The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guest： Vivek Ramaswamy ｜ 9⧸1⧸23

00:00:00.000 So we talked a lot about a lot today. A lot. We had a lot on the program. We had Vivek Ramaswamy. Yeah. And I think we asked him the tough questions that a lot of people want to know about Vivek. He's coming back to answer that. You just call him Vivek? Vivek. Yeah. You're just like, what's up, Vivek? He's Vivek. Who is friends? He's Vivek. So you're not even on a first name basis. You're just calling him Vivek now. Yeah. That's interesting. Right. I'm sure he'll appreciate that. It's like I don't call you Stuart. That's right.

00:00:28.580 You shortened it to Vivek. Yeah. Because I was thinking about because it's Vivek like cake. And I think I just started calling him Vivek because I'm always thinking about cake. That's true. You know. Anyway. So we had Vivek on. He was forthcoming. But you'll have to decide. Asked him some real tough questions. We also kind of exposed a couple of other things that I think is very valuable to you.

00:00:58.120 One is the multi-million dollar fiasco of the acrobatic horse show.

00:01:10.640 I know. Right? How did you not hear about it? Well, you're about to on today's podcast.

00:01:16.520 Okay. So now here is the thing. There is this gun show loophole. You know that, Stu, right? Huge loophole.

00:01:38.900 Almost all guns are bought through the gun show loophole.

00:01:42.900 Yeah. Unless they're ghost guns.

00:01:46.200 Yeah. Those are the only two types of guns.

00:01:47.860 Yeah. But the kids in the mystery van have already unmasked the ghost gun.

00:01:53.820 That's true.

00:01:54.440 Okay. So. Yeah.

00:01:55.420 And they would have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for those pesky kids.

00:01:59.040 So the gun show loophole. Do you know what it is?

00:02:01.980 Yes. Yes. The gun show loophole. Yes. Go, go.

00:02:06.940 It is when you go to a gun show.

00:02:09.200 Go, Speed Racer.

00:02:10.440 And there is someone there selling a private seller.

00:02:13.580 Go, Speed Racer.

00:02:14.680 Who is selling their guns. And because they're a private seller and not a business, they are able, they don't have to go through all of the background checks.

00:02:22.700 Go, Speed Racer. Go. You got it. Okay.

00:02:25.380 Very small percentage of guns sold this way.

00:02:27.260 Like, very small. Yes. Very small. And basically what he said is absolutely right. It's a private seller.

00:02:34.180 So if I have a gun to sell, and I'm not a gun, you know, a gun store, I don't have my license, my FFL, I can sell my gun.

00:02:45.220 But it's a private transaction between two people. Okay.

00:02:48.640 Well, you now have to prove that you're not in business looking for profit on your gun.

00:03:00.540 Now, hang on. Hang on just a second.

00:03:05.020 I'm a capitalist. Okay.

00:03:09.080 And I'm looking for profit.

00:03:10.880 I don't know about anybody else, but I think pretty much everybody, when you go to work, how dare you look for profit when you're at work?

00:03:18.160 I mean, that's why we go.

00:03:20.200 Yes.

00:03:20.440 Okay. If I have a gun, and it's worth more than I paid for, and I can find somebody that wants to pay for that gun, bro, okay.

00:03:31.300 I mean, honestly, somebody just called us and said, you want to sell your house?

00:03:36.000 And I'm like, no.

00:03:38.260 We live in our house.

00:03:39.420 Yeah, we live in our house.

00:03:40.300 And they were like, but you were selling it.

00:03:42.100 And I'm like, yeah, we were.

00:03:43.720 And then it didn't sell, so we remodeled.

00:03:46.060 And now we love our house, so no, we don't want to sell.

00:03:49.420 Well, what would it take?

00:03:50.380 I came up with an enormous, crazy, outrageous number.

00:03:55.160 Okay.

00:03:55.460 Because you would, in theory, move out if they hit this.

00:03:58.420 You want to give me a crazy amount of money.

00:04:00.660 I'm like, I'm out of there tonight, man.

00:04:03.100 Right.

00:04:04.300 So, I mean, that's what you do.

00:04:06.040 You're looking for profit.

00:04:07.040 Right.

00:04:07.300 Are you looking to profit off your home?

00:04:09.300 Yes.

00:04:09.900 Oh, God.

00:04:10.280 Yes, I am.

00:04:11.480 So, here's, and I'm not actually looking for it.

00:04:14.480 If somebody, if you have a gun, and somebody said, man, I just love that.

00:04:19.500 Would you ever sell it?

00:04:21.060 Well, I mean, for the right price.

00:04:22.620 How dare you?

00:04:23.540 What do you mean the right price?

00:04:25.180 You're a businessman now.

00:04:26.520 Yes.

00:04:26.800 You're a gun seller now.

00:04:28.040 So, all of this is happening because the 2022 new law that was passed, yeah, yeah, it was passed, and it is, what is it called?

00:04:44.220 It's like the really super good and safe law.

00:04:47.900 I don't have it in front of me here.

00:04:50.380 But it was a new law passed by Congress to keep us all safe.

00:04:56.600 Keep it all safe.

00:04:57.220 I mean, common sense safety laws, you know.

00:05:01.060 And basically what it said is the exact same thing it says in every piece of legislation now.

00:05:10.060 The secretary of the ATF, the head of the ATF, can decide on the rules.

00:05:17.080 We just want you to keep us safe.

00:05:18.980 And so, the ATF has said, oh, okay, well, we're going to keep you safe by closing that gun show loophole, by making sure anyone who ever sells a gun has to prove to us that they're not profiting off of it.

00:05:34.680 Which is an insane standard.

00:05:37.920 I mean, how would you, how would anyone even prove that?

00:05:40.640 Insane.

00:05:41.160 I mean, yeah, you could say, I bought it for this, and I'm, see, they're, like, they're doing, they do this with tickets sometimes, right?

00:05:46.580 Where you buy tickets and they say you can't sell them for above face value.

00:05:50.860 Is that the standard they're going to use for this?

00:05:52.800 I mean, well, because obviously, like, a, a gun might depreciate after you buy it, right?

