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00:03:10.340 welcome to the glenbeck program there's a couple of things going on with uh with a woman that runs 0.89

00:03:19.640 harvard and one of them is hey i have to have a room with with color crayons and comic books so you can

00:03:28.540 read a comic book and then you know color a happy tree because you feel like you're being you know

00:03:35.740 uh you have microaggressions all around you stopping free speech everywhere unless you're calling for

00:03:43.840 you know the death of jews then i guess hey well we know free speech it's crazy but there's something 0.71

00:03:51.620 else that has now been brought brought up that i think people knew about uh in in the harvard world

00:03:57.720 but didn't say anything and that is the fact that its president claudine gay uh broke harvard's own

00:04:05.700 code of conduct on plagiarism and it's a pretty significant amount of plagiarism uh including

00:04:12.960 her doctoral dissertation was plagiarized parts of it were wholly plagiarized and she never credited

00:04:21.180 anybody now here's why this matters you plagiarize something i don't really care you plagiarize

00:04:27.520 something in a book and claim it's yours okay i care because that's stealing from somebody else

00:04:33.880 you plagiarize in a university well you're setting the standards and trying to hold those standards

00:04:42.220 of academic excellence and honesty and if the person who's at the top is known to have plagiarized

00:04:50.340 how do you tell the students we're going to kick you out this has nothing to do with her testimony

00:04:58.280 but it has everything to do with how corrupt our uh our universities are how morally corrupt

00:05:06.460 they are we have uh uh aaron sabariam uh sabariam uh on with us now he wrote a great uh piece for

00:05:15.220 the washington free beacon and we wanted to talk to him about this you went to yale uh and you were

00:05:21.500 the editor of the yale daily news so you know something about ivy league and uh and plagiarism not

00:05:28.920 not really celebrated is it uh no glenn it is not uh it is not celebrated and in fact uh i would say

00:05:38.780 that generally at all of these schools it's standard to get a lecture saying it doesn't matter how small

00:05:44.340 it doesn't matter if it's intention if it's unintentional uh even if you do it with the

00:05:50.040 best intentions uh it's still a serious problem you should double check your work to make sure

00:05:56.300 absolutely nothing is plagiarized that is what harvard tells its students in a very long document

00:06:01.720 that outlines its policies very clearly it no fewer than five times indicates that intent is irrelevant

00:06:07.720 if you take any uh language or even just ideas or content from someone else and don't uh cite them

00:06:15.300 it's plagiarism um and according to the letter of the harvard plagiarism policies

00:06:22.760 they clearly violated them on at least some occasions

00:06:26.300 yeah and like significant i mean you you and your article go through it we don't have to go

00:06:31.200 through it here but it's significant why does this matter

00:06:34.880 well look you know if people do make mistakes and if this were if if this was what we found out of a

00:06:45.680 corpus of say 100 or 200 peer-reviewed papers one of which had won a noble prize you might think okay

00:06:52.500 it's a few paragraphs here or there but the overall contents original is just such a big deal

00:06:57.360 i i think it's worth emphasizing that she has published in total uh 11 peer-reviewed articles

00:07:04.160 11 in the past uh two decades that is a really really small number um for any academic i think

00:07:17.300 at a prestigious university but especially for the academic that the university chooses to elevate

00:07:22.340 to uh his highest position so you're not talking about uh a few instances of maybe careless

00:07:30.700 citations or plagiarism out of 100 papers you're talking about it out of 11 papers right so we found

00:07:38.080 uh so there have been you know 11 peer-reviewed articles we've seen two of them we found examples

00:07:45.260 of plagiarism then in her dissertation then in another thing she wrote that was in a non-peer-reviewed

00:07:50.420 journal so this starts to amount to a pretty substantial percentage of her academic output

00:07:57.880 uh that contains at least some plagiarism material um so as a percentage thing i think that's actually

00:08:07.000 the best way to look at it it's it's not just a couple mistakes here or there it seems to be a

00:08:11.820 pattern and it's a pattern that uh it's fairly consistent throughout uh two decades of relatively

00:08:19.580 miser uh scholarly output miser scholarly output so this is not anything new i mean that it's my

00:08:27.260 understanding that this has kind of been known and kicked around for a while but just kept quiet

00:08:32.140 it didn't matter is that true well yeah it appears to be true because just last night uh the new york

