The Glenn Beck Program - December 07, 2021


Best of the Program | Guest: Steve Earnest | 12⧸7⧸21


Episode Stats

Length

37 minutes

Words per Minute

180.61595

Word Count

6,715

Sentence Count

708

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

19


Summary

It's time to remember who we are as a way to be able to find the future, and how dumb we were when we were 18 years old. Glenn Beck shares a personal story about when he first realized he was the dumbest person on the planet.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey, we've got a great podcast for you today.
00:00:02.360 It kind of starts with something personal that I've been talking to my son about.
00:00:06.380 It's time that we really remember who we are as a way to be able to find the future.
00:00:13.860 That and so much more.
00:00:15.040 And don't forget, tomorrow on the TV show, Wednesday night, 9 p.m., only on Blaze TV,
00:00:22.720 an hour with Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:00:25.220 A different kind of interview I think you're going to really enjoy.
00:00:27.820 And don't forget to make your conservative Christmas shine this holiday season with Glenn Beck merch.
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00:00:38.280 There's tons of great stuff up there that you'll like, I think.
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00:00:44.540 And please subscribe to the podcast as well as StuDoesAmerica.
00:00:47.900 We really appreciate it when you do that.
00:00:49.560 And if you don't, you're a communist.
00:00:50.780 Here's the podcast.
00:00:57.820 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:01:02.780 This is the Glenn Beck Program.
00:01:08.560 Tomorrow night on our Wednesday night special, an hour one-on-one with Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:01:15.540 You don't want to miss that.
00:01:17.000 That is tomorrow night, only on my Wednesday night special on Blaze TV.
00:01:21.960 Yeah, I was walking out of the studio last night after doing StuDoes America.
00:01:24.880 Yeah.
00:01:25.040 And just turned around, and then there's just Kyle Rittenhouse standing there.
00:01:29.260 It was really weird.
00:01:31.780 We have a really surreal job at times.
00:01:34.320 Yeah.
00:01:34.740 And the thing is, he's just like a normal kid.
00:01:37.320 Yeah, he is.
00:01:37.740 He's just, he had his two dogs with him.
00:01:39.920 He was just polite.
00:01:41.500 Seemed nice.
00:01:42.680 Yeah, I meet him today.
00:01:44.140 I'm excited.
00:01:45.540 Yeah.
00:01:45.880 I mean, look, he's been in the middle of a firestorm.
00:01:49.400 And, I don't know, there was a moment there that gave us a little bit of hope in humanity
00:01:54.320 and our legal system and so many other things.
00:01:56.700 Oh, yeah.
00:01:57.480 So, I mean, imagine going through that at 18.
00:02:00.400 You were just talking about how you don't even know who you are at that time.
00:02:03.240 No.
00:02:04.220 You have no idea.
00:02:05.500 I mean, you know, I thought we all thought, you know, when we were kids, at least I did,
00:02:09.640 I thought, 30?
00:02:11.240 Oh, you'll be dead by the time you're 30.
00:02:13.780 That's really old.
00:02:15.480 They don't know anything.
00:02:16.520 Uh, and, you know, and you hit 30 and you're like, whoa, wait a minute.
00:02:21.760 I still don't know anything.
00:02:23.300 I thought I had all the answers by the time I was 30.
00:02:26.420 It's, it's weird.
00:02:28.140 It's weird to be a 17, 18 year old kid and go through this his whole life.
00:02:35.100 Wow.
00:02:35.560 What a journey it's going to be.
00:02:36.960 I knew exactly who I was at 18.
00:02:38.960 Really?
00:02:39.420 Really?
00:02:40.260 Yeah.
00:02:40.580 I knew I was the dumbest person on the planet.
00:02:43.800 Wow.
00:02:44.280 That's close to it.
00:02:45.200 Can I tell you something?
00:02:45.900 That's a blessing.
00:02:46.960 Yeah.
00:02:47.180 That's a real blessing.
00:02:48.460 Yeah.
00:02:48.740 I wish.
00:02:49.300 That's when I started to, to change things was exactly at 18.
00:02:53.760 Really?
00:02:54.200 Yeah.
00:02:54.480 Why did you, why did you think you were the dumbest person on the planet?
00:02:57.520 Yeah.
00:02:57.820 I just did dumb things.
00:03:00.120 You know what I mean?
00:03:00.520 Care to share all of them?
00:03:01.920 No, I didn't care to share any of them.
00:03:03.060 I know Pat well enough to know this is not leading anywhere.
00:03:07.600 No, I'm just going to leave it at that.
00:03:08.880 He's just, he's leaving it at that.
00:03:10.440 And I know Pat well enough to know he's not joking about it.
00:03:14.300 He really did discover he was the dumbest kid.
00:03:19.060 And you're not going to hear about it.
00:03:21.500 Yeah.
00:03:22.060 No, that's true.
00:03:22.860 I've done multiple shows with you all this time and I've never, I didn't know you were
00:03:27.080 the dumbest person in the world at 18 or you'd done anything wrong in your entire life,
00:03:30.040 frankly.
00:03:30.600 Well, some of us has been his friends since the 1980s.
00:03:34.740 So you want to come to me on the day of my daughter's wedding and hear about Pat and
00:03:39.480 how dumb he was.
00:03:40.560 Maybe I can make that happen for you.
00:03:42.220 I like that.
00:03:42.760 But I will come to you and ask you for a favor and give me some dirt on somebody else
00:03:47.960 someday and you will give it to me.
00:03:50.260 Totally worth it.
00:03:51.300 Okay.
00:03:51.520 All right.
00:03:53.180 So, Pat, we're trying to look for some good news today.
00:03:56.260 Oh, okay.
00:03:56.880 Okay.
00:03:57.860 See, President Biden's throwing a democracy summit with 110 countries on the planet.
00:04:04.820 You know, 110 really great democracies like Pakistan.
00:04:09.920 I mean, is there a clearer indication of democratic people than the government of Pakistan?
00:04:16.720 So are we leading this democracy summit?
00:04:20.260 Uh-huh.
00:04:20.780 And what's the goal?
00:04:21.340 We put it together.
00:04:22.020 What's the goal of this?
