Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg announces he's running for President in 2020. Pat and Stu discuss why this is an exciting development. They also discuss why Colin Kaepernick is not in the NFL and why it might be because he sucks. We also go into the bizarre story over the weekend of the Navy Secretary stepping down in a battle with Trump.
00:00:00.000Welcome to the podcast. It is Pat and Stu. And for Glenn, this week, today, we talked a little bit about Michael Bloomberg getting into the race.
00:00:08.260Very exciting possibility. Yeah, very exciting. I know I'm considering voting for anyone else. Right. And I think everybody is. And everyone is. Everyone's on the same page. Even Michael Bloomberg.
00:00:17.820He's got $50 billion to spend, though, so it should be kind of interesting to see how this plays out. We also go into the bizarre story over the weekend of the Navy secretary stepping down in a battle with Trump.
00:00:31.820The media is just absolutely convinced this is terrible for Donald Trump. Shockingly enough, it's not. We go into the details on that.
00:00:38.780We have Steven Crowder on from Louder with Crowder, of course, also Blaze TV. He's got a special on Jeffrey Epstein that airs tonight.
00:00:46.760And you can use the promo code Epstein if you want to join and watch that or watch it on YouTube. You can save 20 bucks with the promo code, though, so I might as well give that a shot.
00:00:55.260We also explain the travesty of Colin Kaepernick not being in the league. Why is he not in the NFL?
00:02:16.060But the grief that we all feel because Wayne Messam is not in the race any longer is mitigated somewhat by the announcement of Michael Bloomberg over the weekend.
00:02:28.320So great that Michael Bloomberg is going to run for president.
00:02:31.680I mean, here's just a few of the things that he's going to be bringing to the table.
00:02:37.180Mike Bloomberg started as a middle class kid who had to work his way through college.
00:02:50.480But when New York suffered the terrible tragedy of 9-11, he took charge, becoming a three-term mayor who brought a city back from the ashes and brought back jobs and hope with it.
00:03:01.920Creating tens of thousands of affordable housing units so families could have a decent place to live.
00:03:07.440Raising teachers' salaries and kids' graduation rates.
00:03:10.720And creating a more open and livable city for the millions who call it home.
00:03:16.100But when he witnessed the terrible toll of gun violence, he put his money where his heart is.
00:03:21.000Helping to create a movement to take on the NRA and the politicians they own to protect families across this country and help turn the tide.
00:03:28.960And he's funded college educations for thousands of deserving low-income and middle-class kids.
00:07:32.040I mean, he was still getting a lot of donations and got tons of help money-wise from the RNC and all these other sources.
00:07:38.500There was one attempt back in, I think it was 1980, where the Libertarian candidate, they put one of the Koch brothers was the vice presidential candidate.
00:07:50.380So they could spend whatever they wanted, and it was a Koch brother at the number two slot.
00:07:55.920I mean, they had, I think, their highest vote total of the entire party's history, with the exception of, you know, 2016, was the one that beat it with Gary Johnson.
00:08:06.680But still, like, it's an interesting thought, in that all of these problems that you have as a candidate, when you go out and you're trying to go raise money, and you're trying to, you know, kiss butt to everybody.
00:08:17.940I mean, they're saying Bloomberg's not even going to be out doing speeches.
00:08:22.100He's, like, running a campaign, like a fantasy team.
00:08:25.780You know, he's just, he's not going out, he's not training, he's not running sprints, he's not learning plays.
00:08:32.020He's, he's just the fantasy team GM, and he's kind of running ads, and he can spend them in, you know, it's a well-done ad, if you, if any of that stuff appeals to you.
00:08:40.960I don't know that any of it does appeal to the Democratic Party today.
00:08:46.100Taking a match to the U.S. Constitution doesn't appeal to you?
00:08:49.500Like, just burn up the U.S. Constitution.
00:08:51.520Well, that should appeal, though, to the Democratic Party.
00:09:20.120And, uh, did you happen to see, I mean, there's no, there's no venue we can enjoy without getting some sort of political nonsense smacked in our face.
00:09:35.120Whether it's the NFL and the kneeling thing and the Colin Kaepernick thing, even into college football now at the Harvard-Yale game over the weekend, this is one of the big, big rivalries.
00:09:44.620It's the, I think it's the oldest continual rivalry, at least one of them.
