720
So now you kind of do in a way, push out smaller candidates.
00:36:01.300
I know there's, you know, you get to go to all the counties and all that stuff and there's
00:36:05.160
something to that, but like, you're not going to do that in the general election.
00:36:10.560
It's a different skill set that's important and can be important in certain states.
00:36:15.500
But I would argue Glenn, you know, with social media, the way it is now with access to media,
00:36:27.960
I agree with you, but I mean, you know, let me play the devil's advocate here.
00:36:37.480
Every four years, people show up and they're like, hey, you know what?
00:36:47.260
I mean, some people would go, but you're right.
00:36:52.120
Again, I'd like to remind, this is one of those shows where...
00:36:58.480
But like, I think with the access to social media, more than ever, you have an opportunity
00:37:07.880
Is this process getting us the bootstrapped candidate like, I don't know, Mitt Romney?
00:37:13.540
The bootstrapped candidate like Donald Trump, a multi-billionaire?
00:37:19.940
Because the guy who got hundreds of millions of dollars from China is now the president of the
00:37:24.720
You at least have a chance to see the candidates and meet the candidates, and they have a chance
00:37:39.000
I'm not saying I've actually physically met them.
00:37:43.000
I was listening to some interview today, and they're like, yeah, you know, Joe Biden didn't
00:37:46.660
come here for the primary, but you know, he's been running since 1972.
00:37:51.220
You know, all of my relatives have met him six and seven times.
00:38:01.760
These candidates aren't going to meet the everyday voters six or seven times in New Mexico or
00:38:07.100
North Carolina, which are also important states.
00:38:11.020
Maybe you can put together the same type of organization that can win a general election
00:38:16.580
And using the internet is a great idea, especially now that we have no misinformation and the
00:38:21.200
government is just going to make sure that all voices are heard that, you know, need to
00:38:26.160
I mean, like, I understand that, but I don't think that...
00:38:29.280
That is just as applicable during a general election campaign.
00:38:32.940
This is the thing I hate about some certain sports, where...
00:38:36.820
Baseball is my ultimate example of this, is where you have to go through...
00:38:40.780
I'm just going to hit this real quick, and I know Glenn's not going to understand it,
00:38:43.320
but for you, the audience, you go through the entire year needing five starters, right,
00:38:49.580
Then, you get into a playoff series, and it's a three-game series, and you only need three
00:38:55.080
It's like a totally different build of your team to get through this.
00:38:59.700
Now, this might sound a little bit like someone whose team has lost multiple short series
00:39:04.580
in a row, so I would just throw that out the window for a second.
00:39:07.440
But my point is, like, the person who can perform well in a national or at least regional primary
00:39:14.240
is likely the candidate that will perform well in a general election where they're doing
00:39:19.020
the same thing, not a totally different thing that they're doing in one small state, where
00:39:24.240
they don't need any money, and they don't need to raise the money, and they can go door
00:39:27.180
to door and meet Bob and Karen and everyone else who's going to be at the voting booth.
00:39:31.480
I just don't know the most efficient thing, and I'd like to have a voice in it, too.
00:39:35.000
But the voice of California, which nobody's ever going to California, I mean, they'd be
00:39:42.320
Not enough Secret Service for people to go campaign in California, but that's a different
00:39:50.000
There's nobody weirder than the people in California right on the coast, right?
00:39:55.280
I mean, you have to, I mean, a candidate should be exposed to them so they can go, holy crap,
00:40:01.580
we've got to do something about those people out in California, okay?
00:40:05.120
And the only ones that are probably more weird are the ones in Hawaii.
00:40:09.880
So there's a good reason to take a star off a flag, maybe even two.
00:40:13.080
A president won't know that unless he goes out and actually sees for himself, because he'd
00:40:25.540
You know, I think it would, I will say this, if you had this possibility, you'd have different,
00:40:32.940
For example, what we have in Iowa, people go there, they talk about ethanol and farm
00:40:38.840
Like, what about like pooper scooper policy in California?
00:40:51.460
But wouldn't it be fun instead of seeing people go to the Iowa State Fair, they're just
00:40:54.840
going, we're walking around the streets of LA just with a pooper scooper in a plastic
00:41:01.820
That would be, that's the type of door-to-door retail campaigning I want.
00:41:05.320
If we turn this whole thing around and we look at candidates that have already won and
00:41:11.220
we go back into the booth and say, which candidate should have to now spend his whole time just
00:41:17.000
picking up the poop on the streets in California?
00:41:22.100
I think a lot of people would show, you know, I think there'd be a higher turnout for that
00:41:26.400
I'd watch where I stepped when I walked toward the polls.
00:41:33.080
See, I feel like this would be an interesting change to consider.
00:41:37.460
Like, if you had a northeast, west, south, four days, over four weeks in a month, where
00:41:43.280
it's not, you know, like, it's nice to have a little bit of the winnowing process, I think.
00:41:47.560
But like, prove that you can do something before you have to do it in a bigger venue, right?
00:41:55.900
Do the thing you're supposed, don't do a totally different thing and show I can win in a couple
00:42:00.540
of the small states, do, like, Super Tuesday is a good example of that.
00:42:05.000
If you can win, if you can do really well on Super Tuesday, you're showing something that's
00:42:08.840
similar to what you're going to need to accomplish in November.
00:42:12.160
Winning in Iowa is not similar to what you're going to do in November.
00:42:17.640
Well, little Jimmy Muck and Fudge, who was just running to be president because he was
00:42:23.460
trying to raise enough money for children without eyelids, doesn't get a chance because
00:42:29.000
Jimmy doesn't have enough money for even a regional campaign.
00:42:41.480
And now all those people that were born without eyelids, they're not going to have any eyelids.
00:42:52.500
Well, no, they would, you know, maybe I could give him some of my eyelids because I apparently
00:43:02.560
I would like, if you happen to be someone in America who doesn't happen to live in Iowa
00:43:10.300
or New Hampshire, would like to have some opinion as to what happens in this race.
00:43:17.060
So, like, every time there's three new states, you never know.
00:43:21.540
I mean, I think that's better than what we do now.
00:43:25.040
I think there's a thing where, like, the structures are so well built in these states.
00:43:31.200
And then, like, there's a game plan that, that's why I think it keeps happening.
00:43:35.200
So you want, let's say, we just say, hey, let's just roll the dice.
00:43:39.120
And the first three primaries are Oregon, Washington State, and California.
00:43:43.840
I don't think rolling the dice would be a good way of doing it.
00:43:45.780
I think you'd try to capture some element of what the party would look like or what the
00:43:51.860
So rolling the dice might be a little bit difficult.
00:43:54.180
Yeah, because I wouldn't want California, Oregon, and Washington.
00:43:58.280
I wouldn't want any of them separately deciding who the president was going to be.
00:44:11.720
And you just go and you vote wherever you are, just like the actual election.
00:44:16.440
And people cast their votes for their candidates.
00:44:19.020
What about those poor veterans that lost their legs and can't make it?
00:44:21.540
You want to just take the, you just want to take the vote away?
00:44:23.920
Oh, we're going to mail them, like, 42 ballots each.