The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guest： Sen. Ron Johnson & Matthew Peterson ｜ 10⧸1⧸20

00:00:00.000 Hey, welcome to the Thursday podcast. Today is a really important podcast. I go through, in their own words, exactly what the left has planned through Soros funding a war game that was done on the left that will show you what is going to happen after the election and beginning just well, actually, they say beginning in this last September and it is going on now, but it really will heat up on election week and could go

00:00:29.980 all the way through January. I want you to know this because if you're prepared for what they're doing, you won't, you won't be confused on, on what's happening. You'll know that this is an orchestrated event, not any kind of spontaneous anything. And today's show, I recommend that you listen to it when you have time from start to finish. It is, it is a really important couple of hours that I would urge you to share with

00:00:59.920 your friends share pieces of it and all of it is available at glennbeck.com. It's free to download all of the original documents that I'm going to be talking about here, but I urge you to do your own homework. Don't believe what I say. Look at the original source and you can do that now at glennbeck.com. And here's today's podcast.

00:01:20.540 You're listening to the best of the glennbeck program.

00:01:31.280 I yesterday was amazed at Comey. He didn't know absolutely anything. And the reports that we now have with their own handwriting on it shows that they knew that everything that happened in the impeachment hearing was a setup. They knew it.

00:01:55.780 They had all of the information. They knew Hillary Clinton was behind it. And yet they put America through what they put America through. Why? Because the deep state is too powerful right now. And Donald Trump and anyone who's going into Congress or into the Senate is disrupting all of that.

00:02:20.740 It's not just the power. It's not just the power. It is the obscene amounts of money. Have you noticed how rich all of these people are?

00:02:28.600 How does that happen? You're going to serve and you leave a millionaire?

00:02:33.700 How does a guy like Joe Biden spend 50 years as a public servant and live the lifestyle he has? How are all of his kids wealthy?

00:02:43.120 Most people don't care about Hunter Biden. And quite honestly, I don't care about Hunter Biden either. What I do care about is we're possibly going to elect a president who is the most corrupt that we have ever seen.

00:03:00.620 What happened in China. What happened in Ukraine is sickening. And if it's not ended. We don't have a republic anymore.

00:03:14.700 Senator Ron Johnson is with us now. Senator, how are you, sir?

00:03:20.120 I'm great, Glenn. Hope you are as well.

00:03:22.020 I am. I'm just very, very concerned about our republic in this coming election for what they have planned, because we've seen if you didn't believe in the deep state in 2016, I get it.

00:03:34.060 But if you don't believe in it now, you're not paying attention at all.

00:03:37.480 And nobody seems to be interested in in uncovering any of this or actually doing anything about it, except for a small handful of people.

00:03:47.100 And you're one of them.

00:03:47.920 Well, what I've certainly discovered in our investigations, which literally date back to March of 2015, when my committee started investigating the Hillary Clinton email scandal, and we're the ones that found the extensive editing of the James Comey exoneration memo.

00:04:04.040 Yeah.

00:04:04.460 But what I found is the deep state starts right below the surface and is pervasive throughout these agencies.

00:04:12.060 So just below the political appointees, we have a deep state.

00:04:15.240 These are, by and large, committed Democrats, committed leftists, so that they support Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton.

00:04:21.960 They do not support President Trump.

00:04:23.340 And we've seen them undermine and sabotage this administration from day one.

00:04:29.280 I mean, Glenn, it is remarkable that in two weeks you had two phone conversations from President Trump first to the prime minister of Australia and then to the president of Mexico leaked to the press.

00:04:40.100 You know, my committee looked at at least 126 or 125 in the first 126 days and 62 of those had to do with national security.

00:04:50.460 And these were the leaks that spawned and fueled and kept going the false Russian narrative that then people like James Comey and Robert Mueller picked up the ball and they just kept pushing it on the American public.

00:05:03.440 And look at the turmoil to put our political system in for the last almost four years now.

00:05:09.280 So that brings brings us to a place, Ron, where we we are looking at, let's say, Hunter Biden.

00:05:17.240 We now know through Treasury receipts that that he took three and a half million dollars from the wife of the Russian mayor or the Moscow mayor, totally corrupt, took a transfer of funds for loan payments, which is code for money laundering and shipped it directly to Hunter Biden.