00:04:23.480 Just to get together and talk about the important things facing democracies right now other than
00:04:30.060 COVID-19 lockdowns.
00:04:32.100 Oh, so we won't talk about that.
00:04:33.320 We won't talk about that because those aren't a problem.
00:04:35.640 You know, you look at Australia and you see how happy those people are not being able to
00:04:39.300 leave their front yard.
00:04:40.260 Sure, sure, sure.
00:04:40.780 And you know they've got democracy down.
00:04:43.020 And the riots all across Europe.
00:04:45.140 Yes.
00:04:45.520 Where people are like standing up and going, uh, no, you're not doing this to me for COVID.
00:04:50.340 I look at it a little bit differently because like when the Lakers win the championship,
00:04:55.240 people riot.
00:04:56.300 So I think they're really happy in Europe.
00:04:58.220 You could be on to something.
00:05:00.520 Yeah.
00:05:00.660 Or they're just trying to make a point about race.
00:05:03.720 A peaceful protest about race.
00:05:06.420 It could be that.
00:05:06.900 It could be that.
00:05:07.860 It could be that.
00:05:08.220 Now, China, I guess, also says that they too are a democracy.
00:05:12.620 Oh.
00:05:13.180 Yeah.
00:05:13.420 And they wanted to be included, but we're not including them.
00:05:16.160 Oh, boy.
00:05:17.060 Oh, boy.
00:05:18.020 But yeah, they don't have a, they don't have a democratic election.
00:05:20.640 I don't, I don't know if this, uh, I don't know how this is coming to you as good news.
00:05:25.820 Oh, really?
00:05:26.480 You don't like that?
00:05:27.420 No, no.
00:05:28.220 I.
00:05:28.760 Okay.
00:05:29.160 Well, then how about.
00:05:30.640 If you bring up the meeting that he has with Putin today, I'm going to hit you in the
00:05:34.460 face.
00:05:34.920 No, no.
00:05:35.260 How about this?
00:05:36.060 Yeah.
00:05:36.240 Okay.
00:05:36.900 Uh, Chris Cuomo, also known as Fredo, fired not just from CNN, but also SiriusXM.
00:05:43.340 That's right.
00:05:44.280 The fall of Fredo.
00:05:45.300 The fall of Fredo.
00:05:47.240 Oh, so sad.
00:05:47.340 So sad, isn't it?
00:05:47.940 So sad.
00:05:48.540 And yet so happy.
00:05:49.760 I knew it was you, Fredo.
00:05:51.380 I knew it was you.
00:05:53.460 Fredo wants to make sure that you are aware, however, of course, that he resigned from SiriusXM.
00:05:58.500 I see.
00:05:59.440 I see.
00:06:00.420 And that was just because he just wanted to spend more time with this.
00:06:05.520 With, with, with this, with somebody, somebody, somebody, somebody, somebody else, somebody.
00:06:12.960 Yeah.
00:06:13.300 Uh, Stu, I did get you a present.
00:06:15.300 You did?
00:06:15.600 I got you another present.
00:06:16.840 Yeah.
00:06:16.940 Another?
00:06:17.380 Yeah, another one.
00:06:17.960 No, really?
00:06:18.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:19.360 Oh, wow.
00:06:20.220 Yeah.
00:06:20.520 That is special.
00:06:21.520 It's a framed picture of the TV with the chyron that says, Chris Cuomo has been fired by CNN.
00:06:28.140 Now what?
00:06:29.420 And I thought that's really a good question for Stu.
00:06:32.240 Now what?
00:06:32.820 Now what do you do?
00:06:33.460 I don't have any show left to do.
00:06:35.320 Right.
00:06:35.540 There's no people left.
00:06:37.140 They've both been canned and they're gone.
00:06:38.220 So what do you do?
00:06:38.920 It's like, it's like me when progressivism is finally beaten and the Marxists go away.
00:06:43.620 Then I'll be like, well, now what do I do?
00:06:46.120 Yeah.
00:06:46.580 So.
00:06:47.080 There's no more shows to do.
00:06:48.400 Right.
00:06:48.480 There's no more people to talk about.
00:06:49.680 Right.
00:06:50.020 And, you know, you have that issue where everything, when you start talking about people and they
00:06:53.180 just keep getting fired, what do you do?
00:06:54.860 And I've got that void in my life now, the hours I spend listening to Chris on Sirius
00:07:00.380 XM and the hour that I used to spend watching his television program.
00:07:04.500 What am I going to do?
00:07:05.300 What are you going to do?
00:07:05.980 What am I going to do?
00:07:06.600 You've got all that open time.
00:07:08.180 I guess I just poked myself with a pickle fork during those three hours.
00:07:11.680 Well, it would have been less damaging than watching the show, but.
00:07:16.460 Sure would.
00:07:16.980 Yeah.
00:07:17.320 Did you hear, may I bring this up again?
00:07:19.780 I brought it up at the top of the hour because I think this is the most important story of the
00:07:22.920 day that if cats were people, they'd be psychopaths.
00:07:27.760 This according to scientists.
00:07:30.440 And that's news to people.
00:07:32.680 Right.
00:07:33.180 We all knew that.
00:07:33.780 That's what I said.
00:07:34.560 Yeah.
00:07:34.720 They don't need you.
00:07:35.860 No, they don't need you.
00:07:36.860 They don't care about you.
00:07:37.760 No, they don't need you.
00:07:38.840 No, that's the definition that if cats were CEOs, can you imagine how bad things could
00:07:44.460 be?
00:07:45.320 Because they just fire everybody.
00:07:47.000 They don't care.
00:07:48.040 No, they'd while you were doing your, you know, while you were making the company money,
00:07:52.080 they'd, they'd make a figure eight between your legs and they'd love to rub their head
00:07:55.920 against your leg.
00:07:56.800 And then the next thing, you know, fire them.
00:07:59.240 I don't care.
00:07:59.880 I don't care about them.
00:08:02.420 That's a cat CEO.
00:08:04.480 Yeah.
00:08:04.840 Yeah.
00:08:05.300 It does seem like the science backs this up.
00:08:08.120 Has Fauci talked about this yet?
00:08:09.340 Is it okay to believe it?
