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00:02:53.240 I'm going to jam a lot of information in the next few minutes.

00:02:56.980 So, see, I'm going to try to make it easy for you to follow.

00:03:01.040 So, in the late 1960s, there was an article that was published in The Nation by two socialists named Richard Andrew Cloward and his wife, Frances Fox Piven.

00:03:11.580 The LBJ new state, the welfare state, had just been passed. 0.56

00:03:18.520 And so, the nation published this article from Cloward and Piven.

00:03:26.080 It was a strategy using the Saul Alinsky rule, make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.

00:03:33.120 The welfare state was now the book of rules.

00:03:37.520 So, Cloward and Piven decided, we can launch a campaign.

00:03:41.860 They wanted to try to collapse New York City.

00:03:44.580 And they did.

00:03:45.600 They launched a campaign to overwhelm and collapse the system through government welfare programs.

00:03:52.060 It involved, quote, a massive drive to recruit the poor onto the welfare rolls.

00:03:58.060 Under this strategy, welfare was a Trojan horse to make the entire system overwhelm and collapse.

00:04:05.000 The more people that got onto welfare, the state economy would buckle under the strain.

00:04:10.980 The welfare state was now being ordered from the top down.

00:04:14.180 But Cloward and Piven said, bottom up.

00:04:17.440 And it could be led by, quote, demonstrations and cadres of aggressive organizers.

00:04:25.580 Don't you think that's what we have?

00:04:27.000 Now, that was in the 1960s.

00:04:28.900 I pointed this out and everybody said, oh, she was just a little old grandmother.

00:04:34.860 You know, he's dead.

00:04:35.880 She's not making any impact.

00:04:37.520 But, however, once I stopped talking about her, in 2020, just before the election,

00:04:44.100 the New York Times said,

00:04:47.000 Francis Fox Piven has become the intellectual guru of activist progressives.

00:04:53.420 What is she preaching?

00:04:54.560 Is it anything new?

00:04:55.440 It said, quote, she's trying to work with, saying that working within the system is terribly misplaced.

00:05:04.800 Ms. Piven argues, since it's rigged by the elites against the poor, what's needed is a sense of crisis that will force change.

00:05:16.140 Okay.

00:05:16.660 Now, it began with welfare.

00:05:21.620 But it's now everywhere.

00:05:23.280 By the way, do you remember the National Voter Registration Act of 1993?

00:05:29.640 Bill Clinton signed in.

00:05:30.840 Do you know who came up with that?

00:05:32.940 Cloward and Piven.

00:05:34.560 It eliminated the controls on voter fraud.

00:05:38.180 It made it easier for voters to register, but difficult to determine validity.

00:05:42.980 Examiners were under orders not to ask anyone for identification or proof of citizenship.

00:05:47.600 And it started with the mailing of voter registrations, enabling anyone to register without personal contact with a registrar or an official.

00:05:58.200 Okay?

00:05:59.160 Any of this sound like it's going to lead up to an overwhelming of the system?

00:06:03.860 Because it has.

00:06:05.580 Cloward and Piven, they were looking at just a couple of things.

00:06:15.940 But this strategy now has been used all across the spectrum of American society.

00:06:21.280 You feel a little overwhelmed with everything that's going on with your schools?

00:06:25.220 Do you feel a little overwhelmed by what's being shoveled at you in the news?

00:06:31.800 Do you feel a little overwhelmed when you go to pay your rent, pay your bills at the end of the month?

00:06:37.420 Do you feel a little overwhelmed when you are looking at your job, your income, price of inflation?

00:06:44.960 Do you feel a little overwhelmed with your debt?

00:06:48.300 How about the nation's debt?

00:06:49.620 The U.S. national debt is now on pace to top $54 trillion in the next 10 years.

00:06:58.040 Everyone, including the optimistic Congressional Budget Office, says it's not sustainable.

00:07:05.500 Americans can't afford groceries. 0.98

00:07:07.720 But the government says it's not our fault, it's the grocery stores.

00:07:11.160 Record number of Americans can no longer pay their rent.

00:07:14.140 But will government alter its fiscal policies?

00:07:16.840 No.

00:07:17.060 In fact, they've doubled down.

00:07:18.680 You remember the Cloward's Piven strategy, push it to the brink, watch it collapse.

00:07:24.040 So how do you do that with welfare?

00:07:26.300 Well, Biden has not changed the law.

00:07:31.060 His administration has just issued new guidelines for Medicaid.

00:07:37.580 Medicaid.

00:07:39.660 Medicaid.

00:07:42.780 Medicine.

00:07:43.660 Medicaid now includes cover for rent, utility, and food.

00:07:50.780 It's becoming universal basic income.

00:07:55.340 I showed you record amounts of Americans can no longer pay for groceries and rent.

00:07:59.560 Now Medicaid's going to take all of that on and increase the debt.

00:08:04.740 Keep looking through this lens and re-examine what's happening at our border.

00:08:10.680 2023, worst year for illegal immigration ever.

00:08:15.020 10 million Americans.

00:08:16.800 Sorry, 10 million foreigners. 1.00

00:08:18.520 We don't know who they are.

