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In this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, Glenn sits down with the Alliance Defending Freedom's Senior Counsel, Chris Chandeville. They discuss what it means to be a friend to freedom and how important it is to stand up to those who are perverting the Constitution and trying to get around our laws.
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at what point do you think we checked out on today's show it's a three-day weekend usually
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we check out the day before friday i was gonna say tuesday was my line
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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welcome to the glenn beck program it is friday i want to give you some good news there are there are
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lots of things that you are winning on a lot of court battles that you are winning on if you missed
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the first hour of this podcast broadcast you need to go back and listen to my my call
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to an attorney um we need to uh understand what you're fighting against and what you are fighting
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against are people who are perverting the constitution and going around all of their powers that are
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legally prescribed and doing anything they want the way to fight that is not through angry words or
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anything else but through the court system and shame on all you attorneys that won't stand up
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shame on you you you should be form forming uh your firms with the people who think like you do
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and amassing the biggest list of attorneys that are like you know what i've had enough my country
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is worth more than my money or prestige you will be remembered as a friend to freedom
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now let me introduce you to one of the attorneys who is like that uh chris uh chandeville he is
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with the alliance defending freedom he is senior counsel chris we talked to you guys uh what was it
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about a month ago uh about a case you were battling in new mexico with the with doctors um and uh and
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what new mexico was trying to force doctors to do and you had just won that case and you mentioned that
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you were in another case similar to it in california can you tell us the case sure so there in new mexico
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uh we had just won a case um essentially we filed a lawsuit um on behalf of medical professionals there
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in the state who who said listen we cannot in good conscience help our patients kill themselves
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and that is what the law there would have required them to do as a result of that lawsuit as we discussed
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last week the new mexico legislature actually amended their law um to take away those requirements
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that would have forced those doctors to participate in that process so we were thrilled about that
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result and happy to bring you that good news uh there like you said about a month ago and now in
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california uh we're back and we're celebrating again a really excellent victory that we were able to
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achieve on behalf of a group of doctors there um who again were challenging a very similar law
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that would have required them um if a patient of theirs expressed a desire to obtain lethal drugs
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to kill themselves even if those doctors you know believe that the medical profession is about
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helping and healing and not hurting and killing so they they have a conscious objection to uh assisting
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in that process of their patients killing killing themselves those doctors still under these new changes to
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the law would have been required to document that first oral request for those lethal drugs in that
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patient's medical record and that is significant under the law because it's the first step in the process
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of those patients obtaining those lethal drugs and so we filed a lawsuit on their behalf and we're just so
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thrilled to report that we've settled that lawsuit with the state of california they have agreed
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to not require a single uh physician anywhere in the state of california uh to be forced against their
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will to participate in that process of helping their patients commit suicide and so it really is a
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sweeping victory we have dr leslie cochran on who was um named in this suit um and uh a plaintiff in the
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medical and dental association versus uh bonta i think it it was uh leslie doctor
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welcome dr cochran are you there okay he's not there um well chris good job on this now my concern is
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that you know i i'm a an amateur uh self-taught historian my concern is everything that dr mangala did
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in the 1930s and 40s was up to the law uh it was all legal all those experiments everything
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um and they started killing children early on and then the people found out and they supposedly
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stopped it but the medical world behind the backs of the people just kept doing it anyway i'm concerned
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about the people that could be weeded out at the uh medical school level are are there any blocks for
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people that have you know christian beliefs or don't believe in all this woke garbage are they being
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held back is there anybody watching what's being what's happening in the medical schools
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well sure i think that is a a real concern that we should we should uh care about and and and be
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be vigilant about and i think it really starts with you know if if uh they are able to if this radical
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really pro-death agenda is able to weaponize uh the medical profession uh to advance this agenda
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through legalizing uh physician-assisted suicide uh through legally compelling doctors to participate
