The Glenn Beck Program - July 19, 2023


Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Tom Fitton ｜ 7⧸19⧸23


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Judicial Watch's Tom Fitton joins Glenn Beck on the Glenn Beck Program to talk about yet another possible indictment of Donald Trump, this time in Washington D.C. and Michigan. Glenn and Tom discuss the latest in the ongoing saga of Trump's possible indictment and what it could mean for the 2020 election.

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00:01:10.160 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:01:24.800 Hello, America. As if that is your real name.
00:01:29.020 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
00:01:30.720 Tom Fitton is on with us from Judicial Watch to talk to us about yet another possible indictment on what is happening with Donald Trump.
00:01:40.160 If will is ever end. Tom, welcome.
00:01:45.060 Hi, Glenn. Good to be with you. Thank you.
00:01:48.540 So, first of all, I just have to say, you know, I've talked to you a million times and I've seen you several times,
00:01:53.080 but are you lifting now? Because you look like you could snap my neck with your fingers.
00:01:59.480 It's all AI generated.
00:02:01.940 Oh, is it? Yeah. Okay. Okay. So is my fatness.
00:02:04.580 All right. So yesterday they came out.
00:02:11.560 It looks like there may be another arrest of Donald Trump, another indictment.
00:02:16.480 Can you explain what is going on here and what is going on in Michigan as well, if you can?
00:02:22.480 Well, I think it's a coordinated Democratic Party operation to destroy the Republican Party using the awesome powers.
00:02:31.620 And I don't use the word awesome in a positive way, but powerful powers of the prosecutorial offices at the state and federal level to arrest their leadership.
00:02:43.220 I mean, that's what's going on in Michigan.
00:02:46.040 Electors are those who participated in disputed any election in Michigan, including Republican leaders.
00:02:52.740 I've been indicted, face the rest of their lives in jail, potentially.
00:02:56.280 What's going on here in Washington, D.C. is that the Jack Smith grand jury, after they indicted a move to push an indictment of Trump on the sham document issue,
00:03:11.460 is trying to prosecute him for, A, being president and questioning how federal elections were run,
00:03:19.940 and, B, being a candidate, exercising his rights into the First Amendment to dispute an election and figure out what legally could be done.
00:03:29.000 And maybe they're trying to tie it to the January 6th incident as well.
00:03:33.600 But, you know, I testified to that grand jury.
00:03:36.740 And I can tell you they spent a lot of time harassing me about First Amendment protected speech and electors and debates about that that were taking place.
00:03:46.000 And I remember thinking, you know, despite the harassment, the harassment is, why is all this being discussed in this context?
00:03:56.340 This is a federal grand jury, and we're talking politics.
00:04:00.020 We're talking party politics.
00:04:01.820 It was like being in a CNN interview for four hours.
00:04:06.200 And so it's no surprise, given their interest in partisan politics and debating me on the Constitution and federal election law,
00:04:18.400 that they would take the next step and abuse their office further to try to jail Trump before the election.
00:04:27.940 So what happens here?
00:04:31.140 Are they really trying to jail him?
00:04:34.840 Because you could still run for president in jail.
00:04:37.140 And I have to tell you, I think there would be a lot of people that would wear a T-shirt proudly of his mugshot with the numbers under his face
00:04:47.120 and just say, I voted for Trump.
00:04:51.160 I voted for prisoner 14009. 0.72
00:04:53.860 I mean, I think there's a lot of people that would do that because we see this as insanity and a banana republic. 0.90
00:05:04.340 Well, I mean, they're there in in the Miami case, which began in Washington, D.C.
00:05:09.500 They moved it down to Miami.
00:05:11.700 They were seeking a trial for December.
00:05:14.280 Now, the judge may put that off a little bit, but it may still occur during election time.
00:05:18.660 You know, they were planning to try to get him and get him prosecuted, finish the trial and get him jailed around the time the primaries began.
00:05:30.140 And now it's going to be potentially it looks like, you know, all the signals are there's going to be another arrest, an indictment of Trump.
00:05:37.200 I don't know how it's going to go here in D.C.
00:05:39.420 They have a much more anti-Trump judicial bench up here.
00:05:43.240 To me, all bets are off here in terms of the abuse of power and how far the Biden regime.
00:05:50.740 I don't you know, they officially became a regime, in my view, with the indictment of Trump, how far the Biden regime is willing to go.
00:05:57.200 And and, you know, as again, Democrat prosecutor in in in the state of Michigan, a key state, obviously, for any election,
00:06:06.120 has now just tried to arrest the Republican Party leadership or people close to him.