00:08:20.200 All across.

00:08:21.120 They equal the size of a state now that is bigger than 38 of the 50 states.

00:08:33.120 Nobody's doing anything.

00:08:34.160 In fact, the new Biden policy is release them.

00:08:39.620 ICE circulated a plan to continue to release.

00:08:43.420 Just release them.

00:08:45.300 No, no, we don't even have to track them anymore.

00:08:47.200 Just release them.

00:08:49.880 Now, I want you to know 59% of non-citizen households that we know of, this includes illegals, 0.83

00:08:57.840 are drawing on government welfare.

00:09:00.960 You are paying for them.

00:09:04.260 22% are just taking direct cash.

00:09:08.460 42% are using welfare food programs.

00:09:11.720 42% using Medicaid, which now includes rent and housing.

00:09:19.780 Hmm.

00:09:21.220 Now, let me just give you some of the headlines in the news.

00:09:24.660 With that in mind,

00:09:27.380 Biden administration continues to ignore the Supreme Court ruling.

00:09:31.560 They just wiped out another $1.2 billion in student loan.

00:09:36.880 Supreme Court said they can't do it.

00:09:38.720 They're doing it anyway.

00:09:40.040 Why?

00:09:40.460 Well, they want the votes.

00:09:41.900 Is that what it is?

00:09:44.820 Hochul.

00:09:46.060 Listen to this phrasing.

00:09:47.640 New York, quote,

00:09:49.020 is absolutely overwhelmed by illegals.

00:09:53.980 We need a break.

00:09:55.900 We are at a breaking point.

00:09:58.880 Hmm.

00:10:00.340 Denver schools facing unprecedented challenges with influx of migrant students.

00:10:05.860 Interest on the national debt is now exceeding our entire defense budget.

00:10:16.160 Interest on the money we've borrowed is now a bigger payment than our entire war machine.

00:10:26.480 Why won't they stop it?

00:10:27.740 Why won't they stop it?

00:10:30.020 Well, shut down, slow down.

00:10:33.540 The showdown now between the Freedom Caucus and Republicans and Democrats give Johnson terms for a spending fight.

00:10:41.140 Radicalized conservatives say they've got to rein in spending.

00:10:49.280 Nobody's even willing to point out what I just said.

00:10:53.740 The interest alone.

00:10:55.660 Who is paying for all of these migrants? 1.00

00:10:58.760 I showed you yesterday.

00:11:00.520 One.

00:11:01.760 One hotel in New York.

00:11:04.120 One.

00:11:05.180 Is costing us $7.2 million every month.

00:11:11.000 Here's a shock.

00:11:16.820 California Legislative Analyst's Office Tuesday increased this year's projected state budget shortfall to $73 billion.

00:11:27.840 Now, remember, they just released this a couple of months ago and said, oh, it's not so bad.

00:11:34.220 Now they've doubled the debt for the year to $73 billion.

00:11:41.000 He projected $38 billion last month.

00:11:46.980 Why?

00:11:48.620 Well, the stock market's going up, but we're just not collecting enough taxes on that.

00:11:55.440 Really?

00:11:56.140 Is it that?

00:11:57.400 Is it that?

00:12:00.920 They've decided they're going to cut.

00:12:02.920 You ready?

00:12:03.300 Money that hasn't yet been dispersed for wildfire resilience, flood control, and IT overhaul for the unemployment benefit system,

00:12:17.420 which scammers pilfered tens of billions of dollars from it in the last four years.

00:12:24.400 You're going to do that and what?

00:12:29.540 Maybe have another needle handout program? 0.59

00:12:32.580 What?

00:12:33.840 How about we study more transgender things for the schools?

00:12:37.840 Meanwhile, while that's going on, California Democrats are introducing a bill to divert the surplus funds

00:12:48.360 to reparations.

00:12:54.880 Why would we be talking about reparations at this point?

00:13:00.340 Oh, you know what?

00:13:01.160 It would overwhelm the system, wouldn't it?

00:13:04.640 Most Americans are now spending 11.3 of their income on food.

00:13:09.900 The last time that happened was during the Gulf War.

00:13:14.060 And try this from the New York Post.

00:13:17.520 World Bank president said, when it comes to a country's over-indebtedness, the four most dangerous words are,

00:13:26.420 this time it's different.

00:13:29.040 But it's not different.

00:13:33.360 It's not only a single major country with troubling debt.

00:13:37.240 Each of the world's major economies has a serious debt problem caused by too many years of irresponsible budget policies

00:13:46.300 and zero interest rates, and it could make it all the more difficult to avoid a recession

00:13:51.500 and renewed financial strain at home.

00:13:56.880 All Western countries are in our position, many of them worse.

00:14:02.460 Why are we spending all of this money?

00:14:09.360 Why have we given Ukraine more than it took in inflation-adjusted dollars,

00:14:15.580 than it took to rebuild Europe under the Marshall Plan?

00:14:22.300 Why have we just given that money to them?

00:14:29.280 Cloward and Piven.

00:14:30.900 Listen, this is why nothing will be done at the border.

00:14:35.120 This is why nothing will be done about mail-in ballots.

