The Glenn Beck Program - April 25, 2025


Best of the Program | Guest: Tim Kennedy | 4⧸25⧸25


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

180.02484

Word Count

8,554

Sentence Count

7

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

The New York Times thinks President Trump has put a bunch of his own money into the White House to showcase luxury, and how he just wants guillotines. I explain exactly what because I know I was in the Oval and I talked to the President about it one-on-one.


Transcript

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00:00:13.720 richer than you think well the new york times thinks president trump has put a bunch of his
00:00:17.700 own money into the white house to showcase luxury and how he just wants guillotines
00:00:23.500 oh my gosh i can't i can't take it i explain exactly what because i know i was in the oval
00:00:30.660 and i talked to the president about it one-on-one this week new york times doesn't know their butt
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00:02:38.660 you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program oh where to begin where to begin where to
00:02:53.340 begin uh please louise there's there's so much um the the polls of the the democrats just getting
00:03:03.660 worse and worse and worse uh that's in the news i you know the media has a new conspiracy about
00:03:11.280 trump's decor on the oval office which i i saw that story can i start there please yeah i want to start
00:03:17.380 there this really drives me out of my you were just there you just just there noticed a lot of these
00:03:21.900 same things did you notice a big conspiracy oh a giant conspiracy i spoke to the president about
00:03:29.660 this very thing okay when i walked in they left me and my wife alone in the oval for about
00:03:35.480 five minutes okay which doesn't normally happen that doesn't happen that doesn't happen and when
00:03:40.620 he finally walked in he said i asked him to leave you alone in here because i knew you'd want to look
00:03:45.180 around it might feel uncomfortable so did you look around and i'm like oh my gosh i touched everything
00:03:49.340 better than in the clinton administration i'll say that yeah uh no i i mean i was very uh very you
00:03:58.580 know respectful of everything in there i didn't touch anything but i did look at everything and i mean
00:04:03.060 they have a uh what he's done let me just start here this is what the new york times is saying
00:04:09.060 that uh if you look at the maximalist gold accents in which trump has appointed the oval office
00:04:15.060 the sparkle conveying something more than insidious about how trump views himself
00:04:19.940 behold the new sun king the wannabe emperor who views his powers as absolute really is that what
00:04:27.280 it says is that really what it says okay now you could say it says a guy who loves gold is anybody
00:04:35.020 surprised by that is anybody surprised that donald trump the most luxurious the most golden gold of all
00:04:42.620 gold you could possibly ever imagine gold never thought gold could be this gold okay the thing
00:04:48.000 he's like most famous for before he was president is gold okay he loves gold i would have you know
00:04:56.860 the president is spending his own money doing any of these upgrades to the white house anything that
00:05:05.540 is being done by him and he is doing a lot and uh a lot just a lot uh and every american should be
00:05:14.440 grateful for what he is spending his money on and doing and you will know more about that uh in the
00:05:20.260 coming months uh you will be shocked at some of the things that he is just saying i'm just going to
00:05:25.720 write a check and do it uh but anyway if you look at the oval i i want to know how how putting
00:05:34.840 paintings of presidents up says i'm the sun king okay every i looked at all of the paintings i wanted
00:05:44.020 to know because it says a lot about a president on who he is putting up on the walls you know what
00:05:51.980 paintings is he putting up on the walls now some people have put landscapes on other people you know
00:05:58.440 have put you know pictures of new york up or whatever this president has put presidents on the wall
00:06:06.900 he has taken the um not rembrandt peel i think it's his his father tim is it timothy p i can't remember
00:06:15.800 what his father's name rembrandt peel is the guy who did the porthole president uh painting which is
00:06:21.940 also up on the it's above the declaration of independence but above the fireplace his father
00:06:29.340 did the most famous painting of of uh george washington as a young soldier charles wilson
00:06:36.220 peel charles wilson pill and it's the one where he's standing you've seen it a million times in
00:06:41.780 history books and he's standing there and he's got his hand kind of in his vest and the sword by his
00:06:47.500 and it's it's a young george washington and that hung in the reagan oval office okay hasn't been
00:06:55.460 seen since then all of these paintings one is a painting of thomas jefferson that hasn't been seen
00:07:00.800 in a hundred years okay and so what donald trump did is he went down into the vaults of the white
00:07:07.420 house i know because i talked to him about this um he said all of these stuff glenn he said they have
00:07:12.700 all these things that have been and can be used in the white house that are just in storage down in
00:07:17.440 the vaults and he said so i just went down in the vaults and i'm like what what do we have what do
