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00:00:30.000 For the first time on the Glenn Beck program, we have a conversation with Steve Bannon.

00:00:34.560 Steve and I have disagreed on quite a few things in the past.

00:00:40.780 We are together on this. America is a really great place, and we need to stop beating each other over the head.

00:00:50.180 We had a great conversation about Iran and Israel and the peace accords that President Trump is working on.

00:00:59.200 You don't want to miss the conversation I had with Steve Bannon.

00:01:01.960 Also, did President Trump announce a ceasefire before Iran and Israel had agreed to it?

00:01:07.940 This is all speculation on Stu's part, but if that were the case, which option is most likely to how it all played out?

00:01:17.680 Stu and I talk about this.

00:01:18.900 Also, some inspiration from a World War II veteran and a reminder that we need to be for something instead of just against things.

00:01:26.860 Today, kind of a philosophical kind of program.

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00:03:26.120 You know, I don't know about anybody else, but I'm kind of glad that Israel's on our side.

00:03:42.560 You know, I would hate to be an enemy of Israel.

00:03:44.840 They really kind of have it down.

00:03:47.060 I don't know if you've noticed.

00:03:48.380 Israeli intelligence operatives apparently placed dozens of anonymous phone calls to top Iranian generals earlier.

00:04:00.300 It was last week, warning them, now is the time to get out.

00:04:04.600 You got to get out right now.

00:04:06.500 Quote, I can advise you now.

00:04:08.400 You have 12 hours to escape with your wife and child.

00:04:11.400 Otherwise, you're on our list. 0.98

00:04:13.520 And we'll hit you. 1.00

00:04:14.700 We'll hit your family. 1.00

00:04:15.400 We'll hit your children. 1.00

00:04:15.920 And everybody will knock you into the dirt. 0.99

00:04:18.920 So they made 20 of these phone calls.

00:04:22.620 And then they said, you know, if you don't get out within 12 hours, you don't have anybody to blame but yourself.

00:04:32.040 We are closer to you than your own neck vein.

00:04:35.940 Put this in your head and may God protect you.

00:04:39.280 Well, wait a minute.

00:04:39.800 What do we do?

00:04:41.560 Well, do you want to be one of them?

00:04:43.680 Do you want to be the next one on the list? 0.97

00:04:45.080 Do you want to destroy your wife and child?

00:04:48.180 No, right? 0.66

00:04:49.500 So what should you do?

00:04:51.240 I love this.

00:04:52.020 What should you do?

00:04:53.080 You should make a video denouncing the Iranian regime and send it via Telegram, an encrypted messaging and social media app within 12 hours. 0.56

00:05:03.360 No word on whether they made that app.

00:05:05.260 Can you imagine?

00:05:06.040 You're not making that app.

00:05:07.260 You're not making that video.

00:05:08.560 You're making that video, Stu?

00:05:11.400 No, probably not. 0.97

00:05:13.900 Because you're dead either way. 0.99

00:05:15.080 You're dead either way. 0.99

00:05:15.860 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:05:16.540 Dead either way.

00:05:16.900 You're just going to run and hide in, I guess.

00:05:19.180 I don't know.

00:05:19.720 I mean, I suppose if you're standing, if you feel you're standing up for your country, you're not going to do those things.

00:05:24.920 But you should be – after seeing what Israel has been able to achieve militarily over the past year, year and a half, you'd have to believe it. 0.95

00:05:34.400 It wouldn't just feel like an empty threat.

00:05:36.840 Last year and a half?

00:05:37.940 How about the last week and a half?

00:05:40.560 I mean, they took out all – they knew right where these guys were and convinced them to all gather together.

00:05:47.660 Some of them, you know, you guys should get together and have a little party.

00:05:50.380 You guys should get – you know, what?

00:05:52.140 And they did it.

00:05:53.820 They pulled it off.

00:05:55.060 I mean, it is amazing what they have done.

00:05:58.120 Yeah, and it's so hard to kind of decipher what is going on from minute to minute, honestly, at this point.

00:06:05.060 I spent hours and hours watching this as the news was breaking of the ceasefire.

00:06:11.100 And then all of the immediate reporting, you know, officials seemingly in both countries saying, actually, no, we don't have an agreement yet.

00:06:21.280 And then bombs continuing to drop.

00:06:23.900 And then Donald Trump getting angry at both of them.

00:06:26.660 And it's just so hard to know what is actually going on.

00:06:29.880 Do you have a theory as to what the –

00:06:32.220 Yeah, maybe I've misread the ceasefire, but what I read is there's a 12-hour period that Iran has, and then Israel has a 12-hour period.

00:06:45.180 But at the end of the 24 hours, that's it.

00:06:48.340 And so it was kind of like, you know, do your worst, Iran. 0.99

00:06:51.300 You got 12 hours, and then –

00:06:53.660 This is the plot of The Purge, I believe.

00:06:57.160 I know, I know.

00:06:58.380 But wasn't that your understanding of it?

00:07:00.680 Yeah, it was weird.

00:07:01.260 It was the two 12-hour periods, and then at the 24-hour period, which ended at 7 a.m. Israel time, you know, those bombs they dropped were at 3 o'clock in the morning.

00:07:14.400 Yeah, it's weird because usually there is a time period to stop it.

00:07:21.540 And I guess the theory being, hey, you need to be able to get word to all of your – you know, all the people at the missile stands who are, like, ready to fire in 30 seconds.

00:07:32.360 So you try to give a little bit of a window so that you can say those – whatever weapons get fired in that period are not violations of the ceasefire.

00:07:41.680 Right.

00:07:42.000 I've never seen one before that I can remember where one party in the ceasefire had a longer period or a different period to fire than the other country did.

