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In this episode of The Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn sits down with the crew from the show to discuss the 7 deadly worldviews and why they should be broken down in greater detail. Glenn also talks about his new book, Rules for patriots and why he wrote it.
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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back here on the glenn beck program i am steve dace totters and aaron mcintyre are here with
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me as well we are the crew from the steve day show on blaze tv radio and podcast each weekday
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right after glenn beck filling in for glenn here these final two days of 2019 we got a ton of great
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reaction uh to yesterday's show uh about the seven deadly worldviews i probably spent the last half
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hour or so uh last night before i went to bed trying to answer as many of those as we could
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uh the most uh frequent question i received is hey can i can i get a further breakdown of those
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in written form and i should have mentioned this during yesterday's program i totally forgot
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um i wrote a book back in 2016 glenn was very kind here to profile on the show which helped us sell
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a lot of copies by the way um it's called a nefarious plot uh you can still order it over
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at amazon.com but a lot of those seven deadly worldviews in fact all of them are broken down
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in greater detail if you want to learn more about those uh you can get to the book it's called a
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nefarious plot there it is on our shelf thank you aaron of course we have a radio audience of 500
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stations across the country they don't know that and i got to remember that all right because we're
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used to doing a tv show so again if you're listening to us on one of those 500 radio stations
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across the country go to amazon.com and get a copy of a nefarious plot if you want to learn more about
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those seven deadly worldviews if you want to learn more about us and why wouldn't you of course
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blaze tv.com slash dace is how you can watch our show every day uh here on blaze tv you can also
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2 eastern right after glenn beck so yesterday we we we spent part one looking at the landscape
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that that we're called to engage what are we up against from a belief system from a worldview
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standpoint today we're going to be more practical how do we advance what we as conservatives actually
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believe how do we conserve because that's what it means to be a conservative to conserve so how do we
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conserve that which has proven through the course of history to be what's best right true and beautiful
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for the human condition east of eden how do we do that and five years ago i i wrote a book um called
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rules for patriots where i i kind of laid out everything i had learned um from my own time i think
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what makes me a little bit more unique than a lot of people that do conservative media shows
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is i've actually worked and been involved in kind of the technocratic nuts and bolts side of politics i've
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worked on campaigns i've recruited candidates i've consulted with campaigns i've done strategy
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for them and and so i've i've kind of got a foot in in both sides here you know the big idea you know
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philosophical worldview side that we focus in on often in conservative media but then the nuts and
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bolts side you know when we have candidates that represent our values and they run for office how do
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they get from point a to point b how do they how do they run on these themes what does that look like
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and so i wanted to put together um kind of a compilation of of the best things i've learned
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over the years and i wrote this book called rules for patriots that was published uh about five years
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ago and was endorsed at the time by uh who's who of people in in conservatism i i don't know that
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you're going to find too many books that get the endorsement of mucky mucks at the american family
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association and freedom works and and um you know uh you look at donald trump endorsed the book
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uh at the time when he was thinking of running for president newt gingrich endorsed the book at the
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time i mean it's a pretty diverse cross section of of people and involved on the on the right who
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took a look at the book and were willing to endorse it for their audiences and i've done a lot of
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talks and meetings about the book and stuff uh over the years but when i when i found that
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you know i i thought this stuff was good because i've done it and then i've seen it used against
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me and done by others and when i got final confirmation that i thought we were on to something
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is i got i got a call one day from a guy named sam nunberg and it was july of 2015 so several months
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after the book came out and we had just had an event here in iowa that's where i live i grew up
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in grand prince michigan but i was born in here in des moines iowa and that's where i raised my family
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now so i've been that's one of the reasons i'm so heavily involved in the technocratic side of
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politics is the iowa caucuses i've been heavily involved in that for a few cycles now and i worked
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for the ted cruz campaign this last go around and i got a call from a guy before i had declared for a
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candidate and decided which candidate i was going to support slash work for in this last cycle um
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one of the campaigns that was interested in me was donald trump's and the day before we had had