00:08:10.520 No, it's, I don't know.
00:08:11.880 I don't know.
00:08:12.840 But you know, um, that's the reason why you don't like cats.
00:08:17.560 Okay.
00:08:18.240 That's, that says something about you.
00:08:19.980 If you're friends with a psychopath, right?
00:08:23.700 If you're friends with Jeffrey Dahmer, what does that say about you?
00:08:27.020 Correct.
00:08:27.520 And you, people are like, he was friends with Jeffrey Dahmer.
00:08:30.800 If you like cats, really, what does this say about you?
00:08:35.460 People should know this is a long-term stand of Glenn Beck where he believes science is proving
00:08:42.200 me out and cats, the cats are psychopaths.
00:08:44.560 And I guess you can't really disagree with it now because then you're speaking out against
00:08:48.160 science, science.
00:08:49.680 It's, it's illegal to do that.
00:08:50.980 I'm pretty sure.
00:08:52.120 Fact check.
00:08:52.880 Oh, wait a minute.
00:08:53.420 Hang on.
00:08:53.660 Just a wrong one.
00:08:54.900 Fact check.
00:08:57.140 That worked well.
00:08:57.940 Yeah.
00:08:58.100 Thank you.
00:08:58.540 Thank you very much.
00:08:59.260 Hall of Fame broadcaster.
00:09:00.280 Yes.
00:09:00.480 Well, that's me.
00:09:01.380 That's me.
00:09:02.040 So, you know, my dog, you know, the problem is cats don't, I don't know if they don't
00:09:07.000 remember you or they just don't care.
00:09:08.880 I think they remember you.
00:09:10.140 They just don't care.
00:09:12.180 You know, where my dog cares.
00:09:15.500 But I'm not sure he remembers me all the time or for very long, you know, your dog forgets
00:09:21.040 who you are.
00:09:21.600 No, I don't think he forgets who I am.
00:09:23.480 But I mean, let's say I'm dead.
00:09:25.160 Yeah.
00:09:25.680 Okay.
00:09:25.860 He cares.
00:09:26.620 And he'd be licking my face for a while and be like, come on, come on, wake up, wake up.
00:09:32.000 And then after a while, he'd eat me because he'd be hungry.
00:09:37.180 Right.
00:09:37.620 And he'd be like, oh, I remember all the good times we had, but I'm hungry and he'd eat
00:09:41.820 me.
00:09:42.780 You know what I mean?
00:09:43.780 Yeah.
00:09:44.100 Yeah.
00:09:44.260 So I'm, I, I'm thinking that maybe he forgets who I am at some point that would make him
00:09:50.860 eat me.
00:09:51.780 I think he'd just be hungry and eat you.
00:09:53.720 We're a cat.
00:09:54.620 Knowing that he's eating you.
00:09:55.860 Where a cat would be looking at you from the kitchen and you sneeze and the cat is
00:10:01.640 like sharpening the knives.
00:10:03.540 Yeah.
00:10:04.000 You know what I mean?
00:10:04.400 Oh yeah.
00:10:04.760 Yeah.
00:10:05.100 They're like, I'm ready to carve you up.
00:10:06.440 I know who you are.
00:10:07.720 I've never really liked you.
00:10:09.200 I certainly don't care, but you look like food to me.
00:10:13.220 Yeah.
00:10:13.740 So the cat's not going to wait for you to die.
00:10:15.500 The cat will kill you and then eat you.
00:10:17.960 I'm just saying.
00:10:18.920 So dogs are better.
00:10:19.580 Don't mess.
00:10:20.100 Don't mess with science.
00:10:22.200 One last thing.
00:10:22.960 Yeah.
00:10:23.180 No dog has ever killed a person.
00:10:24.640 That's never happened.
00:10:26.180 Cujo's a movie, man.
00:10:27.380 Okay.
00:10:27.700 It's a movie.
00:10:28.740 Okay.
00:10:29.360 So the Chinese have discovered something on the moon.
00:10:36.240 Yeah.
00:10:36.720 Oh, I saw that.
00:10:37.520 That's it's so far.
00:10:39.680 You know what?
00:10:40.120 It's going to turn out to be a rock.
00:10:42.180 It's a big rock.
00:10:43.660 It's a big.
00:10:44.060 You're convinced of this?
00:10:45.520 Yes.
00:10:46.840 Scientifically, you're convinced?
00:10:48.420 They're calling it a hut?
00:10:49.640 They're calling it a mystery hut.
00:10:51.220 A mystery hut.
00:10:51.980 A mystery hut.
00:10:53.120 What's it going to be?
00:10:54.380 Yeah.
00:10:54.880 Well, they say it's a cube and it's a mystery hut.
00:10:58.660 And they're going to be they're going to be they're going to spend the next two or three
00:11:03.740 lunar days investigating this mysterious feature on the moon, which is actually two to three
00:11:09.820 months.
00:11:10.400 Right now.
00:11:11.120 Researchers expect that it is weirdly shaped.
00:11:13.900 Um, but it's they are expecting that it's just a big rock, that it is just a big rock, but
00:11:21.980 let's not go there.
00:11:23.360 What could be in the mystery hut?
00:11:29.300 Jimmy Hoffa.
00:11:31.800 Is that where very possible?
00:11:33.860 Maybe he was buried on the moon.
00:11:35.660 What year did he die?
00:11:37.000 Wasn't it 74 or something?
00:11:38.760 We'd been to the moon.
00:11:40.100 We have been to the moon.
00:11:41.620 Oh, my gosh.
00:11:42.280 I never thought of it.
00:11:42.940 It's a crypt.
00:11:44.440 It's a crypt.
00:11:45.240 If they don't even have to go in, if they walk up to it and it's a big, you know, block
00:11:49.640 and it says James Hoffa on the front, you'd be like, it's a crypt.
00:11:54.760 Wait, so that would be a cool surprise, wouldn't it?
00:11:56.720 That would be a cool surprise.
00:11:58.140 I'd like that.
00:11:58.760 The theory is that they transported the body of Jimmy Hoffa up to the moon and then put
00:12:05.520 him in a crypt rather than just like releasing him in orbit toward like the atmosphere.
00:12:11.240 Yes.
