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00:00:13.720 richer than you think hey on today's podcast how far left will the far left go i mean they've

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00:02:51.620 you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program all right hello stew how are you wonderful

00:03:06.400 everything is awesome peachy great everything is cool when you're part of the team oh my gosh and

00:03:12.960 are we part of the team well um yesterday uh things went a little nuts uh in uh washington um there

00:03:23.340 were some unhinged leftists now that's a little redundant um but some unhinged leftists uh

00:03:31.980 were at the rfk hearing where he's he's talking to the house appropriations committee uh and some

00:03:41.320 crazy protester erupted uh you know in just what they do and if you're watching the blaze i want

00:03:49.020 you to watch this or listen to it if you're on radio here we go

00:03:51.640 the witness will suspend the committee will come to order capital police are asked to remove the

00:04:08.080 individuals from hearing you members of the audience are reminded disruptions will not be

00:04:15.720 tolerated

00:04:16.380 i guess they were saying rfk lies and people die i i don't maybe it was about hamas maybe it was about

00:04:26.100 too many umbrellas i i don't it was it was too many umbrellas too many umbrellas yep far too many

00:04:31.500 umbrellas in this country for sun and for rain i mean what is it it's everything

00:04:36.140 i'm with them frankly too many uh so we have so we have jiff or rfk now did you did you see if

00:04:48.620 you're watching it did you see his reaction watch again just the very beginning of it

00:04:54.620 stop he looks terrified he looks like he's about to get shot yeah but he's as a candidate

00:05:02.440 Kennedy yeah okay you don't do that to a Kennedy now here's what's crazy these are radical leftists

00:05:10.200 stew when did people stop considering his radical leftist lifetime record

00:05:19.620 i don't know i'm as perplexed as anybody on this one yeah uh he has been a radical leftist for a

00:05:28.340 very long time i mean i would think that there's probably examples of other hearings back in the

00:05:34.380 day where people were doing that type of protest on his behalf yeah right not maybe not that he asked

00:05:39.420 for it but like thinking that they're aligned with him certainly on climate issues and now all of a

00:05:44.440 sudden uh i guess you get involved with donald trump and and everybody turns yeah uh so let me go

00:05:51.000 back to the testimony cut one please so do you disagree with the cuts that are being proposed for

00:05:57.300 medicaid right now oh the cuts to you know this is a i don't know if you understand this or whether

00:06:04.080 you're just mouthing you know the democratic talking boys the cuts to medicaid are for fraud

00:06:11.640 waste and abuse and i'll tell you what that means it means that the because of doge we were able to

00:06:17.640 determine and it's about eight million people who would be affected because of doge we were able to

00:06:23.840 determine that there are a million people who are claiming medicaid from multiple states that's

00:06:28.920 illegal it's theft you're not allowed to do that there are another million people who are collecting

00:06:34.800 both under obamacare and secretary that has nothing to do with the budget these are the only cuts

00:06:40.900 that are being made these are the only cuts that are being made to medicaid that's not true yes it is

00:06:45.980 another million illegal aliens we announced a law yesterday yesterday rule yesterday we're not going

00:06:52.960 to pay illegal aliens anymore and guess what gavin newson did this morning he said we're going to

00:06:57.880 take all the illegal aliens off the california medicaid rolls because the feds aren't paying for

00:07:03.080 them anymore so the compassion and secretary let me let me focus you it's incredible how no one is

00:07:11.520 actually listening to facts anymore i mean it's one thing when you're not listening to facts you know

00:07:19.340 from donald trump or joe biden okay we can argue about facts all day and we you know whatever

00:07:26.600 this is rfk arguing with democrats about medicaid fraud abuse and he's saying we're just taking people off

00:07:41.840 that are illegally using medicaid who who is against this honestly again who is against this

00:07:52.460 now gavin newsom is putting everybody on california uh aid excuse me california how are you going to

00:08:03.280 afford that every taxpayer left right center every taxpayer in california should be raising holy hell

00:08:12.480 will they no no they won't they won't how are you going to pay for that your your state is going to

00:08:20.680 collapse economically now you know why the democrats are not worried about that is because that's part

00:08:27.720 of the plan that is cloward and piven collapse and overwhelm and collapse the system and they they've

00:08:37.360 already done it they did it in new york city back in the 70s and new york city collapsed now they're doing

00:08:43.480 it to states and it's going to happen the same way and i'll be damned if i am going to send my taxpayer

00:08:52.280 dollars to california because you didn't have the balls or the brains to stand up not doing it i'm not

00:09:01.060 doing it hey dummy only one of us is going to be right in the end about your financial collapse

