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On today's show, Glenn and Pat discuss the Michael Cohen hearing. They discuss the ridiculous questions that Cohen was asked and how it all adds up. They also discuss a story about transgender high school students in Connecticut who are beating other high school girls and getting angry about it.
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Hey, welcome to today's podcast, kind of a different one today, because we were taking the hearing as it was happening during most of the show today.
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And that hearing is is Cohen and Cohen is such a dirtbag.
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We we went over everything that he said he have that he would have.
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We listened to his testimony, listen to the ridiculous questions that were being posed to him.
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Yep. And and I don't think it's going to change anybody's mind.
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We didn't have a chance. We go through all the evidence that Cohen presents.
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And we also talk about a story in Connecticut where two transgender former male, current female, if you understand the narrative, they're racing against other high school students that are girls and beating them very consistently.
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Shockingly, the girls getting a little annoyed about that.
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And when you can understand the Cohen Cohen hearing, when that makes more sense than the story that you just heard, that's that's I as I asked Ben Sasse, what is the state of the American soul today?
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You'll hear that his response and much more on today's podcast.
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I have asked the committee to ensure that my family be protected from presidential threats and the committee be sensitive to the questions pertaining to ongoing investigations.
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I'm here under oath to correct the record, to answer the committee's questions truthfully and offer the American people what I know about President Trump.
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I recognize that some of you may have doubt and attack on my credibility.
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Yeah, every American, both Republican, Democrat, in the press, out of the press, everyone should have deep questions about this man's credibility.
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This guy has been a weasel, I think, probably since birth.
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If you remember, if you remember, one of our problems, in fact, one of our biggest problems with Donald Trump and the reason why we said you can't trust him is because he used to always say, I've got the best people around me.
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In particular, Cohen was one of them at the top of our list.
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And we told you all of the things that were going to happen because of these people.
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Now that these people are gone, it's a lot better.
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But it's these people that have gotten him into so much hot water and so much trouble.
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So what does the testimony of Michael Cohen even mean?
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Unless he has evidence, which they say he's going to be preventing presenting evidence.
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And monkeys will fly out of your butt when they actually when the media starts to get things right on this case.
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Yeah, and I'm glad you set it up that way because it's important to you see that a lot of people who were, you know, big Trump defenders in the media were saying Michael Cohen was a great guy.
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And the media was all saying Michael Cohen was a terrible guy.
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He's the most credible person in the entire universe.
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If if if what he goes to prison for is one one thousandth of the crimes he's committed in his life, I would be stunned.
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So, I mean, you cannot take anything that he says seriously unless he has significant evidence to back it up.
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I mean, look, everyone's going to be talking about it and you should know what's in it.
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And Jason is going to be monitoring in our number two.
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So we are passing the buck and we're giving it to Jason, our head researcher, to just to follow.
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I'm thrilled personally, because you usually have to read like a 500 page report.
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So what we have here is a 20 page document is from Michael Cohen.
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It is reportedly by all by all accounts, his prepared opening statement today in the testimony.
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He's ashamed of the things I did for Mr. Trump.
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I'm ashamed that I chose to take part in concealing Mr. Trump's illicit acts.
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I'm ashamed that because I know what Mr. Trump is, he's, I'm quoting, he's a racist.
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I guess you can, why don't we go through each claim?
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And maybe you can tell me, Glenn, do you think this is going to be effective of the American people?
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He first starts off with the BuzzFeed report, which was about how Michael Cohen was told specifically
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He says, Mr. Trump did not directly tell me to lie to Congress.
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In conversations we had during the campaign at the same time I was actively negotiating
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in Russia for him, he would look me in the eye and tell me there's no business in Russia
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and then go out and lie to the American people by saying the same thing.
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Well, I believe that to be true, but I don't think the American people are going to care.
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Look, we know that he said there was no business in Russia and he did have the signed letter
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Is there anybody, I mean, when people said, I'm not electing a Pope, I'm electing a president.
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What you were really saying was, look, I know this guy is dirty, but I don't care.
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The New York real estate business is known for these things.
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So I don't think, I think to me it matters, okay?
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Americans made their choice and they chose to go with a guy who they knew was shady.
