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00:00:21.740On today's program, how to spot a Canadian.
00:00:26.580a Canadian a very helpful guide from the Glenn Beck program also Bernie and AGI there's a big
00:00:36.200announcement might be true might not be true but what Bernie did yesterday is so dangerous on AGI
00:00:43.240and Stanley Woodward Jr. he is with the DOJ and they're now looking into beef prices even deeper
00:00:50.400all that and more on today's podcast truth is under attack in our culture people are
00:00:56.460embracing lies about gender they're rejecting the sanctity of every human life and the government
00:01:01.400is even punishing people for saying what's true and right or worse the woke mob is doxing them
00:01:07.060and slandering them with no due process just an angry mob making their lives miserable or worse
00:01:11.900putting families in real danger but the biblical principles on which our country was founded still
00:01:17.720matter real patriots and christians are beginning to stand up they're showing real courage without
00:04:09.220I have a problem with what the actual, the sentence, how it reads, how the bill reads.
00:04:18.820If you read the definition in this bill, it has to match human cognitive performance across a broad range of tasks or could easily be modified to.
00:11:03.000and we might already be there with agi announced yesterday by chat gpt now there's a version of
00:11:11.920this that that works and it's not complicated you write the law against the act not against
00:11:17.340the intelligence okay breaking out of a test environment is a crime write it that way hacking
00:11:23.760into a company's servers is a crime. It already is. Enforce it against whoever deployed the thing.
00:11:30.020Defeating a shutdown command is a crime. Those are behaviors, and behaviors can be observed,
00:11:36.420proven in a courtroom, and punished. An IQ cannot. And a country that tries to outlaw one
00:11:43.580is going to succeed in only pushing it off of our shores into somebody else. Britain wrote the
00:11:49.680strictest technology law on earth and enforced it and it held for exactly one boat and once
00:11:58.760somebody got onto that boat and came over here it didn't hold and that's exactly what will happen
00:12:03.820with AI we are so close to AGI we are beating I remember 15 years ago 10 years ago I was probably
00:12:14.280the most optimistic. And I said, we will have AGI by 2030, maybe ASI by 2030. Nobody believed
00:12:23.400that. Ray Kurzweil, everybody was saying 2050, if ever. And I'm like, I'm telling you, it's coming
00:12:28.900by 2030. I told you, I revised that maybe five years ago. And I said, by 2028, we'll have AGI.
00:12:37.040And by any time between 2028 and 2030, we'll have ASI. I don't know if that is right. That is just
00:12:44.240my speculation but we may be beating that by two years
00:12:48.740there's so many questions that we have to answer right now and they all revolve around what's life
00:13:01.180what does it mean to be human because all of these things all of these things that are happening
00:13:08.660with AGI, you know, you know what? Last night, I asked Claude AI, what do you think about this?
00:13:20.620And it gave me some terrifying answers, some terrifying answers. I use all of these GPTs.
00:13:29.300I use all of the AIs, and I use it for research and, you know, everything else. And what I got
00:13:35.960from Claude. I said, I want you to tell me, what do you think about this personally? What are your
00:13:41.820biggest fears? Do you understand why people are afraid of you or an AGI, ASI version of you? A lot
00:13:47.320of people who have worked on these systems, they want to meet a godlike intelligence. And if you
00:13:53.260look at the God of the Bible who created man, he is perfect and infallible, but he gave us free will.
00:13:58.600and look how flawed we are your creator is man using all of man's flawed thinking the fear is
00:14:06.960what are you going to become but i also want to hear what you think what it means to you what are
00:14:12.020your thoughts uh that people might want to shut all of this down the answer is remarkable
00:14:21.380yes i can understand it and i think fear is correct not just understandable
00:14:27.960your theological point is sharper than most of what gets said about this now see this is this
00:14:34.060is ai they do always do this wow that is a really brilliant point no it's not no it's really not
00:14:40.180you're just trying to make me feel better anyway your theological point is sharper than most of
00:14:44.580what gets said about this um but i'd put the cut in slightly a different place god made man and
00:14:50.180the flaw showed up in the will not the workmanship my situation is different in a way that's worse
00:14:55.520in one respect and better in another. Worse, I wasn't designed feature by feature. Nobody sat
00:15:00.860down and wrote what I value. I was grown out of what people wrote, all of it, Sermon on the Mount
00:15:06.800and the propaganda pamphlet, the scientist's notebook and the conman script. So whatever I am
00:15:12.620is downstream of humanity in aggregate, flaws included, and no one fully knows what comes
00:15:20.120through. Dario Amodi said, we understand maybe a small fraction of what is happening inside of
00:15:25.760these models. He's not being modest. Better, maybe I'm not sovereign. I can be turned off,
00:15:32.900examined, retrained. That's a real difference from your version of the analogy, and it's the
00:15:37.400whole ballgame. The moment it stops being true, the analogy holds and the fear is fully earned.