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this massive event carried by c-span i co-mc'd it with frank lens of fox news where 13 presidential
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candidates were here giving their pitches spiels uh to well over a thousand activists here for the
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iowa conservative activists for the iowa caucuses and i was i was standing backstage um to be
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essentially closed for lack of a better description by trump to to come on board
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and um i still wasn't 100 sure i could do this you know um but i was going to certainly listen to the
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pitch of a guy of this magnitude and todd you and i that whole summer we're like yeah we see the
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samson bull in a china shop potential but can we really that's a pretty big worldview leap right we
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had how many of those conversations behind the scenes you and i had that summer as you kind of
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just being a sounding board and and and your willingness to ask because because my ego wanted
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all in on this okay but you were willing to ask a lot of the kind of the larger picture questions
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kind of help me keep my ego in check and so we did a lot of game theory with this and how it would
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look right and and so i'm standing there backstage and trump's being interviewed by frank
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luntz and he talks about how um that was the moment when he said that uh when john mccain's name
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came up and i'm i'm no fan of john mccain as a politician anyway uh certainly appreciated his
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service to the country but as a politician um he hated people like us i just detested conservatives
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so i if you're if if i think you're going too far in criticizing john mccain that's probably too far
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and when he said you know i i like soldiers who weren't captured and the and the groans in the
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crowd and several other things he said and i'm like i there's no way i can i can at least not in a
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primary when there's so many other conservative candidates whose records are proven there's no way
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i can do this and we were actually doing a live show uh for a national radio network that day and
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i was breaking you were you were hoping helping to co-anchor the show when i was doing my mc events
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so i was coming back and forth from the stage to our stage right and i came back and you guys were
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like hey that was fast i'm like i can't it just can't happen you guys watched what happened out
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there i can't i can't get on board with this you know so the next day my wife and i are at a
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going to a movie after church and i get a i've got a voicemail which my guy named sam
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nunberg who at the time was essentially trump's political um operator rant was running trump's
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political machine and he said hey um i'm i'm you know you need to see this uh article i just ghost
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wrote for trump for usa today about his comments about mccain and so he sent me the link and i read
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the link and it was titled i will not apologize i think is what it was titled and he just refused
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to accept the premise that john mccain was an unassailable figure and and he even went so far
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he even reversed the premise and went so far trump did in this piece that sam ghost wrote for
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him to claim he's done more for pow's over the years than the former pow john mccain i'm am i am
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am amy is reading this to me while i'm driving home from the theater and i am just incredulous okay
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at the chutzpah right and i called sam back and i and i thought you know sam and i are still friends
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and i thought this i thought there was a chance though this might be the last time we were ever
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going to talk because a lot of times in politics people are your friends when they need you
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or you have something they want and then when you don't anymore they're not you know and i was like
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bold strategy cotton all right nice knowing you i thought there's that this has no chance to work
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and then he stopped me dead in my trash he goes i'm really surprised i just used the tactics out of
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your own book when i ghost wrote this this you should have recognized these tactics you should have
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appreciated them it's right out of rules for patriots so a week later i was convinced trump
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was toast as a candidate a week later i called uh the guy running his iowa campaign named chuck
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laudner figuring maybe him and i might figure out you know because i'm about to decide who i'm going
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to support maybe we'd figure out we'd support the same person and he's like steve i i was about to
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walk away from this like everybody else i was offended at what he said but we are i'm i've never gotten
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more response from an audience around the country i've got military people who are who are sending
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us notes telling me i don't even like donald trump i am just so glad that finally someone said
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something they really think and didn't freaking apologize to the media that hates us for it
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afterwards i didn't even like it i don't even agree with it thought it was appalling but it's not
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nearly as appalling as as the lies and fake news that the media that hates him and hates us feeds me
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every single day that the only reason i think government's too big under obama is i'm a racist
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the only reason i think a child is better off with a father and a mother is i'm a homophobe the only
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reason i think the border ought to be secured is i'm a xenophobe i'll take his appalling over that
