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00:02:03.660 So Donald Trump is back in the news, standing by his threat not to defend any NATO members who don't meet the defense spending targets.

00:02:15.980 He's made into looking like a big bad guy.

00:02:18.860 This is a treaty.

00:02:20.520 This is something that we all agreed to.

00:02:22.320 And if you're not paying your fair share, why should we continue to pay the bulk of it to protect you?

00:02:30.720 No, this is a treaty.

00:02:32.040 You signed it, live up to the treaty, and we'll live up to our side of the treaty.

00:02:36.580 I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

00:02:38.380 And by the way, once he said that, lo and behold, some of the NATO countries started stepping up and going,

00:02:44.360 I just found this in my couch.

00:02:47.320 I thought I had delivered it to NATO.

00:02:51.040 And good thing I was vacuuming the couch behind the cushions there.

00:02:57.260 I don't have a problem with this.

00:02:59.080 Pat Gray joins us from Pat Gray Unleashed.

00:03:01.160 Hello, Pat.

00:03:01.820 Hello.

00:03:03.400 How are things, Glenn?

00:03:04.140 Do you, I mean, have a problem with the NATO members?

00:03:07.780 Ponying up?

00:03:08.440 Why is Donald Trump?

00:03:08.920 No.

00:03:09.320 Yeah, why is he made to look like such a bad guy and like they're Ethiopia or something? 0.98

00:03:17.200 Yeah, well, he does put things rather boldly from time to time.

00:03:22.180 Yeah.

00:03:22.700 But I personally appreciate that.

00:03:24.280 And I've gotten used to it.

00:03:25.220 It's like, okay, come on.

00:03:26.600 You know he uses hyperbole.

00:03:28.200 So relax on that, would you please?

00:03:31.240 You don't think he really is going to encourage Russia to roll over every European nation?

00:03:35.360 I'm thinking probably not.

00:03:36.360 Probably not.

00:03:37.080 Probably not.

00:03:37.640 Yeah.

00:03:38.820 So yeah, I'm not offended by it, frankly.

00:03:41.700 Well, he does have that twitchy eye, which I so appreciate in an American president.

00:03:47.440 Yeah.

00:03:47.660 You know, it's like Biden has a twitchy eye, but it only affects the American people. 0.96

00:03:53.380 Everybody else around the world are like, oh, he's insane. 0.91

00:03:56.380 And now's our time.

00:03:59.100 With the American people, when Biden says something, you're like, I think he's talking about us.

00:04:03.780 Yeah, I think he's going to attack Texas.

00:04:06.200 We should maybe take cover.

00:04:08.620 I think he might nuke Houston.

00:04:09.960 I'm not really sure.

00:04:12.480 Now, the other thing that Trump is doing now, he's in the news today in the Washington Examiner for talking with Tulsi Gabbard about the future of the Defense Department.

00:04:24.000 I don't think I would have a problem with Secretary of Defense Gabbard, would you?

00:04:33.060 I, you know, I don't know enough about her positions on defense to really say yes.

00:04:41.080 She might be okay, but I wouldn't be my first choice.

00:04:44.340 That's for sure.

00:04:44.900 I mean, I would like to know more, but her stance on war is, you know, pretty much what I think all of ours are.

00:04:54.280 Stay out of it.

00:04:55.420 But she's also, wasn't she a former fighter pilot still?

00:04:59.920 Yeah.

00:05:00.820 Yeah.

00:05:01.340 She was in the military.

00:05:02.240 Do you remember that?

00:05:03.080 Yeah.

00:05:03.320 You know.

00:05:04.560 And actually in wars.

00:05:06.480 I kind of like people running the Pentagon that have actually been at war, so they know the cost.

00:05:12.720 Yeah.

00:05:13.260 Yeah.

00:05:13.660 I mean, she definitely is on, I think, much more aligned with the sort of new Republican leanings on this topic than the people who have been in control of previous Republican administrations, right?

00:05:30.080 Like, I mean, look, she obviously was a very far left Democrat, right?

00:05:34.600 I mean, and so she aligned with Bernie Sanders.

00:05:37.300 Bernie Sanders.

00:05:37.820 So, you know, she, so I don't know that I would say, hey, that Bernie Sanders volunteer is, I want as a secretary of defense, but I do, she, I understand why the conversation is there.

00:05:49.780 She's obviously, you know, has a lot to offer and talk about, and she is smart and served with honor in our, in our military, which is not nothing.

00:05:59.220 It's a big deal.

00:05:59.920 She reminds me of RFK Jr.

00:06:01.800 Because he has also enamored some conservatives, but I think it's way premature to start thinking, hey, maybe RFK Jr. is the guy.

00:06:11.000 No.

00:06:11.840 Right.

00:06:12.280 No.

00:06:12.760 No.

00:06:13.480 No.

00:06:13.660 Please.

00:06:14.300 No.

00:06:14.400 But Tulsi, I have, I've seen enough of Tulsi.

00:06:16.980 Now, I'd like to hear her speak directly to DEI and everything else that the Pentagon is doing.

00:06:23.660 If she wouldn't say the number one thing is to cut all of that out to the bone, it's a cancer.