00:06:11.880 You know, most of whom seem to be in their 70s and 80s.
00:06:15.620 Yeah, this is this is.
00:06:17.480 And then on top of that, you have what's happening in New York City and Fulton County, Democrat prosecutor down there.
00:06:23.520 And, you know, my question is, Glenn, you know, we can talk about how outrageous this is and what's to be done about it.
00:06:30.120 Are Republicans in the House going to exercise all the powers they have under the Constitution to rein this in,
00:06:36.980 cut off funding to these local D.A.s and states that abuse the civil rights of their citizens, shut down the Jack Smith investigation, just defund it.
00:06:45.560 I mean, there there are things that can be done that they don't really want to talk about doing because, you know, they're they're, you know,
00:06:53.980 fear based leadership is their mantra.
00:06:58.100 Well, they better get over that quickly, because this is the last election that they will they will have a chance of winning ever again.
00:07:06.940 If they if they don't start moving mountains here and actually cutting off the purse strings to the things that they can do and use every tool at its disposal.
00:07:21.860 You know, they keep talking about Bob.
00:07:23.940 Well, we're thinking about contempt.
00:07:25.740 We're thinking about holding you.
00:07:27.160 OK, well, then hold them in contempt.
00:07:28.780 Stop thinking about it.
00:07:30.000 Hold them in contempt.
00:07:31.020 You know, the the White House, one of the first executive orders was to do an a government wide look and plan on how to register new voters.
00:07:46.400 And it was for every department in the government.
00:07:50.020 Congress has asked for that plan and said, can we see what you guys are doing?
00:07:54.780 They won't release it.
00:07:56.160 Well, let's stop thinking about holding you in contempt and actually putting your ass in jail if you don't do what the what the other branch is telling you to do, that we have a right to see this.
00:08:12.200 Show it to us.
00:08:14.120 I really am very concerned about the integrity of our election.
00:08:19.220 And if this stuff isn't stopped with Donald Trump, we just have we were turning into Venezuela.
00:08:27.940 That's right.
00:08:28.720 And I don't want you remember they're punishing folks for disputing the 2020 election.
00:08:33.220 What better way to ensure that doesn't happen again and that no one questions the 2024 election or really doesn't want to participate in it in any significant way?
00:08:45.260 Is to jail the political leadership of the of the of the party that challenged Biden.
00:08:52.340 You know, this is to me kind of a search and destroy mission against the Republican Party.
00:08:58.140 That grand jury, according to reports, is investigating Republican Party fundraising.
00:09:02.700 They've targeted state legislators, citizens involved in this alternative elector dispute before 2020, which happens virtually every election, every federal or presidential election.
00:09:16.340 There are disputes about electors.
00:09:18.240 It's it's what happens.
00:09:19.700 Usually Democrats do it. 1.00
00:09:21.840 But when Republicans do it, it's a different thing.
00:09:24.360 You know, and I testified to the grand jury about this.
00:09:26.940 And it's funny, they were kind of aghast when I said, you know, I was very worried in 2020 because Democrats were saying that they wanted to dispute the election and were willing to engage in succession by certain states unless the electoral college votes went their way.
00:09:43.800 They didn't seem interested in that seditious conspiracy, isn't that?
00:09:47.760 So they've got evidence, right?
00:09:49.300 I gave them evidence, the grand jury, that Democrats are planning civil unrest and civil war.
00:09:54.420 Did they bring in those folks responsible?
00:09:56.940 Oh, guess who was doing some of that planning?
00:09:59.360 John Podesta, who's currently in the Biden White House.
00:10:05.440 So, Tom, you get up in the morning.
00:10:08.340 You're lifting like, I don't know, Cadillacs.
00:10:11.580 And you're like, oh, I'm going to get into shape.
00:10:15.640 And you're thinking about what's going on.
00:10:20.680 Are you optimistic or pessimistic?
00:10:22.760 Well, as a Christian, I'm optimistic.
00:10:27.180 As a citizen, I'm a bit pessimistic because I kind of see our republic tottering.
00:10:32.640 And I'm fearful we'll lose it if it becomes the norm that the Justice Department can prosecute the former president and the number one candidate for president against the current president at the drop of a hat.
00:10:48.900 And if that becomes the norm, we're no different than Putin's Moscow and Xi's Beijing.
00:10:55.620 That's how you lose a republic when the Justice Department.
00:10:59.760 We've had political prosecutions in the past that are Justice Department.
00:11:02.760 We know that, you know, and abuses.
00:11:04.820 But nothing where it's been so brazen and naked and the veil's been lifted that you go to jail if you oppose us.
