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00:03:17.860 All right, so in Politico yesterday, an ex-girlfriend of Graham Plattner alleged that the Marine Senate hopeful broke into her home and raped her about five years ago.

00:03:34.780 Well, that was a dark period.

00:03:37.780 She came forward to Politico recalling the alleged rape in graphic detail and providing cooperation.

00:03:46.300 and she's done this before she did this to the New York Times but the New York Times downplayed

00:03:52.060 it she felt she really after seeing what was happening in the New York Times and how the

00:03:57.680 New York Times handled her but also the other woman who came out and said the same thing and

00:04:04.440 how the New York Times handled this she said she needed to take one more stab at it and so she did

00:04:10.460 um now everybody is starting to jump ship on this guy i i want to start with

00:04:17.900 you know let me go to the story first because i really want you to feel this story it was late

00:04:27.980 2021 in maine woman at home at night man she's dated on and off nothing serious the kind of

00:04:35.420 thing that fades. He, he says, Hey, I want to come in. He's hammered like blackout, drunk,

00:04:41.360 hammered, lets himself into her house. He's drunk. She says, stop, stop. He doesn't. She

00:04:49.120 kind of wrestles him away. She runs into the bedroom, closes the door. He comes into the

00:04:55.600 bedroom and she said, and that's where he raped me. She kept saying, stop, stop, stop. 0.99

00:05:02.120 uh she said you know there is this single moment uh she'll say years later where the thought

00:05:09.420 finally formed in her mind there's this is no longer my choice he might kill me just

00:05:15.460 stop fighting he did now that's the accusation he says no no no that wasn't

00:05:22.820 uh-huh Graham Plattner is the guy and until this morning he was the Democratic Party's nominee for

00:05:29.340 the United States Senate. He's an oyster farmer. He's a Marine, a working-class outsider who was

00:05:36.140 going to retire Susan Collins and stick a thumb in the eye of everybody he called an oligarchy.

00:05:41.720 He denies this. He says it is false, categorically untrue, time to the ballot deadline. I'm going

00:05:47.700 to get to that here in a second. He denies it. That's important. But I also want to tell you

00:05:55.740 The denial is not part of the story.

00:05:57.940 It's not the story, at least.

00:05:59.780 The story is the year that came before this denial.

00:06:04.060 Because this morning, the moment the allegation hit,

00:06:07.080 the people who built him began quietly and all at once

00:06:13.160 to set him down and walk away.

00:06:15.960 And the endorsements peeled off by the hour.

00:06:18.520 And I want you to notice when they left.

00:06:20.980 Not a year ago.

00:06:23.180 Now.

00:06:25.740 Let me show you the file on this guy. Not the assault allegation. Set that aside. Unproven. Denied. You know, everything else. Everything else that was known about this guy, the tattoo on his chest. It's a death head. A specific one. The SS wore on the caps of men who ran the death camps. He said, I didn't know. Honestly, guys, you'll relate to this. I don't know if women can relate to this.

00:06:52.760 do you know a single guy who would have that tattoo and wouldn't know guys are fascinated by

00:06:58.560 old nazi movies and documentaries been watching them for our whole lives you didn't know

00:07:04.980 then an old acquaintance surfaced who remembered him showing it off years earlier and calling it

00:07:12.200 uh something he had pride with he said my token cough uh that means you know exactly what it was

00:07:20.480 but he covered it with a Celtic knot and then he moved on. Then there were his own words,

00:07:29.040 written and deleted, telling women who had been assaulted to take some responsibility and to act

00:07:35.620 like an adult. There were the messages he sent to women who were not his wife. He just married a

00:07:43.100 few months before. Then there were three former girlfriends describing something volatile. One of

00:07:49.600 them said that he had physically held her down. He denied that one too. He called himself in his

00:07:56.120 own defense, far from a perfect boyfriend. And he blamed a dark period. Oh, it was a dark period.

00:08:02.900 You know, I've had dark periods in my life. I've never beaten a woman or raped her. I've never

00:08:06.800 held a woman down. Anyway, every single time the men who had staked their names on him looked at

00:08:15.260 the file and made the same calculation he went through a dark period and he's not the only one

00:08:20.760 he's not the only one you know there might be one or two important issues here one of his defenders

00:08:26.840 sneered the critics only wanted only perfect candidates off the harvard law conveyor belt

00:08:32.360 as if an objection to a nazi tattoo and a trail of frightened ex-girlfriends were just a matter

00:08:39.880 of etiquette as if character were a luxury for people who you know could afford to lose

00:08:46.240 they all could read the file everyone could read the file it was sitting open on the table the

00:08:52.820 whole time they chose not to read it because they needed to win because he he might be able to beat

00:09:01.560 Collins because he could stop them them being whoever they need to be stopped at the time

00:09:07.380 And when the goal is big enough and the enemy is frightening enough, a man will hold a document in his hands and decide, yeah, I'm going to put this down for a minute because I don't need to look in that document folder.