00:06:31.080 If she wouldn't say that and mean it and back it up with some actions of, you know, whatever, I'd like to see a pattern there.

00:06:39.480 Um, uh, but I, I would be fine with her.

00:06:43.680 I, I like people who have been to war, know that there are times that you have to fight a war, um, but you don't have to be involved in everything.

00:06:51.960 All we need to do is just restore the military back to the honorable military.

00:06:57.840 It used to be, you know, no more drag shows. 0.99

00:07:00.640 Um, quite honestly, let's not focus on that.

00:07:03.920 Let's do what the Pentagon should do, and that is find better ways to kill people than our enemies are coming up with.

00:07:15.260 Can we compromise on this and just, like, no more drag shows on Tuesdays?

00:07:18.440 Keep the weekends a free flow of time.

00:07:20.700 No, I think I'm going to.

00:07:21.020 You know, I think you've got to have some.

00:07:22.320 No, I don't think so.

00:07:22.840 None?

00:07:23.280 Yeah, no.

00:07:23.960 No, none.

00:07:24.820 Wow.

00:07:25.180 Um, I, you know, I tell you.

00:07:27.780 Wow.

00:07:28.180 I think Donald Trump should announce his vice president and some of his cabinet, you know, positions.

00:07:37.000 He should look at secretary of defense. 0.98

00:07:39.500 Who could he get that we know would be rock solid and cut all of this crap out? 0.99

00:07:47.060 Yeah. 0.96

00:07:47.740 I mean, does he, I mean, does he need to do that?

00:07:50.220 I think that's one of the questions he politically would ask there, right?

00:07:53.960 Like, does he.

00:07:54.920 Maybe for the general.

00:07:56.040 Yeah, maybe for the general.

00:07:57.060 He certainly doesn't need it now.

00:07:58.640 No, he doesn't need it for the primary.

00:07:59.640 No.

00:08:00.300 That's good.

00:08:00.780 No.

00:08:01.120 Not in question.

00:08:02.020 If he could, if he could have really solid people around him, um, it would, it would bode

00:08:08.940 well.

00:08:09.380 And I think you could get some independents who are like, I'm not sure, you know, who's

00:08:14.920 really, really strong, uh, on defense.

00:08:18.220 And, you know, quite honestly, for the independents, um, as long as they're not, no, as long as

00:08:26.180 they're in lockstep that he's the president and they'll do what he's asking them to do.

00:08:32.520 Um, yeah.

00:08:34.140 I, I don't mind people like Tulsi Gabbard.

00:08:36.260 I, I, I think the youth of America is much more into new players that may have changed

00:08:44.600 their minds on some things, uh, that can work together that are just there to get the job

00:08:50.300 done.

00:08:50.740 And if I'm not mistaken, he, uh, Trump considered Gabbard for a role previously in his administration

00:08:57.400 and, uh, you know, they, you know, like Trump came from, we talked about this back in 2015,

00:09:02.940 2016, Trump was always pitched in the media, like this maniac who wanted to start wars

00:09:09.080 all the time, but really his, his history had been the opposite.

00:09:12.440 I mean, he'd always been a guy.

00:09:14.060 He was opposed to going into Iraq even.

00:09:15.540 Most of the time.

00:09:16.300 Most of the time.

00:09:16.840 I mean, he kind of went, he had a couple moments where, where he had gone back and forth on

00:09:20.200 that, but he, he generally speaking has been skeptical of foreign conflicts long before

00:09:25.220 he was president in the United States.

00:09:26.520 I really appreciate now, 20 years later, I really do.

00:09:29.660 And look, people change too.

00:09:31.000 You know, I mean, I, you know, one of the things that was kept, came out in recent reporting

00:09:34.400 was that, uh, one of the people that Donald Trump was considering back in 2016, when he

00:09:39.420 eventually landed on Mike Pence for VP was Nikki Haley, right? 0.77

00:09:43.140 Like, and now here they are against each other in the primary.

00:09:46.400 Like, so there are, you know, people change.

00:09:48.980 And I think, you know, you can go back and look at where Tulsi Gabbard was, you know,

00:09:53.120 when she was supporting Bernie Sanders and say like, maybe, you know, she's had some

00:09:57.180 awakenings on some of those fronts.

00:09:58.880 But I mean, what her view is of international conflict, I think is pretty consistent with

00:10:03.460 that view of Bernie Sanders, which is basically stay out of all of it.

00:10:06.780 Uh, and I think pretty consistent with where Trump has generally been though, as you point

00:10:11.720 out, his approach is certainly different.

00:10:13.480 Like his approach is more like, I'm going to have a very tough outer, uh, framing of

00:10:19.160 these things.

00:10:19.660 You know, I'm going to, you know, we're going to rain down fire on North Korea, but that's 1.00

00:10:25.220 a statement, not a policy.

00:10:27.060 The policy tends to be, uh, more restrained and trying to stay out of those things.

00:10:32.500 And it's the, and people, you know, went after him for his Russia stuff.

00:10:36.380 Well, his Russia policies were much more aggressive versus Russia than anything Barack Obama offered.

00:10:43.380 Uh, he was his, he talked about trying to be friends with Vladimir Putin and talked about

00:10:48.400 trying to smooth those things over.