00:08:40.000 post reported that they had many of these examples uh and confronted uh harvard with them all the way

00:08:46.940 back in october and rap and harvard claimed oh we addressed it promptly as soon as it was brought

00:08:52.500 to our attention we initiated a review of gay's work and dr gay requested corrections 0.61

00:08:56.860 proactively well what what the harvard corporation didn't mention is that apparently

00:09:01.620 they uh intimidated may have even threatened to sue uh the new york post for defamation

00:09:08.280 uh after the new york post reached out for comment um so harvard apparently took this seriously enough

00:09:15.920 that they thought it was worth hiring the best defamation law firm in the country claire lock

00:09:21.740 uh god knows how much they were paying them uh to send a 15 page uh intimidation letter to journalists

00:09:30.560 who are coming to them for the examples of plagiarism uh so clearly they thought that it was worth uh

00:09:36.600 pulling out the big bucks uh shelling out a lot of money to shut this down and that was all the

00:09:42.680 way back in october so why would they do this to protect i mean why

00:09:50.880 um

00:09:54.440 i think that claudine yay is uh emblematic of of the of the kind of dei ideology uh that is that is

00:10:10.140 regnant at harvard um you know some people have focused on her race and gender and i'm sure

00:10:15.960 you know they don't want the office to firing harvard's first black president yeah of course

00:10:20.020 um but i actually think it's more than that it's that she she both kind of represents the ideology

00:10:28.240 they already subscribe to and they don't want the ideology discredited and also um this i think

00:10:34.060 hasn't gotten as much attention she was a very shrewd political operator before she became president 1.00

00:10:39.560 she was sort of at the center of a lot of cancellations right she helped engineer the

00:10:45.180 bureaucratic demonstration of both um roland fryer who's this really uh famous black economist at

00:10:52.520 harvard and she helped also strip um uh let's say ronald sullivan uh harvard law professor from an

00:10:59.780 administrative post after sullivan uh made the decision to serve on harvey weinstein's defense team

00:11:06.380 um you can't defend the unpopular that's that's that's no longer allowed uh so she you know i think

00:11:14.160 kind of had a had a pattern of rewarding friends and punishing enemies um and seems to have kind of

00:11:23.040 maneuvered the administration and bureaucratic apparatus of harvard around her uh very shrewdly that's 1.00

00:11:30.580 part of how she became uh president uh and i think that that background may be part of why they're so

00:11:41.820 unwilling to let her go the whole kind of institution has in some sense been mobilized around her and

00:11:49.020 kind of put all the pieces in place um does it play any role that her first cousin is roxanne gay

00:11:54.940 who is a feminist feminist author and new york times writer who's uh absolutely absolutely a terrible 1.00

00:12:03.080 human being uh you know honestly i i don't know if that really i think they would do this with with

00:12:10.920 just about anyone in her position anyone in her position anyone with her ideology um i mean and and i

00:12:19.140 would say too right they've obviously been under pressure from donors um but they're also under pressure

00:12:24.640 from their from their own uh faculty and students and you know you mentioned uh the the testimony she

00:12:30.740 gave where she couldn't forthrightly uh condemn calls for the genocide of jews you know i i think part of

00:12:37.040 the issue is that she couldn't really go up there and say you know yeah we support free speech in all

00:12:41.740 cases and in fact yes even if you want to call for the genocide of insert other group we will protect

00:12:46.720 that because we're so principled a because it wouldn't be true and we all know it's not true but b because

00:12:52.080 if she had said that you know student activists would have come try and tried to burn her house

00:12:58.180 down right so they really she's to be fair to her she is kind of in a rock and a hard place no matter

00:13:05.200 what she does or what harvard does some constituency is going to throw a fit well i have to tell you um

00:13:13.040 you know i don't want to see harm come to anybody but you know gee if if you get nailed by your own

00:13:19.560 policies uh and uh your life is tough because you shoveled this poison and now that poison is coming

00:13:28.540 back to haunt you i you know i have a hard time again with nobody being hurt i have a really hard

00:13:34.120 time you know giving any sympathy to her at all um thank you so much one one last question is this an

00:13:41.640 issue outside of her should this be an issue outside of her testimony in other words is this

00:13:50.580 just being brought up because there's a mob on the other side that is saying hey she should be fired 1.00

00:13:56.740 for this is this a real issue beyond the anti-semitism stuff um obviously the anti-semitism stuff