00:11:13.860 And you really have to go back to the early part of the last century under Woodrow Wilson to see anything comparable where they jailed all of his political opponents.
00:11:23.820 Here we didn't have the you know, but even then you didn't have the major party candidate jailed.
00:11:27.720 And this is what they want to do. They want to jail Trump before the election.
00:11:33.120 And and the idea that that would be happening in in in in America is something that will concern us, because if it happens, you have to wonder if we, quote, are America anymore.
00:11:47.140 Are we? I think we are very close on that line one way or another.
00:11:52.940 I don't know, but we're very close.
00:11:54.340 Tom, what is the thing that you you can instruct us to do?
00:12:00.680 What is it we can do?
00:12:02.760 I mean, I look at the 16 Republicans indicted, you know, in Michigan.
00:12:06.980 I mean, I would love to see a whole bunch of Republicans standing up in Michigan saying, hey, fine.
00:12:14.400 If that's what you're going to do, we've just doubled our size and we're taking those roles and we're involving ourselves.
00:12:22.060 You know, something that shows that you're not going to take one out without two replacing.
00:12:30.020 We have to be a hydra.
00:12:31.320 Well, certainly, the left is very concerned about elections in 2024 and them being, you know, they're willing to rig them again.
00:12:43.220 So they want to scare us off from participating in the election process.
00:12:47.580 And so no American should be frightened off by this.
00:12:49.860 I mean, if they value their country, they still have to take that risk and participate in the public policy process, certainly as it relates to elections.
00:12:58.640 We've got right now this kind of window in the House where they're figuring out what to do about funding.
00:13:04.760 Ask your member of Congress, what are you going to do to stop this?
00:13:08.020 And I don't want a report.
00:13:09.920 I don't want a hearing.
00:13:10.900 We know what's going on and you're funding it.
00:13:14.100 You're funding this this jailing of Trump.
00:13:17.220 You're funding this prosecution of citizens for exercising their First Amendment rights, which isn't just about free speech.
00:13:24.580 The other part of exercising your First Amendment rights means the right to petition your government.
00:13:30.020 And that's part of these election disputes.
00:13:33.000 And why is the why is the House going to fund this?
00:13:36.140 Are they going to continue to fund this?
00:13:38.100 Speaker McCarthy, you're going to shut it down.
00:13:39.980 He could shut down, technically, the Jack Smith investigation, just defund it.
00:13:44.700 Say no money being spent this year on prosecuting Trump or anything under Jack Smith's office, or maybe just shut it down in perpetuity.
00:13:55.440 Demand a special counsel.
00:13:57.200 Impeach Biden.
00:13:58.540 Escalate it in terms of this is important to the rule of law.
00:14:02.540 We see what you're doing, and we're going to do everything we can under the Constitution to stop, prevent, and hold you accountable.
00:14:09.980 Yeah, I just cannot sit here and tolerate the stories about the weaponization of government.
00:14:18.420 You know, we hear another one.
00:14:19.440 Here's another whistleblower.
00:14:20.900 What are you doing about it?
00:14:22.620 What are you doing about it?
00:14:24.820 We got it.
00:14:25.860 Tom Fitton, thank you so much.
00:14:27.140 Really appreciate it.
00:14:28.700 You're welcome, Glenn.
00:14:29.460 Thank you.
00:14:29.860 Bye-bye.
00:14:31.120 You bet.
00:14:31.440 Tom Fitton from JudicialWatch.org.
00:14:39.900 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:14:44.220 I read a story yesterday, I don't remember where, they were talking about how Tucker Carlson is just a fascist and pro-Putin and all of this garbage.
00:14:56.260 All of this garbage, and in case you don't know, I did a really great interview with him just last Friday after we had the Leadership Summit, which was fantastic.
00:15:08.600 And we sat on stage for about an hour, just the two of us, and we went back and forth on different things.
00:15:18.820 And I started talking to him about alcoholics.
00:15:24.160 Cut seven.
00:15:24.780 People who've been forced to face their own failings and realize the central insight of life and the root of all wisdom, which is, I am not God.
00:15:35.600 Yes.
00:15:36.220 You know, you don't have to have a specific theology to realize that.
00:15:39.920 You just have to be honest and aware and willing to face it.
00:15:43.720 I am not God.
00:15:44.520 And you definitely learn that.
00:15:45.860 If you drink too much, if you party too much, as I did, like, there's no pretense.
00:15:49.880 It's like, well, actually, I kind of think I'm God.
00:15:53.040 No.
00:15:53.400 And that's a really good thing to learn.
00:15:55.760 And I trust people like that.
