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In this episode of the Glenbeck Program, we talk about the election, pickleball, and the Harvard plagiarism scandal. We also talk about a company that does it right, a company made here in the US, and how corrupt our universities are.
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you know i was having a perfectly good time a perfectly good time today really yes i was
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and then you had to bring up zelinski biden in ukraine i know you were like calm and like
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collected and then i brought that up and you were just screaming it was a good show today it was a
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good show no no real well i can't say that i mean mark levin i was gonna say no real panic on
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anything but mark levin spent about an hour with me talking about you know trump going to jail and
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what that will mean uh so we we had that going for us and don't want to miss that hour um also
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the very beginning of the podcast um i did you know stew said something yesterday to me in the
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last half hour of the show he was like so how do you see this working out well with the election
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and i couldn't think of any so i went back home yesterday and i'm like okay let me try to really
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figure this out how does this and well okay i'm i'm not going to count the god thing which is
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really the only answer uh but what i came up with was something i actually believe
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is going to happen and what the next move in is and what summer uh looks like in the united states
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you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program
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welcome to the glenbeck program there's a couple of things going on with uh with a woman that runs
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harvard and one of them is hey i have to have a room with with color crayons and comic books so you can
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read a comic book and then you know color a happy tree because you feel like you're being you know
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uh you have microaggressions all around you stopping free speech everywhere unless you're calling for
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you know the death of jews then i guess hey well we know free speech it's crazy but there's something
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else that has now been brought brought up that i think people knew about uh in in the harvard world
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but didn't say anything and that is the fact that its president claudine gay uh broke harvard's own
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code of conduct on plagiarism and it's a pretty significant amount of plagiarism uh including
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her doctoral dissertation was plagiarized parts of it were wholly plagiarized and she never credited
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anybody now here's why this matters you plagiarize something i don't really care you plagiarize
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something in a book and claim it's yours okay i care because that's stealing from somebody else
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you plagiarize in a university well you're setting the standards and trying to hold those standards
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of academic excellence and honesty and if the person who's at the top is known to have plagiarized
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how do you tell the students we're going to kick you out this has nothing to do with her testimony
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but it has everything to do with how corrupt our uh our universities are how morally corrupt
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they are we have uh uh aaron sabariam uh sabariam uh on with us now he wrote a great uh piece for
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the washington free beacon and we wanted to talk to him about this you went to yale uh and you were
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the editor of the yale daily news so you know something about ivy league and uh and plagiarism not
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not really celebrated is it uh no glenn it is not uh it is not celebrated and in fact uh i would say
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that generally at all of these schools it's standard to get a lecture saying it doesn't matter how small
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it doesn't matter if it's intention if it's unintentional uh even if you do it with the
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best intentions uh it's still a serious problem you should double check your work to make sure
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absolutely nothing is plagiarized that is what harvard tells its students in a very long document
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that outlines its policies very clearly it no fewer than five times indicates that intent is irrelevant
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if you take any uh language or even just ideas or content from someone else and don't uh cite them
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it's plagiarism um and according to the letter of the harvard plagiarism policies
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they clearly violated them on at least some occasions
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yeah and like significant i mean you you and your article go through it we don't have to go
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through it here but it's significant why does this matter
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well look you know if people do make mistakes and if this were if if this was what we found out of a