00:14:06.620 increased scrutiny on her i mean it'd be silly to deny that but i think it would still be an issue

00:14:11.200 um you know this the the plagiarism isn't quite as severe as say it's not like data fraud right

00:14:17.720 there's a guy at stanford actually former stanford president stepped down amid allegations of data

00:14:22.580 fraud and that was really serious right um on its own terms i think this is would be a scandal

00:14:29.700 on its own the anti-semitism stuff obviously amplifies it makes it worse but again i think

00:14:36.600 the real context here is the the meager scholarly record right if again i i really don't think people

00:14:43.380 would care i wouldn't care all that much right we had found this and it was in the context of like

00:14:48.600 200 brilliant peer-reviewed papers but that's not the context and i think that what it underscores is

00:14:53.060 that this woman clearly was not chosen um for her scholarly merit uh if that was the

00:14:59.440 criterion they would have chose they had a lot of other candidates at harvard would have would

00:15:03.660 have been better thank you so much i appreciate appreciate all your work and all your writing

00:15:07.520 god bless this is the best of the glenbeck program mr mark levin how are you my friend

00:15:14.360 mr glenbeck let me look i'm good thank you good good uh i'm pretty good you know i'm i'm a little

00:15:22.580 concerned about you know uh 2024 uh can't come up with a scenario where it ends well but maybe you

00:15:31.340 can it's such a mess i mean you got people talking third party i think if if nikki haley who i really

00:15:40.520 oppose i mean i call her george bush in a dress and she pretty much is and with their foreign policy

00:15:47.660 it is she is well their foreign policy actually domestic policy as soon as she wanted to invite

00:15:53.460 the palestinians in gaza into our country but she lost her mind yeah that's uh she uh she gave land 0.87

00:16:00.680 to communist china in south carolina and now she pretends she's a hardliner she's never been a leader on 0.94

00:16:07.540 any of the issues that matter to us whether it's abortion whether it's uh the border uh whether it's tax

00:16:14.580 cuts and i looked at these allegations by de santis and he's right go on to google him look at him

00:16:20.560 she refused to sign a bill that said men use men's rooms and ladies use ladies rooms now when he came 0.98

00:16:26.940 to the woke war she sided with disney i'm going what's going on here this woman is not going to 1.00

00:16:31.120 be able to fight the marxist revolution that is surrounding us and swirling around us today 1.00

00:16:35.820 which is why carl rove and romney and this guy fink at blackstone or black rock whatever the hell

00:16:44.740 they call themselves all these people including liberal democrat billionaires who are going to

00:16:49.900 vote for biden are backing her so that so she goes third party you know the rhinos are the fifth column 0.91

00:16:56.840 that the fifth column in our party and frankly the fifth column in this country along with the media

00:17:01.400 the democrats once they get their fighting out of the way go back by and they would back a kumquat 0.97

00:17:08.340 for president no i know they wouldn't it means that they but our guys they'll splinter the base is

00:17:13.980 always supposed to march behind whatever the republican establishment does but this goes to your point

00:17:19.140 doesn't it which is yeah it's concerning uh the way you feel about nikki haley would you fall in line

00:17:26.580 behind her i don't have to she's going to fall before i have to fall no i know but if she were

00:17:32.420 the candidate i've had enough okay all right me too me too however if it is by if it's biden or

00:17:41.900 i think michelle obama i'd vote for a kumquat yeah and i don't think it'll be michelle obama

00:17:49.460 by the way you haven't heard a word from her have you no we haven't but i just i it's the only

00:17:55.860 scenario that works out i mean let's mention yeah that the the uh the uh uh you know the super

00:18:05.780 delegates they just forget the vote they just say you know what he's too ill or whatever he's too frail

00:18:13.480 you know the democrats want another choice let's just we nominate michelle obama 0.81

00:18:19.040 believe it or not if that happens i think they're going to turn to hillary but it doesn't matter what 1.00

00:18:23.960 we think yeah i know problem is what's happening right now is this grotesque effort to try and put

00:18:30.000 donald trump in prison so you read you read this got this this a-hole who filed this with the supreme 0.61

00:18:37.940 court he's always wanting to cut the corners he doesn't get attorney-client privilege so ruled an

00:18:43.000 obama judge all these privileges presidential privilege executive privilege attorney-client

00:18:48.820 privilege all denied donald trump he doesn't want to go through the normal appellate process because