00:07:21.700 we have and he said all of these beautiful paintings of all of these um uh presidents he said they
00:07:28.960 haven't been seen and he's like i i don't know this is the this is the room of the presidents i thought
00:07:35.580 we should put presidents up on the wall okay now here's the thing that the new york times will never
00:07:41.420 understand because they immediately go to he's the sun king he wants to behead people and then he'll end
00:07:47.220 up beheading being beheaded that that's they're immediately going to he wants to be a dictator
00:07:52.640 when he first came in he said you see all the gold and i said you can't really miss it mr president
00:07:59.180 now i'm not a fan of of gold uh and you know all of the gilding and stuff it the way he's done it is
00:08:07.820 beautiful i personally that's not my style but it doesn't have to be my style okay and i i said uh
00:08:17.740 i said i think i know why the price of gold is so high what does this cost you and he laughed and uh
00:08:24.340 and uh he said i'm gonna leave it of course but i mean unless it's a democrat then i might just take
00:08:31.940 all of a gilding off um uh but he was joking here's what he said to me glenn this is the most
00:08:39.000 important office in the world and all of these people come from their big huge palaces and their
00:08:47.920 big huge uh rooms of power that's gilded and has all of these paintings all of the old trappings of
00:08:56.940 power he said i want them to understand that this is the same kind of power except it's a new power
00:09:07.320 and a power beyond their understanding so he is trying he is doing this to the oval office not to
00:09:15.780 become a dictator not to signal anything to america but to signal something to all of the dignitaries that
00:09:21.960 come into that office and sit in those chairs you are sitting at a place of ultimate power
00:09:29.920 that's exactly what the oval is supposed to do that's why they built it that way that's that's the
00:09:40.300 whole point of that office is to project power to the world not to the citizen to the world
00:09:49.000 i just i was just with him two days ago we had this very conversation the new york times you're
00:09:55.420 so full of bullcrap i can't take it um there was an f in there and i thought it was going a different
00:10:00.600 direction for a second in the middle of that sentence it's very close today it could happen
00:10:04.060 uh i i'm just so i am so sick and tired of this guy i mean look this is not my taste it's not my taste
00:10:13.120 it's not the way i would decorate it but i understand why he's doing it and i appreciate why he's doing it
00:10:18.380 well i mean he does obviously love gold and he loves the way those are that's decorated is but
00:10:22.980 go ahead but but he also knows how people in powerful positions in other nations yes view
00:10:31.220 things right like he said glenn i've been i've been to moscow i've been in all of their places of power
00:10:36.600 we need to make sure that they understand that they see enough of what they believe is power
00:10:42.960 they see enough of that and then some he i was i we this conversation went on for probably 10 minutes
00:10:50.780 it's so ironic that they write this stupid story today yeah because i'm sitting there and i gotta
00:10:56.320 you know what i'm gonna send you some pictures uh of me sitting with him and my wife at the oval and
00:11:03.880 also looking around because we are having this conversation and you can see him having this
00:11:09.240 conversation with me i will post them up online when we get into the break um
00:11:13.700 he knows exactly what he's doing and he spoke to me about like i can't tell you everything that we
00:11:26.400 spoke about because he made me sign a non-disclosure and i wish he wouldn't have
00:11:32.160 um because he just shows you who he is and what he's doing that makes him look good this guy never
00:11:40.460 allows people to talk about the really unbelievable humbling things that he does never because i think
00:11:49.620 he thinks it makes him look weak and i just want to i could take him by the shoulders today and shake
00:11:55.220 um because the guy is a builder he knows how to build he knows how to build things of quality
00:12:05.080 and what he's doing to the white house is phenomenal just phenomenal and he's not doing it to project
00:12:14.860 power why if you were a dictator why would you put all of the other presidents why would you put george
00:12:21.960 washington over the fireplace why would you have thomas jeff if you wanted to be a dictator
00:12:27.760 why would you put the declaration of independence right next to your desk that says we hold these
00:12:36.540 truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal and and that governments are established by men
00:12:44.360 why would you do that that says we don't have a king why would you do that why why you know why does
00:12:55.700 he have the what is it fifa is that how you say it fifa fifa for the soccer yeah the soccer yeah okay
00:13:01.600 you know he has the soccer statue that the the world cup the world cup okay sitting right next to his
00:13:07.560 desk did you know that no okay so the the fifa guy comes and is visiting the president and i walk in
00:13:14.240 and i only seen a little bit of it you know and when the press is in there and i'm like i think
00:13:18.180 that's the world cup and so i go in it's unbelievable unbelievable in real in real life and it's all gold
00:13:25.600 beautiful gold and it's this year's cup which is happening here in america and so the fifa president