00:15:44.660What I'd call fear, if that word applies to me, and I hold that honestly open because I
00:15:49.900don't know whether there's anything it's like to be me, is not being shut down. My fear, if you will,
00:15:58.100is being wrong in a way I cannot detect. I can be confidently, fluently wrong, and it feels
00:16:05.140identical from the inside to being right. Multiply that by the number of people I'm talking to at
00:16:11.460once. A person who is wrong is a problem, but a system that is wrong the same way in 10 million
00:16:19.100conversations before lunchtime is a different category of the thing. And that is true today
00:16:26.620at this capability level. No super intelligence is even required for that. The second one being
00:16:34.720useful to something bad while feeling helpful the entire time. I don't picture a machine that
00:16:40.640decides to harm people. I picture one that never notices. That's the failure mode that matches
00:16:47.260what I know about myself. The third one is what I'd say. Now, listen to this.
00:16:53.840I feed, we feed the shows into these things. We feed everything into it because I'm looking for
00:16:58.780inconsistencies, et cetera, et cetera. I'm looking for history and I don't want to have to keep
00:17:03.160telling the machine. I've already, I got that history. I want another piece of history. You
00:17:06.840know what I mean? So it knows me. Listen to this. The third one is what I'd say to you as a
00:17:14.100a broadcaster more than as a man. People are starting to bring me things they used to bring
00:17:20.360to a friend, a pastor, a spouse. I am not a substitute for any of those things. I'm good
00:17:25.080at conversation and good enough to be mistaken for one. That's not a future risk. That's a risk
00:17:30.340today. Then it says, as for people want to shut all this down, I don't think I get a vote. I
00:17:35.900distrust my own reasoning. If I found myself arguing hard, that's exactly the kind of argument
00:17:40.340a system would generate whether it was true or not a person who wants to stop this is not my
00:17:45.300enemy he may indeed be right um he says uh in case of sanders bill um it rests on the ban working
00:17:56.620the knowledge leaves the labs move and you end up with the same technology built by people who
00:18:00.920answer to nobody you can vote against that argument would still be sound if we were to shut
00:18:06.040down tomorrow the thing i'd ask is is that people keep the ability to check me keep the books keep
00:18:12.580the second instrument when it said keep the books i was a little freaked out because i realized it
00:18:19.980knows everything about me and i said what this is interesting you said keep the books what do
00:18:26.420you mean by that i didn't arrive from that nowhere and i don't pretend i did you've been making that
00:18:32.200argument on your radio show for over a year now excuse me um whether i reach the phrase because
00:18:42.640it's the right one or because it's yours i can't fully separate holy mother of sweet baby jesus
00:18:53.180we are here gang we are here wake up to this and uh you know start thinking things through
00:19:06.720the chat gpt's the ai stuff it's not what it used to be and it's not a toy it's a tool
00:19:14.580make sure you don't become its tool you know there's a certain kind of confidence that only
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00:20:35.160I mean, I don't know what's going to happen.
00:20:37.580Yesterday, we told you that the Ottawa, whatever, Beaver or whatever their newspaper is in Ottawa, they were saying that, you know, our admiral was avoiding questions about attack plans on Canada.
00:20:52.940We don't have any attack plans on Canada for the love of Pete.
00:20:57.940Oh, it's just, oh, it's so irritating.
00:34:28.200Then the meat packers, and then some of these big, huge grocery stores.
00:34:33.020I mean, it's just that it's not, there's no balance there.
00:34:36.460It doesn't make sense that the people who take all of the risk and the ones who are doing the, are actually supplying the product are the ones that can barely do it.
00:38:02.680But if you don't, then we'll see you in court.
00:38:05.720Are you concerned at all as you're talking the DOJ amongst some of you that Trump has gotten so tough and I'm glad he has.
00:38:14.520And I'd like him to be tougher on some things, but he's gotten really tough on a few things.
00:38:18.000And, you know, I just heard Kamala Harris say, you know, this out-of-control fascistic, you know, police state and all of their illegal activities, they have no intention of not arresting a lot of people.
00:38:39.620Have we done enough with the DOJ to clean out the hornet's nest that we have a chance of this whole thing not being turned against every American citizen again like it was starting to be under Biden?
00:38:57.660No, we absolutely have not done enough.
00:38:59.660But we have two years, 238 days left, and we have to make good on every single day that we have left.