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corpus of say 100 or 200 peer-reviewed papers one of which had won a noble prize you might think okay
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it's a few paragraphs here or there but the overall contents original is just such a big deal
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i i think it's worth emphasizing that she has published in total uh 11 peer-reviewed articles
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11 in the past uh two decades that is a really really small number um for any academic i think
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at a prestigious university but especially for the academic that the university chooses to elevate
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to uh his highest position so you're not talking about uh a few instances of maybe careless
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citations or plagiarism out of 100 papers you're talking about it out of 11 papers right so we found
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uh so there have been you know 11 peer-reviewed articles we've seen two of them we found examples
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of plagiarism then in her dissertation then in another thing she wrote that was in a non-peer-reviewed
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journal so this starts to amount to a pretty substantial percentage of her academic output
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uh that contains at least some plagiarism material um so as a percentage thing i think that's actually
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the best way to look at it it's it's not just a couple mistakes here or there it seems to be a
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pattern and it's a pattern that uh it's fairly consistent throughout uh two decades of relatively
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miser uh scholarly output miser scholarly output so this is not anything new i mean that it's my
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understanding that this has kind of been known and kicked around for a while but just kept quiet
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it didn't matter is that true well yeah it appears to be true because just last night uh the new york
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post reported that they had many of these examples uh and confronted uh harvard with them all the way
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back in october and rap and harvard claimed oh we addressed it promptly as soon as it was brought
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to our attention we initiated a review of gay's work and dr gay requested corrections
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proactively well what what the harvard corporation didn't mention is that apparently
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they uh intimidated may have even threatened to sue uh the new york post for defamation
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uh after the new york post reached out for comment um so harvard apparently took this seriously enough
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that they thought it was worth hiring the best defamation law firm in the country claire lock
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uh god knows how much they were paying them uh to send a 15 page uh intimidation letter to journalists
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who are coming to them for the examples of plagiarism uh so clearly they thought that it was worth uh
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pulling out the big bucks uh shelling out a lot of money to shut this down and that was all the
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way back in october so why would they do this to protect i mean why
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i think that claudine yay is uh emblematic of of the of the kind of dei ideology uh that is that is
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regnant at harvard um you know some people have focused on her race and gender and i'm sure
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you know they don't want the office to firing harvard's first black president yeah of course
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um but i actually think it's more than that it's that she she both kind of represents the ideology
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they already subscribe to and they don't want the ideology discredited and also um this i think
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hasn't gotten as much attention she was a very shrewd political operator before she became president
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she was sort of at the center of a lot of cancellations right she helped engineer the
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bureaucratic demonstration of both um roland fryer who's this really uh famous black economist at
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harvard and she helped also strip um uh let's say ronald sullivan uh harvard law professor from an
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administrative post after sullivan uh made the decision to serve on harvey weinstein's defense team
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um you can't defend the unpopular that's that's that's no longer allowed uh so she you know i think
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kind of had a had a pattern of rewarding friends and punishing enemies um and seems to have kind of
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maneuvered the administration and bureaucratic apparatus of harvard around her uh very shrewdly that's
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part of how she became uh president uh and i think that that background may be part of why they're so
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unwilling to let her go the whole kind of institution has in some sense been mobilized around her and
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kind of put all the pieces in place um does it play any role that her first cousin is roxanne gay
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who is a feminist feminist author and new york times writer who's uh absolutely absolutely a terrible