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uh in that practice uh then the medical schools can say you know listen we're just we're just enforcing
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uh the laws of our state by requiring our medical students to agree to participate in these practices
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right so we we really have to be attacking these laws head-on yes you know not just saying oh well
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i guess we'll go along to get along or you know maybe we'll just you know have some of our doctors
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leave the state of california and go to other states where they can practice medicine in good
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conscience because the result is um you know that leaves all of the the result is death and the result
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is that their patients are left behind right with doctors who will participate in the practice of
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helping them okay i'm i'm told that we have leslie on now doctor are you there yes okay so you are a
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full-time hospice uh physician when this came down and you were told you must provide the information
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what happens what happens now when a when a patient says that to you well uh we normally as as
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physicians especially hospice physicians were talking to people every day about end-of-life
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issues and and since this law became affect the end-of-life option act initially became a law
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uh beginning in 2016 i would essentially be able to talk to my patient and say let's talk about what
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your issues are and what you're concerned about uh you know death uh or physician assisted suicide was
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never on the table of one of the things that i would ever recommend as a physician as a way to
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treat someone's symptoms this uh new law that it twisted and removed the protection that had been
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there for me before uh basically put me in the position of either choosing to violate the law
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and telling the patient no i am not going to participate in physician assisted suicide
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that would have essentially uh been something i wouldn't have been allowed to do i would have had
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to uh participate in the conversation with the patient uh take down their request uh and and note
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their request in the medical record and then refer them to a physician that would fulfill that request
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and and of course that is something that myself and and many other physicians would would be a
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violation of their conscience of their professional ethics and their values and i would have been
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forced to violate the law or to quit practicing medicine in the state of california both of which
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are unacceptable it is well you should get out of california for a myriad of reasons but um the uh
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uh the amazing thing is is everything that is happening right right now is not uh it is being forced
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individuals are being forced to participate it no matter what your conscience says you are forced
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to participate and that's just that goes against god i think but it also goes against the the american
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understanding of everything that is is right and decent you know i you're not forcing me to do
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something against my will uh and it's a it's a little terrifying but i'm glad you won this thank you
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for standing up has it has it cost you and has it been worth standing up and and fighting in california
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well it's worth standing up and fighting and to to tell you the truth uh you know physicians if we
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don't if we don't stand up for something that we know is wrong or bad or harmful you know to violate
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our conscience and to participate in a process that we think would be uh unethical you know that's a
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disservice to the frail the weak and the elderly because what you know it starts with uh it starts with
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a choice and and you don't have to look beyond our northern border to see in canada where you move
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from physician-assisted suicide very quickly into euthanasia and and then even into europe where
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euthanasia without consent can occur so it is important for doctors and people of conscience
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to stand up and say no i was sworn to protect and to help heal my patients i refuse to participate
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in their death uh to knowingly give them a medication that they're going to use to end their
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life uh dr chris thank you very much thanks for the great update keep fighting if you would like to
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support the alliance defending freedom this is a group of really good attorneys that are going out
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and they are fighting for rights you can make a uh donation and find out more about them at adf
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legal.org that's adf legal.org thanks guys this is the best of the glennbeck program and don't forget
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rate us on itunes my brother from another mother adam curry how are you sir uh glenn twice in one week i
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don't know what's happening i know it's crazy well i have such a long list of things to talk to you by the
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way that podcast is off the charts off the charts good you know it was a lot of fun and you're a very
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gracious host your staff is so wonderful and really i think we could just talk you know without cameras
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or microphones or anything we just talk anytime about anything i love it i know and we don't
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necessarily agree on everything but that's totally cool i mean i find you a smart reasonable human being
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uh and i learn something from you every time anyway um one thing that we didn't get to uh in the
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podcast which by the way adam curry is the podcast this weekend wherever you get your podcast tomorrow
