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Glenn Beck visits the National Museum of American History in St. Louis on Independence Day and talks about his experience visiting the museum and touring it with his wife, Tanya Beck. Glenn and Tanya talk about their love of history and how important it is to be an active participant in our community.
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You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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Okay, I toured the Smithsonian a couple of months ago back in Washington, D.C.
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And coming here and seeing this display gives you a totally different perspective of what American history was.
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I did not know that Teddy Roosevelt had been shot.
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And so to see the letter with the bullet holes in it and everything, amazing.
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I think it was pretty cool being Native American from Chico, California,
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that George Washington gave a medal to a Native American.
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I would stand but never said it, never put my heart on my chest
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because I had believed that the government, which some, everybody, you know, people are people,
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But at the same time, there was Indians, the code talkers, you know, that were there.
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And, you know, as I learned more and more history, it's kind of cool to be like,
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all right, there's some people who are fighting for Native Americans, you know, black people,
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Chinese people, Japanese people, all the people that come to America to be an American
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So, yeah, George Washington giving a medal to a Native American was awesome.
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I think I feel inspired, empowered, really, you know,
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kind of a sense of needing to speak out and to stand for freedom
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and kind of figure out what my part is in all of this and go do it, go to work, go to battle, really.
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Like I said, we don't know if we're going to win or not or what the outcome is going to be,
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but it's our duty to do something, right, not to stand on the sidelines,
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but to, you know, to be an active participant in our history and in our community.
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We're here in St. George and we're doing the History Museum,
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taking it on road to make sure that your kids know the truth this Independence Day
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Hopefully, we are going to be putting it on the road all across America.
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We'd love to know if you wanted it in your community,
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but it is something that I think at this point in our history, we have to decide.
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People are saying something hit them, you know,
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and it's weird because it's a different section for everyone.
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I think when people see the first draft of the Declaration of Independence
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and then the final draft, the stone copy of it from 1823,
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all of these things that you may never have seen before
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They don't let me in, but I'm going to sneak in.
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We wanted to make sure that it wasn't too crowded,
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You might get here and you may have to wait an hour or something to get in,
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You can get your tickets also on unitedwepledge.org.
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I mean, first of all, there's a hundred reasons why they would,
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but I think the main one they're talking about there
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is the purchase of all these historical documents and items,
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it's a great thing that you've purchased all of this stuff to preserve.
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who's hemorrhaging every cent out of your bank account to purchase it,
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Get into the room and start painting, big boy, okay?
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because that seems to be the only thing purchasing all of this.
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One, because it lets me escape into another world for a few hours,
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And the other is because I got to sell something to,
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I mean, we're going to be living, I swear to you,
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She's like, we'll have that in our shopping cart.
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and I've made fun of Glenn for this in the past,
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I think the normal reaction to someone who hears this,
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is like, how does this Hunter Biden-like scam work, right?
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So bring your checkbook if you happen to be rich.
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because we're going to milk you for every cent you have.
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Just saying, we're trying to put this thing on the road.
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although I will say, if you think of the difference,
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Like, there's some, it's sort of the same thing,
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except less cocaine and more really nerdy documents.
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There is something coming up for sale on July 7th.
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So, you know what the number one bestseller is here?
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which may I just say from experience this week,
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It's just going to crack open my face here soon.
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There's a couple of things that you need to know about.
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says he's going to skip at least the first Republican debate,
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I think these guys should stop doing these debates
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I mean, oh boy, Stu's looking at me skeptically.
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I mean, look, I don't think Fox's news coverage is perfect by any means,
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but certainly it's more friendly than the mainstream media as a whole.
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We're just including Fox News and mainstream media now.
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I mean, I don't think that that's always the case.
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I think they are way off course from where they used to be.
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And now, you know, now it's just I kind of don't trust them.
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I knew Tucker was fighting and fighting the inside and the outside.
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And now, I mean, who do you really trust over there?
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You know, Brett Baer is a straight news journalist.
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I mean, you know, maybe not comparing him to whatever your ideal Fox is,
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I mean, I take Brett Baer a thousand times in a row.
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But you don't have to settle for that now anymore.