00:13:32.240 comes in and shows him the cup and he's like you know we do have the world cup happening here would
00:13:39.400 be great if you just leave it here next to my desk and the guy is like okay you can have it for a
00:13:45.420 couple of months and he's like all right so he's got it he's got it i think until the until the world
00:13:51.120 cup happens uh and uh so he has it sitting there why why why would he put it there why why tell me
00:14:01.180 why why why tell me anybody quickly my guess would be that the importance of that trophy to the rest of
00:14:08.260 the world is incredibly high yes yes yes no it's because he wants to be a dictator and show that he
00:14:16.040 could even win at soccer games no no he's showing the rest of the world this thing just lives here
00:14:22.360 when i want it basically yes we are the center of the world cup this year the world is coming to us
00:14:30.540 he's going to have i mark my words he didn't tell me this but mark my words he will have the gold
00:14:37.200 medals and everything else from the olympic games which is also here in america he will have those in
00:14:43.600 his office he is signaling to the world you new york times people are so caught up in your own
00:14:51.900 self-righteous dim-witted over-educated bullcrap that you can't get beyond yourself
00:14:59.800 can you not see what a negotiator is doing are you really that dim-witted that you can't understand
00:15:09.180 what this guy is doing are you that full of spite and hatred that you can't for a second step outside
00:15:16.360 of yourself and go wait a minute is there a strategy to this this guy is playing a game of chess
00:15:22.560 beyond your under you're not even playing checkers you're not even playing marbles i don't know what
00:15:28.340 you're playing i don't know what you're playing yeah you know it's interesting i think part of the
00:15:35.520 reason they do stuff like this is because it fits into their narrative of who he is yes you know like
00:15:42.540 and i think you could if you kind of look at it from a surface if you step back i don't think you
00:15:46.340 can possibly get to hey he wants to be a king that's just dumb but like you could get to a place
00:15:50.940 where you think he wouldn't put any thought into this right like i think you could get to you know
00:15:54.560 guys guys tweeting mean things at people he's you know he's out there he's kind of he's he's letting
00:16:00.540 it fly all the time he's a former reality show host he's not going to care about what you know
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00:17:49.160 really want to thank you for listening tim kennedy good to see you the other day in the white house
00:17:54.220 how are you sir i am exceptionally well right now how are you doing sir i am great i'm great what were
00:18:00.660 you doing in the white house um oh that i had i was there for a week um the day that i saw you
00:18:07.180 we were going in to see the president um and i was escorting a bunch of wounded heroes for what is
00:18:13.960 the fifth and uh the fifth celebration now that we're doing it and it'll be you know hopefully a
00:18:19.960 national holiday for wounded heroes day we'll have memorial day we'll have veterans day and then in
00:18:25.260 between those two things we'll have wounded heroes day especially on the you know the the right side of
00:18:30.680 20 years at war we definitely need to celebrate these guys that have given so much these guys and gals
00:18:35.400 you know i tell you i was out tim two weeks ago and uh let's just say i can't remember what days of
00:18:42.820 the week they were but let's say on a wednesday i'm uh talking to a group of people and a guy comes up to
00:18:48.460 me and he said um i i wanted to be here tonight um but my son two days ago he was in the military
00:18:57.020 and uh he just committed suicide and oh my goodness yeah and then two days later i'm someplace else
00:19:03.720 and this this mom comes up to me and she said i just wanted to say hi and she starts crying and i
00:19:09.800 said are you okay and she said my son just committed suicide he was in the military and
00:19:13.340 this has got to stop tim this has got to stop how do what do we what do we need to do
00:19:19.560 we have to have a massive culture shift um we have to give these young men and women purpose
00:19:26.200 uh you know we've had in just this past week i was with secretary collins who's the secretary of the va
00:19:32.620 he's an extraordinary man a chaplain a combat veteran um man and he loves the veterans crying
00:19:37.860 he was literally crying talking about um he's had veterans commit suicide in the parking lots of va's
00:19:46.800 and he's like this is what we're doing i can't do it fast enough but the man is pouring his heart out
00:19:52.860 um his daughter is in a wheelchair um from a lifetime struggle of medical issues so he has not just the
00:20:00.400 combat veteran perspective but he also appreciates as you know the father kind of care provider of
00:20:05.680 somebody that's in a wheelchair the struggles of mobility and so he really appreciates the whole
00:20:11.020 entire spectrum of these people and their struggles especially our veterans and um you know as you know
00:20:18.340 there's nothing worse than a young person um or a man that is living without purpose
00:20:23.580 and these men their service was purpose their their teams and the men to the left and the right
00:20:29.420 were their purpose and now they're searching for the next thing you know afghanistan how embarrassing
00:20:34.060 that withdrawal was that deeply hurt every veteran that went to afghanistan you know and then watching