00:07:55.600 Like, hey, you guys get 14 hours and you guys get 11.

00:08:00.180 Like, I've never seen that before or I've never seen a period where you guys aren't allowed to fire for their 12 hours and then you get to fire for your 12 hours and they can't respond or whatever that was.

00:08:09.760 It was very complicated and strange.

00:08:12.500 And I saw this –

00:08:13.560 It was the purge.

00:08:14.880 It was the purge.

00:08:15.800 Yeah, it's weird.

00:08:16.960 I think, like, we should target, let's say, for future agreements where we have ceasefires of no period where you just get to keep firing.

00:08:28.000 I feel like – you know, I can understand back in, like, the 1700s where you needed to get to your generals on the field and let them know, hey, don't go to war anymore.

00:08:36.300 I feel like truth social, most people know what he posts there.

00:08:40.860 My guess is most of the people who are important enough to get the information they're not supposed to fire missiles get it pretty quickly these days.

00:08:49.440 Let's just stop.

00:08:50.340 Like, I feel like let's just give it a whirl.

00:08:51.960 Maybe we have a generalized understanding that if something flies up the next 40 minutes, you know, let's try to ignore that one.

00:08:59.760 It seems to be a very strange way of doing things.

00:09:02.820 And it allows for a lot of –

00:09:04.560 So Donald Trump doesn't – he clearly didn't read it this way because he was – he's very upset.

00:09:10.000 He's very upset at Iran and Israel for both violating it.

00:09:14.880 But I don't know.

00:09:16.120 I mean, is the ceasefire actually off?

00:09:20.560 Because I don't think it is.

00:09:21.540 I don't know.

00:09:21.920 They've not violated it.

00:09:24.200 He's very angry.

00:09:24.760 7 a.m. is when it was supposed to happen.

00:09:27.320 That was what?

00:09:29.080 I don't know.

00:09:31.180 I'll stop my head.

00:09:32.140 1 a.m., I think, our time.

00:09:36.320 So he was obviously very angry about weapons being fired outside of the windows that he approved, or at least was of the understanding.

00:09:45.340 And that's what I – what was another thing I struggled with yesterday of what actually happened, right?

00:09:49.260 Like, because I think there's an argument to be made, and a believable one, right, that there was an agreement fully agreed to by both parties and, you know, Donald Trump and, I guess, Qatar overseeing it.

00:10:01.960 And then Iran flaked on the deal and fired anyway.

00:10:06.280 Like, totally believable to me.

00:10:08.600 Absolutely could have been the case.

00:10:10.780 That's what they – I mean, you know, the ceasefire without an unconditional surrender, you know, that is a – that's an interesting thing.

00:10:19.520 Because, I mean, that's what Hamas does. 0.55

00:10:21.640 That's what Hezbollah. 0.97

00:10:22.660 That's what Iran does all the time. 1.00

00:10:24.140 Yeah, we're not going to – we're not going to do that.

00:10:26.520 Definitely.

00:10:27.060 We're not going to do that.

00:10:27.940 And then they do it.

00:10:28.920 Right.

00:10:29.480 So –

00:10:29.800 Wait a minute.

00:10:30.160 You just said – no, but that was special.

00:10:32.820 That was part of Ramadan, maybe.

00:10:37.220 You know, you're like, wait.

00:10:37.980 It's part of Pride Month, as you mentioned earlier.

00:10:40.400 That's right.

00:10:41.080 So, like, option A, totally believable.

00:10:44.780 They come – everyone comes up with an agreement and Iran flakes. 1.00

00:10:48.180 Okay.

00:10:48.680 Option B, everyone comes up with an agreement and Israel flakes. 0.77

00:10:53.340 Less believable to me, but especially –

00:10:56.840 But possible.

00:10:57.680 But possible.

00:10:58.540 Possible.

00:10:58.900 It's less believable, largely considering how important the relationship is between Israel and Donald Trump from Israel.

00:11:07.980 Like, they have gone out of their way over and over and over again to make sure that they're not infuriating Donald Trump on multitude of issues, even, like, things like tariffs.

00:11:20.740 Like, they're just like, okay, we're lowering ours to zero, and it's fine that you're keeping yours higher.

00:11:25.220 Like, that was their point on tariffs before even Liberation Day happened.

00:11:31.240 This is an existential threat to Israel. 0.97

00:11:33.940 Right.

00:11:34.060 So, we don't understand it the way they do.

00:11:35.800 And I think the – you know, Iran broke the treaty first. 0.87

00:11:42.340 They launched missiles.

00:11:44.660 And then Israel responded.

00:11:46.980 And I think, honestly, that I could see Donald Trump saying, you're coming to the table.

00:11:51.900 You're coming to the table.

00:11:52.860 And they're like, we are so close. 0.99

00:11:55.360 We are this close to completely decapitating them. 0.91

00:11:58.640 You know, we're not going to stop right now. 0.98

00:12:00.740 You're going to stop right now.

00:12:02.980 And they made, okay, fine, knowing that Iran is going to violate. 0.94

00:12:07.880 And then they'll just go and finish the job.

00:12:10.160 I think, personally, that's most likely what happened.

00:12:13.560 Because Donald Trump, I don't think, even though he said it last week, I don't think he wants regime change because it's risky.

00:12:20.200 It's really, really risky.

00:12:23.180 And so, he sees this way to go to kind of a stalemate.

00:12:28.000 And he's happier with that now that he's pushed the nuclear weapon possibility back a few years.

00:12:35.360 Okay.

00:12:36.460 So, I think that's possible.

00:12:37.740 By the way, on regime change, I feel like it's something I'm rooting for but don't want to do.

