Ted Cruz and Mark Levin join host Glenn Beck to discuss the articles of impeachment, abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. They also discuss the I.G. report and the inaccuracies in it, and why the media should not be laughing at it.
00:00:00.000Well, hello, podcasters. Today was a kind of a busy, busy news day. The impeachment articles were filed right at the top of the podcast. And I love them. I love them. And we'll explain why. Ted Cruz was also with us. Mark Levin. We talked a little bit about that.
00:00:19.720We went through the I.G. report and the inaccuracies. They're not inaccuracies. They're lies. And we expose all of it on today's podcast.
00:00:38.280You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:00:42.320The senator from the great state of Texas, Senator Ted Cruz. How are you, Ted?
00:00:52.420Glenn, my friend. Always great to be with you.
00:00:54.080Thank you. First, your your comments on the articles of impeachment, abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.
00:01:01.000Well, you know, it reminds me a little bit of Sherlock Holmes, famous dog that didn't bark, which is which is I think the these articles of impeachment represent that an admission of failure on the part of the Democrats.
00:01:16.040I think so, too. Just two, three weeks ago, you may remember that that every Democrat in Washington were using the word bribery.
00:01:25.340They were saying bribery over and over and over again. The reason for that, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee had focus grouped it.
00:01:33.000They'd done focus grouped and then polled it and they discovered that bribery was really bad.
00:01:38.120And when they said bribery, people reacted understandably badly and said, oh, I don't like bribery.
00:01:43.780And so and so in a 24 hour period, just about every Democrat in the House began saying bribery, bribery, bribery.
00:01:49.860Here's the problem. They don't have evidence of bribery. They don't have evidence of criminal conduct.
00:01:56.700And as the hearings went on, they brought in one witness after another, after another, and they couldn't prove what they were alleging in significant part because the president released the transcript of the phone call on the face of it.
00:02:08.300And there's nothing illegal or criminal in it. And it came to really a really revealing moment this weekend when the House Democrats put out a 55 page memorandum in which they they they called it a scholarly memorandum in which they argued that that for impeachment, you don't have to prove any criminal offense or even any law was violated.
00:02:30.700You don't have to prove that the president had a speeding ticket, that instead they said you could just be impeached for amorphous abuse of power, which is what they just did a few minutes ago.
00:02:42.220What that reveals, you know, as you know, poker, you know, poker, Glenn, yes, in the game of poker, if someone has a tell, it's when they have a really bad hand and they reveal it, they twist their ring or they pull on their hair.
00:02:57.020They do something to reveal, I got a terrible hand. The Democrats have a tell.
00:03:02.200They're revealing that they haven't been able to prove any of what they said they were going to prove, but they're going to impeach the president anyway because they hate him.
00:03:10.380This is a partisan exercise and it's been nothing but a partisan show trial for months.
00:03:17.100But but the good news is once the House is done with it, the Senate's going to take it up and this is going to be thrown out.
00:03:23.420This is going nowhere. And every Democrat who is voting to impeach knows that this has zero percent chance of succeeding in the Senate.
00:03:30.860So here's the thing that I want to talk to you about, because you did a great job on Meet the Press and they just would not let you speak.
00:03:38.740And they mocked you for it. And this is what I hope we do find out in the Senate.
00:03:44.020I know Grassley, Johnson and Graham are starting to put together witness lists that they want to dig into the Ukrainian scandal.
00:03:53.700And the first person they want to bring on is Chalupa, the DNC operative.
00:04:00.620The other one is Andrei Teleshenko, who have had on this program before, who tells a very different story.
00:04:07.080Can you explain why the media should not be laughing at the the the the claim that the Democrats were using Ukraine to interfere in this election?
00:04:23.860Well, sure. And the simplest answer why the media shouldn't be laughing is that it's a fact that they're supposed to be journalists.
00:04:30.280But they're not journalists anymore. Most of the media, they are propagandists.
00:04:36.120They don't pretend to be fair and objective. And the reason they're laughing, the reason they're mocking and attacking any claim about Ukraine is they're terrified.
00:04:45.420You know, on Sunday when I did Meet the Press, I've done Meet the Press a lot of times.
00:04:49.640Chuck Todd knows how to be a real journalist. He's capable of asking questions that are real questions.
00:04:56.560I've never seen Chuck Todd panic as much as he did on Sunday.
00:05:01.280And all of the media is panicking because they see the Democrats case collapsing and they're running like rats from a ship.