00:15:56.740 And it doesn't even have to be former drinkers or drug people.
00:15:59.760 No, it's just people who have.
00:16:00.720 Yeah, anyone who's been, whenever I know someone who's gone to prison, I always try to have a party for the person when he gets out, even if it's, like, a bad crime, because they're always improved by it.
00:16:10.880 Like, Jack Abramoff went to prison.
00:16:12.660 I didn't even know him that well, but he got out.
00:16:14.940 I'm not a lobbyist.
00:16:15.640 I'm not in his business.
00:16:16.580 I had a huge party for him at my house.
00:16:17.780 My neighbors were outraged.
00:16:18.900 How can you have Jack Abramoff?
00:16:20.160 And I was like, he went to prison.
00:16:21.660 Like, he's out.
00:16:22.280 Like, I now respect him, because he can no longer pose as a good person.
00:16:28.300 And that is exactly where I am.
00:16:29.920 I'm not pretending to be a good person.
00:16:31.060 I just painted a painting of Johnny Cash in jail, his mugshot.
00:16:38.040 The best.
00:16:38.460 And I called it best day of his life.
00:16:42.100 And people were just looking at it.
00:16:43.920 I was just at an art gallery, and they were just looking, and they said, best day of his life.
00:16:47.940 And I said, oh, everything's sunshine and lollipops after there.
00:16:52.560 This broke him.
00:16:54.120 Yes.
00:16:54.360 So now he's humble enough.
00:16:56.580 Everything.
00:16:57.260 He will look back, and I'm sure he did, look back on that moment as, thank God that happened.
00:17:02.400 I agree with that.
00:17:03.420 Thank God.
00:17:03.880 I really would recommend, in a much more low-grade way, getting fired.
00:17:06.940 It's good for a man to be fired once.
00:17:08.120 It is.
00:17:08.720 It is.
00:17:09.220 Because you can really start, especially if you're in the talking business, you can wake
00:17:12.640 up and be like, it's possible I'm Jesus.
00:17:15.300 Yeah.
00:17:15.900 And you start thinking that?
00:17:17.480 Yeah.
00:17:17.780 It's not good.
00:17:18.480 And so getting fired and being humiliated and having people avert their gaze when you walk
00:17:22.480 into the restaurant.
00:17:22.780 You don't learn anything.
00:17:23.680 You learn some things when you're wildly successful.
00:17:27.560 I never learned anything.
00:17:28.560 But when you're broken, then you hate it when it happens, but you always look back and go,
00:17:35.380 best years of life.
00:17:35.940 No, this time when it happens, the third time it's happened to me, my wife was like, first
00:17:39.720 of all, I'm psyched.
00:17:40.440 She was psyched.
00:17:41.460 So that's good.
00:17:42.840 She's not taking off like, oh, me and the pool boy are out of here.
00:17:46.240 It wasn't like that at all.
00:17:47.720 But I was immediately thankful for it.
00:17:50.720 I was like, this is going to be good.
00:17:51.540 Because if this had continued, oh, you're so important.
00:17:54.680 At some point, I'd be like, you know, I really am.
00:17:58.440 That's a great interview.
00:18:00.360 I mean, that's a great part of that interview.
00:18:02.280 It's such a great perspective.
00:18:03.700 And you could tell he's the guy who's in the middle of going through this.
00:18:06.720 This is not a retrospective interview where like, I remember when I was fired in 2018.
00:18:11.400 This is like, he's in the middle of going through this.
00:18:14.420 And it's a great perspective to have.
00:18:16.660 And I remember, I've told the story before, the last night before I went into Roger Ailes,
00:18:22.380 you know, I had been with Bono and everything.
00:18:25.780 I was like a cool kid for the first time.
00:18:28.280 And I walked in and I said, honey, how can this be God's plan that I would leave?
00:18:34.460 Look at where we're the pinnacle of my career.
00:18:38.120 And we're going to have access and everything else.
00:18:40.140 And she luckily said, I'm going to bed.
00:18:43.560 And then I stood there at the window.
00:18:48.200 And I remember almost an audible voice.
00:18:51.160 If you don't leave now, you're not going to leave with your soul.
00:18:53.740 And I know that to be true because, as he said, there's times where you can begin to feel like, dig me.
00:19:01.780 Look at me.
00:19:02.860 Look at the mountains I can move.
00:19:06.520 And it's dangerous.
00:19:10.300 That's why this Pride Month stuff bothers me so much. 0.93
00:19:13.200 It had nothing to do with the homosexuality.
00:19:15.000 Just the word pride.
