The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Tulsi Gabbard ｜ 8⧸27⧸24

00:00:00.000 Hey, today is a really, really great podcast.

00:00:02.560 We start with freedom of speech, what's happening over in Europe, and what it means here in

00:00:07.920 America.

00:00:08.960 Then we have Corey Lewandowski and Tulsi Gabbard, who just endorsed Donald Trump yesterday.

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00:01:48.840 Well, hello, Stu.

00:01:50.200 How are you?

00:01:50.720 Glenn, how are you?

00:01:51.580 Good morning.

00:01:52.200 Oh, my gosh.

00:01:54.080 Okay.

00:01:54.380 So, you know, we had, you just wanted to just touch on freedom of speech here.

00:01:59.320 You know, we had Tommy Robinson on with us.

00:02:02.360 And, Stu, can you give a recap of who Tommy is and what the controversy was?

00:02:07.240 Do you remember?

00:02:08.440 Barely.

00:02:08.940 I was away when you actually had him on.

00:02:10.760 Oh, okay.

00:02:11.320 Well, let me do it.

00:02:12.020 Okay.

00:02:12.240 Okay.

00:02:12.660 Okay.

00:02:13.040 I'm sorry.

00:02:13.360 So, Tommy Robinson is this guy who is very outspoken on all of the rape of children, the pedophilia.

00:02:24.300 Hopefully against.

00:02:26.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:27.220 He's outspoken against.

00:02:28.780 Yeah.

00:02:29.840 And he's in England and he's saying that there's two levels of justice.

00:02:35.980 There's one for all the white people and then one, or I shouldn't say that, one for all of the English people that were born in England.

00:02:45.820 And then one for the newcomers, you know, the refugees. 0.98

00:02:52.000 And by the way, me just saying that that way could get me arrested if I were in London or England.

00:03:00.880 So, so here's the thing, he came out and they've been blaming him for all of the violence.

00:03:07.460 And he's, he said, no, don't, you can't blame me for the violence.

00:03:11.280 It's your policies.

00:03:13.020 And he said, I have done a, just recently, I did a big rally and I said, peace is the only way to do this.

00:03:20.940 It can't be violence.

00:03:21.900 When I asked him if he was for violence, he not only reiterated that, but he said, just like you're January 6th,

00:03:29.080 violence will be the end of our movement.

00:03:31.560 So we can't have any violence.

00:03:33.580 Violence hurts our movement.

00:03:35.300 So why would I be for it?

00:03:37.120 Well, after that interview, we posted it and it was up on YouTube and they immediately said that we couldn't post it because it was inciting violence.

00:03:50.160 No, it wasn't.

00:03:53.000 It was doing the exact opposite of that.

00:03:56.280 However, I don't think this was, uh, YouTube's call.

00:04:01.720 I think YouTube got pressure from the European union and also pressure from England to make sure that that didn't get out.

00:04:12.840 So we've been suppressed and we appealed and we said to, um, uh, YouTube that it didn't have a show us where the violence was.

00:04:22.520 Show us, uh, they didn't call us back.

00:04:26.020 They just put on the video appeal rejected.

00:04:30.120 We looked at your content again and confirmed that it should stay limited.

00:04:34.680 This may be disappointing.

00:04:36.520 Oh no, it's not disappointing.

00:04:38.420 It was expected, but it's important that we keep the YouTube community protected.

00:04:43.860 Oh, YouTube.

00:04:45.160 YouTube, thank you for protecting me.

00:04:48.200 That is so important.

00:04:51.280 Meanwhile, you're convincing my kids that they can be, you know, another gender, which is scientifically impossible. 0.99

00:04:59.560 But thank you for the protection on this one.

00:05:02.840 Um, so we tried to embed the video in a story that we were sending out.

00:05:09.220 Um, and once we just, we just did embed and what happened, this video cannot be played here.

00:05:16.640 Its content has been identified by the YouTube community as inappropriate or offensive to some audiences.

00:05:22.420 So we are now, um, being, um, suppressed.

00:05:30.180 We know that Facebook has suppressed us, uh, a great deal in the last couple of, uh, years.

00:05:38.320 They are, they are now looking into it and I'm waiting to see what they find.

00:05:44.260 I'm sure they're, I'm sure they're honestly looking, especially after what happened yesterday with Zuckerberg.

00:05:50.120 Zuckerberg wrote a, a pretty astounding letter, uh, to, um, Jim Jordan and the, uh, the, uh, chairman of the judiciary looking into the weaponization of government.

00:06:04.500 Um, he said, uh, this is Zuckerberg's letter.

00:06:07.820 There's a lot of talk right now around how the U S interacts with companies like meta.

00:06:12.020 And I want to be clear about our position.

00:06:13.800 Our platforms are for everyone.

00:06:16.000 We're about promoting free speech and helping people connect in a safe and secure way.

00:06:20.120 As part of this, we regularly hear from governments all around the world and others with various concerns around public discourse and public safety.

00:06:27.760 In 2021, senior officials from the Biden administration, including the white house, repeatedly pressured our teams for months to censor certain COVID-19 content, including humor and satire, and expressed a lot of frustration with our teams.