00:13:14.800Louder with Crowder with Stephen Crowder.
00:13:16.200Now, Stephen joins us now, and I'm interested in the decision-making process that led here, which is, here we are, Stephen, going into a weekend.
00:13:26.640You're going to be around your family, Thanksgiving table, everyone getting together, warm thoughts and memories.
00:13:32.660And you've picked today for a special entitled, Epstein Didn't Kill Himself.
00:13:52.180No, today is, for people who don't know, it's actually really more on par with sort of an Evel Knievel, Robbie Knievel stunt, complete with Patriot attire and a jumpsuit.
00:14:03.760I will be, we have created an exact-to-scale replica of Jeffrey Epstein's cell.
00:14:09.040So this will be tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern.
00:14:10.600People can watch on The Blaze or YouTube.com slash Stephen Crowder.
00:14:13.680And we have Newton scales, both at the point of compression around the neck and on the actual hanging device itself.
00:14:19.780And I am going to attempt to kill myself the way Jeffrey Epstein did.
00:14:24.440Now, that being said, I will have a neck brace.
00:14:26.600But I am so confident that some of the numbers we have been given by the media, for example, the hyoid bone, they say, well, it's easy.
00:14:32.740It would only take 30 minutes, 30 newtons, sorry, to break it.
00:14:36.020I will do that with no neck protection.
00:14:37.840You will watch me live on air attempt to break my hyoid with the amount of force they've recommended and then as well as trying to get to the 1,200 pounds of force number,
00:14:47.320which is what they use to administer death by hanging.
00:14:50.080Which still only results in 1 in 20 examples of the kind of fractures we saw with Epstein.
00:14:55.420So a lot of research has gone into this.
00:15:24.700Because, you know, the last thing I want is to be conducting a scientific experiment, and Rodham comes back and hits me in the back of the head with a mallet like Gallagher.
00:15:32.420So we're going to make sure that it's a controlled experiment.
00:16:09.300And I did a lot of training, a lot of neck-specific training, and a diet of nothing but oyster crackers and mushrooms.
00:16:15.140So I've been taking this diligently – you know, I've been treating it diligently for the last few months.
00:16:19.700This is to show the audience that, listen, maybe it's possible, maybe it's not.
00:16:24.120But anyone who's been skeptical has been labeled a conspiracy theorist.
00:16:28.700We're the borderline not allowed on YouTube.
00:16:31.140I am so confident that the story we have been given is false that I will be performing half of these stunts without any protection.
00:16:37.880Then I will put on protection when I get to what the actual numbers are required, you know, to actually hang yourself.
00:16:43.600Listen, no one is saying that Jeffrey Epstein couldn't have strangled himself.
00:16:47.160What we are saying is this idea that he fractured three bones.
00:16:50.680We have calculated the force that is required in the exact cell because keep in mind, he nailed himself to breaking three bones in his neck, right?
00:16:59.700The reports – he didn't jump from the top of the bed.
00:17:02.460And also, when it's an 8x8 cell, keep in mind, too, that the torque on that cord, right, there's sheer force and torque depending on the angle.
00:17:09.200It's not like he could drop down that far because if his feet were completely up against the bed and he's pushing against the bed, he still can't go beyond the gap of about four and a half, five feet between the bed and the bars, which would support his weight because his face would go straight to the bars.
00:17:23.360So the more that we've been building this out and conducting some pre-experiments, I don't want to say that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself, but I'm more convinced than ever that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
00:17:33.140It's really interesting because I think we're in the same place on this, Stephen, in that I keep looking at this story and thinking – when I think logically, common sense-wise, over and over again, I keep coming back to the fact that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
00:17:49.540But on the other hand, it's like, well, there's not really evidence like the – of – there's nothing concrete.
00:17:57.580Now, you may create some concrete evidence here tonight, but, I mean, like the medical examiner saying that this is possible.
00:18:06.780You know, like maybe the guards may not have been checking any night.
00:18:10.540They may just be completely lazy guards that realized they could sleep through that shift whenever they felt like it and nothing was going to happen.
00:18:15.160There are other competing explanations.
00:18:18.880I'm sorry, but, like, you're a logical guy and I'm a logical guy.
00:18:21.140The most notorious pedophile in the world with the most – you know, the most in-depth, intimate relationships with some of the most powerful people, I find it hard to believe that nobody was checking.