00:09:08.380 and everybody who can put two plus two equals four down on a table not seven and even if you show me

00:09:17.860 your work but four this is simple math you are going to collapse why am i going to pay for it you come to

00:09:27.100 the united states of america and you ask us to bail bail you out and anybody in congress that is from my

00:09:34.240 state i will i will make it my mission to put you out on the street i will make it my mission if you

00:09:44.240 vote to bail california out oh but we have to have california do we do we do we really do we honestly

00:09:53.540 that i'm not i didn't sign up for a suicide pack i moved to texas for a reason uh i didn't i didn't i

00:10:01.800 didn't want to be part of the suicide well no they're committing suicide so we all have to

00:10:07.600 what kind of cult are you in my gosh and and look what the democrats are doing look at what the left

00:10:19.280 is doing the left is becoming so incredibly radical you had in newark you had what was her uh what was

00:10:29.760 her name the congresswoman uh i wrote it down congresswoman shoot something uh la monica macgyver

00:10:38.280 this week on macgyver we assault ice agents in newark new jersey so macgyver went out congresswoman

00:10:48.600 goes out and it's pretty clear assaults these officers and tries to storm in as part of oversight that

00:10:57.580 wasn't oversight that wasn't oversight and you know what it really was a setup because i want you

00:11:04.200 to play the aoc comment from a couple of days ago where she commented on this because holman says

00:11:10.860 no fact plague holman first no one's above the law listen to this did you want the congresswoman who

00:11:18.060 was caught on camera assaulting ice agents to be arrested for that if you assault an officer

00:11:23.320 absolutely no one's above the law he's been the one who put their lives online every day

00:11:28.260 we should be supporting them not assaulting them especially in a facility that they're guarding

00:11:34.140 some of the worst of the worst you can't lose control of the facility and when you when you cause

00:11:39.100 what they caused up there it causes the safety and security of the facility to fall and that's not

00:11:45.800 okay so the government you know now the government that's sane at least is saying look i don't care

00:12:05.660 who you are left right pink purple black white doesn't matter you assault a police officer you're

00:12:12.120 going to jail what that i mean that's just something i've always grown up with what about

00:12:17.200 january 6th beck hey january 6th you're like those people go to jail yeah i'm gonna have another

00:12:25.140 conversation with you about the rule of law and due process but that's for a different uh time uh

00:12:32.720 now what are they doing now aoc comes out with this warning and now what dhs

00:12:41.300 is trying to say again they're using public intimidation because they know that they cannot

00:12:46.400 come for us all they know that they are not that they cannot come for us all and recently what they

00:12:51.240 said is that dhs is allegedly looking into arresting members of congress who are showing up for their

00:13:00.920 legal and constitutional obligation to conduct oversight if anyone's breaking the law in this

00:13:07.400 situation it's not members of congress it's the department of homeland security it's people like

00:13:13.180 tom homan and secretary christy known you lay a finger on someone on representative bonnie watson

00:13:20.480 coleman on representative or any of the red representatives that were there you lay a finger

00:13:26.920 on them we are going to have a problem because the people who are breaking the law are the people who

00:13:32.760 are not abiding by it and it is enshrined in law that members of congress who show up to ice and cbp

00:13:41.660 facilities are required to be granted access legally required to be granted access and they legally cannot

00:13:51.300 be inhibited from accessing these facilities to conduct their constitutional obligation to to

00:13:59.780 investigate and conduct oversight so if christy noem wants to break the law that's on her okay how can

00:14:07.660 anybody take this person seriously i know i know she was they just did a poll uh who's the face of the

00:14:12.400 democratic party her she was number one i know this this complete moron bartender from five years ago

00:14:19.960 is the face of the party now yeah what but which is i mean perfectly just it's reasonable it should be if

00:14:28.520 you've been watching the democratic party it's reasonable that she would be the leader now

00:14:33.720 they're socialist they're stupid they're nothing but activist they're nothing but they're nothing but

00:14:41.240 chosen uh uh puppets for i don't know who's pulling all the strings of the democratic party but that's

00:14:48.280 what she is she's just a little puppet she's just a little chosen puppet hey you know what bartender

00:14:53.840 we can make you a star and we have that all backed up we did a show on her early on how she was selected

00:15:01.780 how she was elected i mean she was selected she's a little puppet so you know it makes total sense

00:15:08.480 that she is the face of the democratic party but what's happening here what's happening dhs

00:15:17.500 the hamas the the riots now of everybody uh standing up and saying uh you know you can't you can't uh

00:15:30.040 export illegal aliens you can't send them back home uh the riots that are just itching to start

