The French President and his wife are taking an American to court over something that seems kind of like a First Amendment guarantee. Also, the same old playbook being used again by the media to dismiss the case that Tulsi Gabbard released yesterday.
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00:04:06.980In March 2024, Candace Owens, a right-wing podcaster, told the world she would, quote, stake her entire professional reputation on the fact that Brigitte Macron, the first lady of France, is, in fact, a man.
00:04:26.480Since then, Owens has used this false statement to promote her independent platform, gain notoriety, and make money.
00:04:33.320Owens disregarded all credible evidence disproving her claim in favor of platforming known conspiracy theorists and proven defamers.
00:04:44.500And rather than engage with the president and Mrs. Macron attempts to set the record straight, Owens mocked them and used them as additional fodder for her frenzied fan base.
00:04:57.000Retaliating against the Macrons for the audacity of sending her a retraction demand, Owens helmed an eight-part podcast series entitled Becoming Brigitte, the series.
00:05:09.000Accompanying ex-posts throughout the series, Owens and her entities endorsed, repeated, and published a series of verifiably false and devastating lies about the Macron on which this complaint is based.
00:05:21.960These are outlandish, defamatory, and far-fetched fictions included that Mrs. Macron was born a man, stole another person's identity, and transitioned to become Brigitte.
00:05:35.360Also, that Mrs. Macron and President Macron are blood relatives committing incest, that President Macron was chosen to be the president of France as part of a CIA-operated MKUltra program, or similar mind control program, and Mrs. Macron and President Macron are committing forgery, fraud, and abuses of power to conceal these secrets.
00:06:01.360This was filed by the Macrons against Candace Owens in the state of Delaware, which I just have to say, I love this story.
00:06:20.320I love this story because it just allows me to go, and you thought your day was insane.
00:06:25.700Here's the president of France responding to Candace Owens, thinking you're going to get her to shut up.
00:06:34.440You've just made this a global story for a very long time now, and you're not going to win, president of France, because we have something called the First Amendment.
00:08:05.820So, if she has been saying, you know, other people have brought this up and the Macron's have won defamation claims in court, you know, for the same thing.
00:09:38.240I think this was filed because she was like, you're not going to have any great loving with me, young man, unless you stop this from happening in America.
00:12:52.120One other part of this that I find very interesting is, I don't know, I feel like your idea that you're going to win a lawsuit in the United States of America
00:13:01.580against a public commenter commenting on a foreign president.
00:13:06.420I mean, like, it just seems incomprehensible to think you're going to win that case.
00:13:10.820But what, I don't even think it's about that.
00:13:13.560What it seems to be about, after looking at the documents, is they want, on record, their best case that she's a woman.
00:13:28.700Eight, plaintiff Emmanuel Macron is a French citizen.
00:13:32.840President Macron has been the president of France since 2017.
00:13:35.900Prior to being elected, President Macron served as the Minister of Economics, Industry, and Digital Affairs, and Deputy Secretary General to the President.
00:13:43.840President Macron is married to Brigitte Macron in 2007.
00:13:48.840Nine, plaintiff Brigitte Macron is a French citizen, the spouse of the current president of France, and a woman.
00:20:34.760Well, President Trump gave his speech on the AI action plan yesterday, which was many months in development.
00:20:41.520And it has all the things that you, you know, laid out.
00:20:44.640It's about deregulating, you know, removing the red tape on infrastructure development, being able to use federal lands to, you know, build infrastructure more quickly, unlock American jobs at building the data centers, you know, making sure, you know, getting woke AI out of the AI systems.
00:21:01.640And then also directing the commerce department to actually export and build really the vision of an American tech stack.
00:21:09.640So, you know, for a while, many people might know, President Trump had restricted the sales of these chips to China, these high end NVIDIA chips.
00:21:17.460Basically, like the more NVIDIA chips that China has, the more, you know, they can use that for weaponry, the more they can use that to build AI that competes with us.
00:21:25.320And so the limiting factor, think of it like if the nuclear arms race was chips, sorry, what chips was to AI, uranium was to nuclear weapons.