00:12:42.920 Yes, me too.

00:12:43.740 I say the same thing about, you know, me getting into shape.

00:12:47.260 Like, I'm rooting for it, but I'm not going to do it.

00:12:49.960 It's that type of thing where I don't necessarily want to be involved in the process of getting into shape.

00:12:54.440 But I root for it to happen.

00:12:56.000 Maybe if some miracle occurs.

00:12:57.840 If somebody will do it for me, I'm all in.

00:13:00.220 I'm all in on that.

00:13:01.240 So, that's option two.

00:13:02.440 I have to admit that I had an option three in my head as well, which was…

00:13:08.460 I think I know what it is.

00:13:10.420 You told me.

00:13:11.200 I bet you it's the same as mine.

00:13:12.400 I bet you it's the same.

00:13:14.060 So, my option three was Israel and Iran, they had some talks.

00:13:20.040 They were pretty close, maybe.

00:13:22.620 Kind of near an agreement.

00:13:24.600 Maybe some things have been floated.

00:13:26.420 It looked good.

00:13:28.120 Trump was a little worried that it might fall through.

00:13:30.800 So, he just went public with it and said it was done.

00:13:33.760 And was just like, I'm going on Truth Social right now.

00:13:36.060 It is done.

00:13:36.760 Both have agreed, period.

00:13:38.260 Knowing that it would put both of them in a very difficult position.

00:13:41.680 Because if they kept firing, they'd look like they were the ones violating an agreement that had been announced.

00:13:47.160 And I have to say that part of me thought maybe there wasn't a real agreement.

00:13:51.960 And he was just wishing it into existence.

00:13:54.660 And at the same time, putting all sorts of leverage on both parties.

00:13:58.780 So, I think, you know, it did cross my mind because that's exactly what I thought, too.

00:14:03.120 Crossed my mind because of Norman Vincent Peale.

00:14:05.180 Yes.

00:14:05.440 He went to Norman Vincent Peale's church as a kid.

00:14:09.860 I mean, he grew up listening to the power of positive thinking.

00:14:12.440 That's why he's always speaking things.

00:14:15.320 This is going to be the greatest thing ever.

00:14:18.200 Nobody's ever seen anything.

00:14:19.400 He speaks everything into existence.

00:14:22.520 And he actually believes it.

00:14:25.200 He believes in the power.

00:14:26.540 So do I.

00:14:27.440 But he believes in the power of positive thinking.

00:14:30.000 He believes in the power of just speaking things into existence.

00:14:33.340 And so there is a possibility.

00:14:35.860 They were very, very close.

00:14:37.300 And he's like, we got a deal.

00:14:39.640 We got a deal.

00:14:40.760 They're like, wait, wait, what?

00:14:42.240 Because that's the way everybody reacted to it when he did it.

00:14:45.580 Everyone was like, oh, my gosh.

00:14:46.740 And they were celebrating it.

00:14:47.980 And then you started seeing reports out of like from like the mouth of Iranian officials being like, we haven't even been sent an agreement yet.

00:14:57.660 Right.

00:14:58.060 Like they were saying that on the record.

00:15:00.760 And it's like, I don't know.

00:15:02.200 So Iran could just be lying about it completely.

00:15:04.720 Like they could be saying they could have already signed it or that guy didn't know.

00:15:08.280 There's other possibilities there.

00:15:11.540 But I think a large one is just that Trump was like, we're doing this.

00:15:16.100 Right.

00:15:16.400 I have.

00:15:16.900 Let me give you probably a closer guess than what we're, you know, where we've been.

00:15:24.960 Like, I got them on the phone.

00:15:27.740 I at least talked to each of them.

00:15:30.180 We didn't come.

00:15:31.180 We're doing a peace deal.

00:15:32.980 Okay.

00:15:33.320 That that's kind of where we are.

00:15:34.820 I think what probably could have happened is we did all of the work.

00:15:39.360 We had all of the phone calls, but nobody had signed.

00:15:43.880 And Trump is like, I'm going to lock them into this before they have a chance to change their mind.

00:15:49.100 I'm just announcing it.

00:15:50.380 I think that's a possibility.

00:15:51.980 Highly possible.

00:15:52.820 I think.

00:15:53.680 Yeah.

00:15:53.840 And, you know, I go back and forth on this because, you know, Donald Trump's real job, okay, is to come up with the best outcome in God only knows how many situations he's dealing with at any given time.

00:16:07.360 Right.

00:16:07.600 And so the best outcome for America, America first, would be this war to end. 0.74

00:16:12.320 Right.

00:16:13.300 And, you know, no flaring up of violence.

00:16:15.700 And that's what he's pursuing.

00:16:17.060 And he wants that to happen.

00:16:18.320 And so he is oftentimes negotiating publicly to the ends that he wants to achieve.

00:16:24.540 And, of course, his job is actually to achieve those ends.

00:16:28.420 That being said, it does put us as American citizens in a situation where it is wise to take what he says publicly as not necessarily completely factual and literal.

00:16:45.420 And it's weird to be in a situation where you have to recognize, hey, he might be, instead of trying to tell me the truth as the citizen, what he's trying to do is influence the situation and negotiating to what might be a great end.

00:16:59.920 But it puts us in a weird position where we're chasing around trying to figure out what's actually occurring.

00:17:06.320 And we can't necessarily, and I mean this, I'm trying to, like, set this up in a way because I don't want it to sound like the insult that it might sound like.

00:17:14.580 But, like, we are in a position as American citizens where we really just can't trust what he says as the truth.

00:17:21.420 And I think that is for...

00:17:23.540 Let me rephrase that.

00:17:24.340 Let me rephrase that.