00:18:54.800 he can't get his trial going before the election you know it takes years to have a full-blown

00:19:00.700 criminal trial particularly when you're raising you're creating constitutional issues of first

00:19:06.380 impression so he brings us to this point now he's demanding that the supreme court hear his 0.90

00:19:12.100 his motion against trump as soon as possible and these dimwits they say okay we'll consider your

00:19:20.360 argument trump's lawyers you have one week to respond because what you had a case in pennsylvania

00:19:26.940 during the course of this election not about ballots not about voting machines a pure constitutional

00:19:33.080 question a legitimate question about who gets to decide and write election laws in the state

00:19:39.800 the governor the board of elections or the legislature like the constitution says in black

00:19:46.060 and white they wouldn't even take up that case you have other cases that people are waiting for in

00:19:53.980 front of the supreme court not to get too much in the weeds these enron case they use the obstruction

00:19:59.500 and the enron case against these jace january sixers which doesn't apply it doesn't even meet the

00:20:06.280 elements so they're on appeal all the way to the supreme court and the same day the court says okay

00:20:12.020 we want to hear these arguments on the motion from uh jack the ripper smith there the court says

00:20:17.840 we're going to put on this for now well maybe we'll consider it later in the year or next year you've got

00:20:22.760 people sitting in jail so this is really amazing you have a case this judge trunkin i had a great

00:20:30.420 lawyer on my program shown is his name david shown and he said mark i've been spending three years

00:20:37.400 waiting for a decision from this judge who wants to have a trial on trump in a five-month period it's

00:20:44.560 all a setup and so this guy jack smith the courts are bending over backwards to accommodate this guy he

00:20:52.940 wins every single motion trump loses every single motion in front of this radical obama judge

00:20:58.820 the appellate court which is overwhelmingly democrat because when carrie reid was the senate leader

00:21:04.760 and obama was president they added seats to the dc circuit and filled it with democrats 0.56

00:21:10.060 this recent panel had two obama appointees and one biden appointee the judge that trump's dealing with now

00:21:17.800 is an obama appointee the judge trump was dealing with before that was another obama appointee

00:21:24.560 and now we go to the supreme court and i'll tell you glenn john roberts is a huge problem john roberts

00:21:33.180 is like this guy michael ludig they hate trump the republicans but you know they're proper republicans

00:21:40.160 they don't like the tweeting you know they don't like the language oh my goodness all this stuff's going

00:21:45.820 on here it's just so unseemly it's so improper you know they're just used to losing the country

00:21:52.220 very properly you know yeah uh but what's happening here in my view is we have a potent criminal justice

00:21:59.060 system we have judges that wear black robes you go into these these mahogany paneled courtrooms you've

00:22:06.120 got a prosecutor standing over there he gets his desk the defense gets their desk eventually you have a

00:22:11.340 trial the jury sits over there it all looks so proper it all looks so constitutional and it's all 0.83

00:22:18.460 bull crap because all these movements and actions before this trial the motions filings the decisions 0.79

00:22:25.840 on the motion filings and everything they will determine the outcome of this election and just 0.98

00:22:31.280 finally i know i'm rambling a bit but i tend to do that one of the things that troubles me a lot

00:22:36.760 is this yeah this guy charges trump with a clan act violation with two enron violations and a federal

00:22:47.440 contractor violation these four statutes so it was bogus it is bogus but his arguments which had been

00:22:54.960 allowed by this judge his paper filings are all about insurrection and seditious conspiracy in other

00:23:03.560 words and this is a grotesque violation of uh of uh prosecutorial ethics grotesque he is making the case

00:23:12.260 without having proved the elements of the crimes that he's basically arguing for that donald trump knew

00:23:20.140 or had to know that what he was saying what he was doing what he was texting what he was reading prove

00:23:26.680 that he wanted a violent event to occur that day so why didn't you charge him with that he's not

00:23:33.660 charged with violence about anything he charged with the clan act and obstruction and all the rest of

00:23:38.120 these things and the judge rules oh that's okay what's okay so he's charged with four phony charges

00:23:46.800 but this guy's arguing something completely different and other serious litigators or former federal

00:23:55.220 prosecutors or whatever are saying this is not the way this is supposed to be done and it's all

00:23:59.240 happening the supreme court should not take this case up it shut there's no emergency reason why this