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There were at least a half dozen times between the Iowa caucus in January, 2016 and the end
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of June, where he would ask me, how is it going in Russia?
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Again, insinuating that he was all over this the entire time and then lied about it.
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But again, that's kind of what we know about that.
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Another one that's interesting is he says, you need to know Mr. Trump's personal lawyers
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reviewed and edited my statement to Congress about the timing of the Moscow negotiations
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before I gave it, saying it was not his own lie, but the lawyers actually, I guess, were
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He's essentially accusing the lawyers of intentionally lying to Congress as well.
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He says, again, to be clear, Mr. Trump knew of and directed the Trump-Moscow negotiations
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He lied about it because he never expected to win the election.
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He also lied about it because he stood to make hundreds of millions of dollars on the
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Anything new there that you think would be impactful?
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Okay, he says Trump never expected to win the primary, never expected to win the election.
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The campaign for him was always a marketing opportunity.
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He also says that Trump would often say the campaign was going to be the greatest infomercial
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But again, not impactful, I don't think, on the administration in any way.
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He says, I knew early on that Trump would direct me to lie to further his business interests.
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I'm ashamed to say that when it was for a real estate mogul in the private sector, I
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As the president, I consider it significant and dangerous.
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This is the type of thing where you can't believe Cohen at all.
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When he has these little moral moments throughout this thing, I don't take any of that seriously.
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I think right now he's decided this is the thing he wants to do, which is take down Donald
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Trump with some things that may be true, some things that may not.
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The bottom line is, though, that's his motivation now, and it should be seen through that lens.
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This is a mobster that would say, when I was killing Vito the Shark and Tommy Knuckles,
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But as soon as I had to kill their wives, well, then I really had a problem.
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A lot of people have asked me whether Mr. Trump knew about the release of hacked Democratic
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So this is another one where, okay, this has been one of the big accusations.
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In July 2016, days before the Democratic Convention, I was in Mr. Trump's office when
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his secretary announced Roger Stone was on the phone.
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Mr. Stone told Mr. Trump that he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange, and
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Mr. Assange told Stone that within a couple of days, there would be a massive dump of emails
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Mr. Trump responded by stating to the effect, wouldn't that be great?
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Now, whether Stone actually talked to Assange, we don't know.
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He could have easily been puffing up his chest and being important.
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Stone would lie to Trump to raise his position in the organization.
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But I do believe that Donald Trump is the guy who would have gotten on the phone with
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Stone, and he would have said, hey, man, I just talked to Julian Assange, and I can't
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give you all the details, but something's coming out on Hillary.
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He said, hey, some things are going to be coming out.
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The last few days, things are going to be coming out.
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Remember, the only thing at that time that Trump's team, they say not Trump, but Trump's
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team, and I believe this with between Stone and Manafort, it may have just been Trump's
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team and Trump just saying, hey, just take care of this.
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Remember, the only thing they cared about in the platform was being was going soft on
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And so that's all happening in the same week that this is.
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Just to point out, that does contradict Stone's, the case, the government's case against Roger
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In his text messages, he kept repeatedly saying that no one from the Trump camp was listening
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He said he was reaching out to a guy that was unnamed, but we all know now that it was Steve
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It was never directly with the president, according to his text messages and the federal
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But he kept saying, I'm reaching out to tell Steve Bannon this, but he's not listening.
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Again, you have to understand, you have to put Roger Stone in context.
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He very well could have been lying on all the text messages, too.
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So you can't really, it's hard to get, it's interesting because we talked about this as
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A lot of them are sincerely problematic people that lie all the time in a way that inoculates
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Trump here because you can't trust any of the insiders.
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Any of them that have accounts against Donald Trump are so untrustworthy and been shown to
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Even when they're texting about things that are bad for them or good for them, there's
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Remember, it was Nixon's attorney that said under oath, like on a day like today, when
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And he said under oath, I think the president has been taping our conversations.
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Well, soon as that came out, then they started looking for the tapes.
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And then that's why Watergate broke apart, was because of Nixon's attorney testifying
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and testifying that he thought the president was making tapes.
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But those guys didn't have any credibility either.
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Well, Dean had more credibility than Stone or Cohen, though.
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There is there is something that's really interesting.