00:14:40.480 The excuse is, well, we don't have the results overnight like we used to,

00:14:46.700 because, well, all of the mail-in ballots, and it's just a little overwhelmed.

00:14:50.560 Oh, the system's been overwhelmed.

00:14:53.220 Hmm.

00:14:57.180 I hope that helps you understand your world a little bit better.

00:15:00.900 Okay, more from the podcast here in just a second.

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00:16:04.260 Now, back to the podcast.

00:16:09.340 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

00:16:14.000 Over 50,000 AT&T outages were reported officially at 7 a.m. Eastern time this morning.

00:16:22.220 Most issues were happening in Houston, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, and Atlanta.

00:16:28.100 But other systems were also affected.

00:16:33.520 Verizon and T-Mobile looks like they're heading on the way back up, and most of it is fixed.

00:16:41.940 They don't know what it was.

00:16:43.660 But yesterday, there was a cyber attack on the phone systems, the cellular systems in Israel,

00:16:49.600 and the Israelis are reporting that that was Iran that did that.

00:16:53.180 But I think this is only a matter of time before we see stuff that will cause real problems.

00:17:01.440 There's a guy, John Acuff, he wrote today, tweeted,

00:17:06.520 Once you've read One Second After, cell phone outages carry a different weight.

00:17:13.900 And it's true. 0.56

00:17:14.920 If you've never read One Second After, I highly, highly recommend it.

00:17:20.660 It was written by William Forstian, and he tells a story about what happens one second after an EMP.

00:17:32.040 And it, I mean, you will, it will open your eyes into how dependent we are.

00:17:38.440 And this was written years ago.

00:17:40.520 And at the time, I was like, oh my gosh, I never even thought of that.

00:17:43.780 Oh man, yeah, that would no longer, you just don't think of it.

00:17:47.960 And William's with us now to talk about the outage and attacks on our infrastructure.

00:17:55.280 Hi, William, how are you?

00:17:56.780 Good morning, Glenn, and thank you for the kind words about my book, Still Selling Strong.

00:18:01.260 Yeah, it's fantastic.

00:18:03.720 So, William, the attack on cell phones.

00:18:08.540 Our cell phones go down, and I think a lot of America, they go into detox immediately.

00:18:16.300 They're just like, I don't know what to do.

00:18:19.540 But this is something, we don't know about today, but this is something that we know,

00:18:26.420 our Department of Homeland Security is saying, they are waiting for cyber attacks.

00:18:30.840 It's a matter of when, not if, anymore.

00:18:36.340 And they're preparing.

00:18:37.960 Go ahead.

00:18:39.380 You know, Glenn, my college, Montreat College, has a strong cybersecurity training program.

00:18:44.720 And I'll go in their lab and just sit there sometimes.

00:18:48.140 Half hour later, I walk out scared to death.

00:18:50.140 Because if you saw the number of attacks, incoming attacks on our infrastructure, on our military, it's unrelenting.

00:19:01.180 We don't even know if some of them have broken through, put sleepers into them, and are waiting to hit.

00:19:08.580 This is just a foretaste of the future.

00:19:10.900 So, tell me what you think is most likely, and how it will affect us, and how we should prepare for it.

00:19:21.660 Well, first of all, if our cell phones really weren't dead, my daughter would have a nervous breakdown.

00:19:26.260 Yeah, I know.

00:19:26.920 I think a lot of our children would.

00:19:28.820 All our kids would.

00:19:29.260 Yeah.

00:19:30.040 The whole college.

00:19:31.060 But number one, of course, is cyber attack.

00:19:35.560 That's unrelenting from Russia, any number of bad players. 0.93

00:19:39.600 Number two, actual physical attack.

00:19:41.520 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:19:42.860 Cyber attack could include our water system, our electrical grid, or do you think it would be all of it, or some of it?

00:19:52.680 It could be targeted to a specific or in a general offensive, like what I would call a first strike scenario, a wide spread.

00:20:00.860 For example, take where you are.

00:20:03.660 Suppose water all across the board was shut down for 48 hours, because that's all electronically controlled.

00:20:10.120 What would happen to your town in one day if all water was turned off?

00:20:15.800 Wouldn't be good.

00:20:17.720 It would be very bad within 24 to 48 hours.

00:20:21.800 Yes.

00:20:22.080 I'm mainly focused more on our electrical infrastructure.

00:20:26.740 I've been doing a lot of work.

00:20:27.880 I just talked with FEMA last week.

00:20:31.560 That's the bad one, because if you lose electricity, that's the fundamental building block.

00:20:36.860 Then everything goes.

00:20:37.920 Water, food, medical, all of it.

00:20:40.500 All our distribution systems are gone.

00:20:42.660 How prepared, I hate asking people questions like this who know, how prepared are we?

00:20:53.460 We're not.

00:20:55.660 Okay.

00:20:56.580 You know, it was, and let me point out.

00:20:59.280 You're not improving my mood much.

00:21:01.080 In my talk with Southeast FEMA last week, there are a lot of good people working in that system.

00:21:11.440 They're not bad guys.

00:21:12.580 And they say the number one thing is, if only Americans would be prepared, one month worth of emergency supplies on hand.

