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Glenn Beck delivers a powerful message to the American public about the dangers of the welfare state and the deep state, and how to defeat them. Glenn Beck is a conservative commentator and radio host. He is a frequent contributor to the New York Times, CNN, NPR, and the Wall Street Journal, and is a regular guest on Fox News and CNN.
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I'm going to jam a lot of information in the next few minutes.
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So, see, I'm going to try to make it easy for you to follow.
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So, in the late 1960s, there was an article that was published in The Nation by two socialists named Richard Andrew Cloward and his wife, Frances Fox Piven.
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The LBJ new state, the welfare state, had just been passed.
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And so, the nation published this article from Cloward and Piven.
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It was a strategy using the Saul Alinsky rule, make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.
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So, Cloward and Piven decided, we can launch a campaign.
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They launched a campaign to overwhelm and collapse the system through government welfare programs.
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It involved, quote, a massive drive to recruit the poor onto the welfare rolls.
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Under this strategy, welfare was a Trojan horse to make the entire system overwhelm and collapse.
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The more people that got onto welfare, the state economy would buckle under the strain.
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The welfare state was now being ordered from the top down.
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And it could be led by, quote, demonstrations and cadres of aggressive organizers.
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I pointed this out and everybody said, oh, she was just a little old grandmother.
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But, however, once I stopped talking about her, in 2020, just before the election,
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Francis Fox Piven has become the intellectual guru of activist progressives.
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It said, quote, she's trying to work with, saying that working within the system is terribly misplaced.
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Ms. Piven argues, since it's rigged by the elites against the poor, what's needed is a sense of crisis that will force change.
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By the way, do you remember the National Voter Registration Act of 1993?
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It made it easier for voters to register, but difficult to determine validity.
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Examiners were under orders not to ask anyone for identification or proof of citizenship.
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And it started with the mailing of voter registrations, enabling anyone to register without personal contact with a registrar or an official.
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Any of this sound like it's going to lead up to an overwhelming of the system?
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Cloward and Piven, they were looking at just a couple of things.
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But this strategy now has been used all across the spectrum of American society.
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You feel a little overwhelmed with everything that's going on with your schools?
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Do you feel a little overwhelmed by what's being shoveled at you in the news?
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Do you feel a little overwhelmed when you go to pay your rent, pay your bills at the end of the month?
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Do you feel a little overwhelmed when you are looking at your job, your income, price of inflation?
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Do you feel a little overwhelmed with your debt?
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The U.S. national debt is now on pace to top $54 trillion in the next 10 years.
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Everyone, including the optimistic Congressional Budget Office, says it's not sustainable.
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But the government says it's not our fault, it's the grocery stores.
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Record number of Americans can no longer pay their rent.
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You remember the Cloward's Piven strategy, push it to the brink, watch it collapse.
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His administration has just issued new guidelines for Medicaid.
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Medicaid now includes cover for rent, utility, and food.
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I showed you record amounts of Americans can no longer pay for groceries and rent.
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Now Medicaid's going to take all of that on and increase the debt.
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Keep looking through this lens and re-examine what's happening at our border.
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They equal the size of a state now that is bigger than 38 of the 50 states.
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No, no, we don't even have to track them anymore.
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Now, I want you to know 59% of non-citizen households that we know of, this includes illegals,
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42% using Medicaid, which now includes rent and housing.
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Now, let me just give you some of the headlines in the news.
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Biden administration continues to ignore the Supreme Court ruling.
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They just wiped out another $1.2 billion in student loan.
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Denver schools facing unprecedented challenges with influx of migrant students.
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Interest on the national debt is now exceeding our entire defense budget.
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Interest on the money we've borrowed is now a bigger payment than our entire war machine.
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The showdown now between the Freedom Caucus and Republicans and Democrats give Johnson terms for a spending fight.
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Radicalized conservatives say they've got to rein in spending.
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Nobody's even willing to point out what I just said.
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California Legislative Analyst's Office Tuesday increased this year's projected state budget shortfall to $73 billion.
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Now, remember, they just released this a couple of months ago and said, oh, it's not so bad.
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Now they've doubled the debt for the year to $73 billion.
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Well, the stock market's going up, but we're just not collecting enough taxes on that.
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Money that hasn't yet been dispersed for wildfire resilience, flood control, and IT overhaul for the unemployment benefit system,
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which scammers pilfered tens of billions of dollars from it in the last four years.
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How about we study more transgender things for the schools?