00:12:11.520 They went through all the trouble to actually build him a burial.
00:12:14.660 Somebody with a telescope could see him.
00:12:16.680 Yeah.
00:12:17.000 And you didn't want that.
00:12:17.900 But you'd burn up in the atmosphere and you'd have no trace.
00:12:21.780 Here's the thing.
00:12:22.440 What you don't know is this was this a concrete structure.
00:12:25.480 And you know how, you know, you put your hands, handprints in it after you've made like a
00:12:30.400 sidewalk or something.
00:12:31.220 Sure.
00:12:31.860 Cat prints all over the bottom of this moon hut.
00:12:37.100 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:12:42.900 And we really want to thank you for listening.
00:12:44.860 You know, what's white and red and wrap white and black and wrapped in red ready for Christmas.
00:12:58.700 What's that?
00:12:59.500 The great reset Christmas book.
00:13:01.740 It's really perfect.
00:13:03.220 It's perfect.
00:13:04.200 This holiday season.
00:13:05.920 Why would black and white be a holiday mess?
00:13:09.000 Because Santa, black soot, white hair.
00:13:15.740 OK, yeah, yeah, I agree.
00:13:17.960 And red, the wrapping of it says a great reset right on the front.
00:13:21.240 Perfect gift for the holidays.
00:13:23.160 The great reset.
00:13:25.180 Yeah.
00:13:25.880 Yes, it's about Joe Biden and 21st century fascism.
00:13:29.440 But let's not concentrate on that part.
00:13:32.100 It's good for Christmas.
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00:13:40.020 It comes out in January, but be the first to have it.
00:13:44.420 And you can tell your your loved one.
00:13:47.040 Hey, Merry Christmas in that box.
00:13:48.800 It might be empty, but there's a note coming soon.
00:13:52.380 Glenn Beck's new book, the great reset.
00:13:54.900 So basically a scam if you forget to order something.
00:13:58.420 Yes.
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00:13:59.120 OK, perfect.
00:13:59.940 Definitely do that.
00:14:01.380 So I can see you're kind of good holiday news.
00:14:03.780 Oh, really?
00:14:04.300 The great reset.
00:14:05.060 Yeah.
00:14:05.380 I can see how it ties in.
00:14:06.940 There's some good stories out there.
00:14:08.640 There are some good stories.
00:14:09.720 I'm in the holiday mood.
00:14:11.060 Yeah.
00:14:11.680 For example, it's always good when people can learn things.
00:14:15.220 Learn new things.
00:14:15.960 Right.
00:14:17.220 And be safer around the holidays.
00:14:19.420 I have a feeling you're being sarcastic, but I'm willing to go down this road.
00:14:23.080 This is why we have clip two.
00:14:24.360 This is the Washington, D.C. media helping out their viewers for the holidays.
00:14:31.240 Could we play this, please?
00:14:32.380 Oh, she's frozen.
00:14:36.560 A frozen, just like frozen hot chocolate available now at Macy's.
00:14:41.620 Here it is.
00:14:42.580 Three men shot and wound, or I should say three men shot and wounded a man and carjacked another
00:14:49.100 person at gunpoint in the middle of the night in order to prevent a carjacking.
00:14:54.160 Well, here's what we should be doing.
00:14:55.380 Stop.
00:14:55.520 Stop.
00:14:55.700 This is not festive.
00:14:56.820 It's not festive.
00:14:57.740 I thought it.
00:14:58.420 Play the Christmas bed we just came back and then.
00:15:02.960 Can you play that, Sarah?
00:15:05.860 All right.
00:15:06.520 Now play.
00:15:07.220 Three men shot and wound, or I should say three men shot and wounded a man and carjacked another
00:15:15.200 person at gunpoint in the middle of the night in order to prevent a carjacking.
00:15:20.180 Well, here's what we should be doing.
00:15:21.720 Police say lock the doors when driving and when pumping gas.
00:15:25.480 In fact, stay in your car if you can at the gas station.
00:15:29.580 And always look around before getting out of your vehicle, and if you are the victim
00:15:34.800 of a carjacking, give up that car.
00:15:37.260 Your life is just not worth it.
00:15:39.280 Equip your vehicle with an anti-theft or GPS tracking device and allow yourself room and
00:15:44.620 traffic to move around other cars.
00:15:47.160 Avoid getting boxed in, if you will, and keep your cell phone in your pocket.
00:15:50.980 This is America?
00:15:52.220 That's all you need to do.
00:15:53.620 That's it.
00:15:54.380 Just those things.
00:15:55.420 Just those, that list of 47 things.
00:15:57.760 Yeah, just that.
00:15:58.740 And you could not be stabbed or shot to death.
00:16:03.060 And isn't it good if you're not stabbed or shot to death?
00:16:05.200 It is the holiday spirit.
00:16:07.160 It's what Jesus would have wanted.
00:16:09.000 Little baby Jesus didn't come up in the manger, so you could be shot and shivved.
00:16:14.040 Right.
00:16:15.420 Right.
00:16:16.060 That's the holiday season at work.
00:16:18.400 Or how about in California?
00:16:19.840 Clip one, where, you know, if you happen to be-
00:16:22.280 Be ready with the Christmas music just in case we need it.
00:16:25.300 Go ahead.
00:16:25.960 If you happen to be someone who sells drugs, you might have a difficult, a difficult life
00:16:32.980 on the streets selling drugs to people and it may be dangerous.
00:16:36.480 Okay.
00:16:36.940 Well, that's changing now.
00:16:38.360 Listen.
00:16:38.560 A former convict says he felt safer during his life of crime after his Oakland cannabis
00:16:44.380 dispensary was ransacked last month.
00:16:46.720 Listen to this.
00:16:48.140 I was safer selling weed on the streets of Oakland than I am selling it legally.
00:16:51.520 And that's a problem.
00:16:52.700 That's crazy to even say, but that's just the reality I'm living in right now.
00:16:56.780 I mean, it may be a problem for him.
00:17:00.180 Merry Christmas.
00:17:01.360 This is, again, remember, the holidays, you're not supposed to think of yourself.
00:17:05.580 This may be a problem for him, but it's better for the weed dealers on the streets.
00:17:10.280 Wow.