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I do think that what you're talking about here,
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because obviously, you know, somewhat that's self-serving, right?
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I would build a panel of people that are going to ask honest questions.
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I don't want questions coming from any one point of view.
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I want people who will ask the honest question.
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Look, sometimes Fox has done a good job with that in previous debates sometimes.
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But I would say like one of the things that's most interesting to me about your idea here
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is that what we get out of mainstream media are questions that would theoretically interest their audience.
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And often that question is, you know, something like,
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And it's like, all right, like, I get that's what, you know, Rachel Maddow's audience probably does want to hear.
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But, like, I would like to hear, like, much more, like, I would like to hear from Donald Trump, hey, you know,
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you're talking a lot about, you know, beating the deep state, right, and how important that is, one of your main justifications for running.
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Well, if you're out of office right now, right, and you're saying this election was stolen from you,
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Why didn't you do something when you had the power to do it, right?
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Like, that's a question that, like, I think that's something that, like,
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like, would be a real question of, like, how he's going to govern.
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Like, there's a lot of questions there about Donald Trump's presidency that might be interesting to a conservative
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What we get from the mainstream media is, like, this pitch of why Donald Trump is so evil
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And I think there's very little value in a primary for that.
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So here's what I, because I asked Donald Trump that question,
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and I don't know if it was publicly or privately, but I said,
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He said, I had absolutely no idea how deep it went, but I do now.
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It's a reasonable answer, but I mean, I think it's fair to worry about that.
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If you're putting someone back into office who missed it last time, like, I think that's a question.
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And I think the same question to go, and I'm not saying this to beat up on Trump.
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He's just the one that everyone knows their story better.
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I mean, like, you could ask the same question about Ron DeSantis.
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He's never dealt with the Washington people like this.
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But, you know, is he going to be able to perform in this situation?
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A lot of people are uncomfortable with how he's using his power in the state, you know, as maybe it's too top down, right, for a conservative audience.
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Let's go back and forth and hear from another candidate who says, you know what, maybe you're doing too much from the governor's mansion.
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But, like, how do you decipher between two conservatives has nothing to do with whether Donald Trump kept documents.
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That means nothing to me as it as it regards to going to try to pick somebody in a primary.
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Well, I have a feeling that the left feels the same way about those documents.
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None, apparently, on the left that we should either listen to or take credible.
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The whole leak was him talking about a plan, apparently, with Iran.
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And those were one of the, you know, they took those documents away from him because he was being irresponsible with them.
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And guess what wasn't even listed when they charged him?
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So, wait, we've been arguing about a conversation he had where he said he was holding up a magazine and they don't even have the document?
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I mean, I would say highly unlikely if they had the document and he had the document, he'd reach over and grab it and say, look at this.
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But if the document doesn't exist, at least in the file, then you have to go to he shredded it, which is now a conspiracy theorist or or what?
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I mean, and I think, too, this is a situation where it's not like we don't have the murder weapon.
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We have no idea if he actually killed someone in this murder case.
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The document, if the document doesn't exist, who knows?
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Again, as your conspiracy theory, you're like, you know, you think maybe he shredded it.
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But if you don't have any evidence of that, what do you have here?
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Again, this story, I think, is just nonsensical.
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It's got nothing to do with the future of the country.
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This is just a sideshow, a sideshow, yet another attempt to throw Donald Trump out of office when you what you could do to get him out of office, which is just beat him.
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If you're a Democrat and you don't want Donald Trump to be president, then win.
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They keep trying to do this by some other means, and they, you know, go down these roads.
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Do the American people care if the president, who literally was given this document in office to see it, instead of having it in front of him, just remembers the details?
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The question is, does he have it in his possession or not?
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That's really what we're going to determine the future of this country on.
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By the way, Chip Roy, who we're trying to get on, Chip Roy has come out and said that a number of Republicans don't believe Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas should be impeached over his handling of the border.
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May I ask, how low is the bar for unemployment or employment at the Biden administration?
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Because it seems like everyone can keep their job, and they're all doing fine.
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Why don't you just Xerox the book and just hand it to all the reporters?
