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00:00:00.000 Welcome to the podcast. It is Pat and Stu. And for Glenn, this week, today, we talked a little bit about Michael Bloomberg getting into the race.

00:00:08.260 Very exciting possibility. Yeah, very exciting. I know I'm considering voting for anyone else. Right. And I think everybody is. And everyone is. Everyone's on the same page. Even Michael Bloomberg.

00:00:17.820 He's got $50 billion to spend, though, so it should be kind of interesting to see how this plays out. We also go into the bizarre story over the weekend of the Navy secretary stepping down in a battle with Trump.

00:00:31.820 The media is just absolutely convinced this is terrible for Donald Trump. Shockingly enough, it's not. We go into the details on that.

00:00:38.780 We have Steven Crowder on from Louder with Crowder, of course, also Blaze TV. He's got a special on Jeffrey Epstein that airs tonight.

00:00:46.760 And you can use the promo code Epstein if you want to join and watch that or watch it on YouTube. You can save 20 bucks with the promo code, though, so I might as well give that a shot.

00:00:55.260 We also explain the travesty of Colin Kaepernick not being in the league. Why is he not in the NFL?

00:01:03.180 Yeah, I mean.

00:01:04.000 Well, it might be because he sucks.

00:01:06.180 That's a big part of it.

00:01:07.320 Yeah, that might be part of it.

00:01:08.780 So we'll get into all of that and more with myself and Pat from Pat Gray Unleashed on today's podcast.

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00:01:36.540 Some great news to share.

00:01:39.940 Yeah, last week, yes, we lost Wayne Messam.

00:01:43.500 There was an end to Messammentum.

00:01:46.360 Messammentum or Messamania?

00:01:47.820 Well, both.

00:01:48.900 Both?

00:01:49.300 Both are gone.

00:01:50.000 I mean, he did receive $5 in donations last quarter.

00:01:53.700 No denying that.

00:01:54.500 Five individual dollars, I believe, from one person.

00:01:57.600 But five individual dollars.

00:01:59.560 But five dollars.

00:02:01.100 That'll get you somewhere in a race. 0.64

00:02:04.360 Imagine if he would have unleashed that in this case.

00:02:06.500 I mean, my understanding is he didn't spend it.

00:02:09.280 But if he had unleashed that into this primary, the whole thing would have been upside down.

00:02:13.420 It goes into chaos at that point.

00:02:16.060 But the grief that we all feel because Wayne Messam is not in the race any longer is mitigated somewhat by the announcement of Michael Bloomberg over the weekend.

00:02:28.320 So great that Michael Bloomberg is going to run for president.

00:02:31.680 I mean, here's just a few of the things that he's going to be bringing to the table.

00:02:37.180 Mike Bloomberg started as a middle class kid who had to work his way through college.

00:02:41.580 He started as a kid.

00:02:42.340 Then built a business from a single room to a global entity, creating tens of thousands of good paying jobs along the way.

00:02:48.780 He could have stopped there.

00:02:50.040 Could have.

00:02:50.480 But when New York suffered the terrible tragedy of 9-11, he took charge, becoming a three-term mayor who brought a city back from the ashes and brought back jobs and hope with it.

00:03:01.920 Creating tens of thousands of affordable housing units so families could have a decent place to live.

00:03:07.440 Raising teachers' salaries and kids' graduation rates.

00:03:10.720 And creating a more open and livable city for the millions who call it home.

00:03:15.000 He could have stopped there.

00:03:16.100 But when he witnessed the terrible toll of gun violence, he put his money where his heart is.

00:03:21.000 Helping to create a movement to take on the NRA and the politicians they own to protect families across this country and help turn the tide.

00:03:28.960 And he's funded college educations for thousands of deserving low-income and middle-class kids.

00:03:34.240 Could he stop there?

00:03:35.000 I mean, he probably stopped so much.

00:03:37.300 He probably stopped there.

00:03:38.120 And the outright denial of this administration to protect the only home we have from the growing menace of climate change.

00:03:45.640 I'm guessing, did he stop?

00:03:46.420 Now he sees a different kind of menace coming from Washington.

00:03:49.240 So there's no stopping here.

00:03:50.900 No stopping.

00:03:51.460 Because there's a hysteria waiting to be rebuilt.

00:03:54.840 Everyone without health insurance is guaranteed to get it.

00:03:58.180 And everyone who likes theirs can go ahead and keep it.

00:04:01.020 Yeah, we've heard that before.

00:04:01.760 Where the wealthy will pay more in taxes.

00:04:03.580 Oh, good.

00:04:04.140 And the struggling middle class will get their fair share.

00:04:06.680 Let's get those rich people. 0.99

00:04:07.840 Jobs that just allow you to get by will become jobs that let you get ahead.

00:04:12.540 Wow.

00:04:12.900 Mike Bloomberg for president.

00:04:14.880 Jobs creator.

00:04:16.220 Leader.

00:04:17.100 Problem solver.

00:04:18.000 It's going to take all three to build back a country.

00:04:21.860 It sure is.

00:04:23.460 So Make America Great Again is now Rebuild America.

00:04:27.020 Which is essentially like the same slogan.

00:04:29.120 It's kind of the same thing, yeah.

00:04:29.460 Right?

00:04:29.680 The same slogan.

00:04:31.140 That's a fascinating.

00:04:32.280 This is a fascinating experiment.

00:04:34.140 And there's a million things to talk about on Mike Bloomberg.

00:04:37.060 Most of which are just topics on talk radio because he's not going to win the nomination.

00:04:42.540 But my favorite part of this is can we finally put to rest the idea that you can buy an election?

00:04:51.000 That if you have so much money, you can put all your money in there and you can buy an election.

00:04:55.620 He's going to attempt it here.