00:05:43.980 We know it. We know it. We have all of the wire transfers from the Treasury Department.

00:05:50.120 And yet the media and and Joe Biden was allowed to say and never corrected.

00:05:56.480 That's all been debunked. It's not true.

00:06:00.020 Yeah, I get so sick of that term debunked when I've said for a long time, the bias in the media is revealed far more by what they don't report versus what they actually the very overt bias in what they do.

00:06:12.480 And so what they first of all, before our report came out, they were carrying the false allegations that Chuck Grassley and I were peddling Russian disinformation.

00:06:21.540 Right. And we had literally hundreds of hundreds of news stories peddling that false allegation.

00:06:26.200 Since our report came out, you know, first of all, they stopped with that allegation largely because there's no Russian disinformation on report.

00:06:34.180 But they just collectively shrugged our reports. Oh, there's nothing new here. Right.

00:06:38.440 I mean, these rumors about Hunter Biden been out there. That's true. And the mainstream media has never covered them.

00:06:44.040 So once we put a little bit more meat on the bones, once we start giving these these, you know, start revealing these documents that, by the way, don't they don't answer all the questions.

00:06:51.520 We don't have access to all of Hunter Biden's financial transactions, but there's so much we did reveal, you know, the three and a half million dollar payment.

00:06:58.500 There's another three hundred ninety one thousand that flowed from that widow in into a company called BAK USA that was also promoted by Andrew Cuomo.

00:07:05.940 Then millions of dollars transactions to and from Chinese nationals with connections to the Communist Party of China, as well as form affiliations with the People's Liberation Army.

00:07:18.460 These are troubling, troubling revelations. And again, the media just saw nothing, nothing new here.

00:07:24.300 All debunked. No wrongdoing. The Senate report shows no wrongdoing.

00:07:28.220 We reveal all kinds of potential wrongdoing and potential conflict of interest, counterintelligence and extortion risk and threat in a Biden administration.

00:07:40.240 So we spent about a year looking at what was happening with Ukraine and the civil society 2.0, the George Soros connections to getting in and wanting to change the Constitution,

00:07:54.960 setting up, you know, what would you even call it, an extra constitutional law authority and prosecution authority over in Ukraine,

00:08:06.820 all coordinated with the Obama administration, all of this stuff that is going on.

00:08:12.860 And now we are looking at the same kind of things happening here in our own state.

00:08:18.720 And and and I look at I look at the, you know, transition integrity project.

00:08:25.680 That is a a well coordinated plan to overthrow a an election if the popular vote goes the way of Biden.

00:08:41.580 Are you? And of course, go ahead.

00:08:43.660 I say we was a complete corruption of the transition process last time.

00:08:49.780 Right.

00:08:50.220 We're going to have our report.

00:08:52.260 One of the things I've been pointing out as we try to do this oversight work again, look at the deep state.

00:08:57.780 It's impossible. It's almost impossible to get documents.

00:09:01.000 And you need documents in order to do decent interviews.

00:09:04.560 And but one of the things I've been doing in most recent TV hits is I show one email that we got from the General Service Administration in our transition investigation.

00:09:15.020 We get the exact same email from the FBI production.

00:09:17.700 What's notable is from the GSA, we can read the whole email.

00:09:21.840 The FBI, it's completely redacted.

00:09:24.880 It's almost 100 percent redacted.

00:09:26.800 And this is after the FBI.

00:09:28.440 I got so frustrated.

00:09:29.540 I subpoenaed their records there.

00:09:31.500 They have just we've just had expired the second extension and we still haven't basically got squat.

00:09:37.900 Gina Haspel has not provided us any information.

00:09:40.480 And one of the main reasons that the hearing with Comey was was pretty successful yesterday is the day before we finally did get from DNI Radcliffe

00:09:51.140 an email talking about the fact that Russia had information that Hillary Clinton had signed off on a plan to stir up a scandal against

00:10:00.120 presidential candidate Trump tying him to Putin and Russia.

00:10:03.560 And that Brennan actually briefed Obama on this, claiming that Hillary Clinton signed off on this on July 26th of 2016.

