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On today's show, Glenn Beck is joined by Pat Gray of Pat Gray Unleashed to discuss the latest in the hostage situation, President Trump's comments on NATO, and the Iran hostage situation. Also, there's a national security threat? Or is there? Are we being played the way Ronald Reagan played Russia in the 1980s? That and much more, on today's podcast.
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We're 132 days into the hostage situation. American hostages still left behind. Nobody seems to care.
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We talked to two parents today of their son, who was captured on October 7th.
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Had they even heard from the White House or the President as he reached out?
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Also, there's a national security threat. Or is there?
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Are we being played the way Ronald Reagan played Russia back in the 1980s?
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So Donald Trump is back in the news, standing by his threat not to defend any NATO members who don't meet the defense spending targets.
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And if you're not paying your fair share, why should we continue to pay the bulk of it to protect you?
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You signed it, live up to the treaty, and we'll live up to our side of the treaty.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
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And by the way, once he said that, lo and behold, some of the NATO countries started stepping up and going,
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And good thing I was vacuuming the couch behind the cushions there.
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Do you, I mean, have a problem with the NATO members?
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Yeah, why is he made to look like such a bad guy and like they're Ethiopia or something?
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Yeah, well, he does put things rather boldly from time to time.
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You don't think he really is going to encourage Russia to roll over every European nation?
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Well, he does have that twitchy eye, which I so appreciate in an American president.
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You know, it's like Biden has a twitchy eye, but it only affects the American people.
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Everybody else around the world are like, oh, he's insane.
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With the American people, when Biden says something, you're like, I think he's talking about us.
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Now, the other thing that Trump is doing now, he's in the news today in the Washington Examiner for talking with Tulsi Gabbard about the future of the Defense Department.
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I don't think I would have a problem with Secretary of Defense Gabbard, would you?
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I, you know, I don't know enough about her positions on defense to really say yes.
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She might be okay, but I wouldn't be my first choice.
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I mean, I would like to know more, but her stance on war is, you know, pretty much what I think all of ours are.
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But she's also, wasn't she a former fighter pilot still?
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I kind of like people running the Pentagon that have actually been at war, so they know the cost.
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I mean, she definitely is on, I think, much more aligned with the sort of new Republican leanings on this topic than the people who have been in control of previous Republican administrations, right?
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Like, I mean, look, she obviously was a very far left Democrat, right?
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I mean, and so she aligned with Bernie Sanders.
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So, you know, she, so I don't know that I would say, hey, that Bernie Sanders volunteer is, I want as a secretary of defense, but I do, she, I understand why the conversation is there.
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She's obviously, you know, has a lot to offer and talk about, and she is smart and served with honor in our, in our military, which is not nothing.
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Because he has also enamored some conservatives, but I think it's way premature to start thinking, hey, maybe RFK Jr. is the guy.
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Now, I'd like to hear her speak directly to DEI and everything else that the Pentagon is doing.
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If she wouldn't say the number one thing is to cut all of that out to the bone, it's a cancer.
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If she wouldn't say that and mean it and back it up with some actions of, you know, whatever, I'd like to see a pattern there.
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I, I like people who have been to war, know that there are times that you have to fight a war, um, but you don't have to be involved in everything.
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All we need to do is just restore the military back to the honorable military.
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Let's do what the Pentagon should do, and that is find better ways to kill people than our enemies are coming up with.
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Can we compromise on this and just, like, no more drag shows on Tuesdays?
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I think Donald Trump should announce his vice president and some of his cabinet, you know, positions.
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Who could he get that we know would be rock solid and cut all of this crap out?
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I mean, does he, I mean, does he need to do that?
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I think that's one of the questions he politically would ask there, right?
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If he could, if he could have really solid people around him, um, it would, it would bode
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And I think you could get some independents who are like, I'm not sure, you know, who's
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And, you know, quite honestly, for the independents, um, as long as they're not, no, as long as
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they're in lockstep that he's the president and they'll do what he's asking them to do.
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I, I, I think the youth of America is much more into new players that may have changed
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their minds on some things, uh, that can work together that are just there to get the job
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And if I'm not mistaken, he, uh, Trump considered Gabbard for a role previously in his administration
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and, uh, you know, they, you know, like Trump came from, we talked about this back in 2015,
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2016, Trump was always pitched in the media, like this maniac who wanted to start wars
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all the time, but really his, his history had been the opposite.
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I mean, he kind of went, he had a couple moments where, where he had gone back and forth on
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that, but he, he generally speaking has been skeptical of foreign conflicts long before
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I really appreciate now, 20 years later, I really do.