00:18:32.440And, by the way, we will also have a live timer with even Brendan, my youngest producer here.
00:18:37.260He will be forced to create the rope of bedsheets without any sharp utilities or even edges.
00:18:43.160So he will be locked in a room, and we will time how long it takes to tie a rope of bedsheets that could adequately hang someone.
00:19:19.360Medical examiners have said it's possible.
00:19:21.400But that's why we're trying to examine this in a real-world scenario.
00:19:24.120For example, the hyoid bone is something people focus on.
00:19:27.300Well, it couldn't be less relevant because the hyoid bone is the easiest bone to break of the three fractures that Jeffrey Epstein sustained.
00:19:33.460So they say, well, the hyoid only takes 30 pounds of force – or, sorry, 30 newtons.
00:19:37.580Well, that's in a vice grip where they take someone's hyoid bone, someone who's dead.
00:19:44.140I was able to host the show with the amount of force they claim would crush the hyoid bone.
00:19:48.800I actually did it, and I'll do that tonight to show that the arguments we've heard from medical examiners on the side of it's very easy to kill yourself, that's not true.
00:19:57.100Now, it doesn't mean that it's not possible, but if I will be live on air talking to you – and this is, again, at 8 p.m. Eastern, available on The Blaze and on YouTube – I will be talking to you throughout the entire experiment so you can hear the amount of force on my neck.
00:20:11.120You will leave, I believe, having a lot to think about, and hopefully I won't leave on a stretcher.
00:20:18.240But it is – you know, it's requiring a lot of training and a lot of forethought and a lot of, you know, a lot of tassels for my jumpsuit.
00:20:55.560It's the Epstein story because if you read what we've read in The New York Times and The Washington Post, right, they just kind of want to dismiss it.
00:21:12.120Yeah, that one's really, really weird as well.
00:21:14.560Well, another addition to this, which I find fascinating, Stephen, is this Amy Robach story, which happened with James O'Keefe, where they released this video.
00:21:26.620And, you know, she comes out and she says, we had this story for three years and all these networks, you know, or NBC sat on it.
00:21:32.440And then they fired this poor woman from CBS who didn't even do anything wrong.
00:21:38.420I mean, that whole story was so ridiculous, you know, the media has ignored it completely.
00:21:43.400Conservatives have picked up that part of the story.
00:21:45.440But one of the things I'm fascinated by is that Amy Robach, a decorated journalist in the mainstream who covered the story for multiple years, also says on this tape that she is 100% convinced that Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself.
00:22:12.940This feels, I think, to the American people, not like a crazy conspiracy theory, but like something that actually happened and is being hidden from us.
00:22:22.180Here are some things that are that are undeniable that are not conspiracy theories.
00:22:25.400Jeffrey Epstein ran a pedophile ring with some of the most powerful people in the world.
00:22:28.560He had an island dedicated to pedophilia.
00:22:30.820He had a ranch as well where he had, you know, giant people can look up these pictures of giant orgy showers and rooms with pillows and crucifixes and life-size crucifixes and no beds, by the way, just pillows and showers.
00:22:45.320He obviously was put on suicide watch at one point.
00:22:47.220For some reason, I remember from it, he hung himself by kneeling in a cell with a rope from bedsheet that he tied himself with no tools that no guards noticed.
00:22:56.400And he sustained the kind of injuries that only occur one in 20 from dead hang pull-ups, meaning when people are doing, you know, a Brooks and Shawshank, hanging themselves from the beam and kicking the stool out.
00:23:07.500That only results one in 20 of those kinds of things result in these three fractures.
00:23:13.080There is no conspiracy about that, and that's what we're going to be testing tonight.
00:23:16.860It doesn't mean that it's not possible, but this idea that it is the most plausible scenario, or that if someone says, you know what, I do think that's the most plausible scenario, considering that the Clintons have a higher kill count than a Klan in Call of Duty, that's what this is about.
00:23:35.080This is for the people who've all been dismissed.
00:23:37.140So you can visually watch what it is that you suspect, and you can watch it beyond any shadow of a doubt.
00:23:42.300Keep in mind, again, I am an untrained professional, so there always is the risk that I need to spontaneously combust, you know, or have to speak through one of those, you know, commercials for esophageal cancer where I'll be hosting a show like this after.