00:24:04.840 case has by the way if you read this motion this clown keeps talking about the public interest that

00:24:10.660 people have a right to know what does he know about the public interest he sits hold up he's in a room

00:24:16.460 with with with 10 other reprobates they're making all these decisions on their own and then they speak for

00:24:21.780 the public well they sure as hell don't speak for 80 million people and so the judiciary i would argue

00:24:28.200 is doing severe damage to this country allowing incredible interference in this election process

00:24:35.200 well and when it's all said and done they'll never recover i will tell you that john roberts is the kind

00:24:40.780 of guy who thinks we should rule on this and let this go forward otherwise we'll be blamed for it

00:24:47.800 and they'll say oh it's the judicial activism of the supreme court so we're protecting the supreme court

00:24:54.940 by letting this small injustice as they would think just let this pass let them do it and they hash it out

00:25:03.640 and then our hands are clean it's a it's an act of pontius pilot quite honestly um 100 percent yeah um

00:25:09.920 i call him hollywood john he's very worried about what's said about him and thought about him his wife

00:25:14.980 and thomas threedman over there the new york times their best friends they get caught up in

00:25:19.680 these social circles which always go the way of the left and i don't trust this guy i don't even

00:25:25.740 trust kavanaugh and barrett is a complete disappointment because she's right under roberts's

00:25:32.160 wing you really have three tremendous constitutionalists and you've got a couple of rhinos and then you've got 0.61

00:25:39.400 the hardcore left democrats i'm worried about this so alan dershowitz has said just based on the speed

00:25:47.660 of this trial he's like there's no there's no way donald trump could even prepare for a a defense

00:25:56.000 and he said we are at a banana republic if that isn't stopped he's like there's there's no way

00:26:04.280 that there should that this trial should go forward next year only because of the amount

00:26:11.620 and volume of documents that have to be processed uh he said it's it's criminal if they speed this

00:26:19.920 trial up or they let it go at this rate do you agree with that i mean you denied him a time privilege

00:26:27.800 you did it in a secret proceeding that's a violation of the fifth amendment and the phony claim of a crime

00:26:33.400 fraud exception so his lead lawyer in the january 6th case had to testify in front of the grand jury

00:26:39.580 and he had to provide his notes that he had taken with donald trump and we've never seen anything

00:26:44.580 like this we don't know what they're talking about it's all done in secret that happens i'm told other

00:26:50.280 things happen in front of that grand jury that were absolutely unacceptable by some of the lawyers

00:26:54.920 working on this case so what he's talking about there's what's there's a violation of due process

00:27:01.740 fifth amendment and the sixth amendment which is the right to effective counsel you can't have

00:27:06.340 effective counsel when they're drowning in documents and witnesses and everything else and the judge uh

00:27:12.560 for no reason he said that there is there there is no way that he he said if that uh lawyer

00:27:20.440 stands in front of that judge and he says no you have to proceed and they aren't ready because they

00:27:28.560 there's no way possible he said he should uh quit immediately and say i'm sorry i'm not going to

00:27:36.040 abide and if that means you're going to hold me in contempt hold me in contempt but this is a travesty

00:27:42.220 of justice well i guess that's right i mean every lawyer has to make their own decision on how to proceed

00:27:49.140 um so i don't know if i do that or not i really hadn't thought about it that said he's right on the

00:27:55.440 substance of the issue 100 right now the problem with all this is this lower court judge and this

00:28:00.320 prosecutor all know that they're setting donald trump up for a conviction so when he runs for office

00:28:06.800 as president in the general election the media and everyone else will keep calling him a convicted felon

00:28:11.980 a convicted felon so the people who are kind of on the edge kind of leaning toward trump because they

00:28:17.360 can't stand biden we know who these people are we live to people like this right in our communities

00:28:22.720 in our neighborhoods we meet them he might lose them and that's the goal right and you can see

00:28:28.620 the hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign funding that's going to be spent by the democrats

00:28:32.820 in the biden campaign or in your case michelle obama campaign talking about how trump is a convicted

00:28:39.240 felon and then i want to pardon himself so we won't be talking about inflation and the border so all of

00:28:47.460 the best legal minds that i know all say that no matter what the evidence in washington dc he's going

00:28:55.300 to be convicted uh do you believe that i'd share that yeah okay what i mean go ahead and i'll tell you

00:29:06.060 why i mean um if you're not really able to present your case if you're not really able to present to

