Vivek Ramaswamy joins us to talk about the gun show loophole, the acrobatic horse show, and why he doesn t want to sell his house. Plus, we talk about how much money you should get if you own a gun.
00:00:00.000So we talked a lot about a lot today. A lot. We had a lot on the program. We had Vivek Ramaswamy. Yeah. And I think we asked him the tough questions that a lot of people want to know about Vivek. He's coming back to answer that. You just call him Vivek? Vivek. Yeah. You're just like, what's up, Vivek? He's Vivek. Who is friends? He's Vivek. So you're not even on a first name basis. You're just calling him Vivek now. Yeah. That's interesting. Right. I'm sure he'll appreciate that. It's like I don't call you Stuart. That's right.
00:00:28.580You shortened it to Vivek. Yeah. Because I was thinking about because it's Vivek like cake. And I think I just started calling him Vivek because I'm always thinking about cake. That's true. You know. Anyway. So we had Vivek on. He was forthcoming. But you'll have to decide. Asked him some real tough questions. We also kind of exposed a couple of other things that I think is very valuable to you.
00:00:58.120One is the multi-million dollar fiasco of the acrobatic horse show.
00:01:10.640I know. Right? How did you not hear about it? Well, you're about to on today's podcast.
00:01:16.520Okay. So now here is the thing. There is this gun show loophole. You know that, Stu, right? Huge loophole.
00:01:38.900Almost all guns are bought through the gun show loophole.
00:02:14.680Who is selling their guns. And because they're a private seller and not a business, they are able, they don't have to go through all of the background checks.
00:02:22.700Go, Speed Racer. Go. You got it. Okay.
00:02:25.380Very small percentage of guns sold this way.
00:02:27.260Like, very small. Yes. Very small. And basically what he said is absolutely right. It's a private seller.
00:02:34.180So if I have a gun to sell, and I'm not a gun, you know, a gun store, I don't have my license, my FFL, I can sell my gun.
00:02:45.220But it's a private transaction between two people. Okay.
00:02:48.640Well, you now have to prove that you're not in business looking for profit on your gun.
00:05:18.980And so, the ATF has said, oh, okay, well, we're going to keep you safe by closing that gun show loophole, by making sure anyone who ever sells a gun has to prove to us that they're not profiting off of it.
00:06:36.660An increasing number of individuals engaged in the business of selling firearms for profit have chosen not to register as a federal firearms license, licensee, as required by law.
00:06:48.480Instead, they've sought to make money through the off-book illicit sales of firearms.
00:07:35.100So, notice it is clearly, they are clearly going after and saying, these people are trying to make money on the off-book illegal sale, illicit sale of firearms.
00:07:51.700These activities undermine the law, endanger public safety, create significant burdens on law enforcement, and are unfair to the many licensed dealers.
00:08:30.840ATF has issued rules that would apply more security checks on gun owners and sellers who use unregulated stabilizing braces to effectively transform pistols into more deadly rifles.
00:10:49.360Congress, the reason why we're having these problems is because they didn't want to be held responsible for anything.
00:10:56.020They gave up their power, and they gave it to the administrative state, which now means the presidency, the administrative state, is actually the state.
00:11:10.980Congress is just like something you would put in your curio cabinet.
00:11:15.260It was something, honestly, I should have all of the members of Congress and the Senate, and I should lock them in the American Journey Experience vault.
00:11:23.520It's a cute little curio from a time gone by that is no longer of any use.
00:15:50.220Well, they're going to get harder from here.
00:15:51.560Wikipedia editor alleges that you paid to have your Wikipedia page edited to remove you receiving the Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowship for New Americans and your role in Ohio's COVID-19 response team.
00:16:15.860So before I ran for president, there were a lot of falsehoods on my Wikipedia page.
00:16:21.260And it was clearly being, and it is actively over the course of this campaign, been manipulated by opposition research.
00:16:29.200It said things like, at times, me being born in India, my wife, and facts about her that were incorrect, up to and including her name.
00:16:36.600And so before I ran, yes, I wanted to make sure that the public was aware of exactly what the right facts were.
00:16:43.940The fact of the matter is the Ohio COVID-19 response team wasn't actually ever a formally titled body.
00:16:51.160There was a lieutenant governor in Ohio who remains a friend of mine to this day who asked me if he could call me from time to time to get basic advice through the process.