00:06:00.000 So, do you have to figure out what the, like, well, that sounds like you'd be a business.

00:06:04.860 I mean, honestly.

00:06:06.000 That's much more business-like.

00:06:07.720 You know, I'm, like, I don't know.

00:06:09.420 I mean, I looked on the internet.

00:06:11.460 Probably you could get one for about this price.

00:06:14.620 You know, I'll sell it to you for a little bit less or a little bit more.

00:06:20.360 That's what the average person would do.

00:06:22.020 But if I have to go, well, now, wait a minute.

00:06:24.220 Let's really look into it.

00:06:25.820 Doesn't that make me more of a business?

00:06:27.940 Seems like it.

00:06:28.760 Seems like it.

00:06:29.680 Seems like it.

00:06:30.380 Okay.

00:06:31.180 So, this is, I love, I love this.

00:06:34.260 This is from the ATF director.

00:06:36.660 An increasing number of individuals engaged in the business of selling firearms for profit have chosen not to register as a federal firearms license, licensee, as required by law.

00:06:48.480 Instead, they've sought to make money through the off-book illicit sales of firearms.

00:06:56.380 They're illicit?

00:06:57.100 Yeah.

00:06:57.660 Well, yeah, of course they are.

00:06:58.900 Yeah.

00:06:59.120 So, why wouldn't you just go after the people doing the illicit things?

00:07:03.100 If it's already illegal.

00:07:04.220 That's not what illicit means.

00:07:06.260 Illicit means something else.

00:07:08.280 Okay?

00:07:08.620 It doesn't mean that it's illegal.

00:07:10.820 I don't know.

00:07:11.300 I guess it doesn't have to be illegal.

00:07:13.380 I guess it does.

00:07:14.000 Forbidden by law rules or custom.

00:07:19.640 Okay, so.

00:07:20.040 So, maybe they could go with a custom.

00:07:22.620 See?

00:07:23.240 And that's what businesses do.

00:07:25.020 They do custom things.

00:07:26.620 Right?

00:07:27.420 Yeah.

00:07:27.820 That's a different usage of that word.

00:07:29.520 Well, okay, Webster.

00:07:31.040 Thank you for stopping by.

00:07:33.000 So, they make money.

00:07:35.100 So, notice it is clearly, they are clearly going after and saying, these people are trying to make money on the off-book illegal sale, illicit sale of firearms.

00:07:51.700 These activities undermine the law, endanger public safety, create significant burdens on law enforcement, and are unfair to the many licensed dealers.

00:08:03.100 I didn't read that before.

00:08:07.500 And make it unfair to the many licensed dealers who make a considerable effort to follow the law.

00:08:14.820 So, now they're doing this.

00:08:16.880 Yeah, because the FFL is so, they're really working hard to keep us safe.

00:08:23.240 They've been vilifying these people who are selling guns for decades. 0.53

00:08:26.100 What?

00:08:26.300 And now they're the good guys for this particular moment? 1.00

00:08:29.200 A crap heap. 0.98

00:08:30.840 ATF has issued rules that would apply more security checks on gun owners and sellers who use unregulated stabilizing braces to effectively transform pistols into more deadly rifles. 0.94

00:08:42.820 So, here's what they have to do now.

00:08:45.220 To be able to enforce this, they have to have a gun registry.

00:08:50.300 And the ATF has started a federal gun registry.

00:08:56.580 Can't do that.

00:08:57.420 Congress has been against that since 1791.

00:09:01.840 It's constantly, constantly in a new...

00:09:05.220 They don't care.

00:09:07.160 This is why you have Congress, you have the presidency, and the Supreme Court.

00:09:15.400 All of our problems stem around two things.

00:09:19.460 One, Congress has stopped doing their job.

00:09:25.640 And I'll tell you why they did it.

00:09:28.040 Because they just want to be re-elected.

00:09:30.860 That's it.

00:09:31.720 They don't want to do anything unpopular.

00:09:34.480 They just want to be the ones that you call up and say,

00:09:38.260 Hey, good job.

00:09:39.340 Or, you gotta stop these guys.

00:09:42.340 So they can be the police.

00:09:44.840 Except, they're not really the police.

00:09:47.700 Have you seen Congress actually go after the bad guys in the government?

00:09:52.380 I haven't.

00:09:53.020 Have you actually seen them stop really bad things?

00:09:56.940 Because I haven't.

00:09:58.480 What they did was say, you know what?

00:10:01.600 We're going to pass that good and plenty law.

00:10:04.840 That everybody should be good and have plenty of everything.

00:10:08.340 And we're going to transfer that good and plenty law for interpretation by the secretary of that division of the United States government.

00:10:21.360 So, the cabinet secretary, who, you know, the good and plenty law now enables, he's like, good.

00:10:29.600 Okay.

00:10:29.960 I'll tell you how we're going to make everybody good. 1.00

00:10:32.180 We're going to shoot you in the head if you're bad. 1.00

00:10:34.580 I mean, this is obviously an exaggeration, but that's what the secretary can do. 1.00

00:10:41.200 The secretary makes the law and the enforcement and everything else.

00:10:46.000 That is the job of Congress.

00:10:49.360 Congress, the reason why we're having these problems is because they didn't want to be held responsible for anything.

00:10:56.020 They gave up their power, and they gave it to the administrative state, which now means the presidency, the administrative state, is actually the state.

00:11:10.980 Congress is just like something you would put in your curio cabinet.

00:11:15.260 It was something, honestly, I should have all of the members of Congress and the Senate, and I should lock them in the American Journey Experience vault.

00:11:23.520 It's a cute little curio from a time gone by that is no longer of any use.

00:11:30.720 Let's just put it on the shelf.

00:11:32.600 That's really what it is.

00:11:34.920 And the reason why you feel so powerless is because of that.

00:11:41.020 When I say the ATF director, you know his name?

00:11:44.420 When I say, you know, the secretary of defense, do you know his name?

00:11:53.240 Maybe, maybe, most don't.

00:11:55.700 He's doing something wrong.

00:11:57.960 We got to get him out of there.

00:12:00.100 What power do you have?

00:12:02.120 What power do you have?