00:15:39.000 now we have uh what's his name the failed vice presidential candidate little short uh elmer

00:15:47.180 fud hunter guy uh oh gosh what was his name uh the guy um in uh wolf no tom no uh what was

00:15:57.440 anyway you know him oh tim waltz tim waltz oh you sure you sure he was the one who ran

00:16:02.520 all right it's i think so okay all right i'm not sure anymore but uh he's now come out and said

00:16:10.100 you know the government's gonna release uh um derek chauvin no there's no there's no evidence of

00:16:18.520 that there's none donald trump has said no we're not doing that but what are they doing they're

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00:17:43.340 listening to the best of the glenn beck program we welcome to the program uh the vice president of

00:17:49.360 the united states and somebody who i think has a presidency uh in his future jd vance welcome to the

00:17:56.840 program mr vice president glenn how we doing i'm great i'm great what a what an amazing few days the

00:18:04.180 president has had first with all of the uh the foreign wins before he left uh with the wars you

00:18:11.760 know and and everything that uh the state department and and marco rubio is doing uh and and now this

00:18:18.160 speech i think this riad speech is historic on so many levels how would you describe what's going on in

00:18:26.760 the middle east this week yeah so i agree with you uh glenn about that particular speech i mean when

00:18:32.540 i listened to it and i obviously knew a little bit about what the president was going to say

00:18:36.640 uh it changed a little bit i would say over the last couple of days but the core message is very

00:18:41.920 simple that america wants not to remake the world in america's image we don't want to force our allies

00:18:48.960 to adopt our exact form of government we actually want to be in the business of shared interest

00:18:54.320 and shared economic cooperation and so long as you're not trying to kill anybody and so long as

00:18:59.520 you're interested in building wealth for your citizens and working with america then america's

00:19:03.660 open for business and i think that's a very important signal to send to the world you know the

00:19:08.100 obama administration economist larry summers had a very smart point a few years ago he said you know

00:19:13.860 when the chinese show up in the developing world they show up with a bag of money when americans show up in

00:19:19.560 the developing world they show up with a lecture and if you're you know given a choice between a lecture

00:19:24.480 and a bag of money you're going to choose the bag of money every step of the way i think what the

00:19:28.620 president is saying is that era of american preachiness and america telling other countries

00:19:33.900 how to live their lives that era is over and i think it's a very important point for the middle

00:19:38.660 east it's a very important point for the whole globe and you know in some ways only president

00:19:42.580 trump could have made that argument at this point in time are you are we stopping with the bags of

00:19:47.560 money too i think we're stopping with both but we we are really want looking at economic

00:19:54.580 cooperation you know in africa for example glenn you have american diplomats sent by the

00:20:00.300 biden administration who are telling very conservative christian african countries that

00:20:05.320 they need to fly the lgbtq flag right but they're not engaging in any economic arrangement where

00:20:11.660 you know the africans have critical minerals that we need they have other industries that we could

00:20:16.660 be participating in we could be partnering on and i think that's that's the bags of money point it's

00:20:21.780 not that we're going to give them money but that we could have some shared economic relations with

00:20:26.160 a conservative african country where we wouldn't want to tell them how to live their lives uh we

00:20:31.300 would actually just want to enter into a partnership with them and that's again a big big change it's a

00:20:36.120 big shift but it's an important shift from a very dumb american foreign policy to a very smart one

00:20:42.320 that i think is going to benefit this country for the next generation there was this old tv show

00:20:46.300 it was a game show when i was a kid called the twenty thousand dollar pyramid and they would allow

00:20:50.820 you to say pass and you could skip the subject of the question and i give you that we're playing the

00:20:57.100 twenty thousand dollar pyramid here uh is you know i look at the reaction of your speech in uh europe

00:21:04.280 then i see the moves that they're making i see the new prime minister of canada who was

00:21:10.080 the architect of the glasgow financial accords um and i i'm not sure that we're on the same page

00:21:17.400 anymore um it is it we can be friends with everybody but i'm not sure we're walking down

00:21:26.720 the same path anymore with those countries well it worries me glenn because look there are certainly

00:21:33.840 some economic uh benefits and friendships that we can have with a lot of our you know sort of western

00:21:39.440 european and obviously our canadian friends uh but but in western europe in particular you know

00:21:45.440 my view on this glenn is our relationship with western europe is only always going to be unique

00:21:50.580 you know america of course started as an english colony uh we're always going to have a special

00:21:56.120 relationship with the united kingdom but what that means fundamentally is that if we see certain