00:29:12.380 study the evidence right and in addition to that to bring forward counter evidence exculpatory

00:29:18.680 information because you can't get your head around it because of the time frame if you're in a city

00:29:23.700 that goes 94 for biden and the jury's picked by that out of that population if you have an obama judge

00:29:30.560 that is ruling in every every single instance for the government uh when you have a prosecutor who is

00:29:37.680 utterly and completely unethical who is using uh tactics uh that in most courtrooms would be rejected

00:29:46.400 you're setting up a scenario where nobody nobody could survive because you're targeting this defendant

00:29:58.340 the charges are preposterous and by the time you can actually get to an appellate court

00:30:05.340 it's over and so that makes what jack smith is doing is so horrific because he's trying to jump

00:30:15.040 the appellate court on a constitutional issue to get to the supreme court and the court is at least

00:30:21.180 entertaining the idea whereas the defendant donald trump can't get his constitutional issues up there

00:30:29.340 that fast because the supreme court has decided over and over and over again now you go through

00:30:35.320 the trial you go through the appellate court you need to fine-tune the constitutional issues then

00:30:40.500 we might take a look at it so the whole system and really as you well know and your listeners well

00:30:47.800 know you can have the best constitution on the face of the earth the best judicial system on paper but

00:30:53.780 if you don't have people of virtue particularly judges uh none of it works it doesn't matter what's

00:31:00.440 on paper there is no due process there is no right to counsel and effectively that's what's going on

00:31:04.960 here so the likelihood is very high now here's the problem if the court does take up this case

00:31:12.560 for this argument and rules against jack smith that is that donald trump does have immunity from actions he

00:31:22.720 took while president after he leaves the presidency then the government really doesn't have a case

00:31:29.720 they're in huge trouble and this case will go on long way that no way that john roberts allows that to

00:31:37.000 happen no way that's my fear you're listening to the best of glenn back check out the full show podcast

00:31:44.400 to listen to the rest of this interview all right marlo oaks welcome to the program sir thank you good

00:31:53.080 to be here glenn thank you very much and thank you for alerting me to this this is horrifying this is a

00:32:00.220 new sec proposal to allow for a creation of a new type of company tell us about it yeah so basically a

00:32:09.880 natural asset company and really the the heart of the problem is that it will permanently stop

00:32:14.780 economically essential activities like grazing mineral extraction modern agriculture uh severe it

00:32:21.780 can severely curtail recreational access we're basically talking about the destruction of rural

00:32:28.340 america and really it's an effort to take control of america's natural resources this could be done

00:32:34.600 uh through these natural asset companies with from hostile nations that put money into these um and

00:32:41.700 we're essentially placing a value on natural processes things like uh you know the the uh biological

00:32:49.660 systems that provide clean air water uh food things like that um putting an economic value on those

00:32:57.340 it's really an arbitrary value this is a massive transfer of wealth this is just another

00:33:03.620 scam this is another uh financial scam to make people a lot of money but this one you know unlike the

00:33:14.880 scams that cost us you know almost our freedom last time in 2008 this one actually if it goes through

00:33:23.460 if you buy let's say this stock in this in this company um you then can uh you would be

00:33:33.200 uh giving the money to buy up the rights of all the minerals and even like the air and you can't you

00:33:42.940 can't develop it because it's a forest and there's lots of there's lots of clean air that's being

00:33:48.120 generated right that's exactly right and so basically the new york stock exchange went to the securities

00:33:55.700 exchange commission and said we need a rule that will allow us to list companies whose purpose isn't to

00:34:00.960 make money is to provide ecological services and what are those ecological services well it is

00:34:06.940 it is the the biological systems that are that are creating clean air so think of a forest right

00:34:13.300 um taking carbon out of the air and converting it into oxygen what is that worth uh what are underground

00:34:20.640 aquifers worth you know the water that seeps through the ground and and creates clean water

00:34:26.220 um it's those kinds of what we think of god-given processes that are now going to be monetized in

00:34:34.980 some way and and people who own um these companies who put money into these companies

00:34:42.100 they stand to benefit from that at the expense of our uh country so now are they let's say let's say

00:34:49.780 i'm a landowner and i have farmland and i have forest um do i participate in this do i have to say yes

00:34:58.020 my everything is up for sale or is this just kind of like air rights in new york where you're just