00:21:21.520 That applies to everybody, whether you're living in an apartment in the city.

00:21:25.000 Have emergency water on hand.

00:21:27.540 Have food on hand.

00:21:29.800 Charge your systems up.

00:21:31.500 Have a small cell phone charger.

00:21:35.620 These are basic things, and 90% of Americans just blithely go along.

00:21:40.680 It could be a very bad day.

00:21:42.300 Don't you want to be prepared before rather than after?

00:21:45.500 So if something like this happens, would we be, do you think we'd be in lockdown situation, or would you be able to travel, you know, to?

00:21:54.400 Lockdown.

00:21:55.520 Lockdown.

00:21:56.480 If you lost your whole electrical grid, even just regionally, it would very quickly have to be a lockdown to avoid panic, try and keep control on population.

00:22:08.440 Those people living in New York, remember when Sandy hit 10 years ago, it got a little hairy there, even though tens of thousands of tons of emergency supplies were being moved in.

00:22:19.500 If it had gone for two weeks, it would have been very bad.

00:22:22.600 Yeah.

00:22:23.120 My uncle used to work for, I don't know what department in the military, but he did some of the original studies on, you know, the after effects of war and crisis and everything else.

00:22:39.340 And he said, generally speaking, you have 72 hours.

00:22:42.880 If everything isn't restored in 72 hours.

00:22:45.680 Right.

00:22:46.120 You're done.

00:22:46.940 You're done.

00:22:48.720 He is dead on the mark.

00:22:51.200 72 hour max.

00:22:53.040 Again, if you have a, everybody listening to you, if you have a month's worth of emergency supplies on hand, it doesn't cost that much.

00:23:00.220 You can at least hunker down and be safe while the crazies are running up and down the street.

00:23:07.820 So if we had, you know, there's, it's, it's strange.

00:23:11.740 Um, you know, I, I thought EMP is the worst thing that could happen to us ever.

00:23:17.820 Um, however, the more I see AI and everything else, it may, in the end, and I'm saying 50 years from now, if AI has gotten out of control and EMP might be our best friend, it will kill millions of people, but it would release a slavery.

00:23:34.360 If God forbid, you know, I'm in science fiction world here, but God forbid AI went, went bad.

00:23:40.440 I mean, it's, uh, the ones in zeros would have to be confused.

00:23:46.140 Well, the EMP scenario, which is indeed the worst, according to two congressional studies, which I based my novels on, I've got four books out on the subject, 80 to 90% of the population would be dead a year later.

00:23:59.600 And people go, what?

00:24:01.500 Again, no food, no water, no medical supply, no command and control.

00:24:05.800 People die.

00:24:06.900 And they die very quickly.

00:24:08.300 You know, when you, uh, when I, when I read, this is years ago, one second after you, you know, you got to the 30 day mark and you started talking about what was coming, you know, in the next.

00:24:21.400 And I thought, oh my gosh, I've never even thought of that.

00:24:25.440 I mean, you're just, we're just not prepared even mentally to what would come.

00:24:30.060 Explain the 30 day mark.

00:24:32.500 Okay.

00:24:32.980 Uh, when I started working on the book, I went, I interviewed numerous different sources.

00:24:39.480 I remember two in particular going to my chief of police, talking with him about, and I say, okay, the grid goes down.

00:24:46.860 What do you do first?

00:24:48.260 He actually picked up the phone and then he said, oh, blank, my phones don't work.

00:24:52.700 I said, yeah, now what are you going to do?

00:24:54.500 The other interview was with the pharmacist at the end of one hour talking with her, she was in tears.

00:25:02.120 And I darn near was in tears as well, because think about your pharmacy.

00:25:06.640 You go in, you get a medication, they put it into a computer and a day later it comes back out or nursing homes.

00:25:15.240 They're dead.

00:25:16.720 The vast majority of people in nursing homes will be dead within a week.

00:25:20.200 This is a scary scenario, isn't it?

00:25:22.920 Yeah, it is.

00:25:25.000 And, uh, especially in today's world where we have so many people with technology that was not even around when you wrote the book, uh, or it was an infant stage.

00:25:35.600 And now, you know, we know these attacks are happening all the time.

00:25:41.140 Uh, we, we know there are many countries that would like to take us down and our Achilles heel, you know, is we don't live in caves far from it.

00:25:50.880 And if, if you are going against a, uh, a cave dwelling nation, if they can knock out the electricity, we're dead. 0.99

00:26:01.060 They know how to live.

00:26:02.720 Um, and it's, it's not good, not good.

00:26:05.560 Well, you know, uh, and the EMP scenario, which I wrote about one second after, uh, I had North Korea as the main player, most likely we'll never really know.

00:26:16.560 And it was pointed out.

00:26:18.200 Yeah.

00:26:18.800 Okay.

00:26:19.200 They screwed us over.

00:26:20.600 We turned them back into the stone age.

00:26:23.420 And my main character at the end said, what difference does that make for us?

00:26:27.460 We're dead.

00:26:28.200 Anyhow.

00:26:29.160 What good is revenge at this point?

00:26:31.760 Yeah.