00:10:12.540 And then that was referred by the intelligence community to the FBI for investigation to Comey and to Strzok.

00:10:20.060 And Comey goes, I don't remember that at all.

00:10:22.520 So they start an investigation on Trump based on George Papadopoulos having some bar talk in London.

00:10:29.200 And so this whole thing spins into a investigation, due to special counsel, eventually into impeachment.

00:10:36.020 But James Comey doesn't remember when Hillary Hillary Clinton actually bought and paid for the Steele dossier,

00:10:41.580 which had Russia disinformation.

00:10:43.240 And now we have allegations that she was actually approving a plan to spin up the scandal. 0.95

00:10:49.820 I mean, this this is mind boggling stuff.

00:10:52.240 And when you put that piece of the puzzle into our timelines, you by the way, you do a great job with timelines.

00:10:57.160 We've learned from you. Thank you. Same thing.

00:10:59.480 We put that piece of puzzle into our timeline.

00:11:02.460 It's pretty interesting. So she signs off on this on January on July 26th.

00:11:06.860 Well, that's the exact same day the friendly foreign government delivered this information on Papadopoulos to the U.S.

00:11:12.600 Embassy in London. Two days later, that information is is relayed to the counterintelligence division at FBI headquarters here in D.C.

00:11:21.000 Three days later, they set up Crossfire Hurricane.

00:11:23.640 Now we're also starting to see that Robbie Mook a month before made his only visit to the White House.

00:11:29.500 Again, these are just pieces of the puzzle. There's no absolute proof.

00:11:33.160 But it raises so many serious questions that once again, the mainstream media is completely ignoring.

00:11:39.620 You know, I'm a conspiracy theorist. I'm peddling Russian information. 1.00

00:11:44.020 I'm a kook. You're a kook. We're all kooks.

00:11:46.280 No, this is serious information. And when President Trump said there was an attempted coup against his administration, he's right.

00:11:52.900 That's exactly what this was. That's what's so frightening about this.

00:11:56.280 And the American people don't know the truth because the mainstream media is not reporting on it.

00:12:00.860 Senator, I have to tell you, I didn't believe I was very uncomfortable with the talk of a deep state coming from Donald Trump.

00:12:07.300 I actually thought that there was a good chance that all this was true about Russia and Donald Trump's connections.

00:12:16.180 And I told my staff, I want you to overturn every stone and we are going to go where the truth leads us.

00:12:23.740 If that means we go against everybody on the right because Donald Trump was dirty, we do it.

00:12:30.400 If he's clean, we do it.

00:12:32.340 There was no one that was more skeptical of Donald Trump at the beginning than I was.

00:12:39.100 I was probably his biggest adversary.

00:12:42.420 What he said was absolutely true.

00:12:46.000 What he said was going on, there has not been a peaceful transition of power since George Bush.

00:12:55.760 That is just a fact.

00:12:57.320 These people have worked, conspired and tried to thwart and overthrow him every day.

00:13:04.680 He has been in office and it started before he got into office.

00:13:09.720 If we don't clean this up, we don't have a republic.

00:13:14.400 So, Glenn, you're exactly right.

00:13:16.220 And this should be outrageous and shocking to the American public.

00:13:20.020 But they just shrug it off.

00:13:21.060 And, again, when they asked the vice president in the debates about whether or not he would support packing of the courts, whether he'd support the Senate getting rid of the filibuster and turning the Senate in the House, he's not pressed to actually answer the question, which is it's got to drive Trump nuts.

00:13:39.940 And, by the way, this is their game plan.

00:13:43.840 This is how they operate.

00:13:45.440 Exactly what they did against President Trump.

00:13:47.440 They spun up this entire false narrative about Russia collusion as a diversionary operation, is what I've always believed, against their misdeeds in the FBI.

00:13:57.920 And it's worked phenomenally well.

00:14:00.060 They did the same thing against me.

00:14:01.940 They literally created an intelligence product accusing Chuck Grassley and myself of peddling Russian disinformation, receiving it from this Andrei Dirkosch.

00:14:11.540 We didn't.

00:14:12.180 It's completely false.

00:14:13.100 They leaked that to the press.

00:14:14.580 And that's where you get 100 news stories accusing us of peddling Russian disinformation.