00:17:25.020 I think that is, just to finish, leading towards good ends.

00:17:28.960 I don't think it means, it's like, not because he's lying to us because he wants to lie to us.

00:17:32.360 It's because he's trying to influence these situations in a positive direction.

00:17:36.160 But it's weird to be in that situation where he says it is a, there is a ceasefire sign.

00:17:42.080 And we can't just say there is a ceasefire sign.

00:17:44.540 Because we don't know that that's true yet.

00:17:46.520 We have to kind of go through other layers of, wait, what is actually happening here before we can land in that position.

00:17:52.020 So, I would say it this way.

00:17:54.140 Like, we cannot trust that what is happening in front of us is finished.

00:18:05.760 What we have to ask ourselves, are we still in the final stages of negotiation?

00:18:12.300 Mm-hmm.

00:18:12.840 Mm-hmm.

00:18:13.520 Because everything about Donald Trump is a negotiation.

00:18:16.920 Everything is.

00:18:17.480 Yeah.

00:18:18.060 Everything. 0.95

00:18:18.380 And he is, you know, it's like, I'm going to, you know, little boy, fat man and little boy over there in North Korea. 0.99

00:18:25.860 I'm going to bomb the snot out of him. 0.97

00:18:27.480 And then next, he's his best friend. 0.82

00:18:29.500 That was all negotiation.

00:18:31.200 Right.

00:18:31.380 He shouldn't have taken a word he said seriously.

00:18:33.700 That was negotiation to get North Korea to behave.

00:18:38.780 And look what happened in the end.

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00:20:01.260 Now back to the podcast.

00:20:02.360 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:07.640 Host of Bannon's War Room, former White House Chief Strategist, Steve Bannon.

00:20:13.520 Welcome to the program, Steve.

00:20:14.560 How are you?

00:20:15.580 Hey, Glenn.

00:20:16.140 Thanks for having me.

00:20:17.780 You bet.

00:20:18.300 Well, what is this?

00:20:19.320 This is like, Stu and I were just saying, this is like Fast and Furious.

00:20:22.740 I can't keep up with all of the action that's going on.

00:20:26.740 The looks like the ceasefire has fallen apart.

00:20:30.480 But Donald Trump is not happy about it.

00:20:33.800 In case you missed what he said, headed to the helicopter this morning.

00:20:37.640 Can we play that, Sarah?

00:20:38.860 Do we have it?

00:20:40.480 The edited version, please.

00:20:45.260 They violated it, but Israel violated it, too. 0.75

00:20:48.060 Are you questioning if Israel was committed?

00:20:49.760 Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the 0.98

00:20:54.020 likes of which I've never seen before.

00:20:55.920 The biggest load that we've seen.

00:20:57.920 I'm not happy with Israel. 0.99

00:20:59.700 You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour and

00:21:04.580 just drop everything you have on them.

00:21:06.280 So I'm not happy with them.

00:21:07.880 I'm not happy with Iran either. 0.99

00:21:09.420 But I'm really unhappy if Israel is going out this morning because the one rocket that

00:21:14.460 didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land, I'm not happy about that.

00:21:21.880 You know what?

00:21:22.420 We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't 0.87

00:21:28.540 know what the f*** they're doing. 0.63

00:21:30.100 Do you understand that? 0.97

00:21:33.900 Yes, Mr. President.

00:21:35.400 I think we understand where you're coming from.

00:21:37.620 What are your thoughts, Steve?

00:21:40.100 Well, Glenn, you know the president as well as anybody.

00:21:43.400 And you can tell he's put a lot of his spirit into this, a lot of his focus.

00:21:49.280 And he has worked up.

00:21:51.120 I mean, I have never seen, quite frankly, this man on any topic.

00:21:54.800 He's really worked up.

00:21:56.460 And I think he, you know, really went over time, went with, you know, worked for the Qataris,

00:22:02.300 I think also UAE, you know, MBZ, and got to work at the ceasefire.

00:22:06.880 He wants everybody to put down their guns.

00:22:09.280 And, of course, they're both slugging it out.

00:22:11.140 And I think that what, you know, Mark Caputo over at Axios was reporting even more than that

00:22:17.240 display going to Marine One to head to NATO.

00:22:20.440 I think he had a phone call with Netanyahu and really got on him about this.

00:22:26.600 So, you know, this thing is very tenuous.

00:22:28.400 But the president has gone the extra yard to make sure everybody, you know, puts down their guns

00:22:33.340 and have both sides try to figure this out.

00:22:36.800 You know, I saw a tweet from him this morning that said, Israel, do not, you know, follow through on these bombs.

00:22:45.940 And he's, I've never seen him do this before.

00:22:50.160 Do not do it.

00:22:52.160 Donald J. Trump, president of the United States. 0.83

00:22:55.960 I, you know, for anybody who ever says that, you know, oh, Donald Trump's being led by those Jews 0.96

00:23:01.660 and Israel's telling him, no, no, Donald Trump is clearly the one in charge here.

00:23:08.560 Would you agree with that?

00:23:10.940 Well, I think, let's discuss that.

00:23:13.000 But I think on this right here, people should take that as a papal bull.

00:23:16.740 You know, he, I've never seen him actually ever do that, even in the Ukraine situation,

00:23:21.560 things we got with the CCP, the Russians, even some of the toughest situations with Soleimani

00:23:27.640 and others before in the first term.

00:23:29.280 This is, some of those true social posts were pretty blunt.

00:23:34.220 And like I say, when President Trump is worked up like this,

00:23:38.320 particularly when he has put so much time and he's working for peace,

00:23:42.020 he must have already put the guns down, people should take this as a papal bull.