00:18:11.400I wasn't micromanaging what exactly this page is edited or not.
00:18:15.720What you want is actually a statement of what's important coming up first in your heading.
00:18:20.140So if somebody else has gone out of their way in the early paragraphs of your description to the world at the age of 37, having achieved a lot of things, and then the first thing is some random scholarship you got at the age of 24, that's manipulation.
00:18:34.540And one of the things I've learned in this process, Glenn, is there's a lot of left-wing media manipulation, but there's media manipulation 360 degrees, driven by not just fake news media, but a lot of fake establishment candidates, too, who are threatened by my rise.
00:18:50.260And literally Wikipedia, even to this day, it's like a war on my Wikipedia page.
00:18:55.600And so my view is we've got to just speak the truth.
00:18:58.720I have actually been completely transparent about this silly Soros scholarship that's a brother of George Soros, not related to him, at the age of 24 that I want easily Googleable, a generic scholarship that I would have had to have been a fool to turn down at the age of 24 from a guy who's long dead, who's a totally different person from George Soros when I'm in my early 20s.
00:19:21.660And I don't cast a spursion on others, but there are other candidates who have gotten a $160 million loan from Soros, others who have been endorsed.
00:19:29.820And so, yeah, I think that we can play this silly game, but I think it's important that we stick to the facts.
00:19:33.740Okay, so it is George Soros's brother, and they are not, I mean, they are related, but they do not share the same outlook on taking over the world, is my understanding.
00:20:22.600So one thing I'll say, Glenn, is even if I did have a million dollars post-tax in the bank account, I still would have been a fool to turn down $50,000 of a merit-based scholarship that other kids who are going to Yale Law School are winning, whether or not you have that money.
00:20:36.760I'd still say advise the 24-year-old version of myself to take it.
00:20:45.540People know this because I released 20 years of tax returns in the early weeks of this campaign, something that no presidential candidate has ever done.
00:21:47.920And we sued them and won since then is the answer and held them accountable to make sure they would never do it, not just to me, but even people like you, Glenn, or people like Elon Musk or others who have also been opponents that they've tried to name in different capacities.
00:22:01.940Well, here's the thing that I take issue with.
00:22:06.040I believe it came from your camp that I was also nominated for some award or something from Soros or the WEF.
00:22:14.860And I can tell you that's not true because, I mean, I would have taken it because, I mean, do I get to go over to the ski lodge?
00:23:09.500Now, MSNBC hosted all the Democratic primary candidates.
00:23:12.860I said, you know what, I'm going to go check it out.
00:23:14.300I asked him a question and I said, hey, why should I vote for you in the primary if, you know, you're the least experienced, which is a funny question and ironic on many levels.
00:23:24.960It's given that I'm an outsider running now.
00:23:26.900But the truth is, I didn't vote Democrat.
00:24:01.620I didn't find these figures inspiring.
00:24:03.980But I came to my views through my experiences, Glenn.
00:24:07.980When I was a biotech CEO, when I had to make or was supposedly forced, and I refused to do it, to make a statement on behalf of Black Lives Matter while I'm developing medicines that are saving people's lives and I refused to do it.
00:24:20.900And that puts me in a difficult position in my industry as a leader.
00:24:24.800Those are the kinds of experiences that shaped my vehemence in crusading first, not even in politics, but against this trend of woke capitalism and stakeholder capitalism and ESG.
00:24:39.220That's where I began, not in partisan politics.
00:24:42.580And even now, I'm not a party man, Glenn.
00:24:44.840I'm using the Republican Party as a vehicle to advance a positive, nationalistic, pro-American vision for this country.
00:24:52.760And so, you know, if people want somebody who was born in Republican jerseys and talks in Republican talking points, I'm not their guy and I wasn't at the age of 18 either.
00:25:01.420I'm somebody who thinks independently.
00:25:03.260I'm a patriot who cares about this country and speaks the truth.
00:25:05.900And you know what, if I'm 18 years old and I'm exploring in college, yes, if there's a forum where somebody who disagrees with me, Al Sharpton, shows up, I'm going to go up, show up, ask questions.
00:25:15.860And yes, I did vote libertarian that year, guilty as charged.
00:25:18.700That's just part of who I am and people should know it.
00:25:21.160I need to know because I respect your time and I did this with Donald Trump and I had to leave questions on the table.
00:28:00.840And so for so many reasons, this cannot be a razor thin margin.