00:09:25.020 That is the whole machinery, and we've talked about it for months, of ends justify the means.

00:09:30.160 It's not the people.

00:09:32.780 It's not that people don't see.

00:09:34.780 People do see it.

00:09:35.860 they see it and they price it in they look at the warning and they weigh it against the prize

00:09:43.120 and the prize is so big and so heavy so the warning gets rounded down to nothing to a dark

00:09:49.280 period to a mistake we've all made are you perfect to one or two less important issues i'm not hiring

00:09:56.160 the pope now watch them leave not because something finally became wrong it was wrong a year ago in

00:10:04.860 plain sight. It's leave. They're leaving now because it finally became fatal. And I'm going

00:10:10.160 to get to why is it fatal now? So, you know, this is not conscience arriving late. This is all

00:10:17.880 arithmetic. The number changed. The answer changed. They were never doing moral math. They were doing

00:10:25.560 electoral math and calling it principle. And the two happened to point the same direction until

00:10:32.220 today when it no longer points in the same direction so now where are you because this

00:10:41.420 was never a story about the senate seat in maine and if you let it stay one you're going to miss

00:10:46.640 the entire thing this is a story about the file that you keep what does that mean glenn

00:10:57.460 every one of us runs an opposition research on the people we want to believe in

00:11:03.320 and when the folder turns up something that we don't like we bury it ourselves we all do it

00:11:10.240 we become the campaign bearing its own file because the alternative is giving up something

00:11:18.440 we've already decided we are going to have at every single one of these turns the same voice

00:11:25.460 this is a smear this is out of state operatives they're they're threatened by us they hate us

00:11:31.560 don't listen to them i have to point out because i want you to hear at least part of that again

00:11:40.860 i i want you to uh i want you to know we've heard this ourselves on our own side

00:11:47.940 but i want you to listen to this again here not as politics i want you to hear it as marriage

00:11:54.380 because that is exactly word for word what an abuser says.

00:11:59.840 Your friends are jealous.

00:12:01.800 Your family never liked me.

00:12:03.820 They're threatened by what we have.

00:12:06.020 Our love is special.

00:12:07.560 They want to take this from you.

00:12:09.540 Don't listen to them.

00:12:11.000 Listen to me.

00:12:12.700 You know the truth.

00:12:14.660 And the terrible genius of it is that the more warning signs pile up,

00:12:19.620 the harder the target clings.

00:12:21.480 and not despite the red flags but because of them and it might be because now she's too far in to

00:12:29.860 admit you know that everybody around her was right the whole time see this is the pattern

00:12:35.960 that's the next pattern i told you that we would look for once you see the shape of it you'll see

00:12:41.900 it absolutely everywhere it always runs exactly the same way it starts with the love bombing

00:12:48.400 you I chose you I serve you you're special you know no one has ever understood you and your

00:12:57.720 problems yeah people really have been bad to you right I get it I get it but we're gonna go

00:13:05.600 someplace we're gonna do some things the world has never seen before because I'm tired of them

00:13:11.780 abusing you the largest movement in the history of main politics then the first violation it's

00:13:24.540 small and you let it go because everybody's imperfect i mean and look at how good this

00:13:30.160 is going to be look at what we already built then a bigger one but now you've got things invested

00:13:36.500 so you explain it away then the isolation he goes to work on the people you love one by one because

00:13:45.800 they're still able to see things clearly and clarity is the enemy he needs you surrounded

00:13:52.680 by him and his friends so only his voice is the voice left in the room and by the time the big

00:13:59.380 one lands the one you can't explain you're so deep it just doesn't even feel like you're ever

00:14:05.780 going to be able to escape it feels like humiliation i defended you to everyone i gave a

00:14:13.680 year of my life if i walk out now what what does that make me and so you stay and you tell yourself

00:14:25.240 the excuse pick your excuse they're all interchangeable too much invested too far gone

00:14:31.760 too embarrassing to admit he's going to change something's going to change it'll be worth it in

00:14:37.860 the end i'll be the one who saves it nobody in an abusive relationship believes they're in an

00:14:45.880 abusive relationship they believe they're in a hard relationship that they alone are strong

00:14:51.700 enough to fix that somehow or another it's going to change and the lies don't shrink

00:14:57.220 watch this because this is the tell here in a healthy thing when you get caught the offense

00:15:04.700 gets smaller over time because you're actually correcting it in an abusive thing the lies get

00:15:12.120 bigger and they get more destructive to your life outside of his world your job becomes affected

00:15:19.100 your money, your family, your name, because your world outside of him is competition

00:15:26.200 and it has to be burned down until he's all you've got left. Does any of this ring true

00:15:33.920 with politics at all? And he keeps saying, it's them, it's them. And if you spot a problem,

00:15:40.720 he says, I'm going to change. And it never changes. It only ever escalates.

