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00:00:00.000 welcome to the podcast it is uh it's an interesting time in the coronavirus saga we get into that

00:00:06.000 today talking about sort of a maybe a turn in the tide of the public opinion where people are

00:00:12.120 starting to think well this is a dangerous thing but when does it end how do we end it we need to

00:00:17.320 figure out something before the economy dissolves in front of our eyes also looking at what else

00:00:22.340 the spending is going to do to us we're talking about multiple trillions of dollars that are

00:00:28.060 going to be spent uh steve dace joins us to outline his new column which is up on the blaze.com which

00:00:33.480 kind of talks about whether we have enough facts to make the decisions about coronavirus and we uh

00:00:39.200 get into a bunch of other stuff as well make sure you check it out you know this this really does

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00:01:26.580 all right our coronavirus update from john hopkins university the daily stats are locked in at 5 30

00:01:38.700 a.m central time total confirmed cases worldwide 341 632 think of that that's up almost 100 uh i'm sorry

00:01:51.400 yeah a hundred thousand holy cow that's up almost a hundred thousand since friday total confirmed deaths

00:02:00.440 14 749 that is up almost 5 000 or five yeah 5 000 these numbers are they're getting so huge and the jumps are getting so huge it's hard to

00:02:14.280 even imagine total confirmed recovered worldwide 99 000 up 10 000 from friday total confirmed recovered

00:02:23.220 worldwide 89 000 up from 85 now 192 countries have confirmed cases up from 182 only two countries the marshall islands

00:02:35.920 and saint kitts do not have confirmed cases saint kitts isn't that not a place where all the rich people live

00:02:42.220 saint kitts yeah that's very nice very nice saint kitts have you been to saint kitts i i've never been there

00:02:48.160 i've done a lot of research on it because you can buy citizenship there uh so i'm really i'm very much

00:02:53.140 looking into that uh as we see more and more attractive the price might be going up as we speak

00:02:57.500 if it's uh what what is what is citizenship cost nowadays um it varies very widely depending on where

00:03:06.600 you would like to go really there are like saint kitts they don't have they don't have the coronavirus i

00:03:11.400 believe saint kitts is several hundred thousand dollars uh which is okay a lot not buying a lot less

00:03:17.320 expensive is there like a kit is there like a kit saint kitts like a kit car but it's not exactly

00:03:23.880 saint kitts but it's kind of a knockoff that's a lot cheaper there are i got a hundred bucks what

00:03:29.280 country would take me um there's not a lot that will do it for a hundred bucks there are some all

00:03:34.820 right that that are like countries you've like never heard of they're like landlocked in the middle

00:03:40.340 of madagascar that you can go to yeah for cheaper yeah there's one right right there that the the

00:03:46.260 pirates like to to take right off right off of africa that you're like oh well they'll take you

00:03:52.440 yeah they'll also they've got pirates hanging out there all the time too army maybe yeah five percent

00:03:58.020 now of active cases are considered serious requiring hospitalization that's steady from five percent

00:04:04.300 friday but remember three weeks ago that number was 19 percent by the way our sincerest thoughts and

00:04:13.380 prayers to amy klobuchar's husband john who has the coronavirus is not on a respirator yet but is

00:04:21.900 getting oxygen he was coughing up blood it it's very bad for him so please keep klobuchar's the

00:04:28.520 klobuchar's in your prayers um you know i may not vote her way but she's an american and we're all in

00:04:36.440 this one uh together and who's going to be the first celebrity stew who's going to be the first

00:04:42.160 person that gets this that dies i think that will be a significant moment you know if we would have

00:04:48.680 lost tom hanks or rita that would have been bad yeah no i know i do think that there's a moment like

00:04:54.300 that that's very potentially possible here where you you see one of these people who seem you know you

00:04:59.920 think a lot of these people almost seem uh insurmountably protected from the world right

00:05:07.100 did you hear did you see the press conference on friday with what the president said he said he can't

00:05:12.260 walk into a room without somebody taking his temperature he said every time you move from

00:05:16.700 room to room in the white house somebody's there beep beep beep taking your temperature