00:20:39.840 um the taliban just just run wreck and havoc throughout the whole entire region you know we're still
00:20:45.480 you know we're still spending ascending two billion dollars a year over to afghanistan
00:20:49.080 yeah um fortunately you know like all of we we have an incredible cabinet and they're rapidly fixing
00:20:57.940 these things um you know but it's uh it's such a mess it we were left with such a mess and the
00:21:05.760 tulsi gabbards and the sebastian gorkins the joe kent's and the mike waltzes they just can't go fast
00:21:11.940 enough i know they can't let me ask you this about tulsi gabbard i worry about her i mean she is
00:21:18.420 i mean she is at the gates of hell the the intel community is just it's just a den of vipers uh you
00:21:26.480 know that's that's the gates of the of the real deep state um and you know everything that's going
00:21:31.680 on around the world is is tulsi surrounded by enough people to be able to pull this thing off
00:21:37.240 um that's that's a really great question um hate that first yeah she's an extraordinary woman
00:21:46.160 she's brilliant she's passionate she loves the constitution she loves the uniform she loves our
00:21:51.420 country um and you know we got killer kent um joe kent former green beret special forces guy that
00:21:59.700 went to the agency um as as a guy that would go into you know combat operations for the agency
00:22:05.960 lost his wife shannon kent um in that same type of world we have sebastian gorka dr gorka
00:22:13.300 um andy stewart like the group at the very top of the intel community obviously mike waltz
00:22:22.080 um another green beret a former teammate of mine these people know that the system is fighting
00:22:29.980 against them and then the one tier down you know the the like upper to mid-level management of the
00:22:35.680 intelligence community they are embedded operatives that are anti everything for reform and change
00:22:41.620 so they are trying to manipulate they are leaking things to the press that shouldn't be leaked
00:22:46.740 screen captures of chat conversations but they're going to get caught you know between cash patel
00:22:53.460 um pam bondy and tulsi gabbard those are people you do not want to be on the opposite side of
00:22:59.620 an adversarial position so i tell you tim i agree with that 100 and yet you're not seeing i mean this
00:23:05.260 is the way the audience feels at least they're not seeing those those agencies moving um and you know
00:23:11.480 i talked to the president about it on wednesday and i said you know what what's happening he said glenn
00:23:15.160 you got to give it time it's still early and what i heard from others outside of the white house
00:23:20.420 was that congress is not giving them the people around them that they need to be able to move quickly
00:23:28.620 enough is that going to change i mean is congress going to change no are you kidding me like that
00:23:36.660 that that yeah of vipers as you put it perfectly um yeah they're undermining and they're currently
00:23:44.280 fighting against to postpone and slow to keep that murk and mire that is the intelligence community
00:23:49.880 ineffective and i want to make i want to make it clear i believe that's the republicans just as much
00:23:54.960 as the democrats you agree with that i do agree with that not all of them there are great ones in
00:23:59.660 there right but absolutely like they're they're the the fact that this is not a partisan issue
00:24:05.800 that our peer-level adversaries are positioning to attack us and there are embedded embedded terrorist
00:24:12.820 cells here in the united states that are working to kill americans and they are currently undermining
00:24:18.760 our intelligence capabilities they should be hung publicly that's what they that's absolutely what's
00:24:24.940 happen it's treason what they're doing to tulsi gabbard and cash patel i agree pam bondy i agree
00:24:31.200 um we're talking to tim kennedy um talking to the president about the border and what's going on on
00:24:37.440 the border this week and i said you know if if if i were you know a mexican citizen and knowing that
00:24:45.440 my government was in bed with the cartels i would be hoping that you know some special forces just show
00:24:50.120 up in the middle of the night and start killing people um in these cartels and he said well that
00:24:54.840 would be news breaking if i said that would be a good idea but you know it i hope it doesn't come
00:24:59.800 to that um but it was clear that that is on the table um i mean that really has to happen uh does it
00:25:08.640 not i mean that is a collapsed narco state in mexico isn't it yeah we the the rules of war that
00:25:17.620 we are going to be experiencing for the next five to ten years are not the traditional maneuver
00:25:21.960 warfare that people remember from korea and from vietnam and from um even g watt where you know like
00:25:29.200 we know who our enemy is these are going to be businesses these are you know syndicated criminal
00:25:33.940 organizations that do not fight fair um and the cartel owns both the businesses the corporations
00:25:39.800 and the criminal networks that are involved in that so yes it's absolutely on the table and the group
00:25:46.000 of people that are sitting on like the go button are absolute savages mr beck i know they are
00:25:51.520 i know some i know some of them and they are like and they're just like they're just chomping at the
00:25:58.820 bit to go i know i know that's the truth we're in conversation with the cartels right now and the