00:05:08.680So here's the game the media has played is they for the past several weeks, they try to pose to anyone in public, Republican politicians or anyone else.
00:05:18.620Are you saying that Ukraine and not Russia interfered in 2016?
00:05:25.080They try to pose it as a binary test so that anyone who says, well, yes, aha, you're a fool.
00:05:30.220You're denying the Russian interference. Well, look, that's utter nonsense.
00:05:34.100Let me say unequivocally, yes, Russia interfered in our 2016 election.
00:05:38.460Russia is not our friend. Vladimir Putin is a KGB thug, which, by the way, the Democrats in the media were apologists for during the entire Obama administration.
00:05:47.280They've suddenly discovered Russia, Russia are bad guys.
00:05:50.960I'm glad they did so after about 70 years of kissing up to the Soviet Union.
00:05:58.200But the fact that Russia interfered in our election does not mean that nobody else on Earth did also.
00:06:05.940We know for a fact a number of other countries have actively interfered in our elections, including China, including North Korea and including Ukraine.
00:06:14.340And the simple facts. So in 2016, in the fall of 2016, the sitting ambassador from Ukraine authored an op-ed published in The Hill blasting Donald Trump.
00:06:28.480The Ukrainian embassy pushed that out on their official website.
00:06:32.120That is very, very unusual for a sitting ambassador to try to inject themselves into the middle of an American presidential campaign.
00:06:40.220Not only that, publicly, the sitting interior minister of the Ukrainian government was blasting Donald Trump.
00:06:47.340The former prime minister of Ukraine was blasting Donald Trump.
00:06:51.540Two parliamentarians in Ukraine held a press conference where they accused their government of illegally trying to influence the U.S. election to help elect Hillary Clinton.
00:07:01.640Those are all facts. And as you know, a Democratic operative who worked for the DNC was meeting repeatedly with the Ukrainians.
00:07:11.500And it is at least alleged was coordinating closely with Democrats and Hillary Clinton to attack Donald Trump.
00:07:18.760This week, the House has finished their show trials and now moved into the articles of impeachment.
00:07:25.740And it's on its way to the Senate, where it's going to be taken apart.
00:07:32.560Rumor has it that Trump wants to do this before Christmas or during Christmas.
00:07:50.840If the Republicans do their job and you actually have a fair trial, I think it changes the whole world.
00:07:58.160But did you know you're you're probably if you've been making phone calls on Verizon or AT&T or any of these groups, you may have helped finance some of this stuff.
00:08:09.300You're helping finance abortion, open borders, gun confiscation and impeachment because companies like Verizon donate millions to left wing causes.
00:08:19.980Patriot Mobile is the only cell phone service in America that donates a portion of the monthly bill to conservative organizations fighting for the values you believe in.
00:08:30.900Now, you would think, well, you know what, I'll go ahead and just make my own donations.
00:08:36.260No, it's great to have a company where they can make millions of dollars and donate it.
00:09:12.620You also have a court case in Ukraine.
00:09:18.180The guy who was the head of the Anti-Corruption Bureau, which was partly funded by George Soros and put together by our own administration, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and running through our Justice Department.
00:09:32.280You have the head guy of that on tape saying that, yeah, I was working to help Hillary Clinton win the election.
00:09:44.720He and another guy were both nailed and found guilty of interfering with the U.S. election.
00:10:58.420But number two, they are desperately trying to preserve the narrative.
00:11:01.840I have to say it has been hysterical to see the media screaming.
00:11:06.060So if you acknowledge the facts, and what you and I just said, there are simple facts, they scream that you're a Russian asset.
00:11:13.660And that was a quote from the Washington Post on Sunday where they called me a Russian asset.
00:11:22.500John Harwood, the reporter at CNBC, who even among mainstream media reporters is remarkably partisan.
00:11:30.660He was so bad, he got NBC fired from hosting Republican debates in 2016 because he's just – he can't resist letting his partisan bias come out.
00:11:42.060He sat down on Twitter and said, well, now Cruz is just a mouthpiece for Russian propaganda.
00:11:57.720Well, in my office, there is a 15-foot-wide painting of Ronald Reagan standing before the Brandenburg Gate and uttering the most important words of this last century, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
00:12:13.400I mean, go back to the Obama-Mitt Romney debate.
00:12:54.520So, Ted, I've got less than a minute here with you, and I just want to ask you, because you started the conversation off with, we're going to throw this out in the Senate.
00:13:02.460Please tell me that you are going to hold an impeachment trial and expose all of this stuff in the Senate, won't you?