00:14:18.920 It's all completely false.

00:14:21.260 But they got away with it with President Trump.

00:14:23.840 They're going to try it time and time and time again.

00:14:26.780 Senator, I know you are really busy.

00:14:29.300 I have to break for one minute for a network break.

00:14:31.360 Could I ask you just to hold for one minute and then come back?

00:14:34.440 Or do you have to run?

00:14:36.260 No, I'm happy to stay.

00:14:37.340 Okay.

00:14:37.640 All right.

00:14:38.080 We're with Senator Ron Johnson.

00:14:40.060 You are the committee chairperson for the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

00:14:46.540 So I want to ask you this question.

00:14:48.380 Today, last night, well, for the last three weeks, I've been doing a specialist series on the color revolutions and the way the left is using that.

00:15:01.060 Right now to have a revolution, I believe, in our country, a coup.

00:15:05.880 And I've been I'm today on radio.

00:15:08.800 I am going through the preventing a disrupted presidential election and transition from the transition integrity project.

00:15:17.080 This is so well planned, so well coordinated.

00:15:20.840 They they they are already talking about going to certain members in the National Guard.

00:15:29.160 They have already if you watch the media, if you read this and watch the media, it's all in line.

00:15:35.620 This is a coordinated coup and a coordinated way to change America fundamentally.

00:15:44.620 Is anyone aware of this and planning for a government response?

00:15:52.320 I would say probably not.

00:15:54.780 Oh, geez.

00:15:55.800 Good God.

00:15:56.320 I mean, I mean, look at look at look at how lonely Chuck Grassley and I are in terms of our own investigations with people of our own side saying this is not appropriate use of committee funds to investigate these types of things.

00:16:10.440 So, no, I mean, people have their heads so far and I'll say in the sand here in Washington, D.C. in terms of what's happening.

00:16:16.640 And the left is extremely effective at this.

00:16:19.320 You know, they're blaming all this on white supremacists, even though we know that all these riots, these, you know, the 10,000 demonstrations have turned into it's got to be now over 600 riots in the streets.

00:16:31.400 Those riots aren't being run by conservatives.

00:16:33.860 Those are being run by Biden supporters, by Black Lives Matter, by Antifa.

00:16:38.440 And yet the mainstream media, by and large, suppresses that.

00:16:42.220 You know, they don't show the full destruction in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

00:16:45.360 I still don't have a tally of how many businesses were burned.

00:16:48.820 What the economic destruction was, destruction was, as all the downtown had to board themselves up.

00:16:54.740 It's just, you know, it's the drive-by media.

00:16:57.040 And that is the problem.

00:16:58.340 That's what conservatives have always had is a hurdle in terms of our ability to get the truth out to the American public.

00:17:04.340 When the mainstream media turns a blind eye to it, it's like it doesn't even exist.

00:17:09.280 Senator.

00:17:09.600 I am highly concerned about this.

00:17:11.020 And one last point, because people are saying, because John Durham is not, doesn't look like he's going to report.

00:17:15.180 Because, oh, it might be too politicizing the election.

00:17:18.900 Dear God Almighty.

00:17:20.220 The politicization would be if the American people don't learn what happened.

00:17:25.380 That's the politicization of this election.

00:17:28.480 Senator, I have been warning of these times for a long time.

00:17:33.440 And if you indeed did get anything from the Ukraine special, I am very grateful that our team could serve.

00:17:41.600 But the last three specials that I did, we will send them to your office.

00:17:45.940 You need to see them.

00:17:47.020 And even if you can't get anything done in Congress, somebody needs to speak to the American people with authority on this.

00:17:56.440 Because we are facing a revolution and a coup.

00:18:01.600 And it begins in about four weeks.

00:18:03.980 And they are so well buttoned up.

00:18:08.000 I thank you, Senator.

00:18:09.420 I really do.

00:18:10.220 I thank you for everything.

00:18:12.000 God bless you.

00:18:12.660 Thank you, Senator Ron Johnson.

00:18:14.000 And pray for our country.

00:18:18.220 More in just a second.

00:18:21.580 The best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:18:28.180 Matthew Peterson is the Vice President of Education of the Claremont Institute.