00:12:03.880 You have the power of Congress going to Congress and say, you got to remove this guy.

00:12:09.500 Oh, that's happening all the time.

00:12:10.940 Look at how corrupt and how out of control our government is.

00:12:16.800 They won't cut anyone's salary.

00:12:19.560 They won't fire anybody.

00:12:21.580 They won't hold anybody responsible for anything.

00:12:25.080 That's why you feel so powerless.

00:12:26.980 That's why your entire life feels like you're standing in line, ready to get your driver's license.

00:12:33.780 And when you get, and you've been there for three hours, and you get to the front of the line, and they're like, this window's closed.

00:12:39.580 And you're like, wait, but I, hold it.

00:12:42.720 You have nobody to go to because their word is the law.

00:12:48.680 This is what's happening.

00:12:54.920 This is unconstitutional in a myriad of ways.

00:13:01.000 This is why we need the RAINS Act.

00:13:04.260 And I know this is like, oh, he's talking about the RAINS Act.

00:13:09.080 Wake me up when he stops.

00:13:11.260 The RAINS Act gives the power back to Congress.

00:13:15.540 Why do you want Congress to have that power if they're so bad? 0.79

00:13:21.300 Because they are so bad, they never get anything done, which allows the states and you to regulate your life.

00:13:33.420 It allows you in your city to regulate instead of the government saying, yeah, we're going to put everybody's name on a registry.

00:13:41.860 By the way, this is so inflammatory.

00:13:48.280 They know what this causes.

00:13:51.560 This causes all kinds of agitation.

00:13:54.400 This causes all kinds of distrust.

00:13:58.280 And they're never going to come for guns.

00:14:04.680 Do you believe they'll come for guns?

00:14:07.360 They'll actually go door to door?

00:14:10.280 God, I hope not.

00:14:11.540 Because that's what?

00:14:13.240 I don't want to live in a world.

00:14:14.500 That's what?

00:14:15.220 What happens?

00:14:16.200 The worst things possible happen.

00:14:19.320 Okay, good.

00:14:20.160 Thank you.

00:14:20.680 He's being very, very careful, which I never am.

00:14:24.400 That's why he'll be testifying against me at some point.

00:14:27.740 Oh, I can't wait.

00:14:28.700 I know.

00:14:29.460 But you're right.

00:14:31.480 Americans, there's 350, almost 400 million guns now.

00:14:37.840 I think it is 400 million.

00:14:39.180 Yeah, 400 million guns.

00:14:42.400 We're not Sweden.

00:14:43.140 We're not Australia.

00:14:46.200 That ain't going to work.

00:14:48.940 Americans do know their First Amendment rights.

00:14:52.260 And you're just never going, unless you want a civil war.

00:14:57.380 So, if they want to come and get the guns, they are declaring war on the American people.

00:15:07.660 That's scary.

00:15:08.760 But, I mean, this is something they say.

00:15:11.460 They always say, oh, we love the Second Amendment. 0.98

00:15:14.120 What are you talking about?

00:15:15.120 And then they do this stuff all the time.

00:15:19.480 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

00:15:23.920 Vivek, welcome.

00:15:24.920 I know we only have a few minutes, so I want to get right into some of these things.

00:15:28.600 And it might take more than one episode here.

00:15:32.380 First of all, hello.

00:15:34.000 And my first question.

00:15:35.060 Good to talk to you.

00:15:35.380 Yeah, my first question is, please, will you verify that it is Vivek like cake?

00:15:44.040 That is correct.

00:15:45.080 Thank you.

00:15:45.700 Vivek like cake, Ramaswamy.

00:15:47.400 Okay.

00:15:47.960 That one is an easy one, Glenn.

00:15:49.080 Yeah, well, I know.

00:15:49.920 I know.

00:15:50.220 Well, they're going to get harder from here.

00:15:51.560 Wikipedia editor alleges that you paid to have your Wikipedia page edited to remove you receiving the Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowship for New Americans and your role in Ohio's COVID-19 response team.

00:16:09.240 Is that true?

00:16:11.880 Hang on.

00:16:12.300 Is that true?

00:16:13.180 And if it is, why?

00:16:15.860 So before I ran for president, there were a lot of falsehoods on my Wikipedia page.

00:16:21.260 And it was clearly being, and it is actively over the course of this campaign, been manipulated by opposition research.

00:16:29.200 It said things like, at times, me being born in India, my wife, and facts about her that were incorrect, up to and including her name.

00:16:36.600 And so before I ran, yes, I wanted to make sure that the public was aware of exactly what the right facts were.

00:16:43.940 The fact of the matter is the Ohio COVID-19 response team wasn't actually ever a formally titled body.

00:16:51.160 There was a lieutenant governor in Ohio who remains a friend of mine to this day who asked me if he could call me from time to time to get basic advice through the process.

00:17:01.300 I said, sure, I would.

00:17:02.760 I helped him with the reopening plan.

00:17:05.200 And that was a short version of the help that I provided him.

00:17:08.760 So I'm actually proud of that.

00:17:09.900 You know, when a lot of these states were going through lockdown, there was a path to reopening.

00:17:14.180 I'm a business guy.

00:17:14.920 He called me for advice on that.

00:17:16.680 I was pro reopening.

00:17:18.600 And, you know, to this day, people can call him.

00:17:20.500 I'm sure he would say the same thing.

00:17:22.140 Did you ever go for lockdowns, mandates?

00:17:28.200 Nope.

00:17:28.620 None of that.

00:17:29.320 Absolutely not.

00:17:30.120 Okay.

00:17:30.400 I've been dead set against it.

00:17:31.560 And I was a force for good in the state of Ohio here.

00:17:34.580 So John Husted, I'm sure, would confirm that, who was the person on the receiving end of those phone calls that I made.

00:17:39.400 Why wouldn't you just have them, I mean, because you were on the response team as much as there existed a response team.

00:17:47.060 You did get the Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowship for New Americans.

00:17:50.780 It's easily findable on the Internet.

00:17:53.180 It's like literally.

00:17:54.480 But why would you remove those things instead of clarifying?