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also on youtube and blaze tv it's already there um the one thing we didn't get to is something that i
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just can't figure out in on in two directions one if 15 years ago 20 years ago we would have said
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uh yes and spokespeople from the pentagon uh have verified that aliens uh are circling the planet and
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tracking uh our nuclear sites and we even have a piece of alien technology that would have been a big
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deal but now now they're saying this and nobody cares and i don't know if you're just so focused on
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other things if people don't believe it if we should believe it what's going on with the alien thing
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oh well it's interesting you say 15 years ago because that's literally about the timeline when
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i started with no agenda and when i started looking into uh into conspiracies uh so-called
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conspiracies and i really decided pretty quickly that i'm not a conspiracy theorist i'm a conspiracy
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therapist and this whole this whole life and i actually i did i did a lot of i was living in
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the uk at the time and i was very into you know aliens and the tall the the tall blondes and the
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grays and all of this stuff and i flew to places to meet people who claimed to you know know an alien
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and i never got any any confirmation whatsoever and you're right it's that's also i think because
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the media is so um you know everything is media now it's not just you know walter cronkite saying hey
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look uh these uh these pilots are saying that they've seen ufos um so i have looked into this
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and um there's there's part logical explanation and then there is of course a conspiracy that goes
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along with it and what we've seen um since i think 2014 is a lot of radar images you know the tic-tac
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we've seen uh um radar images from submarines where things appear and then disappear and we've seen
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actual we've seen actual footage they say from uh uh fighter pilots and uh navy and air force pilots
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recording these things doing things that are way beyond technology at least that we know of
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well this technology actually has been discussed openly and it's again notice that the footage we're
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seeing is radar footage it's not cameras that are taking a picture of this thing flying and you know
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at unbelievable speeds going under the water etc it's radar footage and i it was a harvard professor who
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in the 70s um started talking about this his name is rob professor robert duncan what this really is
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these this particular uh phenomenon which i can speak to they're directed energy weapons and i'm not
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talking about laser beams that melt you or anything but much more like a laser pointer uh in the sky
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and they excite the electrons in the atmosphere so this ionization that takes place and this shows
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up on radar and this is military technology that was created to make a fleet appear all of a sudden so
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the the concept was um you make this all these ships appear all of a sudden our adversary wherever
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they would be would see this would you know get their fighter planes in the air and go off and try
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to attack them then they disappear and then we would come in from the other directions and attack
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that flank um and you know it really is nothing more than that it's really good technology because
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it actually leaves radar traces it's like it's almost like a laser pointer in the sky and that's and
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if you think about that tic tac like you're the cat in the fighter plane you look at your radar you see
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this thing and it goes under the water and all over the place and it does things that seem uh um
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impossible now the conspiracy part of this is something called project blue beam have you ever heard of
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that no so project blue beam um the idea and this developed over time as well is that this very
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technology would be used to create the voice of god um and it could be used two ways uh one to bring
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the whole world together you know new world order everybody uh all focused on one thing which would
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either be the common enemy you know oh the aliens are coming or right the voice of god which you could
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also you can use the same technology to create sound waves which would bring a message to unite the world
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uh and and i'm pretty steadfast in in believing that this is what this is this is about now why
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people aren't freaking out about it um there's so much to freak about out about no i know i know but
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people are obsessed with target yeah but target versus alien life that is here seems uh i would i would tip
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the scales towards the alien life thing um but uh i just can't figure it i just can't figure it out and
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why why is the government making such a big deal the pentagon and the leaks and then the officials
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coming out and saying what they are congress and then no one picking it up it just it just seems
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really odd yeah i can speaking to the the military and congress that to me would be the blue beam part
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of it saying hey you know let's get everyone either a very afraid which is kind of the model you know
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aliens uh or let's unite everybody under one common voice of god you know like reagan you know like
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get everyone together um why people don't care about it i mean that that literally just has to be