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You know, I mean, I, you know, one of the things that was kept, came out in recent reporting
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was that, uh, one of the people that Donald Trump was considering back in 2016, when he
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eventually landed on Mike Pence for VP was Nikki Haley, right?
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Like, and now here they are against each other in the primary.
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And I think, you know, you can go back and look at where Tulsi Gabbard was, you know,
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when she was supporting Bernie Sanders and say like, maybe, you know, she's had some
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But I mean, what her view is of international conflict, I think is pretty consistent with
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that view of Bernie Sanders, which is basically stay out of all of it.
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Uh, and I think pretty consistent with where Trump has generally been though, as you point
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Like his approach is more like, I'm going to have a very tough outer, uh, framing of
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You know, I'm going to, you know, we're going to rain down fire on North Korea, but that's
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The policy tends to be, uh, more restrained and trying to stay out of those things.
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And it's the, and people, you know, went after him for his Russia stuff.
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Well, his Russia policies were much more aggressive versus Russia than anything Barack Obama offered.
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Uh, he was his, he talked about trying to be friends with Vladimir Putin and talked about
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But like his actual policy towards Russia was strong, way stronger than Biden's way stronger.
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Something came out yesterday was, uh, Barbara Lee of California.
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Um, she, she argued that we, and this used to be a joke with us.
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Uh, she argued, uh, on Monday that the federal minimum wage should be $50 per hour.
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I think that brings a hamburger from McDonald's up to between 15 and $20 a burger.
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Um, you know, that, that is, that is, that shows you've never actually been a part of business
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And McDonald's would go in, uh, and they would fire absolutely every human.
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They would find a way to put automation in every fast food.
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You would lose so many jobs if you actually did that.
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And so many companies would go out of business.
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You know, at McDonald's, if you're cooking the burgers, are you really, are they going
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to have to pay every employee at least $96,000?
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I know this sounds silly and ridiculous and it is, of course, in reality, but like,
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this is a, this is, we felt the same way when they said 15 the first time.
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And like, yes, you could go and try to implement socialism.
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It's really hard, really hard to do that in America.
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It's, it's an underhanded way to get these policies in because no, of course you can't
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pay everybody $50 an hour, but the higher they get it, the more you're redistributing
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It's, it's, it's an underhanded way to implement those policies.
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I mean, I would argue it's the people who have make $0 as their minimum wage because that
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And that's what people will make because nobody can pay that.
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So they don't lose, they can lose jobs completely.
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But what happens again, you know, follow this more than a couple of steps, right?
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Like you get the situation where these people can't get jobs at all because they're not
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So they automate these jobs, they get to $0 an hour.
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And then the government comes in and takes tax money from rich people and gives it to
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And unfortunately it's much, much more successful.
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And many conservatives will jump on board, not for $50 an hour, but for raising it from
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And that federal, she's talking about San Francisco.
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If that's what you want to do in San Francisco, do that in San Francisco.
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But that is completely unreasonable for most of America, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco,
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The federal government should not be dictating to all states and cities, period.
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Investigative journalist and Blaze Media correspondent, Steve Baker, joins us now.
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You know, that was where I'd planned to spend the first quarter of this year or so.
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The FBI, the last we spoke to you, the FBI had just notified, I think your attorney,
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that they were going to come pick you up for crimes unknown yet.
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They haven't told you what it's, why they are going to arrest you, but they said they
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So, but it's, it's, uh, one of those things yet again, where the DOJ has left me hanging
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the first time after their first threat, they left me, uh, alone for 20 months and then they
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Then they left me alone for five months and then they showed up again here just before Christmas
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I think with the media, uh, uh, offensive that we did a response.
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And then they talked to my attorney just before new year's and said that my self surrender would
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I mean, just so people understand what the government is doing to people and it's not
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just Steve is happening all over with regular people.
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The DOJ is screwing with people's lives and quite honestly, their sanity.
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Imagine you're being told by the FBI with an unlimited amount of money to convict or to
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harass or to, uh, uh, build a case against you.
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You have to think, oh my gosh, at any time I may be going to jail, I may have to be fighting
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So that just, that just hangs in your life forever.
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And then they call back just as you're getting comfortable.
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It's honestly like a cancer center calling you and saying, Hey, we have your results and
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And then you don't hear from them and you can't get them on the phone.
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You released it earlier this week on, on blaze media.
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Um, and it is footage of the January 6th pipe bomb and the, well, I would say the, the elimination
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of it, but we don't actually see that set this clip up, will you?
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The first clip that we have that we released two days ago was the actual and most important
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cameras that were used in the investigation scene.