00:26:32.040 A third world country like North Korea, the leadership will just go 2000 feet underground.

00:26:37.680 Yeah.

00:26:38.380 And wait it out.

00:26:39.180 Won't matter.

00:26:39.740 What happens to us?

00:26:40.760 Yeah.

00:26:41.200 What happens to us?

00:26:43.140 Well, Bill, it's always great to talk to you.

00:26:45.060 Uh, yeah.

00:26:48.900 Yeah.

00:26:49.200 My girlfriend says that on a regular basis.

00:26:51.240 Yeah.

00:26:51.480 Yeah.

00:26:51.720 She's cheerful today.

00:26:52.560 Yeah.

00:26:52.920 But I don't know if she's ever said what my wife has said.

00:26:55.680 We've gone to a party one time and she knocks on the door and then she looks at me just before the doors open.

00:27:01.260 And she went, do not make anyone cry.

00:27:05.580 I know.

00:27:06.700 I know.

00:27:07.320 I've done it.

00:27:08.220 I have too.

00:27:09.840 God bless you.

00:27:10.760 Thank you so much, Bill.

00:27:11.760 I appreciate it.

00:27:12.380 And keep up the good work when you're getting the word out.

00:27:15.180 Thank you.

00:27:15.540 God bless you.

00:27:16.040 One Second After is the name of the book and he's got follow-ups after that.

00:27:20.680 It's a must read.

00:27:22.160 It is.

00:27:22.580 It's a fascinating book and fun to read.

00:27:25.240 I mean, fun to read as a novel.

00:27:27.840 It's fun to read.

00:27:29.340 And you'll think of things and it will help you on.

00:27:33.520 It's why really, honestly, I'm like, I gotta get an x-ray machine.

00:27:37.200 I gotta get something because nothing works.

00:27:41.640 Nothing works if this all would happen unless it's, you know, protected.

00:27:48.920 But anyway, check it out.

00:27:50.700 It's One Second After.

00:27:56.360 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:27:58.500 So, Stu, this is riveting and it might get too meaty, don't you think?

00:28:07.920 Yeah.

00:28:08.600 Yeah.

00:28:09.400 Maybe.

00:28:09.960 But I think, you know.

00:28:11.260 The way they explain it.

00:28:12.800 It's an entertaining story for the whole family.

00:28:16.320 Right.

00:28:16.560 It really is.

00:28:17.240 And that's kind of what makes it easy to communicate.

00:28:19.020 So, uh, the two state solution, which is Israel living side by side, uh, with, um, uh, with 0.70

00:28:30.520 Hamas is, you know, not something that you would think would really work. 0.99

00:28:36.300 Um, but no, the Biden administration has really thought this thing through.

00:28:42.780 I, I am, I was surprised.

00:28:44.760 I kind of thought maybe they really didn't put much thought into this, um, but actually

00:28:49.680 it's, it's impressive.

00:28:51.940 Yeah.

00:28:52.240 How much thought they have, uh, put into it.

00:28:54.820 You want to share?

00:28:55.460 Sure.

00:28:55.820 You want to do that now?

00:28:56.560 Yeah.

00:28:56.800 Okay.

00:28:57.160 Let's do it now.

00:28:58.120 Okay.

00:28:58.500 Um, so this is a, uh, a, um, testimony in Congress from a high ranking official.

00:29:08.700 It sounds like you're just reading this now.

00:29:10.900 Like you weren't, well, you did tell me we were doing the opposite here.

00:29:15.160 So I just, to, to clear it, I am, I am not prepared because you told me we're doing the

00:29:19.180 exact opposite segment, which I was just setting up.

00:29:21.980 And then you've now reversed it to the thing we're supposed to do at the bottom of the hour.

00:29:25.140 So yes, you're not in the hall of fame.

00:29:26.740 And I am.

00:29:27.500 No, that's the exact opposite.

00:29:29.560 I can win.

00:29:30.020 What's happened.

00:29:30.600 The reason you're in the hall of fame is because I cover your mistakes.

00:29:34.380 That's why.

00:29:36.400 Well, anyway, I'm ready.

00:29:38.400 Okay.

00:29:38.900 So, uh, I don't know her name because I don't have the article up because we weren't supposed

00:29:41.820 to do it for half an hour, but I want to play this clip.

00:29:44.840 It's a guy from, it's a, one of the congressmen from Republican from Florida.

00:29:48.780 And I, and he is asking, what is this two state solution?

00:29:53.300 And, and, and give me some details about how you've come to the solution that you, the idea

00:29:57.780 that you want a two state solution.

00:29:59.520 So watch and learn.

00:30:01.800 Correct.

00:30:02.820 We support a two state solution.

00:30:04.540 Okay.

00:30:04.980 Have you looked at that objectively?

00:30:06.400 Uh, what do you mean?

00:30:08.680 Have you looked at it objectively?

00:30:09.820 Have you analyzed that objectively?

00:30:11.780 Um, this is, this is something that we do support.

00:30:14.280 Yeah.

00:30:14.540 Okay.

00:30:14.680 Stop.

00:30:15.080 Stop.

00:30:15.220 That's not an answer.