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human being uh you know honestly i i don't know if that really i think they would do this with with
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just about anyone in her position anyone in her position anyone with her ideology um i mean and and i
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would say too right they've obviously been under pressure from donors um but they're also under pressure
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from their from their own uh faculty and students and you know you mentioned uh the the testimony she
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gave where she couldn't forthrightly uh condemn calls for the genocide of jews you know i i think part of
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the issue is that she couldn't really go up there and say you know yeah we support free speech in all
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cases and in fact yes even if you want to call for the genocide of insert other group we will protect
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that because we're so principled a because it wouldn't be true and we all know it's not true but b because
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if she had said that you know student activists would have come try and tried to burn her house
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down right so they really she's to be fair to her she is kind of in a rock and a hard place no matter
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what she does or what harvard does some constituency is going to throw a fit well i have to tell you um
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you know i don't want to see harm come to anybody but you know gee if if you get nailed by your own
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policies uh and uh your life is tough because you shoveled this poison and now that poison is coming
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back to haunt you i you know i have a hard time again with nobody being hurt i have a really hard
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time you know giving any sympathy to her at all um thank you so much one one last question is this an
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issue outside of her should this be an issue outside of her testimony in other words is this
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just being brought up because there's a mob on the other side that is saying hey she should be fired
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for this is this a real issue beyond the anti-semitism stuff um obviously the anti-semitism stuff
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increased scrutiny on her i mean it'd be silly to deny that but i think it would still be an issue
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um you know this the the plagiarism isn't quite as severe as say it's not like data fraud right
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there's a guy at stanford actually former stanford president stepped down amid allegations of data
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fraud and that was really serious right um on its own terms i think this is would be a scandal
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on its own the anti-semitism stuff obviously amplifies it makes it worse but again i think
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the real context here is the the meager scholarly record right if again i i really don't think people
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would care i wouldn't care all that much right we had found this and it was in the context of like
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200 brilliant peer-reviewed papers but that's not the context and i think that what it underscores is
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that this woman clearly was not chosen um for her scholarly merit uh if that was the
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criterion they would have chose they had a lot of other candidates at harvard would have would
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have been better thank you so much i appreciate appreciate all your work and all your writing
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god bless this is the best of the glenbeck program mr mark levin how are you my friend
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mr glenbeck let me look i'm good thank you good good uh i'm pretty good you know i'm i'm a little
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concerned about you know uh 2024 uh can't come up with a scenario where it ends well but maybe you
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can it's such a mess i mean you got people talking third party i think if if nikki haley who i really
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oppose i mean i call her george bush in a dress and she pretty much is and with their foreign policy
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it is she is well their foreign policy actually domestic policy as soon as she wanted to invite
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the palestinians in gaza into our country but she lost her mind yeah that's uh she uh she gave land
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to communist china in south carolina and now she pretends she's a hardliner she's never been a leader on
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any of the issues that matter to us whether it's abortion whether it's uh the border uh whether it's tax
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cuts and i looked at these allegations by de santis and he's right go on to google him look at him
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she refused to sign a bill that said men use men's rooms and ladies use ladies rooms now when he came
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to the woke war she sided with disney i'm going what's going on here this woman is not going to
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be able to fight the marxist revolution that is surrounding us and swirling around us today
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which is why carl rove and romney and this guy fink at blackstone or black rock whatever the hell
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they call themselves all these people including liberal democrat billionaires who are going to