00:19:17.140 We need humility.
00:19:19.340 We need much more humility, not pride.
00:19:22.220 And I told you last week, if you haven't heard this interview, you need to hear it.
00:19:26.600 It's at blazetv.com.
00:19:28.760 You can sign up for a subscription.
00:19:33.180 Use the word summit and you'll save $30 off code word summit.
00:19:38.620 I have to tell you, I think God is, well, I don't even want to say think.
00:19:51.800 I know God is doing something with Tucker Carlson.
00:19:56.760 He is on fire.
00:19:59.720 On fire right now.
00:20:02.200 Something big is coming with Tucker Carlson.
00:20:04.620 And it is going to be fun to watch.
00:20:09.960 Listen to him talk about God and reading the book of Revelation.
00:20:15.080 Do you think there's a chance, and I know people say this all the time, forever they've said this.
00:20:20.420 But do you think there's a chance that we are living in the times when we'll see Christ return in our life?
00:20:28.380 You know, people, we live in Maine for half the year or more than half the year.
00:20:32.840 And I work out of a barn in our tiny little town, which some local newspaper, like, ran a picture of it.
00:20:38.440 So I have people at the barn every day.
00:20:39.800 And I would say when I'm, like, sitting in there in my box or smoking a cigar, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
00:20:44.080 And I always, I'm dumb enough to answer the door.
00:20:47.160 And I would say 100% of the time it's someone there to tell me about the end times.
00:20:51.320 And I always say the same thing, which is I totally believe that's happening.
00:20:54.840 I think that history does have an end.
00:20:57.080 Okay?
00:20:57.280 It's not a loop.
00:20:58.280 It's a progression.
00:20:59.080 It's linear.
00:20:59.740 I believe that.
00:21:00.520 I know that intuitively, and I believe it as a matter of faith.
00:21:02.680 So I do think there's an end at some point.
00:21:03.920 But for me to presume, to call it, to know when it's coming, are you joking?
00:21:11.420 Like, the number one sin is presuming you have powers that you don't.
00:21:14.780 To put yourself in the position of the creator, to pretend you're God, to mistake yourself for the almighty.
00:21:20.080 And for me to say, well, you know, I'm pretty sure the end times are, really?
00:21:24.560 Yeah, I'm not.
00:21:25.280 Like a thief in the night.
00:21:26.700 Right.
00:21:26.900 You don't know.
00:21:28.200 So, like, you know, sure, it looks that way to me.
00:21:31.420 But what do I know?
00:21:32.360 I thought Lee Zeldin was going to be governor of New York.
00:21:34.860 I'm not good at predicting.
00:21:36.400 But I think that, well, no man will know.
00:21:39.640 I totally agree.
00:21:40.600 And I'm not saying that he is coming.
00:21:42.180 I'm not saying that.
00:21:43.940 But he did give us all of these clues to watch for.
00:21:48.100 And I think it's to give us hope.
00:21:50.500 When I actually started to think, because I've been doing this for a while, where my world gets very dark.
00:21:57.100 And as I...
00:21:58.040 Are you Scandinavian?
00:21:59.840 No.
00:22:00.400 You must be.
00:22:00.960 And I'm looking at all of this, and my wife and I started really seriously considering just, you know, everybody.
00:22:11.360 The apostles did this.
00:22:12.640 I think it could happen.
00:22:13.800 I think it could happen.
00:22:14.680 And I found myself going, wow, that would be really cool.
00:22:19.040 What an honor if it did happen to live at this time.
00:22:22.260 And I think he gave us some of these signs, not to say, buckle up, here we go, the ride's going.
00:22:29.440 He gave us, though, to say, when I come, you'll see these things.
00:22:35.060 Have hope.
00:22:35.940 It's going to be difficult.
00:22:37.700 But I'm coming.
00:22:39.760 And so it all works out.
00:22:41.080 I got you.
00:22:42.180 That's, I think that's the message that so many people are missing right now.
00:22:45.600 Well, I believe that.
00:22:46.480 I would just say two things.
00:22:47.100 God saying, I got you.
00:22:47.940 One, I mean, no mainline Protestant church that I'm aware of allows its members to read Revelation.
00:22:55.300 Like, you're not allowed to do that.
00:22:56.080 You've got to be like a full-on snake handling fundie to read that stuff.
00:22:59.200 And so I'd never seen it, you know.
00:23:01.160 I hadn't.
00:23:01.640 Not that I was biblically literate in any way.
00:23:03.700 Wow.
00:23:04.020 But I just read it.
00:23:05.860 I read it last month.