00:10:49.720 But like his actual policy towards Russia was strong, way stronger than Biden's way stronger.

00:10:56.240 Oh, that's for sure.

00:10:57.520 At least going back years for sure.

00:10:59.980 So let me switch topics here.

00:11:02.420 Something came out yesterday was, uh, Barbara Lee of California.

00:11:06.740 Um, she, she argued that we, and this used to be a joke with us.

00:11:13.020 Uh, she argued, uh, on Monday that the federal minimum wage should be $50 per hour. 1.00

00:11:21.240 And she said, it's all about math.

00:11:25.260 Just do the math.

00:11:26.820 And I've done the math.

00:11:28.300 I think that brings a hamburger from McDonald's up to between 15 and $20 a burger.

00:11:35.820 Um, you know, that, that is, that is, that shows you've never actually been a part of business

00:11:44.760 or understand how business works.

00:11:48.160 That would mean massive unemployment.

00:11:51.860 Oh my gosh.

00:11:52.520 McDonald's and all of them.

00:11:55.020 Yeah.

00:11:55.720 And McDonald's would go in, uh, and they would fire absolutely every human.

00:12:01.540 They would find a way to put automation in every fast food.

00:12:06.880 You would lose so many jobs if you actually did that.

00:12:10.780 And so many companies would go out of business.

00:12:12.800 It's $96,000 a year.

00:12:14.940 You know, at McDonald's, if you're cooking the burgers, are you really, are they going

00:12:21.900 to have to pay every employee at least $96,000?

00:12:26.100 That can't happen.

00:12:27.200 It just can't happen.

00:12:28.080 Minimum wage.

00:12:29.800 Right.

00:12:30.140 It means that that is for the entry level.

00:12:33.900 That's for the new workers.

00:12:36.040 It's not meant to support a family of six.

00:12:37.940 No.

00:12:38.620 It's not meant for that. 0.52

00:12:39.220 I know this sounds silly and ridiculous and it is, of course, in reality, but like,

00:12:45.200 this is a, this is, we felt the same way when they said 15 the first time. 0.76

00:12:49.960 Yeah.

00:12:50.580 And now these places are all doing this.

00:12:53.200 And like, yes, you could go and try to implement socialism.

00:12:56.500 It's really hard, really hard to do that in America.

00:12:59.120 But you know what has an 85% approval rating?

00:13:02.300 Raising the minimum wage.

00:13:03.660 Yeah.

00:13:03.920 And they do this all the time.

00:13:05.200 It's, it's an underhanded way to get these policies in because no, of course you can't

00:13:10.380 pay everybody $50 an hour, but the higher they get it, the more you're redistributing

00:13:15.760 wealth, but that's what they're doing.

00:13:18.120 It's, it's, it's an underhanded way to implement those policies.

00:13:21.280 Except who does it hurt the most?

00:13:23.740 I mean, I would argue it's the people who have make $0 as their minimum wage because that

00:13:29.040 is the actual minimum.

00:13:30.820 And that's what people will make because nobody can pay that.

00:13:33.660 Yeah.

00:13:34.040 So they don't lose, they can lose jobs completely.

00:13:36.420 But what happens again, you know, follow this more than a couple of steps, right?

00:13:40.680 Like you get the situation where these people can't get jobs at all because they're not

00:13:44.040 worth $50 an hour.

00:13:45.300 So they automate these jobs, they get to $0 an hour.

00:13:48.740 And then the government comes in and takes tax money from rich people and gives it to

00:13:52.780 them.

00:13:53.140 It's the exact policy they want to implement.

00:13:55.240 It's just another way of doing it.

00:13:57.100 And unfortunately it's much, much more successful.

00:13:59.360 And many conservatives will jump on board, not for $50 an hour, but for raising it from

00:14:05.320 wherever it is, 25, 18, whatever it is, 25.

00:14:08.880 And that federal, she's talking about San Francisco.

00:14:13.620 Fine.

00:14:14.220 If that's what you want to do in San Francisco, do that in San Francisco.

00:14:16.980 But that is completely unreasonable for most of America, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco,

00:14:24.000 maybe, so you do that.

00:14:27.540 The federal government should not be dictating to all states and cities, period.

00:14:34.740 Shouldn't be.

00:14:36.120 All right.

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00:16:36.220 Investigative journalist and Blaze Media correspondent, Steve Baker, joins us now.

00:16:42.380 Hi, Steve.

00:16:43.040 Hey, good morning, Glenn.

00:16:44.480 Weren't you supposed to be in jail by now?

00:16:46.500 Yeah.

00:16:47.040 You know, that was where I'd planned to spend the first quarter of this year or so.

00:16:52.680 The FBI, the last we spoke to you, the FBI had just notified, I think your attorney,

00:16:58.720 that they were going to come pick you up for crimes unknown yet.

00:17:04.000 They haven't told you what it's, why they are going to arrest you, but they said they

00:17:08.960 would be doing it in January.

00:17:10.240 Did they not?

00:17:11.040 Yeah.

00:17:11.440 Crimes against humanity.

00:17:12.680 That's what I'm calling it right now myself.

00:17:14.560 Okay.

00:17:14.640 Yeah.