00:05:20.760 unbelievable imagine i know so it's a different world man one people one billion people now

00:05:27.080 sheltering in place more than a billion people remain indoors in india for a 14 hour curfew as

00:05:34.140 singapore banned all short-term visitors now you know what's amazing is they only had a 14 hour curfew in

00:05:42.400 india if you're going to keep people inside india seems like didn't i've always wanted to go to india

00:05:49.120 but i've never wanted to go to india you know it's one of those i'd love to see the taj mahal i'd love to

00:05:54.420 go see you know a beautiful place in india uh that i can't name right now i'd like to go to india

00:06:02.060 i think it would be a wild experience but i want the india that i see like in uh oh i don't know uh

00:06:08.820 indiana jones where it doesn't smell i can go to the counter for popcorn and a coke you know what i

00:06:16.660 mean i want i want to experience some of these places maybe just in the movies i'd like to go but

00:06:23.180 i don't think i ever will because it doesn't seem like a safe place um all right planting season is

00:06:29.760 here and there is a worker shortage this one could be a problem the farming industry is warning that

00:06:37.780 immigrant visa restrictions due to the coronavirus pandemic could mean a loss in farm labor sharp enough

00:06:44.620 to hurt its ability to get many items to the grocery store shelves if the current policy holds

00:06:50.940 we will have some very serious shortages of labor that's according to the western growers association

00:06:56.680 we don't go out and pick our own fields we don't do that and i don't see american children running out

00:07:03.700 to do that anytime soon um this could be a real problem uh coming at the end of the growing season

00:07:13.920 we really need to have the president look into that respiratory therapist describes the terrifying

00:07:20.400 lung failure from covid19 even in his young patients he said it first struck me how different it was

00:07:28.460 and how my first from my first corona patient i was like holy crap this is definitely not like the flu

00:07:35.820 watching this relatively young guy gasping for air pink frothy secretions coming out of his tube said

00:07:42.260 the therapist on condition of anonymity because he's not authorized to speak at his hospital

00:07:47.340 but reading about it in the news i knew it was going to be bad but we deal with the flu every year so i

00:07:54.220 was thinking well it's probably not that much worse but seeing patients with covid19 it has completely

00:08:00.100 changed my perspective it is a lot more frightening donald trump on sunday announced that he has activated

00:08:07.440 the national guard in california new york and washington state in order to combat the spread of coronavirus

00:08:13.360 he said this is war and we're going to treat it like a war the administration emphasized the deployment of

00:08:20.060 guard members does not constitute martial law there's a really nasty rumor going on around martial law

00:08:26.660 and it is a rumor the the um some units have been put under notice to remain prepared to be called up for

00:08:37.760 service here in america but that is not for martial law and that is not nationwide state governors retain

00:08:45.420 command of the national guard but federal emergency management agency will cover all of the cost of the

00:08:50.260 missions to respond to the virus outbreak that's according to the president that's huge the huge

00:08:56.360 the white house said more than 1100 troops should be deployed to start with more to follow as needed

00:09:01.860 is anybody else sick of de blasio and everybody else just tearing down the president that he can do

00:09:08.020 no good i i mean i can't i can't take it anymore what are you guys doing and by the way have you seen the

00:09:15.660 latest poll numbers looks like cuomo starting to make an impact was cuomo just was this a stealth run

00:09:23.300 for mar for uh for uh governor cuomo is it is that what this is was he just because he's been you know

00:09:32.560 forefront in the news now again he is the governor of new york and his brother is on cnn but now there

00:09:39.660 are those in the democratic party that are saying oh you know maybe he should run for president

00:09:46.160 senate democrats block covid19 stimulus and relief plan the trillion dollar coronavirus uh stimulus

00:09:53.240 package that would help offset the devastating economic effects of the virus hit a roadblock

00:09:58.300 last night as democrats blocked the procedural vote on the measure uh it was deadlocked at 47 with

00:10:05.340 five republicans not in the chamber including senator ran paul who announced sunday that he does have the

00:10:11.800 virus mnuchin our treasury secretary said that the bill which has grown to as much as 1.8 trillion