00:17:10.740 That is-
00:17:11.380 See?
00:17:11.520 Safer on the streets.
00:17:13.100 How about this?
00:17:14.420 You like stories in the holiday season of real achievement.
00:17:19.000 Yeah.
00:17:19.140 People with incredible accomplishments.
00:17:22.880 Sure.
00:17:23.220 You love that type of story.
00:17:24.100 Start the music.
00:17:26.020 Leah Thomas.
00:17:27.900 Leah Thomas.
00:17:29.320 She's 22 years old.
00:17:31.320 She smashed two U.S. swimming records in Akron, Ohio.
00:17:35.660 Oh, you mean the dude that's now swimming for the women's team?
00:17:39.720 No.
00:17:40.240 I don't know what you're talking about.
00:17:41.480 She defeated Anna Sophia by 38 seconds.
00:17:45.380 38 seconds.
00:17:46.400 In a swimming meet.
00:17:47.880 Wow.
00:17:47.900 That's almost like-
00:17:48.940 It's almost like he has more muscle tone.
00:17:52.560 He keeps saying he by mistake, but it's a she, Leah Thomas.
00:17:55.920 Well, she is in she.
00:17:57.640 You know what I'm saying?
00:17:58.520 I'm just leaving off the first S for savings.
00:18:02.660 She won another race by 14 full seconds.
00:18:06.060 She competed in a women's swimming event and broke all the records.
00:18:11.960 And wow, what an accomplishment for the holidays for Leah Thomas.
00:18:15.320 That is really good.
00:18:16.700 That is-
00:18:17.700 Who looks 100% like a woman.
00:18:23.000 A beautiful woman?
00:18:24.120 I want to make sure that you know.
00:18:24.840 A beautiful woman?
00:18:25.800 She looks beautiful and could compete with Caitlyn Jenner for the woman most beautiful woman.
00:18:30.860 I want to send her to compete in the Olympics.
00:18:33.140 I mean, if we're going to go there, let's make use of this.
00:18:38.000 Okay?
00:18:38.600 Yeah.
00:18:39.000 Let's send all of our he's to the Olympics and see what the Chinese have to say about it.
00:18:49.460 I'm really upset about this whole-
00:18:51.580 We're going to do an ambassador boycott.
00:18:54.600 I'll tell you that right now.
00:18:55.820 Diplomatic boycott.
00:18:56.820 We're not going to have a cocktail party and no American weenies for the Chinese to munch on.
00:19:03.340 I'll tell you that right now.
00:19:04.380 None of our embassies.
00:19:06.400 No.
00:19:07.260 No, sir.
00:19:08.200 A diplomatic boycott.
00:19:09.780 Oh, that's got to hurt.
00:19:11.680 You're not torn on this at all.
00:19:12.860 Nope.
00:19:13.020 There's no part of you that's torn on this.
00:19:14.680 Nope.
00:19:15.040 I mean, you are an athlete.
00:19:17.580 You've prepared.
00:19:18.400 I am.
00:19:18.660 Thank you.
00:19:19.280 I'm saying, I'm giving you a hypothetical situation here.
00:19:21.820 You are not an athlete.
00:19:23.200 But the hypothetical situation, you are an athlete.
00:19:25.460 Uh-huh.
00:19:25.680 You've worked your entire life.
00:19:27.420 I have.
00:19:28.840 Basically, you know, 80 hours a week training-
00:19:31.580 Training.
00:19:32.100 For this event.
00:19:33.360 Yes.
00:19:34.200 And because of no fault of your own-
00:19:36.380 No fault of your own.
00:19:37.340 You are now told you're not allowed to go to the event.
00:19:40.060 I'm thinking, okay, I'm an athlete.
00:19:41.720 I've worked 80 hours a week.
00:19:43.580 Your entire life.
00:19:44.840 No, I don't need the music for this.
00:19:46.300 Okay.
00:19:46.820 I'm just thinking.
00:19:48.560 Now, I-
00:19:49.320 I'm just thinking.
00:19:49.920 I've worked my entire life.
00:19:51.780 And they say, hey, go compete in China.
00:19:55.280 To defeat China.
00:19:56.520 To defeat China.
00:19:57.120 Show them up.
00:19:57.640 Show them up.
00:19:57.660 China.
00:19:58.140 Beat them.
00:19:58.840 Put them on the-
00:19:59.760 Right.
00:20:00.020 Give them-
00:20:00.840 But without even saying anything about it.
00:20:03.820 Without even saying anything about what?
00:20:05.100 You know, not making a statement.
00:20:07.980 You know, if I knew we were sending a bunch of Americans over there that would stand up
00:20:12.560 and then, you know, make a fist for the Uyghurs, then I would be fine with it.
00:20:20.800 I'd be fine with it.
00:20:21.640 I mean, they might not come back if they do that, but maybe they will do that.
00:20:25.820 They would come back.
00:20:26.840 The United States would have a coronary.
00:20:29.540 Oh, yeah.
00:20:29.980 We're very tough and have a big backbone right now against China.
00:20:32.720 You're right.
00:20:32.980 Seriously.
00:20:33.620 Yeah, no.
00:20:34.040 Okay, no.
00:20:34.820 American citizens would have a coronary.
00:20:37.720 I mean, you know, it was one thing with Jesse Owens.
00:20:41.120 Jesse Owens didn't want to go.
00:20:43.340 I mean, he was going to Berlin and there was half the country said, don't go, don't go,
00:20:47.140 don't go.
00:20:47.940 But Jesse Owens was important to go.
00:20:50.880 It was really important for him to go.
00:20:53.120 Oh, sure.
00:20:53.560 Because he was going to stand up against the German and we knew there's a good chance he's
00:21:01.080 going to win.
00:21:01.800 That's a good thing.
00:21:03.220 A slap in Hitler's face.
00:21:05.780 This is not a slap in Xi's face.
00:21:09.840 This isn't a slap in us just going along as we always go along.
00:21:15.260 Maybe.
00:21:15.880 I mean, I think, first of all, if you can beat their asses, I mean, that's sending them
00:21:19.820 quite the message.
00:21:20.780 And I don't know.
00:21:21.360 I don't know enough about these games to know if we will or not, frankly.