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If you're going to read all of the answers, they got them there.
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Does he have to start driving drug cartel members across the border and have them sleep in the White House before we care?
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He would remain no matter what, which is incredible.
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By the way, Glenn, one update on the border situation.
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You know the whole DeSantis flying people into Martha's Vineyard?
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It was the worst thing any governor had ever done in history.
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And we were all told about all these awful things.
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Now there's a new story in the New York Times that the people who did stay, which was a small percentage of them, they booted most of them out immediately.
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But the people who did stay really enjoying Martha's Vineyard.
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It's why all of our presidents built houses there.
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Wow, they just dropped me in one of the greatest vacation paradises of all time, at least in America.
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However, it should be a surprise to anyone who reads the New York Times who were told this was one of the worst things the governor has ever done.
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And they're making it seem like, oh, well, they put it in the face of Ron DeSantis by enjoying their time in Martha's Vineyard.
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Was DeSantis trying to punish them by putting them there?
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He was trying to point out, hey, the burden can't be held by only southern states.
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And while, you know, these people, of course, are going to enjoy it there.
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You clearly send them to Philadelphia or Washington, D.C.
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Timothy Barton is with us now from Wall Builders.
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Thank you so much for coming to Liberty Week here in St. George.
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Yeah, you and your dad are across the street now doing another American history seminar.
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And usually when we do these, and maybe it's because of me because I'm such a loud mouth,
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So actually, we were going to do one-day seminars, and we said there's no way we can squeeze three
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So you're at, wow, you're at, then today you'd be at my part where it gets really, really
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I could get back and the whole story's changed.
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You know, the amazing thing is, and people are seeing this here, backed up by facts.
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We are a country that is both Jamestown and Plymouth.
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We have this great map that was printed by Congress in 1870 that shows the tree that comes
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It's all, it ends in treason and murder and death and slavery.
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And the tree from the pilgrims leads to freedom.
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And people don't understand the difference between those two and that we have to make
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So the map specifically, if people are wanting to look it up, it came out in 1888.
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If they look for 1888 map of Jamestown and Plymouth, they can find that map and it shows
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And what's great about even the imagery, it came out at the end of reconstruction.
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So as America has gone through the civil war, 13th, 14th, 15th amendment, rights are being
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At this point, you still have the Union Army in the South enforcing all of those civil rights
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And when President Cleveland comes in and they revoke all of the civil rights laws passed in
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Well, part of what was going on, there was a discrepancy in the presidency leading up to
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And part of, there was not enough electoral votes, and this is before Cleveland, I think
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Yeah, I'm just, I'm so overloaded with my Hayes information that I can't sort through
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Well, and yeah, we've been studying for a different conversation.
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And so now I'm like, wait a second, which one is this?
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But you go back, it was the last Republican before Democrats take over.
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And there wasn't enough electoral votes to declare a presidential winner.
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And in Congress, it still wasn't really clear that they're still divided of who's going to
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And some of the congressmen from the South said, we will, we will acquiesce.
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We'll say, Republicans, you can have the president if you remove the Union Army from the South,
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because the Union Army is who was enforcing all of these civil rights laws.
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And not everybody in the South was against some of what was going on, but certainly the
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And there were some absolutely racist, embedded thoughts in those political leaders in many
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And so they said, we'll give you the presidency if you remove these, the Union Army from our
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Well, when the Union Army is removed, they begin revoking some of those civil rights laws
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Well, once you have removed the ability for black Americans to vote, there was at that point,
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a lot of black elected officials in Southern states, all Republicans.
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But once blacks can no longer vote in those states anymore, all of a sudden, Democrats not
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only come back to power, they have been a super majority coming back with what they're doing.
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And when they get that power from the South, all of the Southern elected individuals become
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That's when you begin to see not only Democrats having power in Congress, the presidency coming
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That's when you start seeing them go back to some of that racist roots where they're
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And this is part of the legacy of Jamestown and Plymouth.
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And even to that map, what's worth noting is when you look at where Jamestown and Plymouth
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are, it shows there are two things that they are rooted in.