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This whole system is already beginning to fall apart even before it is really even been fully
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The the truth is that women and men are built differently.
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The girls who are losing their their scholarships to go to college.
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They're losing them to guys who now are transitioning to be women because they're faster runners.
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In Connecticut, it happened with two girls, two trans girls in one race.
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I mean, so it's really starting to affect women's sports and they're not happy about it.
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And when they speak out about it, they get beat to a pulp because you're not supposed to say
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They just kicked Billie Jean King out of the I don't know, the clubhouse.
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This is like kicking Martin Luther King out of a civil rights group today.
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And believe me, if Martin Luther King were alive, they would kick him out.
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I mean, and he talked a lot about personal responsibility.
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I mean, he talked a lot about being not colorblind.
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That's not what you're supposed to base gender on.
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Remember watching because we were talking about this.
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There are organs on a person, and that's what we're describing.
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And we were watching, this is when we were on Pat and Stu, and we watched a clip about
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And she said, gender is a feeling you have in your brain or in your heart.
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And it's like, well, that, I mean, just talking about your feelings may have value, but I don't
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Then we need to use science and talk about the body, not your feeling when you're competing
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And this is proof positive that socialism will never take hold.
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You'll have to kill millions of people because socialism, as I'm going to explain in my CPAC
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speech, has nothing to do with fairness or justice, has nothing to do with it.
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That's the goal of a constitutional republic is justice.
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As close as we can get to justice, here's what's happening.
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Americans do not want to judge their neighbor and somebody who lives differently than them,
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But for the most part, people are like, look, man, you want to call yourself a chick?
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However, when it starts to affect me and my life, then I have a problem.
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And as it is now starting to trickle down into all of these kids that said, no, I'm for
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But once it starts to hinder your life and your rights, you don't have no one person has
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And by competing, if we're going to put men and women in the same sport, fine, then it makes
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But we separated it because Americans knew scientifically men and women are built differently.
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And you have to reject all science to think differently.
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And they say they know what the outcome is before the race is even won.
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Before they even start, they know those people are going to win because they're built as a
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And these are the kids who have been taught their whole lives that they should be inclusive
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And then they get to this and they're finding out that now there's some problems with all of
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We want to be inclusive and we want to be diverse and all those things are great.
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And it's not logical for these, you know, these are identifying as women, but they got
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That the man unit besides the testosterone doesn't matter.
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But it's because they have a man unit in their pants.
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And this is why we don't have kids making these decisions.
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Those are adults that have been making these decisions.
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Are growing up under those conditions where that is now just the truth.
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I mean, so I, you know, go kind of goes back to what I believe is the, the light in the
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life of, of one Pat Gray and the Pat Gray Unleashed program, which is liberals eating their own.
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But I mean, like, you know, we talked about this a while ago.
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I mean, RuPaul got in trouble for saying the word tranny.
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But of him, a progressive guy going off on this and saying, can you, I mean, this is
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He's a guy who was on Logo, which is like the, you know, the gay cable network for, you
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He is a guy that everybody knew as a cross dresser and someone who embraced these progressive
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Now he's becoming a victim because he used the word tranny, which is not even okay for him
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It goes so far, so fast because there's no principles here.
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Anybody notice who one of the speakers is at CPAC?
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The, I'm sure he's talking about justice and working together.
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The guy who I said 10 years ago is the most radical guy in the administration is not radical
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And with the transgender thing, you know, all across the nation, everybody's trying to
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In Texas, there's a rule that you, you've got to compete, uh, under the gender that's
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So that caused a problem because a girl who wanted to compete with boys and she's on the
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So she's stronger and more agile and, and dominating in women's wrestling, but she had
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to, she wanted to compete against the boys that wouldn't let her in, in Connecticut.
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It's, it's the gender with which you'd identify and you get to compete in Texas.
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Are they doing the hormones because of a transition or is it because of a medical transition because
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So they can't, like, cause you wouldn't normally be able to use, let's say steroids, right?
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And they make the exception for the transition person.
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And that's again, where the issue stands, right?
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If they're taking these things really for any reason, I mean, I think you'd feel bad if
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That's why you get kicked out of Major League Baseball for taking testosterone.