00:18:32.600 And also the founding editor of AmericanMind.org.

00:18:37.700 And Claremont.org is where you can find him.

00:18:39.940 Matthew, I can't thank you enough for coming on today and being so far ahead of this particular topic.

00:18:49.840 We are in real trouble.

00:18:51.960 Is that an accurate statement?

00:18:55.140 Yes, absolutely.

00:18:56.020 I can't thank you enough for being one of the few people willing to talk about this in the last month.

00:19:01.900 We are in real trouble.

00:19:03.480 And what's disturbing is everyone knows it.

00:19:06.480 Everyone can see what's going to happen.

00:19:09.760 And they'll describe it in different ways.

00:19:11.920 But we know that there is a very high probability that this election is not decided on Election Day.

00:19:17.620 That's by design.

00:19:18.640 Changes in voting procedures by the Democratic Party.

00:19:22.040 An enormous push midstream to change the rules and regs.

00:19:24.980 And we know what's going to happen after when Trump and others on the Republican side decide to fight it.

00:19:35.040 And I just heard on NPR this morning, they're already talking about, you know, what will Facebook do?

00:19:39.700 What will Twitter do?

00:19:40.540 And they cut off the president's communication.

00:19:42.720 So this is a constitutional crisis by design.

00:19:46.580 And it's already underway.

00:19:52.100 So, Matthew, I talked to Senator Ron Johnson this morning about this.

00:19:55.300 And I said, what is the American government doing?

00:19:59.640 And what is the GOP doing?

00:20:02.740 There's no one wargaming.

00:20:04.900 They have been wargaming.

00:20:06.480 And in their own words, they say that everything we've seen on the streets has just been dry runs to prepare them for what's coming at the election.

00:20:15.360 We're not—I mean, we don't survive as a republic if there's not another side.

00:20:24.840 Yeah, and what we're seeing is the consequence of really years of mismanagement and, you know, head in the clouds for the GOP.

00:20:34.140 What strikes me is that, over and over again, the debates, everything that's happened in the last few weeks, you see, besides Trump fighting for himself, there's just not a lot of—there's not a hell of a lot there.

00:20:47.720 There's not the infrastructure.

00:20:49.360 So as we said in this editorial, you know, where's the rights, George Soros?

00:20:53.920 Where's the rights transition integrity project?

00:20:56.080 Now, there's lots that the government should be doing, including, you know, prosecuting these groups that are committing acts of violence.

00:21:04.400 But I will say, I mean, it's hard for anyone in the federal government to kind of put together a plan that's flexible and broad enough.

00:21:12.020 I mean, this is really an election-type thing, right?

00:21:15.920 This is really what the campaign strategist should be doing.

00:21:18.300 This is what your Fusion GPS, if you have one, should be working on.

00:21:22.000 But here's the problem, Glenn.

00:21:23.940 We don't have one.

00:21:25.180 We don't have our own groups and infrastructure outside of the federal government working on these problems.

00:21:33.180 And if we don't start—if we don't start to create that infrastructure, we're not only going to lose in November, we're going to lose forever more.

00:21:42.560 And that, I think, is the main problem.

00:21:44.260 So what we need is elites who are, you know, actually people in power on the right to come together and start to work on this.

00:21:52.000 Because we don't have the infrastructure.

00:21:54.760 So let me ask you this, though.

00:21:55.820 There's—that's talking down the road.

00:21:59.420 If this happens here, you've seen—you've read the report.

00:22:04.400 The executive summary spells it all out.

00:22:07.180 Even if there's a clear Trump win, they are trying to change the whole makeup of our system.

00:22:15.580 And if they do win, it all changes.

00:22:19.140 We will never see the republic as we know it ever again.

00:22:23.600 And that's not hyperbole, I believe.

00:22:26.360 So what does the average person do?

00:22:29.440 How do we react to this when it begins?

00:22:32.260 Well, the first thing is we need to be aware of what's going on, and we need to be talking about it, and we need to be calling it out.

00:22:43.200 So that, I think, is part of the effort that, you know, you're thankfully engaged in now, is telling people, look, they're not hiding what they're about to do.

00:22:51.540 And you're not going to hear this from the mainstream press, but it's clear.

00:22:54.940 It's out in the open.