00:06:42.760 When we didn't agree, ultimately it was our decision, whether or not to take the content down and we own our decisions, including COVID-19 related charges.

00:06:51.820 We made to the enforcement in the wake of this pressure.

00:06:54.900 I believe the government pressure was wrong and I regret that we were not more outspoken about it.

00:07:01.320 I also think we made some choices that with the benefit of hindsight and new information we wouldn't make today.

00:07:06.980 Do you think, uh, like I, uh, said to our teams at the time, I feel strongly that we should not compromise our content standards due to pressure from any administration in either direction.

00:07:16.960 And we're ready to push back if something like this happens again.

00:07:21.300 Okay, good.

00:07:23.160 Okay.

00:07:24.240 All right.

00:07:25.380 Good.

00:07:26.560 Uh, in a separate situation, the FBI warned us about potential Russian disinformation operation about the Biden family and Burisma in the lead up to the 2020 election.

00:07:35.260 That fall, when we saw a New York Post story reporting on corruption allegations involving the then-Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's family, we sent the story to fact checkers for review and temporarily, temporarily demoted it while waiting for a reply.

00:07:53.100 It's since been made clear the reporting was not Russian disinformation, and in retrospect, we shouldn't have demoted the story.

00:08:00.640 We've changed our policies and processes to make sure this doesn't happen again.

00:08:04.580 For instance, we no longer temporarily demote things in the U.S. while waiting for, oh, kneel down and bow down to the fact checkers.

00:08:15.980 Apart from content moderation, I want to address the contributions I made to the last presidential cycle to support electoral infrastructure.

00:08:23.900 The idea here was to make sure local election jurisdictions across the country had the resources they needed to help people vote safely during the global pandemic.

00:08:32.800 I made these contributions through the Chan Zuckerberg initiative.

00:08:37.760 They were designed to be nonpartisan, spread across urban, rural, and suburban communities.

00:08:44.040 Still, despite the analysis I've seen showing otherwise, I know that some people believe this work benefited one party over the other.

00:08:52.520 My goal was to be neutral and not play a role in one way or another, or even appear to play a role, so I don't plan on making a similar contribution this cycle.

00:09:05.560 Respectfully, Mark Zuckerberg.

00:09:07.240 Well, Mark, that's big of you.

00:09:09.160 Thank you.

00:09:10.060 Thank you very much.

00:09:11.080 I appreciate that.

00:09:12.920 I would like to ask if I can get, you know, unbanned now.

00:09:20.000 You know, can you not shadow ban me now?

00:09:24.100 You know, I guess I could sue Facebook because now they are admitting that they are doing this thing.

00:09:31.640 I think there's probably a lot of lawsuits.

00:09:33.340 Or, Stu, does Section 230 cover lawsuits like that when you're actually injured by Facebook?

00:09:41.940 No, Section 230 would not protect them in that way.

00:09:45.320 It would protect them against what the telegram guy is facing in Russia.

00:09:51.120 Correct.

00:09:51.460 Or in France, excuse me.

00:09:52.500 The Russian telegram guy.

00:09:53.020 France, not Russia.

00:09:53.620 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:54.020 So, in France, they just arrested the guy who does something like Signal, where it is an encrypted communication device.

00:10:07.240 And you can just download the app, and you can write to people, just like Signal, in Telegram, and nobody can read it.

00:10:16.160 Well, because they don't have Section 230, we are now having to live by European standards.

00:10:27.700 This is why YouTube is censoring me now.

00:10:34.040 They're censoring me because we could throw Glenn Beck under the bus, or we could lose all of Europe.

00:10:40.760 Which do we choose?

00:10:42.560 Well, our principal, shut up, shut up.

00:10:44.340 We know we don't want to lose Europe.

00:10:48.520 French prosecutors released information on Monday about the potential criminal charges that the telegram founder and CEO is now being investigated in connection that he was arrested last week when a private jet was landed in the country from Azerbaijan.

00:11:03.500 So, these are the 12 charges that they are investigating that appear to stem from Durov's alleged refusal to moderate illicit content on the platform.

00:11:14.960 So, the idea here was, with Section 230, you are either a publisher, or you're just a free space platform.

00:11:27.860 You either edit and hold standards, or you don't.

00:11:35.260 And if you don't, you can't be held responsible for anything.

00:11:39.360 But again, Europe doesn't have that.

00:11:41.420 They have publisher status.

00:11:43.720 So, if you're doing an app and something's happening, well, you better know about it.

00:11:49.360 Well, if you have an encrypted service, how are you going to know about it unless you're listening in to all of the things that they're doing?

00:11:58.140 Which would then negate the reason you would have encryption.

00:12:04.260 So, they listed 12 charges.

00:12:06.840 They're, yeah, I think they're all complicity.

00:12:10.700 Okay?

00:12:12.640 Webmastering an online platform in order to enable illegal transaction in an organized group.

00:12:19.240 Complicity.

00:12:19.720 Now, I would like to know, has any of these guys from the WEF, are they ever going to be charged with complicity on destroying the Western way of life?

00:12:32.040 Destroying the Western hemisphere?

00:12:34.780 Because I know they're complicit in it.

00:12:36.980 I know they're talking to each other all the time.