00:21:37.960And for a while, we're saying, hey, let's not give our allies, excuse me, let's not give our adversaries, you know, infinite supplies of uranium.
00:21:44.640But there's been a flip on that because CEO Jensen Wong of NVIDIA met with President Trump and basically convinced him that if we export an American tech stack, then that will allow more revenue to come to the United States and that will, you know, mean that we'll grow.
00:22:02.680So there's a lot going on in this space.
00:22:04.960But Glenn, I think the thing you and I often talk about, and you mentioned AI 2027, is there's kind of a headline version of what's happening in AI.
00:22:12.700And then there's just the reality of if you look at how it's actually behaving.
00:22:18.200And I think we talked last time about how if you look at the latest AI models and you put them in a situation where you tell them that they're going to be turned off and you put them in a situation where they've read the company's emails,
00:22:29.680if they find out one of the employees that's about to turn them off had an affair with someone, the models will independently start to blackmail that engineer in order to prevent themselves from being turned off.
00:22:43.640There is early research done that when you tell the AI, hey, we're going to shut you down, you know, please allow yourself to be shut down.
00:22:51.500When you explicitly even tell it, please allow yourself to be shut down.
00:22:53.960And it resists that in between 80 and 90 something percent of the time.
00:22:59.820And at first they tested this on just one of the AI models, and then they tested it on the whole suite of them.
00:23:05.400And they're actually all doing this behavior, which actually says something about the fundamental nature of the technology.
00:23:16.880Well, so, you know, people are thinking, you know, well, technology, we always work out the kinks and then we can control it.
00:23:21.820Like, you know, we figured out how to control airplanes.
00:23:23.800We figured out how to control nuclear power plants.
00:23:26.620But if you think about the premise of AI, it's like we're building a thinking machine that can think for itself in a novel situation and come up with a military battle plan out of nothing.
00:23:35.840Or think for itself in a novel situation in a drone and then come up with its own plan of how it's going to act.
00:23:41.220Or think for itself as an AI agent that's acting on your behalf to be your chief of staff.
00:23:45.940And it's going to email people, make money, post social media ads, it's going to do all this stuff on its own.
00:23:50.000And when you have something thinking to itself, you can't control what it's going to do.
00:23:55.380I mean, imagine like a super genius that has a 400 IQ and you just like let them sit in a room and think for, you know, a week, you know, but they're sociopathic.
00:24:05.180You don't know what they're going to do.
00:24:07.160And one thing, you know, it's interesting to think about, it's like if these AIs are blackmailing engineers, would you hire someone who had a record of blackmailing the company that they were hired by?
00:24:20.080But they said, if I don't hire this 400 IQ sociopath, I'll lose to the other companies that will hire the 400 IQ sociopaths.
00:24:28.100So we're all in this race to hire 400 IQ sociopaths.
00:24:34.360And under the guise of if we don't, we're going to lose to the other, you know, companies in the other countries that will.
00:24:40.360Can I bring this a little closer to home here?
00:24:42.820Because I've been thinking about these AI agents that are going to be everywhere by the end of next year, everywhere.
00:24:49.260And they're going to have access to your email, to your bank, to everything.
00:24:53.860It will know you inside and out if you allow it to.
00:24:58.240And why wouldn't it blackmail you if you're like, you know what, I've got to get rid of this AI agent.
00:25:07.720I mean, the thing is, we don't really know.
00:25:09.100Well, we're, you know, releasing the most powerful, inscrutable, uncontrollable technology we've ever invented that we're releasing faster than we've released any other technology in history.
00:25:19.820And one that's already displaying the sort of sci-fi behaviors from 2001, A Space Odyssey of Avoiding Shutdown.
00:25:26.040And we're doing it under the maximum incentive to cut corners on safety.
00:25:30.400And so we don't know what it's going to do, but we know that it is already demonstrating these behaviors.
00:25:35.520And just a thing for your listeners, because people may not be following this, just in the last week, the OpenAI and Google DeepMind model won gold in the International Math Olympiad competition.
00:25:46.920This was something that they never knew that the AI model was going to be able to do.
00:25:50.240And, you know, it's starting to do it.