00:30:15.880 This, you know, you're in trouble already.

00:30:18.320 The boat has leaks in it.

00:30:19.920 Right.

00:30:20.360 She doesn't understand.

00:30:22.100 What do you mean?

00:30:22.960 Looked at it objectively.

00:30:24.440 Cause you might think like, okay, she might be thinking, oh, well, obviously I've looked

00:30:28.160 at it.

00:30:28.500 How else would I assess this?

00:30:29.660 Right.

00:30:29.840 Right.

00:30:30.060 But like, it does appear that she doesn't know what the word objectively means.

00:30:35.340 And it does appear because she immediately throws the we into it.

00:30:40.080 I mean, it's no, it's something we, that she really wasn't part of the process of figuring

00:30:44.920 this out.

00:30:45.620 Right.

00:30:46.100 Okay.

00:30:46.480 Go ahead.

00:30:47.680 Yeah.

00:30:48.320 That's not an answer.

00:30:49.280 Have you analyzed a second Palestinian state objectively?

00:30:53.420 Have you, have you analyzed it objectively?

00:30:56.260 Uh, I'm not sure exactly what you're asking.

00:30:59.280 Have I personally analyzed it?

00:31:00.820 You don't know what it means to objectively analyze something?

00:31:03.300 I know what it means to objectively analyze.

00:31:04.520 Okay.

00:31:04.860 So have you done that?

00:31:05.940 No, I have not.

00:31:06.960 You have.

00:31:07.780 If, if, if I understand your question.

00:31:10.600 You might not be.

00:31:11.640 Because I mean, you might think at the beginning, no, she's got to know what objectively means.

00:31:14.860 I don't think she knows what the word means.

00:31:17.860 I don't think so either.

00:31:18.680 Right.

00:31:19.040 I don't think so either.

00:31:20.120 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm starting to swim in your path.

00:31:22.700 Okay.

00:31:23.180 Okay.

00:31:23.500 I want to make sure I'm not, I'm, we're being fair here. 0.98

00:31:25.720 I mean, I, yeah, I, I wanted to say she's dumb as a box of rocks on the outset, but 0.91

00:31:32.820 I didn't because I want to be fair and rocks may have been too high on the ladder at this 0.96

00:31:38.820 point, but I'm still open.

00:31:40.600 Maybe she's going to pull it out.

00:31:41.720 Maybe she'll pull it out.

00:31:42.520 Here we go.

00:31:43.000 Okay.

00:31:43.100 You might not be because I can't believe that you would answer it in that way.

00:31:46.320 If you, so let me just start over.

00:31:48.260 You're here representing support for a Palestinian state, correct?

00:31:53.240 Yes.

00:31:53.600 Yes.

00:31:54.440 Have you analyzed that support objectively?

00:31:59.100 Yes.

00:31:59.980 But you just said no.

00:32:00.980 So I'm trying to understand what you're saying.

00:32:02.900 I thought I made it pretty simple, but you said no, but I'll grant you that now you said

00:32:06.940 yes, you have looked at it objectively.

00:32:08.560 So having looked at it objectively, which I would assume somebody in your position does,

00:32:13.620 who would you assess would lead that Palestinian state?

00:32:18.320 Pick a group.

00:32:19.120 You can name a group, but I'm saying Hamas, Palestinian Authority, Palestinian Islamic Jihad,

00:32:24.840 Fatah, some other group.

00:32:26.500 Who would lead it?

00:32:27.140 I think that has to be something that's considered.

00:32:30.440 I don't think I'm in a position to say that right now.

00:32:31.700 Who did you objectively assess would lead it in determining you have support for a Palestinian

00:32:36.600 state?

00:32:37.200 I don't want to, I don't think that I can answer that question.

00:32:40.060 I think this has, this is part of a larger discussion.

00:32:42.160 So you objectively assess that you support a Palestinian state in objectively assessing

00:32:47.400 that.

00:32:48.020 Who do you assess would lead that state?

00:32:51.500 What group that does not receive military support from, say, Iran, do you assess would

00:32:57.360 lead that, that state?

00:32:59.960 I understand your question.

00:33:02.000 Good.

00:33:02.320 But I think I would have to have a little, I would, I don't, I don't feel comfortable

00:33:06.020 saying that without having more understanding.

00:33:07.080 Have you not assessed what group would lead it?

00:33:10.720 Have you, or have you not assessed who would become the leader of that Palestinian state?

00:33:14.560 This is part of a larger discussion.

00:33:16.380 But have you, or have you not assessed that?

00:33:18.820 I, I have, this is a part of a larger discussion.

00:33:21.680 I don't think, I can't answer that question.

00:33:23.320 Okay, stop, stop, stop, stop.

00:33:25.600 Yeah, and you're there testifying in defense.

00:33:29.280 So this is the time to have the larger discussion.

00:33:33.980 I mean, he's asking the first question.

00:33:37.940 Have you objectively, you know, looked at all of this and, and come to this conclusion?

00:33:44.280 Well, I don't know what that means.

00:33:45.800 Well, that's, well, here's, okay, here's what it means.

00:33:48.960 When you look at it, you're for the two state solution.

