The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Senator Ben Sasse ｜ 2⧸27⧸19

00:00:00.000 Hey, welcome to today's podcast, kind of a different one today, because we were taking the hearing as it was happening during most of the show today.

00:00:09.580 And that hearing is is Cohen and Cohen is such a dirtbag.

00:00:15.460 And it becomes very, very obvious.

00:00:17.540 We we went over everything that he said he have that he would have.

00:00:22.640 We listened to his testimony, listen to the ridiculous questions that were being posed to him.

00:00:29.440 Yep. And and I don't think it's going to change anybody's mind.

00:00:33.320 We didn't have a chance. We go through all the evidence that Cohen presents.

00:00:36.300 We go through a bunch of the audio.

00:00:38.000 And we also talk about a story in Connecticut where two transgender former male, current female, if you understand the narrative, they're racing against other high school students that are girls and beating them very consistently.

00:00:52.720 Shockingly, the girls getting a little annoyed about that. 0.82

00:00:55.300 And when you can understand the Cohen Cohen hearing, when that makes more sense than the story that you just heard, that's that's I as I asked Ben Sasse, what is the state of the American soul today?

00:01:09.440 You'll hear that his response and much more on today's podcast.

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00:02:37.740 I have asked the committee to ensure that my family be protected from presidential threats and the committee be sensitive to the questions pertaining to ongoing investigations.

00:02:46.460 I'm here under oath to correct the record, to answer the committee's questions truthfully and offer the American people what I know about President Trump.

00:02:55.480 I recognize that some of you may have doubt and attack on my credibility.

00:02:58.860 Yeah, every American, both Republican, Democrat, in the press, out of the press, everyone should have deep questions about this man's credibility.

00:03:10.880 This guy has been a weasel, I think, probably since birth.

00:03:15.380 He is a bad, bad guy.

00:03:18.440 If you remember, if you remember, one of our problems, in fact, one of our biggest problems with Donald Trump and the reason why we said you can't trust him is because he used to always say, I've got the best people around me.

00:03:29.560 And they were the worst people.

00:03:32.580 In particular, Cohen was one of them at the top of our list.

00:03:37.880 Bannon was at the top of our list.

00:03:42.360 Roger Stone.

00:03:43.300 Roger Stone was at the top of the list.

00:03:46.300 You had Manafort.

00:03:47.920 And we told you all of the things that were going to happen because of these people.

00:03:54.740 Now that these people are gone, it's a lot better.

00:03:58.840 But it's these people that have gotten him into so much hot water and so much trouble.

00:04:03.880 They were not trustworthy then.

00:04:06.240 They're not trustworthy now.

00:04:07.940 So what does the testimony of Michael Cohen even mean?

00:04:14.720 Nothing, nothing.

00:04:16.320 Unless he has evidence, which they say he's going to be preventing presenting evidence.

00:04:23.840 You know, we'll wait and see.

00:04:25.720 I've heard a lot of things, too.

00:04:27.300 And monkeys will fly out of your butt when they actually when the media starts to get things right on this case.

00:04:34.160 So what is he going to be talking about today?

00:04:36.760 Yeah, and I'm glad you set it up that way because it's important to you see that a lot of people who were, you know, big Trump defenders in the media were saying Michael Cohen was a great guy.

00:04:48.280 And now they're saying he's a terrible guy.

00:04:50.160 And the media was all saying Michael Cohen was a terrible guy.

00:04:53.060 And now they're saying he's a great guy.

00:04:54.660 Now they're all over him.

00:04:55.720 He's the most credible person in the entire universe.

00:04:58.000 He has never been credible.

00:04:59.900 If if if what he goes to prison for is one one thousandth of the crimes he's committed in his life, I would be stunned.

00:05:06.040 Me, too.

00:05:06.860 So, I mean, you cannot take anything that he says seriously unless he has significant evidence to back it up.

00:05:16.320 But maybe we should go through this.

00:05:17.760 I mean, look, everyone's going to be talking about it and you should know what's in it.

00:05:20.900 And we have we have Jason Buttrill in with us.

00:05:24.600 And Jason is going to be monitoring in our number two.

00:05:29.620 He's going to be monitoring the testimony.

00:05:31.980 So he's listening.

00:05:33.200 It's so so we don't have to.

00:05:35.400 And we're having where you have this show.

00:05:38.300 So you don't have to do it.

00:05:39.620 So we are passing the buck and we're giving it to Jason, our head researcher, to just to follow.

00:05:45.400 And we'll break in if there's anything big.

00:05:47.920 I'm thrilled personally, because you usually have to read like a 500 page report.

00:05:50.960 I just have to listen to it.

00:05:52.220 So what we have here is a 20 page document is from Michael Cohen.

00:05:58.160 It is reportedly by all by all accounts, his prepared opening statement today in the testimony.

00:06:06.600 So he says he's ashamed.

00:06:08.440 He's ashamed of his failings.

00:06:09.920 He's ashamed of his weakness.

00:06:11.200 He's ashamed of his misplaced loyalty.

00:06:13.480 He's ashamed of the things I did for Mr. Trump.

00:06:15.960 I'm ashamed that I chose to take part in concealing Mr. Trump's illicit acts.

00:06:20.540 I'm ashamed that because I know what Mr. Trump is, he's, I'm quoting, he's a racist.

00:06:25.740 He's a con man.

00:06:26.980 He's a cheat.

00:06:27.940 And that's kind of the setup of it.

00:06:29.000 I guess you can, why don't we go through each claim?

00:06:31.040 Sure.

00:06:31.180 And maybe you can tell me, Glenn, do you think this is going to be effective of the American people?

00:06:36.020 How do they react to this?

00:06:37.120 Yep.

00:06:37.220 All right.

00:06:38.360 I'll go to, let's start here.

00:06:41.600 He first starts off with the BuzzFeed report, which was about how Michael Cohen was told specifically

00:06:47.080 from Donald Trump to lie to Congress.

00:06:49.960 Uh, Cohen refutes that at some level.

00:06:53.260 He says, Mr. Trump did not directly tell me to lie to Congress.

00:06:55.560 That's not how he operates.

00:06:56.920 In conversations we had during the campaign at the same time I was actively negotiating

00:07:00.740 in Russia for him, he would look me in the eye and tell me there's no business in Russia

00:07:05.100 and then go out and lie to the American people by saying the same thing.

00:07:08.560 In his way, he was telling me to lie.

00:07:10.600 Well, I believe that to be true, but I don't think the American people are going to care.

00:07:18.120 And we've, this has already come out, right?

00:07:19.960 Look, we know that he said there was no business in Russia and he did have the signed letter

00:07:24.240 of intent.

00:07:24.660 That's all come out.

00:07:25.480 Is there anybody, I mean, when people said, I'm not electing a Pope, I'm electing a president.

00:07:31.740 Yeah.

00:07:32.540 What you were really saying was, look, I know this guy is dirty, but I don't care.

00:07:39.420 The New York real estate business is known for these things.