00:35:05.860 buying the rights of air well there is there's you know as we know from esg the the climate crisis is

00:35:15.020 really driving the esg environmental social governance discussion it's the same thing here

00:35:19.980 and and there is a push uh really an attack on energy and agriculture right and so when we look

00:35:28.340 at agriculture we're seeing the squeezing of the of ranchers and and farms and and these natural

00:35:35.500 asset companies ban what's called industrial agriculture which is essentially all agriculture that

00:35:41.700 happens around the globe because it that that's what produces the yields that are needed to feed the

00:35:47.200 the world population and so if you ban industrial agriculture you're talking about something that

00:35:53.240 happened in sri lanka which was the the reduction of of rice harvest 40 to 50 percent leading to an 80

00:36:00.460 percent increase in in prices there it led to uh civil unrest uh unbelievably uh there and and that's what

00:36:09.160 we're talking about so let me have a very western conversation with you um most people in the east

00:36:14.260 they don't understand blm land um and that is uh not black lives matter uh that is bureau of land

00:36:22.180 management they own in the west a great portion of uh the uh the land that farmers use to graze their

00:36:31.560 cattle on because it's just open land uh and you pay a fee and you can graze your cattle a cattle on

00:36:38.660 that land and the government's supposed to take care of it this would this company this new uh natural

00:36:45.760 asset company would then not take control of the land right it would just say no grazing cattle on

00:36:53.920 that land because we need it pure for the carbon offset or whatever um and so it would grab that but

00:37:00.760 could it grab could it grab my land if i'm a farmer well it it could be inside of a designated

00:37:10.600 area so right now in montana there are five million acres are um they're trying the the federal government

00:37:17.660 i've forgotten which agency it is designated five five million acres um they're trying to create a

00:37:24.360 national monument out of this and there's private land within within that and so your land could be

00:37:29.880 inside of a designated area and and the government wouldn't necessarily uh you know buy your land

00:37:37.460 but you're you're going to end up with fewer options yeah you won't have any roads maintained

00:37:42.520 you you won't be able to expand or do it you might be able to be grandfathered into what you're doing

00:37:48.000 right now but nothing else right and there's the infrastructure will be left alone yeah that that's

00:37:55.260 right and and so even in the east so in the east you have um you have conservation easements and so

00:38:02.560 um landowners in the east have have uh placed their lands in conservation easements which effectively

00:38:10.220 means that that no development can happen and they do this to uh get a tax benefit but over time because

00:38:18.480 it's in perpetuity that land that the um use of the land when you entered into a conservation easement cannot change

00:38:27.380 uh but the subjective nature of uh creating a sustainable um culture agricultural or a sustainable land

00:38:36.860 going forward uh means that that land can be placed in a natural asset company these conservation easements can

00:38:46.480 go into a natural asset company and without the landowner's consent essentially and so this this

00:38:52.180 really is affects people in the east and the west um it's just under different um uh well it

00:38:59.960 designation yeah and it will affect all of us because our food prices will go through the roof

00:39:05.340 uh and good yeah and good luck going to a national park let me ask you this how is the new york stock

00:39:12.760 exchange pushing for this because what the what this this natural asset company uh this this new this whole new

00:39:21.840 category it is non-economic the the land that they would buy as a private entity must support only

00:39:31.480 replenishable activities so that means that they can only replenish the land they can't have any economic

00:39:39.680 activity on it um it's assigned an arbitrary value and then it's traded on that but this is a there's

00:39:47.680 no profit you cannot make profit on this so who would be buying the stock for this because you're not

00:39:55.020 going to make money well you're not going to make money through traditional economic activity but if

00:40:01.760 if um companies have to be net zero uh let's say you're emitting a lot of carbon then you can you

00:40:10.440 will have a an incentive to buy into natural asset companies that will prevent provide potentially

00:40:15.880 carbon offsets through these natural processes that's one way to drive artificial value so i am putting a lot

00:40:22.360 of pollution up in the air but if i buy part of yellowstone or part of you know montana that uh can no

00:40:31.520 longer be developed then i can use that and say yeah but i've got all these trees producing all this

00:40:37.580 fresh air exactly this is so evil this is so incredibly evil yeah we've thought of you know

00:40:48.480 we've thought of natural processes as sort of god-given right and and and you and i are walking carbon

00:40:55.280 emitters i mean when we when we breathe out we're emitting four percent carbon and so what happens when