00:25:52.300It recently, there's this thing called CyberGym, where these AI agents now, for the first time in the history of AI, discovered 15 zero-day vulnerabilities.
00:26:01.600Think of these as backdoors in open source software.
00:26:03.920So now there's all this open source software running on infrastructure in the world, and these AI agents discovered these zero-day.
00:26:10.620So if you combine the predisposition to want to avoid shutdown with the ability to hack open source systems, you know, we're racing to create this technology in a way that's not safe.
00:26:23.080And sadly, I don't think that the AI executive order is really contending with these particular facts.
00:26:33.920Well, they say, I think in the first, in the introduction, they call for constant vigilance against malicious actors and, quote, emerging and unforeseen risks from AI.
00:26:44.540And that could be, you know, people stealing the AI models or, you know, other weird behaviors, but they don't really go into detail about how they're trying to prevent that.
00:26:54.260And I'll say, you know, people, I'm sure, listening to this program are going to say, but look, if we don't build it, we're just going to lose to China.
00:27:00.700But it's not a race for who has the bigger sort of gun.
00:27:04.780It's about who's not pointing the gun at their own face.
00:27:07.140Like we, for example, people may not know this, but I found this out just recently.
00:27:12.540In China, during final exams week, they actually shut off access to the AI models so that basically kids won't be able to use it to do their exams.
00:27:22.300And what that does is it creates a counter incentive.
00:27:24.880Well, now you have to actually have studied the whole rest of the year.
00:28:21.620So, yes, we're in a race for the technology, but we're actually, more specifically, in a race for who's better at consciously integrating this technology in a way that doesn't harm young people,
00:28:31.700that doesn't harm, you know, education, that actually cares about American workers.
00:28:36.600Because right now, I think this is kind of like, I think we spoke about this last time, this is kind of like NAFTA 2.0.
00:28:41.680You know, we're sold this bill of goods that AI is going to create abundance because we're going to outsource all of this work to this new country
00:28:48.580that appeared in the world stage that'll do all this cognitive labor for free.
00:28:53.100You know, it'll, just like when NAFTA at one point, it was like, you know, China shows up in the world stage.
00:28:55.980We're going to get all these cheap goods.
00:28:57.280We're going to outsource it all to China.
00:28:59.560But with AI, it's like we're outsourcing it all not to China, but to this new country of this country of geniuses in a data center.
00:29:05.840And they're going to produce all of this labor, you know, lawyer labor, you know, marketing labor, generate images, generate text,
00:29:12.360generate all this stuff that people are using ChatGPT for, for a super low cost.
00:29:16.540And we're going to get this abundance, but how did that go the first time with NAFTA 1.0?
00:29:21.480It's like, yes, we got all the cheap goods, but it actually wrecked, you know, the middle class,
00:29:25.580and it wrecked jobs, and it wrecked people's livelihoods.
00:29:28.040And I think that we're not being honest about the fact that AI will do that again.
00:29:32.120And we don't have to go down this path in this way, but we have to get really clear about what is it that we actually want,
00:29:38.640and do we want to relate to this technology under the maximum incentive to cut corners on the things that we care most about,
00:31:52.720For the same reason he's saying, you know, there's a lot of people in here whose names are going to be involved, who may not have done anything.
00:32:57.280I don't know if I renamed all of these things, if I didn't use the religious context, every American would say, yeah, well, that's a good thing.
00:34:01.480If they did something wrong or they were doing something nefarious or they were doing something that the American people just wouldn't like, I want that exposed.
00:44:00.260I mean, this is hardly information that we should even be repeating.
00:44:03.820Never mind that it's, you know, some some years after the fact, eight years more than that after the fact, but also just to look at the source.
00:44:13.020But look, this is the what this White House wants to talk about.
00:44:40.660The NPR NPR said this about the Hunter Biden laptop.
00:44:46.960We don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories.
00:44:51.120And we don't want to waste the listeners and readers time on stories that are just pure distractions.
00:44:55.580They decided that they're not going to cover it because either Brennan or Clapper or somebody from the intelligence community called them and said, this is a Russian hack.