00:15:45.020 that's not a bug in the pattern that is the pattern and at the end of the road

00:15:53.540 there's a word for what you have found yourself in and the word is cult it's not a metaphor

00:16:03.820 a cult is just an abusive relationship scaled up to fill a crowd okay same isolation same

00:16:13.060 enemies list same leader who's the only source of truth notice that the only source of truth

00:16:19.780 same members who have sunk so much of themselves that walking away would mean their whole life was

00:16:28.220 a lie and that person is going to defend that lie a lot longer than they'll defend the truth

00:16:36.300 because the truth doesn't cost them anything,

00:16:38.820 and the lie costs them everything.

00:16:48.700 There's got to be somebody within the sound of my voice

00:16:51.020 who is listening who are just thinking four words right now.

00:16:56.060 Yeah, but Donald Trump.

00:17:00.920 That's how this becomes inevitable, and let me explain,

00:17:03.760 because you need to know the lesson from all of this.

00:17:10.460 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program,

00:17:12.340 and we really want to thank you for listening.

00:17:15.400 All right, I want to start with gas.

00:17:16.660 Before we get to the world, let me explain.

00:17:23.060 Right now, there have been some forces that want to break up OPEC,

00:17:27.180 and I'm all for it myself, but...

00:17:33.760 there's about to be a glut of oil.

00:17:37.900 I can't believe I'm saying this about to be a glut of oil.

00:17:42.100 So we're going to have the opposite problem.

00:17:43.660 Remember the problem was if we go into Iran, 0.87

00:17:46.800 we're going to have $300 a barrel oil and it collapsed the economy. 0.98

00:17:50.560 Yeah,

00:17:51.100 that would do it overnight. 0.77

00:17:53.780 $150 barrel of oil that does it in about three weeks,

00:17:57.420 but so does $40 a barrel oil,

00:18:02.180 30 barrel oil i mean everybody loves cheaper gasoline i do but there is a number when uh cheap

00:18:11.420 becomes dangerous and i want you to think about goldilocks okay one bowl of porridge too hot one

00:18:19.180 bowl too cold one bowl was just right the oil market works exactly the same way okay if oil

00:18:27.780 is $150 plus a barrel, you can't afford to drive. Airlines suffer. Trucking companies suffer. Food

00:18:35.000 prices rise because everything that you buy rides on a diesel truck or a train before it leaves the

00:18:40.900 store or before it reaches the store. And so too expensive, $150 is too high. There's another side.

00:18:49.760 Nobody ever talks about this side. Oil can become too cheap. Now, how the heck is that possible?

00:18:57.780 imagine owning uh i don't know an apple orchard every apple costs you about four bucks to grow

00:19:08.200 okay that's your land the water the fertilizer what you pay people for workers the spraying down

00:19:15.380 the equipment all of that then the market suddenly decides apples are only worth two dollars

00:19:21.640 well you don't celebrate and go oh i'm going to sell so many apples

00:19:26.660 no because remember it costs you more than that to grow the apple so you go bankrupt

00:19:32.900 that's exactly what happens with oil oil doesn't magically appear in your gas tank it takes a lot

00:19:40.680 of money companies spend years looking for oil they lease the land they drill wells you know

00:19:47.420 that can can cost millions and millions of dollars and sometimes they just drill um you know holes

00:19:54.180 and lose everything they have to maintain the pipelines the workers the repair equipment the

00:20:00.060 transport of every single barrel i mean it's pretty amazing when you think they're going to

00:20:05.860 pump oil out of the ground in saudi arabia they're going to ship it to wherever they're going to

00:20:11.120 process they put it into a barrel they put that onto a ship and they ship it halfway across the

00:20:16.660 world, and it's $40 for that barrel, that's pretty amazing. I mean, try to buy a decent

00:20:22.360 pair of jeans for $30, $40 a barrel, $60 a pair of jeans. Now, if oil falls below what it costs

00:20:31.460 to produce, the companies stop drilling, and the wells eventually dry up. Do you know why we don't

00:20:38.660 make oil out of shale we have plenty of shale for oil um and reagan was going on this big shale oil

00:20:47.820 kick and he was like we're just going to make our shale well i think and i don't quote me on this

00:20:52.480 you'll have to check it but i think the number is like 60 a barrel break even is 60 a barrel for

00:20:57.260 for shale oil you have to go into the mountain you have to get the shale then you have to turn

00:21:00.920 it into oil and then you do all the processing on that put it in the barrel and ship it to wherever

00:21:05.840 It's like $60 to do that. So if I'm not mistaken, OPEC decided to shut us down by dropping the number to like, I don't remember, $50 a barrel. And so they put a glut out and they dropped it and they can afford to drop it because they know they're going to win in the end.