00:23:47.180 I mean, it's that serious.

00:23:49.800 I want to come back to what we were, you know, you said, you know, let's discuss that.

00:23:54.400 And I do want to discuss that.

00:23:55.900 But before we do, let me just follow up here.

00:23:58.300 Sure. You keep saying that, you know, he spent so much time on.

00:24:01.440 I think he has, I think he has risked more in this last week with his own base than I've seen him put.

00:24:12.860 I mean, he put all of the chips on the table.

00:24:15.140 I mean, this could have been an absolute disaster.

00:24:17.620 Who knows? Maybe it is in the end.

00:24:20.240 Maybe it's not.

00:24:21.080 Maybe it's, you know, a Nobel Prize that he should, another one that he should win.

00:24:26.080 But he, the base is so divided on this.

00:24:31.880 And I think that's part of the frustration, too, is he put all of the chips on the table.

00:24:37.840 Can we just get people to do what they say they're going to do?

00:24:42.860 Would you agree with that?

00:24:44.660 I would agree.

00:24:45.680 And I think it's even beyond the politics of the base.

00:24:48.040 I mean, Glenn, you know better than anybody how torn, particularly the non-interventors, are on this topic. 1.00

00:24:53.240 But it's actually, you know, as commander-in-chief and the resources and the assets and the men and women in harm's way, and particularly, as I've argued, we're already at the beginning of the kinetic part of the Third World War.

00:25:08.920 Hell, we've got two million.

00:25:10.020 If you look at 1939 to 1941 when the Wehrmacht went to Russia, from Poland to Russia, there's, you know, we've got two million people dead or wounded in Ukraine, a million on each side.

00:25:21.720 I mean, look at the Houthis in the Red Sea.

00:25:24.520 I mean, this is much – we're already in the kinetic part of the Third World War.

00:25:28.840 And now this arc of instability, you've got Kashmir in Pakistan.

00:25:33.260 I mean, President Trump is going out of his way to try to be a peacemaker here and to bring this thing to a conclusion so people can start to negotiate.

00:25:40.860 You saw the beginnings of that or what he did in the Middle East trip.

00:25:44.240 So, yes, it's definitely politics and internal politics and the MAGA movement, if you're as familiar with that as anybody.

00:25:49.840 But I think it's far deeper than that.

00:25:52.720 And he put it all on the table.

00:25:54.320 And we've got to – I think we have to question why the hell we're even here right now.

00:25:58.820 You know, why on the – or the 24th of June in the year of over 2025, we're in this situation with, you know, 10 million illegal alien invaders on Biden's watch that we've got to deport from the country.

00:26:10.340 These neo-Confederates running California, these sanctuary cities, the big, beautiful bill, which has got so many huge issues we have to address. 0.99

00:26:20.660 We haven't spent a second talking about this in weeks.

00:26:23.240 So many things are going on.

00:26:24.540 And this is just – it's sucked up all this time as an active shooting war at will.

00:26:29.040 So, you know, because I've been listening to you, and I think we agree on a lot of stuff here.

00:26:37.740 Neither one of us wanted him to drop the bombs.

00:26:43.560 You're stronger on that than I am.

00:26:45.660 But, you know, now that it's been dropped, now we just have to deal with whatever we're going to deal with.

00:26:50.900 But I think we both stand in the same place on – my support, when I read in the scriptures, you know, those who will bless Israel, I will bless those who curse Israel. 0.94

00:27:02.920 That doesn't mean I go down every path that Israel wants.

00:27:07.040 I don't have to agree with them.

00:27:08.540 I don't have to do anything.

00:27:11.160 The way I believe I'm to bless them is to say they have a right to exist.

00:27:16.160 Let's not do another holocaust and allow them to use their own power for self-defense.

00:27:23.860 They've demonstrated they can do that.

00:27:26.500 We don't have to get involved in everything that they're doing.

00:27:30.180 Would you agree that that is a reasonable stance or where's the nuance?

00:27:35.160 I'd even take it a little further.

00:27:36.980 I mean, I'm not just personally, but the war were adamant supporters of Israel and the state of Israel.

00:27:42.340 And particularly given – I mean, if you think from October 7th, you know, if you look at Israel in Gaza, which is messy. 0.85

00:27:51.440 We've been a big supporter of what they're doing in Samas and the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:27:55.180 Our only message has been, you know, when you've got to go through hell, go through it as quickly as possible.

00:28:00.720 Let's get it done.

00:28:02.040 In the day of Samaria, what they've done with Hezbollah is monumental. 1.00

00:28:06.000 Well, because Hezbollah, as you know, Glenn, was considered, I guess, one of the best light infantry in the world, what they've done in southern Syria.

00:28:12.460 The Israelis have done militarily, I think, and geopolitically extraordinary work since the surprise attack.

00:28:20.700 But there's just so many questions about this and so many questions about why we're so tangled up in this thing right now.

00:28:27.340 And I think they just have to be answered.

00:28:29.980 I think they've got to be answered for – because to continue to support Israel. 0.91

00:28:34.980 And, look, the support to date really – we don't have a formal alliance.

00:28:38.900 We have a special relationship.

00:28:40.280 They're essentially a protectorate of the United States.

00:28:43.940 And if that's the case, and we should not be in the protectorate business, we shouldn't – Europe.

00:28:48.660 Right.

00:28:48.980 He's going to NATO right now because they finally guaranteed to pay 5%.

00:28:52.200 I mean, think of this huge – if you remember, Glenn, they laughed at us for paying 2%, which they agreed to in President Trump's first term.

00:28:59.700 And one of the points was we can't have Western Europe and the elites in Western Europe as a protector of the United States.

00:29:04.780 We just can't afford it anymore.