00:12:39.140 I wonder if they're using anything like signal.

00:12:42.940 Then, refusal to communicate at the request of competent authorities.

00:12:47.680 I think you could argue that.

00:12:50.040 Competent authorities?

00:12:51.100 Are there any?

00:12:52.800 Information or documents necessary for carrying out and operating interceptions allowed by law.

00:12:59.460 Complicity.

00:13:00.480 Possessing pornographic images of minors.

00:13:04.120 Wow.

00:13:05.460 He doesn't have pornography of minors.

00:13:10.220 He's complicit with the people who do because those people were using his app.

00:13:17.680 Can you imagine?

00:13:20.620 Complicity.

00:13:21.260 Distributing, offering, or making available pornographic images of minors in an organized group.

00:13:26.020 So, they're going to make this guy into a guy who is selling children for pornography or prostitution.

00:13:34.420 By making him an accomplice.

00:13:36.420 Complicity, offering, or selling, making available without legitimate reason.

00:13:41.600 Equipment, tools, programs, or data designed or adapted to get access to and damage the operation of automated data processing systems.

00:13:49.800 Complicity.

00:13:50.580 Organized fraud.

00:13:52.300 Criminal association with a view to committing a crime or offense punishable by five years or more in imprisonment.

00:13:58.980 Laundering of the proceeds derived from the organized group's offenses and crimes.

00:14:04.920 I guess that's because they were paying for the app?

00:14:08.200 Providing cryptology services aiming to ensure confidentiality without certified declaration.

00:14:14.920 Providing cryptology tool not solely ensuring authentication or integrity monitoring without prior declaration.

00:14:21.420 You know, I love the cryptology where the government can monitor it.

00:14:26.600 I mean, don't you?

00:14:27.880 Or just anybody.

00:14:29.140 Maybe a third party.

00:14:30.860 You know?

00:14:31.520 I love that kind of, I want a private conversation, you know, with my friends, my family, my coworkers, whatever.

00:14:40.100 I want it to be private that nobody can hack into and take and put it online.

00:14:46.900 Well, well, yeah, you could have that, but there's got to be a third party that's looking at it.

00:14:52.820 No, I don't think so.

00:14:56.320 Importing a cryptology tool ensuring authentication or integrity monitoring without prior declaration.

00:15:01.620 That's what they are charging him with.

00:15:03.660 And we need to make a decision as a society.

00:15:07.640 Are we for freedom of speech or are we not?

00:15:13.840 You know, there's always been conspirators that are walking around and having secret meetings, you know?

00:15:21.500 They're always having these secret meetings.

00:15:23.060 Shh, quiet, quiet, quiet.

00:15:25.600 Now, can we have those electronically?

00:15:30.440 Apparently not.

00:15:31.400 There are no secrets from the state.

00:15:35.240 So are we going to allow people who make this kind of stuff possible, are we going to allow them to go to jail,

00:15:43.160 or are we going to allow them to make it available for all the good guys,

00:15:48.680 knowing that some of the bad guys are going to be swept up in it,

00:15:52.540 and then just go after the bad guys?

00:15:56.580 That's the decision.

00:15:58.280 Do you have freedom of speech?

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00:17:16.480 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:17:21.000 We welcome to the program now,

00:17:23.340 Tulsi Gabbard,

00:17:24.700 the author of For Love of Country,

00:17:27.440 which really took on a whole new meaning,

00:17:32.400 Tulsi,

00:17:32.700 yesterday when you endorsed Donald Trump.

00:17:35.380 Welcome.

00:17:36.320 Yes.

00:17:36.800 Good morning,

00:17:37.380 Glenn.

00:17:37.560 It's great to be with you.

00:17:39.160 Yeah.

00:17:39.780 Did you realize how much you look like Wonder Woman?

00:17:42.100 I'm just throwing that out there.

00:17:43.700 I'll take that compliment any day of the week.

00:17:50.520 So tell me why it is so important for you to now take the step that will make you even less popular with people on the left and put a target on your back,

00:18:05.620 honestly,

00:18:06.040 because they think he is absolute Hitler.

00:18:11.400 Why are you joining the campaign?

00:18:13.680 I mean,

00:18:16.100 the title of my book says it all.

00:18:17.920 It is truly for love of country.

00:18:20.460 And because I know firsthand what's at stake in this election.

00:18:24.220 You know,

00:18:25.140 so often we have elections that are kind of reduced to partisan differences of,

00:18:32.360 well,

00:18:32.480 you know,

00:18:32.760 Democrats think this and Republicans think that.

00:18:35.540 But this election is very different.

00:18:37.660 It's much bigger than one party versus another.

00:18:40.860 What's at stake here is freedom and the fact that we have a candidate and Donald Trump who believes in freedom and the Constitution and who I and I've had personal conversations with him who understands the cost of war.

00:18:56.720 And the seriousness of the fact that because of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden,

00:19:02.940 we are closer to the brink of nuclear war now than ever before.

00:19:07.880 That's a serious issue that he looks forward to as president, commander in chief to taking on and walking us back from the brink of war.