00:21:28.700 they'll put all of their competition out of business. And so they dropped the price of oil.

00:21:33.980 And so now it was just too expensive for shale. And so what happens? We had to shut the shale

00:21:39.680 plants down. We had to shut the whole shale thing. It wasn't the environmentalists, at least

00:21:44.600 not the environmentalists alone. It was the fact that we couldn't afford to do it, at least at that

00:21:50.180 time. And so when that happens, what happens here in America? I mean, this is why I don't celebrate

00:21:56.500 don't celebrate

00:21:59.520 $40 a barrel

00:22:00.700 because workers

00:22:02.580 have you watched Landman

00:22:04.300 remember how

00:22:06.800 the character in Landman

00:22:08.820 explained this yeah that's when

00:22:10.740 everyone loses their jobs all the workers

00:22:12.820 lose their job entire

00:22:14.520 towns disappear

00:22:15.960 so then what

00:22:20.480 well not

00:22:22.860 every country produces oil for the same

00:22:24.980 costs. Saudi Arabia has the cheapest oil in the world. Do you know what it costs them to take it

00:22:28.900 out of the ground and ship it halfway across the world? They can pull a barrel out of the ground

00:22:33.240 for well under $20 a barrel. $20 a barrel. Shale, like I said, is different. Much of Texas,

00:22:42.980 North Dakota, New Mexico, they need prices that are significantly higher to justify new drilling.

00:22:50.660 Some wells can make money at around $40 a barrel.

00:22:55.460 But the new projects, most of them are closer to $50, $60,

00:22:59.420 and even more depending on the field and the financing.

00:23:02.080 So $40 a barrel is not just cheap gasoline.

00:23:06.860 It's layoffs.

00:23:09.500 It's drilling rigs shut down.

00:23:11.920 It's restaurants in Midland, Texas with empty tables.

00:23:14.940 It's welding shops closing.

00:23:17.300 It's truck dealerships with nobody buying.

00:23:19.520 because every drilling rig supports hundreds of other jobs. One roughneck loses his paycheck.

00:23:25.800 Then the waitress loses the customers. Then the hardware store sells less. The local bank gets 0.99

00:23:31.020 nervous and it spreads throughout the whole community. We are dependent on one another.

00:23:36.480 And Texas has lived this story several times before. I lived in Texas in the crash of the

00:23:42.700 1980s, the great oil crash of the 1980s. And the office buildings were complete. It was a ghost

00:23:47.920 town. It was a ghost town. The office buildings were empty, the banks failed, the families

00:23:54.820 were packing everything they owned up into a pickup truck because there was nowhere to work

00:24:03.660 in Texas. Oil isn't just another business in Texas. Oil is the heartbeat of entire regions

00:24:12.120 of texas now look east russia's watching this price really really carefully as well because

00:24:20.020 russia depends on oil and gas to support its government which supports its people so they

00:24:27.660 take the oil and they sell it and think of oil in russia as a paycheck okay every drop in that

00:24:34.500 price shrinks the paycheck of the federal government and that's really important when

00:24:40.020 prices stay low long enough, Moscow has fewer rubles to pay for their soldiers, fewer rubles

00:24:46.280 to build things, to, you know, build tanks, to replace missiles. That's an advantage to us.

00:24:55.980 Fewer rubles to be able to finance their economy and subsidize everything. That doesn't mean Russia 0.98

00:25:01.900 immediately collapses, but it means it's headed in that direction. Countries can borrow.

00:25:06.580 they can also cut spending but a long period of oil prices that are forty dollars that would

00:25:14.900 squeeze russia exactly where it hurts and it's not good for them not good for them

00:25:21.620 history tells us this matters it was the low energy price a lot according to a lot of historians

00:25:29.880 low energy prices in the 1980s one of the pressures that weakened the soviet union

00:25:35.260 energy imports or exports were the soviet government's atm they needed to have that

00:25:42.440 and when the cash dried up the entire system began to crack okay so let me go back to opec

00:25:48.180 because this is where opec comes back in okay people think opec controls the prices

00:25:53.460 they don't well i mean they do not completely think of opec like the manager of a really

00:26:01.300 crowded movie theater. If too many tickets are sold, then what happens? The theater is

00:26:07.600 uncomfortable, unusable. If too few tickets are sold, the theater loses money. Their job is to

00:26:13.900 keep attendance in the sweet spot. So when the prices fall too far, OPEC cuts production,

00:26:22.480 not because they hate consumers, although they're not doing us any favor, but they do know that if

00:26:27.720 producers go bankrupt today there won't be oil tomorrow and then the prices don't go to 40 they

00:26:34.980 go to 140 okay the oil market is just this giant pendulum pendulum and it's just too high too low

00:26:42.480 too high too low too high too low oh it's it's exhausting but the healthiest economy doesn't live

00:26:49.920 at either extreme too high or too low it lives right smack in the middle high enough that people

00:26:56.660 keep investing low enough so families can still fill their tanks. Because the cheapest, I mean,

00:27:03.820 $1.25, that would be sweet until you saw how many of your neighbors are going to be unemployed.