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And they, we're talking about a camera that had been in a fixed position.
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We were able to go on the CCTV camera, uh, viewing room and go back as far back as December
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And we see that that one camera number is called number 3173 had not moved for at least eight
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And then, uh, the bomb was called in by the Capitol police plainclothes officer.
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You remember we reported that here about three weeks ago.
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And then when, when that officer made that report and then we saw the very lackadaisical
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response by the secret service, letting kids walk by the pipe up within feet of the pipe
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They were literally finishing their sandwiches in their vehicle before they got out of the
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car to respond to a bomb with the vice president elect 15 feet away inside that building.
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I mean, this, this is how absurd this situation is, but nevertheless, on this camera, we see
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suddenly it is taken control of by the Capitol police command center.
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They have an area where, where their big viewing room is and where their camera operators are.
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And when that was called in four minutes after that plainclothes officer reported that, that
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camera starts zooming for the first time and it starts scanning and it's, uh, panning around
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And then it pulls back and it does this and it moves around for about 20 or 30 minutes before
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finally somebody told that camera operator to move that camera off of the investigative scene.
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And it was pitched to a hard, right, 90 degrees away from that.
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And it remained there until at least midnight of January six, because I went and looked at
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all of those videos all the way to the end of the day.
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So it is, it is amazing to me because the, if I'm not mistaken, the, well, let's watch the
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Capitol CCTV camera number 3173 was the most important camera covering the DNC pipe bomb
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You've probably already seen Thomas Massey's release of the video in which it appears that
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a Capitol police plainclothes officer has discovered the bomb and has alerted the secret service and
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the Metro police officers that were on the scene.
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You've probably also already seen the bomb sniffing dog and you may have already also seen the
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arrival of then vice president elect Kamala Harris's motorcade.
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What you haven't seen is, well, what somebody in the Capitol police command center didn't want
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And that's the actual investigation of the bomb scene.
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What we're going to show you now is how they hid that from us.
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What we were able to access from the Capitol CCTV viewing room is how long that camera number
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We were able to go back as far as December 28th of 2020, just eight days or so before the
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And from that review, we could see that the camera's positioning was in that fixed position
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But ultimately, it was only just these very few minutes after the bomb's discovery that
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The camera then began to move, pan, zoom in, looking for the bomb itself.
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The one thing that we know for sure is that camera 3173 was the most crucial of all the
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It had the closest and the clearest view of what law enforcement's response, what their
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investigation and ultimately the destruction and detonation or the attempted detonation of
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But inexplicably, and I'm getting tired of using that word every single time we do one
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But that seems to be the key word when it's related to January 6th, is that at approximately
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1.40 p.m., camera number 3173 was remotely directed away from the scene at about a 90 degree
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And then it remained in this newly fixed position away from the investigation for the rest of
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the day, or at least until midnight on January 6th.
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Now, it might be assumed that this was an error, an accident, an oversight, maybe somebody
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As we are seeing the robot deployed down the street, headed towards the bomb, someone again
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directs camera 8020, away from the investigation scene, and then affixes it once again, it seems
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like at a hard right, 90 degree angle, away from the investigation once again.
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Why would they turn those cameras away from the investigative scene?
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So, Steve, give us some updates on what else we have found.
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I know I read today that there were bomb-sniffing dogs in the area, and they gave no indication.
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And I know, because I've had a bomb-sniffing dog before, they are relentless.
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And they would have found it had it had any explosives in it, don't you think?
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I would think so, especially as haphazardly as this particular device was put together.
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This is really the latest and most developing part of this story, is we did, in fact, acquire
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the images of the destruction of this bomb by the bomb robot.
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It's up on YouTube right now, so it's about to be distributed across all the Blaze platforms
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But this is the story behind that, is that as late as 9 o'clock on Wednesday night, when
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I was supposed to have these videos in my Dropbox from Congress, I received a call from a senior
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congressional aide who said, sorry, we cannot give you these scenes and these images.
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We are being told that the technology is classified and it's sensitive in what was used to destroy
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To which I responded, Glenn, I said, BS, because I said, you can go look on the Department of
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Homeland Security's website and read the information with images and video of the exact type of water
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disruptor-disruptor cannon that was used to blow apart that bomb.
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As a matter of fact, you can buy this system yourself online.
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And the patent holder has given it away for free.
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And yet they were, the powers that be, were telling me we could not have it.
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Actually, they were lying to the Congress members and telling them that they couldn't give it to
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me because, and then what ended up happening and thank goodness you had him on here a week or so
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ago, but representative Barry Loudermilk intervened and we want to look, him and his staff have been
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just absolutely invaluable to our investigations and our research, but they intervened.