00:17:14.960 So, but it's, it's, uh, one of those things yet again, where the DOJ has left me hanging

00:17:22.300 the first time after their first threat, they left me, uh, alone for 20 months and then they

00:17:27.000 showed up again with a grand jury subpoena.

00:17:29.460 Then they left me alone for five months and then they showed up again here just before Christmas

00:17:34.200 and, uh, we backed them off.

00:17:36.080 I think with the media, uh, uh, offensive that we did a response.

00:17:41.680 And then they talked to my attorney just before new year's and said that my self surrender would

00:17:47.780 be required sometime in mid January.

00:17:50.220 They'd give me seven, 10 days notice of that.

00:17:53.460 And then they went silent again.

00:17:55.720 And so we haven't heard from them.

00:17:56.840 Here we are mid February and we know nothing.

00:17:58.780 I mean, just so people understand what the government is doing to people and it's not

00:18:03.720 just Steve is happening all over with regular people.

00:18:07.660 The DOJ is screwing with people's lives and quite honestly, their sanity.

00:18:14.480 Imagine you're being told by the FBI with an unlimited amount of money to convict or to

00:18:22.700 harass or to, uh, uh, build a case against you.

00:18:26.960 You have to think, oh my gosh, at any time I may be going to jail, I may have to be fighting

00:18:32.660 this and none of this is true.

00:18:35.800 And then they just leave.

00:18:37.520 So that just, that just hangs in your life forever.

00:18:41.960 And then they call back just as you're getting comfortable.

00:18:44.500 I guess they forgot about me.

00:18:45.680 They call back.

00:18:46.620 It's honestly like a cancer center calling you and saying, Hey, we have your results and

00:18:51.540 it looks like you have cancer.

00:18:53.340 Uh, we'll, we'll let you know next week.

00:18:55.500 And then you don't hear from them and you can't get them on the phone.

00:18:59.420 Right.

00:18:59.880 Do I have cancer or not?

00:19:01.540 It's really cruel, really cruel.

00:19:05.060 Um, all right.

00:19:05.820 So Steve, you have, uh, brought us footage.

00:19:09.440 Now this is never before seen.

00:19:11.280 You released it earlier this week on, on blaze media.

00:19:13.840 Um, and it is footage of the January 6th pipe bomb and the, well, I would say the, the elimination

00:19:22.620 of it, but we don't actually see that set this clip up, will you?

00:19:27.540 Yeah.

00:19:27.660 The first clip that we have that we released two days ago was the actual and most important

00:19:34.980 cameras that were used in the investigation scene.

00:19:38.360 And they, we're talking about a camera that had been in a fixed position.

00:19:42.400 We were able to go on the CCTV camera, uh, viewing room and go back as far back as December

00:19:47.700 28th of 2020 and look.

00:19:49.420 And we see that that one camera number is called number 3173 had not moved for at least eight

00:19:55.500 days, eight days prior to January 6th.

00:19:58.700 And then, uh, the bomb was called in by the Capitol police plainclothes officer.

00:20:04.300 You remember we reported that here about three weeks ago.

00:20:07.560 And then when, when that officer made that report and then we saw the very lackadaisical

00:20:14.080 response by the secret service, letting kids walk by the pipe up within feet of the pipe

00:20:21.220 bomb.

00:20:21.920 Yeah.

00:20:22.340 Glenn, they didn't do it.

00:20:23.100 They were literally finishing their sandwiches in their vehicle before they got out of the

00:20:28.840 car to respond to a bomb with the vice president elect 15 feet away inside that building.

00:20:37.040 I mean, this, this is how absurd this situation is, but nevertheless, on this camera, we see

00:20:43.560 suddenly it is taken control of by the Capitol police command center.

00:20:47.620 They have an area where, where their big viewing room is and where their camera operators are.

00:20:51.740 It's called the pit.

00:20:52.700 And when that was called in four minutes after that plainclothes officer reported that, that

00:20:58.800 camera starts zooming for the first time and it starts scanning and it's, uh, panning around

00:21:03.520 and it's looking for the bomb.

00:21:04.820 And then it pulls back and it does this and it moves around for about 20 or 30 minutes before

00:21:09.840 finally somebody told that camera operator to move that camera off of the investigative scene.

00:21:19.000 And it was pitched to a hard, right, 90 degrees away from that.

00:21:23.100 And it remained there until at least midnight of January six, because I went and looked at

00:21:28.180 all of those videos all the way to the end of the day.

00:21:30.960 So it is, it is amazing to me because the, if I'm not mistaken, the, well, let's watch the

00:21:37.340 report.

00:21:37.780 Here it is.

00:21:38.240 Capitol CCTV camera number 3173 was the most important camera covering the DNC pipe bomb

00:21:50.340 story event.

00:21:52.580 You've probably already seen Thomas Massey's release of the video in which it appears that

00:22:00.020 a Capitol police plainclothes officer has discovered the bomb and has alerted the secret service and

00:22:05.420 the Metro police officers that were on the scene.

00:22:07.740 You've probably also already seen the bomb sniffing dog and you may have already also seen the

00:22:14.540 arrival of then vice president elect Kamala Harris's motorcade.

00:22:20.520 What you haven't seen is, well, what somebody in the Capitol police command center didn't want

00:22:25.520 us to see.