00:28:04.760Unlike many people, I actually do believe Donald Trump can defeat Joe Biden,
00:28:08.920but I think it'll be razor thin and tight.
00:28:10.840And I think it is dangerous for this country if we get to a place where CNN and MSNBC are trotting out the winner the Monday after the election.
00:30:15.800I think we need a commander-in-chief who shares those values in common.
00:30:18.640And as somebody who has been educated in Christian high school, has, if I may say it, Glenn, myself, read the Bible more closely than most of my Christian friends,
00:30:28.400I can say with certitude that we share the same value set in common of sacrifice, of duty, of a belief that God put each of us here for a reason,
00:30:40.240that we're here for a purpose, that there's more to life than just the aimless passage of time.
00:30:45.740Think about the common thread from the Old Testament to the New.
00:30:49.360God told Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac.
00:30:51.840He didn't make him follow through with it.
00:30:53.960In the New Testament, God sacrificed his own son.
00:30:56.940That value of sacrifice, that is woven into the fabric of this country.
00:31:02.160It is woven into my own upbringing and value set, the same values we raise our two sons in.
00:31:08.020And I think, Glenn, especially because I'm a little bit different, I'm a little younger.
00:31:11.820I'm the youngest candidate to run. I'm of a different generation. Yes, I'm of a different faith, nominally.
00:31:18.260I think I'm in a better position to defend religious liberty, to actually make concepts like faith and patriotism and hard work and family cool, again, actually, for the next generation of Americans.
00:31:34.040So, no, I'm not qualified to run for pastor. I can't. That wouldn't make any sense.
00:31:39.820But when I'm running for commander-in-chief, the question is, do we share the same value set that this nation was founded on?
00:31:46.620In my case, the answer is yes. We live our life accordingly.
00:31:50.000And the standard I want everyone, including every Christian in this country, to hold me to is, do I want my two sons to grow up and be like him, whoever that is in the White House?
00:32:01.160I think that's a standard we should apply.
00:32:03.080If we're being really honest, it's been a long time, at least I'll speak for myself, where we had a president where I could, without holding my nose, tell my kids the same two things.
00:32:11.320And I think a lot of Christians across the country would say the same thing.
00:32:14.640That's the standard that I'll ask to be held to.
00:32:16.840Vivek Ramaswamy, I'd love to have you back. I've got some questions on China and everything else, but thank you so much for answering these questions.
00:32:43.580He used to be with the BBC and the good news is he was the guy that was in charge of the BBC that nixed the investigation segment about the pedophile Jimmy Saville, who was a big, big, big, big, big star in England.
00:33:44.840Um, you know, he's, I was talking to Steve Krakauer yesterday who covers the media, you know, wrote a book about it.
00:33:51.860Um, and he was saying the guy's known as sort of like more of a businessman, like he's not known as a guy who's making major editorial decisions.
00:34:00.400But if he's making decisions like that, it feels like that's the type of thing you do once and you never get another job, let alone the leadership job.
00:34:07.960Like, yeah, they're like, I'm sorry, you can't work at Nathan's hot dogs.
00:34:14.840We would, we would be using our product and we'd always be thinking about you and Jimmy Seville and we just don't want anything to do with it.
00:34:22.440Um, the, uh, the Federalist has been, uh, punished again.
00:34:29.320Uh, they will not address, um, anything, anything.
00:34:34.780Uh, apparently Instagram has slapped a false label on a report that,
00:34:42.420that was exposing the 14 American cities that are part of C40.
00:34:47.800And that is the, you know, the, the group of mayors that have said, you know, one of our, I'm going to get this exactly right.
00:34:54.640Uh, uh, uh, one of our, uh, one of our big plans or our aggressive goals, aggressive goals that we've signed on to is that you have zero meat eaten in your city.
00:36:17.060I think we use this analogy at the time, but it's like, if you tell your wife, like, look, I have an ambitious target to hook up with our babysitter.
00:37:00.600So Mark, we should, uh, Marcy Parker, uh, Darwin, uh, has announced that peanut, her chicken has just turned 21, which makes peanut the chicken in Michigan, the oldest chicken in the world that we know of, we know of 21.
00:37:21.400Cause a lot of, a lot of them don't get carded.
00:37:23.740Uh, I know, I know, but yeah, he can, but peanut can drink, can drink, can drink.