00:22:00.640 western european countries in germany for example where we have 38 000 troops if we see germans doing

00:22:07.660 something that is incredibly offensive to america's values i think americans are going to recoil a

00:22:13.420 little bit at that and you know i went to germany very recently very briefly glenn just to you know

00:22:18.400 visit the troops and say hello and i was hearing from germans even during that very brief visit on the

00:22:24.260 ground things that you know they were worried about free speech policies in their own country well if

00:22:29.300 we've got 38 000 troops there and we're living amongst the germans we're literally defending their

00:22:34.260 country uh i i think you can expect americans to at least express some negative opinions about some

00:22:41.700 of the free speech policies they're seeing in europe and glenn you know this as well as anybody

00:22:45.560 things that start in europe sometimes come over to america in the same way that things that start in

00:22:50.800 america sometimes make their way to europe uh the kind of social media censorship that we've seen

00:22:56.580 in western europe it will in some ways already has made its way to the united states that was the story

00:23:02.580 of the biden administration silencing people on social media so we're going to be very protective

00:23:07.800 of american interests when it comes to things like social media regulation we want to promote free

00:23:13.040 speech we don't want our european friends telling social media companies that they have to silence

00:23:17.820 christians or silence conservatives and i think there is going to be that friction over the next 10

00:23:22.820 years it's not that we're not friends right there are going to be some disagreements you didn't see

00:23:26.900 10 years ago so you know they have decided they're they're not going to pursue being a leader in in

00:23:32.160 ai but they're going to make all the rules um how confident are you that we are in a in a winning

00:23:39.960 position here on ai it is advancing so rapidly and the things i hear that comes out that come out of

00:23:47.240 china it's either now they're way behind it's all a paper tiger or they're way ahead

00:23:53.620 where where are we do you think on uh ai and you know agi well i think that we're ahead glenn but

00:24:03.600 nobody nobody says that we're way ahead should be believed um you know in in in artificial

00:24:10.100 intelligence six months is a lifetime yeah 12 months is a generation we're probably 12 months maybe

00:24:16.800 two years ahead of where the chinese are when it comes to critical hardware when it comes to the

00:24:21.600 necessary infrastructure when it comes to the engineering talent but that is not very far ahead

00:24:26.340 at all and we're really going to have to invest a lot in developing america's next generation of

00:24:32.660 scientists glenn we're going to have to make sure uh that our hardware companies that we stop

00:24:38.360 regulating them to death that our energy infrastructure that we stop regulating it to death

00:24:42.740 because if we allow the chinese to catch up we may never ever have an edge on china in this space again and

00:24:49.640 i think a lot of people you know artificial intelligence it's a chat bot it's it's something

00:24:54.220 that maybe helps the college student write a paper no no no the artificial intelligence that i'm worried

00:24:59.680 about glenn is is the kind of intelligence that helps them develop next generation weapons that helps

00:25:05.780 their rockets and missiles hit their target uh you know 99 more accurate than than the the the weapons

00:25:13.040 that aren't using artificial intelligence there are just massive defense technology implications of this

00:25:19.060 that it's it's kind of like you know what would have happened if the english army had fought the

00:25:24.880 americans in the revolutionary war and we had m16s and they had muskets we don't want to meet on a

00:25:30.520 battlefield of the future and have you know that we have the muskets and the chinese have the m16s

00:25:35.880 i think ai is a critical part of staying ahead of the communist chinese and it's something look

00:25:40.180 we're very focused on we've got a great guy in david sachs of the administration who's leading this effort

00:25:45.320 but it's full pedal to the metal blend we have to constantly be innovating and staying ahead of the

00:25:50.980 game we can't follow the european lead of regulating we want america to innovate and that's what we're

00:25:56.140 doing i spoke to the president a couple of weeks ago and he you know i was going to ask him about

00:26:01.420 nuclear energy and he just volunteered you know i said you know what about energy with uh ai and he's he

00:26:07.780 we went into saying you know they're gonna we're gonna we're talking about making them their own

00:26:11.580 uh their own utilities they can build it we're gonna clear even if they want to make nuclear power

00:26:16.760 plants that didn't print i mean i thought that was one of the bigger headlines of my lifetime and

00:26:23.080 nobody seemed to pick that up or care about that and uh we do lose if we don't have these power plants

00:26:30.820 are we what are we doing to accelerate i mean they need 99 of our power by 2020 uh 2028

00:26:39.140 99 of the power that's currently being made we need power plants yeah you're you're a smart guy

00:26:46.740 glenn because i don't know what else the president said during that interview but i doubt it was as