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Meanwhile, while that's going on, California Democrats are introducing a bill to divert the surplus funds
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Why would we be talking about reparations at this point?
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Most Americans are now spending 11.3 of their income on food.
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The last time that happened was during the Gulf War.
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World Bank president said, when it comes to a country's over-indebtedness, the four most dangerous words are,
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It's not only a single major country with troubling debt.
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Each of the world's major economies has a serious debt problem caused by too many years of irresponsible budget policies
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and zero interest rates, and it could make it all the more difficult to avoid a recession
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All Western countries are in our position, many of them worse.
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Why have we given Ukraine more than it took in inflation-adjusted dollars,
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than it took to rebuild Europe under the Marshall Plan?
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Listen, this is why nothing will be done at the border.
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This is why nothing will be done about mail-in ballots.
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The excuse is, well, we don't have the results overnight like we used to,
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because, well, all of the mail-in ballots, and it's just a little overwhelmed.
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I hope that helps you understand your world a little bit better.
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This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.
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Over 50,000 AT&T outages were reported officially at 7 a.m. Eastern time this morning.
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Most issues were happening in Houston, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, and Atlanta.
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Verizon and T-Mobile looks like they're heading on the way back up, and most of it is fixed.
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But yesterday, there was a cyber attack on the phone systems, the cellular systems in Israel,
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and the Israelis are reporting that that was Iran that did that.
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But I think this is only a matter of time before we see stuff that will cause real problems.
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There's a guy, John Acuff, he wrote today, tweeted,
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Once you've read One Second After, cell phone outages carry a different weight.
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If you've never read One Second After, I highly, highly recommend it.
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It was written by William Forstian, and he tells a story about what happens one second after an EMP.
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And it, I mean, you will, it will open your eyes into how dependent we are.
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And at the time, I was like, oh my gosh, I never even thought of that.
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Oh man, yeah, that would no longer, you just don't think of it.
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And William's with us now to talk about the outage and attacks on our infrastructure.
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Good morning, Glenn, and thank you for the kind words about my book, Still Selling Strong.
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Our cell phones go down, and I think a lot of America, they go into detox immediately.
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But this is something, we don't know about today, but this is something that we know,
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our Department of Homeland Security is saying, they are waiting for cyber attacks.
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You know, Glenn, my college, Montreat College, has a strong cybersecurity training program.
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And I'll go in their lab and just sit there sometimes.
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Because if you saw the number of attacks, incoming attacks on our infrastructure, on our military, it's unrelenting.
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We don't even know if some of them have broken through, put sleepers into them, and are waiting to hit.
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So, tell me what you think is most likely, and how it will affect us, and how we should prepare for it.
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Well, first of all, if our cell phones really weren't dead, my daughter would have a nervous breakdown.
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That's unrelenting from Russia, any number of bad players.
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Cyber attack could include our water system, our electrical grid, or do you think it would be all of it, or some of it?
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It could be targeted to a specific or in a general offensive, like what I would call a first strike scenario, a wide spread.
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Suppose water all across the board was shut down for 48 hours, because that's all electronically controlled.
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What would happen to your town in one day if all water was turned off?
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I'm mainly focused more on our electrical infrastructure.
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That's the bad one, because if you lose electricity, that's the fundamental building block.
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How prepared, I hate asking people questions like this who know, how prepared are we?
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In my talk with Southeast FEMA last week, there are a lot of good people working in that system.
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And they say the number one thing is, if only Americans would be prepared, one month worth of emergency supplies on hand.
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That applies to everybody, whether you're living in an apartment in the city.
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These are basic things, and 90% of Americans just blithely go along.
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Don't you want to be prepared before rather than after?
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So if something like this happens, would we be, do you think we'd be in lockdown situation, or would you be able to travel, you know, to?
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If you lost your whole electrical grid, even just regionally, it would very quickly have to be a lockdown to avoid panic, try and keep control on population.
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Those people living in New York, remember when Sandy hit 10 years ago, it got a little hairy there, even though tens of thousands of tons of emergency supplies were being moved in.
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If it had gone for two weeks, it would have been very bad.
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My uncle used to work for, I don't know what department in the military, but he did some of the original studies on, you know, the after effects of war and crisis and everything else.
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And he said, generally speaking, you have 72 hours.
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Again, if you have a, everybody listening to you, if you have a month's worth of emergency supplies on hand, it doesn't cost that much.
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You can at least hunker down and be safe while the crazies are running up and down the street.
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So if we had, you know, there's, it's, it's strange.