00:17:58.580 Well, and I think the truth is that that headline was itself generated to create this appearance that we're somehow manipulating this.

00:18:07.560 There was about five other just outright false things.

00:18:10.840 And you know what?

00:18:11.400 I wasn't micromanaging what exactly this page is edited or not.

00:18:15.720 What you want is actually a statement of what's important coming up first in your heading.

00:18:20.140 So if somebody else has gone out of their way in the early paragraphs of your description to the world at the age of 37, having achieved a lot of things, and then the first thing is some random scholarship you got at the age of 24, that's manipulation.

00:18:34.540 And one of the things I've learned in this process, Glenn, is there's a lot of left-wing media manipulation, but there's media manipulation 360 degrees, driven by not just fake news media, but a lot of fake establishment candidates, too, who are threatened by my rise.

00:18:50.260 And literally Wikipedia, even to this day, it's like a war on my Wikipedia page.

00:18:54.300 No, I know. Please.

00:18:55.600 And so my view is we've got to just speak the truth.

00:18:58.720 I have actually been completely transparent about this silly Soros scholarship that's a brother of George Soros, not related to him, at the age of 24 that I want easily Googleable, a generic scholarship that I would have had to have been a fool to turn down at the age of 24 from a guy who's long dead, who's a totally different person from George Soros when I'm in my early 20s.

00:19:21.660 And I don't cast a spursion on others, but there are other candidates who have gotten a $160 million loan from Soros, others who have been endorsed.

00:19:29.820 And so, yeah, I think that we can play this silly game, but I think it's important that we stick to the facts.

00:19:33.740 Okay, so it is George Soros's brother, and they are not, I mean, they are related, but they do not share the same outlook on taking over the world, is my understanding.

00:19:49.580 That's correct.

00:20:19.580 That's right for that scholarship.

00:20:20.900 It wasn't a need-based scholarship.

00:20:22.600 So one thing I'll say, Glenn, is even if I did have a million dollars post-tax in the bank account, I still would have been a fool to turn down $50,000 of a merit-based scholarship that other kids who are going to Yale Law School are winning, whether or not you have that money.

00:20:36.760 I'd still say advise the 24-year-old version of myself to take it.

00:20:40.340 But I did see that false headline.

00:20:42.300 How do people know this, Glenn?

00:20:43.740 It's worth double-clicking on that.

00:20:45.540 People know this because I released 20 years of tax returns in the early weeks of this campaign, something that no presidential candidate has ever done.

00:20:53.540 This is unprecedented transparency.

00:20:55.760 And, you know, of course, no good deed goes unpunished.

00:20:57.860 But we're actually running this campaign with unprecedented transparency because that's the way we're going to run the government.

00:21:04.420 So I published something that, you know, from Trump on down, nobody's ever done it.

00:21:08.760 Put up 20 years of tax records.

00:21:10.460 Someone as wealthy and successful as I've been, that's against the better advice of advisors.

00:21:14.800 I said, no, we're going to do that.

00:21:16.680 Someone then picks on that and says, oh, well, didn't that year you earn it?

00:21:20.040 You get paid at a year-end bonus.

00:21:21.320 That was the first year I ever made real money.

00:21:23.380 That was after I had applied for that scholarship.

00:21:25.800 But I'll always contend with the facts.

00:21:28.040 And those are the facts there, Glenn.

00:21:29.280 So the next question that's being brought up is the WEF tried to name you as a young global leader.

00:21:35.720 You were on their website.

00:21:36.940 You eventually had to sue.

00:21:38.400 I'm not going to ask this question because it's already been asked and answered on this program.

00:21:42.540 And you can find that on this program.

00:21:45.560 We went into great detail about it.

00:21:47.920 And we sued them and won since then is the answer and held them accountable to make sure they would never do it, not just to me, but even people like you, Glenn, or people like Elon Musk or others who have also been opponents that they've tried to name in different capacities.

00:22:01.940 Well, here's the thing that I take issue with.

00:22:06.040 I believe it came from your camp that I was also nominated for some award or something from Soros or the WEF.

00:22:14.860 And I can tell you that's not true because, I mean, I would have taken it because, I mean, do I get to go over to the ski lodge?

00:22:22.980 What comes with it?

00:22:23.940 Face off for the Elon, Peter Keel, a bunch of these other folks have been named on there.

00:22:29.260 And I thought last time when you and I spoke on the air, you referenced them referencing you in some way.

00:22:34.400 But oh, yeah, no, their hatred, their hatred, their hatred.

00:22:37.560 No, I mean, it's not a big deal.

00:22:38.700 I know.

00:22:39.640 Anyway, there's a clip going around recently of you asking Al Sharpton on MSNBC.

00:22:46.200 People are using this clip to claim that you at least used to be a Democrat.

00:22:51.420 Were you?

00:22:52.580 Did you switch?

00:22:53.860 What made you switch?

00:22:54.960 Yeah, so I will tell you, I'm not I did not come out of the birth canal spouting Republican talking points.

00:23:00.800 That much is for sure.

00:23:01.960 So that clip from 2003, when I was 18 years old in my freshman year of college, I wasn't a Republican.

00:23:08.400 That's for sure.

00:23:09.500 Now, MSNBC hosted all the Democratic primary candidates.

00:23:12.860 I said, you know what, I'm going to go check it out.

00:23:14.300 I asked him a question and I said, hey, why should I vote for you in the primary if, you know, you're the least experienced, which is a funny question and ironic on many levels.

00:23:24.960 It's given that I'm an outsider running now.

00:23:26.900 But the truth is, I didn't vote Democrat.

00:23:28.840 I voted Libertarian that year.

00:23:30.580 You don't know why I didn't love George Bush.

00:23:32.140 I was dead set against many of the George Bush policies.

00:23:34.840 I was against the war in Iraq at that time, as I am today.

00:23:38.960 I went on to be against the 2008 bailout.

00:23:41.600 So I didn't vote for John McCain or Barack Obama.

00:23:44.220 I was disillusioned, Glenn, from both parties.

00:23:47.580 And so in that election in 2004, I voted for the Libertarian candidate because I couldn't stand John Kerry or George Bush.