00:19:16.100 And you contrast that with Kamala Harris,

00:19:18.840 who in so many ways over the last three and a half years has shown that she will not hesitate to undermine our freedoms. 1.00

00:19:26.320 We just saw Mark Zuckerberg come out publicly and say,

00:19:29.440 yeah,

00:19:29.900 Joe Biden and Kamala Harris essentially bullied Facebook into censoring Americans free speech.

00:19:36.260 We've seen the political retaliation against Donald Trump.

00:19:38.960 We've seen the political retaliation against the free speech of everyday Americans.

00:19:42.860 And I'm the most recent target for the Kamala Harris administration for criticizing Kamala Harris.

00:19:49.120 They put me on a secret domestic terror watch list,

00:19:51.880 which I'm told is still operational and still going on and on the issue of war and peace,

00:19:58.900 which doesn't get talked about often enough in these presidential elections,

00:20:02.680 but really is core to our ability to live in a free and peaceful and prosperous society.

00:20:09.360 Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have gotten us embroiled in multiple wars in different parts of the world.

00:20:15.240 And it is directly because of their foreign policy that we sit here one spark away from nuclear war.

00:20:24.000 So are you were you shocked?

00:20:26.960 Because I was shocked.

00:20:27.960 It was almost like part of her acceptance speech at the convention was written by John Bolton.

00:20:34.280 She was I mean, she sounded like an absolute hawk, like Lindsey Graham when it comes to war. 0.98

00:20:43.520 Did you feel that way?

00:20:45.380 I did.

00:20:46.640 I did very much so.

00:20:48.580 But it didn't it didn't surprise me because it was just another proof point showing that, you know, people.

00:20:58.460 Joe Biden hasn't been calling the shots and making decisions over the last three and a half years.

00:21:02.120 If Kamala Harris is elected president, neither will she.

00:21:05.240 She is the latest figurehead for the military industrial complex, the deep state national security state. 0.95

00:21:11.720 All of those who derive the mainstream propaganda media, those who derive power or profit from us being in a constant state of war,

00:21:21.080 wrote those talking points and that script that was fed into that teleprompter.

00:21:25.120 And Kamala Harris declared it loud and proud.

00:21:28.560 So we know exactly who she'll be working for, not for the American people, not for our national security,

00:21:33.720 nor, quite frankly, does she care one iota about those of us who wear the uniform and those who serve.

00:21:40.840 And this is very compelling, especially yesterday that that I made this announcement on the third anniversary of the Abbey Gate bombing

00:21:50.700 and Harris and Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.

00:21:53.560 So who is running the country?

00:21:59.620 And, you know, I saw, who was it?

00:22:01.680 Some Hollywood celebrity today came out and said,

00:22:04.000 it doesn't matter if she doesn't give an interview and doesn't matter if she doesn't articulate her platform. 0.71

00:22:10.420 She just has to win.

00:22:12.060 And I thought, you know, that is voting for an oligarchy. 0.86

00:22:16.820 That's that's because we don't know who's running the country right now.

00:22:21.300 It's obviously somebody or a group of people.

00:22:25.480 They have an agenda.

00:22:26.900 None of us have voted for those people.

00:22:29.040 We don't even know who it is.

00:22:31.300 We're an oligarchy.

00:22:33.700 That's exactly right.

00:22:35.020 And this is this is important for voters to recognize.

00:22:37.920 And, you know, the more of these Hollywood celebrities and other people say those kinds of things,

00:22:43.500 it just reinforces that fact and also the fact that they think that we as voters are so stupid as to fall for it,

00:22:53.700 to fall for the lie, the facade that they are that they are creating.

00:22:57.900 Yes, it is Tony Blinken who has turned the State Department, which is supposed to be the department that's responsible for diplomacy and preventing war into what is essentially a war department.

00:23:13.180 And and we see Jake Sullivan, president, who's the national security adviser in the White House.

00:23:18.960 And we see people like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton who are still calling the shots.

00:23:23.500 And many others whose faces and names will not be on the front page or on your television anytime soon,

00:23:31.720 both in the government as well as outside of the government in the military industrial complex who who are they are part of this.

00:23:41.060 They are of this cabal of of of neocon elitist warmongers who will put their power and their profits ahead of people every day of the week.

00:23:49.300 Let me let me play a couple of things for you, because Donald Trump, I think, would be wise to have you in his Department of Defense.

00:23:59.680 And there is a lot of work to do here.

00:24:02.020 Susan Rice in 2016 on the imperatives of national security.

00:24:09.900 For starters, a diverse national security workforce enables us to unlock all of our nation's talent.

00:24:19.300 There's some three hundred and twenty million people in the United States, nearly 40 percent are minorities and an increasing number of them are earning college and graduate degrees.

00:24:30.820 As America becomes more diverse, so to do our best people.

00:24:36.520 The next Colin Powell or Madeleine Albright or Bill Richardson.

00:24:41.080 Stop. She goes on for I don't want to waste your time.

00:24:43.780 She goes on and she says in that inclusion is a national security imperative.

00:24:49.800 Now I want you to listen to the lieutenant colonel who is a man posing as a woman who is with Space Force.

00:24:59.400 Listen to this.

00:25:00.860 So inclusion is a national security imperative.

00:25:05.120 We fight today and we are going to fight in the future using brain power.