00:26:50.660 important as that point nothing this is a critical issue and and you ask what we've done we've had

00:26:58.440 lee zeldon at the epa and all of our environmental folks look at how we cut through the red tape and make

00:27:04.260 it possible because because you know the market would do this right these companies would like to

00:27:08.820 do this but it's the environmental bureaucrats that have told them you can't really attach a power plant

00:27:15.100 off grid to a pure you know artificial intelligence hardware facility we're tearing down those regulations

00:27:22.400 and making it possible again and and of course glenn part of this is not just building these facilities

00:27:28.180 but it's powering them with the fuel that we need and the president you know you hear this term all of

00:27:33.500 the above the president has really said we're in all the above like you know we're reducing regulations

00:27:39.760 on coal we're empowering the natural gas folks petroleum obviously nuclear like this is a president

00:27:46.280 who said all power that we have we need to put into this pro uh this prospect and glenn one more

00:27:52.900 important point on this if you look at a chart of electricity generation the people's republic of

00:27:57.860 china versus the united states uh 20 years ago we blew them out of the water right now the prc is

00:28:05.040 producing about three times as much electricity as we are and we flatlined over the last 20 years

00:28:10.960 that's innovation that's development that's got to change glenn we have got to be producing more

00:28:16.760 power for the next wave of innovation it's maybe the most important part of the puzzle so i was i did a show

00:28:23.240 last night on uh just that a reset is coming it's inevitable that a reset is coming and we we have to

00:28:30.200 hurry cut the budget um uh on shore uh fix the tariff or the uh the trade deficit or we don't really have

00:28:40.800 a chance of of doing anything and as i was looking at we ran three different models through ai and they

00:28:46.760 all came back with the same stuff and we're doing those the president is doing those things except

00:28:52.300 for the cutting of the budget i mean congress won't even pass the doge cuts when will the white house

00:29:00.820 become strong on you must cut the spending yeah great great question glenn and i will say the the big

00:29:12.160 beautiful bill text just came out last week that's going to change a lot from now until then we've

00:29:17.760 already had conversations with you know house leadership that we we want to see some some more

00:29:23.280 significant efforts to rein in spending here yeah the president also believes glenn and he's right about

00:29:28.780 that that if you cut the trade deficit or you you know you raise revenue through tariffs that you

00:29:35.380 actually go a long way to making the country on a more sustainable fiscal pathway as well but you're right

00:29:41.400 you can't do it without cutting domestic spending right we're gonna have to do it and get serious

00:29:45.760 about it i mean i think the red making that as clear to congressional leaders as possible but look

00:29:50.360 i i you know knock on wood here but i think that once we get the final package out of the the house

00:29:58.180 and the senate we're gonna have something that's serious on um on on budget cutting and there's there's

00:30:03.580 one final point on this glenn what no one talks enough about it where i you know when i talk to elon i

00:30:08.600 talk to the doge folks where they think they're going to get the most cuts is in taking people

00:30:14.540 illegal aliens and other people who are defrauding the medicare medicaid and social security system

00:30:21.140 like you think about two people right a guy who's paid into social security for 40 years

00:30:25.780 obviously we want that guy to get his social security benefits you compare that person to an

00:30:30.540 illegal alien who's engaged in medicaid fraud obviously we don't want that person to get their benefits

00:30:36.480 i think democrats are going to fight us on this but this is such an important point we cannot allow

00:30:43.360 people to defraud the medicare and medicaid system or it's going to bankrupt this country

00:30:48.640 it's also just fundamentally unfair i don't want people who shouldn't even be here to be on the public

00:30:53.840 dole right i know you're headed over to um the vatican you're going to be celebrating the inaugural

00:30:59.360 mass of pope leo uh this weekend along with senator rubio who's also catholic um you had the one of the

00:31:06.320 last the conversations with the last pope um why why does the pope matter so much to the world and

00:31:15.120 and and and i want to talk beyond uh faith and religion why is he so important well you know

00:31:23.800 obviously right he he is the the leader of 1.4 billion catholics and so there is just a a lot of

00:31:30.420 soft influence right he doesn't have a military he doesn't have an army but he does have a lot of

00:31:34.960 influence through those catholics and you know a lot of those catholics i think we won a majority

00:31:39.500 of catholics in the last election but a lot of those catholics continue to vote democratic and so

00:31:44.300 you know there is just a natural influence in and and having the ear of 1.4 billion faithful people

00:31:52.720 including you know 100 million or so in the united states i also think when something i've picked up on

00:31:58.520 and you don't see a lot of headlines about this but you know the vatican has already played a very