00:23:08.020 And my wife's like, ooh, that's a scary one. 1.00
00:23:11.260 And it was pretty heavy.
00:23:12.520 But, like, I didn't find it scary at all.
00:23:13.720 So that's the first thing.
00:23:14.480 Like, it's actually worth kind of reading it.
00:23:17.120 It's a slog, but it's super interesting.
00:23:19.340 And I didn't find it scary.
00:23:20.340 That's the first thing.
00:23:20.980 Second thing I would say is I have no idea, no freaking clue, as we say in Maine, what's going on right now.
00:23:27.440 But I will say that my personal relationships with the people that I love and know have never been crisper and deeper and more rewarding to me.
00:23:37.260 I've never felt more connected to the people around me.
00:23:39.960 I've never felt more satisfied with my relationships.
00:23:42.780 I have lost a lot of friendships because of political turmoil, but I've gained new ones that are even more rewarding.
00:23:47.640 And I just feel like there's all this chaos and all this sadness and everyone's so sad about it.
00:23:52.940 But if you look at your own life and assess your own relationships, are they better and deeper and more honest?
00:23:58.460 You may find that they are.
00:24:02.540 He has great insight.
00:24:05.620 And as I was listening to him, I thought of Paul Harvey.
00:24:09.140 Paul Harvey was a broadcaster years ago, somebody I used to listen to growing up.
00:24:13.720 He was one of the inspirations for me getting into radio.
00:24:16.680 And he would give the news reports.
00:24:21.240 And I remember him saying, the media, the media doesn't know if it's telling you the truth or not.
00:24:37.560 The media lives in a bubble.
00:24:41.900 You want to fix it.
00:24:43.340 Relocate them all over the country.
00:24:51.820 I have to tell you, as I'm listening to Tucker on that last particular thing,
00:25:00.220 the reason why he doesn't sound like he's one of the voices in the media is he's not living in New York or Los Angeles.
00:25:11.640 He's living amongst real people in a very small town.
00:25:17.500 I'm coming to you now from a town of about 450.
00:25:21.280 There is this America that still exists in these small towns all over the country.
00:25:30.880 And we forget about them.
00:25:33.300 But then when you see somebody like Tucker, you're like, oh, that's why he makes so much sense.
00:25:43.120 He hasn't bought into all of the bull crap.
00:25:48.080 By the way, you don't want to miss this whole podcast.
00:25:50.900 It is one-on-one with Tucker Carlson.
00:25:53.920 It is really, really fascinating.
00:25:57.420 I did it just last Friday.
00:25:59.380 You can find it at blazetv.com slash Glenn.
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00:26:13.880 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:26:16.720 Well, Stu, I'm still looking at the wonderful, wonderful world of the New York Times and still
00:26:30.440 trying to figure out an article that we started on yesterday.
00:26:35.040 But I would like to come back to it and read it to you and help me figure out, is Donald Trump
00:26:43.320 the most evil, wicked man ever?
00:26:48.040 New York Times story?
00:26:49.700 Is he shooting?
00:26:50.680 Yeah.
00:26:51.400 Or is he shooting to be the president?
00:26:53.400 I know.
00:26:54.000 Okay.
00:26:54.300 Well, this story was written by a schizophrenic.
00:26:59.100 Okay.
00:26:59.300 Which, hey, beautiful schizophrenics.
00:27:03.360 I endorse them.
00:27:04.720 I'm around, you know, schizophrenics whenever I can be.
00:27:10.100 Some of my best friends could be schizophrenics.
00:27:13.240 Well, they're wonderful and stop condemning them.
00:27:15.620 Thank you for saying that during Schizophrenic Pride Month, which, of course, is July and
00:27:20.880 August and also September and March.
00:27:24.060 Correct.
00:27:24.600 Well, if you're a schizophrenic.
00:27:26.760 All right.
00:27:27.680 Here we go.
00:27:28.400 From the New York Times, Donald J.
00:27:30.140 Trump and his allies are planning a sweeping expansion of presidential power over the machinery
00:27:37.460 of government if voters return him to the White House in 2025, restructuring and reshaping
00:27:45.420 the structure of the executive branch to concentrate far greater authority directly in his hands.
00:27:55.600 Wow, that sounds bad.
00:27:56.680 But I'm already a little jittery.
00:27:59.320 I'm like, oh, my gosh.
00:28:00.360 I've seen this movie before.
00:28:01.320 I believe the emperor says he's going to take control and they say this is how liberty dies
00:28:07.040 with thunderous applause.
00:28:08.580 This is the he's the emperor essentially in the story already.