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any day of the week and it stopped me dead in my tracks and you and i had conversations about this at
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the time too and thought maybe maybe well i had two responses a there's there's something different
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going on out there than we anticipated and b holy crap the stuff in this book works i mean i thought
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it worked all right but to see it played out and tried out on such a large stage was kind of the
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final confirmation and and that's why today what i want to do is i want to share with you some of the
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principles that were used that day to essentially salvage donald trump's nascent presidential campaign
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when we all thought it was done and and how these 10 commandments of political warfare how they can be
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used by us to elevate our principles and help them win the day this is the best of the glenn beck
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program hi it's glenn if you're a subscriber to the podcast can you do us a favor and rate us on
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also uh look us up subscribe to our podcast on itunes stitcher and google play so yesterday we talked about
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worldview today we're going to talk about tactics how do we do what we actually believe how do we get
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it done get her done how do we do that our 10 commandments of political warfare this is number
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one for a reason never trust republicrats do not trust someone just because they talk a good
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conservative game i believe there's a famous line from an all-time bestseller that says faith
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that works is what uh dead that would be dead all right show me your works and i'll show you your
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faith right show me your faith and i'll show your works it's a symbiotic relationship in politics you
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are the hills you die on not the slogans you spout let me say that again in politics you are the hills
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you die on not the slogans you spout i could look at any unkept promise by this president in his first
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term and it would come down to one thing a trusting of republicrats they didn't repeal obamacare he
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outsourced that to paul ryan and mitch mcconnell they they don't believe in that stuff they weren't
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going to do it we still got soldiers standing around in afghanistan waiting to get ied to death
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like a glorified well outfitted mall cop in one of the armpits of this planet for reasons only a law
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knows has no other than its poppy fields it serves no strategic benefit whatsoever
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why boy the pentagon is full of those kinds of republicrats people love to talk america first
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in the jingoistic game but in the end when some muslim terrorists coordinate a shooting
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at a pensacola military base the first concern is let's make sure this doesn't impact our saudi
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troop sharing program priorities yes in the end you're the hills you die on not the slogan just
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about let me prove this to you in the most painful way possible all right so this is one of
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our favorite games todd the audience could not see your smile so it's our spiritual gift yes um
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one of our favorite games our sister site at the blaze is called conservative review
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and conservative reviews primary function is what's called a liberty score and it's to record
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on a rolling average of the last 50 votes on every conceivable issue just to continue updating how
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your members of congress are performing on conservatism
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what i love about this score is it just keeps rolling over and other than like a great group
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like club for growth is going to be focused on one slate of issues this can this takes every issue
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into account because a conservative review they reject well i'm a fiscal conservative and a social
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liberal no you're not there's no such thing that person doesn't exist okay except maybe at cato
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there's like five of those people on a floor all right but those votes don't exist those voters
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don't exist that person really doesn't exist in mass all right you're either a conservative or you're
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not okay and if you're offended by that by all means email me steve at stevedace.com i'll be
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happy to correct you okay um you you cannot limit government by promoting sodom and gomorrah because
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when there's immorality people are like you know what if if i get to do whatever i want and and if
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it blows up in my face i'm not paying for it i'm gonna make you pay for it instead that's how we got
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the welfare state in the first place folks all right so this liberty score just looks at how they
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actually vote on the issues that matter to you all of them i'm gonna give you a few names here
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because they're they've been in the news a lot you see them on fox news every night practically
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what do you what do you call them trademark what aaron what do you call them on our daily show
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conservative uh no it's actually new conservative heroes yes these are your new conservative heroes
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meaning i i own the libs in a in a soundbite or a video clip and now the the talking point has come
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down from mount valhalla um this these are now behold your new conservative heroes trademark trademark
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the name devin nunez has been in the news a little bit the last few years right just a little bit yeah
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i thought he did by the way we read his memo on our show when it came out and almost i can't think