00:21:24.540 I don't follow it all that closely.
00:21:27.080 But I like the idea of us beating them.
00:21:30.460 But beyond that, like, just as a, you know, it's your whole life's work is leading to this
00:21:37.680 one moment.
00:21:38.500 And then your country tells you, an individual, no, you're not allowed to travel.
00:21:44.060 I mean, that is not exactly the most American concept of freedom that I've ever heard.
00:21:48.560 I'm going to wrap them all in swaddling clothes.
00:21:51.360 That's what I'm going to do.
00:21:52.320 I'm going to take all of the athletes and I'm going to wrap them in swaddling clothes.
00:21:55.960 You don't care about this because you're not an athlete.
00:21:58.140 No, I don't know anything about athletic competition.
00:22:00.080 I can understand.
00:22:01.620 But we're talking about evil.
00:22:05.620 It's not like we're talking.
00:22:06.860 You know, it was the Soviet Union.
00:22:09.260 It was the Nazis.
00:22:12.920 And it's China.
00:22:13.940 They all fit in.
00:22:15.460 Would we have been proud if we would have been like, hey, they've built a new stadium
00:22:20.780 right next to the killing fields.
00:22:23.420 Let's all go.
00:22:24.860 Let's all go.
00:22:25.760 We wouldn't have done it.
00:22:26.900 You know, there are thousands and thousands of American businessmen in China right now
00:22:32.000 doing their jobs.
00:22:33.220 Right.
00:22:33.380 And I think we should reevaluate this and we can maybe start with the Olympics.
00:22:38.700 I mean, we should start with the things we don't have to do.
00:22:43.780 Start with the things we don't have to do.
00:22:45.240 You don't obviously have to do the Olympics, but we can show some symbolic victories against
00:22:50.780 them.
00:22:51.080 I mean, it is a propaganda situation.
00:22:53.120 And again, I think not sending your diplomats says something.
00:22:56.680 They're pissed off about it.
00:22:57.680 We know that.
00:22:58.460 China's pissed about this.
00:22:59.840 Now, it doesn't matter at all to me.
00:23:01.520 Honestly, if we didn't even have any more diplomats, we'd probably be better off.
00:23:05.040 But, you know, this is something that means something to China.
00:23:07.880 Here's what would have happened years ago if we would have done one in Russia, which we
00:23:13.980 didn't.
00:23:14.500 Well, we did in the end in 80.
00:23:17.940 We we we was at 84 was was here and the Soviets boycotted and we boycotted in 80.
00:23:24.520 Was it was it 1980?
00:23:25.980 I'm forgetting the years, but we boycotted them at one point.
00:23:28.980 We did.
00:23:29.400 Yeah.
00:23:29.580 So imagine back then, ABC, NBC, whoever would have had the Olympics, let's say it was, you
00:23:37.160 know, Dr. Pink Eye is covering the Olympics again.
00:23:41.720 What's his name?
00:23:42.240 Oh, Bob Costas.
00:23:43.100 Yeah.
00:23:44.100 Dr. Pink Eye?
00:23:45.360 How do I know what he means?
00:23:47.140 Yes, he had Pink Eye.
00:23:47.700 Because that's all anybody remembers from that year of Olympics.
00:23:50.300 Yes.
00:23:50.540 It's like, oh, my gosh, what is that?
00:23:52.520 Anyway, if he would have been broadcasting, if he would have gone over to the Soviet Union,
00:23:57.260 they would have been broadcasting, they would have had all kinds of stories about how awful
00:24:02.480 and oppressive that was and how much of the stuff we have to say is because we have monitors
00:24:09.800 with us and they'll threaten to pull us off at any time.
00:24:13.640 It would have all we all would have known that and they would have made a big deal before
00:24:18.020 and after.
00:24:19.580 OK, now NBC Universal, you think they're going to be ABC Disney?
00:24:26.760 You think they're going to say anything about how bad China is?
00:24:30.720 But they're all going there.
00:24:31.980 All the broadcasters are going to go there.
00:24:33.640 We're not going to stop them.
00:24:34.520 They're all going to cover the games.
00:24:35.680 We're not going to stop that.
00:24:36.700 And we're going to all the sponsorships are going to go through.
00:24:38.760 Yeah, but we can do that.
00:24:39.780 That's our choice.
00:24:40.580 Yeah.
00:24:40.940 But the country making that choice for these athletes and these athletes only.
00:24:45.420 I mean, again, I would say I'm torn on it, but I mean, it's a tough one because
00:24:50.500 I mean, these people have nothing to do with this.
00:24:53.940 They've worked their asses off with the promise that if you're good enough, you're going to
00:24:58.080 go to the Olympics.
00:24:58.620 And then a couple of weeks before, we're like, ah, yeah, I know all of your life's works
00:25:03.240 led to this moment.
00:25:04.100 But no, I mean, it's it's a tough place to put an individual American citizen who might
00:25:10.380 want to make a different choice.
00:25:11.380 We don't stop people from traveling.
00:25:12.900 They're going on vacation.
00:25:13.860 They don't need to go on vacation there when we don't stop that.
00:25:17.080 We let people go where they want to go.
00:25:19.000 And this is the one time we're going to change.
00:25:20.660 I don't know.
00:25:21.200 I do see what you're saying.
00:25:22.880 It would send a very strong message.
00:25:24.920 You're representing the United States of America.
00:25:27.280 Our relationship with China is different than our relationship with the Soviet Union.
00:25:31.180 And if you want to change that and.
00:25:33.440 Oh, I think we should.
00:25:34.420 Right.
00:25:34.700 We were on that path.
00:25:35.780 If you do that in advance, I can understand that stance.
00:25:39.680 But it's that's not our current state.
00:25:41.600 If it was in North Korea right now, we wouldn't be sending anybody.
00:25:43.680 Right.
00:25:44.080 Right.
00:25:44.420 You know, we wouldn't.
00:25:45.480 Now, I don't know why they wouldn't even they can't even build a hotel, let alone a stadium.
00:25:48.660 Yeah.
00:25:48.680 I mean, it would not be a good one.
00:25:50.600 You do.
00:25:51.680 Hey, our javelin ran out of javelins here.
00:25:54.760 Use this person that we've kept in a concentration camp as a javelin now.