00:32:03.380 constructive role in some of the peace conversations that we've been having all over the world uh they've

00:32:09.620 been trying to facilitate negotiations between the russians and the ukrainians they've been trying to

00:32:14.060 facilitate other peaceful negotiations between various countries and so you know they they have that

00:32:19.800 soft power right they have the ear of those catholics but then they also have an ability to use that

00:32:25.620 soft power uh to play a mediating role in some of these disputes so you know while the the pope doesn't

00:32:31.540 have an f-35 standing behind him he does have the the prayers of a lot of faithful catholics and that

00:32:37.160 matters when you try to insert yourself into these conversations so we welcome that engagement as you

00:32:42.560 know the president really does believe uh that we can have less conflict in the world if we just have

00:32:48.220 cooler heads prevail so yeah we welcome that engagement and we'll continue to do so over the next few years

00:32:53.120 um thank you so much uh mr vice president for all you do if you don't know why he picked leo as his

00:32:58.120 name you in particular will be fascinated by it you'll have to ask him uh because it's it's you'll love

00:33:04.560 you'll love the reason why he did um have a safe trip thank you for everything that you've done

00:33:09.440 and uh godspeed thanks go on take care man bye jd vance our vice president this is the best of the

00:33:18.440 glenn beck program uh scotus is uh listening to arguments on birthright citizenship the focus

00:33:26.240 really is on the judge's power to block policies nationwide um that that's got to stop that just

00:33:32.460 has to stop but we'll see what the supreme court has to say that's really the focus of this too it's

00:33:36.400 really not as much about birthright citizenship right like they from what i'm understanding the

00:33:41.920 this one is going to be very junctions yeah and it's going to be very narrow even on the

00:33:46.660 injunctions i think really yeah so we'll we'll see we'll see um so welcome to the uh program we're

00:33:55.120 glad you're here um you know who's not here is ben and jerry uh he's here in my heart i mean in that

00:34:01.840 way but i mean by like the calcium built up from right from all of the heart disease yeah that i've

00:34:06.260 received from the company over the years um but yeah no he's not here he was at the that big hearing he

00:34:11.140 was i i'm getting it's difficult to understand where everyone is anymore like i feel like at the

00:34:16.340 time it was this was easier back in the day you know like you could kind of like you hear ben and

00:34:21.380 jerry you knew left right like it was easy um now i you know i i miss the days when we could just put

00:34:28.960 labels on people and it was easy it was easy it made things a little bit easier to keep track of

00:34:33.380 you know like some people have put the lab uh the label anti-semite for example on ben and jerry

00:34:39.000 their company uh over the years that was a label that i thought was interesting right um you know

00:34:44.240 it's but it's he's like now opposing rfk who i mean i think it's on probably ben and jerry's side on

00:34:52.820 many things almost everything right like there are some things rfk has obviously changed on when it

00:34:59.300 comes to the woke stuff and i think some of the censorship stuff although i think you know i think

00:35:03.600 i could be wrong on this but maybe ben might even be one of those old school socialist types that

00:35:08.400 would would maybe even agree with us on some of the censorship stuff right maybe maybe um you know

00:35:15.880 because i mean it's part of the set the socialist movement in the united states was kind of built on

00:35:20.420 the opposition right was kind of built on the opposition to like the mccarthyism yeah and and

00:35:25.480 so there was there's some right ideological for that when they were the ones being shut up of course

00:35:30.220 that's the way it always works yeah and now they're not the ones being told to shut up they're like

00:35:33.900 we have every right to tell you to shut up yeah oh okay let me ask you this though because i

00:35:39.260 he's also been embraced by some parts of the right um and and you know like tucker did an interview

00:35:47.600 with him that's not an embrace you could talk to whoever you want to talk to right there's nothing

00:35:51.480 wrong with that we've done it we've talked to people on the far far left even much farther left

00:35:55.680 and crazier than even ben or jerry over the years i no problem with that as a journalist you should do

00:36:01.740 that i mean you know tucker talked to vladimir putin yeah right so did megan kelly yeah i i would

00:36:06.760 talk to uh america's biggest enemies yeah but i i wouldn't be like sucking up to him right you would

00:36:14.400 ask tough questions i'm sure i'm sure tucker did in the interview um but we are i've noticed this

00:36:20.280 thing that we're doing and i'm a little concerned okay let me let me see if i can articulate this

00:36:25.300 um us on the the right the conservative side of the spectrum find someone who has some crossover

00:36:36.860 with us in some way um but is really a figure of the left okay and we kind of give them this warm

00:36:44.960 embrace and say hey come on over we've got this thing that we agree on it's wonderful and then they