00:04:57.840 The man has $50 billion.

00:05:01.080 He is the ninth richest person on earth.

00:05:04.720 Yeah.

00:05:04.800 He is going to dump so much money into this campaign.

00:05:09.300 Starting with $30 million right now.

00:05:11.040 $30 million.

00:05:11.500 Right off the top.

00:05:12.260 They say it's the biggest spend in any week in any campaign in American history, including the general election.

00:05:18.920 Oh, wow.

00:05:19.900 Really?

00:05:20.480 Yeah.

00:05:21.340 Wow.

00:05:21.720 In a meaningless, nowhere week around Thanksgiving.

00:05:26.600 And there's no way.

00:05:27.500 I mean, the ego it must take to believe you can win this thing when everyone knows you don't have a shot.

00:05:35.320 There's no chance he wins.

00:05:37.100 His chances, it's got to be less than 1%.

00:05:39.840 There's no way people are clamoring for a Michael Bloomberg presidency.

00:05:45.080 I don't think most of the Bloomberg family is clamoring for that.

00:05:48.700 No, I don't think they are.

00:05:49.800 And he's going to try essentially a variation of the Giuliani approach, which is skip all the early states.

00:05:56.700 Is he still going to do that?

00:05:57.600 Because I read an article where he was all in now.

00:06:00.220 Oh, he is?

00:06:00.960 That's what I heard.

00:06:01.880 Because he's not even on the ballot in New Hampshire, as far as I know.

00:06:04.380 I don't think he is.

00:06:05.200 I know he made the Alabama ballot, and he can get on whatever ballot he wants.

00:06:09.580 Yeah.

00:06:09.740 But at least the reporting I heard this morning again confirmed that he was planning on skipping the first four states.

00:06:16.340 So he would come in on Super Tuesday.

00:06:18.600 Wow.

00:06:19.160 And that's why he's going to be able to spend so much money.

00:06:22.600 That's strategy, though, because it'll be over by then.

00:06:25.140 It certainly was for Giuliani.

00:06:27.340 Remember when he waited in Florida for everybody to catch up to him?

00:06:30.060 Yeah.

00:06:30.360 And they'd already passed him by.

00:06:31.940 Bye-bye.

00:06:33.300 It did not work.

00:06:34.480 It did not work.

00:06:35.220 I mean, you know, Rubio sort of did that in the last primary as well.

00:06:40.620 He tried to compete in certain early states, but he went all in on Florida.

00:06:45.700 And again, that didn't work.

00:06:47.520 It doesn't seem to be one of those things that works all that well.

00:06:50.180 But think about this, Pat.

00:06:52.160 Here's a guy who is $50 billion of wealth, and he says he might spend up to a billion dollars on this campaign.

00:07:01.380 A billion.

00:07:02.220 Wow.

00:07:02.660 And this is an experiment that's never been tried, really.

00:07:05.080 I mean, Ross Perot, obviously, is the most obvious example.

00:07:07.900 He comes in with his own money.

00:07:09.340 He has a lot to spend.

00:07:10.220 But he didn't spend anywhere close.

00:07:12.820 I mean, I think he might have spent $60 or $70 million the entire campaign.

00:07:17.380 And he was running for a general and had to get on ballots as an independent.

00:07:21.300 Trump ran last time, kind of talked about self-funding, but never.

00:07:24.620 I mean, he spent about $50 million of his own money on the campaign, which is a hell of a lot of money.

00:07:30.340 But that's not a self-funding thing.

00:07:32.040 I mean, he was still getting a lot of donations and got tons of help money-wise from the RNC and all these other sources.

00:07:38.500 There was one attempt back in, I think it was 1980, where the Libertarian candidate, they put one of the Koch brothers was the vice presidential candidate.

00:07:50.380 So they could spend whatever they wanted, and it was a Koch brother at the number two slot.

00:07:54.840 And, you know, it helped.

00:07:55.920 I mean, they had, I think, their highest vote total of the entire party's history, with the exception of, you know, 2016, was the one that beat it with Gary Johnson.

00:08:06.680 But still, like, it's an interesting thought, in that all of these problems that you have as a candidate, when you go out and you're trying to go raise money, and you're trying to, you know, kiss butt to everybody.

00:08:17.940 I mean, they're saying Bloomberg's not even going to be out doing speeches.

00:08:20.640 He's just running ads.

00:08:22.100 He's, like, running a campaign, like a fantasy team.

00:08:25.780 You know, he's just, he's not going out, he's not training, he's not running sprints, he's not learning plays.

00:08:32.020 He's, he's just the fantasy team GM, and he's kind of running ads, and he can spend them in, you know, it's a well-done ad, if you, if any of that stuff appeals to you.

00:08:40.960 I don't know that any of it does appeal to the Democratic Party today.

00:08:46.100 Taking a match to the U.S. Constitution doesn't appeal to you?

00:08:49.500 Like, just burn up the U.S. Constitution.

00:08:51.520 Well, that should appeal, though, to the Democratic Party.

00:08:53.880 He should just say he's doing that.

00:08:55.500 Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:09:19.100 It's Pat and Stu for Glenn.

00:09:20.120 And, uh, did you happen to see, I mean, there's no, there's no venue we can enjoy without getting some sort of political nonsense smacked in our face.

00:09:32.860 And I, I'm, I'm really tired of it.

00:09:35.120 Whether it's the NFL and the kneeling thing and the Colin Kaepernick thing, even into college football now at the Harvard-Yale game over the weekend, this is one of the big, big rivalries.

00:09:44.620 It's the, I think it's the oldest continual rivalry, at least one of them.

00:09:48.500 It's been going on for 136 years.

00:09:51.180 So, they're in the middle of this rivalry.