00:10:19.380 includes direct deposit checks to americans and expanded unemployment benefits democrats want more money

00:10:27.040 guaranteed toward child care expanding funding funding for women's health care and more for the aid

00:10:32.640 package guaranteed to go toward hospital and health care workers you know i love this funding for

00:10:39.600 women's health care what do you think what do you think they meant in that uh stew they're from the

00:10:44.320 new from the new york times what do you think that was the only kind of health care that matters for

00:10:48.880 women to democrats which is of course uh aborting their baby yeah so from grocery stores to the elderly

00:10:56.420 delivering meals or offering free classes online online acts of kindness during the coronavirus pandemic

00:11:02.340 are providing uplifting moments of joy in the united states where we are just freaking out it seems

00:11:09.300 all the time you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:11:18.180 welcome to the glenn beck program we're glad you're here uh there is a vote going on here in a second

00:11:34.520 give me an update on the stock market will you stew uh yeah it's at a couple hundred points uh they're

00:11:39.160 waiting for the vote of course and there was a very large uh you've got a speaker on or something

00:11:43.860 there i know i know there's a very large promise from uh the uh fed that uh said they would give

00:11:52.120 unlimited money basically to back the economy that's what they're promising so so i could you

00:11:58.420 just say that again because i think that's uh what was that again just just unlimited money from the

00:12:04.180 fed to back the economy which is totally sustainable like we should totally look at that as a long-term

00:12:09.760 solution yeah right so there's no limit to the money that they will use to bail out the market

00:12:16.860 now see when i see something like that i think to myself oh now's not the time to put money into the

00:12:25.900 market right does that does that help you or make things worse because for me i'm like oh

00:12:33.200 no that's not a good sign no that's not a good sign no it's not it's a little yeah these things so

00:12:42.240 far haven't worked right they've tried this over and over again over the past couple weeks where

00:12:46.340 they're just dumping remember the first ask for the stimulus project uh process was 750 billion dollars

00:12:52.620 by chuck schumer and then the administration came back to 850 billion dollars we're now north of two

00:12:58.700 trillion dollars and we should add on to that that it's that does not include the four trillion

00:13:04.220 dollars they're promising in uh backing from the fed and other uh and now i guess unlimited money

00:13:10.820 yeah that's what they're saying that's only six trillion that's not that's not like four quadrillion

00:13:14.880 that's a great point if you compare it to that well remember remember yeah remember it remember the

00:13:22.240 banks are only uh with the the cdo's now they're only a quarter of a quadrillion dollars deep so

00:13:30.880 yeah you know it used to be you know that a trillion dollars here and a trillion there added up to some

00:13:36.220 real money i'm glad that's not the case anymore amen brother yeah you remember when a trillion dollars

00:13:43.580 meant something everyone 775 billion remember it was 770 or 775 something like that for a tarp and we

00:13:53.000 were we were freaking out 700 billion dollars now they're like on whatever doesn't matter four trillion

00:14:01.240 we did last week i think we could do another seven and we just got to keep those printing machines just

00:14:06.900 well oiled holy cow money is like doritos corn chips now you just eat all you want we'll make

00:14:14.080 more spend all you want we'll print more that's great right it doesn't matter yeah i love it uh so

00:14:20.360 let me uh let me just go over the news the reason why we're looking at the market is not because it's

00:14:26.120 what we do every day here in the last few weeks uh but uh also because mitch mcconnell had a vote in

00:14:33.320 the senate last night uh and it didn't go well uh 47 votes uh from the gop not a single single person

00:14:43.640 uh voted for it on the democratic side and he said okay here's what we're gonna do we're gonna vote at

00:14:50.380 9 45 in the morning the exact same vote that we had at 6 p.m tonight we're gonna vote 9 45 tomorrow

00:14:57.280 morning 15 minutes after the markets open i'll see if there's a change of heart then

00:15:01.600 holy cow holy cow uh that sounds like a democratic move quite honestly yeah i wish it wasn't on a

00:15:10.720 spending thing but i am glad they finally you know learned how to do that yeah it's good to see the