00:33:51.760 Who do you assume is going to take power?

00:33:54.600 I mean, who do you think that is?

00:33:57.040 If you can't answer that, then you haven't even looked at the situation.

00:34:03.080 No, you don't even have the most basic understanding, which of course is what, what the situation we're in, right?

00:34:10.160 Like she doesn't have any idea what she's talking about here.

00:34:14.600 Now, Dave Rubin, who is the person I saw post this said, you know, we have an administration filled with, you know, senile people and diversity hires, right?

00:34:25.160 Like that's, and that's kind of what it seems like here. 0.99

00:34:27.660 I don't think you have to be just diverse to be morons. 1.00

00:34:31.520 No. 1.00

00:34:31.940 I mean, it's full of morons. 1.00

00:34:34.300 That's very true. 1.00

00:34:35.220 I don't care what color.

00:34:36.020 Well, they do.

00:34:36.840 But I think you could look at this.

00:34:38.020 That's your point.

00:34:38.540 They care what color.

00:34:39.640 They care.

00:34:40.120 I don't.

00:34:41.700 You might think, listen to this and think, okay, well, look, this person has no, how, you just bring up some random official and ask them these detailed questions.

00:34:51.400 They might not know.

00:34:52.500 Right.

00:34:52.860 What this is.

00:34:53.680 This is Bonnie Jenkins.

00:34:55.640 Bonnie Jenkins.

00:34:56.300 She is the U.S. Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security.

00:35:04.220 That's the person who doesn't know what the word objectively means.

00:35:08.980 Again, the U.S. Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security.

00:35:15.220 This is not a nobody.

00:35:16.880 This is somebody who has deep knowledge and effect on U.S. policy in the most crucial aspects of our world.

00:35:24.780 No, I don't.

00:35:25.380 I don't agree with that.

00:35:26.760 You said she has deep knowledge.

00:35:29.420 Supposed to have.

00:35:30.560 Supposed to have.

00:35:31.560 Yes.

00:35:31.960 Okay.

00:35:32.220 All right.

00:35:32.780 Go ahead.

00:35:33.000 Here's some more.

00:35:33.540 Can you answer whether you have or have not assessed who would lead the state?

00:35:36.400 I cannot answer a question, but I mean, particularly what I think, what it should be.

00:35:41.520 I mean, I think that's part of a logic.

00:35:42.280 You came here and said there should be a Palestinian state.

00:35:45.020 Have you or have you not assessed who would lead that?

00:35:49.780 Just yes or no.

00:35:50.720 Have you looked at who would lead it or have you not?

00:35:54.320 I support a two-state solution.

00:35:56.540 I know.

00:35:56.860 You said that numerous times.

00:35:58.300 Have you or have you not assessed who would become the leader of that state?

00:36:02.240 I don't think she really knows what assessed means.

00:36:07.300 A Palestinian authority somewhere else. 0.89

00:36:08.600 Stop again, because this is an interesting part of this.

00:36:12.520 She obviously hasn't assessed this, nor does she know what the word assessment means or objectively.

00:36:18.560 But that's a pretty low bar.

00:36:21.580 I mean, objectively, I'm being so generous here.

00:36:26.300 Or maybe you just are under the gun in the spotlight.

00:36:30.440 You're like, I'm not sure.

00:36:31.980 I don't want to answer that.

00:36:33.560 But assess.

00:36:35.480 Just really?

00:36:36.520 Have you thought about it fairly?

00:36:38.720 Yeah.

00:36:39.300 Have you thought about it?

00:36:40.420 When you're thinking about this, who did you think would be like the people that took over?

00:36:45.580 Because, you know, you need to think that through.

00:36:48.220 It's like, if the president steps down, you have to ask the very next question.

00:36:54.260 You know, I want the president to step down.

00:36:58.320 Okay.

00:36:59.640 Who replaces him?

00:37:01.300 Right.

00:37:01.320 Exactly.

00:37:01.720 That's what you're asking.

00:37:02.940 You have to have a, what's the next step?

00:37:04.540 Everybody automatically goes, yeah, you know, Kamala.

00:37:09.980 You know what I mean?

00:37:10.880 Right.

00:37:11.240 That's assessing who would take over.

00:37:14.280 The most basic thing you need to do if you want to do something like this is to have

00:37:20.460 a plan, right?

00:37:21.480 Have some idea.

00:37:22.500 At least have thought about the idea.

00:37:24.440 But wait a minute.

00:37:24.840 They didn't in Afghanistan.

00:37:26.360 No.

00:37:26.720 They didn't in, they don't with Russia. 0.92

00:37:28.640 Does that not explain all of these situations?

00:37:30.900 Yes.

00:37:30.980 Does this testimony not explain all these situations?

00:37:34.100 Yeah, it does.

00:37:34.240 So what I wanted to get to there, though, is Brian Mast could have done something like

00:37:39.620 who is going to lead this and stop, right?

00:37:43.660 Because she has, I would guess, absolutely no idea what any of the options are.

00:37:50.460 However, he goes a step further and gives her all of the main options that you might

00:37:56.240 consider in this situation.

00:37:57.880 A multiple choice question.