00:07:41.960 It's shady, it's dirty.

00:07:43.660 So I don't think, I think to me it matters, okay?

00:07:47.140 But it mattered during the election.

00:07:49.460 Americans made their choice and they chose to go with a guy who they knew was shady.

00:07:56.560 It's been priced in, right?

00:07:57.760 Yeah.

00:07:57.980 So I don't think this is going to matter.

00:07:59.820 Okay.

00:08:00.280 There were at least a half dozen times between the Iowa caucus in January, 2016 and the end

00:08:04.680 of June, where he would ask me, how is it going in Russia?

00:08:07.220 Again, insinuating that he was all over this the entire time and then lied about it.

00:08:11.680 But again, that's kind of what we know about that.

00:08:15.500 Another one that's interesting is he says, you need to know Mr. Trump's personal lawyers

00:08:19.640 reviewed and edited my statement to Congress about the timing of the Moscow negotiations

00:08:23.780 before I gave it, saying it was not his own lie, but the lawyers actually, I guess, were

00:08:31.460 part of this.

00:08:32.660 He's essentially accusing the lawyers of intentionally lying to Congress as well.

00:08:37.920 They're approving his statements.

00:08:39.260 He says, again, to be clear, Mr. Trump knew of and directed the Trump-Moscow negotiations

00:08:44.800 throughout the campaign and lied about it.

00:08:46.700 He lied about it because he never expected to win the election.

00:08:49.460 He also lied about it because he stood to make hundreds of millions of dollars on the

00:08:52.500 Moscow real estate project.

00:08:54.200 Anything new there that you think would be impactful?

00:08:56.960 Nope.

00:08:57.160 Yeah, I don't think so either.

00:08:57.980 Nope.

00:08:58.860 Okay.

00:08:59.240 You're the one who raised your hand.

00:09:00.600 The other attorneys did not.

00:09:02.340 You raised your hand.

00:09:03.220 Okay, he says Trump never expected to win the primary, never expected to win the election.

00:09:09.140 The campaign for him was always a marketing opportunity.

00:09:11.700 I agree with that.

00:09:12.680 He also says that Trump would often say the campaign was going to be the greatest infomercial

00:09:17.180 in political history.

00:09:18.320 I agree with that.

00:09:19.800 But again, not impactful, I don't think, on the administration in any way.

00:09:23.460 He says, I knew early on that Trump would direct me to lie to further his business interests.

00:09:28.940 I'm ashamed to say that when it was for a real estate mogul in the private sector, I

00:09:32.420 considered it trivial.

00:09:33.440 As the president, I consider it significant and dangerous.

00:09:36.220 I don't believe that at all.

00:09:37.340 This is the type of thing where you can't believe Cohen at all.

00:09:39.720 No, I don't believe him at all.

00:09:40.500 Lying is his first language. 0.99

00:09:42.320 Yeah.

00:09:42.580 His first.

00:09:43.520 And he has no credibility.

00:09:45.020 When he has these little moral moments throughout this thing, I don't take any of that seriously.

00:09:49.640 I think right now he's decided this is the thing he wants to do, which is take down Donald

00:09:55.100 Trump with some things that may be true, some things that may not.

00:09:57.680 The bottom line is, though, that's his motivation now, and it should be seen through that lens.

00:10:01.580 This is a mobster that would say, when I was killing Vito the Shark and Tommy Knuckles,

00:10:11.500 I didn't have a problem with it.

00:10:13.160 But as soon as I had to kill their wives, well, then I really had a problem. 0.96

00:10:18.460 Look, killing is killing, man.

00:10:20.000 Killing is killing.

00:10:21.980 Tommy Knuckles.

00:10:22.800 I like that.

00:10:23.400 Okay.

00:10:23.820 A lot of people have asked me whether Mr. Trump knew about the release of hacked Democratic

00:10:27.460 National Committee emails ahead of time.

00:10:29.660 The answer is yes.

00:10:31.660 So this is another one where, okay, this has been one of the big accusations.

00:10:34.580 Is there any evidence to this?

00:10:36.220 Here's what he says.

00:10:36.920 In July 2016, days before the Democratic Convention, I was in Mr. Trump's office when

00:10:40.900 his secretary announced Roger Stone was on the phone.

00:10:43.340 Mr. Trump put Mr. Stone on the speakerphone.

00:10:46.040 Mr. Stone told Mr. Trump that he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange, and

00:10:50.680 Mr. Assange told Stone that within a couple of days, there would be a massive dump of emails

00:10:54.920 that would damage Hillary Clinton's campaign. 1.00

00:10:57.240 Mr. Trump responded by stating to the effect, wouldn't that be great?

00:11:01.040 I believe that.

00:11:02.460 You believe that happened?

00:11:03.320 Yeah.

00:11:04.020 Now, whether Stone actually talked to Assange, we don't know.

00:11:08.280 Yeah.

00:11:08.500 He could have easily been puffing up his chest and being important.

00:11:11.320 Because Stone is a liar.

00:11:11.920 Stone's also.

00:11:12.660 Stone is a guy who.

00:11:13.660 Stone is Cohen.

00:11:14.460 Stone would lie to Trump to raise his position in the organization.

00:11:21.660 So I don't know if Stone is lying or not.

00:11:24.780 He may have.

00:11:25.660 He may not have.

00:11:26.680 But I do believe that Donald Trump is the guy who would have gotten on the phone with

00:11:31.780 Stone, and he would have said, hey, man, I just talked to Julian Assange, and I can't

00:11:35.680 give you all the details, but something's coming out on Hillary. 0.58

00:11:39.760 Wouldn't that be great?

00:11:41.060 And that fits what happened in the timeline.

00:11:44.380 It fits with him.

00:11:45.640 Remember the press conference he gave?

00:11:47.380 He said, hey, some things are going to be coming out.

00:11:50.420 Remember that?

00:11:51.560 The last few days, things are going to be coming out.

00:11:53.560 So, yeah, it looks like that.

00:11:55.500 Also, it fits to me.

00:11:57.680 Remember, the only thing at that time that Trump's team, they say not Trump, but Trump's

00:12:04.920 team, and I believe this with between Stone and Manafort, it may have just been Trump's

00:12:11.160 team and Trump just saying, hey, just take care of this.

00:12:14.200 Let's just make sure we're friendly.

00:12:17.000 Remember, the only thing they cared about in the platform was being was going soft on

00:12:21.300 Russia's policy for the Ukraine.

00:12:24.240 Remember?

00:12:24.940 I do remember that story.

00:12:26.240 And so that's all happening in the same week that this is.

00:12:30.780 Is it going to matter?

00:12:32.260 No.

00:12:32.920 It didn't matter then.

00:12:34.820 It won't matter now.

00:12:36.840 Just to point out, that does contradict Stone's, the case, the government's case against Roger

00:12:41.920 Stone.

00:12:42.380 In his text messages, he kept repeatedly saying that no one from the Trump camp was listening

00:12:47.760 to him as far as Assange's emails.