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vote for biden are backing her so that so she goes third party you know the rhinos are the fifth column
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that the fifth column in our party and frankly the fifth column in this country along with the media
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the democrats once they get their fighting out of the way go back by and they would back a kumquat
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for president no i know they wouldn't it means that they but our guys they'll splinter the base is
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always supposed to march behind whatever the republican establishment does but this goes to your point
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doesn't it which is yeah it's concerning uh the way you feel about nikki haley would you fall in line
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behind her i don't have to she's going to fall before i have to fall no i know but if she were
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the candidate i've had enough okay all right me too me too however if it is by if it's biden or
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i think michelle obama i'd vote for a kumquat yeah and i don't think it'll be michelle obama
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by the way you haven't heard a word from her have you no we haven't but i just i it's the only
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scenario that works out i mean let's mention yeah that the the uh the uh uh you know the super
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delegates they just forget the vote they just say you know what he's too ill or whatever he's too frail
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you know the democrats want another choice let's just we nominate michelle obama
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believe it or not if that happens i think they're going to turn to hillary but it doesn't matter what
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we think yeah i know problem is what's happening right now is this grotesque effort to try and put
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donald trump in prison so you read you read this got this this a-hole who filed this with the supreme
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court he's always wanting to cut the corners he doesn't get attorney-client privilege so ruled an
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obama judge all these privileges presidential privilege executive privilege attorney-client
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privilege all denied donald trump he doesn't want to go through the normal appellate process because
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he can't get his trial going before the election you know it takes years to have a full-blown
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criminal trial particularly when you're raising you're creating constitutional issues of first
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impression so he brings us to this point now he's demanding that the supreme court hear his
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his motion against trump as soon as possible and these dimwits they say okay we'll consider your
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argument trump's lawyers you have one week to respond because what you had a case in pennsylvania
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during the course of this election not about ballots not about voting machines a pure constitutional
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question a legitimate question about who gets to decide and write election laws in the state
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the governor the board of elections or the legislature like the constitution says in black
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and white they wouldn't even take up that case you have other cases that people are waiting for in
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front of the supreme court not to get too much in the weeds these enron case they use the obstruction
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and the enron case against these jace january sixers which doesn't apply it doesn't even meet the
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elements so they're on appeal all the way to the supreme court and the same day the court says okay
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we want to hear these arguments on the motion from uh jack the ripper smith there the court says
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we're going to put on this for now well maybe we'll consider it later in the year or next year you've got
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people sitting in jail so this is really amazing you have a case this judge trunkin i had a great
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lawyer on my program shown is his name david shown and he said mark i've been spending three years
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waiting for a decision from this judge who wants to have a trial on trump in a five-month period it's
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all a setup and so this guy jack smith the courts are bending over backwards to accommodate this guy he
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wins every single motion trump loses every single motion in front of this radical obama judge
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the appellate court which is overwhelmingly democrat because when carrie reid was the senate leader
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and obama was president they added seats to the dc circuit and filled it with democrats
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this recent panel had two obama appointees and one biden appointee the judge that trump's dealing with now
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is an obama appointee the judge trump was dealing with before that was another obama appointee
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and now we go to the supreme court and i'll tell you glenn john roberts is a huge problem john roberts