00:23:52.960 I came to my views and I was disillusioned from politics for most of my 20s.

00:23:58.720 Obama, McCain, Obama, Romney, even.

00:24:01.620 I didn't find these figures inspiring.

00:24:03.980 But I came to my views through my experiences, Glenn.

00:24:07.980 When I was a biotech CEO, when I had to make or was supposedly forced, and I refused to do it, to make a statement on behalf of Black Lives Matter while I'm developing medicines that are saving people's lives and I refused to do it.

00:24:20.900 And that puts me in a difficult position in my industry as a leader.

00:24:24.800 Those are the kinds of experiences that shaped my vehemence in crusading first, not even in politics, but against this trend of woke capitalism and stakeholder capitalism and ESG.

00:24:37.420 They separate business from politics.

00:24:39.220 That's where I began, not in partisan politics.

00:24:42.580 And even now, I'm not a party man, Glenn.

00:24:44.840 I'm using the Republican Party as a vehicle to advance a positive, nationalistic, pro-American vision for this country.

00:24:52.760 And so, you know, if people want somebody who was born in Republican jerseys and talks in Republican talking points, I'm not their guy and I wasn't at the age of 18 either.

00:25:01.420 I'm somebody who thinks independently.

00:25:03.260 I'm a patriot who cares about this country and speaks the truth.

00:25:05.900 And you know what, if I'm 18 years old and I'm exploring in college, yes, if there's a forum where somebody who disagrees with me, Al Sharpton, shows up, I'm going to go up, show up, ask questions.

00:25:15.860 And yes, I did vote libertarian that year, guilty as charged.

00:25:18.700 That's just part of who I am and people should know it.

00:25:21.160 I need to know because I respect your time and I did this with Donald Trump and I had to leave questions on the table.

00:25:26.880 But we'll have you back.

00:25:29.320 Do I have two more minutes with you or four more minutes?

00:25:32.440 I actually reserved 20 minutes.

00:25:34.820 Okay, okay.

00:25:35.900 All right.

00:25:36.820 So let me go back to this.

00:25:38.700 In 2016, you not only were against Donald Trump, but you actually made donations to somebody who is viriently anti-Trump, a friend.

00:25:49.620 Let me just correct you there on 2016.

00:25:51.580 I was not anti-Trump.

00:25:52.560 I just didn't vote in 2016 because I was deeply jaded and skeptical of all politicians.

00:26:00.340 As I told you heading into then, I judged based on results.

00:26:03.640 And he delivered for this country and I voted with him with pride in 2020.

00:26:07.420 So you gave $2,700 to act blue.

00:26:11.300 Yeah, I'll tell you what that was.

00:26:12.000 I had no idea who this individual was.

00:26:15.420 She's in the biotech industry.

00:26:17.540 And, you know, I'm a biotech CEO, right?

00:26:19.140 And I'm invited by the biotech industry association's head of a friend of a friend saying, there's this doctor who's running for Congress.

00:26:25.980 Would you come?

00:26:26.540 They dragged me out to a fundraiser.

00:26:27.920 I showed up state as long as minimal time as I could, but that was the entry ticket to go in.

00:26:32.840 I frankly regret doing it because it's raised so many questions afterwards.

00:26:37.300 I wasn't plotting to be a politician back then.

00:26:39.620 But the fact of the matter is, if you're a CEO, you get dragged around a lot of fundraisers in New York City.

00:26:44.120 That was the one I got dragged into.

00:26:45.820 And the ticket price is one that I wrote to get in.

00:26:48.400 So that's the long and the short of it.

00:26:50.080 I think I couldn't even tell you the name of the person who it was.

00:26:53.140 OK. In the debate, you said that Trump was, quote, the greatest president of your lifetime.

00:27:01.100 I said the 21st century is what I said.

00:27:02.680 OK. All right. 21st century. That's fine.

00:27:04.320 I had to think about it for a lifetime because Reagan was also during my lifetime.

00:27:06.860 OK. Greatest president in the 21st century.

00:27:10.280 If he's so great, why bother running against him?

00:27:15.460 Well, look, this is a good question, Glenn.

00:27:17.420 And I believe I can take the America First agenda further because I've got fresh legs,

00:27:24.020 because I hope to God that my best days are still yet ahead of me.

00:27:28.080 I can see a country whose best days are still yet ahead of itself.

00:27:31.840 And look at the way we're running this campaign, Glenn.

00:27:34.140 This can't be a 50.1 election.

00:27:36.780 I am the only candidate in this race who can win in a landslide.

00:27:41.080 We've gone to the south side of Chicago.

00:27:42.540 We've gone to Kensington in the middle of the inner city of Philadelphia.

00:27:45.700 We're bringing young people, Glenn, along in droves. 0.97

00:27:49.980 I have over 100,000 small dollar donors in this campaign.

00:27:53.720 Forty percent of them, more than that, are first time ever donors to the GOP.

00:27:59.180 Many of them are young.

00:28:00.840 And so for so many reasons, this cannot be a razor thin margin.

00:28:04.760 Unlike many people, I actually do believe Donald Trump can defeat Joe Biden,

00:28:08.920 but I think it'll be razor thin and tight.

00:28:10.840 And I think it is dangerous for this country if we get to a place where CNN and MSNBC are trotting out the winner the Monday after the election.

00:28:18.960 This can't be one of those.

00:28:20.160 This has to be a Reagan 1980-style moral mandate.

00:28:24.660 I think I'm the only person who can deliver that by bringing young people along,

00:28:29.120 leaving no state, no city left behind, no American left behind.

00:28:33.240 A multi-ethnic, working-class coalition is what we're building.

00:28:36.900 And I will take Trump as my most important advisor and mentor in that first year in the White House.

00:28:42.340 I'm convinced of that.

00:28:43.680 And I think that's the relationship I'd like to have with him as we lead this country.

00:28:46.680 So Vivek, I'm going to ask that we have you back at some point because I have more questions.

00:28:52.900 And I want to make sure that you have a fair hearing and that the tough questions are asked of you.

00:28:58.840 So here's one I want to be very delicate on, and this is my question.

00:29:04.680 Sure.