00:12:50.100 He said he was reaching out to a guy that was unnamed, but we all know now that it was Steve

00:12:53.680 Bannon.

00:12:54.560 That was his contact.

00:12:55.680 It was never directly with the president, according to his text messages and the federal

00:12:59.960 government's indictment.

00:13:01.120 But he kept saying, I'm reaching out to tell Steve Bannon this, but he's not listening.

00:13:05.940 No one will listen to me on this.

00:13:08.560 Again, you have to understand, you have to put Roger Stone in context.

00:13:12.280 He very well could have been lying on all the text messages, too.

00:13:14.740 He lies all the time.

00:13:16.940 That's all he does.

00:13:17.720 So you can't really, it's hard to get, it's interesting because we talked about this as

00:13:21.200 people surrounding Trump during the campaign.

00:13:23.700 A lot of them are sincerely problematic people that lie all the time in a way that inoculates

00:13:29.180 Trump here because you can't trust any of the insiders.

00:13:32.100 Any of them that have accounts against Donald Trump are so untrustworthy and been shown to

00:13:36.500 be so untrustworthy so many times.

00:13:38.360 You can't believe any of their claims.

00:13:39.500 Even when they're texting about things that are bad for them or good for them, there's

00:13:43.620 always an agenda behind it.

00:13:45.460 Remember, it was Nixon's attorney that said under oath, like on a day like today, when

00:13:52.660 they really didn't have anything.

00:13:54.580 And he said under oath, I think the president has been taping our conversations.

00:14:00.040 Well, soon as that came out, then they started looking for the tapes.

00:14:04.600 Right.

00:14:04.680 And then that's why Watergate broke apart, was because of Nixon's attorney testifying

00:14:12.900 and testifying that he thought the president was making tapes.

00:14:16.780 But those guys didn't have any credibility either.

00:14:19.880 They had no credibility.

00:14:21.620 Well, Dean had more credibility than Stone or Cohen, though.

00:14:23.920 Oh, yeah.

00:14:25.080 Absolutely.

00:14:25.980 But they all went to jail.

00:14:29.740 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:14:34.680 Pat Gray is joining us now.

00:14:40.100 There is there is something that's really interesting.

00:14:44.160 This whole system is already beginning to fall apart even before it is really even been fully

00:14:50.540 implemented.

00:14:51.120 And that is now with transgender. 0.99

00:14:54.360 The the truth is that women and men are built differently.

00:15:00.060 That's science.

00:15:01.520 Wow.

00:15:02.040 Did you hear that on the radio?

00:15:04.000 You know, we said I did.

00:15:05.640 I did.

00:15:06.260 Yeah.

00:15:06.380 So they're built differently.

00:15:07.940 And now who's suffering?

00:15:10.320 The girls in school.

00:15:12.420 The girls who are losing their their scholarships to go to college.

00:15:17.000 They're losing them to guys who now are transitioning to be women because they're faster runners.

00:15:24.160 And they don't think that's fair.

00:15:27.480 What a surprise.

00:15:29.380 In Connecticut, it happened with two girls, two trans girls in one race.

00:15:36.180 The top two winners were both transgender.

00:15:40.520 I mean, so it's really starting to affect women's sports and they're not happy about it. 1.00

00:15:46.200 And when they speak out about it, they get beat to a pulp because you're not supposed to say

00:15:51.080 anything.

00:15:51.520 They just kicked Billie Jean King out of the I don't know, the clubhouse. 1.00

00:15:54.820 Martina Navratilova.

00:15:56.100 No, Billie Jean King.

00:15:57.260 Billie Jean too.

00:15:58.000 Yeah.

00:15:58.340 Billie Jean King this week.

00:15:59.700 Wow.

00:15:59.840 Martina Navratilova.

00:16:01.380 Last week.

00:16:02.060 Last week.

00:16:02.760 Yeah.

00:16:02.920 So they are that's that's incredible.

00:16:05.420 And these are people who stood.

00:16:07.120 They were pioneers.

00:16:08.020 They were.

00:16:08.420 This is like kicking Martin Luther King out of a civil rights group today.

00:16:12.800 Right.

00:16:13.020 And believe me, if Martin Luther King were alive, they would kick him out.

00:16:17.980 It's probably true.

00:16:19.320 First of all, he was way too religious.

00:16:20.820 That guy.

00:16:21.320 Yes.

00:16:23.000 Reverend before his name.

00:16:24.380 Yeah.

00:16:24.560 Yeah.

00:16:24.700 Yeah.

00:16:24.900 That's unbelievable.

00:16:26.160 Yeah.

00:16:26.460 I mean, and he talked a lot about personal responsibility.

00:16:29.280 I mean, he talked a lot about being not colorblind.

00:16:34.620 It's wrong now to be colorblind.

00:16:37.240 Yeah.

00:16:37.800 Wait a minute.

00:16:38.260 I thought that was the point.

00:16:40.240 You thought wrong.

00:16:41.140 Yeah.

00:16:41.460 And gender is about identity and feelings.

00:16:45.320 Feelings.

00:16:46.520 It's something that Morris Albert sings about.

00:16:49.900 That's not what you're supposed to base gender on. 1.00

00:16:52.720 Right.

00:16:53.320 I remember that.

00:16:54.040 Come on.

00:16:54.920 Remember watching because we were talking about this.

00:16:57.340 What's the difference here between gender? 1.00

00:16:59.560 We're describing something, right?

00:17:00.980 There are organs on a person, and that's what we're describing.

00:17:03.120 And they seem to be describing something else.

00:17:05.000 And we were watching, this is when we were on Pat and Stu, and we watched a clip about

00:17:08.220 Ellen talking about it.

00:17:09.540 And she said, gender is a feeling you have in your brain or in your heart. 0.57

00:17:16.780 That's right.

00:17:17.280 And it's like, well, that, I mean, just talking about your feelings may have value, but I don't

00:17:22.440 think it has value in this conversation.

00:17:23.860 Well, wait a minute.

00:17:24.280 If that is true, fine.

00:17:27.780 Then we need to use science and talk about the body, not your feeling when you're competing

00:17:33.680 with sports.

00:17:35.480 You're only hurting the girls.

00:17:38.240 You're hurting the girls.

00:17:39.840 And this is proof positive that socialism will never take hold.

00:17:46.680 You'll have to kill millions of people because socialism, as I'm going to explain in my CPAC

00:17:51.940 speech, has nothing to do with fairness or justice, has nothing to do with it.

00:17:58.020 Okay?

00:17:58.260 That's not its goal.

00:17:59.700 That's the goal of the free market system.

00:18:02.340 That's the goal of a constitutional republic is justice.

00:18:05.940 As close as we can get to justice, here's what's happening.

00:18:10.020 Americans are fair.

00:18:12.740 Americans are open.

00:18:14.500 Americans do not want to judge their neighbor and somebody who lives differently than them,

00:18:20.640 for the most part.

00:18:21.840 There are bigots on both sides.

00:18:24.480 Okay.