00:27:11.960 And the most profitable oil company in the world, you know, it doesn't help much if working

00:27:18.260 families can't afford to drive to work. So like everything in economics, stability is worth more

00:27:26.420 than the extremes. I will tell you that, uh, uh, I want to give you some broad strokes

00:27:34.400 on a conversation I had with the president on Friday. Um, cause we talked about oil,

00:27:41.480 the economy, um, and, um, uh, and Iran. And I don't want to quote him. I don't have permission

00:27:49.560 to quote him, but I can give you some idea of how I felt of what he was saying.

00:28:00.900 My feeling is he went into this war knowing that oil would not be $300 a barrel. Remember,

00:28:11.380 that's what everybody's saying, $150 to $350 per barrel. And he looked at that and he looked at

00:28:17.100 the advisors that were saying that and said that's not true it's not going to happen and i think

00:28:20.960 that's because he knew how he was going to fight it and he he knew there are ways to get around

00:28:26.080 that so we're not going to have that and he was right about that and so he went and he fought it

00:28:32.380 with everything he could um and i want to i want to stick i want to make sure i separate my feelings

00:28:42.360 with what I felt he said. Um, so he knew that was happening and he knew that we were not going

00:28:51.880 to have a great depression because oil was going to be $300 a barrel. But my impression is some

00:28:58.900 new information came to him here recently and was like, okay, that's about as far as you can push it

00:29:05.720 in this phase. Um, and if you continue to do it, like he was doing it, we will go into a

00:29:15.500 depression. And I will tell you, the president has said to me before, I will not be Herbert Hoover.

00:29:21.800 He's very clear on the lessons of other presidents. And he's like, I am not going to push this

00:29:27.520 country into a depression. Um, and I think, I think them some new information, and I don't

00:29:32.520 know what it is but i think some new information came to him um and said look if you don't stop

00:29:37.420 uh and change this pattern we could go into a global depression and uh he did not want that

00:29:45.580 for the american people or for you know uh the rest of the world quite honestly

00:29:50.480 you know you could even be you could really even say he was being selfish he just didn't want to

00:29:56.020 do it for him whatever we get the benefit of not going into a depression so

00:30:02.040 that's why it looks like you're not going to get the deal that you want but i will tell you

00:30:11.460 after talking to him is this too cryptic jason are you following this um it is my impression

00:30:19.180 that you are going to get what you want because he's going to continue to take him out

00:30:23.900 he will continue to bomb them i mean he i i i feel comfortable saying this he told me

00:30:30.200 oh they will comply glenn they will come to the table they will fold yeah what makes you say that 1.00

00:30:38.860 because i'll kill them i just keep dropping bombs and i'll kill all of their leaders he said to me 1.00

00:30:46.600 i'm not going to blow up their bridges or their infrastructure that would be bad for them and bad 1.00

00:30:50.700 for us but their leaders they will comply he's not changing the end what he's changing his end

00:31:00.080 goal what he's changing is the tactic because he is concerned about a global depression for some

00:31:06.640 reason if we didn't change our tactic yeah i don't think it's too cryptic at all i think that there's

00:31:13.500 a lot of stuff that they can tell us about and there's a lot of stuff they can't tell us about

00:31:18.200 What I do know is what's odd now, or just what's interesting to analyze or important to analyze, is right now two of the largest oil-producing countries in the world are currently under duress.

00:31:31.660 Not only under duress, but their oil production is specifically being targeted.

00:31:36.340 Ukraine is now, just a few days ago, hit one of their biggest refineries in far eastern Russia.

00:31:41.420 Russia is under severe strain right now with their oil production, and we all know about Iran.

00:31:48.200 That's two huge countries.

00:31:49.600 And OPEC, the cartel, is also under duress because they are having defections.

00:31:56.120 OPEC left, or UAE left OPEC, and I could see that coming down.

00:32:02.180 So what we see going forward in the future, I don't feel like is going to be at all what we've seen over the past, what, 50 years or so.

00:32:10.920 Everything is about to change.

00:32:13.420 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:32:18.200 I know we're arguing about birthright citizenship.

00:32:27.300 Why all these suicide pacts?

00:32:34.300 The 14th Amendment was specifically written for the children of freed slaves, 0.52

00:32:40.320 not for people who fly in, have a baby, and claim instant citizenship for the child while the parents stay illegal.

00:32:46.940 That's insanity.

00:32:48.200 That's not what the authors intended, and pretending otherwise is madness and wildly dishonest.

00:32:55.480 We're also not the destination of import for false and dangerous ideologies, nor corruption from people who come here fleeing corruption.