00:29:05.280 You know, I was in Iowa, and I saw people, you know, react to you.

00:29:10.400 And they reacted really well.

00:29:12.380 What you may not have seen was afterwards I asked some of the leaders, and I asked people that watched,

00:29:18.240 and they said this, I love him, but he doesn't have a chance because he's not Christian.

00:29:23.120 And I don't think people are ready for a Hindu president. 1.00

00:29:29.760 You are going to have pushback, if you don't already, from Christian groups that may not, or they'll sit out.

00:29:37.340 You can't lose the Christian vote.

00:29:39.500 You say you believe in the same one God, but that's not Hindu. 0.89

00:29:46.460 So, Glenn, what I've said is we share the same value set in common.

00:29:50.800 My faith is there is one true God, and yes, that is Hindu.

00:29:53.940 There's many branches of Hinduism, Catholicism to evangelical Christians in the Christian tradition.

00:29:59.820 There are many branches of Hinduism.

00:30:01.700 The one I've been raised in, and it is a widespread, mainstream view, is one true God.

00:30:07.720 That's my worldview.

00:30:09.160 But more importantly, this is a Judeo-Christian nation founded in Judeo-Christian principles.

00:30:14.260 It's the fact of history.

00:30:15.800 I think we need a commander-in-chief who shares those values in common.

00:30:18.640 And as somebody who has been educated in Christian high school, has, if I may say it, Glenn, myself, read the Bible more closely than most of my Christian friends,

00:30:28.400 I can say with certitude that we share the same value set in common of sacrifice, of duty, of a belief that God put each of us here for a reason,

00:30:40.240 that we're here for a purpose, that there's more to life than just the aimless passage of time.

00:30:45.740 Think about the common thread from the Old Testament to the New.

00:30:49.360 God told Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac.

00:30:51.840 He didn't make him follow through with it.

00:30:53.960 In the New Testament, God sacrificed his own son.

00:30:56.940 That value of sacrifice, that is woven into the fabric of this country.

00:31:02.160 It is woven into my own upbringing and value set, the same values we raise our two sons in.

00:31:08.020 And I think, Glenn, especially because I'm a little bit different, I'm a little younger.

00:31:11.820 I'm the youngest candidate to run. I'm of a different generation. Yes, I'm of a different faith, nominally.

00:31:18.260 I think I'm in a better position to defend religious liberty, to actually make concepts like faith and patriotism and hard work and family cool, again, actually, for the next generation of Americans.

00:31:31.500 I take that responsibility seriously.

00:31:34.040 So, no, I'm not qualified to run for pastor. I can't. That wouldn't make any sense.

00:31:39.820 But when I'm running for commander-in-chief, the question is, do we share the same value set that this nation was founded on?

00:31:46.620 In my case, the answer is yes. We live our life accordingly.

00:31:50.000 And the standard I want everyone, including every Christian in this country, to hold me to is, do I want my two sons to grow up and be like him, whoever that is in the White House?

00:32:01.160 I think that's a standard we should apply.

00:32:03.080 If we're being really honest, it's been a long time, at least I'll speak for myself, where we had a president where I could, without holding my nose, tell my kids the same two things.

00:32:11.320 And I think a lot of Christians across the country would say the same thing.

00:32:14.640 That's the standard that I'll ask to be held to.

00:32:16.840 Vivek Ramaswamy, I'd love to have you back. I've got some questions on China and everything else, but thank you so much for answering these questions.

00:32:23.660 You bet.

00:32:25.120 Vivek Ramaswamy, Vivek like cake. Can people please get it right?

00:32:34.620 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:32:37.440 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:32:40.520 Well, CNN has a new CEO.

00:32:43.580 He used to be with the BBC and the good news is he was the guy that was in charge of the BBC that nixed the investigation segment about the pedophile Jimmy Saville, who was a big, big, big, big, big star in England.

00:33:05.360 He was like a for a long time.

00:33:07.420 He was like the number one disc jockey on BBC and became huge charity guy and was, you know, helping them build children's hospitals.

00:33:18.560 And the BBC finds out he's molesting the children in the children's hospitals.

00:33:25.620 And they nixed the profile.

00:33:28.580 They, they, the investigative report, they said, no, we're not reporting on that.

00:33:32.720 The guy who made that decision is now running CNN.

00:33:37.260 Oh, I did not realize that.

00:33:39.180 Wow.

00:33:39.620 I mean, cause his, he goes back to the times.

00:33:42.900 He was at the New York times for a while.

00:33:43.820 I was at the BBC.

00:33:44.620 Yeah.

00:33:44.840 Um, you know, he's, I was talking to Steve Krakauer yesterday who covers the media, you know, wrote a book about it.

00:33:51.860 Um, and he was saying the guy's known as sort of like more of a businessman, like he's not known as a guy who's making major editorial decisions.

00:33:58.500 We'll see how, if that holds or not.

00:34:00.400 But if he's making decisions like that, it feels like that's the type of thing you do once and you never get another job, let alone the leadership job.

00:34:07.960 Like, yeah, they're like, I'm sorry, you can't work at Nathan's hot dogs.

00:34:10.600 That's not, I can't, I'm sorry.

00:34:12.660 Your judgment is way too poor.

00:34:14.840 We would, we would be using our product and we'd always be thinking about you and Jimmy Seville and we just don't want anything to do with it.

00:34:22.440 Um, the, uh, the Federalist has been, uh, punished again.

00:34:29.320 Uh, they will not address, um, anything, anything.

00:34:34.780 Uh, apparently Instagram has slapped a false label on a report that,

00:34:42.420 that was exposing the 14 American cities that are part of C40.

00:34:47.800 And that is the, you know, the, the group of mayors that have said, you know, one of our, I'm going to get this exactly right.

00:34:54.640 Uh, uh, uh, one of our, uh, one of our big plans or our aggressive goals, aggressive goals that we've signed on to is that you have zero meat eaten in your city.

00:35:09.480 Zero meat.

00:35:11.320 This has, this is the, in their words, a desired goal.

00:35:18.480 And, uh, they keep getting fact checked on this as that's not meaning that they want to get rid of meat.