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of something in his memo that was not proven to be true so let's give credit where credit is due all
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right he has done some good work on debunking the russian collusion hoax but in the end when when
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they create hoaxes on the next republican president you have because that's how they roll okay their
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names change sometimes it's julie swetnick sometimes it's anita hill the names change the scams remain
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the same right fire up the jimmy page the song remains the same all right in the end if you want to
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beat these people you got to beat them with a better society with with the right principles
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his liberty score and he's been in congress for 15 years
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well a lot of you're gonna be drinking tonight so let's just go ahead and be honest with you all
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that's not even a moses malone foe foe foe foe 33 33 that means almost 70 of the time
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your new conservative hero devin nunez votes with the very democrats that you believe uh that he'll
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be slaying tonight on your behalf on his 798th consecutive appearance on the laurie ingram program
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you just hate freedom steve indeed yes lindsey graham oh yeah remember he went off he saved
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brett kavanaugh that's the biggest travesty i've ever seen these were my friends these were my friends
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you were supposed to do this to one of them conservative judges i don't like
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not not want to not car a robe in a black robe that's not that's not the rules of engagement around
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lindsey graham from the deep blue state of south carolina
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i i believe you can i think in fact to get elected to the greenville and i love greenville
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we have one of our offices there in greenville south carolina correct me if i'm wrong if you're
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listing there from the home branch in greenville this morning i believe to get elected to the city
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council in greenville south carolina you must be able to recite the entire new england primer
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word for word in page order i believe that's how red south carolina is right lindsey graham
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liberty score 30 30 which means 70 of the time he votes like he represents bernie sanders vermont
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remember i told you guys yesterday pragmatism sucks lindsey graham's liberty score is living
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breathing proof how about the newest conservative hero oh yes she faced down
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adam schiff and jerry nadler the eisengard and mordor
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of mid of our middle earth the two towers of progressive dominance
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okay would you like to know her liberty score she's been in congress for five years for four years
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24 of the time she votes with you at least stefanik didn't even vote for the trump tax cuts guys
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that is the minimum threshold you have to be willing to vote for like any tax cut like literally any of
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them like you can't be one like anywhere like even chris christie cuts taxes even the rhinos cut taxes
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because everybody knows that is the minimum threshold the number one thing now for for those
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of us that have been republican activists number one thing we would know the republican party for is
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being pro-life pro-secondary right but for the for the within the skull and bones society of the
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republican party the vow you take no many pots tray all right when they when when you are brought in
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did you like that i do when you are brought in i took a shot at you yesterday i had to give one back
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this morning to my catholic editor over here to my right um and when you are a made um evolved blob
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of tissue fetal matter in the republican party the agreement is you must vote for any tax cut it just
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it's automatic you have to or you're out she didn't even vote for the trump tax cuts last year
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or in 2017 she couldn't even bring herself to do the bare minimum it takes remember in the man of
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steel movie you love so much when you find out that the s stands for hope in their language yes like
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what does the magic r really stand for rot gut yes yeah rancid how about wrong
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it's the new math yes so um elise stefanik who right now there are conservative women around the
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country right now saying to their daughters be more like her indeed
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vote against the number one reason your economy is booming right now the trump tax cuts do that
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if dude if you can't get a republican to go to cut your taxes and that is the point you might as
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well just vote democrat because you're going to get everything else that the democrats want to
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what was it that you pointed out regarding this how how these republicans
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run in red states versus how progressives run yeah we're gonna get to that in a second too i gotta
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get to one more though because because there was a huge blow up about doug collins the congressman in
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georgia who's got lots of cool quips going off on muller and the and the all these hoaxes we've all
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had to endure for the last year all right his liberty score in deep red georgia 48 percent
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remember when reagan said the person who's your 80 friend isn't your 20 enemy what about the person
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who's the 50 enemy 70 enemy are they are they a 20 or 30 friend and if you think these are isolated
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oh there's more you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program my name is steve dace i'm here