00:28:11.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:14.440 Their plans to centralize more power in the Oval Office stretch far beyond the former president's
00:28:21.900 recent remarks that he would order a criminal investigation into his political rival, President Biden.
00:28:28.780 Yeah, because that was crazy.
00:28:30.240 You imagine a president saying, hey, we should investigate my rival.
00:28:36.920 Oh, what a totalitarian fascist.
00:28:41.200 Literally no self-awareness whatsoever.
00:28:43.380 Like, how could that not be the next line?
00:28:46.700 Now, obviously, some would note that this is currently going on with the other party.
00:28:52.240 None of that's even mentioned.
00:28:54.820 Well, they say this signals his intent to end the post-Watergate norm of Justice Department
00:29:01.820 independence from the White House.
00:29:04.120 Mr. Trump and his associates have a broader goal to alter the balance of power by increasing
00:29:13.660 the president's authority over every part of the federal government that now operates,
00:29:19.800 either by law or tradition, with any measure of independence from political interference
00:29:25.520 by the White House, according to a review of his campaign policy proposals and interviews
00:29:30.600 with people close to him.
00:29:32.640 Mr. Trump intends to bring independent agencies like the Federal Communications Commission,
00:29:41.380 which makes and enforces the rules for television and Internet companies, or the Federal Trade
00:29:46.680 Commission, which enforces various antitrust and other consumer protection rules against business
00:29:52.240 under direct presidential control.
00:29:55.700 He wants to revive a practice of impounding funds, refusing to spend money Congress has
00:30:02.420 already appropriated for programs a president doesn't like, a tactic that lawmakers banned
00:30:09.100 under Richard Nixon.
00:30:10.700 He intends to strip employment protection from the tens of thousands of career
00:30:17.380 civil servants, making it easier to replace them if they're deemed obstacles to his agenda.
00:30:24.260 And he plans to scour the intelligence agencies, the State Department and the defense
00:30:30.940 and the defense bureaucracies to remove officials he has vilified as the sick political class that hates our country.
00:30:41.420 So let me see if I have this right.
00:30:43.100 The Congress makes laws and okay spending.
00:30:49.900 Is that right, Stu?
00:30:51.020 Mm-hmm.
00:30:51.440 Yep.
00:30:52.400 Okay.
00:30:54.080 They, along with the president, have the power to declare war.
00:30:58.580 Mm-hmm.
00:30:59.940 Uh-huh.
00:31:00.780 Okay.
00:31:01.520 So I got them down.
00:31:02.960 Now, you go to the second branch, and that branch is the presidential branch, and that branch
00:31:12.180 is the one that is supposed to just be a kind of almost a rubber stamp on, hey, you can't
00:31:23.440 do that.
00:31:24.000 I don't think this is constitutional, therefore I will veto it.
00:31:27.420 And if it's not overridden in the Congress, then it would have to go to the Supreme Court.
00:31:35.120 But before we leave the second branch, the second branch is also in charge of, like, foreign
00:31:41.240 entanglements and our State Department.
00:31:44.760 So the State Department works for the president.
00:31:50.200 That's why we don't elect the head of the State Department. 0.93
00:31:53.420 We have to have the president appoint these people, like the head of justice or the head
00:32:00.340 of the State Department or the head of the Pentagon, et cetera, et cetera.
00:32:06.300 He appoints those people because they're in something, and I don't think it's very nice.
00:32:13.160 I don't know how big these cabinets are, but putting full-size people into cabinets is not
00:32:18.180 very nice.
00:32:19.360 Those people are on what they claim is a cabinet.
00:32:24.540 And the president meets with, and I'm quoting, his cabinet to outline where the federal government
00:32:34.980 with the agencies are supposed to go.
00:32:37.540 Now, they say that he's wanting to fire people that are in the agencies that are under the direct
00:32:51.520 control of the president, and he doesn't have the right to do that.
00:32:57.840 And I'm trying to think, if you were, if you were a boss, and you hired everybody, and you
00:33:10.980 wanted them to do one thing, and then all of them said, no, we're going to go and do this
00:33:17.040 other thing, and we'll actually undermine the stuff that you want.
00:33:21.240 And that boss couldn't fire anyone.
00:33:27.000 Is he really the boss?
00:33:29.940 Is he really the boss?
00:33:31.780 Who is the boss?
00:33:33.420 Because Congress has no place over a cabinet.
00:33:37.440 It's not in the Constitution.
00:33:39.020 The only one that does is the president.
00:33:41.840 And if the president can't hire, fire, set policy, say, we're not doing this, we are doing this,
00:33:46.820 then who do they work for?