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And by seven o'clock yesterday morning, we had the video.
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I mean, this seems to me to be, um, a, a diversion, um, because the, they were both discovered
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about five minutes before the Capitol was, you know, stormed.
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It was that, do you think this was to pull Capitol police off of the Capitol and bring them
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What, what do you think this was supposed to do?
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They were diversions and they were meant to diminish the force that was available to protect
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There's no other reasonable explanation because the first bomb, the RNC bomb was found about
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10 or 15 minutes before that first barricade breach, the famous Ray Epps barricade breach
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The bomb was found about 10 minutes before that.
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This group of people storm up to the West Terrace.
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They begin to form another line up there and they've already had to divert dozens of officers
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away from the Capitol, an already diminished police force anyway, because of the COVID protocols
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and because they did not want the, as they said, they didn't want the, the, the, the optics
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of extra security there at the Capitol that day.
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And, uh, particularly guys wearing the hard units or the national guard, uh, you know,
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the, the, the, the robo cop looking guys, they didn't want any of that optics there that
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So what does it tell you that the investigators, um, weren't really allowed to investigate?
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They, they tracked one guy, uh, to, I think a home in Virginia, and then they were told
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What would the motivation be for a government that is trying to track down every grandmother
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who was anywhere near the Capitol to not pay attention to this?
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Why would they issue a $500,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of this bomber and then
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take the extra step of hiding all of the evidence from us?
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I told them when they did it, I said, just make it 5 million.
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You know, it's just, it's just so clear, you know, that there may have been, you know,
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bad guys, you know, that were Trump supporters or not Trump supporters, but there was this
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group of people and all of the real leaders, the ones who like, uh, Ray Epps were causing
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You've got the guy on the tower, uh, the scaffolding that they can't find.
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Um, it, it, it just screams set up to almost to a man, every single Capitol police officer
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retired, who left the job, who are still active with the force.
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They all believe that they were set up that day.
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The only ones who won't admit that are the existing leadership, but that's another story.
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I hope you stay out of jail, you know, that we're, we're with you.
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Um, Steve Baker, investigative journalist, uh, blaze media correspondent.
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You could find his work at blaze.com, the blaze.com or on blaze TV, more footage, as he just
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said, exclusive now being released by blaze media.
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Their son, who was decided to, uh, take a, uh, a leave of his studies, defer his studies
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He was going to serve time in the Israeli army.
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He was captured while serving as a tank commander near the Gaza border on October 7th.
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We welcome, uh, his parents now, Rona and, uh, Orna.
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He turned 22 a week after being kidnapped by Hamas.
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Um, he was born in New York City, um, one month after 9-11.
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I was working at the city at the time, and I remember clearly crossing the Queensborough
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Bridge by foot, because there was no public transportation that day, with him in my belly,
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and also thinking to myself, how can this be, that this horror is happening in New York?
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And, unfortunately, we're in this crazy terrorist act right now involved, you know, and, um,
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Uh, he grew up on Long Island, um, to some extent, an all-American kid, you know, loves
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the NBA, loves NFL, he's a basketball player, he's the captain of his, uh, he was the captain
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of his volleyball team, of the captain of the basketball team in the school, um, always
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kind of taking these leadership roles, he's, he's very friendly, he's very social, he, you
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know, he walks into a room with a lot of new kids, he thinks about the potential, you
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Orna, you, you said, you know, he was in your belly, um, on September 11th as you're
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walking across the, across the bridge, now it comes almost full circle, same kind of
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mentality, same, uh, lust for blood, um, and they took him hostage, uh, that just is such
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When did you know that he was taken hostage, and what have you heard since?
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You know, we, we had a very close relationship, although he was in Israel and we are in New
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York usually, um, and we spoke to him the night before, um, everything seemed very calm.
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Actually, it was a very tense month on the border.
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His job was to protect the villages, the kibbutzim that are on the border, and, um, it, it was
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the month of the Jewish holidays, and there was a lot of tension there, and, and, uh, and
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finally, it, it looked like things had calmed down.
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And he was just looking for, um, a relaxing weekend, you know, with his, uh, with his team.
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Um, he was looking to do some team building, and, and so, you know, we, it was like a regular
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day, and only a few hours later, you know, the war broke out.
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Well, little did we know, Glenn, that 3,000 terrorists, Hamas terrorists, will rush and
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And I'm not sure if your audience is aware of it, 40 American citizens were murdered that
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day, and 1,500 Israelis together were murdered, and they took hostage 240, uh, young babies,
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soldiers, elderly, um, women, uh, and, and, and children, as well as, as few soldiers.