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It's really, truly amazing how the effects are so clear and, and are going to pile up faster
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Once you start rejecting science, once you reject science, I mean, that's why that's,
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you know, that's the meaning behind my last book.
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It's science and it's dismantling absolutely everything in our society.
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You, once you start to dismantle science, you can't go to the moon anymore because two
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Our whole world is based upon science and empirical evidence.
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And isn't it fascinating that they used to throw that around at us, that we're the science
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deniers, and now it's the Democrats who are denying science on whether a fetus is a human
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being and whether a baby is a human being and it's not what's in your pants that decides.
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It's how you feel in your head that decides your gender.
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Now, to be American, if you want to say you're a woman and you're a man, because that's the
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way you feel, and you have a gender issue, okay.
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And I might even call you ma'am, because I don't need to hurt your feeling.
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I don't need to prove anything to you or whatever.
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However, I don't, you know, it depends on how deep this goes and if I, how much I have
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I'm not going to go down that road, but to be polite, I'm living next to a, to a guy who
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I'm going to tell my kids, yeah, he's got some gender issues.
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Just be polite, you know, say good morning, ma'am, or whatever.
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They just don't want it forced down their throat.
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And that means they don't want somebody saying, you're gay.
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No, you can't love another person of your gender.
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Oh, you're living with another person of your gender.
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Well, I don't need to say for some reason, for reasons of power and control and manipulation,
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They must have us toe the line, whatever that line is today.
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It'll be different tomorrow, but we must all learn you toe the line.
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That's a, that's a, that's a, that's the end of everything we are as a species.
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If they win, it's going to go on until they are thwarted a hundred years from now, maybe longer than that because of technology.
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But that battle will continue one way or another, but we are about to be put in a cage.
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I mean, I don't know if you realize 5G, that decision is being made right now.
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We are at the, we're at the height of the cold war with the missiles and we don't even know it.
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Nobody's even talking about it in the next six to 18 months.
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Places like Germany and, uh, Britain and Australia, they're all deciding whether or not, yeah, we can have Huawei technology for our 5G.
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If that technology is put in, China rules all information.
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They have access to every, every single gas line that runs around the world.
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They win every war before a bullet is ever fought.
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I could not be a more committed, progressive, feminist, pro-gay, pro-transgender person.
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But I cannot keep up with the glossary of correct terms.
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It's like a secret club pass where they change it every week.
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But don't give me s*** because I didn't know the right term.
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They're eating themselves and it's a joy to watch.
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The Republicans don't have any leg to stand on either.
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They loved Cohen when he was defending the president.
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Yeah, I like Jim Jordan, but Lanny Davis did not discover Michael Cohen.
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Michael Cohen was in the organization for a very long time.
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And he was on television, being sent on television to defend the president for a very long time.
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We got about a minute before we have to go to break and we're going to come back with more of the testimony.
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So Jordan was just, he yielded his time over just prematurely.
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And then Cummings was like, no, no, you yield your time.
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And he's like, no, I'm not going to let, I'm not going to hear your motion.
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And then Jordan's like, oh, that's how you're going to operate?
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It's just like, this is, this is the show, right?
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This is a, it's a big show for both sides to get out their arguments and say that they're, you know, trying really hard and tough.
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Basically, every time you've ever seen him speak has been a lie.
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So to bring him in and act as if he's credible now is completely disingenuous from the Democrats.
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And it was also disingenuous from the Republicans when they were treating him credibly back in the day.
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You know, what's amazing to me is we have actual issues going on.
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We, our special forces this week, it was found out, are now training for operations against China and Russia and deemphasizing the Middle East and terror.
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This is not about actually finding any truth and anything that is going to help the American people.
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This is a political, and you said it right, show.
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And we're just watching a show while the real moves are being made by Russia and China and the financial and tech centers.
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This week already, Democrats voted against protecting newborns who were born alive so the doctor or their parents could kill the child.
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Now those same people who want us to be able to kill baby bring us a con man, convicted felon, and perjurer to try to tell us this person can be trusted.
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Oh, Glenn, that's too big for a Wednesday morning.
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Monday night in the Senate was a shameful disgrace.