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is like this guy michael ludig they hate trump the republicans but you know they're proper republicans
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they don't like the tweeting you know they don't like the language oh my goodness all this stuff's going
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on here it's just so unseemly it's so improper you know they're just used to losing the country
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very properly you know yeah uh but what's happening here in my view is we have a potent criminal justice
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system we have judges that wear black robes you go into these these mahogany paneled courtrooms you've
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got a prosecutor standing over there he gets his desk the defense gets their desk eventually you have a
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trial the jury sits over there it all looks so proper it all looks so constitutional and it's all
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bull crap because all these movements and actions before this trial the motions filings the decisions
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on the motion filings and everything they will determine the outcome of this election and just
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finally i know i'm rambling a bit but i tend to do that one of the things that troubles me a lot
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is this yeah this guy charges trump with a clan act violation with two enron violations and a federal
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contractor violation these four statutes so it was bogus it is bogus but his arguments which had been
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allowed by this judge his paper filings are all about insurrection and seditious conspiracy in other
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words and this is a grotesque violation of uh of uh prosecutorial ethics grotesque he is making the case
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without having proved the elements of the crimes that he's basically arguing for that donald trump knew
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or had to know that what he was saying what he was doing what he was texting what he was reading prove
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that he wanted a violent event to occur that day so why didn't you charge him with that he's not
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charged with violence about anything he charged with the clan act and obstruction and all the rest of
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these things and the judge rules oh that's okay what's okay so he's charged with four phony charges
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but this guy's arguing something completely different and other serious litigators or former federal
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prosecutors or whatever are saying this is not the way this is supposed to be done and it's all
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happening the supreme court should not take this case up it shut there's no emergency reason why this
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case has by the way if you read this motion this clown keeps talking about the public interest that
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people have a right to know what does he know about the public interest he sits hold up he's in a room
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with with with 10 other reprobates they're making all these decisions on their own and then they speak for
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the public well they sure as hell don't speak for 80 million people and so the judiciary i would argue
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is doing severe damage to this country allowing incredible interference in this election process
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well and when it's all said and done they'll never recover i will tell you that john roberts is the kind
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of guy who thinks we should rule on this and let this go forward otherwise we'll be blamed for it
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and they'll say oh it's the judicial activism of the supreme court so we're protecting the supreme court
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by letting this small injustice as they would think just let this pass let them do it and they hash it out
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and then our hands are clean it's a it's an act of pontius pilot quite honestly um 100 percent yeah um
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i call him hollywood john he's very worried about what's said about him and thought about him his wife
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and thomas threedman over there the new york times their best friends they get caught up in
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these social circles which always go the way of the left and i don't trust this guy i don't even
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trust kavanaugh and barrett is a complete disappointment because she's right under roberts's
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wing you really have three tremendous constitutionalists and you've got a couple of rhinos and then you've got
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the hardcore left democrats i'm worried about this so alan dershowitz has said just based on the speed
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of this trial he's like there's no there's no way donald trump could even prepare for a a defense
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and he said we are at a banana republic if that isn't stopped he's like there's there's no way
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that there should that this trial should go forward next year only because of the amount
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and volume of documents that have to be processed uh he said it's it's criminal if they speed this
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trial up or they let it go at this rate do you agree with that i mean you denied him a time privilege