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Um, you know, I, I thought EMP is the worst thing that could happen to us ever.
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Um, however, the more I see AI and everything else, it may, in the end, and I'm saying 50 years from now, if AI has gotten out of control and EMP might be our best friend, it will kill millions of people, but it would release a slavery.
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If God forbid, you know, I'm in science fiction world here, but God forbid AI went, went bad.
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I mean, it's, uh, the ones in zeros would have to be confused.
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Well, the EMP scenario, which is indeed the worst, according to two congressional studies, which I based my novels on, I've got four books out on the subject, 80 to 90% of the population would be dead a year later.
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Again, no food, no water, no medical supply, no command and control.
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You know, when you, uh, when I, when I read, this is years ago, one second after you, you know, you got to the 30 day mark and you started talking about what was coming, you know, in the next.
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And I thought, oh my gosh, I've never even thought of that.
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I mean, you're just, we're just not prepared even mentally to what would come.
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Uh, when I started working on the book, I went, I interviewed numerous different sources.
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I remember two in particular going to my chief of police, talking with him about, and I say, okay, the grid goes down.
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He actually picked up the phone and then he said, oh, blank, my phones don't work.
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The other interview was with the pharmacist at the end of one hour talking with her, she was in tears.
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And I darn near was in tears as well, because think about your pharmacy.
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You go in, you get a medication, they put it into a computer and a day later it comes back out or nursing homes.
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The vast majority of people in nursing homes will be dead within a week.
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And, uh, especially in today's world where we have so many people with technology that was not even around when you wrote the book, uh, or it was an infant stage.
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And now, you know, we know these attacks are happening all the time.
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Uh, we, we know there are many countries that would like to take us down and our Achilles heel, you know, is we don't live in caves far from it.
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And if, if you are going against a, uh, a cave dwelling nation, if they can knock out the electricity, we're dead.
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Well, you know, uh, and the EMP scenario, which I wrote about one second after, uh, I had North Korea as the main player, most likely we'll never really know.
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And my main character at the end said, what difference does that make for us?
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A third world country like North Korea, the leadership will just go 2000 feet underground.
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But I don't know if she's ever said what my wife has said.
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We've gone to a party one time and she knocks on the door and then she looks at me just before the doors open.
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And keep up the good work when you're getting the word out.
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One Second After is the name of the book and he's got follow-ups after that.
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And you'll think of things and it will help you on.
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It's why really, honestly, I'm like, I gotta get an x-ray machine.
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Nothing works if this all would happen unless it's, you know, protected.
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So, Stu, this is riveting and it might get too meaty, don't you think?
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It's an entertaining story for the whole family.
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And that's kind of what makes it easy to communicate.
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So, uh, the two state solution, which is Israel living side by side, uh, with, um, uh, with
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Hamas is, you know, not something that you would think would really work.
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Um, but no, the Biden administration has really thought this thing through.
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I kind of thought maybe they really didn't put much thought into this, um, but actually
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Um, so this is a, uh, a, um, testimony in Congress from a high ranking official.
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Like you weren't, well, you did tell me we were doing the opposite here.
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So I just, to, to clear it, I am, I am not prepared because you told me we're doing the
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exact opposite segment, which I was just setting up.
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And then you've now reversed it to the thing we're supposed to do at the bottom of the hour.
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The reason you're in the hall of fame is because I cover your mistakes.
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So, uh, I don't know her name because I don't have the article up because we weren't supposed
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to do it for half an hour, but I want to play this clip.
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It's a guy from, it's a, one of the congressmen from Republican from Florida.
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And I, and he is asking, what is this two state solution?
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And, and, and give me some details about how you've come to the solution that you, the idea
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Um, this is, this is something that we do support.
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Cause you might think like, okay, she might be thinking, oh, well, obviously I've looked
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But like, it does appear that she doesn't know what the word objectively means.
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And it does appear because she immediately throws the we into it.
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I mean, it's no, it's something we, that she really wasn't part of the process of figuring
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Have you analyzed a second Palestinian state objectively?
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You don't know what it means to objectively analyze something?
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Because I mean, you might think at the beginning, no, she's got to know what objectively means.
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I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm starting to swim in your path.
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I want to make sure I'm not, I'm, we're being fair here.
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I mean, I, yeah, I, I wanted to say she's dumb as a box of rocks on the outset, but
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I didn't because I want to be fair and rocks may have been too high on the ladder at this
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You might not be because I can't believe that you would answer it in that way.