00:09:53.080 They're about to come out for halftime.

00:09:55.180 And on to the field, rush a whole bunch of protesters.

00:09:59.160 Here's a, uh, look at what happened if you're watching on Blaze TV.

00:10:05.460 Essentially, yeah, it's running into the center of the field.

00:10:08.460 And then they do a sit-in over climate change.

00:10:14.620 No, I don't know, hundreds, maybe a few thousand people ended up out there.

00:10:19.160 And they stayed on the field for an hour.

00:10:21.920 An hour!

00:10:23.140 And then finally, some of them, most of them walked off.

00:10:26.400 About 42 of them were left.

00:10:28.340 And police had to arrest them.

00:10:30.160 And, uh, I mean, you can't go to a Yale-Harvard game without it being interrupted.

00:10:34.940 And now Yale Bowl doesn't have any lights.

00:10:37.300 So they're playing in virtual darkness by the end of the game because it was delayed an hour by these idiots over climate change.

00:10:44.200 Take your thing elsewhere, would you please?

00:10:47.160 It sort of shows how dumb climate protesters are because no one cares if the Harvard-Yale game happens or not.

00:10:52.940 Okay, I got news for you.

00:10:53.980 You want to go to an Alabama game?

00:10:55.940 You go to an LSU game?

00:10:56.920 People are going to get really pissed about it.

00:10:58.560 Here, they're like, eh.

00:10:59.700 I mean, this is a good excuse to just go home.

00:11:01.900 We don't have to stay.

00:11:03.240 Right.

00:11:03.580 It's cold.

00:11:04.520 Yeah.

00:11:04.860 You know, let's just get out of here.

00:11:06.460 Right.

00:11:06.640 Because it's a nice tradition.

00:11:07.600 I used to live in Connecticut.

00:11:08.920 Obviously, so did you.

00:11:09.780 And, you know, the Yale Bowl is like, it's a very well-known thing.

00:11:13.960 And it's like the Harvard-Yale game is a big deal.

00:11:16.460 It used to be.

00:11:17.540 At one time, it was in a traditional sense.

00:11:19.720 In 1872, it was a really big game.

00:11:22.360 It was huge.

00:11:22.900 If they disrupted that game in 1872, I'd be pissed.

00:11:25.360 People would be pissed.

00:11:25.960 Yeah.

00:11:26.780 Because that's for the national championship, probably.

00:11:29.000 Probably.

00:11:29.380 Because there's only two colleges.

00:11:30.860 Okay.

00:11:31.240 Here.

00:11:32.160 Them and Rutgers.

00:11:33.140 Right.

00:11:33.280 There were about three.

00:11:33.920 Three.

00:11:34.740 Now, no one cares.

00:11:35.880 I mean, the Ivy League football thing is just not a big enough deal for anyone to care.

00:11:41.940 That's true.

00:11:42.360 That is a typical horrible move by climate protesters.

00:11:46.480 And it's like, climate protesters are strange.

00:11:48.780 It's somewhat unique in the way that they protest things and they try to stop people from enjoying life.

00:11:55.400 And do you think you're going to win people to your cause when you're doing that?

00:11:58.800 That's what I mean.

00:11:59.400 It's so weird.

00:12:00.760 Like, you know, they'll go and they'll like block a street so people can't get to work.

00:12:04.300 And you're like, oh, that's so irritating.

00:12:06.480 Or they'll be like, hey, you know, we need to ban big screen televisions.

00:12:09.600 You're like, big screen?

00:12:10.520 Of all the things?

00:12:12.300 Like, go yell at the coal plant with the smokestacks.

00:12:16.100 Like, people might be on your side there.

00:12:17.860 They also want to watch The Mandalorian on their big screen TV.

00:12:21.760 Right.

00:12:22.200 Don't target big screen TVs.

00:12:23.620 That's a terrible idea.

00:12:24.860 Dumb move.

00:12:25.520 Dumb move, right?

00:12:26.600 Mm-hmm.

00:12:27.300 Or they'll just block like, oh, I have to go pick up my daughter at school, but I can't because of climate protesters.

00:12:31.980 I mean, that is not a good way to go.

00:12:34.960 You're not winning friends and influencing people, no question.

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00:13:14.800 Louder with Crowder with Stephen Crowder.

00:13:16.200 Now, Stephen joins us now, and I'm interested in the decision-making process that led here, which is, here we are, Stephen, going into a weekend.

00:13:26.640 You're going to be around your family, Thanksgiving table, everyone getting together, warm thoughts and memories.

00:13:32.660 And you've picked today for a special entitled, Epstein Didn't Kill Himself.

00:13:40.360 It's the perfect time.

00:13:41.620 It's the perfect time of year for that.

00:13:43.640 Well, thank you for having me.

00:13:44.840 I mean, keep in mind that I did, three years ago, my very first Christmas special was live waterboarding.

00:13:50.400 Right.

00:13:51.000 Nice.

00:13:51.640 Okay.

00:13:51.940 All right.

00:13:52.180 No, today is, for people who don't know, it's actually really more on par with sort of an Evel Knievel, Robbie Knievel stunt, complete with Patriot attire and a jumpsuit.

00:14:03.760 I will be, we have created an exact-to-scale replica of Jeffrey Epstein's cell.

00:14:09.040 So this will be tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern.

00:14:10.600 People can watch on The Blaze or YouTube.com slash Stephen Crowder.

00:14:13.680 And we have Newton scales, both at the point of compression around the neck and on the actual hanging device itself.

00:14:19.780 And I am going to attempt to kill myself the way Jeffrey Epstein did.

00:14:24.440 Now, that being said, I will have a neck brace.

00:14:26.600 But I am so confident that some of the numbers we have been given by the media, for example, the hyoid bone, they say, well, it's easy.