00:18:25.160 But for the most part, people are like, look, man, you want to call yourself a chick?

00:18:28.640 Call yourself a chick?

00:18:29.680 Whatever.

00:18:30.180 If you want to live like a woman, fine. 1.00

00:18:32.400 Do it.

00:18:33.400 I don't have a problem with that.

00:18:34.880 However, when it starts to affect me and my life, then I have a problem.

00:18:43.840 As you should.

00:18:44.700 Right.

00:18:45.060 And as it is now starting to trickle down into all of these kids that said, no, I'm for

00:18:53.220 fairness.

00:18:54.540 Well, yes, so are conservatives.

00:18:57.740 So are constitutional libertarians.

00:19:00.900 We are for being fair and open and decent.

00:19:05.480 But once it starts to hinder your life and your rights, you don't have no one person has

00:19:13.780 a right to trample on the rights of another.

00:19:15.640 And by competing, if we're going to put men and women in the same sport, fine, then it makes 0.53

00:19:22.220 no difference.

00:19:23.120 But we separated it because Americans knew scientifically men and women are built differently.

00:19:31.980 They just are.

00:19:33.300 And you have to reject all science to think differently.

00:19:36.680 And so we separated them.

00:19:38.360 So it would be fair.

00:19:40.320 So the girls could win. 1.00

00:19:41.840 What are the girls saying now in Connecticut? 0.80

00:19:44.120 They're losing out on scholarships there.

00:19:47.140 It's just unfair.

00:19:47.980 And they say they know what the outcome is before the race is even won.

00:19:52.300 Yes.

00:19:53.140 Before they even start, they know those people are going to win because they're built as a

00:20:00.360 man.

00:20:01.300 And so they're going to win.

00:20:02.580 And they said, every race, it's the same.

00:20:04.700 Why are we even racing?

00:20:07.240 Yeah.

00:20:07.660 And these are the kids who have been taught their whole lives that they should be inclusive

00:20:11.560 and they want to be.

00:20:12.640 They should be diverse and they want to be.

00:20:14.540 And then they get to this and they're finding out that now there's some problems with all of

00:20:20.700 that.

00:20:20.960 Yeah.

00:20:21.100 We want to be inclusive and we want to be diverse and all those things are great.

00:20:24.780 But there's also fact.

00:20:27.440 There's also science and reason and logic.

00:20:30.100 And it's not logical for these, you know, these are identifying as women, but they got 0.98

00:20:35.280 a man unit in their pants.

00:20:36.680 That makes it different.

00:20:37.820 It does a test.

00:20:38.540 It makes it different.

00:20:39.880 That the man unit besides the testosterone doesn't matter.

00:20:44.900 It's the muscle mass and the bone structure.

00:20:47.460 But it's because they have a man unit in their pants. 0.99

00:20:49.140 They have a different muscle structure.

00:20:50.960 Correct.

00:20:51.320 And this is why we don't have kids making these decisions.

00:20:53.200 They eat paste.

00:20:54.040 Right.

00:20:54.200 Like this is not.

00:20:55.900 Yeah.

00:20:56.260 Tide pods.

00:20:56.700 Thank you.

00:20:57.280 It's like, you know, I got news for you.

00:20:58.860 It's, it's not kids making this decision.

00:21:01.660 Those are adults that have been making these decisions.

00:21:03.940 Right.

00:21:04.140 But the kids have been grown up.

00:21:05.640 Yes.

00:21:05.920 Are growing up under those conditions where that is now just the truth.

00:21:09.240 They've bought into all that.

00:21:10.500 They've bought into it.

00:21:11.300 But now it's affecting them.

00:21:12.660 Yeah.

00:21:12.960 I mean, so I, you know, go kind of goes back to what I believe is the, the light in the

00:21:17.540 life of, of one Pat Gray and the Pat Gray Unleashed program, which is liberals eating their own.

00:21:21.940 And you watch this kind of go on.

00:21:23.820 It's fun.

00:21:24.120 It is fun at some level.

00:21:26.020 But I mean, like, you know, we talked about this a while ago.

00:21:27.960 I mean, RuPaul got in trouble for saying the word tranny.

00:21:32.340 Yes.

00:21:32.740 RuPaul.

00:21:33.680 Jeez.

00:21:33.960 We played the clip of Patton Oswalt.

00:21:35.200 I don't think we have it around anymore.

00:21:36.460 But of him, a progressive guy going off on this and saying, can you, I mean, this is

00:21:40.700 a guy who, who blazed paths.

00:21:43.960 He's a guy who was on Logo, which is like the, you know, the gay cable network for, you

00:21:49.240 know, gay programming.

00:21:50.300 He was had a big show on that network.

00:21:52.480 He is a guy that everybody knew as a cross dresser and someone who embraced these progressive

00:21:57.920 values.

00:21:58.640 Now he's becoming a victim because he used the word tranny, which is not even okay for him

00:22:03.000 to use.

00:22:03.580 It goes so far, so fast because there's no principles here.

00:22:07.380 It's all a moving target.

00:22:08.840 It's all emotion.

00:22:09.560 And it's all emotion.

00:22:10.420 Let me ask you this.

00:22:12.260 Anybody notice who one of the speakers is at CPAC?

00:22:17.240 Glenn Beck?

00:22:18.260 No.

00:22:19.920 Van Jones.

00:22:21.000 Oh, yeah.

00:22:21.420 What?

00:22:21.940 Yeah.

00:22:22.580 Van.

00:22:23.120 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:22:24.080 Jones.

00:22:24.800 Which is an amazing world.

00:22:26.160 Glenn Beck and Van Jones on the stage at CPAC.

00:22:29.800 That's fascinating.

00:22:30.820 Wow.

00:22:31.260 The world changes.

00:22:31.920 But, uh, so, so here's, here's the thing.

00:22:35.220 What's he talking about?

00:22:35.900 The, I'm sure he's talking about justice and working together.

00:22:39.240 And here's the thing.

00:22:40.800 He's an outcast of the left of the left.

00:22:44.100 Yeah.

00:22:44.440 He's an outcast.

00:22:46.000 The guy was a communist.

00:22:49.800 He's an outcast.

00:22:51.700 The guy who I said 10 years ago is the most radical guy in the administration is not radical

00:23:00.700 enough and is speaking at CPAC.

00:23:05.400 Holy crap.

00:23:06.520 So incredible.

00:23:07.720 It's incredible.

00:23:08.680 So incredible.

00:23:09.340 And with the transgender thing, you know, all across the nation, everybody's trying to

00:23:13.760 figure out how to deal with it.

00:23:14.940 In Texas, there's a rule that you, you've got to compete, uh, under the gender that's 1.00

00:23:20.960 on your birth certificate.

00:23:22.900 So that caused a problem because a girl who wanted to compete with boys and she's on the 1.00

00:23:29.740 testosterone hormone treatment.

00:23:32.100 So she's stronger and more agile and, and dominating in women's wrestling, but she had 1.00

00:23:40.240 to, she wanted to compete against the boys that wouldn't let her in, in Connecticut.