00:22:55.760 Like, the secret really is out in the open.

00:22:57.280 You just need to interpret it the right way.

00:22:59.820 But, you know, I don't see any way around us.

00:23:03.920 We need leaders.

00:23:05.240 We need people who are going to stand up and start organizing for activist-type behavior.

00:23:12.940 And we need activism badly, right?

00:23:15.660 So I was thinking this this morning on the way in.

00:23:18.120 Look, if we called a meeting of all the groups, like the left did, all their activist groups, and said, okay, we're all going to go protest in the streets, I mean, what would that list look like?

00:23:31.260 Right?

00:23:31.460 Who would be on it?

00:23:32.100 Now, we would have a list of some groups, right?

00:23:34.420 Yes.

00:23:34.700 But it would be nothing like what they have.

00:23:37.040 Correct.

00:23:37.260 You know, thousands, tens of thousands of union members, et cetera.

00:23:40.160 I don't see any way around people organizing for a kind of peaceful activism.

00:23:47.820 There's no way around.

00:23:48.800 We have to do that.

00:23:49.740 We're going to have to create activist groups that organize people and that make our presence and our voice known.

00:23:56.680 And we're going to need leaders for that.

00:23:58.200 But leaders are made in situations like this where average people stand up and start to figure out ways to strike back.

00:24:05.360 And, you know, we're also going to need some of our political figures beyond Trump to start talking about this more explicitly.

00:24:16.540 And if they don't, you know, we're in trouble.

00:24:18.880 And this is a time for those in the Republican Party.

00:24:21.760 I know a lot of those moderates are scared right now because they see the purge that's coming if Biden wins.

00:24:27.160 But we're going to have to have some courageous people stand up.

00:24:29.960 And I think a lot of folks will rally to them if they start saying the words.

00:24:35.360 When you say we have to be able to strike back, how do you mean that?

00:24:42.860 Well, I mean that I don't see a way around making a presence in the streets known, having peaceful protests that counteract the protests of the left.

00:24:55.560 I really, I would like to say, you know, something else, something more, you know, intellectual.

00:25:02.280 But no, we're going to need to be in the streets in some way, making our presence known.

00:25:08.280 And then also we're going to need to...

00:25:09.960 But you don't mean with violence.

00:25:13.120 No, I mean, actual peaceful protests.

00:25:15.820 Yeah, something modeled after Martin Luther King.

00:25:18.860 Exactly, exactly.

00:25:21.360 And I think that that would, you know, just imagine the imagery, right?

00:25:26.140 I mean, you saw this a little bit happen with the statues.

00:25:28.760 Some of my friends in Ventura, California, went and defended a statue of St. Sarah.

00:25:35.560 And, you know, they at least prevented the mob from ripping it down.

00:25:39.720 The city and cowardly officials got rid of it anyway, but they prevented it.

00:25:43.640 And what you saw was, you know, families and a lot of young men standing around the statue, and it was very peaceful.

00:25:51.880 And just their mere presence was enough.

00:25:54.500 And when you saw the video of it, you could see the juxtaposition of them standing there peacefully, and then other people yelling and screaming.

00:26:02.840 That's ultimately what's going to be needed.

00:26:04.660 And that's hard because, look, on the right, as we know, people are busy.

00:26:08.700 They have a life.

00:26:09.600 They have jobs.

00:26:10.580 They're not paid to go out and do this.

00:26:12.240 But I don't see a way around that.

00:26:14.560 And, of course, there's more than just peaceful protesting in the streets.

00:26:18.160 There's also the way you can organize online.

00:26:21.600 And I think that we could, in our own way, make it hurt for the other side when they do things that we think are unacceptable.

00:26:30.480 In what way?

00:26:31.740 How do you mean?

00:26:32.280 Well, I think that we're going to need a kind of boycott movement.

00:26:40.780 And it's hard to go after big corporations.

00:26:44.400 But to swarm and make our displeasure known when someone says something or does something that we think is reprehensible.

00:26:53.240 Again, this is not something we are used to doing.

00:26:56.100 We don't want to act like the left and cancel people.

00:26:58.500 But we do, on the other hand, need to have a public voice.