00:41:01.060 each of us individually have a carbon footprint that we have to offset you know the wealthy can

00:41:05.640 easily do it they just go out and buy you know uh access to nacks but uh it's the poorest among us

00:41:11.940 suddenly are they going to have to pay for their uh carbon emission and then and then uh you know that

00:41:18.540 that is going to incentivize uh car reduction you know getting people out of cars and and walking and

00:41:25.000 bicycles and things like that i mean you can see where this goes yeah most importantly this gives a

00:41:29.860 public private partnership a chance to enrich all of the very wealthy anyway and it is it it is like

00:41:38.920 uh what was it that almost brought us down in 2008 derivatives it's like derivatives you're you're

00:41:44.760 selling garbage you're not selling anything nobody really owns anything if you keep selling you know

00:41:52.480 these derivatives it's a scam this is the same thing at a global scale well and you think about 0.81

00:42:01.660 what is america uh what are what's one of the greatest assets of america it's our natural resources

00:42:07.980 they're incredible and this allows uh not just wealthy investors but we're talking about countries like

00:42:13.880 china or russia or uh you know iran whomever that has a ton of money in these sovereign wealth funds

00:42:21.340 to buy into a natural asset company because they'll be they'll raise money globally if i'm if if i am

00:42:27.720 in china and i want to cripple the united states i just take west texas and i buy up all of it in one of 0.76

00:42:36.760 these companies and they can no longer drill that's right that's exactly right we're suicidal

00:42:44.300 we're absolutely suicidal okay so there is a public comment period right and it's right now and it's

00:42:50.900 been shortened and surprise everybody during the holiday season so yeah is that for the average

00:42:56.900 person can they go online or call or or what yes absolutely so you know i'm telling people to contact

00:43:04.120 their federal legislators their state legislators um you know to have them reach out uh to the sec so

00:43:13.660 people can reach out to the sec but also encourage their your legislators to reach out to the sec

00:43:18.000 and even the new york stock exchange um you know contact your governor your attorney general even the

00:43:24.240 state treasurer uh they need to take action to oppose this um and and you can reach out to the sec

00:43:30.580 directly uh there's five commissioners will it be too late after january because they say they're

00:43:36.240 going to decide by january 2nd well they could decide one of the decisions could be to extend

00:43:41.780 the um decision out further okay um so that's why i'm i'm hoping that we raise enough awareness and

00:43:49.880 and push back that that it makes it difficult for them to to finalize this on january 2nd but you

00:43:55.600 know the the fuse fuse is incredibly short it's incredible by design of course it is of course it is and

00:44:03.600 once again the destruction of everything that we what is america about if you can't come here 0.87

00:44:14.040 buy a piece of land and do what you want to do with it what is america about this goes back to agenda

00:44:23.100 2020 agenda 2030 where they're trying to push everybody into the cities and this will do it

00:44:30.920 this will do it and this is a whole of government approach you see all these agencies the forest

00:44:37.380 service fish and wildlife blm the you know bureau of land management all of these agencies are pushing

00:44:43.820 this agenda now the sec right and the sec of course with the sg but um this this just takes it to a

00:44:50.080 whole nother level but you see the entire government apparatus pushing this uh this goal really to

00:44:55.840 permanently stop economic essential economic activity on our land and really lock up our

00:45:01.080 natural resources it's incredibly destructive marlo thank you so much thank you thank you thank you

00:45:06.640 we'll talk to you again marlo oaks he is the treasurer uh of utah who brought this to my attention

00:45:12.460 it it needs uh critical attention right now we're going to have this section of the show clipped

00:45:19.060 we'll put it out online please share it with everyone share it with every legislator and senator you

00:45:25.340 can find make sure they know about it make sure your friends know about it this is a way to lock up

00:45:33.220 all public and private lands it is it's obscene and evil and it's got to stop and they will decide

00:45:43.640 by january 20th unless as he said we kick up a storm and make sure that our legislatures

00:45:50.420 uh legislators state and federal are calling and saying no no no not so fast not so fast they've

00:45:58.640 got to call the sec so here's the thing you are telling your congressman or whoever about the natural

00:46:06.420 asset company that the new york stock exchange is creating along with the sec the sec the security

00:46:15.640 and exchange commission cannot allow for the creation of this kind of a company they cannot do it call

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The Glenn Beck Program - December 13, 2023

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