00:29:06.360 He's making huge moves there.

00:29:07.800 And that's why I think in this situation we really have to go through and see exactly how this came about.

00:29:14.340 And I think it will illuminate how we go forward to sort this mess out.

00:29:20.060 So do you think we would have dropped the bomb if Israel could have dropped that bomb? 0.95

00:29:26.860 I mean, that bomb was made for that particular run.

00:29:30.840 And we have been rehearsing that run for 15-plus years specifically.

00:29:37.500 And nobody else has a weapon that was built for that particular drop.

00:29:44.780 If Israel could have had it, do you think Donald Trump would have gotten involved?

00:29:49.100 Because I don't think he would have.

00:29:50.980 Let me take it in a slightly different direction.

00:29:53.740 In 79, my destroyer – I was in the Pacific Fleet, and we were going for our second Westpac to turn over to the 7th Fleet.

00:30:02.580 And we got the call on November 4th.

00:30:04.940 We were in Desjardins 23, the Little Beavers, the famous Arleigh Burke destroyer squadron.

00:30:08.880 And we got the call that the hostages had been taken, and it took us a couple months to get there.

00:30:13.760 But we were one of the first – we went with one of the first battle groups ever to get to the North Arabian Sea.

00:30:18.600 And we were there.

00:30:20.180 I think we rotated out a month before the assault, but we practiced the assault every day.

00:30:25.020 And, Glenn, you could tell at the time this is like you're not in Kansas anymore.

00:30:28.640 I mean, it is – the scale of the place is so big.

00:30:32.720 It's so forbidding.

00:30:33.880 You know, the ocean, and you never see the sun.

00:30:36.560 And it's so complicated.

00:30:39.040 As you know, that one was a complete abject failure.

00:30:42.500 And I think every junior officer and non-commissioned officer on any of those ships in the battle group could have told you 90 days before the launch that it was going to be a disaster, just given the logistics of it.

00:30:53.340 And this – the tell to me, and this was the Tomahawk missiles that went to the third site and destroyed it above ground.

00:31:02.460 I mean, essentially, Israel had done nothing to take out any of the nuclear facilities.

00:31:08.000 And let's go back to where I think we have to get to the heart of it, is why did this come out of nowhere?

00:31:14.660 The intelligence – and we're told that the intelligence is different.

00:31:18.080 And this has been said now by Marco Rubio and other people, that the intelligence is different than the intelligence that the IRC community had.

00:31:26.220 And today they're going to have, you know, classified hearings with Tulsi Gabbard and Ratcliffe.

00:31:31.900 And my understanding is Ratcliffe and the CIA presented additional intelligence that said this was absolutely emergency.

00:31:38.920 It had to happen.

00:31:39.660 And that's where the strike had to happen last Thursday, although it shouldn't be lost to anybody, that the strike itself didn't look like it was so much to take out the nuclear facilities.

00:31:49.220 It was essentially a decapitation strike to the senior military, maybe not to the religious that run the state.

00:31:57.320 And I thought that was just very suspicious, including the fact that President Trump had a negotiating meeting set for Sunday.

00:32:03.240 Now, it wasn't going well.

00:32:04.440 He felt like he was getting tapped along.

00:32:06.040 But the first thing we heard is that Ratcliffe – I mean, Whitcoff couldn't have a meeting because all the negotiators had been killed.

00:32:14.340 Now, it turned out later one of the senior guys was not.

00:32:17.540 But I think we've got to find out that, like, what was the emergency?

00:32:21.880 Why did this actually have to happen?

00:32:23.660 What was the intel that said that they were going to get a bomb shortly?

00:32:27.260 Because BD went on Bret Baier on Sunday night and said he was – again, said they're 12 to 13 months away, which is what he's traditionally said.

00:32:34.660 If that was the case, that's a very different – we had not gone up to escalatory scale and coercive diplomacy.

00:32:42.500 We certainly hadn't gone to economic warfare, particularly, Glenn, as you know, cutting off – not allowing to ship oil to the Chinese Communist Party, which I think is 60 percent of their cash flow.

00:32:53.180 There's so many things up the escalatory ladder.

00:32:55.040 And if you want regime change, I always think the best way to do it is through economic warfare, where President Trump, you know, got so tough with him when he dropped out of the JCPOA.

00:33:05.100 And that's why in 22, you had the first time – I think they had a major revolt in the streets.

00:33:09.820 Now, it only lasted for a couple of weeks, but that was the big part of it.

00:33:13.260 That was because of the sanctions President Trump put in.

00:33:15.360 Then we get into the situation after the bombing run, and what's concerning about the bombing run is why are Los Angeles-class submarines hitting them with 30 tomahawks on a facility that's above ground?

00:33:27.800 And I would like to see the bomb damage report.

00:33:29.960 Now, President Trump, I believe, we obliterated it, but I haven't seen any ballistic missile capability that could get to the United States tomorrow or San Francisco tomorrow.

00:33:38.020 I think this whole thing was from the beginning, and I think if you look at Fox News, which I really fault here, this was clearly about regime change.

00:33:47.120 I think the Netanyahu government saw an opportunity to do regime change, and until I see otherwise and see information otherwise, there was an absolute emergency and had to happen.

00:33:56.360 That's the reason I was really against any type of military engagement.

00:34:00.020 Now, it turns out magnificent logistics, and people don't realize how complicated that was and how incredible.

00:34:07.200 But President Trump, I think it's one and done, and now he's got to cease fire, and he's very specific.

00:34:13.640 I think he came out today.

00:34:14.780 I think Bloomberg put out that he said there's no regime change.

00:34:18.020 But my point is the opportunity cost is this.