00:23:44.360 It's different.

00:23:45.040 It's, it's the gender with which you'd identify and you get to compete in Texas.

00:23:49.220 Are they doing the hormones because of a transition or is it because of a medical transition because

00:23:54.020 of the transition?

00:23:54.760 So they can't, like, cause you wouldn't normally be able to use, let's say steroids, right?

00:23:58.240 Right.

00:23:58.380 And they make the exception for the transition person.

00:24:00.780 And that's again, where the issue stands, right?

00:24:03.480 You shouldn't be able to, yeah.

00:24:05.240 Again, it's a chemistry issue here.

00:24:06.560 It's a problem.

00:24:06.640 If they're taking these things really for any reason, I mean, I think you'd feel bad if

00:24:09.640 it was for like a...

00:24:10.300 That's why you get kicked out of Major League Baseball for taking testosterone.

00:24:13.740 It makes you stronger and faster.

00:24:16.320 Yeah.

00:24:16.520 It's Armstrong, right?

00:24:17.440 That was part of his situation as well.

00:24:19.160 It's really, truly amazing how the effects are so clear and, and are going to pile up faster

00:24:26.420 and faster.

00:24:27.000 Once you start rejecting science, once you reject science, I mean, that's why that's,

00:24:33.780 you know, that's the meaning behind my last book.

00:24:36.800 It's science and it's dismantling absolutely everything in our society.

00:24:42.780 You, once you start to dismantle science, you can't go to the moon anymore because two

00:24:51.300 plus two equals five, sometimes.

00:24:54.600 Yeah.

00:24:55.400 Well, what?

00:24:56.780 You can't do anything.

00:24:58.920 Our whole world is based upon science and empirical evidence.

00:25:06.060 Now, nothing is.

00:25:08.620 Nothing is.

00:25:09.400 And isn't it fascinating that they used to throw that around at us, that we're the science

00:25:13.320 deniers, and now it's the Democrats who are denying science on whether a fetus is a human

00:25:18.440 being and whether a baby is a human being and it's not what's in your pants that decides.

00:25:26.400 It's how you feel in your head that decides your gender.

00:25:29.420 What?

00:25:30.480 No, it isn't.

00:25:31.760 No, it isn't.

00:25:32.440 Now, to be American, if you want to say you're a woman and you're a man, because that's the 0.83

00:25:42.880 way you feel, and you have a gender issue, okay. 0.98

00:25:47.420 Go ahead.

00:25:48.080 And I might even call you ma'am, because I don't need to hurt your feeling.

00:25:52.960 I don't need to prove anything to you or whatever.

00:25:55.460 However, I don't, you know, it depends on how deep this goes and if I, how much I have

00:26:01.160 to, you know, um, honor your delusion.

00:26:05.300 I'm not going to go down that road, but to be polite, I'm living next to a, to a guy who

00:26:10.280 dresses like a woman. 0.97

00:26:11.360 I'm going to tell my kids, yeah, he's got some gender issues.

00:26:14.540 Uh, you know what?

00:26:15.280 But he's our neighbor.

00:26:16.380 We love him.

00:26:17.360 Just be polite, you know, say good morning, ma'am, or whatever.

00:26:22.200 Okay.

00:26:22.640 Let's just be cool with each other.

00:26:24.400 Americans want to live that way. 0.99

00:26:28.600 They just don't want it forced down their throat.

00:26:31.740 And that means they don't want somebody saying, you're gay.

00:26:37.560 No, you can't love another person of your gender. 0.98

00:26:40.760 You can't do that.

00:26:42.060 You can't do that.

00:26:43.780 They don't want that either.

00:26:45.480 They just want it.

00:26:46.400 Oh, you're gay. 1.00

00:26:47.120 Oh, you're living with another person of your gender. 0.98

00:26:49.340 Okay.

00:26:50.360 Kids, that's homosexuality. 1.00

00:26:52.040 We think it's wrong.

00:26:53.000 They think it's right.

00:26:53.880 Okay.

00:26:54.400 Move on with your life.

00:26:55.680 That's what America wants.

00:26:58.780 And for some reason, um, there are others.

00:27:02.280 Well, I don't need to say for some reason, for reasons of power and control and manipulation,

00:27:08.160 they must have us all think alike.

00:27:11.680 They must have us toe the line, whatever that line is today.

00:27:16.460 It'll be different tomorrow, but we must all learn you toe the line.

00:27:21.560 That's the end of America.

00:27:23.080 That's the end of the American experiment. 0.81

00:27:25.080 That's a, that's a, that's a, that's the end of everything we are as a species.

00:27:31.640 That's what this battle is about.

00:27:33.200 And we are at the end of this battle.

00:27:36.260 Now it's going to go on.

00:27:37.560 If they win, it's going to go on until they are thwarted a hundred years from now, maybe longer than that because of technology.

00:27:46.540 But that battle will continue one way or another, but we are about to be put in a cage.

00:27:54.860 I mean, I don't know if you realize 5G, that decision is being made right now.

00:28:02.780 They are building, uh, a, a, a rat trap.

00:28:07.320 China is building a rat trap.

00:28:09.780 We are at the, we're at the height of the cold war with the missiles and we don't even know it.

00:28:16.600 Nobody's even talking about it in the next six to 18 months.

00:28:20.800 Places like Germany and, uh, Britain and Australia, they're all deciding whether or not, yeah, we can have Huawei technology for our 5G.

00:28:32.520 If that technology is put in, China rules all information.

00:28:38.520 They have access to every, every single gas line that runs around the world.

00:28:44.100 They win every war before a bullet is ever fought.

00:28:48.620 And what are we talking about?

00:28:50.800 We're talking about Cohen.

00:28:53.320 Get your priorities together, America.

00:28:56.400 Science matters.

00:28:57.680 Facts matter.

00:29:01.800 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

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00:29:37.980 I could not be a more committed, progressive, feminist, pro-gay, pro-transgender person.

00:29:48.160 But I cannot keep up with the glossary of correct terms.

00:29:54.620 I'm trying.

00:29:56.620 I want to help.

00:29:57.460 But holy f***.

00:29:58.960 It's like a secret club pass where they change it every week.

00:30:02.460 And then you're in trouble.

00:30:03.600 That's not the word we use.

00:30:05.400 F***.

00:30:05.920 It was last week.

00:30:08.320 I have hemorrhoids.

00:30:09.840 My a** is falling out.

00:30:12.100 I want to help.

00:30:14.100 I know I'm an old cis white a**er.

00:30:17.580 But don't give me s*** because I didn't know the right term.

00:30:22.400 F***.

00:30:22.920 RuPaul.

00:30:23.880 RuPaul.

00:30:25.140 Got into s*** for saying tranny.

00:30:27.660 Ru-

00:30:28.040 F***.

00:30:28.800 Paul.

00:30:31.220 That was amazing.

00:30:33.600 They're eating themselves and it's a joy to watch.