00:15:18.660 republicans with some giblets for a change because they never do this they they never force their will

00:15:23.920 even when they have the majority and and when they have the majority in all three branches they still

00:15:29.220 don't so it's it's kind of nice to see that they're you know at least trying to do something

00:15:33.000 they're trying to do the wrong thing but at least they're trying to do something well um nancy pelosi

00:15:39.920 is offering her own emergency support bill uh and uh and that's fun and that's fantastic i'm so happy

00:15:46.260 for it did you guys see that um there is a democratic group now that has launched a six million dollar

00:15:52.660 campaign attacking trump on coronavirus response no does anybody think that's going to be working

00:15:58.820 that's going to work well for them no not in the middle of it certainly i mean if it gets completely

00:16:04.200 out of control they may look back at it and and you know pick them apart or whatever they're going to

00:16:08.680 try that i mean you've noticed the testing talking point has gone completely out the window when's the

00:16:13.220 last time you heard it gone gone it's dead because they you know it's ramped up so quickly and now

00:16:17.360 we're testing at rates three times what south korea uh well at least in numbers i should say

00:16:22.600 uh three times as many as south korea is testing which is pretty impressive and it's happened pretty

00:16:27.460 quickly that talking point's just gone now you just let you just eliminate that one from your memory

00:16:31.940 remember it was the most important thing well there's nobody there's yeah there was nobody as good as

00:16:37.200 south korea just last week and i guess there's not anybody that's beaten them yeah no it's uh we were

00:16:43.000 testing so there was a story i think it was science magazine ran a story last week of the

00:16:47.340 amazing accomplishment of south korea than they had we're testing 15 000 people a day which is an

00:16:52.720 incredible number and it was an incredible number until uh the united states kind of came into the

00:16:57.820 picture and last week we were right around them we had caught up to about 13 000 per day uh yesterday

00:17:04.420 we tested 45 627 people wow and that does that's includes most of it there's actually the number

00:17:11.160 slightly larger than that but that's all they can confirm by yesterday but still 45 000 people now

00:17:15.640 three times as many as south korea obviously we are a larger country and there's some qualifiers to

00:17:20.460 that number but the point is that we were testing almost nobody one week ago and we're already up to

00:17:25.320 45 000 we're going to pass south korean total tests this week and we this is why you need to

00:17:31.420 not freak out about the case numbers going through the roof the case numbers are unimportant largely

00:17:37.800 because of how many people we're testing we're testing at an incredible uh an incredibly increasing rate

00:17:45.640 going to go through the roof and we've talked about that we talked about that glenn what two weeks

00:17:49.020 ago on the show like that we're about to enter a period in which you're feel like you're sacrificing

00:17:53.220 a lot and the numbers keep going up and getting uglier and it's going to feel like you're wasting your

00:17:57.000 time even though it does take your breath away a little bit when you know that on friday it was

00:18:00.500 14 700 some and today it's 35 000 some yeah it's it's startling to you and but you're right

00:18:08.280 we're at the hockey stick we're at the hockey stick point yeah right but the deaths are really more

00:18:13.920 important to look at because you know the deaths are and those are increasing too they're just not

00:18:19.440 increasing at the type of rates that you're looking at for cases i think percentage wise it's actually

00:18:24.100 slowed down 458 out of 35 000 that's uh that's that's not a huge mortality rate i mean you don't

00:18:32.480 want anybody to die obviously but um those are lower numbers than pat stop it yes you do go ahead

00:18:39.040 you've got a list you've got a list you wouldn't mind people who are just kicking it

00:18:43.240 and there was a day that you would have given that list on the air you're right right that day is not

00:18:50.800 today though and that's not today not in fact that day is long gone long gone i noticed though that

00:19:00.900 you're not talking about the uh obviously the real issue the the thankfully there's the toronto star

00:19:06.940 which is disgusting you know because covet 19 is just something of a test run for worse news

00:19:14.800 which of course it's weight yes climate change it's a test it's it's climate climate change yeah

00:19:23.220 climate change could be so much worse than this you know uh i mean with all the hand washing