00:22:26.580 And that's the actual investigation of the bomb scene.

00:22:30.240 What we're going to show you now is how they hid that from us.

00:22:38.220 What we were able to access from the Capitol CCTV viewing room is how long that camera number

00:22:46.280 3173 had remained in that fixed position.

00:22:50.100 We were able to go back as far as December 28th of 2020, just eight days or so before the

00:22:55.800 events of January six.

00:22:56.880 And from that review, we could see that the camera's positioning was in that fixed position

00:23:02.960 for days, weeks, months.

00:23:05.180 But ultimately, it was only just these very few minutes after the bomb's discovery that

00:23:11.540 that camera began to move.

00:23:13.600 The camera then began to move, pan, zoom in, looking for the bomb itself.

00:23:24.200 The one thing that we know for sure is that camera 3173 was the most crucial of all the

00:23:29.340 cameras.

00:23:29.780 It had the closest and the clearest view of what law enforcement's response, what their

00:23:34.860 investigation and ultimately the destruction and detonation or the attempted detonation of

00:23:40.400 the bomb would be by the bomb squad robot.

00:23:44.420 But inexplicably, and I'm getting tired of using that word every single time we do one

00:23:50.200 of these investigations.

00:23:51.080 But that seems to be the key word when it's related to January 6th, is that at approximately

00:23:57.520 1.40 p.m., camera number 3173 was remotely directed away from the scene at about a 90 degree

00:24:06.840 angle.

00:24:07.660 And then it remained in this newly fixed position away from the investigation for the rest of

00:24:14.160 the day, or at least until midnight on January 6th.

00:24:18.080 Now, it might be assumed that this was an error, an accident, an oversight, maybe somebody

00:24:24.360 bumped the joystick on camera number 3173.

00:24:28.100 Until we then review camera number 8020.

00:24:32.260 As we are seeing the robot deployed down the street, headed towards the bomb, someone again

00:24:41.000 directs camera 8020, away from the investigation scene, and then affixes it once again, it seems

00:24:50.460 like at a hard right, 90 degree angle, away from the investigation once again.

00:24:58.660 It's incredible.

00:24:59.980 Why would they turn those cameras away from the investigative scene?

00:25:09.260 Who ordered those cameras to be turned away? 0.57

00:25:13.720 What were we not allowed to see?

00:25:17.200 All right.

00:25:17.920 So, Steve, give us some updates on what else we have found.

00:25:22.000 I know I read today that there were bomb-sniffing dogs in the area, and they gave no indication.

00:25:31.660 And I know, because I've had a bomb-sniffing dog before, they are relentless.

00:25:40.260 And they would have found it had it had any explosives in it, don't you think?

00:25:45.120 I would think so, especially as haphazardly as this particular device was put together.

00:25:52.140 And this is even more important, Glenn.

00:25:55.580 This is really the latest and most developing part of this story, is we did, in fact, acquire

00:26:01.240 the images of the destruction of this bomb by the bomb robot.

00:26:06.980 In fact, we now have it up.

00:26:09.000 It's up on YouTube right now, so it's about to be distributed across all the Blaze platforms

00:26:12.620 today.

00:26:13.380 It is now up.

00:26:15.440 But this is the story behind that, is that as late as 9 o'clock on Wednesday night, when

00:26:23.040 I was supposed to have these videos in my Dropbox from Congress, I received a call from a senior

00:26:29.180 congressional aide who said, sorry, we cannot give you these scenes and these images.

00:26:34.220 Why?

00:26:34.560 We are being told that the technology is classified and it's sensitive in what was used to destroy

00:26:42.980 the pipe bomb at the DNC headquarters.

00:26:45.440 To which I responded, Glenn, I said, BS, because I said, you can go look on the Department of

00:26:54.680 Homeland Security's website and read the information with images and video of the exact type of water

00:27:06.460 disruptor-disruptor cannon that was used to blow apart that bomb.

00:27:10.240 And it's available freely to the public.

00:27:12.680 As a matter of fact, you can buy this system yourself online.

00:27:16.260 And the patent holder has given it away for free.

00:27:20.040 Anybody can use it.

00:27:21.540 And yet they were, the powers that be, were telling me we could not have it.

00:27:26.680 Actually, they were lying to the Congress members and telling them that they couldn't give it to

00:27:30.800 me because, and then what ended up happening and thank goodness you had him on here a week or so

00:27:35.700 ago, but representative Barry Loudermilk intervened and we want to look, him and his staff have been

00:27:43.260 just absolutely invaluable to our investigations and our research, but they intervened.

00:27:48.680 And by seven o'clock yesterday morning, we had the video.

00:27:54.300 And that's available right now.

00:27:56.520 Right now.

00:27:57.080 And it'll be on Blaze TV.

00:27:59.240 It will be on theblaze.com and all of our, all of our platforms.

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00:29:20.440 So Steve, where does this go from here?

00:29:23.200 I mean, this seems to me to be, um, a, a diversion, um, because the, they were both discovered

00:29:33.280 about five minutes before the Capitol was, you know, stormed.

00:29:39.000 It was that, do you think this was to pull Capitol police off of the Capitol and bring them

00:29:47.240 here?