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You're here representing support for a Palestinian state, correct?
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So I'm trying to understand what you're saying.
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I thought I made it pretty simple, but you said no, but I'll grant you that now you said
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So having looked at it objectively, which I would assume somebody in your position does,
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who would you assess would lead that Palestinian state?
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You can name a group, but I'm saying Hamas, Palestinian Authority, Palestinian Islamic Jihad,
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I think that has to be something that's considered.
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I don't think I'm in a position to say that right now.
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Who did you objectively assess would lead it in determining you have support for a Palestinian
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I don't want to, I don't think that I can answer that question.
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I think this has, this is part of a larger discussion.
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So you objectively assess that you support a Palestinian state in objectively assessing
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What group that does not receive military support from, say, Iran, do you assess would
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But I think I would have to have a little, I would, I don't, I don't feel comfortable
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Have you not assessed what group would lead it?
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Have you, or have you not assessed who would become the leader of that Palestinian state?
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I, I have, this is a part of a larger discussion.
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So this is the time to have the larger discussion.
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Have you objectively, you know, looked at all of this and, and come to this conclusion?
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Well, that's, well, here's, okay, here's what it means.
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When you look at it, you're for the two state solution.
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If you can't answer that, then you haven't even looked at the situation.
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No, you don't even have the most basic understanding, which of course is what, what the situation we're in, right?
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Like she doesn't have any idea what she's talking about here.
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Now, Dave Rubin, who is the person I saw post this said, you know, we have an administration filled with, you know, senile people and diversity hires, right?
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Like that's, and that's kind of what it seems like here.
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I don't think you have to be just diverse to be morons.
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You might think, listen to this and think, okay, well, look, this person has no, how, you just bring up some random official and ask them these detailed questions.
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She is the U.S. Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security.
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That's the person who doesn't know what the word objectively means.
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Again, the U.S. Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security.
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This is somebody who has deep knowledge and effect on U.S. policy in the most crucial aspects of our world.
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Can you answer whether you have or have not assessed who would lead the state?
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I cannot answer a question, but I mean, particularly what I think, what it should be.
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You came here and said there should be a Palestinian state.
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Have you or have you not assessed who would lead that?
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Have you looked at who would lead it or have you not?
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Have you or have you not assessed who would become the leader of that state?
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I don't think she really knows what assessed means.
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Stop again, because this is an interesting part of this.
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She obviously hasn't assessed this, nor does she know what the word assessment means or objectively.
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I mean, objectively, I'm being so generous here.
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Or maybe you just are under the gun in the spotlight.
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When you're thinking about this, who did you think would be like the people that took over?
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Because, you know, you need to think that through.
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It's like, if the president steps down, you have to ask the very next question.
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Everybody automatically goes, yeah, you know, Kamala.
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The most basic thing you need to do if you want to do something like this is to have
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Does this testimony not explain all these situations?
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So what I wanted to get to there, though, is Brian Mast could have done something like
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Because she has, I would guess, absolutely no idea what any of the options are.
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However, he goes a step further and gives her all of the main options that you might
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You don't care if you feel comfortable saying if you have assessed something.
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What I don't feel comfortable with is making a statement when I think it's part of a larger
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There will be an assessment of this question within the U.S. government.
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If you haven't assessed it, I'm not in a position right now to say what that is because I think
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I think it goes back to your original statement, which was probably the correct one, that you
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You're supposed to be the part of the U.S. government that does that.
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So do you assess that a Palestinian state would be more likely to be designated as a major
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non-NATO ally like Israel or Egypt, or would you assess that they would have to be labeled
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These are questions that I'm not in a position to answer.
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I'm asking if you are in the position to answer if you have assessed whether that would
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You came here sitting before Congress saying you are here representing the idea that there
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You said you looked at it objectively, which you probably didn't.
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So you can answer whether you assessed something or not.
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What I can answer is this is part of a discussion that I don't think that I should be making
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Why do you think that we should make a country out of a people that just conducted a Jewish
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Can I have time to repeat the question for her, Mr. Chairman?
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So the question, to repeat it since you said you don't understand it.
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Why do you want to make a country of a people that just conducted a Jewish genocide?
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I'm not going to respond to a question about that.
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I don't feel like I want to answer your question.
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But I just don't feel like I'm in the position right now that I can answer those type of questions.
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This is a question that's going to be just, this is a question for the U.S. government.
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You are the U.S. Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security.
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And you know, you watch her and she seems nice.