00:30:42.520 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

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00:31:03.620 The Republicans don't have any leg to stand on either.

00:31:06.640 They loved Cohen when he was defending the president.

00:31:10.700 And he had no credibility then either.

00:31:12.860 Yeah, I like Jim Jordan, but Lanny Davis did not discover Michael Cohen.

00:31:16.880 Michael Cohen was in the organization for a very long time.

00:31:19.300 That's why we know who he is.

00:31:20.320 And he was on television, being sent on television to defend the president for a very long time.

00:31:24.220 And a lot of people liked that.

00:31:25.580 And he was a liar then.

00:31:26.980 He's a liar now.

00:31:27.940 There's just not a lot to say.

00:31:32.360 It's now 26 minutes into his testimony.

00:31:36.240 He hasn't spoken a word.

00:31:38.440 This is exactly what you'd expect from this.

00:31:41.040 Jason, what are we getting here?

00:31:41.880 We got about a minute before we have to go to break and we're going to come back with more of the testimony.

00:31:45.660 So Jordan was just, he yielded his time over just prematurely.

00:31:49.360 But then he was like, oh, wait a minute.

00:31:50.380 And then Cummings was like, no, no, you yield your time.

00:31:52.500 And he's like, but I have a motion.

00:31:53.880 And he's like, no, I'm not going to let, I'm not going to hear your motion.

00:31:55.680 You're done.

00:31:56.120 And then Jordan's like, oh, that's how you're going to operate?

00:31:57.960 Okay.

00:31:58.580 I mean, this is getting fiery.

00:31:59.900 It's just like, this is, this is the show, right?

00:32:03.000 This is a, it's a big show for both sides to get out their arguments and say that they're, you know, trying really hard and tough.

00:32:10.540 And like, look, Jordan's correct here.

00:32:12.520 Cohen is, has zero credibility.

00:32:16.140 Zero.

00:32:17.140 I mean, he has, it's really less than zero.

00:32:20.020 The guy has been lying.

00:32:22.080 Basically, every time you've ever seen him speak has been a lie.

00:32:25.760 So to bring him in and act as if he's credible now is completely disingenuous from the Democrats.

00:32:31.400 And it was also disingenuous from the Republicans when they were treating him credibly back in the day.

00:32:35.280 You know, what's amazing to me is we have actual issues going on.

00:32:40.200 Presidents in North Korea are in Vietnam.

00:32:42.680 I'm talking about North Korea.

00:32:43.620 I mean, that's going on.

00:32:45.260 We, our special forces this week, it was found out, are now training for operations against China and Russia and deemphasizing the Middle East and terror.

00:32:59.080 This started because of China and Russia. 0.75

00:33:02.980 And there's nobody talking about that.

00:33:05.280 This is not about actually finding any truth and anything that is going to help the American people.

00:33:11.180 This is a political, and you said it right, show.

00:33:14.240 All the world has become a stage.

00:33:18.220 And we're just watching a show while the real moves are being made by Russia and China and the financial and tech centers.

00:33:29.460 What are we doing?

00:33:31.080 What are we doing, America?

00:33:32.760 Wake up.

00:33:35.700 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:33:44.240 This week already, Democrats voted against protecting newborns who were born alive so the doctor or their parents could kill the child.

00:33:58.320 Now those same people who want us to be able to kill baby bring us a con man, convicted felon, and perjurer to try to tell us this person can be trusted.

00:34:09.780 We have to hear the truth.

00:34:11.660 Ben Sasse is here.

00:34:12.640 What is the state of the American soul, Ben?

00:34:15.840 Oh, Glenn, that's too big for a Wednesday morning.

00:34:22.520 Monday night in the Senate was a shameful disgrace.

00:34:26.220 I mean, I remain optimistic about the pro-life movement in the long term for a whole bunch of reasons.

00:34:31.500 But one of the basic ones is there's a lot more imaging technology in the world.

00:34:36.100 And what we find is, as people see more 3D images of what's happening in utero, they recognize that a baby is a baby.

00:34:42.120 The pro-baby position and the pro-compassion position, the pro-science position, actually are all the same one.

00:34:47.180 So I'm optimistic.

00:34:48.840 But America's soul on display, at least through its supposedly greatest deliberative body, Monday night was tragic.

00:34:54.460 So, Ben, what does this say to—I think, and I don't know where the cutoff is with God, but I believe in an American covenant that was started with George Washington, and that he will withdraw his protection.

00:35:07.700 And I think some of that has been withdrawn slowly.

00:35:10.840 But when we can't say, hey, we're not going to kill newborns, and everybody knows that's infanticide, I think that's—I think God withdraws from that.

00:35:23.200 But what does that say about the Democratic presidential candidates?

00:35:30.340 I mean, what's going to happen to the Democratic Party when they embrace the worst possible position and say, yep, we're okay with that?

00:35:38.720 Yeah.

00:35:39.120 I mean, so let's distinguish between one really big point and then a smaller political point.

00:35:43.140 But the first and bigger point, bigger than politics, is it shouldn't be right versus left to affirm human dignity.

00:35:49.340 When we believe—the American experiment is premised on the idea that everybody's an image bearer, that God created people with dignity and with rights.

00:35:57.840 Government is not the author or source of your rights.

00:36:00.400 Government is just our shared project.

00:36:02.180 It's a tool to secure rights that we've already been given by God.

00:36:05.820 And you have to affirm universal dignity to understand what America's about.

00:36:10.360 That is not Republican versus Democrat.

00:36:12.740 It should be bigger than that.

00:36:13.820 Now, the much narrower political point is there's so much Republican tribalism in our country that we're not having a conversation that pretends the 320 billion of us are in anything together.

00:36:25.120 And so you had 44 Democrats and 100 people in the U.S. Senate vote against a resolution Monday night that was really just condemning infanticide.

00:36:33.980 I'm as pro-life as they come, and unapologetically so.

00:36:37.180 But our bill Monday night wasn't actually about abortion.

00:36:39.860 It didn't touch Roe v. Wade.

00:36:41.260 It didn't have anything to do with abortion access. 0.64

00:36:42.940 It's about babies that have already been born alive.

00:36:46.340 And we had, I think, six Democrats—I was floor manager Monday afternoon in route to the vote.

00:36:50.120 And I think we had six Democrats make speeches, and four of them were just filled with blatant lies, talking about health of the mother in the second trimester, and debates that are messier than what we're actually talking about here.

00:37:01.920 Their stuff had nothing to do with the bill whatsoever.

00:37:05.580 They were making up stuff that isn't anywhere in the text of the bill at all.

00:37:09.960 And I think they think they can get away with lying like that simply because they know that America's tribal enough that people only listen inside their own silos, and they're not going to be called to account because they're talking to people who already agreed with them.

00:37:22.280 That's how a republic dies.

00:37:24.120 We're supposed to believe some stuff in common.

00:37:26.360 Ben, I can't thank you enough for making this stand and pushing and standing tall on this and firm.

00:37:33.060 We are behind you, and we support you on this effort and many of the other efforts.