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because we're so used to fake everything we're looking at screens all day that is not reality
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we see imagery that is you know created by you know ai call it photoshop ai whatever you want
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we see uh i mean we're so used to things that are just not real i think we've become
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anesthetized against it and like yeah whatever yeah we can handle that bring us aliens maybe people
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will be happy to see it um let me take you to some news uh today uh comer and the house oversight
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committee says that um there is a five million dollar bribe that joe biden took the fbi has a case on it
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it's open uh they've buried it he is saying i'm gonna hold you in contempt if you don't uh release
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those documents because of a whistleblower uh the doj has dropped charges against the soros-backed
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massachusetts da who was caught lying under oath and meddling in an election um highly illegal she was
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uh going to be uh resigning her post doj has dropped all charges on that then you have stewart
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roads the guy from oath keepers who you know i don't think is a good guy but he didn't bring a
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weapon didn't enter the capital didn't harm anybody wasn't arrested for a year and he got 18 years
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in prison uh i think we have a problem with our doj uh is this fixable i know we talked in the podcast
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about you know your uncle and the cia and so we went in pretty deep on uh you know what the cia has
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been responsible for in the past and i hope people start to care about it um but is is this too far gone
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well the sooner as we discussed in the podcast the sooner we all realize how captured everything is
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all of our institutions the sooner we can realize that not only can we change it we actually we have
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the power to change these things um even congress but by definition of superpower i'm not saying that
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you need to get money out of politics but also these institutions are also completely captured i mean
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even even just to get on a committee you need one or two million bucks to give to your party i mean
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that you get that by raising money you get that by pandering to certain uh uh certain audiences etc
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um nothing will change unless we seriously understand that we have all the power within our hands i know it
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sounds like a very simple thing but we can i mean look we're able to through crowdfunding create devices
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that we want we're able to create the media that we want we're slowly starting to realize and i think
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tucker carlson was the tipping point in my mind that media and mainstream media is over it's it's done
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it's totally it's it's irrelevant the blaze is a fantastic uh example of that in fact i think you
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know people like oh well elon musk hired tucker i don't think so i think tucker's gonna pay elon musk
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i think it's the other way around this this is the new model you know this it's about the distribution
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that you that you have in your own hand and people are in one on in one way they're splitting off and
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and getting into the smaller groups which i think is just fine but when we realize how much power we
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have to support our own media to support our own institutions to homeschool our kids whatever we want
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to do the sooner we will realize that we also have the power to elect people that uh we actually want
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who will make change with that comes the important chevron decision have you been following this the
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the chevron deference case that's going to the supreme court yes this is this i mean it's it's
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kind of they've tried to do it before but it's very interesting if this and this is a different
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supreme court obviously um if they overturn this chevron deference that means that um ambiguous laws
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that congress creates uh we can be for any agency uh which would be epa but it can also be doj it can
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be the the epa we're already seeing things changing there that uh congress will either have to clarify
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it or the supreme court and federal courts can step in and say no you're overstepping your boundary
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you're not following the law and the toughest one will be the department of justice of course this is
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the best of the glenbeck program well in a couple of weeks uh you could be a felon if you have one of
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those evil guns that for years have been totally legal you know the one with the pistol braces
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uh if you have one and you haven't told the government even though i would never tell the
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government uh if you have one of these which were perfectly legal until biden came in it was like
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hey what do you think we can take away some guns uh if you don't destroy that pistol brace uh you're
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going to be a felon a felon that's awesome now how many of these pistol braces are out there because
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we've talked about it for a while and you know they're kind of you know it's a niche kind of thing i
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think yeah yeah so how many do you think or it would be a lot if you saw if you know how many
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felons is the government going to make overnight a few hundred thousand few hundred thousand well
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you're close 40 million 40 million of these braced weapons are in circulation today that's more than
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ar-15s yeah 40 million felons the good thing is they can't arrest us all because they don't have
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the prison space yay uh you believe that uh no i did not know the number was that high yeah i don't