00:24:07.600Yeah, it's also interesting that you brought up that he didn't jump from the top bunk bed, which would have made sense if you're really trying to hang yourself, because that kind of force, you would understand.
00:24:18.800All right, yeah, that snapped his neck in three places.
00:24:21.880Much more likely than just kneeling down and doing it.
00:24:24.980You know, the thing is he couldn't, the reason that no one is reporting that he jumped off the top bunk, and when you look at the cell, you'll see why it would likely be impossible, because there would be no way to tie the rope so tight that you would generate tension without, you know, your body's natural defense mechanisms.
00:24:52.220They're arguing that three bones were broken.
00:24:54.540So we've been running some pre-tests, and I've completely slumped down to the ground.
00:24:58.100You know, we're not generating any force.
00:24:59.660That's not even close to what's needed to snap the neck.
00:25:01.600But people don't realize it takes only three seconds, approximately, to be choked unconscious, right?
00:25:08.420In those three seconds, that's your window to generate enough force to break your neck primarily because you would have to be creating leverage, pushing against the bed, snapping it,
00:25:17.340because once you go unconscious, there's no chance that you're going to create enough force to fracture those three bones.
00:25:21.900So we also need to see if we can generate enough force before the amount of time it would take to pass out.
00:25:27.600The fact that it's so easy to strangulate yourself actually is back to deck against the idea that Jeffrey Epstein fractured his neck
00:25:36.200because he would have had to be conscious to throw himself to create the kind of force toward Newton's necessary to kill himself.
00:25:43.800And that's why the more we've been building the set out, you know, what you're talking about here, we sit down and say,
00:28:37.380I said, if you're a believing Christian, you understand God's plan for the people who rule and judge over us on this planet in our government.
00:28:51.420So it's nuanced, you know, like you said, Stu.
00:28:56.100It's tough to find the difference there between campaign 2016 and today.
00:29:55.040I mean, it is there is there is this weird thing, I think, particularly with people talking about religion around these issues.
00:30:00.400It puts them in weird positions, I think, a lot, you know, like there is a there's a there's a big thing about how character was ultimately the most important thing when Bill Clinton was running.
00:30:13.680And obviously, the Republicans have sort of long abandoned that.
00:30:17.040And now Democrats claim that they care about character, which is just laughable.
00:30:24.200How you even with a straight face say these things.
00:30:27.260But really, both sides have sort of switched on that point.
00:30:30.240I mean, during the Clinton impeachment, I mean, yes, there was a lot of conversation about about the legal part of this, but always bigger than that was the idea that conservatives care about who you are as a man, who you are as a person.
00:31:05.100Well, you have not shrunk from talking politics.
00:31:10.960And a lot of people have what I consider a profoundly unbiblical notion that if you love Jesus, you're not supposed to talk politics or be political.
00:31:23.580I don't find that only wrong, but tremendously harmful.
00:31:28.160And so you've been a hero to many because you've been willing to speak about politics.
00:31:34.280And so what do you think of what is happening now?
00:31:37.120I mean, it's a very bizarre situation to be living in a country where some people seem to exist to undermine the president of the United States.
00:31:50.220It's just a bizarre time for most Americans.
00:31:54.880Well, I believe it's almost a demonic power that is trying.
00:32:07.440And if you look at what the president has done just for our country, regardless of whether you're a Republican or Democrat, the unemployment is at the lowest in 70 years.
00:33:49.480And I think these people, they don't even have a biblical view when it comes to that, you know, that if somebody doesn't hold to our theology, that doesn't mean they can't be a great pilot or a great doctor or dentist.
00:34:03.620I mean, it's a bizarre situation that we're in, that people seem only to have these standards for the president somehow.
00:34:11.780You know, I believe that Donald Trump believes.
00:35:38.100I mean, like, you know, there are things to be – there's some stuff that Trump has done that I haven't liked, like the emergency declaration and such, that I think would have definitely been opposed during the Obama administration and now aren't.
00:35:49.720And, like, look, you look at the entire picture, you still have to pick somebody off your list, right?
00:35:56.600When you're voting for someone, you still have to select one of the candidates that's available.
00:36:00.740And I think there's a very, you know, very logical argument that says, look, we see what the positives of Trump are and what the negatives are.
00:36:07.660And we've selected him because he's better than the other people.
00:36:10.200And that's a totally rational way of sort of doing a cost-benefit analysis on the situation.