00:29:47.640 What, what do you think this was supposed to do?

00:29:50.140 They were diversions and they were meant to diminish the force that was available to protect

00:29:56.880 the Capitol that day.

00:29:57.940 There's just no other way.

00:29:59.560 There's no other reasonable explanation because the first bomb, the RNC bomb was found about

00:30:04.420 10 or 15 minutes before that first barricade breach, the famous Ray Epps barricade breach

00:30:09.140 line happened.

00:30:10.140 That happened at, uh, 1252 PM.

00:30:12.960 The bomb was found about 10 minutes before that.

00:30:15.080 Then the bomb or the breach happens at 1252.

00:30:18.620 This group of people storm up to the West Terrace.

00:30:21.980 They begin to form another line up there and they've already had to divert dozens of officers

00:30:28.200 away from the Capitol, an already diminished police force anyway, because of the COVID protocols

00:30:35.240 and because they did not want the, as they said, they didn't want the, the, the, the optics

00:30:42.440 of extra security there at the Capitol that day.

00:30:45.900 And, uh, particularly guys wearing the hard units or the national guard, uh, you know,

00:30:50.080 the, the, the, the robo cop looking guys, they didn't want any of that optics there that

00:30:53.900 day.

00:30:54.120 So what does it tell you that the investigators, um, weren't really allowed to investigate?

00:31:02.060 They, they tracked one guy, uh, to, I think a home in Virginia, and then they were told

00:31:09.420 go away, uh, by the FBI, just leave it alone.

00:31:13.640 There's nothing to see here.

00:31:14.800 What would the motivation be for a government that is trying to track down every grandmother 0.94

00:31:22.520 who was anywhere near the Capitol to not pay attention to this?

00:31:28.420 Why would they issue a $500,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of this bomber and then

00:31:37.260 take the extra step of hiding all of the evidence from us?

00:31:42.300 I told them when they did it, I said, just make it 5 million.

00:31:45.280 You're not planning on giving it away anyway.

00:31:49.320 You know, it's just, it's just so clear, you know, that there may have been, you know,

00:31:56.180 bad guys, you know, that were Trump supporters or not Trump supporters, but there was this

00:32:01.880 group of people and all of the real leaders, the ones who like, uh, Ray Epps were causing

00:32:09.860 people to go in and encouraging them to go in.

00:32:13.640 You've got the guy on the tower, uh, the scaffolding that they can't find.

00:32:18.500 They've got the two pipe bomb people.

00:32:20.440 You can't find them.

00:32:21.980 Um, it, it, it just screams set up to almost to a man, every single Capitol police officer

00:32:32.560 retired, who left the job, who are still active with the force.

00:32:37.980 They all believe that they were set up that day.

00:32:40.160 The only ones who won't admit that are the existing leadership, but that's another story.

00:32:44.720 And we're working on that as well.

00:32:46.620 Hmm.

00:32:47.640 Steve, thank you so much.

00:32:48.840 I hope you stay out of jail, you know, that we're, we're with you.

00:32:53.300 Um, Steve Baker, investigative journalist, uh, blaze media correspondent.

00:32:58.460 You could find his work at blaze.com, the blaze.com or on blaze TV, more footage, as he just

00:33:06.420 said, exclusive now being released by blaze media.

00:33:11.780 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:33:13.760 Ronan and Orna Nutra are joining me now.

00:33:22.140 They are in Israel currently.

00:33:23.780 Their son, who was decided to, uh, take a, uh, a leave of his studies, defer his studies

00:33:30.700 at, um, the university in New York.

00:33:33.660 He was going to serve time in the Israeli army.

00:33:37.900 He was captured while serving as a tank commander near the Gaza border on October 7th.

00:33:44.900 We welcome, uh, his parents now, Rona and, uh, Orna.

00:33:50.960 Ronan.

00:33:51.800 Thank you.

00:33:52.440 Thank you for having us.

00:33:55.080 You bet.

00:33:56.460 Um, thank you, Orna.

00:33:58.440 Uh, tell me about, first of all, your son.

00:34:01.300 Who was he?

00:34:04.440 What did he, what was he doing?

00:34:06.400 Yeah, so, uh, Omer, um, is 22 years old.

00:34:11.280 He turned 22 a week after being kidnapped by Hamas.

00:34:16.880 Um, he was born in New York City, um, one month after 9-11.

00:34:22.960 I was working at the city at the time, and I remember clearly crossing the Queensborough

00:34:29.440 Bridge by foot, because there was no public transportation that day, with him in my belly,

00:34:34.820 and also thinking to myself, how can this be, that this horror is happening in New York?

00:34:41.660 And, unfortunately, we're in this crazy terrorist act right now involved, you know, and, um,

00:34:49.680 so, so he, he was born in New York.

00:34:51.640 Uh, he grew up on Long Island, um, to some extent, an all-American kid, you know, loves

00:34:57.740 the NBA, loves NFL, he's a basketball player, he's the captain of his, uh, he was the captain

00:35:05.500 of his volleyball team, of the captain of the basketball team in the school, um, always

00:35:11.640 kind of taking these leadership roles, he's, he's very friendly, he's very social, he, you

00:35:18.200 know, he walks into a room with a lot of new kids, he thinks about the potential, you

00:35:22.400 know, who's going to be my friend?