00:25:58.720 Javelin target.
00:25:59.540 Yeah.
00:26:00.080 I mean, just bad.
00:26:01.340 Yeah.
00:26:01.620 No.
00:26:01.840 So I do understand what you're saying, but you have to have some sympathy for these
00:26:05.440 athletes.
00:26:06.520 I do have sympathy, but I have more sympathy for the people that are looking for someone to
00:26:12.820 give them some light at the end of the tunnel, that somebody recognizes them, that somebody
00:26:18.020 says enough.
00:26:20.020 Oh, well, LeBron James recognizes it.
00:26:22.040 I mean, just doesn't care.
00:26:23.320 OK.
00:26:25.240 All right.
00:26:25.740 Let me tell you about American financing.
00:26:27.240 We continue to face so many unknowns, so many market changes, so much inflation.
00:26:34.780 The best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:26:36.780 It all started with a misunderstanding, according to the Los Angeles Times.
00:26:45.460 A black theater student at Coastal Carolina University told a visiting drama teacher she
00:26:49.860 wanted to connect with non-white students.
00:26:52.880 So the teacher drew up a list of names on a whiteboard, then forgot to erase it when they
00:26:59.040 left the studio.
00:26:59.800 When several other students walked in, they saw this list, and they were left with a suspicion
00:27:04.880 that those on it had been singled out with racist intent.
00:27:10.380 A committee of professors investigated and promptly sent out a department-wide email clarifying
00:27:15.160 what had happened that September day.
00:27:17.180 Seeking to calm the students, the professors wrote that the explanation in no way undermines
00:27:21.540 the feelings that any of you feel about the incident, and that the faculty was deeply
00:27:26.660 sorry.
00:27:27.180 The visiting teacher also wrote an apology, no matter the good intention, I still want
00:27:31.620 you to know I'm an idiot, and I'm sorry.
00:27:34.160 Well, things might have ended there, but at a time when college campuses had become center
00:27:38.540 stage for the polarizing issues of race, identity, and what constitutes harm, the theater
00:27:42.720 department was primed for conflict.
00:27:45.820 Enter Steve Ernest.
00:27:48.480 Steve is with us now.
00:27:49.860 We've had him on before when this story first broke, what, two months ago?
00:27:53.640 Uh, yes.
00:27:56.480 It seems longer than that.
00:27:59.020 Yeah, I bet it does.
00:28:00.360 I bet it does.
00:28:01.720 This is an amazing story, especially written by the LA Times.
00:28:07.380 It shows that the person who really came out with you, or came out after you, one of the
00:28:13.500 students, was really, truly, seemingly, to me at least, out of control.
00:28:18.940 I'm not going to ask you to comment on that.
00:28:21.240 Um, what has happened since they took you off and said, we're not sure, we're going to
00:28:26.740 have to investigate this?
00:28:27.980 Well, uh, you know, again, I was, I was removed from teaching and, uh, you know, assigned to
00:28:34.300 other duties, which I, you know, received sometime around November the 2nd.
00:28:39.360 Um, but, um, I'm, I'm simply happy to be reinstated at this point.
00:28:44.200 And, uh, apparently we'll be teaching again next semester.
00:28:47.780 Um, I'm not sure what that world will be like, but I'm certainly, um, you know, I have a long
00:28:52.560 history, uh, at, of great work at Coastal Carolina University, and I'm, I'm intending
00:28:57.220 to continue that work, uh, at this point in my life.
00:29:01.000 So what is the, because I know that the administrators, some of them came out that you thought were
00:29:08.120 friends, came out against you, um, in, including the department chair who said the words in your
00:29:15.080 email were white supremacist language.
00:29:17.860 I think of people burning crosses and wearing white robes, and that's about as far away from
00:29:23.320 me as I can ever imagine.
00:29:25.300 Now he says he didn't, he says he don't, he doesn't remember saying these things.
00:29:30.520 Eric doesn't remember saying that you were a white supremacist, but do you?
00:29:34.800 It was, yeah, it was said at a meeting and I did not disclose the name of the person who
00:29:41.060 said it.
00:29:41.780 I didn't feel like I, I should disclose that name.
00:29:44.420 Um, but it was said at a meeting and, um, I think that the writer, because they couldn't,
00:29:51.860 um, you know, pin down exactly who said it, just, you know, made the chair responsible
00:29:56.840 for it.
00:29:57.480 Oh, okay.
00:29:58.020 So it, it wasn't Eric Hall?
00:30:01.000 No.
00:30:01.460 Okay.
00:30:01.820 All right.
00:30:02.120 Well, that's, that's fair.
00:30:03.080 Good, good to know.
00:30:03.860 Um, so, um, but when, when they said that you could, you could go back, that your behavior
00:30:10.440 was under review to determine whether your emails endangered the welfare of students or
00:30:15.400 violated the code of ethical conduct requiring employees to create a respectful environment,
00:30:20.080 nurture a climate of fairness and civility towards others, even in the face of disagreement.
00:30:24.520 Um, they said that your actions didn't warrant disciplinary and disciplinary action at this
00:30:31.980 time.
00:30:33.920 What is that?
00:30:34.880 What is, I mean, is that how it's left?
00:30:37.780 Is this still hanging over you?
00:30:40.340 Uh, you know, I, we'll see, you know, um, but my attorney who is a, uh, I don't know what's
00:30:47.340 going on there.
00:30:47.840 Um, my attorney, who is a big fan of yours, Ruth Smith in Asheville, North Carolina, asked
00:30:53.840 me to, uh, to, uh, to say, say hello to you.
00:30:56.960 And, uh, um, you know, she's keeping a watch on the whole situation.
00:31:01.840 And so we are, you know, we're, we're taking it day by day and we will just approach, um,
00:31:07.380 you know, next semester.
00:31:08.360 And, um, I'm, I'm considering, uh, you know, body cam and things like this just to, uh, just
00:31:14.900 to make sure.
00:31:15.620 How are you going to, the theater is.
00:31:17.840 All about trust and exploration.
00:31:21.900 Uh, I mean, I tell my daughter, she wants to go into acting and I'm, I'm praying on
00:31:27.800 my knees every day that something happens that doesn't let that happen.