00:19:29.520 according to dr math lowski all the hand all the water or some of the water in some of the month will

00:19:38.540 completely disappear out of most of your water bottles within the next seven to nine millennia

00:19:50.380 and so it will be bad then so so in seven to nine thousand years the water in our water bottles may

00:20:00.680 not be actually water may be gone the seven to nine years the uh the point of the uh toronto star article

00:20:10.440 is just that a global heating is another universal danger where the suffering will be intensely personal

00:20:17.400 and why are we so frantic about covid 19 and we're not even talking about climate change

00:20:24.860 jeez i mean one because one's a hundred years away yeah maybe maybe maybe and probably not even then

00:20:33.620 maybe you're right and the other one is in your house yeah and we're even looking at this what are they

00:20:39.280 saying about oh look at look at they won't take it seriously no it's hard to take it seriously

00:20:45.340 when it's not here when it's not in your own backyard people need to see that it's in their

00:20:51.980 own backyard i think president trump is right you know he's he's looking at what are we going to do

00:20:57.840 in in 15 days he said at the end of the 15 day period we're going to have to look at this and re-evaluate

00:21:03.880 so i mean i think he's right people are people you know people will do it for a week they might even do

00:21:13.260 it for two weeks but any longer than two weeks there's a lot of people that 15 days uh you know

00:21:19.480 i don't know if that was wise because everybody i talked to they'll say oh yeah well we're two weeks

00:21:26.340 away from and i'm like no not really we are i think i really don't think we are i think it was a smart

00:21:32.640 thing to set up an attainable goal right where if you were to said oh look we're going to be doing this

00:21:37.740 for six months and after that we'll assess it like no one would have put up with that from the

00:21:41.920 beginning here he escaped 15 days where we can kind of all kind of come together and do it for 15

00:21:46.480 days but they better have a plan at the end of the 15 days there better be something that we're doing

00:21:50.980 that is well defined because the american people are not going to put up with this forever

00:21:54.400 no they're not it's not china what what you know everybody keeps asking for a plan

00:21:58.420 how how we don't know how this is going to work out how do you plan for this well i think you have

00:22:04.880 to have you have to have a um some ability for people to go back to work or change things up

00:22:12.940 whether it's just quarantining the most uh most vulnerable uh whether it's another two weeks of

00:22:19.040 quarantine and that's it whatever it is it can't be just open-ended forever unless unless the american

00:22:25.660 people see it looking really ugly if if you know like if if there's 25 000 dead people in new york city

00:22:32.540 then a lot of this calculus goes out the window but if this if this sort of stuff does not ramp up

00:22:38.320 the way that they keep telling us it is to to an example of gavin newsom saying 26 million people

00:22:44.980 in california in eight weeks would have this again if that's what we're looking at we probably are

00:22:51.000 willing to uh to sacrifice a lot on the economy and we'll probably stay inside a lot to avoid that

00:22:57.200 if it doesn't ramp up like that and people don't see it they're not going to put up with it

00:23:00.620 i really love trump's point though when he tweeted out today that we can't make the cure

00:23:05.160 worse than the problem yep i'm so glad that he actually recognized that and i hope the american

00:23:10.540 people you know conservatives at least republicans should certainly recognize that that we can't make

00:23:15.580 the cure worse than the problem and that's that's the risk you run by shutting america down

00:23:20.960 well what was the what was the governor that just was it illinois which which was the governor that

00:23:28.720 just shut things down and said look i i understand uh you know the the the decision i have to make i have

00:23:36.760 to make am i going to save lives and kill the economy or save the economy and and kill lives and that's

00:23:46.900 the problem here well we we don't know what we're dealing with for sure over here but i mean i don't

00:23:53.900 know if you saw this in italy they're now turning away anyone who is 60 the the care has become so

00:24:00.180 rationed that if you're 60 go home we don't we can't help you which is bizarre because of course

00:24:06.120 those are the people who need it the most right you know that it's it's very strange but i think like

00:24:10.800 that's the one big mistake we keep making is saying it's either the economy or lives and as as i think

00:24:16.260 trump is is illustrating today i know leon wolf had a good column on the blaze that illustrated the