00:36:50.440 sort of become part of the movement and that's totally fine like let me give you an example

00:36:56.960 tulsi gabbard i really like tulsi gabbard she's been on the show a bunch of times she's in the

00:37:01.880 administration right now counter as a friend she's she's great so this is not a criticism i'm glad

00:37:06.480 tulsi gabbard has had this this awakening over the years i'm i'm excited about that but so she comes

00:37:11.820 over she's you know she she supported bernie sanders ran the sanders campaign in hawaii uh back in

00:37:18.220 the day you know not that long ago but she's had a transition she's come over and obviously he's in

00:37:23.100 the trump administration now and so we we look at that and we say hey that's great we brought someone

00:37:30.160 from the left over to our side and that's great if that's what you're doing if you're convincing

00:37:35.540 someone on the left to convert their ideas into something closer to your ideas that's a that's a

00:37:41.220 positive change you're widening the tent in a way that we all can support but really what tulsi's

00:37:47.280 doing in the government right now is she's being consistent with her old left-wing views on things

00:37:54.920 like uh you know stopping wars and uh not you know and and being tough on intelligence issues

00:38:01.340 with the government yeah because we woke up on that well because we've changed right yeah so the

00:38:06.220 and that's what i'm getting to here what seems to be happening is we're embracing things on the left

00:38:11.340 and it's not us changing their views into ours it's us changing our views into theirs and then and

00:38:19.000 then embracing some of those people that's not necessarily bad if we were wrong the whole time

00:38:23.020 right yeah and i think we were on the endless wars yeah i mean i i i you know some of that i agree with

00:38:28.940 right i the phrasing of it and and maybe the the the scope of it maybe i'm not fully there but

00:38:35.060 generally speaking i think you know we've definitely overstepped our our bounds at times

00:38:39.060 um but a lot of times yeah i don't think that's improper to say but i mean again i look at the way

00:38:46.260 trump handles that and it's different than what tulsi's vision of this is i think no trump is trump

00:38:50.580 is it's tough i think trump is ronald reagan i'll pound you into the sand i will i will turn your sand

00:38:58.160 into glass don't screw with us but but yeah but then he's like but we're buddies right now so you don't

00:39:03.880 want to be buddies we'll be buddies i mean i like to for example of this his syria move i think it's

00:39:09.660 fascinating and i think i think the right move i'm not 100 sure i'm not 100 it's a very complicated

00:39:16.620 situation but like i think it's worth taking a stab at this it's a new regime the guy used to be

00:39:24.400 literally in al-qaeda i know okay however maybe he's changed i think the chances of it are low

00:39:32.760 but why not pull that lottery ticket because the downside is what we already had so give it you

00:39:38.540 give a shot you give the guy a handshake you say hey we're gonna drop these sanctions we're gonna

00:39:43.440 give you a chance to not turn yourself into the old regime and i think that's the right approach i

00:39:50.120 think it's nobody is ever turned by lectures yeah or like opponents lectures in particular right i mean

00:39:56.980 you turn people through love and understanding and giving them the benefit of the doubt it's great until

00:40:02.080 they prove you wrong it's a great point and i think it ties back to my my my previous uh the

00:40:08.160 way we started this conversation which is a lot of people in our movement are being won over to

00:40:14.900 previous left-wing positions by new friends and that is not bad in and of itself but we've done it a lot

00:40:24.880 lately and i'm giving some better examples because um i changed not because of tulsi no uh no no you

00:40:32.260 know but the movement and the reason why i like tulsi at first um was i like the fact that she was

00:40:38.940 willing to stand up to her own machine and say no you guys are wrong you guys are going down this

00:40:44.400 fascistic route and i won't go there with you you you're changing all the rules you're you're not who

00:40:50.480 you said you were that's why i originally liked her because she'd take on her own people and that

00:40:55.580 takes courage so it shows you something about her character then when you get to know her you realize

00:41:00.860 oh we might disagree on taxes and everything else but she loves the country she loves and reveres the

00:41:07.120 constitution of the united states if i can get you on the bill of rights we don't have any differences

00:41:12.660 too big to not be able to bridge and again i i don't think tulsi is a problem no i i don't i'm not

00:41:19.320 that's not what i'm saying um but you know you have let's tulsi is in dni you have uh rfk jr hhs

00:41:27.360 it's a big one right like i mean you know you look at the way rfk jr approaches uh i mean he look he

00:41:34.400 he he's awfully close to someone who like a michael bloomberg on public health issues this is something

00:41:42.160 we now he was a you know kind of a republican in new york at one point but you know obviously it was