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i still don't even i will be honest don't even understand what these weapons are like i don't
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know i'm gonna bring i'm gonna bring my friends in i'll show you you have your friend has a weapon
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like my friend has a weapon he might be a felon soon you know but not here in texas because they
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did they did have a uh some sort of stay for texas mississippi in louisiana and i know you're
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disappointed now glenn because now you can't be the federal criminal you wanted to be i wanted to
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be you have a real desire to check out the inner workings of the federal prison system oh you got
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that right and i want you to know you don't have to be completely disappointed really yes because
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there's another yeah i can commit another felony oh there's so many there's so many ways for you to
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get into federal prison wow back there's a book that outlines exactly how to do this it's called
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how to become a federal criminal an illustrated handbook for the aspiring offender this is mike
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chase right okay i think he meant this to prove the point that we have way too many laws but i
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think it was almost tongue-in-cheek it's not like how to really become how to go to prison you could
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use it that way i think he meant it tongue-in-cheek i think soros da's could use this uh mike welcome
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hey glenn thanks for having me back you know i'm actually offended i'm offended that you think it
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was tongue-in-cheek i spent all this time illustrating the best ways to become a federal
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criminal and you think it's a joke i mean this is hard work well i i will say uh transporting a dirty
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or leaky egg oh yes that that makes me a criminal i know it's uh it is called a restricted egg in true
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classic federal government form they've given it a highly technical name but if you read the code and
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you get right down to it what they prohibited and made a federal crime is just moving around in quote
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interstate commerce with a dirty egg and the definition of a dirty egg in case you're confused
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is actually written down in a separate regulation and it is an egg with dirt on it so that that
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clarifies it for all of us an egg with dirt on it now do i have to cross state lines for this to be
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a weapon of mass destruction i have great news for you yeah that the federal government in all of its
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wisdom has developed the notion of interstate commerce to not require interstate anything
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and so that goes okay back to a supreme court decision yes wicked versus filiburn yeah and
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basically it says look it's in state uh it could still be interstate because you know look everything
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is ours and everything affects everything else and so all of these federal regulations that you would
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think require interstate movement really don't they just okay is it important enough for the federal
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government to get interested right okay so if i go to the store and i accidentally you know break an egg
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on the way to the car and i don't call in the hazmat team to get rid of that egg i just transport it
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to my house i'm a federal criminal your first call should be to me glenn i will represent you free of
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charge anytime break an egg but yeah and then i will come and we'll you know we'll do a proper session
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we'll make you a a high level cooperator on the the cracked eggs at your local grocery store i remember
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there was something in your book about uh spoons because of this i thought immediately my grandmother
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would be a a massive federal criminal because of her little she has to have those like these little
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like world's fair spoons mini spoons little mini spoon rack uh look out mr felon it's true it's the
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first thing i thought of too is like who has miniature spoons and it's always grandmothers yes
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a dying breed but you're right it's a it's been a federal crime for a long time to mail or transport
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a miniature spoon because the government is convinced that unless you can affirmatively prove otherwise in
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other words the burden is on you to prove a legitimate use for your miniature spoon they presume
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it's because you're going to use it for drug use and in fact there was this robust testimony before
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congress when the law was getting passed by a woman named joyce in the lepka and she said she was so
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proud to announce she had just gotten off the phone with the ceo of mcdonald's who had promised to stop
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distributing the mc spoon coffee stirrer because this would stem the tide of people using it to snort
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cocaine so oh my gosh forever a federal crime to transport miniature spoons i have to tell you
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now this would be wrong to do and maybe even a federal crime i don't know but you would know uh
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i'm very tempted to go to a you know some sort of a secondhand store where they got plenty of these
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things from all of our grandmothers and then just drop them in a car of somebody who i really don't
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like then yeah whistle blow and have that spoon confiscated you know what i'm saying yeah i mean
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i i think we should probably check biden's garage there's probably a collection of uh miniature spoons
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well they won't arrest yeah but they won't arrest him he's he can have all the spoons he could be
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he could do a video of him mailing individual spoons to every resident in america and he