00:25:12.240 And if that brain who's going to revolutionize the way we fight in space, we fight in cyber, just happens to be in a trans body, you should want them all serving alongside me.

00:25:23.860 And for your organizations, it's the same way.

00:25:27.200 Those perspectives that we get from a diverse set of individuals, it's been talked about on stage a lot regarding the science behind high performing teams.

00:25:35.320 We need those perspectives.

00:25:36.800 But it's inclusion that actually drives that because you can bring people in.

00:25:42.240 And if they don't feel safe to speak up, if they don't feel safe to bring their full selves to work, you're not going to get the value of the diversity.

00:25:50.720 Okay. So, Tulsi, the kind of inclusion that I look for and I think most Americans are for is diversity of thought.

00:26:00.860 Somebody at the table who has the guts to say, General, Mr. President, please do not do that and here's why.

00:26:09.140 We are focused on all the wrong kind of inclusion that means nothing to people.

00:26:15.940 Well, where does this fit on a priority list for you?

00:26:23.960 Well, the fact that they care more about the color of your skin or how you identify or your sexuality than they do about your capability and what you bring to the table in service to our country is really indicative of their entire philosophy of their identity policy.

00:26:45.940 And it's put our country in a dangerous place.

00:26:49.480 I've served now in the Army for over 21 years.

00:26:52.520 And I can tell you, having people surrounding myself with people in different positions.

00:26:57.520 I started as a private.

00:26:59.340 I'm now a lieutenant colonel.

00:27:01.000 I tell my soldiers now, I'm a battalion commander.

00:27:04.180 I tell them, if you disagree with my plan or my position, I want you to tell me that you disagree and tell me why because you may have a better idea.

00:27:13.980 That's exactly what we should be looking for, that diversity of thought, that environment that is inclusive of people who have a different way of doing things so that we can come up with the best plan, the best course of action, the best outcome.

00:27:29.500 And that's true of the military and every agency across the government.

00:27:32.980 That, to me, is what real leadership is about.

00:27:35.580 And that is essential that that changes, another one of the many reasons why it's important that Donald Trump wins this election.

00:27:42.760 So a couple of other questions, and I'll let you go.

00:27:47.900 You debated Kamala, and you pretty much wiped the floor with her. 1.00

00:27:55.420 What advice are you giving to Donald Trump, if any?

00:27:59.860 And what do you think about the attempt to change the rules now by Kamala in the debate?

00:28:08.600 Yeah, you know, Donald Trump is not a politician.

00:28:12.020 I think that's what a lot of people really, really love about him.

00:28:14.260 And so it wouldn't surprise you to know, Glenn, that he doesn't do debate prep like a typical politician would.

00:28:22.380 But it's been great to be able to spend some time with him and his team.

00:28:28.120 Really, for me, if there's anything that I can help with at all, it is just the fact that I've shared a stage with Kamala Harris.

00:28:33.920 I know how she thinks and how she's going to try to lay some traps, try to bait Donald Trump into walking into the narrative that she's going to try to push for the American people.

00:28:47.860 And quite frankly, how she's going to try, how she will try to hide her record.

00:28:54.460 That, to me, is the biggest thing.

00:28:56.320 She says one thing that is directly opposite to what her record shows.

00:29:01.680 And so this really will be an opportunity for Donald Trump to expose that to the American people.

00:29:10.500 And to your second question about, you know, Kamala Harris is trying to change the rules here now less than two weeks before the debate. 1.00

00:29:16.640 I think it points to that fact, points to her weakness that the American people need to see.

00:29:22.620 She's demanding that the debate be seated and that she be allowed to bring in notes into the debate. 1.00

00:29:28.760 Why does she need notes? If she knows the issues, if she knows her stance on the most important policies and the challenges the American people are facing today, why does she need notes?

00:29:39.120 Well, we know why. It goes back to the thing we started our conversation with is because she needs someone else to tell her what to say.

00:29:45.500 Yep. OK, last question. Yesterday, I had RFK Jr. on at this time and conservatives like me, people who have been waiting for people to wake up and see the insanity in the country are excited because you're now campaigning for Donald Trump.

00:30:03.260 RFK is campaigning for Donald Trump. And it seems like there are people waking up to see this this party that says that they are protecting democracy is the furthest thing from, you know, defenders of democracy.

00:30:21.420 Do you see people waking up? Have you have you experienced you think it's happening or are we being too hopeful?

00:30:29.940 No, it is. And this is I'll give you just two brief anecdotes that happened within the last 24 hours.

00:30:37.740 I landed in an airport late last night at about 11 o'clock at night, was walking off the plane and a guy named Jake walked up to me and said, hey, you know, I really appreciate what you did today.

00:30:47.100 And and he talked about his family. His family comes from a long line of traditional Democrat, you know, construction union, hardworking American families.

00:30:56.780 They voted Democrat almost their entire lives. And it is not until just recently, just over these past few days that they have he got calls from his dad yesterday after I made my announcement.

00:31:08.240 And he said, wait, hold on a second. What's going on here? I need to pay closer attention to this and rethink the way that I thought I was going to vote.

00:31:16.780 Second story, there's a teacher at a small private school who I met during my campaign for for the presidency in 2020 follows me on Instagram.