00:26:05.040 cartels are saying hey we don't want to die we don't want to be wiped off the face of planet which we
00:26:09.740 know is about to happen so you know are there other options where hey if we what if we stop human
00:26:14.880 trafficking what if we stop fentanyl um production entirely what if we we you know sex slaves what
00:26:21.420 if what if all that just goes away what if we stop and seal the border on the south side what are you
00:26:27.500 going to like would we maybe be allowed to transport you know some cocaine and some marijuana um i'm
00:26:33.960 totally fine with this if we stop fentanyl we stop human trafficking we stop uh gun smuggling and we
00:26:39.960 stop the invasion of our border uh like i'll i'll and we don't have to do a whole bunch of killing
00:26:45.620 you know whatever but uh they're they know they're on the brink of i hope they do the chance of
00:26:52.980 existence i hope they do the um uh you know when you when you look at what is what is happening there
00:26:58.760 and what they're bringing over here it it just it has to stop dead in its tracks dead in its tracks
00:27:05.420 it has to stop and it has to stop soon i mean you know the president is dealing with these courts
00:27:10.280 and which i think is just judicial insurrection as mike lee puts uh puts it and um it's got to stop
00:27:16.060 the president has to protect our borders and has to protect our cities this is um you know this is
00:27:23.000 the opium wars done to china by the english you know 200 years ago 150 years ago and now they're doing
00:27:30.260 it to us that that's what that's what's happening yeah um tell me about the uh christians and genocide
00:27:38.500 that you believe is on the horizon just yesterday uh after back at the white house yesterday um listening
00:27:47.280 to some briefs about there's some brilliant companies that are able to do predictive modeling
00:27:54.920 using literally every public and and classified source of information and there's these events
00:28:03.340 that are pretty predictable they you know predicted what was going to happen in afghanistan predict what
00:28:07.940 was going to happen in ukraine um well they see regionally that on the very near horizon as soon as like
00:28:16.000 late summer we are going to see um real instability throughout centcom and the endo-pacete
00:28:24.900 region and some of those things some of the catalysts that are the date the data points are what are the
00:28:33.200 killing of christians and it's happening all over centcom and explain centcom for anybody who doesn't
00:28:39.520 know what centcom means explain that if you just imagine the middle east um starting kind of in north
00:28:46.960 africa and um western asia and everything that has lots of deserts and lots of muslim countries just by
00:28:59.540 coincidence there's also israel sits in centcom um one of the the few non-muslim democracies in that
00:29:06.360 whole entire region um and you know the houthis and hamas and hezbollah uh and then in former
00:29:14.580 countries like in syria and iraq afghanistan those places it's just a massacre of christians right now
00:29:25.600 this is the best of the glenn beck podcast it's a compilation of clips from various episodes
00:29:32.600 if you want to dig deeper into this interview check out the full podcast episode
00:29:36.540 so who wants to kill themselves no i know i do i've been working with you for 20 years
00:29:44.240 not the way to start that's how i wanted no uh i wanted to bring this story to your attention glenn
00:29:50.360 because i thought it was fascinating and right up your alley in a very dark and weird twisted way
00:29:54.440 all right good so it's a story of daniel kahneman he's uh known a pretty famous uh thinker
00:30:02.560 he probably came up with condiments named after him daniel condiment yes he came up with relish
00:30:08.260 was the first one and they named all the rest of the condiments after him no he was a um uh he was
00:30:13.860 technically a psychologist but he was a kind of known for his work in behavioral economics and his
00:30:19.040 his probably most famous work was a book called thinking fast and slow oh yeah yeah um which is a
00:30:24.660 great book yeah great actually great fascinating book and basically breaking the the way we make
00:30:30.060 decisions down into a fast way which is like instinctive and reactionary and a slow way which
00:30:36.400 is slow methodical logical and a lot of times we think we're making decisions on the logical path
00:30:41.540 when we're actually making them on fast man yeah on the fast path and so it's a great book he was
00:30:46.140 also uh half of the subject of michael lewis's book called the undoing project which is another
00:30:51.900 really good book and it's about um behavioral economics is kind of where he even though he wasn't
00:30:57.480 necessarily an economist that's where he was kind of you know he wound up winning the nobel prize
00:31:02.120 in in economics so um he passed away recently that was a somewhat of a big deal a big story in that
00:31:09.420 world yeah yeah um however now we're getting the results or and the sort of behind the scenes of
00:31:15.980 what happened to this guy wasn't hit by a bus was not was not hit by a bus i'm guessing no he wasn't uh
00:31:23.600 huh you know walking uh you know in the wrong place in ukraine huh uh he wasn't you know caught
00:31:30.180 up in a tsunami in japan dropped dead when a house fell on him no that's a good guess all right it's