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you did it in a secret proceeding that's a violation of the fifth amendment and the phony claim of a crime
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fraud exception so his lead lawyer in the january 6th case had to testify in front of the grand jury
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and he had to provide his notes that he had taken with donald trump and we've never seen anything
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like this we don't know what they're talking about it's all done in secret that happens i'm told other
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things happen in front of that grand jury that were absolutely unacceptable by some of the lawyers
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working on this case so what he's talking about there's what's there's a violation of due process
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fifth amendment and the sixth amendment which is the right to effective counsel you can't have
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effective counsel when they're drowning in documents and witnesses and everything else and the judge uh
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for no reason he said that there is there there is no way that he he said if that uh lawyer
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stands in front of that judge and he says no you have to proceed and they aren't ready because they
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there's no way possible he said he should uh quit immediately and say i'm sorry i'm not going to
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abide and if that means you're going to hold me in contempt hold me in contempt but this is a travesty
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of justice well i guess that's right i mean every lawyer has to make their own decision on how to proceed
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um so i don't know if i do that or not i really hadn't thought about it that said he's right on the
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substance of the issue 100 right now the problem with all this is this lower court judge and this
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prosecutor all know that they're setting donald trump up for a conviction so when he runs for office
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as president in the general election the media and everyone else will keep calling him a convicted felon
00:28:11.980
a convicted felon so the people who are kind of on the edge kind of leaning toward trump because they
00:28:17.360
can't stand biden we know who these people are we live to people like this right in our communities
00:28:22.720
in our neighborhoods we meet them he might lose them and that's the goal right and you can see
00:28:28.620
the hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign funding that's going to be spent by the democrats
00:28:32.820
in the biden campaign or in your case michelle obama campaign talking about how trump is a convicted
00:28:39.240
felon and then i want to pardon himself so we won't be talking about inflation and the border so all of
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the best legal minds that i know all say that no matter what the evidence in washington dc he's going
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to be convicted uh do you believe that i'd share that yeah okay what i mean go ahead and i'll tell you
00:29:06.060
why i mean um if you're not really able to present your case if you're not really able to present to
00:29:12.380
study the evidence right and in addition to that to bring forward counter evidence exculpatory
00:29:18.680
information because you can't get your head around it because of the time frame if you're in a city
00:29:23.700
that goes 94 for biden and the jury's picked by that out of that population if you have an obama judge
00:29:30.560
that is ruling in every every single instance for the government uh when you have a prosecutor who is
00:29:37.680
utterly and completely unethical who is using uh tactics uh that in most courtrooms would be rejected
00:29:46.400
you're setting up a scenario where nobody nobody could survive because you're targeting this defendant
00:29:58.340
the charges are preposterous and by the time you can actually get to an appellate court
00:30:05.340
it's over and so that makes what jack smith is doing is so horrific because he's trying to jump
00:30:15.040
the appellate court on a constitutional issue to get to the supreme court and the court is at least
00:30:21.180
entertaining the idea whereas the defendant donald trump can't get his constitutional issues up there
00:30:29.340
that fast because the supreme court has decided over and over and over again now you go through
00:30:35.320
the trial you go through the appellate court you need to fine-tune the constitutional issues then
00:30:40.500
we might take a look at it so the whole system and really as you well know and your listeners well
00:30:47.800
know you can have the best constitution on the face of the earth the best judicial system on paper but
00:30:53.780
if you don't have people of virtue particularly judges uh none of it works it doesn't matter what's
00:31:00.440
on paper there is no due process there is no right to counsel and effectively that's what's going on
00:31:04.960
here so the likelihood is very high now here's the problem if the court does take up this case
00:31:12.560
for this argument and rules against jack smith that is that donald trump does have immunity from actions he
00:31:22.720
took while president after he leaves the presidency then the government really doesn't have a case
00:31:29.720
they're in huge trouble and this case will go on long way that no way that john roberts allows that to
00:31:37.000
happen no way that's my fear you're listening to the best of glenn back check out the full show podcast
00:31:44.400
to listen to the rest of this interview all right marlo oaks welcome to the program sir thank you good
00:31:53.080
to be here glenn thank you very much and thank you for alerting me to this this is horrifying this is a
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new sec proposal to allow for a creation of a new type of company tell us about it yeah so basically a
00:32:09.880
natural asset company and really the the heart of the problem is that it will permanently stop
00:32:14.780
economically essential activities like grazing mineral extraction modern agriculture uh severe it