00:41:47.500 something that i know we oppose in the audience loudly oppose when he was trying to control what

00:41:52.280 you eat now he has some you know i think there's some differences i'm not saying there aren't any

00:41:56.180 but like you know going after uh you know food companies and changing the way that's a change

00:42:02.520 for the if that's what the right is that is a change for the right we were always in favor of people

00:42:07.880 making their own choices and having uh companies be able to produce the products within some guidelines

00:42:13.320 yeah as long as they're as long as they are not killing people or right or harming there are

00:42:18.240 guidelines there's guardrails of course all of this but like generally speaking ours were wide

00:42:22.480 the left's were small right and now we've taken the guy who was the voice of the left's view on those

00:42:27.680 rfk jr and put him in charge of the right's view of it and is that a good thing maybe it's great

00:42:32.580 maybe he's been completely right this whole time and we should have been approaching things that way

00:42:36.480 i think if our society was not getting sicker and sicker and sicker um then there's reasons for

00:42:43.720 all this stuff but like we should we should we should notice those things you know he's he's a

00:42:49.540 really i think uh big example of that because that is it's a massive change to the way that we've

00:42:55.800 we've done these things another one is trade peter navarro ran as a democrat over and over and over

00:43:01.660 and over again because on these trade ideas now donald trump has been consistent with these trade

00:43:06.540 ideas since the day he was in the public eye there's nobody there's um there's nobody who has

00:43:11.340 been more outspoken on the anti-trade up until recently than me and you you're still outspoken on

00:43:18.740 it i i think i think we have to give it a shot because we're we're behind the eight ball here yeah i mean

00:43:24.940 i i don't i don't like the policy i don't agree but i i again it's separate from whether each

00:43:30.780 individual one of these is right there's a lot of these and over time i think you'd acknowledge

00:43:36.680 it's going to add up to a completely different formula it might be the right thing for us to do

00:43:42.100 but isn't this but we should notice each one of these changes i think isn't this and i think you're

00:43:46.420 right on that but isn't this the same as i mean you're not the same guy i met 30 years ago totally

00:43:52.000 we all change yeah we all change and that's good and we should notice when we change because then we

00:43:56.860 learn from wait why did i just change did i change for the right reasons or did something

00:44:02.500 happen to me is somebody around me that's changing this you you do we do have to pay attention to the

00:44:08.740 change but um i think change is good it can be yeah you know i mean if it's if it's if it's well

00:44:17.040 thought out if it is still built on principles um and an evolving understanding not of truth

00:44:25.140 but uh how to get to the truth like i for instance the foreign war thing i just know right now what

00:44:34.940 we've been doing is not working it's not going to make the world safer ever ever ever ever it's not

00:44:40.720 um however sometimes it has obviously in previous wars um but yes i the meddling of everybody trying

00:44:48.740 to you can't control everything yeah and this it just doesn't it's not going to work and it making

00:44:53.340 things it's making things worse now pulling all the way back and saying you know what we don't you

00:45:00.760 know we don't want to be involved in the rest of the world that doesn't sound good to me yeah and i

00:45:05.900 i think that's what trump is doing right and it but it might be the right thing i just know i know

00:45:11.280 for sure that what we had been doing doesn't work and i really believed in what we were doing

00:45:17.000 now i believed in what i thought we were doing you know what i mean oh yeah for sure and so

00:45:22.600 we have to make changes and changes in almost everything and as long as it's logical as long as

00:45:29.780 you have really thought things out as long as you're not just conforming you know the real the

00:45:35.820 really scary thing is when people begin to conform for any other reason other than logic i've reasoned

00:45:45.380 this out i've asked critical questions and i'm sorry i'd love more information that might change me

00:45:51.980 out of this position but this is where i find myself out find myself at and even if i'm uncomfortable

00:45:58.180 i have to stand here because this is my current understanding of what's best you know and as long as you

00:46:05.160 keep an open mind and you're constantly seeking to have a better understand of of deeper truths

00:46:11.800 um then i think you're then i think you're fine but you know one of the things that we're going to

00:46:17.580 face especially with ai is all of a sudden we're going to conform because google would give you page

00:46:23.120 after page after page after page of different information uh chat gpt chat gpt gives you one answer

00:46:30.060 and you just assume it's right yeah they don't give you any that's gonna be a fascinating development

00:46:36.220 in our society oh my gosh and it's already there you just totally is you googled and you had to go

00:46:40.700 and reason and look at different things and everything else this is one answer here it is i know it's right

00:46:46.900 because it came from ai very dangerous i guess the thing is just the part i guess we really agree on is

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