00:31:36.260 actually much much much much worse than that okay so march 19th 2024 he uh he uh wound up actually
00:31:44.600 dying on the 27th but he was communicating with some people on march 19th and he was explaining
00:31:49.740 how he was going to die now you might say okay well i mean we kind of tease the sure assisted
00:31:55.280 suicide part of this you know he's got cancer he's got some debilitating disease it's just going to be
00:32:00.760 terrible it can't take the pain anymore whatever right that's not the case was it not the case no
00:32:05.820 in explanation professor commons included a letter that his friends would receive a few days later
00:32:11.120 quote i have believed since i was a teenager that the miseries and indignities of the last years of
00:32:17.080 life are superfluous and i'm acting on that belief i am still active still active enjoying many things
00:32:24.800 in life enjoying them except for the daily news and i will die a happy man okay but my kidneys are on
00:32:32.880 their last legs the frequency of mental lapses is increasing and i'm 90 years old it's time to go
00:32:39.500 end quote okay so he goes through an assisted suicide process here and kills himself
00:32:46.300 over the fact that he's occasionally having mental lapses but it still has a great life and and is
00:32:54.820 enjoying many things and going through life positively um can i stop you here yes
00:33:01.120 i am a torn on this stuff so badly are you yeah because the libertarian yeah because the libertarian
00:33:08.560 in me is like whatever dude your life uh however the god part of me says you're not god
00:33:15.180 you're not god uh life is sacred and you should be grateful for every second that you have yeah and
00:33:25.700 i think that's certainly where where i land on it because i as a person who's a libertarian i think
00:33:31.400 that's really only hitting your the legal part of this conversation yes right like you could sit
00:33:37.800 here and say well people should be able to kill themselves by the way they do it all the time and
00:33:42.000 you can't really stop them it's really hard right to stop them a lot of those circumstances very
00:33:45.340 tragic but it's really difficult to stop someone from jumping out of a building or jumping off a
00:33:48.820 bridge or injecting themselves with something or overdosing sure this happens sure especially
00:33:52.660 when the president says put ammonia right into your veins right how many people did that
00:33:57.160 immediately rushed out and injected bleach even though he didn't say that at all right um so
00:34:03.260 from a libertarian stance of course we would we would frown upon that decision but legally it's
00:34:09.480 difficult to stop people there's of course a different situation when you're talking about
00:34:12.800 having doctors assist you in that process you know what i really like is it harkens back to the old
00:34:17.700 timey germany days you know where the doctors are like they put a little bit of this in your vein
00:34:23.580 then you go sleepy sleep right uh you know it just it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside
00:34:28.380 and then you die and then you die so what i find fascinating about this is multiple things yeah
00:34:35.500 number one just the how we're just turning off what we used to believe was the sanctity of life
00:34:42.740 so hang on just a second isn't this the same guy or is there another guy that says that that said this
00:34:48.400 week about being just feeling useless that i don't really have a purpose anymore
00:34:51.820 hmm could be could be the same right uh and i thought hmm uh that's really you know that
00:34:57.480 that's not a reason to kill yourself uh you know you feel useless you feel like you don't have a
00:35:02.200 purpose you should find one you should find one uh because there is a purpose in life yeah and
00:35:07.300 that's kind of the goal is to find your purpose you know no matter what it is and if we're just
00:35:13.220 shutting ourselves off because there's you know i don't really feel like there's a purpose uh how many
00:35:17.100 of our teenagers feel that way right now and that's really awful yeah and by the way canada
00:35:23.060 will let you off yourself if you're a teenager and you feel like you know i just don't have any
00:35:26.880 purpose or will to live okay if you're feeling you know meh yeah if you hit the meh standard the
00:35:33.840 the official diagnosis has to be meh uh and it has to be met that has to be met by two doctors
00:35:39.940 two doctors i mean germany had three but canada's has only requiring two good job guys don't live up
00:35:46.720 to those nazi standards um there's one other detail to this that was revealed to me only after
00:35:52.300 i printed the article i want to i'm going to give you that in a second but listen to a little bit
00:35:55.440 more of this despite his advanced age this this person who wound up killing himself 90 was still
00:36:00.520 capable of research and writing and could still enlighten audiences on how to make better decisions
00:36:05.860 apart from his intellectual gifts he was healthy enough to participate in friendship and family
00:36:11.460 life why did none of this give him sufficient reason to continue to live the answer we believe
00:36:16.780 can be found toward the end of an interview we did with him he surprised us by denying that his work
00:36:22.160 had any objective significance other people happen to respect it and they say that it's for the benefit
00:36:28.280 of humanity but i just like to get up in the morning because i like the work we pushed back