00:37:39.840 You are a guy who possibly can bring us back together.

00:37:44.320 And as strange as this may sound, abortion in the end may be one of those things that brings us back together because the left has gone so far.

00:37:54.320 They're in the territory of a Jason movie almost.

00:37:57.760 Senator Ben Sasse, thank you so much for joining us.

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00:38:23.420 Thanks.

00:38:23.800 I'm so disappointed in you, Stu.

00:38:25.260 Are you?

00:38:25.800 These are important questions.

00:38:28.880 These are really important questions.

00:38:31.120 And you just, you fail to see the important, you have Ms. Norton.

00:38:37.060 Yeah.

00:38:37.520 Hi.

00:38:37.920 I just want to say, the Access Hollywood tape.

00:38:41.000 Yeah.

00:38:41.380 That, that, that had a lot of.

00:38:42.920 It's an important thing.

00:38:43.680 This is a congressional hearing.

00:38:45.420 Had a lot of hits on the website.

00:38:47.800 Yeah.

00:38:48.160 And it shut down the newspaper servers.

00:38:51.080 It did.

00:38:51.780 It set a record for a lot of hits in a short time.

00:38:55.460 Access Hollywood.

00:38:56.080 And that was the tape that was out for the people to, uh, hear and see.

00:39:01.920 And what did you, what's your question?

00:39:03.580 And people went on the internet, which is a series of tubes that creates information and

00:39:08.760 collects it like a bank tube.

00:39:11.660 And it goes from one side of, one side of your computer to the other and then over to

00:39:16.220 your neighbor's computer.

00:39:17.280 And then continues to go down your street until it leaves your street and goes into the center

00:39:21.660 of town at that time.

00:39:23.540 Uh, is, uh, then able to be passed along to other areas of the country through the tubes

00:39:28.980 carried by small hamsters who walk the information to the computer that you're designing.

00:39:36.140 Mr. Chairman, I would just ask that the gentle woman is, is please instructed to shut up. 1.00

00:39:44.040 She's hurting our case. 1.00

00:39:46.100 I mean, you have this big moment in front of national TV, this, you know, Michael Cohen,

00:39:50.220 you have a very short amount of time and she's legitimately praising the web stats of the

00:39:54.100 Access Hollywood video.

00:39:55.580 Well, because she, because Cohen needed to say, hope Hicks asked me to call the networks

00:40:00.880 and spin the Access Hollywood tape.

00:40:03.220 Now he's working.

00:40:04.580 He's working for the president and the running for, of course he's spinning.

00:40:08.020 Who was surprised by this?

00:40:11.360 Go ahead.

00:40:12.000 Bring, bring, bring this in. 0.61

00:40:13.180 The Access Hollywood study in terms of impact on the election.

00:40:19.620 I was concerned about it, but more importantly, Mr. Trump was concerned about it.

00:40:23.800 And that was my next question.

00:40:25.220 What was the president's concern about these matters becoming public in October?

00:40:31.000 What do you think?

00:40:32.100 This is so ridiculous.

00:40:33.960 I don't think anybody would dispute this belief that after the wildfire that encompassed the

00:40:45.580 Billy Bush tape, that a second follow-up to it would have been pleasant.

00:40:51.960 And he was concerned with the effect that it had had on the campaign, on how women were seeing him,

00:41:02.160 and ultimately whether or not he would have a shot in the general election.

00:41:08.560 And so you negotiated the $130,000 payment.

00:41:12.040 The $130,000 number was not a number that was actually negotiated.

00:41:18.420 It was told to me by Keith Davidson that this is a number that Ms. Clifford wanted.

00:41:24.200 Well, you finally completed that deal, as it were, on October the 25th, days before the election.

00:41:34.100 What happened in the interim?

00:41:35.220 I contemplated whether or not to do it, wasn't sure if she was really going to go public.

00:41:45.280 It was, again, some communications back and forth between myself and Keith Davidson.

00:41:51.520 And ultimately it came to either do it or don't, at which time, again, I had gone into Mr. Trump's office.

00:41:58.700 If I could, can I go back to the Access Hollywood tape that was on the Internet?

00:42:04.340 This was a diesel bus, was it not?

00:42:07.320 It was run on diesel fuel, and when it was fueled up, it would have to go to a diesel pump

00:42:12.140 that's just different from the unleaded pumps.

00:42:14.800 Now there's three varieties, of course, of unleaded.

00:42:17.080 You have the regular...

00:42:18.220 Yes, can I ask the committee member to...

00:42:20.920 A supreme.

00:42:21.840 Tell us why that's important at all.

00:42:24.160 Now if you have a membership card to the gas station, you can get more points,

00:42:27.640 and those points will then refer to lower gas prices in the future,

00:42:31.120 but filling a diesel tank with regular unleaded would be a real problem.

00:42:35.100 Hang on, here's Mr. Meadows.

00:42:36.860 Here's Mr. Meadows.

00:42:38.320 To actually shed some light, how long have you known Ms. Patton?

00:42:42.220 I'm responsible for Lynn Patton joining the Trump Organization and the job that she currently holds. 1.00

00:42:48.280 Well, I'm glad you acknowledged that because you made some very demeaning comments

00:42:54.840 about the president that Ms. Patton doesn't agree with.

00:42:58.220 In fact, it has to do with your claim of racism.

00:43:02.820 She says that as a daughter of a man born in Birmingham, Alabama,

00:43:08.180 that there is no way that she would work for an individual who was racist.

00:43:15.120 How do you reconcile the two of those, Mr. Meadows?

00:43:16.900 As neither should I, as the son of a Holocaust survivor.

00:43:19.940 However, Mr. Cohen, I guess what I'm saying is I've talked to the president over 300 times.

00:43:28.840 I've not heard one time a racist comment out of his mouth in private.

00:43:35.180 So how do you reconcile it?

00:43:36.520 Do you have proof of those conversations?

00:43:38.700 I would ask you to ask.

00:43:39.680 Do you have tape recordings of those conversations?

00:43:41.960 No, sir.

00:43:42.640 Well, you've taped everybody else.

00:43:44.260 Why wouldn't you have a tape?

00:43:45.080 That's also not true, sir.

00:43:46.620 That's not true.

00:43:47.400 You haven't taped anybody?

00:43:48.700 I have taped individuals.

00:43:49.960 How many times have you taped individuals?

00:43:52.060 Maybe 100 times over 10 years.

00:43:54.020 Is that a low estimate?

00:43:55.020 Because I've heard it's over 200 times.

00:43:57.140 No, I don't think.

00:43:57.860 I think it's approximately about 100, from what I recall.

00:44:00.640 But I would ask you.

00:44:01.460 So why would you ask me a question, sir?

00:44:02.820 Do you have proof?

00:44:03.500 Do you have proof?

00:44:05.080 Yes or no?

00:44:05.760 I do.

00:44:06.620 Where's the proof?

00:44:07.860 Ask Ms. Patton how many people who are black are executives at the Trump Organization.