00:35:24.580 And, um, yeah.

00:35:27.280 So, um, yeah.

00:35:30.680 Orna, you, you said, you know, he was in your belly, um, on September 11th as you're

00:35:36.340 walking across the, across the bridge, now it comes almost full circle, same kind of

00:35:43.320 mentality, same, uh, lust for blood, um, and they took him hostage, uh, that just is such

00:35:53.140 an incredible loop there.

00:35:55.080 When did you know that he was taken hostage, and what have you heard since?

00:36:02.300 So, um, we spoke to him on October 6th.

00:36:05.520 You know, we, we had a very close relationship, although he was in Israel and we are in New

00:36:10.580 York usually, um, and we spoke to him the night before, um, everything seemed very calm.

00:36:18.120 Actually, it was a very tense month on the border.

00:36:21.580 His job was to protect the villages, the kibbutzim that are on the border, and, um, it, it was 0.95

00:36:29.080 the month of the Jewish holidays, and there was a lot of tension there, and, and, uh, and

00:36:34.260 finally, it, it looked like things had calmed down.

00:36:37.880 Um, now we know it was, you know, all planned.

00:36:41.760 Calm before the storm, yeah.

00:36:43.440 Yeah.

00:36:44.120 And he was just looking for, um, a relaxing weekend, you know, with his, uh, with his team.

00:36:50.260 Um, he was looking to do some team building, and, and so, you know, we, it was like a regular

00:36:57.580 day, and only a few hours later, you know, the war broke out.

00:37:01.580 Well, little did we know, Glenn, that 3,000 terrorists, Hamas terrorists, will rush and 0.84

00:37:08.140 gush into Israel, kill 40 American citizens. 0.96

00:37:13.540 And I'm not sure if your audience is aware of it, 40 American citizens were murdered that

00:37:19.560 day, and 1,500 Israelis together were murdered, and they took hostage 240, uh, young babies,

00:37:32.020 soldiers, elderly, um, women, uh, and, and, and children, as well as, as few soldiers.

00:37:42.620 So it's outrageous, uh, what, what happened on, on October 7th.

00:37:47.840 And I don't think a lot of people realize it.

00:37:49.960 And right now, even though 40 Americans were killed and murdered that day, there are still

00:37:57.980 six hostages, American hostages, kept in Gaza, under gunpoint, alive, plus two that we know

00:38:07.840 that are dead, and their bodies are still kept in Gaza.

00:38:10.960 So tell me, Ronan, I mean, I know you've spoken to the president, um, and, you know, I, I say

00:38:19.140 this because if I were in your situation, I would honestly, it's, I think it's totally natural

00:38:25.920 to say, you know, screw, we don't negotiate with terrorists.

00:38:29.780 I would want something done, anything done to rescue my, my son.

00:38:34.800 But I don't feel like enough is being done.

00:38:39.420 I mean, I don't know why we haven't sent in special forces, and it doesn't seem like this

00:38:44.980 is a priority, uh, for America.

00:38:49.060 Do you feel that way?

00:38:50.240 I am not sure.

00:38:52.920 Let me tell you how I feel.

00:38:54.880 We're very grateful for President Biden's administration that are working around the

00:38:59.220 clock to try and secure and release all the 134 hostages working with, uh, uh, the partners

00:39:07.880 in the area, Egypt and Qatar, and, and of course, with Israel.

00:39:12.340 But here's the thing, after four months, we are challenging the assumption that the release

00:39:19.420 of the American hostages will be part of the overall release of all hostages.

00:39:25.960 It hasn't happened.

00:39:28.100 Our boy, together with five other living Americans, has been held hostage and is not released by

00:39:35.340 any deal.

00:39:36.480 And we're very, very worried because the conditions there are terrible.

00:39:40.820 The Red Claw is not allowed to get in.

00:39:43.740 We know that they are tortured.

00:39:45.760 We know that they are hardly fed.

00:39:47.800 We know they haven't seen medical condition.

00:39:50.760 What needs to happen, Glenn, for United States to step up and say, we are going to save our

00:39:56.220 own people?

00:39:57.340 I have to tell you, it's not just about your son.

00:40:00.680 By not doing these things, you, you make it dangerous for Americans all around the world.

00:40:06.960 You cannot take American citizens and hold them hostage.

00:40:11.240 We have to respond to this, um, by trying to rescue them.

00:40:16.200 Uh, and, uh, it just, it's just so muddy and murky now with the world.

00:40:22.860 I mean, it, to me, it is so crystal clear, um, you are dealing with barbarians and, uh, you, 0.98

00:40:33.120 you know, you're dealing with barbarians. 0.91

00:40:36.280 They don't care about life.

00:40:38.820 Uh, and we do.

00:40:40.420 And I, you know, I just wish that I had confidence in our, uh, in our nation right now that we

00:40:47.280 could even pull something off and, and find them.

00:40:50.900 When, what is the last, how do you know your, I don't mean to be horrible on this.

00:40:56.840 How do you know your son is still alive?