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So it's outrageous, uh, what, what happened on, on October 7th.
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And right now, even though 40 Americans were killed and murdered that day, there are still
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six hostages, American hostages, kept in Gaza, under gunpoint, alive, plus two that we know
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that are dead, and their bodies are still kept in Gaza.
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So tell me, Ronan, I mean, I know you've spoken to the president, um, and, you know, I, I say
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this because if I were in your situation, I would honestly, it's, I think it's totally natural
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to say, you know, screw, we don't negotiate with terrorists.
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I would want something done, anything done to rescue my, my son.
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I mean, I don't know why we haven't sent in special forces, and it doesn't seem like this
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We're very grateful for President Biden's administration that are working around the
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clock to try and secure and release all the 134 hostages working with, uh, uh, the partners
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in the area, Egypt and Qatar, and, and of course, with Israel.
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But here's the thing, after four months, we are challenging the assumption that the release
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of the American hostages will be part of the overall release of all hostages.
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Our boy, together with five other living Americans, has been held hostage and is not released by
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And we're very, very worried because the conditions there are terrible.
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What needs to happen, Glenn, for United States to step up and say, we are going to save our
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I have to tell you, it's not just about your son.
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By not doing these things, you, you make it dangerous for Americans all around the world.
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You cannot take American citizens and hold them hostage.
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We have to respond to this, um, by trying to rescue them.
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Uh, and, uh, it just, it's just so muddy and murky now with the world.
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I mean, it, to me, it is so crystal clear, um, you are dealing with barbarians and, uh, you,
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And I, you know, I just wish that I had confidence in our, uh, in our nation right now that we
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could even pull something off and, and find them.
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When, what is the last, how do you know your, I don't mean to be horrible on this.
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So, first of all, I want to say that it is very complicated, Glenn, because as far as
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we understand, they're being held in this underground, you know, maze of tunnels, right?
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And, and a rescue, um, attempt such as you're suggesting could be very, very dangerous.
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So, you know, I'm not saying, honestly, I want you to know, I'm not suggesting a plan.
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I just don't feel like the American people are even really aware, um, or care.
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The media certainly doesn't seem to feel that way.
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I think we're the only broadcast that every day we have a counter on the side of the screen
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that says American hostages still in Gaza day today is 132.
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I, I mean, I felt the same way when it happened to our hostages in Iran.
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This is even a more complex situation because we're not dealing with a nation.
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And we really appreciate you having the day clock on, on yours.
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We are wearing a daily badge right now, 132 days.
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I can't even believe that we have reached such a, you know, milestone of over four months.
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And we are urging all the partners, and we're putting a lot of pressure.
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We're putting a lot of pressure on the Netanyahu administration to negotiate.
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Part of the issues that we see right now is that the negotiation is not going in the right direction.
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All the parties were in Cairo this week, and Prime Minister Netanyahu pulled the Israeli representatives
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So can I ask you, because this is such a complex thing, you know, Netanyahu is getting a lot
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of heat from the United Nations and many nations who, again, I don't think really care about
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or understand, not that I do, what it's like to be a Jew.
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There's no place safe on Earth except perhaps Israel because you have a right to defend yourself.
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Everywhere else, it's like you're just a visitor.
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And every time the world goes into this kind of darkness, that's when countries just start
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And I got to tell you, I would not negotiate with these people if it meant that we had to
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leave some of them, you know, still in charge with capabilities to do this again, because
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I want to also, you know, you mentioned that Israel is the only Jewish state, really, and
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And both my father and Ronan's father are Holocaust survivors.
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And yes, and they came to Israel and were of the founders of Israel exactly for this reason.
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And again, you know, it's just unfathomable that, you know, my father has to be in this
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predicament where he knows that his grandchild was abducted by this terrorist organization
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that just broke into the borders of this country.
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And like you said, we have to fight over the empathy and the narrative of all of this
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that's going on right now to defend ourselves in this situation.
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And that's exactly why our son, Omer, part of the reasons why he decided to move to Israel
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to get to know the country and to serve the country is because of his heritage, his understanding
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And unfortunately, he was in that spot next to the Gaza border when he was abducted.
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I met with the prime minister of Qatar in Doha.
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I urged him and I thanked him for what he did for the first release.
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They have to put all the possible pressure on Hamas to release all the other hostages.
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And of course, the Americans, six Americans among them.
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I want to urge you, if you want to learn more about this, you can go to stories.bringthemhomenow.net.
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I don't know what the solution is, Orna and Ronan, but we will pray for your son and all
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And just as a dad, my heart goes out to both of you.