00:31:25.380 He talks about real education, not the broken education system. But he has always voted for a third party candidate.

00:31:32.100 He voted for me, but he had voted for third party candidates. And that's what he was going to do.

00:31:35.980 And his statement yesterday to me and on his Instagram was, hey, I think we need to rethink things.

00:31:42.920 If Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard and other common sense minded Americans who we support are now endorsing Donald Trump, I he's like, I need to check myself.

00:31:53.800 I need to look in the mirror and say, what am I doing to actually make a difference rather than just make a statement?

00:32:00.240 That is that is fantastic news. Tulsi, thank you for everything. And I'll see you Friday and Saturday. Right.

00:32:07.540 For the March for Children. Yes, I will see you there. I look forward to it.

00:32:11.920 OK. All right. Bye bye.

00:32:16.880 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:32:23.800 Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:32:25.660 So several times Bill Maher has called out Kamala for not doing interviews and he's particularly pointed out she needs to do interviews with people who are, quote, more centrist like me.

00:32:39.780 She needs to win his audience over.

00:32:43.520 Well, Quentin Tarantino was on and he says actually doing interviews is a really good thing.

00:32:49.920 Can we play cut seven here real quick?

00:32:51.780 It's amazing.

00:32:54.580 I think there's just all about winning the election. All right.

00:32:57.520 And then the easiest path to winning the election.

00:33:01.020 Look, you can talk about maybe she should have had more guts about this or that and the other.

00:33:04.480 But we're the president. Right.

00:33:06.960 And Trump's not the president. And we're the president.

00:33:09.480 And now it's going to be about this. But this is about winning.

00:33:12.880 What what most people don't give the Democrats enough credit for.

00:33:19.120 All right. But we give the Republicans credit for it's like, no, sometimes it's just about winning and it doesn't matter how we look at this moment.

00:33:26.460 It's about winning. Right.

00:33:27.960 This is about winning. Yeah.

00:33:31.560 OK, we got it. When we got it, we got it.

00:33:34.020 That's fantastic. So what is he saying?

00:33:36.320 She doesn't he was defending that she doesn't have any policy points out and that she hasn't done any interviews.

00:33:42.540 He is pushing for a machine. He's saying the machine is already in.

00:33:48.180 It's already running. She doesn't matter. 0.75

00:33:51.500 So just win. That is a little terrifying.

00:33:55.740 And I think people are starting to wake up to it, as evidenced by RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard and others that are starting to say, I'm questioning my involvement with the Democrats.

00:34:10.280 Is all of this making any difference at all looking at the polls?

00:34:18.200 Well, it's still too early to tell. Right. All this stuff just happened.

00:34:21.580 The RFK endorsement, the Tulsi endorsement, the Democratic National Convention is going on.

00:34:26.960 You know, is the poll bounce, I should say, is still going to be going on.

00:34:30.600 You'd expect. Every time you have a convention, you have a bounce in most circumstances, usually two to three points.

00:34:37.040 You'd expect that to kind of kick in this week.

00:34:38.820 So the polling should be very good for Kamala Harris this week if historical patterns sort of follow the norms. 0.99

00:34:46.160 In this election, it's always difficult to say that something's going to follow the norms.

00:34:49.360 But that is what we would expect in this situation.

00:34:51.920 Right. Now, I've talked to a lot of people who are looking for hoping for Trump to win here.

00:34:57.000 And I've sensed, I don't know if you sensed this, Glenn, a lot of pessimism lately over the past week or two.

00:35:03.140 Like, walking very close to the edge of the cliff, considering jumping off, but maybe not quite have taken the leap yet.

00:35:11.380 I think everybody is in that position on both sides.

00:35:14.100 I think both sides have good days and bad days where you're like, we're going to win.

00:35:17.960 And the next day, you're like, heavens, where there's no way we can win.

00:35:21.500 Yeah. I think everybody's feeling that way.

00:35:23.280 Yeah. And I felt it was like universal confidence for most on the right when Biden was the nominee.

00:35:29.960 And now we're into the point of the opposite.

00:35:32.300 It's a universal pessimism now that Kamala is the nominee, which is incredible.

00:35:35.860 But you should look back at Kamala's history a little bit.

00:35:38.740 I think people forget the 2019 campaign and think Kamala Harris just failed.

00:35:44.020 And it was a different kind of failure than most other failures, if you will.

00:35:50.060 When she launched her campaign, this is the period we're in now.

00:35:53.460 When she launched her campaign in 2019, she literally rocketed all the way to the top of the gambling markets for Democratic nominee. 1.00

00:36:03.540 Her launch was really good in 2019.

00:36:06.220 It was really positive.

00:36:07.320 She had a well-attended speech.

00:36:08.660 People were going crazy.

00:36:09.880 She got all sorts of incredible media attention around that time.

00:36:14.560 And she actually went ahead of Bernie.

00:36:16.680 She went ahead of Biden and went into first place in the betting markets.

00:36:22.180 Do you remember what I said about her?

00:36:24.660 The first time I saw her on the campaign trail, she was doing something, I don't remember.

00:36:32.320 And she was giving an interview.

00:36:34.580 And I came in and I said, I think I'm concerned about her.