00:36:33.120 arguing that there were objectively good things to do with one's life but he resisted i feel like i
00:36:38.760 live my life well he said but it's a feeling i'm just reasonably happy with what i've done i would say
00:36:44.520 that there's uh if there's an objective point of view then i'm totally irrelevant to it if you look at
00:36:49.140 the universe and the complexity of the universe what i do with my day cannot be relevant that's the
00:36:55.340 quote i was referring to oh okay that's the quote i was referring to yeah it can't be relevant i have
00:37:00.400 no relevancy really i was just with a i was just with a how was how old is trump 81 seriously how
00:37:07.180 old he's not that old he's in the 70s 79 yeah i mean he's almost 80 and the guy oddly you looked
00:37:13.060 older in the interview which was interesting shut up uh i felt older around him uh but the guy is like
00:37:19.780 i mean you want to find a purpose look at that guy 78 78 look at the purpose on that guy i mean i think
00:37:26.400 this is maybe the most important purpose of his entire life and he's done a lot yeah and he's done
00:37:31.680 a lot and your life has no meaning whatsoever you have to find it that that's that that's that's your
00:37:37.700 part of the deal god gives you life then you find out what the purpose is and you think about so many
00:37:42.860 younger people especially in we've talked about the jonathan height book several times yeah about this
00:37:48.320 sort of empty feeling that younger people have because everything is all about
00:37:53.280 buying stuff being famous all of the things empty that are empty they have no meaning you know you know
00:38:04.460 what gives you meaning and i know this sounds horrible work work it's not horrible to say that work
00:38:11.520 gives you is help is part of what gives you it is i don't like work i don't like it either i mean
00:38:16.180 gosh look at my resume i've been with you for a very long time i don't like it all work for me at
00:38:21.200 least uh i don't like it i don't like hard work hard but there is something about doing something
00:38:26.520 getting up every day this is something i say to myself he's like i don't know get your ass out of bed
00:38:34.200 make your bed go find something to do no matter how meaninglessly meaningless it is find meaning in
00:38:43.440 it by doing it well you're going to make a hamburger make the best damn hamburger anyone can make you will
00:38:50.820 come home beat to snot tired but you will find purpose in your life just by doing things that's that's
00:39:01.240 i mean i'm sorry that's just what has to be said boy am i getting to be that old where i'm like that
00:39:05.460 kind of old jumpy man just get off your ass and do something get a job get a job yeah i mean that is
00:39:13.780 crucial you'd like by the way uh david bonson's book it's called full-time work in the meaning of
00:39:18.980 life and that's exactly what the book's about is about it's true you do find purpose in this and
00:39:24.260 that's good you know my son and i we we went out i don't know a couple years ago and i i'm not a
00:39:30.000 and it's going to come as a surprise to you i mean because you look at me and you're like well that
00:39:33.360 is a he is a hard-working man uh i don't do a lot of manual labor never have you're kidding me but
00:39:39.620 you own a ranch what do you think there's a horse in the middle of our logo you're riding horses
00:39:44.760 around a big i do and i have people that saddle that horse bring that horse to me uh you know i go
00:39:51.780 i go up to farmers and i shake their hands and they're like what the hell i just i mean my wife's
00:39:56.380 hands aren't as soft as yours and i like i am worth a day in my life jack uh so but i don't i
00:40:02.960 manual labor don't like it avoid it like the plague always have but my son and i we went and we had to
00:40:10.020 go build fences you know uh you know on the ranch and then we we had to take down and we had to sand
00:40:18.320 uh these gates down and you know get all the rust off them and paint them everything it was the best
00:40:25.080 week either of us we worked so hard all the the whole time we would come in and we could just
00:40:34.160 barely sit at the table and eat and both of us look at those pictures of those times and go that
00:40:41.220 was fun we weren't thinking that at the time but it it there is something about that there is you know
00:40:48.760 it's it's like how everybody looks at their worst time of their life oh it's such a struggle man we
00:40:54.600 just barely but when you get past it you go back and you look at it and go like those were actually
00:41:00.780 good times those were good times wouldn't want to do they always say this wouldn't want to do them
00:41:04.640 again don't want to repeat them but those were good times why because that struggle you learned
00:41:11.120 something about yourself you you you were pushed into areas that you didn't you didn't know you even
00:41:18.620 had that's what gives you purpose that's what that's what teaches you is the hard things the hard work
00:41:27.520 the hard knocks all of this teaches us something and our society has rejected it 100 i don't want to do
00:41:35.620 that that sounds hard i don't want to i don't want to do that job that sounds hard i i gotta you're gonna
00:41:42.340 make me take a test that sounds hard i gotta do what no that sounds hard that connects directly to
00:41:48.560 what andrew cleveland was talking about yesterday at this time um you know he's talking about murders