00:24:20.580 same point the economy is lives that's what it is yeah it is the reason why we have an economy is to

00:24:25.900 make civilization and life better it's not all about flat screens although you know i certainly love the

00:24:30.500 flat screens but it's it's a lot bigger than that and it's the reason why you know we are able to

00:24:35.780 extend life expectancy and keep people alive is because of this economy so at some point there is a

00:24:41.600 trade-off uh there's a line where here's what i would like here's what i'd like to see at the end

00:24:47.780 of the 15 at the end of the 15 days the president and the cdc say all right there's enough uh vaccines

00:24:55.140 out there that if you test for it and you test you've already had it or you test negative go back

00:25:02.460 to work and you know we're just going to test everybody and as you get a test you can go to work

00:25:09.240 if you don't have it go back to work everyone else has to stay in their in their house i think

00:25:14.460 that at least gives you some light at the end of the tunnel um because i think that's what people

00:25:19.400 need right now it's just a little ray of sunshine something that they're aiming for

00:25:25.340 this is the best of the glenbeck program

00:25:31.280 this is the glenbeck program uh i want to bring steve dace in uh steve is is written a fascinating

00:25:44.700 uh fascinating op-ed for the blaze something that needs to be heard and needs to be considered

00:25:50.500 uh and it goes to the heart of of what i talked to you about originally i said the coronavirus is not

00:26:00.220 going to kill us we're going to survive uh we don't want to overwhelm the hospitals um because

00:26:05.680 that will take a great toll but also the real problem here the real killer is the economy and

00:26:13.300 i not i'm not sure how we get past what this thing is doing to the economy well steve has done his work

00:26:20.540 now he's been working on this uh for really a couple of weeks because it hasn't sat right with him

00:26:26.320 and he says i don't understand how we're making these decisions welcome to the program steve dace

00:26:33.060 hey glenn how are you brother i'm good i'm good i'm a little concerned steve because i feel like um

00:26:40.600 i feel i i believe the coronavirus is real i believe there is uh you know a pandemic etc etc

00:26:49.960 i don't know uh what i would necessarily do about it but i will tell you that my feeling is

00:26:56.420 this is being used uh to do some uh house cleaning and game changing

00:27:04.140 well one of the things the whole premise of this piece that's kind of a a compilation of of

00:27:11.680 everything i've been researching and writing and talking about in the last week is to frame this

00:27:17.620 now as a public policy debate and you know the constitution charges us with a president elected

00:27:24.980 by the people as our ceo not a team of subject matter experts not a surge in general um not a

00:27:32.800 joint chiefs of staff the presumption of our constitutional republic is that the average american

00:27:37.700 can be educated and informed enough to ask the kinds of questions that balance what are what what

00:27:44.540 really is the the you know the the unknown factor the collateral damage um of of every action rather

00:27:52.900 than just looking at it myopically and so to me the epidemiology is separate from the public policy

00:27:59.260 and the question that we have to ask and you know i worked on this piece glenn not knowing what the

00:28:04.520 president was going to tweet last night but the whole premise of this piece is to ask from a public

00:28:09.900 policy standpoint is the cure worse than the disease given the data that we currently have

00:28:16.880 which is very insufficient very incomplete and and has some anecdotal questions that beg asking which

00:28:23.480 is according to business insider apple said it was reopening its 42 stores in china last friday

00:28:28.940 did they do that have we even followed up because i don't i don't trust china's data at all and i'd

00:28:33.920 urge nobody in my audience to but i certainly trust tim cook tim cook's love of his share price

00:28:38.620 i certainly trust that south korea is resuming pro sports at the end of the month how are they doing

00:28:44.840 that japan is not is on the doorstep of wuhan washington dc is 8 000 miles away how are they

00:28:51.700 not on a societal wide lockdown i mean these are cultures that glenn have a lot more experience

00:28:57.660 with with chinese outbreaks and and then then we do and so i i think it's time for us this week

00:29:05.320 especially uh to look at this now from a public policy perspective with this 15 days about to

00:29:11.960 expire a week from tomorrow and ask ourselves based on the data we have now how is it possible