00:36:38.660 Yeah, I know.

00:36:39.880 She's relatable.

00:36:41.040 She seems nice.

00:36:43.140 Now, all of that stuff has been disproven.

00:36:46.600 But it was, again, that feeling that she gave everybody at the speech, that if that's the snapshot you get of her, you're like, I like her.

00:36:58.200 Yeah, and I think, you know, we talked about this at the time and were mocked by some for that.

00:37:01.960 And, you know, of course, she wound up being vice president of the United States. 0.91

00:37:04.700 We were talking about her in sort of a long shot capacity.

00:37:08.180 Who's the person outside of the major features who could make a run at this?

00:37:11.520 And she did make a run. 0.99

00:37:13.000 She actually made a second run during the campaign during one of the debates. 0.97

00:37:17.360 Now, remember, we're all looking at this debate coming up and saying, oh, well, Donald Trump's going to crush her.

00:37:22.420 Well, she has had minimal but existing success at debates.

00:37:28.940 When she went up against Joe Biden, she did the very pre-planned story, again, brought herself to script.

00:37:35.720 That's what her goal is always in these moments, to take herself from an off-script moment but bring herself back to script.

00:37:41.840 And she was able to do a scripted moment where she basically called Joe Biden a big, fat racist. 0.59

00:37:45.760 And that was successful.

00:37:47.840 And she actually, once again, for the second time during the campaign cycle, went up to first place in the betting markets.

00:37:54.680 I believe she was second or third in the actual polls at that point.

00:37:58.540 And that is a significant thing.

00:38:00.600 The point I make, the reason I make that point is because she also then collapsed in both circumstances,

00:38:06.820 took a lead that she had been given and squandered it into miserable failure.

00:38:13.220 And then she didn't even make it to Iowa.

00:38:15.420 So that is, that, that though came from time.

00:38:19.880 Yep.

00:38:20.700 And time is limited.

00:38:21.620 The one thing that we don't have.

00:38:23.360 Yes.

00:38:24.060 That happened in about three months, which is about what we had from the very beginning of this campaign.

00:38:29.080 And one way to look at this campaign, if you kind of want to look at it now, and you're saying, okay, well, she's,

00:38:33.640 sure, she was able to avoid some interviews at the beginning.

00:38:36.300 She's now been able to avoid about a third of the campaign doing any interviews or presenting any policies.

00:38:41.880 It's a 15-week campaign for her, and she's through five.

00:38:46.400 And we should note, she said, when finally asked briefly on the runway whether she would ever do an interview,

00:38:53.900 she said she would schedule one by the end of the month.

00:38:57.540 Well, it's August 27th.

00:38:59.500 Okay?

00:38:59.880 We have nothing on the schedule.

00:39:02.260 Also, she didn't promise to do one in August.

00:39:04.660 She just said she would schedule one in August.

00:39:06.580 So it's very possible she schedules an interview for the year 2038, and we never actually know.

00:39:13.020 Well, if she does do an interview, you know, it's probably going to be a softball interview anyway. 1.00

00:39:19.480 But it will make, the longer she waits, the more important that interview is.

00:39:23.720 Right.

00:39:23.920 But, I mean, if I were her and her campaign and did not care about the country, in fact, probably wanted to destroy it,

00:39:30.200 I would recommend her doing something like Rachel Maddow, who will present, who will come up with a modestly intellectual interview

00:39:38.800 that is incredibly tilted in her favor to present her with every opportunity not to make a mistake.

00:39:44.700 And while a lot of people will mock her for doing that, you know, the media doesn't seem to care about it much at all,

00:39:51.060 although maybe some of the pressure is increasing.

00:39:53.200 Axios had an interesting story on this front today.

00:39:56.580 But when it comes to the state of the race, and I do a podcast, by the way, called State of the Race.

00:40:03.640 It's available on the Studos America feed, wherever you get your audio podcasts.

00:40:06.720 And we update this a couple times a week with, you know, sort of larger in-depth looks at this type of stuff.

00:40:12.940 But if you look back at June, mid-June, okay, this is before the debate, Donald Trump is at 44.6% in the polls.

00:40:22.020 Currently, he's at 44.4% in the polls.

00:40:26.020 So there's been almost no change at all from before the debates to right now when it comes to the support level for Donald Trump.

00:40:35.900 What has changed here is Kamala Harris, who went – it was actually Joe Biden back in mid-June, of course – but has gone from basically 42 to 47.

00:40:47.500 So at the time, Donald Trump's got about a two-point lead over Biden.

00:40:50.160 Now he trails by about three points, two and a half, to Kamala.

00:40:55.600 Still all of it in the margin of error.

00:40:58.020 All of it in the margin of error on both sides.

00:41:00.280 You know, that is important to point out, Glenn.

00:41:04.520 But where did this 5% come from? 0.69

00:41:09.320 Largely, it came from RFK.

00:41:11.400 What you had is a situation where a decent amount, about 5% of people who would typically vote for Biden, were over to the RFK side of things because they looked at Biden as embarrassing and unpalatable.

00:41:24.100 Like, they just – they're normally left-wing type voters.

00:41:26.960 They looked at Biden just like, this is – I can't justify this.