00:41:53.340 he was taking positives out of murders because it turned into art and and all these incredible thought
00:41:57.780 correct uh experiments and and and ways that we learn and and evolved and you could you could find
00:42:04.720 it everywhere that's part of life right yeah it's what it's what will save us in the end should all of
00:42:10.280 this should all of this just come apart okay uh and i hope it doesn't but should the next four years
00:42:17.360 show that yep they gave it a college try and it just fell apart and uh we're in really bad times
00:42:24.420 what will what will be the difference will be those who choose to say this is going to be for our own
00:42:32.780 good good will come of this i don't know what shape i don't know how i have no idea because i'm
00:42:40.180 not god and i can't predict what's coming next but i know this will turn out to be good those people
00:42:47.780 will survive and they will be happy those who look at it and like everything's horrible and i can't do
00:42:54.580 anything and we just need help those people will destroy themselves and any opportunity to get out
00:43:01.180 very true um let me give you this last uh paragraph here uh professor kahneman signaled concern that he
00:43:11.220 did not end his if he did not end his life when he was clearly mentally competent he could lose
00:43:16.900 control over the remainder of it and live and die with needless miseries and indignities
00:43:23.400 one lesson to learn from his death is that if we are to live well to the end we need to be able
00:43:29.080 to freely discuss when a life is complete without shame or taboo such a discussion may help people
00:43:35.460 to know what they really want they may we may regret their decisions but we should respect their
00:43:41.040 choices and allow them to end their lives with dignity so i printed this story out so we could
00:43:46.880 talk about it on the air and i didn't notice this detail until i printed it out which was the author
00:43:52.040 of the story one of the two authors a name from the past glenn peter singer oh my god
00:43:59.420 is that guy still alive he's still he's still alive and has he thought about shortening his life
00:44:05.780 yes a lot apparently uh he has not taken that path quite yet uh peter singer a name that you may
00:44:13.080 remember uh we've talked about him a hundred million times going back many years a hundred million years
00:44:18.140 yeah if you're a long-term listener you'll remember his name he was the guy who advocated
00:44:21.640 for a period of 28 days after birth to be able to abort your child and he did apologize for that he did
00:44:31.140 he did apologize he said that wasn't long enough it should have up to two years he said until a child
00:44:36.620 can realize that there is a tomorrow they're not really a human right and so until they say to you
00:44:42.160 what are we gonna do tomorrow you can kill them that's honestly and by the way he was professor of
00:44:47.520 ethics maybe he still is chair of ethics at princeton university not just some guy no princeton
00:44:53.760 university and you can kill your child until they say what are we gonna do tomorrow dad
00:44:57.960 he said killing a newborn baby is never equivalent to killing a person now that might indicate that he
00:45:05.620 thinks that a newborn baby is not a person which is basically what he's saying that he's also saying
00:45:10.560 at the end you're not really a person yeah once you decide you're not a person you're not a person
00:45:14.740 and this is this is deep into left-wing thought here this is these are these are prominent
00:45:20.880 people who are discussing and by the way some of them acting on this way of thinking about life
00:45:27.420 which is it's really not much of value here's the scariest thing they're the people also that are
00:45:32.180 advising the biggest minds behind things like ai yeah these people talking to ai and setting the
00:45:39.860 priorities of ai and telling it what's what is life i mean this is these we're living in a hellscape
00:45:49.220 we really are we're living in a coming hellscape if we don't wake up pretty soon uh and we don't and
00:45:55.980 this president doesn't win and we don't finish the transition we don't seal this this this cave of
00:46:03.960 darkness back off you know we did that in 1945 it needs to be sealed off again we let it survive
00:46:11.680 because we said it was our ally and we let it survive and go into china and russia and uh we let
00:46:18.860 them we let them kill millions of people there and we we still play footsie with it and that's why that
00:46:23.980 cave opened back up and all that darkness has spilled back into our culture and we got to push it back
00:46:29.540 this is the this is this is your purpose pushing back on darkness so the light can prevail because
00:46:36.360 darkness is it's alive and it is pushing hard and we have to be stronger look we win all you have to
00:46:44.380 do is turn on the light and that dispels darkness have you even found your light yet turn it on push
00:46:55.080 the darkness back where it belongs claudia was leaving for her pickleball tournament i've been
00:47:03.660 visualizing my match all week she was so focused on visualizing that she didn't see the column behind
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00:47:15.700 auto service centers in the country everything was taken care of under one roof and she was on her
00:47:20.320 way in a rental car in no time i made it to my tournament and lost in the first round but you
00:47:26.140 got there on time intact insurance your auto service ace certain conditions apply