00:13:14.860Unlike the House, where there was no due process and no fairness, I believe the Senate will be much more fair.
00:13:20.220We'll allow both sides to present the case.
00:13:22.120So the House managers can present their arguments, but we're going to allow the White House and the president to present their defense.
00:13:27.420I believe that means if the president wants to call witnesses, the president should be able to call witnesses.
00:13:32.180If the president wants to call Hunter Biden or the whistleblower, whomever the president wants to call, we should allow both sides to present their case.
00:13:39.880And then on the facts, this is going to be thrown out because the Democrats have not – they're abusing the Constitution.
00:13:47.840Not only have they not proven an impeachable offense, they know it, and they're just abusing the Constitution for partisan ends.
00:13:55.940Senator Ted Cruz, you can follow him at cruz.senate.gov.
00:14:00.800Thank you for clearing that last one out.
00:14:05.100I was afraid they were going to throw it out.
00:14:06.680I'm glad to hear that Ted is saying they're going to have a trial, and they should call the whistleblower and Chalupa and everyone else involved because I think it destroys the DNC.
00:14:20.400Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.
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00:14:42.020All right, the articles of impeachment have been filed, and here they are.
00:14:48.200The president using the powers of his office for personal gain, ignoring the national interest, which is based on your opinion.
00:14:59.220If you believe the president didn't want to know anything except Joe Biden, didn't care about where our $8 billion went, didn't care about the throwing of the election in 2016 and the actual collusion with the Democratic Party.
00:15:20.140If you think that was all personal, if you think that he was only going after Joe Biden because he was a candidate and it had nothing to do with making sure that the vice president wasn't enriching his family at our expense, go ahead.
00:15:40.660I don't know how you're going to, but try to prove that.
00:15:43.000Pat Gray joins us along with Stu Bergeer, our executive producer.
00:15:46.160The second one is obstruction of Congress, not obstruction of justice, but obstruction of Congress.
00:15:53.320This one is truly laughable because the president can obstruct Congress.
00:15:59.880They're an equal branch, an equal and separate branch.
00:16:05.100So the Congress cannot tell the president what to do, and the president cannot tell Congress what to do.
00:16:11.280They can try, and they've tried over and over again for the last 200 plus years, but the Supreme Court has decided over and over and over again, it is absolutely the president's right to not allow people to testify or turn over records.
00:16:28.440David French wrote about this, and he's exactly what you outlined.
00:16:32.000Both parties have asserted this immunity for generations.
00:16:34.060Listen to this, for nearly a half century, the Office of Legal Counsel, the Department of Justice has consistently opined that, quote, the president and his immediate advisors are absolutely immune from testimonial compulsion by a congressional committee on matters related to their official duties.
00:16:48.720OLC has reaffirmed this position more than a dozen times over the course of the last nine administrations of both political parties.
00:16:55.600William Rehnquist, when he was assistant attorney general, did this in 1971.
00:17:01.880He said, the president and his immediate advisors, that is, those who customarily meet with the president on a regular or frequent basis, should be deemed absolutely immune from testimonial compulsion by a congressional committee.
00:17:14.140They not only may not be examined with respect to their official duties, but they may not even be compelled to appear before a congressional committee.
00:17:21.400This opinion was reaffirmed by the Clinton administration in 1996 and by the Obama administration in 2014.
00:17:29.860As the Obama DOJ explained, this asserted immunity is rooted in the constitutional separation of powers and in the immunity of the president himself from congressional compulsion to testify.
00:17:39.960Since the president is the head of one of the independent branches of the federal government, if Congress could force the president or one of his immediate advisors to testify,
00:17:47.360then the president's independence and autonomy from Congress would be threatened.
00:17:51.400And that is as open and shut a case as you can possibly imagine.
00:17:56.000There is no grounds to impeach the president on obstruction of Congress.
00:18:00.600It's their job to do an investigation if they want to do one, but they don't have, they can't force people associated closely with the president to come and testify.
00:18:09.540If you want to do that, you can go to the Supreme Court and you can have them rule on it and individual cases.
00:18:16.680Is this outside of their everyday duties?
00:18:18.580There are some ways you can get around those things, but the court has to rule on them.
00:18:23.020Several of these witnesses that have been called have asked the court to rule on it.
00:18:27.320And the Democratic Congress said, no, it's going to take too much time.
00:18:31.300We got to get a Christmas break or whatever their argument is.
00:18:34.340It is an open and shut case on that one.