00:29:17.980 that the country that could go back to work post 9 11 um and and keep its economy roaring the country

00:29:24.520 that could put a man on the moon and keep its economy roaring how is it that a virus that right now

00:29:30.280 has a mortality rate amongst the limited affected of about 1.27 percent can manage to cripple the

00:29:36.920 entire american engine in ways the soviet bloc the nazis the japanese and islamic jihadists couldn't

00:29:43.580 i think we need to start asking that question so you you don't buy into the fact that this is as

00:29:51.560 dangerous as they say it is is that right i don't know i don't know how dangerous it is the question is

00:29:57.440 how what what's the law of unintended consequences for public policy that's the question all right so

00:30:03.600 the week before we shut the government down really most of the country down glenn the government

00:30:08.640 reported 7.7 percent of all deaths in america were that were because of the flu the week of march 7th

00:30:15.980 all right when you look at last year all these numbers and cite them in my piece when you look at

00:30:20.560 last year last year at this time the week of march 16th we had a massive spike on the flu bug

00:30:26.720 7.1 percent of everybody who had the flu that week in america died that's a massive cliff that

00:30:33.720 needs uh that need a curve that needs leveling why weren't we called to do that and keep in mind

00:30:38.660 we were seeing those numbers with flu glenn when we've got vaccines and all kinds of public awareness

00:30:43.740 about that disease that we don't have about covid19 and so i i think that question an average american

00:30:50.040 should ask is this given how acute how non-discriminatory i mean the flu goes from

00:30:55.520 infants to the elderly given how acute how non-discriminatory and far more lethal that the

00:31:01.600 cold and or that the flu and and pneumonia viruses are we and we didn't shut the country down for them

00:31:07.260 65 million americans were infected last cold and flu season or last flu season according to cdc why are we

00:31:14.500 doing this right now given the percentages of what we're looking at why haven't we taken more of a herd

00:31:20.940 immunity approach which has been taken for thousands of years in fighting plagues this might be the first

00:31:26.000 time in human history we sequestered the healthy rather than the sick and the vulnerable i just

00:31:30.800 think these are public and there might be good answers for these i keep telling my audience that

00:31:34.860 there might be really good answers for why we've done these things we don't have any of them and the

00:31:39.680 number one reason we don't is that a skeptical press is too far interested in playing a pr flag for china

00:31:45.820 been asking these kinds of questions at these briefings so what should we be doing

00:31:52.820 i think what do you think is what do you what do you if you're president of the united states or you

00:31:58.800 were advising the president what would you be doing well we would have locked down those all the borders

00:32:03.600 day one in five seconds we would have done that day one we would have banned international flights

00:32:08.780 i mean have you ever gone on expedia and charted a flight from wuhan china to spokane washington where

00:32:14.220 cdc is now saying that's the first case they currently have of co of covid 19 in america back

00:32:19.960 in january that's a 24-hour minimum flight you stop in peking lax and on most of these routes you've

00:32:26.840 got to stop in san francisco as well all right so i would have shut down every international flight day

00:32:31.620 one i would have shut down the borders day one protected the american people before we knew what

00:32:36.800 was going on my instinct would have been to do that day one now the president has done some of

00:32:41.200 these things grace gratefully as time has gone on but the next but but i like the 15 day period

00:32:47.160 that they put out i think that is a reasonable amount of time given the health the medical

00:32:52.460 infrastructure we have around the country i i while we're hurting ourselves now i don't believe

00:32:57.520 if 15 days is a mortal blow i think the psyche of the american people could come roaring back pretty

00:33:03.680 quickly feeling like they've conquered something if or overcome it if we really have and i think what

00:33:09.320 the president's message is this morning is right on the money in 15 days that's a week from tomorrow

00:33:13.800 when they launch this last uh monday we're gonna you know let's find out where we are really at

00:33:19.080 and then assess whether what the total socioeconomic cost is because this is the final question my piece

00:33:25.180 ends with the the question that our government has to wrestle with and we're a government of

00:33:30.740 representatives not experts the questions that have to be rest the number one question in my mind is