00:44:15.740 That's not—oh, my gosh.

00:44:19.200 As we said, he's not a good lawyer.

00:44:21.700 No one ever accused him of being a good lawyer.

00:44:24.160 Horrible.

00:44:24.760 I mean, he just is—

00:44:26.160 All right, let me go on a little bit further.

00:44:28.620 Did you collect $1.2 million or so from Novartis?

00:44:32.800 I did.

00:44:33.740 For access to the Trump administration?

00:44:38.360 No, sir.

00:44:38.840 Well, why did you collect it?

00:44:41.220 Because they came to me based upon my knowledge of the enigma, Donald Trump, what he thinks—

00:44:48.300 So they paid—

00:44:48.980 Sorry, please let me finish.

00:44:49.940 No, did they pay you $1.2 million to give them advice?

00:44:53.780 Yes, they did.

00:44:54.880 They—a multibillion-dollar conglomerate came to me looking for information, not something

00:45:01.360 that's unusual here in D.C., looking for information, and they believed that I had a value.

00:45:07.420 So how many times did you meet with them?

00:45:08.920 And that the value was the insight that I was capable of offering them.

00:45:12.020 How many times—

00:45:12.500 And they were willing to pay.

00:45:13.740 How many times did you meet with them?

00:45:16.900 For $1.2 million, how many times did you meet with them?

00:45:20.380 I provided them with both in-person as well as telephone access whenever they needed.

00:45:26.320 How many times?

00:45:27.300 Yes, sir.

00:45:27.600 That's a question, Mr. Cohen.

00:45:28.960 I don't recall, sir.

00:45:29.960 So did you ever talk to them?

00:45:31.320 I spoke to them on several occasions, yes.

00:45:33.000 How many?

00:45:34.720 Six times.

00:45:35.960 Six times.

00:45:37.880 Wow.

00:45:39.020 $200,000 a call.

00:45:40.960 Sir, I also would like to—

00:45:42.040 All right, hold on.

00:45:42.700 I also would like to bring to your attention the contract—

00:45:43.260 This is my five minutes, Mr. Cohen, not yours.

00:45:45.920 Did you get money from the Bank of Kazakhstan?

00:45:49.060 It's not a Bank of Kazakhstan.

00:45:50.440 It's called BTA.

00:45:52.460 BTA Bank.

00:45:53.340 Kazakhstan, BTA Bank.

00:45:55.000 Did you get money from them?

00:45:56.440 I did.

00:45:57.600 For what purpose?

00:45:58.880 The purpose was because the former CEO of that bank had absconded with over—it was between

00:46:05.980 $4 to $6 billion, and some of the money was here in the United States, and they sought

00:46:10.580 my assistance in terms of finding, locating that money and helping them to recollect it.

00:46:16.100 So are you saying that all the reports that you were paid, in some estimates, over $4 million

00:46:22.140 to have access and understanding of the Trump administration, you're saying that all of that

00:46:28.480 was just paid to you just because you're a nice guy?

00:46:31.500 Well, I am a nice guy, but more importantly—

00:46:34.420 I would beg to differ.

00:46:35.380 The record reflects that you're not a nice guy.

00:46:37.900 Each and every contract contained the clause in my contracts that said, I will not lobby,

00:46:44.540 and I do not do government relations work.

00:46:46.740 In fact, in fact, Novartis sent me their contract, which stated specifically that they wanted

00:46:54.240 me to lobby, that they wanted me to provide access to government, including the president.

00:46:58.860 That information, that paragraph was crossed out by me.

00:47:03.020 We've seen this movie before we know how it works.

00:47:04.220 We live through the Clintons.

00:47:06.720 I do not lobby or do government relations work.

00:47:11.580 So Novartis representatives say that it was like they were hiring a non-registered lobbyist,

00:47:17.500 so you disagree with that?

00:47:19.340 I don't know what they said, sir, but that the contract—

00:47:22.020 Have you ever contacted anybody in the administration?

00:47:26.000 Yes.

00:47:26.360 To advocate on behalf of any aspect of any of your contracts.

00:47:34.800 I ask unanimous consent, Mr. Chairman.

00:47:37.400 I ask unanimous consent.

00:47:39.940 The gentleman's time has expired.

00:47:41.760 You may answer the question.

00:47:44.620 I don't know what you're referring to, sir.

00:47:47.880 Mr. Chairman.

00:47:48.780 Mr. Clay.

00:47:49.340 Mr. Chairman.

00:47:49.980 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:47:51.480 Oh, my gosh.

00:47:52.800 You notice every time he runs out of time?

00:47:56.760 He—and you have to answer the question.

00:47:58.720 He's like, I didn't understand.

00:48:00.400 I don't know what—I don't know what you're talking about.

00:48:02.540 The American people are tired of being lied to.

00:48:06.900 They have been lied to by President Trump.

00:48:10.480 They've been lied to by the President's children.

00:48:14.120 They have been lied to by the President's legal representatives.

00:48:17.860 That's you.

00:48:18.760 And it pains me to say that they have been even lied to by his congressional enablers who are still devoted to perpetuating and protecting—

00:48:31.700 I was amazed.

00:48:32.480 We talk about this every day, and there's a lot of people that I've just never even seen before that are in these hearings.

00:48:36.820 Yeah, I know.

00:48:37.380 I've never seen this guy before in my life.

00:48:38.900 No.

00:48:39.520 I don't.

00:48:39.860 Mr. Clay.

00:48:40.520 Any idea where Mr. Clay is from?

00:48:43.660 Missouri, he says.

00:48:44.840 Missouri?

00:48:45.440 Yeah.

00:48:45.520 He must be reported accurately on his federal financial disclosure and when he submits them for a bank loan.

00:48:54.440 So let's just talk about this for a second.

00:48:56.720 Mr. Cohen, you served for nearly a decade.

00:48:58.480 If I may, this has done absolutely nothing but divide the nation into camps deeper.

00:49:06.100 If you believe Donald Trump, you're deeper into his corner.

00:49:12.080 Sure.

00:49:12.360 If you don't believe Donald Trump, you're deeper with the Democrats.

00:49:16.140 However, if you are neither, if you're just like, I just want the truth, this is a ridiculous soap opera.

00:49:28.860 Yes.

00:49:29.340 This is a soap opera that no one would believe.

00:49:32.100 If you wrote it, you wouldn't believe it.

00:49:33.880 You'd be like, they're not going to do that.

00:49:36.480 They're not going to ask that question.

00:49:39.200 Are you the type that doesn't want to get to the truth about the web stats of the bus tape of Billy Bush?

00:49:45.780 Imagine that in a soap opera.

00:49:47.700 And I want to bring up the Hollywood, Access Hollywood web stats.

00:49:52.640 Billy Bush's career started in 1991.

00:49:56.360 No one would believe it.

00:49:58.420 No one would believe it.

00:49:59.840 I think the 70% of this nation needs to just grab the 30% of the nation by the shoulders and say, stop it.

00:50:08.580 What's wrong with you?

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