00:35:25.860 What are you desired desired goal, desired goal?

00:35:32.180 I mean, it's like my desired goal is to be number one in the ratings.

00:35:37.280 Well, no, that's not what he wants.

00:35:39.740 He doesn't want to do.

00:35:41.320 What are you talking about?

00:35:42.640 He doesn't want to be number one.

00:35:43.120 No, of course not.

00:35:43.800 No.

00:35:44.120 He wants to be last.

00:35:45.900 Well, what?

00:35:47.400 Because I think their, their line was, it wasn't a formal policy proposal.

00:35:52.060 Yes.

00:35:52.480 Right.

00:35:52.640 Like it was just a goal that they wanted. 0.99

00:35:54.200 And they didn't necessarily identify exactly how they would get there, et cetera, which is a really stupid distinction. 0.99

00:36:01.220 Yeah. 0.96

00:36:01.520 It's a distinction without a difference.

00:36:03.080 It's an ambitious target.

00:36:04.600 Yeah.

00:36:04.780 An ambitious target means your goal.

00:36:07.960 It means a desired goal.

00:36:09.400 And if you miss the target, you're at least in the area.

00:36:12.640 You're going in that direction.

00:36:13.980 Right.

00:36:14.660 Right.

00:36:14.780 I mean, it's just crazy.

00:36:17.060 I think we use this analogy at the time, but it's like, if you tell your wife, like, look, I have an ambitious target to hook up with our babysitter.

00:36:23.300 I don't have a formal policy.

00:36:25.220 I didn't ask her out on a date.

00:36:26.980 Right.

00:36:27.340 You know, she just, look, when she comes over, you know, I, you know, it's my target.

00:36:31.320 Yes.

00:36:31.580 It's an ambitious target.

00:36:32.760 She, she might not even go along with it.

00:36:34.180 So it might not happen.

00:36:35.000 Right.

00:36:35.360 But you know, that's generally speaking what I want to do.

00:36:37.480 And I want you to know, I'm working towards that.

00:36:39.640 I mean, I'm putting in place different restrictions and everything else for you, for her to be here when you're not.

00:36:45.320 But, um, right.

00:36:46.540 Like when, when, for example, when she's not even watching the kids, I just have her come over.

00:36:49.660 But how dare you.

00:36:51.140 But that's not a formal policy.

00:36:53.080 My gosh. 0.97

00:36:53.820 It's just like so ridiculous. 0.99

00:36:55.060 If you're the woman in this situation, you might have questions about such behavior. 0.98

00:37:00.420 Yeah.

00:37:00.600 So Mark, we should, uh, Marcy Parker, uh, Darwin, uh, has announced that peanut, her chicken has just turned 21, which makes peanut the chicken in Michigan, the oldest chicken in the world that we know of, we know of 21.

00:37:21.400 Cause a lot of, a lot of them don't get carded.

00:37:23.740 Uh, I know, I know, but yeah, he can, but peanut can drink, can drink, can drink.

00:37:29.820 So that's good.

00:37:30.920 You got to give peanut a beer, don't you?

00:37:32.620 I would.

00:37:33.280 On his 21st birthday.

00:37:34.580 I would.

00:37:35.440 You got to do it.

00:37:36.960 Oh man.

00:37:37.420 PETA is going to be all over you for just even suggesting that as a, what you claim to be a joke.

00:37:42.860 It'll give me a vegan beer.

00:37:44.220 Yeah.

00:37:46.080 It's okay.

00:37:48.040 Yeah.

00:37:48.840 So there you go.

00:37:50.180 So 21 year old chicken in Michigan, the happy birthday to peanut.

00:37:54.480 Happy birthday.

00:37:55.960 Um, here's another story.

00:37:57.420 California woman.

00:37:58.520 Now I want you to listen to this and tell me what sticks out to you.

00:38:02.520 Okay.

00:38:03.200 California woman known for her involvement in a failed multimillion dollar horse show that 0.99

00:38:08.260 made headlines a decade ago has been charged with trying to hire somebody to kill her husband.

00:38:15.040 Hmm.

00:38:15.980 Okay.

00:38:16.540 I have questions already.

00:38:17.960 Okay.

00:38:18.160 What are the questions?

00:38:19.200 What failed multimillion dollar horse show?

00:38:22.680 Are you speaking of?

00:38:23.720 Let me give you the headline.

00:38:24.480 The headline is woman behind the infamous.

00:38:28.720 Okay.

00:38:29.200 Which implies that we should know about.

00:38:30.800 Right.

00:38:31.080 Right.

00:38:31.400 Okay.

00:38:32.340 Woman behind the infamous acrobatic horse show. 1.00

00:38:37.820 Oh, no, no.

00:38:39.640 Acro.

00:38:40.440 Woman behind the infamous acrobatic horse show fiasco. 1.00

00:38:46.080 Oh my gosh.

00:38:47.400 Arrested.

00:38:47.880 This sounds like, I want to see like a fire festival documentary on this now.

00:38:52.300 What is this?

00:38:53.080 Right.

00:38:53.860 Right.

00:38:54.120 This sounds incredible.

00:38:55.000 Right.

00:38:55.240 It does.

00:38:55.900 Doesn't it?

00:38:57.640 Acrobatic horse show fiasco.

00:38:59.680 You have to go.

00:39:00.340 That's a good band name.

00:39:01.260 You have to.

00:39:03.840 Rolls right off your tongue.

00:39:05.340 The acrobatic horse show fiasco.

00:39:08.980 I would totally see that in live.

00:39:10.920 I'd see that.

00:39:11.160 I'd see that movie.

00:39:12.060 Yeah.

00:39:12.140 Um, okay, so this is how it's brought up like three quarters of the way through after

00:39:18.560 that headline.

00:39:19.380 Right.

00:39:19.800 Three quarters of the way through married in 2011 after talking about her trying to kill

00:39:24.360 her husband.

00:39:25.100 Right.

00:39:25.520 Married in 2011.

00:39:26.720 The Remleys made headlines a year later after they organized an elaborate multimillion dollar

00:39:32.780 45 show equestrian acrobatics show.

00:39:40.640 What?