00:33:09.340 The Somali fraud cases, people were brought here under the promise that they would strengthen America. 0.95

00:33:14.780 And what happens? With some of our own politicians' help, they set up massive welfare scams, ripping off the very taxpayers that welcomed them here. 1.00

00:33:25.220 We brought you in to make America better. And now you're stealing from us?

00:33:31.200 That is not the huddled masses yearning to breathe free. 0.99

00:33:34.500 That's a clip from Golden Door, the 14th Amendment and Somali fraud.

00:33:42.840 And I talked to the president over the weekend.

00:33:45.580 He said, I just saw the special.

00:33:46.980 He says, great, everybody should see this special.

00:33:49.860 You'll learn an awful lot.

00:33:52.260 And you'll learn that immigration is not a suicide pact.

00:33:56.480 It's called The Golden Door.

00:33:57.540 It's available now at glenbeck.com slash torch.

00:34:00.880 Tom Homan is with me.

00:34:03.060 he is our borders are uh and uh and the guy who went in and fixed minnesota what an incredible

00:34:11.680 job that thing was spiraling out of control and you just show up and it just it takes care of

00:34:19.120 itself so thank you for that thank you yeah it didn't take care of yourself well no but uh yeah

00:34:25.440 the president called me one morning woke me up and said you need to go to minnesota and fix this

00:34:30.060 mess and i said when he said today so i've gone up there within a few hours i was on the ground

00:34:35.320 in minnesota so i saw something gosh just today where they oh no it was uh it was mom donnie uh

00:34:43.320 on fourth of july saying that these guys just show up in masks and unmarked vans and they're

00:34:49.440 just taking all these people away can you respond to that yeah well you know what mom donnie doesn't

00:34:56.660 understand we're doing the same thing we've done for decades we're enforcing immigration law and

00:35:01.840 the reason we're wearing masks is because of the 8 000 increase in death threats i mean just not

00:35:09.760 against the agents against your spouses and their children so i same thing i've yelled at every

00:35:16.260 democrat on the hill that says take the mask off i said we'll take the mask off when you stop going

00:35:21.260 on national media and call and comparing ice to the nazis and the secret police because you are

00:35:26.220 driving the hate you are driving the hateful rhetoric that's causing the spike in attacks

00:35:30.860 i said so why don't you support ice because they're enforcing laws that you wrote so if

00:35:36.740 they're if they're the secret police for enforcing that what's that make you you wrote them all

00:35:40.560 so stop the hateful rhetoric and masking come off quickly there's no chance of that happening is

00:35:46.680 there they don't seem to be slowing down and i don't understand how do you deal with a city like

00:35:53.620 new york that's a sanctuary city and they're not going to comply how do we

00:35:59.940 how are we a country if cities can just pick and choose what they want to do and they're becoming

00:36:10.100 more and more belligerent about it exactly so you know thank god todd blanch and his his people are

00:36:16.580 following lost his sanctuary cities and some are looking good a few we've had some recent

00:36:21.960 setbacks in a couple of them but you got radical judges that make decisions not based on law but

00:36:27.840 out of hatred for the trump administration but we're appealing those decisions so i really think

00:36:32.480 we'll be successful in the in the sanctuary city lawsuits because you know and what i explained to

00:36:37.440 you know governor hulkner and we want to talk about minnesota governor hulkner just signed

00:36:41.540 legislation that ended our 287g agreements with some you know big sheriffs in new york state

00:36:47.680 she refused for any county jail to work with us on retention space and i i sat down with her

00:36:54.000 explaining to her what we did in minnesota i says you know way we fix minnesota we gain support from

00:36:59.520 the local sheriffs so we can arrest the bad guy in the safety and security of a jail which is

00:37:05.420 safer for the agent safer for the alien and safer for the community one one agent arrests one bad

00:37:10.880 guy but what you force us in minnesota to do since you're a sanctuary state we got to send a whole

00:37:15.540 team out which is six or seven fugitive operations six or seven people on a fugitive team fugitive

00:37:21.560 operation team to go arrest somebody in the public so if you let us in the jail rather than you know

00:37:27.560 six people on the streets looking at this guy we got one person in the jail it just makes sense

00:37:31.960 that's how we won minnesota we got unprecedented support so that caused us to take more more of

00:37:37.420 agents off the street and do it in the jail and i explained it to governor hokul and i said because

00:37:42.420 when you force us into the street,

00:37:44.320 we've got to send teams out there to do that.

00:37:46.100 When we find the bad guy, which we will,

00:37:48.460 many times are with others. 1.00

00:37:49.940 Others that are in the country illegally

00:37:51.200 may not be a public safety threat, 1.00

00:37:53.100 but they're coming too.

00:37:54.340 So it results in more agents in the streets.

00:37:56.420 It results in more collateral arrests.

00:37:58.920 And it's a community safety issue

00:38:00.260 when you release a public safety threat back to the public.