00:41:31.300 This is insane.

00:41:32.420 He can't even speak.

00:41:33.340 He can't walk.

00:41:34.160 They were in that category.

00:41:36.160 And what happened with the Harris change is that that Biden problem that was somewhat unique to Biden was cured by Harris.

00:41:46.260 The people who were RFK supporters that were Democrat-leaning largely left RFK and went over to Harris.

00:41:53.580 That caused, you know, RFK's percentages to go from about 10% to about 5%.

00:42:00.040 That was basically the loss there.

00:42:03.420 And one of the reasons why RFK looked at the polls and said, okay, like, we're going the wrong direction here.

00:42:08.480 Let's look at a different approach to still make a difference.

00:42:10.780 And that's when he started calling around and wound up talking to Donald Trump and makes this endorsement.

00:42:15.420 Now, when you look at that problem where – that is solved for Democrats, it still existed for Republicans.

00:42:23.000 Before Harris steps into the race, RFK Jr. is typically hurting Biden more than he's hurting Trump.

00:42:31.120 When Harris steps in, that reverses.

00:42:33.580 And it winds up being much more significant to Donald Trump than it was to Kamala Harris.

00:42:39.920 The Harris people who were thinking about Harris went to Harris when she's dropped into the race, where that was not the case with Biden.

00:42:47.880 So you have this situation where RFK now presents an almost unique risk to Trump rather than to Biden.

00:42:54.640 RFK Jr. talked about that in his speech and talked about it in the interview a little bit with you yesterday.

00:42:59.320 He became something that was not hurting both sides equally or, as it was earlier in the campaign where he was hurting Biden more, he became a candidate that was hurting Trump a lot more.

00:43:12.500 Now, when you go through this – and I went through a few dozen polls from the Biden era and the Harris era to try to look at the effects there.

00:43:20.800 And we did see that play out, where about 65% of the voters that were in the RFK people category were Trump-leaning voters, and only about 30% to 35% of those people were Kamala voters.

00:43:37.240 There's also a contingency of people who are going to vote third party or maybe not vote at all.

00:43:41.400 You kind of throw them out for the time being.

00:43:43.560 For this exercise, it was about two to one when it comes to Trump voters versus Kamala voters.

00:43:49.060 When you go through all of that and break it all down, it looks to be a little bit over a point, between 1.2% and 1.5% movement toward Donald Trump here.

00:44:01.160 And you might look at that and say, well, that's not that big of a deal, right?

00:44:04.300 1.2, 1.5 points.

00:44:06.940 It is in this race.

00:44:07.920 In a race – exactly, Glenn.

00:44:09.200 In a race like this, that is massive.

00:44:11.320 It's almost impossible to move a race like this by that – 1.00

00:44:17.740 Without Google.

00:44:18.420 Without Google, without some major development, right?

00:44:21.800 And this is, I would say, in the category of a major development.

00:44:25.340 Some people are trying to demean it.

00:44:27.380 Other people have tried to run the same analysis.

00:44:29.600 Nate Silver ran a similar analysis.

00:44:32.040 He's running a much more, I'm sure, high-level analysis than I am with my stupid Excel sheet.

00:44:37.460 But he came up with about 0.6 points of effect.

00:44:41.740 But even 0.6 points is a massive, massive difference in a race like this. 0.92

00:44:48.500 And if you think about the way this race has unfolded, you have a situation where Joe Biden went through about five of the worst weeks humanly possible for a campaign, right?

00:45:00.660 He had the horrible debate performance.

00:45:02.820 His opponent had charges against him dropped.

00:45:07.240 We forget that that occurred.

00:45:08.820 It was almost like not even a factor.

00:45:10.980 His opponent had an assassination attempt against him.

00:45:14.560 He had terrible interviews, terrible press conferences.

00:45:18.140 I mean, it was as bad as it could possibly be.

00:45:20.760 When that was over –

00:45:21.880 Followed by a great convention.

00:45:23.640 Followed by a great convention by the Republicans.

00:45:26.400 When all of that was over, Donald Trump led the national polls by about three points.

00:45:31.940 Three points.

00:45:32.920 That was it.

00:45:33.400 Three points.

00:45:34.320 After all of that, Kamala Harris comes in. 0.85

00:45:37.180 She's named the nominee.

00:45:38.880 She has five of the best weeks possible for any campaign. 0.87

00:45:42.500 Every single piece of media that comes out about her is positive over and over again.

00:45:47.980 She's treated as the new Rosa Parks.

00:45:49.780 She is the queen of all of the world.

00:45:53.000 They have this big convention.

00:45:55.160 Arguably goes pretty well.

00:45:57.160 She gives a speech that was well-received.

00:45:59.500 All of that happens, and now she, in polling averages, leads by about three points. 0.70

00:46:06.060 The entire range of outcomes for this election is probably something like Trump plus four to Trump minus four.

00:46:14.360 Maybe there's a little more on the margins of that, but not much.

00:46:16.980 And so when you can move one point of voters in an election like that, that is a massive, massive difference.

00:46:24.340 And that's why it is a big deal for the RFK Jr. endorsement.

00:46:30.420 People are trying to downplay it on the left, but I don't think that's wise.

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