00:39:41.240 What happened?

00:39:41.800 Like the horses were doing flips.

00:39:44.340 The extravaganza was canceled after just a few performances, however, and its crew and

00:39:50.660 performers were left empty handed.

00:39:53.020 And then it goes back into their attempted divorce and she couldn't divorce him. 0.94

00:39:58.020 So she was going to kill. 0.98

00:39:58.840 I want to know what acrobatics were they trying to get the horses to do? 0.72

00:40:06.460 Was it a tightrope act?

00:40:08.880 Was it like Cirque du Soleil, but it was with horses?

00:40:14.440 What happened?

00:40:15.700 Did a horse, a Clydesdale, wrap himself in a giant ribbon and spin?

00:40:20.980 I don't know.

00:40:22.520 What's the name?

00:40:23.260 What's the lady's name again? 0.97

00:40:24.440 Wait, the performance was called...

00:40:26.240 I'm dying to watch this now.

00:40:27.260 Valatar.

00:40:27.860 V-A-L-I-T-A-R. 1.00

00:40:30.000 Right?

00:40:30.720 I could care less about the husband.

00:40:32.380 Right.

00:40:32.820 She goes to jail.

00:40:33.520 I want to know about the acrobatic horse show.

00:40:37.960 Fiasco.

00:40:38.680 Wow.

00:40:39.040 So there is an article from the San Diego Union Tribune.

00:40:42.200 Okay.

00:40:42.500 Okay.

00:40:43.200 Valatar's epic collapse.

00:40:44.860 Okay.

00:40:45.380 All right.

00:40:45.860 So tell us.

00:40:46.880 What were they doing?

00:40:48.540 How did we miss this?

00:40:50.420 America.

00:40:51.200 We don't have our priorities right.

00:40:53.080 We've been going on and on and on.

00:40:54.660 Ah, Biden did this.

00:40:55.860 Biden did this.

00:40:56.800 An acrobatic horse show?

00:40:59.840 That's an ambitious target.

00:41:01.320 Yes.

00:41:02.440 They're not planning on doing it, but it's an ambitious target.

00:41:05.360 It's an ambitious target.

00:41:06.260 Valatar, set in a fantasy kingdom of sleek stallions and acrobatic equestrians, was touted

00:41:11.740 as a matchless spectacle.

00:41:14.060 Even before the November 16th world premiere, this is 2013, by the way, under a massive crimson

00:41:19.240 tent at the Del Mar fairgrounds, the Rancho Santa Fe producers were planning a 10-month

00:41:24.380 five-city U.S. tour.

00:41:26.280 Mark and Tatiana Remley predicted a hit.

00:41:28.760 But it's like Cirque du Soleil with horses.

00:41:31.720 Okay.

00:41:32.300 I got it.

00:41:33.200 All right.

00:41:34.380 Wait.

00:41:34.880 This can't be real.

00:41:35.340 I got to see this.

00:41:38.020 This is our nation's top priority needs to be bringing this back.

00:41:41.520 I don't know what it is, but I got to see it.

00:41:43.000 I mean, that's like, you know, by the end of the decade, we'll put a man on the moon

00:41:47.320 and return.

00:41:47.920 I want an acrobatic.

00:41:49.660 That's a goal for America.

00:41:51.840 I can't believe this.

00:41:53.040 Cirque du Soleil with horses.

00:41:54.640 How do they hang on to things?

00:41:56.120 They don't have hands.

00:41:57.260 This is...

00:41:58.260 I mean, it's got to be under the underarm, right?

00:42:03.060 Like, you got to kind of like...

00:42:03.960 I don't know.

00:42:03.980 Oh.

00:42:04.660 Well, you imagine they're on the blocks and then they jump down on the trampoline and

00:42:09.340 then they kind of gallop back up to the block.

00:42:11.180 This would be incredible.

00:42:12.020 And then they jump down and they gallop back up on the block.

00:42:14.260 Free this woman so she could start the show again. 1.00

00:42:16.220 I mean, maybe your husband.

00:42:18.380 Don't let the husband get killed until we get the plans.

00:42:22.120 Oh, this is...

00:42:22.660 This is not...

00:42:23.600 The framing of this article I have questions with.

00:42:26.620 It says, what type of show was it?

00:42:28.660 A disaster.

00:42:30.980 What's it?

00:42:31.580 Valatar only had a five-day run.

00:42:33.920 The Remleys putting it down after its November 20th performance.

00:42:43.520 God, journalism used to be fun.

00:42:45.360 Oh, my gosh.

00:42:46.940 Because it didn't matter.

00:42:48.480 Look it up on...

00:42:49.760 Wait.

00:42:50.260 Is there more?

00:42:50.960 Insiders now say the real spectacle unfolded offstage and will soon move center stage as

00:42:54.840 lawsuits filed against the couple raised questions about the ill-fated show.

00:42:58.300 The Remleys did not respond, but legal documents and people associated with Valatar describe

00:43:02.280 a couple with lofty ambitions but limited abilities.

00:43:07.520 You know what?

00:43:08.400 I have no sympathy.

00:43:09.860 You're invested.

00:43:10.940 You lost your money in a Cirque du Soleil with horses.

00:43:16.900 I don't have sympathy.

00:43:18.420 You're like, the horses are doing acrobatic tricks?

00:43:22.500 I can't believe it actually went off.

00:43:25.180 Like, it had five performances.

00:43:28.400 You got to look it up.

00:43:29.180 See if you can find it on YouTube.

00:43:31.940 Now, listen to this.

00:43:32.580 The wife is experiencing extreme financial strain.

00:43:36.940 She's unable to maintain her realistic monthly expenses of just $12,000 a month, much less

00:43:45.240 than what she's accustomed to at $50,000 a month.

00:43:49.040 She has no income, but she has this great idea.

00:43:52.420 In addition to the monthly stipend of $12,000 a month, Ms. Remleys demands access to one 0.90

00:43:59.460 of their homes, two of their trucks, an ATV, and their pet parrot.

00:44:09.700 She denies she tried to have her husband killed.

00:44:14.240 Na, na, na, na

The Glenn Beck Program - September 01, 2023

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