00:27:03.600 An example of that would be, for instance, you had Michael Anton on, my friend and colleague from Claremont.

00:27:09.120 When people issue really veiled death threats against him on Twitter, that means we raise a ruckus and we keep some pressure on various people who have made those statements.

00:27:20.820 We don't forget about it.

00:27:21.800 We don't let it go.

00:27:22.620 But we try to strike back in our way.

00:27:26.280 Now, look, we can't just, we're not going to just do what the left does as a mirror image, right?

00:27:31.560 Our protests would be, in fact, peaceful.

00:27:34.160 But there are ways to do this.

00:27:37.140 And if we don't start figuring it out, we're in trouble.

00:27:40.780 And like I say, it's hard because we don't have the infrastructure.

00:27:44.320 We don't have the billionaires funding activist organizations.

00:27:47.300 And we don't have the billionaires getting all the smart people in a room to game out the war game of what's going to happen and what, you know, how we could move chess pieces on the table, how we could possibly counteract this.

00:27:58.560 And that's what's damning.

00:28:00.240 The people with money on the right are really shameful, shameful.

00:28:05.700 They will be held responsible at some point in the afterlife, I think, for not doing everything they could to protect man's freedom.

00:28:14.780 I cannot believe the way the billionaires on the right really rarely get involved in anything.

00:28:24.200 It's it's tragically sad.

00:28:26.340 We're talking to Matthew Peterson, the founding editor of the American Mind, VP of Education of the Claremont Institute.

00:28:32.920 This really the one way that the right can organize quickly is if it was led by pastors and churches, because they already will be able to say peaceful and their their congregations will understand that.

00:28:47.520 And they will follow those those pastors and they'll follow them into hell if if the pastors have the spine to do it.

00:28:58.840 Do you agree with that?

00:29:00.060 Yeah, I think that's that's a very important point.

00:29:04.780 And I think that people of faith need to realize that this is not a drill.

00:29:09.960 You know, this is this is not this is not an exercise game.

00:29:15.040 The violent brown shirts that have been marshaled for the sake of political power by the left.

00:29:21.100 I mean, it's only a matter of time.

00:29:22.620 We already see churches, you know, being burned down.

00:29:26.840 No one seems to be investigating or very interested in that.

00:29:30.320 Why are these why are people lighting churches on fire?

00:29:33.620 We see this in the margins.

00:29:36.400 But it's only going to get worse.

00:29:38.580 And, you know, it really is ridiculous at this point.

00:29:41.800 We know where this goes.

00:29:43.000 And so if if the churches do not step up now, if they don't start to protest now to to to counteract what's what's happening, then we're going to be in a world of trouble very soon.

00:29:56.560 And we know where it goes.

00:29:58.100 It's just like watching a train, right?

00:30:00.140 A train wreck in slow motion, as everyone's been saying.

00:30:02.400 Everybody knows.

00:30:03.040 We can see this.

00:30:03.640 Everybody knows.

00:30:04.200 We need people with the bravery.

00:30:06.340 And what I would say is, if you stand up, I know so many examples of people in their job, you know, in their church.

00:30:14.340 If you stand up and start saying some of this, you would be surprised at how many people will rally to you.

00:30:20.360 I mean, obviously, it'd be prudent.

00:30:22.060 We don't want people to, you know, just lose their job for the sake of nothing.

00:30:26.440 But there are many examples where you would be surprised if you're listening out there at how many people agree with you.

00:30:34.200 And, in fact, you know, a lot of these people agree with you, but they're scared.

00:30:37.900 So what you need is, you know, there's this ancient Greek analogy, and it comes from Homer.

00:30:46.160 Everyone's in a retreat.

00:30:47.340 Everyone's in a retreat in the Trojan War.

00:30:49.300 And Odysseus stops one of the guys who's leading the retreat, and he whacks him with a stick and says, hey, we're going to stand our ground.

00:30:58.600 And once they stand their ground, all of a sudden, everyone else starts standing around them.

00:31:03.140 That's the way, the reverse of the mob mentality.

00:31:05.780 That's how you stop this.

00:31:06.900 You need people standing up, and people will rally around you.

00:31:09.400 But if the churches don't do that soon, you know, I mean, government already has an incredible amount of power over worship.