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And it's very clearly, there's a book that says Bible on the side, but Jamestown, it's
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We have, hang on just a second, we have downstairs their letter from, or their oath that they
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It's, I mean, really, when you start looking at the historical documents, there's no question
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at all that these were individuals who were rooted in faith.
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When even we have the first printing of Governor Bradford's journal, and he identified at times
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that it's been six to eight hours a day studying the Bible, that this is who they were.
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And so it shows in the map, that is a foundation of Plymouth.
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And Jamestown, it shows that the foundation of Jamestown is a coin.
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And what they were pointing out is that some of these individuals, where they had gone wrong,
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the Bible tells us that the love of money is the root of all evil.
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And where they went wrong is they cared more about making money than they did about individuals.
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I think the same thing could be said about Columbus.
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He starts to think, oh, my gosh, I'm going to be famous.
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I mean, whenever anyone is pursuing, at least on this land, when they are just pursuing money,
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And I think this is also part of the dichotomy, even in human history, where even with Jamestown
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and Plymouth, this is not a new thought or idea.
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You can go back to the famous novel by Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities, right?
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This was always kind of, you have two options and what option you're going to take.
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But it's also worth noting, even that early 1888 map depicts it very well.
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The majority of America was far more impacted by Plymouth than they were Jamestown, which
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one of the things that we will illustrate for people when someone says America's evil,
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Unquestionably, we had Jim Crow laws in America.
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But we always ask the question, where do we have Jim Crow laws?
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Really, when you start looking at the tree that came from Plymouth and it goes across all
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of the northern U.S. and spreads into the western U.S.
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So all of the northern states, the only part that really embraced the Jim Crow laws were
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the deep democratic South where that racism was embedded in much of their culture.
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So at what point did the Klan, because we have some stuff down in the museum that is
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And one of them is a little Klan card with faces of mostly black, but a lot of whites as
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They would hand them out and say, if you see these people, kill them or call us.
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Yeah, it was the Republican legislature of South Carolina.
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And in South Carolina, the Republicans, the one fighting for equal rights, well, that
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was the Republican Party was the party that all of the former slaves, the black people
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were joining because that was the party of freedom and equality.
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And it was because really the first platform, the Republican Party didn't have anything like
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It was all about anti-slavery, which we also have that.
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So the first Republican platform came in in 1856 and had nine planks.
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So nine things of what we fundamentally believe, well, seven of the nine planks were against
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So, right, this is where it's not confusing at all.
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The Republican Party was against slavery, which also leads into when Lincoln gets elected
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in 1860 on the Republican platform, the Republican platform is still absolutely anti-slavery.
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When he gets elected and South Carolina was the first state to secede, South Carolina released
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It was like their version of the declaration of independence.
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And what they acknowledged is that we know with this new Republican leadership that their
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goal is to end and emancipate the slaves, enslave or emancipate the slaves.
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And we know that slavery is no longer South if we remain in the union.
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And so they conclude this declaration of causes by saying, we invite all other slave holding
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states to join us in forming a pro-slavery confederation.
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And this is where, when people even talk about states' rights, we'd encourage people, go
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back and read why they actually said they're separating, because the political leaders did
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Now, we also make the distinction, not everybody in the South was pro-slavery, just like not
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You had people from New York, as a great example, they were very much pro-slavery, but they were
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Whereas the political leaders in the South, they were so pro-slavery, they said, we don't
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care about the union, we care more about our slaves.
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And this is where we would tell people, of the 11 states that seceded, five of them
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released declaration of causes, where they are literally saying why they're seceding.
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And in every one of their declaration of causes, they're talking about slavery being the primary
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Well, you're also, if you look at the constitution of the Southern states, you can't join the
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secession unless you agree with slavery, will have slavery, and agree to expand slavery
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And what's also worth noting about even the Confederate Constitution, it's almost a verbatim
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copy of the U.S. Constitution, and then they just added several parts they thought would
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And the parts they added were parts to protect and defend and expand slavery as new territories
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Well, that's actually a super interesting question, because in the Confederate Constitution,
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I have not looked into the conversations they had about not including the Bill of Rights,
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but absolutely, that would be an interesting conversation or interesting research.
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