00:33:36.240 will any potential toll we pay as a society from covet 19 based on the data we have will it be more

00:33:43.900 expensive than the toll we are already paying by preemptively shutting down our government and i

00:33:49.140 think that's the equation that the president has to weigh on behalf of the american people and i know

00:33:54.980 people want to say well what about experts hey expertise is one thing worldview is another if i wanted to

00:34:01.040 invade afghanistan don't listen to me i mean i go get the joint chiefs of staff and ask them how to do it

00:34:05.820 but then if i wanted to know after 17 years why we're still circling the drain there and their

00:34:11.340 only response is well if we lose if we leave the loops okay well what does victory look like well we

00:34:16.900 we don't know we just keep doing this at some point expertise ends and worldview gets in the way and i

00:34:23.440 think that's why we have elected representatives that are directly accountable to us not a plutocracy

00:34:28.560 not an oligarchy not non-governmental organizations because we get to question those things even if you and

00:34:34.720 i go in a hospital and they give us a diagnosis of a terrible illness we still have the right as

00:34:40.200 patients to question whether the cure is worse than the disease so i think the president is right on the

00:34:45.940 money this morning and and i think that he is listening to these concerns now i i should caution

00:34:51.160 people we may not like the answers we get okay but at the very least they're questions that need to be

00:34:56.900 answered here's what the president said we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself at the

00:35:05.500 end of this 15 day period we will make a decision as to which way we want to go um we and the fed is

00:35:13.020 taking extraordinary steps i mean we are in wouldn't you agree we're we're just giving modern monetary

00:35:22.020 theory a whirl we're just like yep let's try it um i don't think right now we're basically saying

00:35:28.200 right now glenn that we can paint we can print any amount of paper because our military weaponry is

00:35:33.560 bigger than yours and nobody will call in the note that's essentially what we are doing right now

00:35:38.000 well nobody's calling nobody's buying our notes i mean the fed now is buying the notes i mean we're just

00:35:45.220 we're buying our own debt now we had a 30-year treasury uh bond sale what last friday friday before

00:35:52.520 last not a single bidder not one it all went to the fed so nobody wants our our debt anymore so now

00:36:01.580 we're at that place and so we're doing modern you know modern monetary theory where we're just printing

00:36:06.620 our own money and we're buying our own debt that's not going to last when they came out today

00:36:12.320 and to try to stabilize the the market and said uh don't worry we will print an unlimited amount of

00:36:19.660 money we will buy as many bonds as we have to to stabilize the market how do you recover from that

00:36:27.760 uh you do that the the least amount of time that you possibly can because if this goes on further

00:36:37.860 um you're talking about unless this is worse than the the 1918 epidemic a century ago unless this is

00:36:46.420 worse this is the worst plague that this nation has ever faced and on a systemic level beyond hospitals

00:36:53.120 being overrun all right we've got army corps of engineers just just build more adjunct sites

00:36:58.300 beyond beyond infrastructure being overrun that unless we're dealing with the captain trips here this is a

00:37:04.360 this is that level of a societal event you cannot justify that cause uh that cost now i'm not i don't

00:37:12.340 know that we have enough data to say affirmatively that it's not yet and that's why i think this 15

00:37:16.700 days is a wise course of action and but and i think what's going to happen is now that the president

00:37:23.380 has put this out there politically everyone in these various departments are now going to are now going

00:37:28.740 to hunker down because nobody wants to be left on the on the wrong side of history so the medical

00:37:33.780 people will become more alarmist the economic people will become more alarmist the political

00:37:38.260 people will become more alarmist because no one wants to be wrong on the other side of this and

00:37:42.620 so that's why i've also urged my audience pray for this president like you have never prayed for him

00:37:49.040 before this is going to take a a supernatural level of wisdom and courage of conviction to navigate

00:37:54.920 i would agree with you and his gut has proven to be right usually i mean i think this tweet that came

00:38:03.500 out this morning says a lot because i think that's exactly where the american people are

00:38:07.960 uh and hopefully uh hopefully that is also a part of a god thing

00:38:14.660 um

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