00:31:16.740 They don't care about religious liberty at all, and they're going to say, you're all hate groups anyway.

00:31:21.800 We're talking to Matthew Peterson, founding editor of American Mind, VP of Education at the Claremont Institute.

00:31:26.300 I have one more question, but I need to take a one-minute network break.

00:31:29.780 Could you hold just a second?

00:31:31.420 Absolutely.

00:31:32.040 All right.

00:31:32.340 So talking to Dr. Matthew Peterson, you mentioned you heard something on NPR.

00:31:37.140 I heard the same thing, and I actually pulled it for the show today.

00:31:39.780 Let me play it again, please.

00:31:40.920 This is the audio from NPR today.

00:31:42.760 But this time, as Facebook's chief operating officer, Sheryl Sandberg, told All Things Considered this week, you know, these companies are concerned about what happens not just before the election, but also after November 3rd.

00:31:54.260 Both Twitter and Facebook say they're now going to be cracking down on posts that say, for example, voting by mail is somehow fraudulent, posts that advocate violence to disrupt the transfer of power, or premature claims of victory.

00:32:06.400 And they'll do that by either labeling or removing.

00:32:08.640 We should say that some of these kinds of messages and spreading doubts have come from none other than the president of the United States himself.

00:32:18.020 I mean, does that fact complicate things for these companies and what they can do?

00:32:21.640 Well, you're right.

00:32:22.500 We heard this again from President Trump this week at the debate.

00:32:25.760 He suggested he might not accept the results of this election.

00:32:29.060 You know, in the case of Facebook, this company has come around pretty reluctantly to the idea that they might have to somehow moderate what the president says.

00:32:35.500 That's a remarkable piece of audio, especially if you read any of the stuff that we've been telling you I'm posting today at glenbeck.com.

00:32:44.560 You can get it now.

00:32:45.600 The Transition Integrity Project, what they're saying they're going to do and already are doing.

00:32:51.660 They're already in the press.

00:32:53.240 But in their own words and in their documents, they talk about that they have to find a way to silence any voice that can rally people.

00:33:05.980 And they talk about first going to those people and asking for their better angels.

00:33:10.220 Well, I haven't had a phone call from anybody on the Transition Integrity Project.

00:33:15.620 I don't think Ben Shapiro has.

00:33:18.800 I don't think Stephen Crowder has.

00:33:23.120 Can you give me your opinion on the silencing of voices?

00:33:30.020 I'm lucky because I have radio.

00:33:32.900 But silencing of voices online by just shutting down our pipes.

00:33:38.800 We'll still be online, but no one will see us in social media.

00:33:42.200 Do you believe that's going to happen after election?

00:33:45.620 Yeah, I think we know.

00:33:49.400 I mean, let's believe what they're telling us, right?

00:33:51.700 The big tech companies have been nervous since 2016.

00:33:55.620 They were blamed, obviously, for Trump's win.

00:33:59.040 And they've had powerful forces in America going after them every day for four years ever since.

00:34:06.360 Remember, the Internet was great and wonderful when Obama was president.

00:34:10.000 And then when it blew up in their face when Trump won, all of a sudden, digital technology is terrible.

00:34:14.340 And they came down to these companies.

00:34:15.660 And sadly, of course, a lot of these companies broke.

00:34:19.000 A lot of them didn't need much pressure to turn to the left.

00:34:22.900 And so we will see how far they go.

00:34:26.380 I would say a silver lining here is NPR is running this story because they're still trying to put pressure on Facebook.

00:34:34.400 I mean, the reason they're running this story is also to put the tech companies on notice, to keep constant pressure on them, to do what they want them to do.

00:34:44.080 And so that's notable.

00:34:46.380 It's not as if the tech companies are all one thing, but they certainly are not on our side.

00:34:52.380 They certainly know what they're supposed to do and say.

00:34:55.280 And unlike the right, the left maintains pressure on them.

00:34:58.640 And we haven't done that.

00:35:00.280 To the extent we started talking about it, it led to great results.

00:35:03.960 But again, we need leaders who are willing to stand up to them.

00:35:06.900 Thank you very much, Dr. Matthew Peterson.

00:35:08.540 Na, na, na, na, na.

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