00:14:32.740 It would only take 30 minutes, 30 newtons, sorry, to break it.

00:14:36.020 I will do that with no neck protection.

00:14:37.840 You will watch me live on air attempt to break my hyoid with the amount of force they've recommended and then as well as trying to get to the 1,200 pounds of force number,

00:14:47.320 which is what they use to administer death by hanging.

00:14:50.080 Which still only results in 1 in 20 examples of the kind of fractures we saw with Epstein.

00:14:55.420 So a lot of research has gone into this.

00:14:57.340 We've had an engineer on staff.

00:14:59.200 And, yeah, right before Thanksgiving, I'm going to try and hang myself in an accurate-to-scale replica cell of Jeffrey Epstein.

00:15:05.120 Now, unlike the actual incident with Epstein, will your cameras work?

00:15:13.600 Will we see this happen?

00:15:16.500 I appreciate your concern, and it's a legitimate question.

00:15:20.380 We do have several security guards on Clinton Watch as well.

00:15:24.140 Good.

00:15:24.700 Because, you know, the last thing I want is to be conducting a scientific experiment, and Rodham comes back and hits me in the back of the head with a mallet like Gallagher.

00:15:32.420 So we're going to make sure that it's a controlled experiment.

00:15:36.220 We have multiple cameras.

00:15:38.040 So hopefully nothing will glitch out.

00:15:40.080 But if it does, and, you know, I cease to be, I begin assuming room temperature, I do allow everyone permission to suspect foul play.

00:15:49.380 Wow.

00:15:49.980 So is there – now, how do you feel, Stephen, if something terrible does happen tonight?

00:15:54.500 How do you feel about us exploiting it for ratings?

00:15:57.640 I would be disappointed if you didn't, frankly.

00:16:00.400 I mean, come on.

00:16:01.800 I am hanging myself for – I mean, really, this is to show the viewer – this is – here's the thing.

00:16:07.460 I don't know.

00:16:08.400 I really don't know.

00:16:09.300 And I did a lot of training, a lot of neck-specific training, and a diet of nothing but oyster crackers and mushrooms.

00:16:15.140 So I've been taking this diligently – you know, I've been treating it diligently for the last few months.

00:16:19.700 This is to show the audience that, listen, maybe it's possible, maybe it's not.

00:16:24.120 But anyone who's been skeptical has been labeled a conspiracy theorist.

00:16:28.700 We're the borderline not allowed on YouTube.

00:16:31.140 I am so confident that the story we have been given is false that I will be performing half of these stunts without any protection.

00:16:37.880 Then I will put on protection when I get to what the actual numbers are required, you know, to actually hang yourself.

00:16:43.600 Listen, no one is saying that Jeffrey Epstein couldn't have strangled himself.

00:16:47.160 What we are saying is this idea that he fractured three bones.

00:16:50.680 We have calculated the force that is required in the exact cell because keep in mind, he nailed himself to breaking three bones in his neck, right?

00:16:59.340 Yeah.

00:16:59.700 The reports – he didn't jump from the top of the bed.

00:17:02.460 And also, when it's an 8x8 cell, keep in mind, too, that the torque on that cord, right, there's sheer force and torque depending on the angle.

00:17:09.200 It's not like he could drop down that far because if his feet were completely up against the bed and he's pushing against the bed, he still can't go beyond the gap of about four and a half, five feet between the bed and the bars, which would support his weight because his face would go straight to the bars.

00:17:23.360 So the more that we've been building this out and conducting some pre-experiments, I don't want to say that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself, but I'm more convinced than ever that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.

00:17:33.140 It's really interesting because I think we're in the same place on this, Stephen, in that I keep looking at this story and thinking – when I think logically, common sense-wise, over and over again, I keep coming back to the fact that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.

00:17:49.540 But on the other hand, it's like, well, there's not really evidence like the – of – there's nothing concrete.

00:17:57.580 Now, you may create some concrete evidence here tonight, but, I mean, like the medical examiner saying that this is possible.

00:18:03.380 This is what happened.

00:18:05.540 There are explanations.

00:18:06.780 You know, like maybe the guards may not have been checking any night.

00:18:10.540 They may just be completely lazy guards that realized they could sleep through that shift whenever they felt like it and nothing was going to happen.

00:18:15.160 There are other competing explanations.

00:18:18.380 I don't buy it.

00:18:18.880 I'm sorry, but, like, you're a logical guy and I'm a logical guy.

00:18:21.140 The most notorious pedophile in the world with the most – you know, the most in-depth, intimate relationships with some of the most powerful people, I find it hard to believe that nobody was checking.

00:18:32.440 And, by the way, we will also have a live timer with even Brendan, my youngest producer here.

00:18:37.260 He will be forced to create the rope of bedsheets without any sharp utilities or even edges.

00:18:43.160 So he will be locked in a room, and we will time how long it takes to tie a rope of bedsheets that could adequately hang someone.

00:18:49.720 Because keep in mind, he did that.

00:18:51.180 So it's not like the camera splits out for a few seconds.

00:18:53.720 My guess is it will take between 10 minutes to half an hour.

00:18:56.840 If it takes five minutes, unless the cameras were off the entire time, I mean, you're going to notice a guy.

00:19:02.040 He didn't even have a Swiss Army knife.

00:19:03.540 They basically nerfed his whole room, and he ties together a rope from bedsheets.

00:19:08.320 And keep in mind, the experiment that we're conducting, right, we conducted some pre-experiments here using cables.

00:19:13.160 So bungee cords, that's a much more direct force on the neck and the trachea and the hyoid.

00:19:18.260 And I understand what you're saying.

00:19:19.360 Medical examiners have said it's possible.