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I mean, I remain optimistic about the pro-life movement in the long term for a whole bunch of reasons.
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But one of the basic ones is there's a lot more imaging technology in the world.
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And what we find is, as people see more 3D images of what's happening in utero, they recognize that a baby is a baby.
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The pro-baby position and the pro-compassion position, the pro-science position, actually are all the same one.
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But America's soul on display, at least through its supposedly greatest deliberative body, Monday night was tragic.
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So, Ben, what does this say to—I think, and I don't know where the cutoff is with God, but I believe in an American covenant that was started with George Washington, and that he will withdraw his protection.
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And I think some of that has been withdrawn slowly.
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But when we can't say, hey, we're not going to kill newborns, and everybody knows that's infanticide, I think that's—I think God withdraws from that.
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But what does that say about the Democratic presidential candidates?
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I mean, what's going to happen to the Democratic Party when they embrace the worst possible position and say, yep, we're okay with that?
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I mean, so let's distinguish between one really big point and then a smaller political point.
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But the first and bigger point, bigger than politics, is it shouldn't be right versus left to affirm human dignity.
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When we believe—the American experiment is premised on the idea that everybody's an image bearer, that God created people with dignity and with rights.
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Government is not the author or source of your rights.
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It's a tool to secure rights that we've already been given by God.
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And you have to affirm universal dignity to understand what America's about.
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Now, the much narrower political point is there's so much Republican tribalism in our country that we're not having a conversation that pretends the 320 billion of us are in anything together.
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And so you had 44 Democrats and 100 people in the U.S. Senate vote against a resolution Monday night that was really just condemning infanticide.
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I'm as pro-life as they come, and unapologetically so.
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But our bill Monday night wasn't actually about abortion.
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It didn't have anything to do with abortion access.
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It's about babies that have already been born alive.
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And we had, I think, six Democrats—I was floor manager Monday afternoon in route to the vote.
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And I think we had six Democrats make speeches, and four of them were just filled with blatant lies, talking about health of the mother in the second trimester, and debates that are messier than what we're actually talking about here.
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Their stuff had nothing to do with the bill whatsoever.
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They were making up stuff that isn't anywhere in the text of the bill at all.
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And I think they think they can get away with lying like that simply because they know that America's tribal enough that people only listen inside their own silos, and they're not going to be called to account because they're talking to people who already agreed with them.
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We're supposed to believe some stuff in common.
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Ben, I can't thank you enough for making this stand and pushing and standing tall on this and firm.
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We are behind you, and we support you on this effort and many of the other efforts.
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You are a guy who possibly can bring us back together.
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And as strange as this may sound, abortion in the end may be one of those things that brings us back together because the left has gone so far.
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They're in the territory of a Jason movie almost.
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Senator Ben Sasse, thank you so much for joining us.
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And you just, you fail to see the important, you have Ms. Norton.
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It set a record for a lot of hits in a short time.
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And that was the tape that was out for the people to, uh, hear and see.
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And people went on the internet, which is a series of tubes that creates information and
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And it goes from one side of, one side of your computer to the other and then over to
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And then continues to go down your street until it leaves your street and goes into the center
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Uh, is, uh, then able to be passed along to other areas of the country through the tubes
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carried by small hamsters who walk the information to the computer that you're designing.
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Mr. Chairman, I would just ask that the gentle woman is, is please instructed to shut up.
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I mean, you have this big moment in front of national TV, this, you know, Michael Cohen,
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you have a very short amount of time and she's legitimately praising the web stats of the
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Well, because she, because Cohen needed to say, hope Hicks asked me to call the networks
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He's working for the president and the running for, of course he's spinning.
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The Access Hollywood study in terms of impact on the election.
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I was concerned about it, but more importantly, Mr. Trump was concerned about it.
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What was the president's concern about these matters becoming public in October?
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I don't think anybody would dispute this belief that after the wildfire that encompassed the
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Billy Bush tape, that a second follow-up to it would have been pleasant.
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And he was concerned with the effect that it had had on the campaign, on how women were seeing him,
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and ultimately whether or not he would have a shot in the general election.
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The $130,000 number was not a number that was actually negotiated.
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It was told to me by Keith Davidson that this is a number that Ms. Clifford wanted.