00:18:36.320It's an embarrassment and it shows how weak their hand is that they would even try that as one of these articles of impeachment.
00:18:42.880So I talked to Ted Cruz, you can hear him on the podcast later today, but I talked to Ted Cruz about an hour ago and he said, we are absolutely going to take this up and we have questions.
00:18:52.960Now, there are three senators that are starting to put together a probe and a witness list.
00:19:03.520And the first two on their witness list, Chalupa, the woman who was at really, I think, the head of the DNC collusion with the Ukrainians and Andrei Teloshenko, who worked first for the prosecutor's office, then was transferred and worked for the embassy here in the United States for the Ukrainians.
00:19:28.260And has details. We've talked to him on the program.
00:19:32.380He has details and names and times and places of what Democrats were there and what they were doing with Chalupa and what was happening on this collusion to throw our 2016 election and throw Donald Trump under the bus.
00:19:46.140Now, if the Democrats get their way and the Republicans do not truly open up everything and they don't investigate the whistleblower, the collusion with the Democrats, if we don't uncover all of this and come with an answer, a satisfying answer, the Republic is deeply, deeply hurt.
00:20:15.440Now, I want to, you know, they like to talk about the Constitution and their and their constitutional duty here in Congress right now.
00:20:26.360But what does the Constitution say that there are three jobs in the preamble?
00:20:32.120What are the three jobs, Pat, of the of of the government?
00:20:37.520Common defense. Provide for the common defense.
00:20:40.940Promote. Promote the general welfare and.
00:22:30.100Domestic tranquility is all screwed up when you don't know what the truth is anymore.
00:22:36.060When there is no absolute truth, when there is no arbiter of truth and justice and fairness.
00:22:42.780When it is all in question, there is no domestic tranquility.
00:22:48.600Now, I want to take you not just to what has happened and these these two unbelievable charges that anybody in the media who is telling you, well, this is a pretty serious charges.
00:24:07.360And the FBI went, this should have the highest, highest standard for any kind of warrant.
00:24:19.360So they go to this secret court and they go and they say, we have to know this stuff because this presidential candidate.
00:24:26.360Looks like he's doing some really bad things.
00:24:32.660OK, but let's remember, we're dealing with the the possible president of the United States.
00:24:39.260We're asking the courts and the FBI to get involved in an election.
00:24:43.820I am totally fine with somebody getting involved, the FBI and vetting.
00:24:49.940If if Donald Trump would have been in bed with Russia, it would have been really bad and he should have been impeached if that were the case.
00:25:00.980And I like the fact that the FBI will look into these people.
00:25:05.880However, their omissions or their inaccuracies all amount to the FBI lying to the court.
00:25:15.960And some of them are really, really bad.
00:25:19.020For instance, they omitted information the FBI had obtained from another U.S. government agency detailing its prior relationship with Carter Page,
00:25:31.480including that Page had been approved as an operational contact for another agency from 2008 to 2013,
00:25:40.940and that Page had provided information to the other agency concerning his prior contacts with certain Russian intelligence officers,
00:25:48.180one of which overlap with the facts asserted in the FISA application.
00:25:53.140So in other words, the FBI came to the court and said, hey, we got this guy, he's talking to Russian agents and he's working for Donald Trump.
00:26:00.700And we just we just we just really need to wiretap.
00:26:04.280OK, well, is the guy you sure the guy's not working for us or any other agency?
00:29:59.060No president in American history has ever been treated like this, let alone a president who's facing impeachment.
00:30:06.280No federal judge, all 18 of them, that faced impeachment, they weren't all found guilty, but 18 of them, have ever been treated like this.
00:30:14.760This is the most grotesque abuse of power by the House of Representatives under the control of the Democrats we've ever seen,
00:30:23.160because it is a silent coup, the purpose of which is to remove a duly elected president and disenfranchise the almost 63 million people who voted for him.
00:30:32.800The reason the Republicans are all united, all united from all parts of the country, some more conservative than others in the House, they're all united.
00:30:42.780Not because every single one of them loves the president, but every single one of them is absolutely flabbergasted by what's taking place in this phony House of Representatives.
00:30:55.360This is Mark Levin from his Blaze TV show.
00:31:21.960The first one, I mean, I don't believe, and I would not have hoped for it, but I mean, at least you can, the abuse of power has been a commonly constructed idea in the past.
00:31:31.580But I like your analysis of this, and I like Mark's analysis of this.
00:31:35.180I just wish I could get them in one place, maybe under one particular subscription.