00:38:01.780 How does she respond to that?

00:38:04.080 Completely ignored it and signed the legislation 0.99

00:38:05.820 three weeks later.

00:38:07.060 And that's why I told her,

00:38:08.040 okay, now you forced us to send more agents to New York

00:38:12.420 to enforce immigration law when it would have took less because you took the efficiencies of

00:38:16.500 the jailway and what she's ignoring is the fact now we can't rent a bed from a sheriff so every

00:38:21.780 illegal alien we arrest in new york will be immediately put on an airplane and sent out 0.59

00:38:26.660 of the state how does that benefit the immigrant community and you know you know they don't go to 0.85

00:38:31.700 proceedings yeah they have no access to their family because we moved them out of state so

00:38:35.860 it wasn't about protecting immigrant community this is about her supporting sanctuary isn't

00:38:40.100 Isn't there something in the Constitution about the supremacy of the federal law?

00:38:43.980 Absolutely.

00:38:44.660 And I think that's why DOJ is all over this, doing these sanctuary cities.

00:38:48.020 You think that's coming next?

00:38:49.560 Well, they've already filed laws, which can several, and we've got to keep doing it.

00:38:53.180 I know Todd Blanchett's serious about it, President Trump's serious about taking these sanctuary cities on.

00:38:57.800 But what sanctuary cities are causing, because of their policies, is we're going to flood the zone.

00:39:04.480 I mean, we've got to send, we've got 10,000 new agents, about 8,000 are on board right now.

00:39:08.260 all these new resources are going to be assigned to sanctuary cities because that's where the

00:39:13.180 problem is we don't have that problem in florida right we don't have that problem in texas the

00:39:16.860 sheriffs and chiefs are working with us so when you take that efficiency away and we got to send

00:39:21.540 more few jobs teams out that's where the surge of agents are going to go to sanctuary states

00:39:26.420 like new york when you put the uh agents or maybe you didn't do it but ice agents went in and they

00:39:32.840 were serving at airports i think during the shutdown and i went through an airport and they

00:39:37.840 were handing out water and they were polite and nice and i thought this is this is the best pr for

00:39:43.060 ice i've seen um you have to hire more people to do all these things they are so hated by some

00:39:50.380 are you concerned at all about them turning dark at all just because of what they have to go through

00:39:56.460 that they just become callous no i think you know like every agency there's bad dentists or bad

00:40:03.080 doctors and the you know every police agency has a share of issues but i think the men and women

00:40:08.240 are ice that perform remarkable under the under the stress the airports uh president trump again

00:40:15.040 i had more jobs than marco rubio because he called me up that one day says he needs

00:40:18.760 what do you think about agents at the airport thomas i think it's a brilliant idea it goes

00:40:23.720 good you're in charge of it so but you know but doing that number one we were able to secure the

00:40:30.120 airports a lot of tsa agents were out where security exit lanes were able to you know move

00:40:34.680 people through the lines quicker get the traveling uh americans through the airport quicker and

00:40:39.300 but it also did what you just said it put a it put a new face on ice because they don't have to

00:40:44.800 wear a mask in airports they're not doing operations right and it got people to interact

00:40:49.740 with them and they understood look these are great people these are moms and dads too you know they

00:40:54.360 have children they have families and they're simply there to help the american people travel

00:40:59.060 gonna keep the airport safe um this birthright or the birthright citizenship you know in texas

00:41:06.240 we've seen this this birthing center that is china are there ways are you guys going in and 0.58

00:41:12.860 arresting and breaking that is there is there anything you can do to the people who are running

00:41:16.860 those things sometimes yes sometimes no uh but uh hsi homeland security investigation has increased

00:41:24.480 the birth tourism investigations people who come under who lie in the application come under false

00:41:30.180 pretenses you know they're coming here for business or coming here you know for pleasure

00:41:33.880 in fact to come here for birth so hsi is looking at the birth tourism investigations they've they've

00:41:39.960 tripled down on it especially after the supreme court decision so you know it's unfortunate the

00:41:45.540 decision came about i'm not an attorney but i can tell you uh birthright citizenship is a major

00:41:50.920 driver of illegal immigration number one but number two more concerning is the national

00:41:55.920 security issue when you have hundreds of thousands of u.s citizens from china and russia and other 1.00

00:42:03.220 countries who are not our friends that can come back to this country and change how real is that

00:42:08.680 people would say oh please it's most mostly not bad how real is that it's real i mean if anybody 0.76

00:42:16.040 think you know you know china is not our friend uh you know and i don't think russia is our friend

00:42:22.840 and they're the two biggest countries that deal with coming to united states for birth tourism

00:42:27.880 you got chinese and you know the north mariana islands and guam i mean it's a real issue and

00:42:33.640 it's something we're looking at right now we're doubling tripling down on it because the recent