00:19:21.400 But that's why we're trying to examine this in a real-world scenario.

00:19:24.120 For example, the hyoid bone is something people focus on.

00:19:27.300 Well, it couldn't be less relevant because the hyoid bone is the easiest bone to break of the three fractures that Jeffrey Epstein sustained.

00:19:33.460 So they say, well, the hyoid only takes 30 pounds of force – or, sorry, 30 newtons.

00:19:37.580 Well, that's in a vice grip where they take someone's hyoid bone, someone who's dead.

00:19:41.760 They take it off a cadaver.

00:19:42.680 They crush it in a vice grip.

00:19:44.140 I was able to host the show with the amount of force they claim would crush the hyoid bone. 0.69

00:19:48.800 I actually did it, and I'll do that tonight to show that the arguments we've heard from medical examiners on the side of it's very easy to kill yourself, that's not true.

00:19:57.100 Now, it doesn't mean that it's not possible, but if I will be live on air talking to you – and this is, again, at 8 p.m. Eastern, available on The Blaze and on YouTube – I will be talking to you throughout the entire experiment so you can hear the amount of force on my neck.

00:20:11.120 You will leave, I believe, having a lot to think about, and hopefully I won't leave on a stretcher.

00:20:18.240 But it is – you know, it's requiring a lot of training and a lot of forethought and a lot of, you know, a lot of tassels for my jumpsuit.

00:20:27.780 We have fire extinguishers on hand.

00:20:30.160 I will be wearing proper safety gear for my head.

00:20:33.760 Is there a possibility you could burst into flame?

00:20:36.960 There is a possibility.

00:20:38.220 There is absolutely a possibility.

00:20:39.780 Okay.

00:20:40.360 Keep in mind, I am an untrained professional, so no one should be attempting this at home at all.

00:20:46.620 But we did have some engineers here really kind of crunch the numbers for us, and I'm amazed that nobody else has.

00:20:51.800 You know, there are a couple of stories to me that really don't add up.

00:20:55.080 It's this.

00:20:55.560 It's the Epstein story because if you read what we've read in The New York Times and The Washington Post, right, they just kind of want to dismiss it.

00:21:01.920 And that doesn't add up.

00:21:03.580 And then the other story is the Vegas shooter, just that no one knows anything.

00:21:07.660 Think about that for a second.

00:21:08.740 What have we heard?

00:21:09.580 Those two stories are the ones that stick in my craw.

00:21:11.880 Yeah.

00:21:12.120 Yeah, that one's really, really weird as well.

00:21:14.560 Well, another addition to this, which I find fascinating, Stephen, is this Amy Robach story, which happened with James O'Keefe, where they released this video.

00:21:26.620 And, you know, she comes out and she says, we had this story for three years and all these networks, you know, or NBC sat on it.

00:21:32.440 And then they fired this poor woman from CBS who didn't even do anything wrong. 1.00

00:21:38.420 I mean, that whole story was so ridiculous, you know, the media has ignored it completely.

00:21:43.400 Conservatives have picked up that part of the story.

00:21:45.440 But one of the things I'm fascinated by is that Amy Robach, a decorated journalist in the mainstream who covered the story for multiple years, also says on this tape that she is 100% convinced that Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself.

00:22:00.720 And that is on the tape.

00:22:02.660 And I have not heard anyone investigate that.

00:22:05.300 You know, you say that people that, you know, they're conspiracy theorists, if they believe this.

00:22:09.260 I mean, is Amy Robach a conspiracy theorist?

00:22:11.880 This is like this.

00:22:12.940 This feels, I think, to the American people, not like a crazy conspiracy theory, but like something that actually happened and is being hidden from us.

00:22:20.920 No, I think you're absolutely right.

00:22:22.180 Here are some things that are that are undeniable that are not conspiracy theories.

00:22:25.400 Jeffrey Epstein ran a pedophile ring with some of the most powerful people in the world.

00:22:28.560 He had an island dedicated to pedophilia.

00:22:30.820 He had a ranch as well where he had, you know, giant people can look up these pictures of giant orgy showers and rooms with pillows and crucifixes and life-size crucifixes and no beds, by the way, just pillows and showers.

00:22:43.800 That's absolutely true.

00:22:45.320 He obviously was put on suicide watch at one point.

00:22:47.220 For some reason, I remember from it, he hung himself by kneeling in a cell with a rope from bedsheet that he tied himself with no tools that no guards noticed.

00:22:56.400 And he sustained the kind of injuries that only occur one in 20 from dead hang pull-ups, meaning when people are doing, you know, a Brooks and Shawshank, hanging themselves from the beam and kicking the stool out.

00:23:07.500 That only results one in 20 of those kinds of things result in these three fractures.

00:23:13.080 There is no conspiracy about that, and that's what we're going to be testing tonight.

00:23:16.180 Those are facts.

00:23:16.860 It doesn't mean that it's not possible, but this idea that it is the most plausible scenario, or that if someone says, you know what, I do think that's the most plausible scenario, considering that the Clintons have a higher kill count than a Klan in Call of Duty, that's what this is about. 0.62

00:23:35.080 This is for the people who've all been dismissed.

00:23:37.140 So you can visually watch what it is that you suspect, and you can watch it beyond any shadow of a doubt.

00:23:42.300 Keep in mind, again, I am an untrained professional, so there always is the risk that I need to spontaneously combust, you know, or have to speak through one of those, you know, commercials for esophageal cancer where I'll be hosting a show like this after.

00:23:55.180 I have no idea.

00:23:56.440 It could happen.

00:23:58.480 It's just interesting because, I mean, you know, I'm sure this is going to be really funny as well, and I expected it to be funny.

00:24:03.120 But I feel like we're watching like a legit Mythbusters episode here.