00:32:21.780
can severely curtail recreational access we're basically talking about the destruction of rural
00:32:28.340
america and really it's an effort to take control of america's natural resources this could be done
00:32:34.600
uh through these natural asset companies with from hostile nations that put money into these um and
00:32:41.700
we're essentially placing a value on natural processes things like uh you know the the uh biological
00:32:49.660
systems that provide clean air water uh food things like that um putting an economic value on those
00:32:57.340
it's really an arbitrary value this is a massive transfer of wealth this is just another
00:33:03.620
scam this is another uh financial scam to make people a lot of money but this one you know unlike the
00:33:14.880
scams that cost us you know almost our freedom last time in 2008 this one actually if it goes through
00:33:23.460
if you buy let's say this stock in this in this company um you then can uh you would be
00:33:33.200
uh giving the money to buy up the rights of all the minerals and even like the air and you can't you
00:33:42.940
can't develop it because it's a forest and there's lots of there's lots of clean air that's being
00:33:48.120
generated right that's exactly right and so basically the new york stock exchange went to the securities
00:33:55.700
exchange commission and said we need a rule that will allow us to list companies whose purpose isn't to
00:34:00.960
make money is to provide ecological services and what are those ecological services well it is
00:34:06.940
it is the the biological systems that are that are creating clean air so think of a forest right
00:34:13.300
um taking carbon out of the air and converting it into oxygen what is that worth uh what are underground
00:34:20.640
aquifers worth you know the water that seeps through the ground and and creates clean water
00:34:26.220
um it's those kinds of what we think of god-given processes that are now going to be monetized in
00:34:34.980
some way and and people who own um these companies who put money into these companies
00:34:42.100
they stand to benefit from that at the expense of our uh country so now are they let's say let's say
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i'm a landowner and i have farmland and i have forest um do i participate in this do i have to say yes
00:34:58.020
my everything is up for sale or is this just kind of like air rights in new york where you're just
00:35:05.860
buying the rights of air well there is there's you know as we know from esg the the climate crisis is
00:35:15.020
really driving the esg environmental social governance discussion it's the same thing here
00:35:19.980
and and there is a push uh really an attack on energy and agriculture right and so when we look
00:35:28.340
at agriculture we're seeing the squeezing of the of ranchers and and farms and and these natural
00:35:35.500
asset companies ban what's called industrial agriculture which is essentially all agriculture that
00:35:41.700
happens around the globe because it that that's what produces the yields that are needed to feed the
00:35:47.200
the world population and so if you ban industrial agriculture you're talking about something that
00:35:53.240
happened in sri lanka which was the the reduction of of rice harvest 40 to 50 percent leading to an 80
00:36:00.460
percent increase in in prices there it led to uh civil unrest uh unbelievably uh there and and that's what
00:36:09.160
we're talking about so let me have a very western conversation with you um most people in the east
00:36:14.260
they don't understand blm land um and that is uh not black lives matter uh that is bureau of land
00:36:22.180
management they own in the west a great portion of uh the uh the land that farmers use to graze their
00:36:31.560
cattle on because it's just open land uh and you pay a fee and you can graze your cattle a cattle on
00:36:38.660
that land and the government's supposed to take care of it this would this company this new uh natural
00:36:45.760
asset company would then not take control of the land right it would just say no grazing cattle on
00:36:53.920
that land because we need it pure for the carbon offset or whatever um and so it would grab that but
00:37:00.760
could it grab could it grab my land if i'm a farmer well it it could be inside of a designated
00:37:10.600
area so right now in montana there are five million acres are um they're trying the the federal government
00:37:17.660
i've forgotten which agency it is designated five five million acres um they're trying to create a
00:37:24.360
national monument out of this and there's private land within within that and so your land could be
00:37:29.880
inside of a designated area and and the government wouldn't necessarily uh you know buy your land
00:37:37.460
but you're you're going to end up with fewer options yeah you won't have any roads maintained
00:37:42.520
you you won't be able to expand or do it you might be able to be grandfathered into what you're doing
00:37:48.000
right now but nothing else right and there's the infrastructure will be left alone yeah that that's
00:37:55.260
right and and so even in the east so in the east you have um you have conservation easements and so
00:38:02.560
um landowners in the east have have uh placed their lands in conservation easements which effectively
00:38:10.220
means that that no development can happen and they do this to uh get a tax benefit but over time because
00:38:18.480
it's in perpetuity that land that the um use of the land when you entered into a conservation easement cannot change
00:38:27.380
uh but the subjective nature of uh creating a sustainable um culture agricultural or a sustainable land
00:38:36.860
going forward uh means that that land can be placed in a natural asset company these conservation easements can
00:38:46.480
go into a natural asset company and without the landowner's consent essentially and so this this
00:38:52.180
really is affects people in the east and the west um it's just under different um uh well it
00:38:59.960
designation yeah and it will affect all of us because our food prices will go through the roof
00:39:05.340
uh and good yeah and good luck going to a national park let me ask you this how is the new york stock
00:39:12.760
exchange pushing for this because what the what this this natural asset company uh this this new this whole new
00:39:21.840
category it is non-economic the the land that they would buy as a private entity must support only