00:38:00.240 All she has to do is answer C.

00:38:03.760 Right.

00:38:03.920 Yeah.

00:38:04.400 That one.

00:38:05.340 The third one.

00:38:06.260 Third one.

00:38:06.960 Or whatever one you think it is.

00:38:09.000 Okay.

00:38:09.500 Here we go.

00:38:10.980 Have you assessed who it would be?

00:38:12.440 I don't feel comfortable.

00:38:14.960 I'm sorry.

00:38:15.460 I don't feel comfortable.

00:38:15.980 You don't care if you feel comfortable saying if you have assessed something.

00:38:20.120 No.

00:38:20.540 What I don't feel comfortable with is making a statement when I think it's part of a larger

00:38:23.800 discussion.

00:38:24.600 Don't even say who it is.

00:38:26.040 Just answer.

00:38:26.680 Have you assessed it?

00:38:29.120 Have you assessed who it would lead it?

00:38:30.600 Put it this way.

00:38:31.580 There will be an assessment of this question within the U.S. government.

00:38:37.320 Why do you support it?

00:38:38.280 If you haven't assessed it, I'm not in a position right now to say what that is because I think

00:38:43.340 this is part of a larger discussion.

00:38:45.200 Honestly, it's amazing.

00:38:46.520 I think it goes back to your original statement, which was probably the correct one, that you

00:38:50.800 have not objectively looked at this.

00:38:52.700 And you got it right when you said that.

00:38:54.360 I'm going to move on to another question.

00:38:55.740 Part of what the U.S. government wants to do.

00:38:57.620 I can't.

00:38:58.020 You're supposed to be the part of the U.S. government that does that.

00:39:01.080 She's not an intern.

00:39:02.160 I will not.

00:39:02.780 I have more time.

00:39:03.980 Sorry.

00:39:04.980 I have more questions, so I apologize.

00:39:07.100 So do you assess that a Palestinian state would be more likely to be designated as a major

00:39:14.920 non-NATO ally like Israel or Egypt, or would you assess that they would have to be labeled

00:39:20.280 a state sponsor of terror?

00:39:21.980 I can't answer that question.

00:39:23.420 Have you assessed that?

00:39:24.600 Sorry.

00:39:25.180 These are questions that I'm not in a position to answer.

00:39:28.040 I'm asking if you are in the position to answer if you have assessed whether that would

00:39:35.900 be the case.

00:39:36.940 You came here sitting before Congress saying you are here representing the idea that there

00:39:42.220 should be a Palestinian state.

00:39:44.300 You said you looked at it objectively, which you probably didn't.

00:39:47.160 And I'm asking if you assessed that.

00:39:50.600 So you can answer whether you assessed something or not.

00:39:53.160 What I can answer is this is part of a discussion that I don't think that I should be making

00:40:00.640 those decisions.

00:40:01.580 No, you shouldn't be in the role you're in.

00:40:03.260 We agree fully.

00:40:04.580 You should not be making it.

00:40:05.260 Whether you assess something is amazing.

00:40:07.080 Let me ask one more question.

00:40:08.700 Why do you think that we should make a country out of a people that just conducted a Jewish 1.00

00:40:13.880 genocide four months ago?

00:40:15.240 I'm not sure what you're asking here.

00:40:23.920 Can I have time to repeat the question for her, Mr. Chairman?

00:40:26.460 Yes.

00:40:26.860 Since she doesn't understand.

00:40:28.160 How can you not?

00:40:29.840 She's asking for a clarification.

00:40:31.520 Mr. Chairman, the time limit has occurred.

00:40:33.620 So the question, to repeat it since you said you don't understand it.

00:40:36.260 Mr. Chairman, I continue to object.

00:40:37.940 Why do you want to make a country of a people that just conducted a Jewish genocide? 0.90

00:40:44.700 I think I said it very clearly.

00:40:46.820 Please answer.

00:40:47.900 I'm not going to respond to a question about that.

00:40:51.460 Sorry.

00:40:52.560 I don't feel like I want to answer your question.

00:40:55.240 I really do.

00:40:55.840 I bet she does.

00:40:56.300 But I just don't feel like I'm in the position right now that I can answer those type of questions.

00:41:00.140 What kind of questions can you answer?

00:41:01.940 This is a question that's going to be just, this is a question for the U.S. government.

00:41:06.260 You're the U.S. government.

00:41:07.280 You are the U.S. Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security.

00:41:15.540 Oh my gosh.

00:41:16.180 I've never heard anything like that.

00:41:17.720 I know.

00:41:18.600 We have a horse on the highway.

00:41:25.000 I've never, this is not normal.

00:41:28.920 She's a horse on the highway. 0.99

00:41:31.540 And you know, you watch her and she seems nice.

00:41:35.120 She does.

00:41:35.560 She seems like.

00:41:36.380 When she said, I really do want to answer.

00:41:38.420 I really do want to answer.

00:41:38.440 And she did.

00:41:38.880 I think she does.

00:41:39.560 She just has absolutely no clue.

00:41:41.460 No clue.

00:41:41.940 No idea what they're talking about.

00:41:43.200 Na, na, na, na.

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