00:24:06.560 It does feel like it, doesn't it?

00:24:07.600 Yeah, it's also interesting that you brought up that he didn't jump from the top bunk bed, which would have made sense if you're really trying to hang yourself, because that kind of force, you would understand.

00:24:18.800 All right, yeah, that snapped his neck in three places.

00:24:21.880 Much more likely than just kneeling down and doing it.

00:24:24.980 You know, the thing is he couldn't, the reason that no one is reporting that he jumped off the top bunk, and when you look at the cell, you'll see why it would likely be impossible, because there would be no way to tie the rope so tight that you would generate tension without, you know, your body's natural defense mechanisms.

00:24:38.680 Your body doesn't want to die, right?

00:24:40.240 So there'd be no way to tie a rope where his feet couldn't be on the bottom bunk or his feet wouldn't touch the floor.

00:24:45.600 And that's why we've also, this is something else that no one takes into account, right?

00:24:49.080 It's very easy to strangle yourself, okay?

00:24:50.980 But that's not what they're arguing.

00:24:52.220 They're arguing that three bones were broken.

00:24:54.540 So we've been running some pre-tests, and I've completely slumped down to the ground.

00:24:58.100 You know, we're not generating any force.

00:24:59.660 That's not even close to what's needed to snap the neck.

00:25:01.600 But people don't realize it takes only three seconds, approximately, to be choked unconscious, right?

00:25:08.420 In those three seconds, that's your window to generate enough force to break your neck primarily because you would have to be creating leverage, pushing against the bed, snapping it,

00:25:17.340 because once you go unconscious, there's no chance that you're going to create enough force to fracture those three bones.

00:25:21.900 So we also need to see if we can generate enough force before the amount of time it would take to pass out.

00:25:27.600 The fact that it's so easy to strangulate yourself actually is back to deck against the idea that Jeffrey Epstein fractured his neck

00:25:36.200 because he would have had to be conscious to throw himself to create the kind of force toward Newton's necessary to kill himself.

00:25:43.800 And that's why the more we've been building the set out, you know, what you're talking about here, we sit down and say,

00:25:48.900 what if he jumped from the top bunk?

00:25:50.720 And we conduct some research.

00:25:51.680 Well, he didn't jump from the top bunk, but let's see if we can.

00:25:53.800 There's no way to really jump from the top bunk and create a rope that would function.

00:25:56.940 Wow.

00:25:57.020 You go, wait a second.

00:25:57.860 What if he passed out and then was just slumped down?

00:26:01.140 You know, his leg got caught, let's say, on the bed, so all of the energy went on his neck.

00:26:05.180 It was nowhere close to the force necessary.

00:26:07.360 So we haven't tested everything yet, but we've done a lot of pre-runs here.

00:26:12.080 And the more that we've researched it, the more that we've recreated the set,

00:26:17.040 the more convinced I am that we haven't gotten the full story.

00:26:19.840 And listen, people can watch for themselves at 8 p.m. Eastern tonight.

00:26:23.080 It's the first time they'll be able to see in action what the cell looks like,

00:26:27.060 what the kind of force was that could be generated.

00:26:30.020 And we're not going to conclusions yet.

00:26:32.940 So I'm as curious as you guys are,

00:26:35.280 namely to see that if I'll even be able to haunt this kind of a conversation.

00:26:38.620 Is there a promo code associated with your potential death tonight, Stephen?

00:26:44.400 There is.

00:26:45.140 It is just Epstein.

00:26:46.380 So once the stream goes live at 8 p.m. Eastern, I believe, through Black Friday, actually,

00:26:50.680 the promo code Epstein will give people $20 off Mug Club joining the Blaze TV.

00:26:55.460 So they can go to lottofetter.com slash Mug Club,

00:26:58.000 and you get the full hand-etched mug and, of course, access to the whole Blaze TV catalog.

00:27:01.840 You'll be coming under for $20 off if you enter in the promo code Epstein.

00:27:06.760 And, of course, all the proceeds go directly to conducting these kinds of experiments in the future

00:27:12.120 and this kind of content, which is wildly unprofessional, incredibly entertaining,

00:27:16.140 but hopefully somewhat useful.

00:27:18.080 All right.

00:27:18.280 Stephen Crowder, louderwithcrowder.com.

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00:27:28.040 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:27:36.760 Somebody we haven't heard from much in the last three years, Rick Perry.

00:27:45.280 And we're only hearing about him now, I think, because he's on his way out as Secretary of Energy.

00:27:51.300 But he's apparently changed his mind ever so slightly from the campaign in 2016.

00:27:58.600 I mean, just a little bit.

00:27:59.540 A little nuanced.

00:28:00.320 Yeah.

00:28:00.560 It's tough to tell.

00:28:01.400 I don't know if you can detect it.

00:28:02.420 It is.

00:28:03.140 I know.

00:28:03.660 You know, because I believe he referred to Donald Trump as a cancer during the campaign.

00:28:09.480 But now he's the chosen one who was sent by God to lead us.

00:28:13.760 We have the audio of this.

00:28:14.320 God used imperfect people all through history.

00:28:17.160 King David wasn't perfect.

00:28:18.560 Saul wasn't perfect.

00:28:19.680 Solomon wasn't perfect.

00:28:20.580 And I actually gave the president a little one-pager on those Old Testament kings about a month ago.

00:28:27.720 And I shared it with him.

00:28:28.660 I said, Mr. President, I know there are people that say, you know, you said you were the chosen one.

00:28:33.880 And I said, you were.

00:28:37.380 I said, if you're a believing Christian, you understand God's plan for the people who rule and judge over us on this planet in our government.

00:28:51.420 So it's nuanced, you know, like you said, Stu.