00:39:31.480
replenishable activities so that means that they can only replenish the land they can't have any economic
00:39:39.680
activity on it um it's assigned an arbitrary value and then it's traded on that but this is a there's
00:39:47.680
no profit you cannot make profit on this so who would be buying the stock for this because you're not
00:39:55.020
going to make money well you're not going to make money through traditional economic activity but if
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if um companies have to be net zero uh let's say you're emitting a lot of carbon then you can you
00:40:10.440
will have a an incentive to buy into natural asset companies that will prevent provide potentially
00:40:15.880
carbon offsets through these natural processes that's one way to drive artificial value so i am putting a lot
00:40:22.360
of pollution up in the air but if i buy part of yellowstone or part of you know montana that uh can no
00:40:31.520
longer be developed then i can use that and say yeah but i've got all these trees producing all this
00:40:37.580
fresh air exactly this is so evil this is so incredibly evil yeah we've thought of you know
00:40:48.480
we've thought of natural processes as sort of god-given right and and and you and i are walking carbon
00:40:55.280
emitters i mean when we when we breathe out we're emitting four percent carbon and so what happens when
00:41:01.060
each of us individually have a carbon footprint that we have to offset you know the wealthy can
00:41:05.640
easily do it they just go out and buy you know uh access to nacks but uh it's the poorest among us
00:41:11.940
suddenly are they going to have to pay for their uh carbon emission and then and then uh you know that
00:41:18.540
that is going to incentivize uh car reduction you know getting people out of cars and and walking and
00:41:25.000
bicycles and things like that i mean you can see where this goes yeah most importantly this gives a
00:41:29.860
public private partnership a chance to enrich all of the very wealthy anyway and it is it it is like
00:41:38.920
uh what was it that almost brought us down in 2008 derivatives it's like derivatives you're you're
00:41:44.760
selling garbage you're not selling anything nobody really owns anything if you keep selling you know
00:41:52.480
these derivatives it's a scam this is the same thing at a global scale well and you think about
00:42:01.660
what is america uh what are what's one of the greatest assets of america it's our natural resources
00:42:07.980
they're incredible and this allows uh not just wealthy investors but we're talking about countries like
00:42:13.880
china or russia or uh you know iran whomever that has a ton of money in these sovereign wealth funds
00:42:21.340
to buy into a natural asset company because they'll be they'll raise money globally if i'm if if i am
00:42:27.720
in china and i want to cripple the united states i just take west texas and i buy up all of it in one of
00:42:36.760
these companies and they can no longer drill that's right that's exactly right we're suicidal
00:42:44.300
we're absolutely suicidal okay so there is a public comment period right and it's right now and it's
00:42:50.900
been shortened and surprise everybody during the holiday season so yeah is that for the average
00:42:56.900
person can they go online or call or or what yes absolutely so you know i'm telling people to contact
00:43:04.120
their federal legislators their state legislators um you know to have them reach out uh to the sec so
00:43:13.660
people can reach out to the sec but also encourage their your legislators to reach out to the sec
00:43:18.000
and even the new york stock exchange um you know contact your governor your attorney general even the
00:43:24.240
state treasurer uh they need to take action to oppose this um and and you can reach out to the sec
00:43:30.580
directly uh there's five commissioners will it be too late after january because they say they're
00:43:36.240
going to decide by january 2nd well they could decide one of the decisions could be to extend
00:43:41.780
the um decision out further okay um so that's why i'm i'm hoping that we raise enough awareness and
00:43:49.880
and push back that that it makes it difficult for them to to finalize this on january 2nd but you
00:43:55.600
know the the fuse fuse is incredibly short it's incredible by design of course it is of course it is and
00:44:03.600
once again the destruction of everything that we what is america about if you can't come here
00:44:14.040
buy a piece of land and do what you want to do with it what is america about this goes back to agenda
00:44:23.100
2020 agenda 2030 where they're trying to push everybody into the cities and this will do it
00:44:30.920
this will do it and this is a whole of government approach you see all these agencies the forest
00:44:37.380
service fish and wildlife blm the you know bureau of land management all of these agencies are pushing
00:44:43.820
this agenda now the sec right and the sec of course with the sg but um this this just takes it to a
00:44:50.080
whole nother level but you see the entire government apparatus pushing this uh this goal really to
00:44:55.840
permanently stop economic essential economic activity on our land and really lock up our
00:45:01.080
natural resources it's incredibly destructive marlo thank you so much thank you thank you thank you
00:45:06.640
we'll talk to you again marlo oaks he is the treasurer uh of utah who brought this to my attention
00:45:12.460
it it needs uh critical attention right now we're going to have this section of the show clipped
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we'll put it out online please share it with everyone share it with every legislator and senator you
00:45:25.340
can find make sure they know about it make sure your friends know about it this is a way to lock up
00:45:33.220
all public and private lands it is it's obscene and evil and it's got to stop and they will decide
00:45:43.640
by january 20th unless as he said we kick up a storm and make sure that our legislatures
00:45:50.420
uh legislators state and federal are calling and saying no no no not so fast not so fast they've
00:45:58.640
got to call the sec so here's the thing you are telling your congressman or whoever about the natural
00:46:06.420
asset company that the new york stock exchange is creating along with the sec the sec the security
00:46:15.640
and exchange commission cannot allow for the creation of this kind of a company they cannot do it call