00:34:20.280 This is going to suck us into, if not open combat, this is going to suck us in just the mindshare of President Trump to have to engage here.

00:34:29.980 We have so many other pressing, massive problems.

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00:34:42.680 So I saw something the other day, and I just want to take two and a half minutes and just play something.

00:34:48.080 This is an older guy, World War II veteran.

00:34:52.560 This was from a couple of weeks ago on V-Day, V-E-Day, and he was talking about how it felt, V-E-Day felt now 80 years later.

00:35:12.420 Listen to this.

00:35:13.120 Hello.

00:35:14.340 Hello.

00:35:15.240 Today is May 8th, the anniversary of the victory in Europe.

00:35:22.020 When I found out the war was over, I was already out of the service.

00:35:27.200 I got out on April 13th, the day after President Roosevelt died.

00:35:33.280 I was 22 when I went home after seven years of service.

00:35:39.080 Of course, I joined with my cousin, Chick, when we were 15 in 1938.

00:35:45.320 Time just goes by.

00:35:47.680 And the next thing I knew, the world was celebrating victory in Europe.

00:35:53.320 Here I am at home with my mother and my dad, and they announced the war was over in Europe.

00:36:03.240 Hitler was dead.

00:36:05.340 His troops have given up, turning all their arms.

00:36:09.280 All their ships were being confiscated.

00:36:12.940 What an elation.

00:36:15.040 No way I'm going back.

00:36:17.120 I'm discharged already.

00:36:19.460 But the release anyway.

00:36:21.200 After all those years, I was in the service.

00:36:25.020 And especially three years overseas.

00:36:28.440 And it's over now.

00:36:30.600 It's crazy.

00:36:32.360 It's hard to think you're free.

00:36:35.180 It's a different life.

00:36:37.420 Yes.

00:36:39.360 There were a few beers drunk that day.

00:36:43.040 And a lot of other liquor, of course.

00:36:45.840 But some settled with handshakes.

00:36:49.160 And glad it's over.

00:36:50.440 That's what I did.

00:36:52.620 I stood by my mother and gave her a hug.

00:36:55.820 Says, I'm not going back.

00:36:58.160 I gotta remind you guys.

00:37:00.320 I'm here because a whole bunch of my friends gave their life so that I could make it here.

00:37:08.180 It's hard to realize that.

00:37:10.140 I came true to the end of the war without a scratch.

00:37:15.400 How can you land on Omaha Beach on D-Day and get through that minefield without a scratch?

00:37:23.660 If you could take the time today or tomorrow or every day for just an instant, have a little visit with those guys that gave their life.

00:37:35.780 So we're winners.

00:37:36.840 That's the reason we're free today is because these guys gave their life.

00:37:42.200 I think he is fantastic.

00:37:46.580 He has an Instagram page called Storytime with Papa Jake.

00:37:49.320 And I saw that the other day and it just makes me all soupy.

00:37:58.080 The innocence and the sweetness of a guy who's lived his life.

00:38:04.580 I'm sure he's lived a hard life.

00:38:06.560 I mean, landing on Omaha Beach.

00:38:08.280 There's something about people who lived back then that is just different.

00:38:24.500 And I wonder if we can ever get back there.

00:38:27.080 Or if we want to.

00:38:28.220 I don't know.

00:38:28.740 I do.

00:38:29.840 I don't want the troubles that they had back then.

00:38:32.520 I don't want the bigotry and everything else that they had back then.

00:38:36.320 But I, do you think we'll ever get back to a place to where a few beers were drunk that day, I'll tell you.

00:38:48.680 Some handshakes.

00:38:51.060 Congratulations.

00:38:51.980 It's over.

00:38:53.240 I mean, who speaks like that anymore?

00:39:01.120 I talked to Steve Bannon earlier today.

00:39:03.480 Both of us are very concerned.

00:39:06.520 We don't agree on everything.

00:39:09.800 And we've been at odds at times in our careers.

00:39:17.180 But we both love our country.

00:39:22.160 And we're both concerned about people hammering each other.

00:39:26.980 There's something happening with the right right now.

00:39:31.660 And look, we can disagree.

00:39:34.540 It's healthy.

00:39:35.580 I think actually what we've gone through is really, really healthy in some ways.

00:39:40.480 Having the conversations about the control of deep state, the control of foreign countries.

00:39:46.980 I mean, you know, if we could just sit and say to people, you know, Israel's, you know, Israel's just controlling us. 0.95

00:39:57.360 No, no, no, they're not.

00:39:58.480 Well, they're lying to us.

00:39:59.420 Well, of course they are.

00:40:00.500 Of course they are.

00:40:01.880 You don't think we've ever lied to other countries?

00:40:04.600 You know, it's that country's job, that president or prime minister's job, to do what's right for his country.

00:40:12.100 Just like, you know, we're discovering now or rediscovering, that's exactly the job of the president, to do what's right for our country.

00:40:22.140 And, you know, when our interests align 100%, there's no reason to shade things.

00:40:31.100 But if you are somebody who needs the other side, yeah, you're going to say, you know, this is really good for you too.

00:40:39.840 And if they buy it, they buy it.

00:40:42.100 You got to do what's right for your country.

00:40:45.980 And it's, you know, you shouldn't be mad if our presidents are ever duped by another country.

00:40:50.960 Why are you mad at the other country for trying to dupe us? 0.98

00:40:54.260 We should be mad at our own politicians who have been duped.

00:41:00.220 So one thing I like about President Trump is I don't think he's duping or being duped.

00:41:05.500 You know, I think he is, well, America first. 0.77

00:41:11.340 Make America great again.

00:41:13.380 That should be the slogan for every country.