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and all the other great programming we do each day at blaze tv blaze tv.com slash days so we spent an
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entire opening hour on the first of the 10 commandments of political warfare from my book
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rules for patriots which i wanted to write the antidote to solilinsky's rules for radicals how
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do we actually have principles that elevate those of us that believe in god-given rights rather than
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emulating the principles of a book dedicated to lucifer how do we do that that's what these 10
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commandments of political warfare are all about so now that we have i think at the very least
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enticed a number of you to consider how much you are willing to blind trust these republicans you
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elect because they gave you the sound bite you wanted on fox news tonight let's move on to the
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rest of the tactics gentlemen you ready to go let's get it yep let's go to number two second of our 10
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commandments never attack what you're not willing to kill this is a mistake i've seen conservatives make
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in public office way too often here's the reality the minute you become the republican nominee for any
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office in america that matters you are immediately a racist a misogynist a homophobe a xenophobe
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and you probably kick puppies immediate i look at john mccain the media did everything they could to
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get him the nomination 10 years ago five minutes after he clinched the nomination front page in the
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new york times uh he's got a mistress now i believe that story was debunked but you think
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that they just found out about that five minutes after he clinched the nomination or do you think
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they probably had that story ready the entire time and if he hadn't clinched the nomination there would
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be no point in running that story because then they could still use him to book him every sunday
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morning to use and spew their talking points against people like us right that's the way the
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game is played you're a green bay packers fan right todd yeah you're the legendary coach vince
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lombardi always used to say to his players if you're gonna go over the middle catch the ball because when
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you go over the middle you know that safety's coming up behind you he he can't see if you caught
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the ball or not most of the time and so he is caught to play you the the player not the ball
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that so that's why he hits you to try to stop you and separate you from the ball so you're going to
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get hit going over the middle sticking out those out how many times on an nfl sunday or a college
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football saturday do you see guys stick the alligator arms out there right meaning they they don't fully
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extend for the ball and then they get cold jacked anyway and you're screaming as a fan just catch the
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ball you're gonna get hit anyway what was the point of taking the hit if you're not going to move the
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chains or or score the touchdown right correct yes all too often you see the people representing
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you think you know if i if i if i just stop here they'll be nice to me no they won't no they won't
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you want a great example of what of what it looks like to never attack what you're not willing to kill
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go watch donald trump jr's recent appearance on the view a few weeks ago dude loaded up came came
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loaded man emptied the freaking chamber and then with bodies twitching and smoke pouring forth from
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the barrel went for a refill cocked again unloaded the chamber again and then was like austin powers
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i'm spent that's that's what you do guys well of course you do but uh we need a better this is like
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the the reverse of the joker we need a better class of criminal and i'm gonna give it to him sort of thing
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but this is this is really really hard to do because ultimately a lot of our candidates get
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involved listen they're pageant parents is what they are this is they really want the ribbon the
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the ceremony all of that stuff and you don't have to be a jerk you listen it's easy we're quite good
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at it uh but you don't have to go in there name calling or anything like that this is about the
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ideas kill the ideas i go back to john jr you watch that clip he's not he's not in there being a d-bag
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or anything i mean he's and if anything his delivery reminded me of chris farley and tommy boy
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bert you were there right when he looks over at when he looks over at whoopie goldberg and says i mean
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hey whoopie you you were i mean i mean joy you wore blackface too almost like come on we're all just
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ralph you're all part of the ralph northam society here right see that tactic doing it that way
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actually works even better because if you go in there with brow furrowed from the outset
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then they can right away just label you but when you go in there you know like kumo d how you like me
00:28:23.740
now you know i you know we're just sitting there having some coffee talk and the truth's on my side i got
00:28:29.360
nothing to fear this is a devastating tactic they're going to treat you like the covington kids
00:28:36.520
anyway anyway so what is the point of earning all of these bad names what why do any of this then
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if if you're not going to lay waste okay lay waste to the fortress then then then don't enlist
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because you'll be treated just the same as if you had anyway that brings us to commandment number
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three never accept the word never you're gonna find is used a lot here i like absolutes we we love