00:33:53.580 I mean, a veritable civics lesson we've just received here from you, Glenn.
00:33:59.900 And I think the answer to this question, of course, is not one that the New York Times wants
00:34:05.060 you to think about, right?
00:34:07.020 That's correct.
00:34:08.040 This is sort of the goal.
00:34:09.980 I mean, like, they can say that it's this massive expansion.
00:34:12.280 And honestly, like, I wouldn't be surprised if that's how Trump pitches it to voters,
00:34:17.020 too, right?
00:34:18.020 Like, I think he wants Republican voters in the primary, especially, to think, hey, you
00:34:24.120 know, we're not going to put up with this stuff anymore.
00:34:26.040 I'm going to start taking the reins, and we're going to make sure, you know, stuff is done.
00:34:32.220 We're not going to sit here behind the deep state and get rolled over again.
00:34:36.480 We're not going to let that happen to us again.
00:34:38.740 I think that's his pitch.
00:34:39.820 It's Vivek's pitch as well.
00:34:41.400 I mean, you've heard him.
00:34:42.560 He made that pitch to you in an interview right after his appearance on stage the other
00:34:46.420 day in Iowa.
00:34:48.000 I don't think that this is something that Republican voters right now dislike all that much.
00:34:54.160 And especially when the New York Times pitches it as evil, they're going to like it even more.
00:34:57.960 Yeah.
00:34:58.540 I have to tell you, I mean, I don't like the idea of any president saying I'm going to expand
00:35:05.880 the powers of the presidency.
00:35:07.980 But I don't think that's what this is.
00:35:10.200 This is a take control of the agencies that are completely out of control.
00:35:15.700 If they're not monitored by the president and able to be course corrected by the president
00:35:21.440 and Congress doesn't have anything to say about the laws that they make, Congress is supposed
00:35:29.220 to make the laws, not these agencies.
00:35:30.960 But they're just making up laws now.
00:35:34.000 Then then you have a rogue agency or agencies that are actually running the country and they
00:35:41.980 are not accountable to anyone.
00:35:44.340 That can't happen.
00:35:46.380 That's one of the biggest problems we have in America.
00:35:49.420 The Congress did not want to take it on the chin and make hard decisions.
00:35:53.320 And so the president said, well, I've got the EPA here.
00:35:57.500 We'll just we'll do it through the EPA.
00:36:00.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:01.160 You do it through the EPA.
00:36:03.000 So now you have these these organizations, all of them with all kinds of power that was
00:36:09.920 never intended because they write the rules themselves and are held accountable to no one.
00:36:16.160 Right.
00:36:16.280 This is what they say in their article by law or tradition.
00:36:19.500 Right.
00:36:20.580 I mean, like the Constitution is quite clear as to who should have this power, but by tradition
00:36:25.720 and also by some laws that I do not like, they have assigned that power to, you know,
00:36:35.120 in all sorts of different places.
00:36:36.900 If the Congress were to reclaim that power, would that be an expansion of their power?
00:36:40.660 I mean, I would argue, no.
00:36:42.360 You know, the RAINS Act is specifically designed to be able to take that power back.
00:36:46.400 And it's something that we should definitely pass.
00:36:48.240 But that's not an expansion of power.
00:36:51.040 And that's why they just leave the RAINS Act out.
00:36:54.280 They don't even talk about the RAINS Act because it is from where they are an expansion of power.
00:37:01.240 But because of the progressive use of the presidency and all of the agencies, they don't want to talk about that.
00:37:11.460 They were happy that that power went to the agencies because they could get things done in the dark of the night.
00:37:16.620 Nobody even knew.
00:37:18.680 And so they don't want to explain all of that.
00:37:21.960 So they don't explain the RAINS Act, because I think people would be in favor of Congress having to pass the laws.
00:37:30.240 So these things just aren't flipped overnight.
00:37:32.660 You know what?
00:37:33.120 I think everyone named Sally, I think she should now be named Olive.
00:37:49.880 So all Sallies are Olive. 0.99
00:37:52.520 You'd be like, wait, what?
00:37:54.280 No, we have the power to do that.
00:37:56.660 We're in the, you know, human resources and human something, health and human or something.
00:38:03.360 I don't know what it is.
00:38:04.520 But we have the ability to change names and they just run with it.
00:38:10.000 That ability has got to go away.
00:38:12.000 And I'm sorry, New York Times, but your fear mongering doesn't work.
00:38:17.460 I really want to hear from Donald Trump where he says, I know what the limits are, but these agencies need to become under control.
00:38:27.260 And I want to abolish a lot of them or fire a lot of the people and not refill those seats.