00:42:37.720 decision it's just going to inspire more people taking advantage of it it's it's a national

00:42:42.920 security issue that could have been fixed with the right decision but now we got to live with

00:42:47.720 it we got to deal with it president told me maybe six months ago um we were talking on the phone

00:42:56.120 and i said how concerned are you about this birthright census and he said i'm concerned

00:43:00.760 he said i have hope that they're going to do the right thing but uh not a lot of hope they're going

00:43:05.860 to do the right thing but don't worry we have some things we can do you know what he was talking

00:43:10.320 about? What can we do? Well, I think, again, we deal with the national security issue and hold

00:43:16.140 people accountable that are involved in that. But also, you need to push Congress to make some

00:43:21.460 changes. And Congress has, I think, Supreme Court lean toward this issue for Congress. So Congress

00:43:26.820 needs to step up and do the right thing. But again, I don't have a lot of hope in them either.

00:43:30.820 I hope they do the right thing. But same thing with the Save America Act. I mean,

00:43:37.040 isn't that the right thing to do so we'll see but president has punted that over to congress and

00:43:43.500 asked congress to take a hard look at this and make something happen so let's let's hope that

00:43:47.760 happens can you give me some stats on like how many people were here when you came into office

00:43:53.680 how many people are gone now how many are self-deporting how i mean we had a obvious i

00:44:01.180 think we had a slowdown there for a while of getting the bad guys out because you were dealing

00:44:05.800 with things like you know uh minnesota it just feels like that is this on track yeah where are

00:44:13.100 the ice rs are record pace there was a slowdown i even talked about slowdown when i looked at it

00:44:20.020 it was like down 14 percent higher sometimes but the department of home and security was shut down

00:44:25.420 and i was involved you know another job i got was going up the hill and negotiate it's a problem

00:44:31.620 being competent around donald trump isn't it so i went up there along with my chief of staff we

00:44:36.480 sat these negotiations to open dhs up and i can say without a doubt the reason dhs was shut down

00:44:42.400 is because of minnesota and what they saw happen in minnesota and we in and because they said it

00:44:48.020 everything they brought up was about minnesota or chicago but when i sat down explained well we

00:44:52.900 fixed that we're already dealing with identify identifiers and uniforms we already have body

00:44:59.000 cams we already deployed body cams matter of fact the legislative the money you're holding up

00:45:03.160 gives us 120 million dollars to buy more cameras so we fix this issue so you know they simply they

00:45:09.940 didn't want to you know see ice improve they they were trying to shut down ice or trying to take

00:45:15.900 authorities away and i told them day one i'm not going to sit here and give up any authority ice

00:45:20.120 has enforced immigration law so you know i it worked out great right through the reconciliations

00:45:25.200 they didn't get any of it things are asking for is ridiculous but it's all based on minnesota why

00:45:29.980 they shut down and uh now that we got the reconciliation package does the numbers are

00:45:34.940 spiking i told people just have some faith there's a plan and the plan's coming together matter of

00:45:40.340 fact report two days ago i got the numbers from ice and they arrested over 10 000 people in less

00:45:45.900 than five days which is a record for the agency and that's just ice it's not ice borb joe fbi d

00:45:51.460 that we had all of government in the first year,

00:45:53.820 this is just ice.

00:45:54.780 They're hitting record numbers.

00:45:55.780 So one of the things,

00:45:56.480 and I've only got about 45 seconds left for this answer,

00:45:59.140 but one of the things that I was always concerned about

00:46:02.280 was the border wall

00:46:03.360 because that protects us against future.

00:46:05.640 We never thought that an administration 0.94

00:46:07.480 would just start flying people over our border,

00:46:10.060 but the border wall.

00:46:12.280 And now when he's really talking about it,

00:46:14.260 we're almost done with it, aren't we?

00:46:15.720 As of this morning,

00:46:16.640 we have already built 132 miles of wall.

00:46:19.020 All the wall since President Trump,

00:46:20.920 plus secondary wall and

00:46:22.940 buoy barriers, hundreds of miles of buoy barriers

00:46:25.140 in the river. So I can say by the

00:46:27.040 end of 2027

00:46:29.080 every mile wall will be in the ground.

00:46:32.200 Every

00:46:32.600 mile will be in the ground. By the end of next

00:46:35.060 year. They're building the wall quicker

00:46:37.060 and cheaper than they did during Trump 45.

00:46:40.480 CBP's doing

00:46:41.020 a great job. Wow.

00:46:43.100 Thanks, and for the help of

00:46:44.980 the Department of War too. They're on the ground

00:46:46.960 to helping us. Tom,

00:46:48.760 it's great to see you great seeing you sir good good to have you here thank you so much god bless

00:46:53.020 you all right keep up the good work and please thank all of the officers for what they do

00:46:56.960 god bless god bless every board which lays in the ice stage another yeah thank you

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