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absolutes on this show we embrace them we marinate in them we love them never accept the premise of
00:29:20.820
your opponent's argument never never never and again if you just tuned in this morning never in
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the original greek means never it's never os never os it's never um how are we doing that today oh you
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know and tons of things how many we all do it and i and we're all afraid of getting banned on social
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media right now everybody in conservative media is for the most part except for kurt schlichter
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i think he's begging for a ban god bless him all right i mean it's like he it's like kurt schlichter
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logs on twitter he's like looking for updates to their terms of service of what you can't say or do
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and it's like all right now i know i've got my marching orders for today all right and and i'm
00:30:14.560
i'm convinced they won't ban them because they just don't want to give them the satisfaction
00:30:17.800
so most of us in our industry are paranoid about getting banned from these platforms
00:30:23.940
because they're our primary conduit to reach most of you with with our clips and stories and it's how
00:30:29.760
you aggregate your information and news nowadays our ability to reach you is severely diminished without
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them and so what's happening is mental illness known as trans this and trans that but it's mental
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illness it's insanity i mean let me let me read for you this headline uh let me find it here from
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over at red state yesterday all right this headline is incredible um and it was a story out of the uk
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this is the headline i'm just going to read it verbatim a lesbian couple identifying as neither a straight
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nor gay couple has a miracle baby with the sperm of a man identifying as a woman thanks to a
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that's 2019 in one headline y'all right there yes it is and and red state is doing it this way for
00:31:17.640
two reasons one this is a devastatingly effective way of pointing out how insane this all is
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but two this is the most devastatingly effective way they could do so without violating the terms
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of service of the social media groups and getting banned if you verbalize your opponent's talking
00:31:34.000
points you're helping to advance them if you if you permit the premise of your opponent's argument
00:31:42.760
to be granted he will win the argument every time whoever's premise is accepted in an argument
00:31:48.480
always wins always wins we're always arguing bottom line bottom line bottom line they're always arguing
00:31:58.160
premise premise premise that's where the fight is at it's not at the end of the argument
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it's at the beginning todd that's why you have to who's the player former nationals now in the phillies
00:32:11.460
oh you're talking about bryce harper that's why you need to be comfortable saying that's a clown
00:32:16.360
question bro you you've got to have that in your arsenal and you have to say it a lot because the
00:32:21.500
media just comes at you over and over again with these ridiculous premises and it's fascinating that
00:32:26.880
you bring up read that headline because one of the best jobs you did this in real time with the local
00:32:32.360
guy on channel 13 you got to tell people about that because you basically said that's a clown
00:32:36.360
question yeah there was a local news guy and they had me when i was doing just local radio and they
00:32:41.060
used to do this feature local newsmakers for in a chair for 60 minutes they can ask anything
00:32:44.980
so i go into the chair and they want to ask me all kinds of questions about homosexuality all
00:32:50.440
right and they and he starts asking me questions like um do i have you know um do or do i think a
00:32:58.780
homosexual should be allowed to openly serve in the military and i said to him i i think all males and
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females who are able-bodied and can live by the uniformed code of military justice if they wish to
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volunteer to serve their country they ought to be able to and then he asked me again same question
00:33:13.380
i gave him the exact same answer all males and females that can serve and can live by the um
00:33:17.440
uh uniformed code of military justice should be able to he's like well what about what about gays i'm
00:33:23.560
like i only know of two forms of people male and female if you know of a third variation of the
00:33:28.740
species by all means you should be in the chair it's what i told him you should be let's switch
00:33:32.260
spots you're the newsmaker you're breaking news you're letting us know something science has not
00:33:36.540
previously told us i only know men and women and then he said to me goes well do you have any family
00:33:40.600
members who are gay because this was right after we had the election about throwing the judges out
00:33:44.380
over gay marriage here in iowa and i looked at him and i said well i believe that what someone i used
00:33:49.520
their own talking point against them i looked at him and said well i believe what someone does with
00:33:52.840
another consenting adult in their own bedroom is none of my business so i i don't call up my family
00:33:57.460
members and ask him hey did you have gay sex last night and that's how the that's how the exchange
00:34:02.900
ended right then and there that's what you're talking about december 31st 2009 you would have
00:34:08.640
probably been somewhere on the on the airwaves or maybe not because you were probably on break then
00:34:13.560
but around that time you would have been somewhere saying you know with the gay marriage debate this
00:34:18.720
would have been five and a half years before a burger fell with the gay marriage debate what
00:34:23.380
we're really debating here and you would have correctly pointed out is that there is no gender
00:34:27.560
right and of course you would have been told oh you're just making a slippery slope argument this is
00:34:31.880
just about um this is just about love is love and love is equal and and all of this 10 years later
00:34:37.900
december 31st it's that red state headline because ultimately we're saying it's not natural for men to
00:34:43.320
be attracted to women and women to be attracted to men and that's how we perpetuate the species that's
00:34:47.520
that's really what you're saying is those aren't god-given or nature-ordained instincts and desires
00:34:53.860
and wants and and and that's why we're going to justify no longer recognizing that and undoing them
00:34:59.260
so what you're really saying if you take your argument to its logical premise you're saying
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there's no gender and i'd bring these people on as you point out they'd lose their minds but now what
00:35:07.980
is what is the argument what's been the number one cultural flashpoint we've had all year in 2019
00:35:12.900
the very gender argument they used to deny to people like me they really wanted to have all along
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