00:28:56.100 It's tough to find the difference there between campaign 2016 and today.

00:29:06.300 It's slightly different.

00:29:07.640 Yeah, it's different.

00:29:08.400 I mean, look, and some of that is, there's a lot of people who did not like Donald Trump in the campaign and like him more now.

00:29:14.780 I've said a million times he succeeded my expectations.

00:29:16.840 Oh, yeah, mine too.

00:29:17.460 However, to go from cancer to the chosen one of God is significant.

00:29:25.140 It's a significant change is the way I would put it.

00:29:27.420 It's a significant change.

00:29:28.280 You know, people are beating him up on this.

00:29:30.780 And it's hard to tell exactly what he's trying to do there.

00:29:33.240 I mean, obviously, like the sort of obvious take is like, you know, you want to get Trump on your side.

00:29:42.340 You say really positive things about him.

00:29:43.800 And like that's he's just taking that to the nine millionth degree.

00:29:47.460 I mean, you could also make the argument, look, look, you know, it's God's will and Trump is in that position because it's God's will.

00:29:52.640 And that's all he was saying.

00:29:54.260 I don't know.

00:29:55.040 I mean, it is there is there is this weird thing, I think, particularly with people talking about religion around these issues.

00:30:00.400 It puts them in weird positions, I think, a lot, you know, like there is a there's a there's a big thing about how character was ultimately the most important thing when Bill Clinton was running.

00:30:13.680 And obviously, the Republicans have sort of long abandoned that.

00:30:17.040 And now Democrats claim that they care about character, which is just laughable.

00:30:22.980 I mean, yeah.

00:30:24.200 How you even with a straight face say these things.

00:30:27.260 But really, both sides have sort of switched on that point.

00:30:30.240 I mean, during the Clinton impeachment, I mean, yes, there was a lot of conversation about about the legal part of this, but always bigger than that was the idea that conservatives care about who you are as a man, who you are as a person.

00:30:46.360 Yeah, it matters.

00:30:47.240 Character matters.

00:30:48.100 We said that a million times, especially during Clinton.

00:30:50.680 But like you said, it's changed.

00:30:52.800 And there's pretty good indication of that from Eric McTaxas was was interviewing Franklin Graham kind of about that very thing.

00:31:04.080 Awesome.

00:31:05.100 Well, you have not shrunk from talking politics.

00:31:10.960 And a lot of people have what I consider a profoundly unbiblical notion that if you love Jesus, you're not supposed to talk politics or be political.

00:31:23.580 I don't find that only wrong, but tremendously harmful.

00:31:28.160 And so you've been a hero to many because you've been willing to speak about politics.

00:31:34.280 And so what do you think of what is happening now?

00:31:37.120 I mean, it's a very bizarre situation to be living in a country where some people seem to exist to undermine the president of the United States.

00:31:50.220 It's just a bizarre time for most Americans.

00:31:54.880 Well, I believe it's almost a demonic power that is trying.

00:32:00.440 I would disagree.

00:32:01.380 It's not almost demonic.

00:32:03.000 No.

00:32:03.320 I mean, you know and I know that at the heart it's a spiritual battle.

00:32:06.260 It's a spiritual battle.

00:32:07.440 And if you look at what the president has done just for our country, regardless of whether you're a Republican or Democrat, the unemployment is at the lowest in 70 years.

00:32:19.020 More African-Americans are working.

00:32:20.480 More Latinos are working.

00:32:21.940 More Asians are working.

00:32:23.360 More everybody is working.

00:32:24.900 We have an economy that is just screaming forward.

00:32:29.620 It's incredible.

00:32:30.280 Can you even imagine we're saying this?

00:32:32.040 Because literally three years ago, our economy was dead in the water.

00:32:37.760 Dead in the water.

00:32:39.520 We all know it.

00:32:40.600 And three years later, you just said it's screaming forward.

00:32:43.300 That's a fact.

00:32:44.040 I mean, that's not our opinion, right?

00:32:45.720 And here's what that does for churches, for Christians.

00:32:50.220 That means more people are working.

00:32:52.380 So there's more people tithing and giving to the churches.

00:32:55.020 There's more money for missions.

00:32:57.160 There's more money for your building programs.

00:33:00.360 All of this is because Donald Trump said he was going to turn things around and make America great again.

00:33:06.300 He cut taxes.

00:33:08.180 And that cutting taxes added fuel to this economic engine that we're enjoying right now.

00:33:13.400 He's not a politician.

00:33:14.720 I appreciate that about him.

00:33:16.060 He's a businessman.

00:33:17.220 And that's what we've needed in our government, not politicians.

00:33:20.160 We need businessmen.

00:33:21.640 And he's done that.

00:33:22.400 Well, it's almost comedic because I know you've been vilified by people for standing up for Trump.

00:33:30.220 I have to a lesser extent because I've been less vocal, and I'm not as known as you are.

00:33:35.980 But it's just a fascinating thing because people seem to devolve to a kind of moralistic pharisaism.

00:33:42.440 And they say, how can you support somebody, blah, blah, blah.

00:33:44.860 And then they go on to cite how he's the least Christian.

00:33:48.600 You know, they go on and on.

00:33:49.480 And I think these people, they don't even have a biblical view when it comes to that, you know, that if somebody doesn't hold to our theology, that doesn't mean they can't be a great pilot or a great doctor or dentist.

00:34:03.620 I mean, it's a bizarre situation that we're in, that people seem only to have these standards for the president somehow.

00:34:11.780 You know, I believe that Donald Trump believes.

00:34:14.420 He believes in God.

00:34:15.980 He believes in Jesus Christ.

00:34:17.900 His depth, he doesn't, you know, he went to churches here in New York.

00:34:23.220 Yeah.