00:41:15.260 Not build back better.

00:41:17.180 Why the hell is that even? 1.00

00:41:20.360 God, that's the dumbest, dumbest phrase I've ever heard. 0.99

00:41:23.500 Wouldn't you love it if England was going to make England great again? 1.00

00:41:32.620 I was going to say, wouldn't you love it if Germany, no, no. 1.00

00:41:35.840 I didn't have to think about it.

00:41:36.860 You couldn't even get it out of my head.

00:41:38.160 I was thinking it.

00:41:39.100 Wouldn't it be great the next one?

00:41:40.180 Wouldn't it be great if Germany was, no, it really, no. 0.97

00:41:42.920 Because I'm not sure, I'm not sure they define it the same way.

00:41:50.920 Wouldn't it be great if Sweden and Holland, they were great again?

00:42:00.260 France, Italy.

00:42:01.660 I mean, Italy is still pretty great, but.

00:42:07.180 Wouldn't it be great if we took pride in things again?

00:42:09.500 Not some garish pride, not some hateful pride, but just, yeah, I'm proud of my country.

00:42:18.940 I'm proud of us.

00:42:20.400 I'm proud of what we do.

00:42:23.600 I'm going to share something with you tomorrow.

00:42:26.440 A little bit more information on, you know, things I've been telling you as I'm working on.

00:42:30.880 And you'll understand in time why I'm, you know, dribs and drabs of things.

00:42:38.660 But I'm going to share some more information with you tomorrow.

00:42:42.940 And I did a lot of thinking about this audience.

00:42:46.240 I've done a lot of thinking about you.

00:42:52.300 And how grateful I am for you.

00:42:56.700 But tomorrow I'm going to share some things, some stats about you.

00:43:00.840 That you don't know.

00:43:03.860 I didn't know.

00:43:04.560 Some things that are just remarkable.

00:43:10.800 And it's not a boastful pride to say, I'm proud of the people that listen to me.

00:43:18.260 I'm proud of being part of this group.

00:43:24.940 You're amazing.

00:43:26.020 What's wrong with saying that about your country?

00:43:34.760 Listen to this.

00:43:35.700 Play cut nine.

00:43:36.360 This is the UK MP who's talking.

00:43:43.540 This is during a Reform UK rally last February in Essex.

00:43:48.760 His name is Rupert Lowe.

00:43:51.040 Listen to what he says.

00:43:52.020 Watching Trump and the Americans, it has made me even more determined than ever to restore our unique country through a great repeal act when Labour falls at the next election.

00:44:04.720 I don't particularly care if we're liked by the rest of the world.

00:44:08.140 I care if we're respected.

00:44:10.020 Because right now, Britain is a joke.

00:44:12.900 And it has been for some time.

00:44:14.420 I want the British government to put the British people at the top of the agenda.

00:44:19.960 We should make no apologies for that.

00:44:23.180 Learn from Trump.

00:44:24.740 Let's be unapologetically patriotic.

00:44:27.900 Slash tax across the board.

00:44:30.180 Enforce the border. 0.73

00:44:31.720 Deport those with no right to be here. 1.00

00:44:34.260 Accept biological reality.

00:44:36.740 Fight back against wokery. 1.00

00:44:39.120 Bulldoze nonsensical foreign aid.

00:44:41.220 Eradicate DEI.

00:44:44.040 Deliver sensible infrastructure.

00:44:46.520 Carpet bomb public sector waste.

00:44:49.640 Brutally crack down on crime.

00:44:52.140 And plenty more.

00:44:53.560 Let's make Great Britain great again.

00:44:56.800 Thank you.

00:44:59.260 I love that.

00:45:01.340 Now, that's not going to go necessarily with all of our interests.

00:45:05.500 You know.

00:45:06.680 But I love that.

00:45:07.860 Make Britain great again.

00:45:16.700 And I really don't understand.

00:45:18.000 With the exception of a couple of things.

00:45:19.400 I don't understand how you could disagree with a lot of what he just said.

00:45:23.520 I mean, you might say, oh, I don't agree with the wokism thing. 0.99

00:45:27.400 What did he call it?

00:45:28.160 Wokery?

00:45:28.720 I love that.

00:45:30.260 I swear, if you're English, you just sound smarter.

00:45:33.320 If I said, you know, none of this wokery stuff, it'd sound like a hick. 0.99

00:45:38.280 But, I don't know.

00:45:39.820 When you say it, abolish wokery, it just sounds smart, doesn't it? 1.00

00:45:46.900 Well, it's not.

00:45:47.660 They're no smarter than us.

00:45:48.940 Anyway.

00:45:49.180 I hope this is a trend.

00:45:58.400 I would love to be, I'd love to be the old man that I played for you here just a few minutes ago.

00:46:05.880 I'd love to be his age.

00:46:12.460 Papa Jake.

00:46:14.440 Sitting in a chair, 100 years old.

00:46:21.660 Still have that bright attitude.

00:46:23.300 Still have, you know, love of country and love of one another.

00:46:33.460 And for as much trouble as the country is in, he wasn't, he didn't give that off.

00:46:40.120 He just gave this, I don't know how to do this, but he just gave off this love of country and countrymen.

00:46:51.100 Without being brash or angry.

00:46:59.560 I'd urge you today to try to be a little bit more, maybe, like Papa Jake.

00:47:12.980 Or strive that maybe someday you can be like him.

00:47:23.540 And maybe, maybe on that day, oh, there might be a few beers shared between us.

00:47:31.080 But there'll be a hearty handshake to say, congratulations, it's over.

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The Glenn Beck Program - June 24, 2025

Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Steve Bannon ｜ 6⧸24⧸25

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