00:31:32.140 But, uh, she, uh, you know, she comes home, she's in high school and girls are not just
00:31:38.680 mean.
00:31:39.100 They are vicious to one another and she comes home and she'll be crying about something.
00:31:44.760 I said, honey, you know, a, I'm sorry.
00:31:47.580 And, you know, we, we commiserate on, on what, what happened, but also say to her, you have
00:31:53.740 to get used to this because if you really do want to be in acting, people are going to
00:31:58.500 say the worst things about you all the time.
00:32:02.280 And you have to develop thick skin because not only are they going to say the worst things
00:32:07.280 about you, you're going to try out for things and you're going to start in for 20 seconds
00:32:11.440 and they're going to say, next, you can't be crushed.
00:32:14.340 You can't be crushed.
00:32:16.640 Isn't there a lesson for the students here?
00:32:21.000 You know, um, you know, it's funny that you would say that because just this morning, I
00:32:25.280 got a wonderful email from a major, uh, talent agent in Los Angeles who starts out by saying,
00:32:32.600 bravo, you, I'm a talent manager and that the students are going to be faced with rejection
00:32:38.860 their whole lives.
00:32:39.860 Please stay your course.
00:32:41.500 They will learn far from you more from you that way than they even realized.
00:32:45.540 Um, so I mean, it, it really is, it really is that way.
00:32:50.120 Um, I, in, in my opinion, it's a very, very difficult world and you really do have to have
00:32:54.720 a very, very thick skin to even have a chance of surviving.
00:32:58.580 Right.
00:32:58.780 And it seems as though, I mean, you know, I read one of the things you said to one of these
00:33:03.600 girls is there, um, Hey, Shakespeare in the park.
00:33:06.200 And they're looking to cast people like you.
00:33:07.860 And it's unclear whether it was her voice, her talent or her color.
00:33:13.140 But I will tell you that my daughter was told by an agent, people like you are going to have
00:33:19.760 a very hard time finding a job right now.
00:33:22.340 And I said, what do you mean people like you?
00:33:24.140 And she said, white people.
00:33:25.420 And we were like, okay.
00:33:26.820 And we moved on with our lives.
00:33:28.300 We moved on with our lives.
00:33:29.740 I mean, it is, it reverse discrimination is happening right now.
00:33:33.820 Discrimination or whatever happens because fat people, skinny people, white people, black
00:33:39.360 people, it shouldn't be that way, but it is.
00:33:43.700 Well, you know, I, again, I've worked in professional theater for 30 years and colorblind
00:33:47.960 casting was something that was happening 20 years ago.
00:33:51.160 It didn't matter.
00:33:51.780 You know what, if you, if you were working in Shakespeare, it didn't matter what, what
00:33:55.480 color you were or, or what your ethnic heritage or anything was, it had to do with, with your
00:34:01.080 voice and your ability.
00:34:02.760 Um, and, uh, so I think we've been past this for years and for some reason now it, it's
00:34:10.000 come back to haunt us.
00:34:11.180 I mean, uh, again, this, this idea of, of racism and casting, um, this is a, I think
00:34:18.940 just look at the TV these days.
00:34:20.960 It's, it's such a great time for people of color to be working in the theater.
00:34:25.500 I mean, and we all celebrate that.
00:34:28.180 I mean, it's great.
00:34:29.360 Yeah.
00:34:29.640 Um, so, and it's a, it's a great time for all people in, in any kind of entertainment
00:34:35.800 because the access is everywhere.
00:34:38.420 If you don't get access at theater, you get access someplace else.
00:34:41.460 I mean, you can do anything now with the internet, uh, and, and find your own way.
00:34:47.220 And it's a remarkably free world that seemingly just wants to keep putting itself back into
00:34:52.660 a bottle of, of, uh, of oppression, uh, everywhere.
00:34:58.080 But if you understand it, be free, just do it.
00:35:02.760 Yeah.
00:35:03.280 And we still can't wrap our minds around what level of, you know, pandemic of,
00:35:08.140 break down this, this might've represented, you know, people just, uh, cause you know,
00:35:13.140 a lot of these people are facing, um, a world where who knows what the direction of a theater
00:35:18.720 will be and in film and what, well, I mean, what will be the access to work be and casting
00:35:24.960 in the uncertain times.
00:35:27.340 That's the same thing that I go through that same thing that you're going through.
00:35:31.220 And not just because of this incident, but because things are changing.
00:35:36.020 I don't know if the campus is going to be like the campuses now in 10 years, change is
00:35:41.740 part of life.
00:35:43.320 And if we expect our universities to be a bubble and protect them, I mean, the one thing it
00:35:49.960 should be taught right now is the only thing consistent will be constant change.
00:35:56.620 And it's, it's hard, but if your school isn't preparing you for that, they're not preparing
00:36:03.160 you for life.
00:36:06.560 Am I wrong?
00:36:07.640 Right.
00:36:08.260 No, you're a hundred percent right.
00:36:09.640 And this is, you know, this situation is not unique to coastal Carolina.
00:36:13.700 It's a, it's happening at universities.
00:36:15.920 Uh, my attorney said, we're seeing as many as six of these a day.
00:36:20.380 Sometimes, you know, these types of things, um, Steve, I, uh, I, I, I'm, I'm sorry to hear
00:36:27.800 that you feel like you, you might have to wear a, uh, a body cam.
00:36:32.800 Uh, what a sad, sad statement that is.
00:36:35.460 I, I would encourage you to have videotape on everything anyway.
00:36:39.580 Um, but, uh, it's sad that you have to be there and I'm, I'm glad you went back and
00:36:43.740 I, and I hope that everybody gets along and you can go back to some sort of normalcy.
00:36:49.660 Uh, and do what you do best.
00:36:52.540 Yeah.
00:36:53.040 Well, the great thing is at universities, people graduate.
00:36:56.360 So, and we move on.
00:36:57.780 Yeah.
00:36:58.260 Yeah, that's good.
00:36:59.400 All right, Steve, thank you so much.
00:37:01.080 Uh, he's a theater professor at coastal Carolina university reinstated now over, uh, racism
00:37:07.000 charges, uh, in a ridiculous, ridiculous story.