00:34:23.540 He didn't get a whole lot of teaching.

00:34:25.060 He knows there's two testaments, right?

00:34:27.680 Yes.

00:34:28.000 He knows that.

00:34:28.520 Okay, we're going to go.

00:34:29.060 So, yeah, okay, well, some of that, you know, I agree with.

00:34:34.000 But as you brought up, that's not what we said during Clinton.

00:34:38.600 We said character really matters, right?

00:34:42.300 That's what Christian said, I think, during the Clinton years.

00:34:46.720 And so it was slightly different then.

00:34:50.620 Yeah.

00:34:50.860 And I think it's changed now, and it seems like character doesn't matter now.

00:34:55.080 And I think, you know, like they do, I think he's done a really good job, way better than I thought he would.

00:34:59.880 Yeah.

00:35:00.440 I think part of it is, I don't know if it's just that we've kind of come to the conclusion that everybody pretty much sucks.

00:35:05.800 You know, you just don't expect a lot out of people anymore on this front.

00:35:09.580 And, you know, to be frank about it, too, probably, you know, this wasn't necessarily the case with us per se and many in the audience.

00:35:17.540 But there was a lot of that stuff you realize later on is just a talking point of the moment.

00:35:25.440 You know?

00:35:26.260 I mean, like there was a lot of talk about executive orders around the Obama time, a lot less during the Bush time from conservatives.

00:35:36.380 The same thing happens now.

00:35:38.100 I mean, like, you know, there are things to be – there's some stuff that Trump has done that I haven't liked, like the emergency declaration and such, that I think would have definitely been opposed during the Obama administration and now aren't.

00:35:49.720 And, like, look, you look at the entire picture, you still have to pick somebody off your list, right?

00:35:56.600 When you're voting for someone, you still have to select one of the candidates that's available.

00:36:00.740 And I think there's a very, you know, very logical argument that says, look, we see what the positives of Trump are and what the negatives are.

00:36:07.660 And we've selected him because he's better than the other people.

00:36:10.200 And that's a totally rational way of sort of doing a cost-benefit analysis on the situation.

00:36:15.420 Yeah, especially now.

00:36:16.440 But there is this temptation with Trump, I think, is different than others for Republicans at least.

00:36:23.740 Because I think Obama had some of this for Democrats.

00:36:25.980 But there's this sort of idea that you can't just say, like, well, I don't like this part.

00:36:31.480 Yeah, you can't.

00:36:32.240 You can't disagree with him on anything.

00:36:35.020 Because I don't want to be a cheerleader for anybody, frankly.

00:36:37.480 I don't care who it is.

00:36:39.560 You know, it bothers me to be a cheerleader just in principle, just to be – I don't like agreeing with people enough.

00:36:45.880 I'm much more comfortable when everybody disagrees with me.

00:36:48.880 It's just like – I don't know why.

00:36:50.520 It's just like it's one of those things where that's more comfortable, I think, for a lot of people, including myself.

00:36:57.060 But to be, like, a 100% cheerleader is, I think, a function of how unfair the media is to Trump so often.

00:37:10.080 And you get defensive because you're just like, wait a minute.

00:37:12.140 They're screwing the – you know, they're attacking him all the time.

00:37:14.780 I'm not even going to bring up the problem I have with him because, you know –

00:37:19.020 That happens all the time.

00:37:20.140 I think it does.

00:37:20.820 And I think it's a natural thing for people.

00:37:22.900 We defend him more because the left, they're so out of control with it.

00:37:27.120 They hate him so much to such an extent that there's nothing he could do.

00:37:31.680 There is absolutely nothing he could do that they would agree with or condone.

00:37:36.600 No.

00:37:37.580 I mean, to the point of – again, like, Donald Trump has a trade policy I don't like.

00:37:44.220 And one of the reasons I don't like it is because it's been the Democrats' policy for 40 years.

00:37:48.500 Yeah.

00:37:48.840 Right?

00:37:49.040 And the media loved it.

00:37:53.300 They freaking loved that policy until Donald Trump kept saying it.

00:37:57.480 I think it was the Babylon Bee had a great article the other day that the headline was,

00:38:04.780 in stunning development, Donald Trump comes out in favor of impeachment, forcing Democrats to oppose it.

00:38:10.900 And it's like that's kind of –

00:38:12.700 That's where we are.

00:38:14.460 That's where we are as a society.

00:38:15.860 And Metaxas and Reverend Graham were talking about the left.

00:38:22.180 I think when they're – this reaction to him is almost demonic or, in their words, maybe past almost.

00:38:29.180 Because they're so out of control with their hatred that they just oppose absolutely everything he does.

00:38:35.760 And I think that's – it's almost true.

00:38:38.300 If he came out in favor of impeachment, they'd be against it.

00:38:41.260 I keep – I want him to go pro-choice right now.

00:38:44.180 That's what I want.

00:38:45.080 I want Trump to just come out full out.

00:38:47.020 That would be interesting.

00:38:47.900 Full out pro-choice.

00:38:50.180 Now, I don't want him to name any judges that believe that.

00:38:52.400 Right.

00:38:52.720 So, like, maybe he's making terrible mistakes with the judges.

00:38:54.920 They all happen to be pro-life.

00:38:56.000 But just as an experiment.

00:38:57.840 Let's give it a shot.

00:38:58.760 I want him on TV every day saying how we have to – what women need to be able to make their choices on this. 0.98

00:39:03.100 Up to nine months.

00:39:03.920 In fact, after the pregnancy is over, I think he should – and then all the Democrats will be like,

00:39:08.380 this man's a horror show.

00:39:09.980 He wants to murder children.

00:39:11.960 This man wants to murder children.

00:39:14.720 That's where they'd be.

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