00:40:58.960 So, first of all, I want to say that it is very complicated, Glenn, because as far as

00:41:06.480 we understand, they're being held in this underground, you know, maze of tunnels, right?

00:41:13.800 And, and a rescue, um, attempt such as you're suggesting could be very, very dangerous.

00:41:20.640 Yes.

00:41:20.920 So, you know, I'm not saying, honestly, I want you to know, I'm not suggesting a plan.

00:41:29.180 I just don't feel like the American people are even really aware, um, or care.

00:41:36.060 The media certainly doesn't seem to feel that way.

00:41:39.040 I mean, it's that we've been lost.

00:41:40.540 I think we're the only broadcast that every day we have a counter on the side of the screen

00:41:46.500 that says American hostages still in Gaza day today is 132.

00:41:52.200 I, I mean, I felt the same way when it happened to our hostages in Iran.

00:41:58.460 This is a very big deal.

00:42:01.000 This is even a more complex situation because we're not dealing with a nation.

00:42:05.700 We're dealing with a bunch of terrorists.

00:42:08.320 And we really appreciate you having the day clock on, on yours.

00:42:12.320 We are wearing a daily badge right now, 132 days.

00:42:16.780 I can't even believe that we have reached such a, you know, milestone of over four months.

00:42:22.920 It's unbelievable.

00:42:25.400 Something has to be done.

00:42:27.380 And we are urging all the partners, and we're putting a lot of pressure.

00:42:31.520 That's why we're in Israel.

00:42:32.660 We're putting a lot of pressure on the Netanyahu administration to negotiate.

00:42:39.480 Part of the issues that we see right now is that the negotiation is not going in the right direction.

00:42:46.020 All the parties were in Cairo this week, and Prime Minister Netanyahu pulled the Israeli representatives

00:42:53.760 and told them to go back.

00:42:55.220 We're very concerned about that.

00:42:56.920 So can I ask you, because this is such a complex thing, you know, Netanyahu is getting a lot

00:43:06.600 of heat from the United Nations and many nations who, again, I don't think really care about

00:43:12.360 or understand, not that I do, what it's like to be a Jew.

00:43:18.320 There's no place safe on Earth except perhaps Israel because you have a right to defend yourself. 0.80

00:43:25.200 Everywhere else, it's like you're just a visitor.

00:43:28.120 You're just, you know, you're not really.

00:43:30.320 Yeah, you're a citizen, but you're a Jew. 1.00

00:43:33.200 And that is horrible. 0.63

00:43:35.680 And every time the world goes into this kind of darkness, that's when countries just start

00:43:41.740 to separate their citizens and their Jews. 1.00

00:43:43.880 And I got to tell you, I would not negotiate with these people if it meant that we had to

00:43:53.360 leave some of them, you know, still in charge with capabilities to do this again, because

00:43:59.860 they will.

00:44:02.100 Right.

00:44:02.680 But it's a catch-22, you realize that, right?

00:44:06.060 Yeah, I do.

00:44:06.820 I do.

00:44:07.120 I want to also, you know, you mentioned that Israel is the only Jewish state, really, and

00:44:15.020 it was established after the Holocaust.

00:44:17.320 And both my father and Ronan's father are Holocaust survivors.

00:44:22.140 And yes, and they came to Israel and were of the founders of Israel exactly for this reason.

00:44:29.380 And again, you know, it's just unfathomable that, you know, my father has to be in this

00:44:36.820 predicament where he knows that his grandchild was abducted by this terrorist organization

00:44:42.780 that just broke into the borders of this country.

00:44:46.060 And like you said, we have to fight over the empathy and the narrative of all of this

00:44:51.960 that's going on right now to defend ourselves in this situation.

00:44:56.280 And that's exactly why our son, Omer, part of the reasons why he decided to move to Israel

00:45:01.480 to get to know the country and to serve the country is because of his heritage, his understanding

00:45:07.280 that somebody has to do it.

00:45:09.220 The Jewish state has to be protected.

00:45:12.200 And unfortunately, he was in that spot next to the Gaza border when he was abducted.

00:45:17.880 But now we need to get him back.

00:45:20.340 That's our job.

00:45:21.700 We are all over the place.

00:45:22.900 I met with the prime minister of Qatar in Doha.

00:45:26.780 I urged him and I thanked him for what he did for the first release.

00:45:31.640 But they have to continue.

00:45:33.820 They have to put all the possible pressure on Hamas to release all the other hostages.

00:45:40.120 And of course, the Americans, six Americans among them.

00:45:43.860 It has to be done.

00:45:45.140 And we don't have time.

00:45:47.600 Everybody has to have time.

00:45:49.200 We don't have time.

00:45:50.440 Those hostages are dying.

00:45:51.880 I know.

00:45:52.680 I know they are.

00:45:54.200 I want to urge you, if you want to learn more about this, you can go to stories.bringthemhomenow.net.

00:46:04.220 I don't know what the solution is, Orna and Ronan, but we will pray for your son and all

00:46:12.980 of the hostages.

00:46:13.900 You're in an impossible situation.

00:46:17.780 And just as a dad, my heart goes out to both of you.

00:46:21.940 God bless you both.

00:46:22.820 Thank you, Ben.

00:46:24.900 See you next time.

00:46:25.220 See you next time.

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