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Well, you finally completed that deal, as it were, on October the 25th, days before the election.
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I contemplated whether or not to do it, wasn't sure if she was really going to go public.
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It was, again, some communications back and forth between myself and Keith Davidson.
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And ultimately it came to either do it or don't, at which time, again, I had gone into Mr. Trump's office.
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If I could, can I go back to the Access Hollywood tape that was on the Internet?
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It was run on diesel fuel, and when it was fueled up, it would have to go to a diesel pump
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Now there's three varieties, of course, of unleaded.
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Now if you have a membership card to the gas station, you can get more points,
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and those points will then refer to lower gas prices in the future,
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but filling a diesel tank with regular unleaded would be a real problem.
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To actually shed some light, how long have you known Ms. Patton?
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I'm responsible for Lynn Patton joining the Trump Organization and the job that she currently holds.
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Well, I'm glad you acknowledged that because you made some very demeaning comments
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about the president that Ms. Patton doesn't agree with.
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In fact, it has to do with your claim of racism.
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She says that as a daughter of a man born in Birmingham, Alabama,
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that there is no way that she would work for an individual who was racist.
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How do you reconcile the two of those, Mr. Meadows?
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As neither should I, as the son of a Holocaust survivor.
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However, Mr. Cohen, I guess what I'm saying is I've talked to the president over 300 times.
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I've not heard one time a racist comment out of his mouth in private.
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Do you have tape recordings of those conversations?
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I think it's approximately about 100, from what I recall.
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Ask Ms. Patton how many people who are black are executives at the Trump Organization.
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No one ever accused him of being a good lawyer.
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Did you collect $1.2 million or so from Novartis?
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Because they came to me based upon my knowledge of the enigma, Donald Trump, what he thinks—
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No, did they pay you $1.2 million to give them advice?
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They—a multibillion-dollar conglomerate came to me looking for information, not something
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that's unusual here in D.C., looking for information, and they believed that I had a value.
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And that the value was the insight that I was capable of offering them.
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For $1.2 million, how many times did you meet with them?
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I provided them with both in-person as well as telephone access whenever they needed.
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I also would like to bring to your attention the contract—
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The purpose was because the former CEO of that bank had absconded with over—it was between
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$4 to $6 billion, and some of the money was here in the United States, and they sought
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my assistance in terms of finding, locating that money and helping them to recollect it.
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So are you saying that all the reports that you were paid, in some estimates, over $4 million
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to have access and understanding of the Trump administration, you're saying that all of that
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was just paid to you just because you're a nice guy?
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The record reflects that you're not a nice guy.
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Each and every contract contained the clause in my contracts that said, I will not lobby,
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In fact, in fact, Novartis sent me their contract, which stated specifically that they wanted
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me to lobby, that they wanted me to provide access to government, including the president.
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That information, that paragraph was crossed out by me.
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We've seen this movie before we know how it works.
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I do not lobby or do government relations work.
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So Novartis representatives say that it was like they were hiring a non-registered lobbyist,
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I don't know what they said, sir, but that the contract—
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Have you ever contacted anybody in the administration?
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To advocate on behalf of any aspect of any of your contracts.
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I don't know what—I don't know what you're talking about.
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The American people are tired of being lied to.
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They've been lied to by the President's children.
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They have been lied to by the President's legal representatives.
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And it pains me to say that they have been even lied to by his congressional enablers who are still devoted to perpetuating and protecting—
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We talk about this every day, and there's a lot of people that I've just never even seen before that are in these hearings.
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He must be reported accurately on his federal financial disclosure and when he submits them for a bank loan.
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If I may, this has done absolutely nothing but divide the nation into camps deeper.
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If you believe Donald Trump, you're deeper into his corner.
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If you don't believe Donald Trump, you're deeper with the Democrats.
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However, if you are neither, if you're just like, I just want the truth, this is a ridiculous soap opera.
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This is a soap opera that no one would believe.
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Are you the type that doesn't want to get to the truth about the web stats of the bus tape of Billy Bush?
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And I want to bring up the Hollywood, Access Hollywood web stats.
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I think the 70% of this nation needs to just grab the 30% of the nation by the shoulders and say, stop it.