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wouldn't get busted my guess is too if hunter biden has a bunch of miniature spoons they actually
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probably are used for drugs yes i'm saying probably probably so they have a they have an ability to
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wave their hand and say these are not the spoons you're looking for so you know what's amazing is
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this is the way and people don't understand this this is the way dictators become dictators and all
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powerful um they are there's so many laws on the books you know just show stalin used to or stalin's
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kgb had used to say show me the person i'll show you the crime and that's exactly right right so uh i mean
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if they want to get you you don't really have to because even like with the epa and everything that
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they've just thrown all these things on the books you could they could get you for anything well that's
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exactly right i mean it it actually doesn't matter what's a crime and what's not a crime anymore
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because my book and my project has always sort of identified that there virtually is nothing that
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isn't a crime there we have so many regulations 300 000 federal regulations that have a criminal penalty
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associated with them that what what what actually happens is congress and the regulators they
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abdicate all of their crime making authority to the prosecutor to the enforcer so every single
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criminal prosecution at that point is a product of prosecutorial quote discretion but that that becomes
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a problem because there's no uniformity there's no actual you know what it says on the seal that that's
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not justice that's that's win you know and and so that becomes a that becomes a problem because
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they can pick the defendant first and then figure out the crime later so is this why you started writing
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this oh absolutely i mean it i started writing it because when i was writing sentencing memos for
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folks that had been prosecuted i started trying to point out to the courts and say look how ridiculous
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it is that my client is facing 20 30 years for this because he could just as well be facing 20 or 30
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years for you know transporting miniature spoons or bringing a dirty you know rake across state lines
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or throwing away melons without having a good reason what wait wait what oh yeah oh yeah the produce
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destruction act you know if you have melons interstate melons and you throw them away for no good
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reason that's a federal crime so i oh man i am tossing all perfectly good melons
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into susan sarandon's susan sarandon's dumpster this weekend
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but that's exactly it i mean the the problem was i wanted to illustrate and i dedicated my book to
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congress because i think you know it's a funny book but the jokes are all theirs and i i basically
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wanted them to know you know you have to actually see in illustration form what you've done
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because i don't think the lawmakers know what they've done but they have unleashed this monster
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federal code well i think i mean that's why the reigns act if it's kept in the uh the bill for the
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budget that was something that uh i know mike lee has been pushing for and he got it in the bill
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hopefully will stay there that and the chevron case is they're huge because it forces that lawmaking
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ability back to congress so if you're stopped and you're charged with leaky egg it'll go to the
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supreme court and it'll be thrown out unless congress uh says yeah we want to keep that law
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right well that's right and look in in his quote on the back of my book mike lee said the scariest part
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of the book is how many of these crimes were created by bureaucrats not congress right so this this
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all represents you you say congress but this is all a massive departure from what the constitution
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said congress should do article one section one right they are the lawmakers but they said no you
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know what give it to the executive branch they'll figure it out and there you have senator mike lee is
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saying that he finds the scariest part of this the fact that the agency bureaucrats whose names you don't
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know you've never met these people they're the ones making the crimes not even congress so you know i
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saw that biden the doj dropped all charges against the soros backed massachusetts da because she was
00:35:39.600
lying under oath she was interfering on an election all things that we know she did but they just decided
00:35:48.120
the doj has just decided they're not gonna charge her with that meanwhile they are charging a guy who had
00:35:55.700
a lit torch uh because it's illegal to have a a lit object in virginia that could intimidate and uh you
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know he's not i'm not saying he's a good guy but wait a minute hang on just a second and it's all up to
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the prosecutors and their discretion this is completely out of control can you get a fair for instance in uh
00:36:23.440
in uh washington dc i don't think you can get a fair trial there can you well yeah i'll tell you dc
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when i was uh when when when i was just becoming a lawyer i i clerked for the u.s attorney's office
00:36:37.280
down there and and i remember watching jury trials in the district and i will say that they had one of
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the highest uses of jury nullification of any place but that's that's a far cry that's sort of the
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the day-to-day criminal prosecution when it comes to the political prosecution that you're talking
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about i i think that the the opposite is true you are seeing a much higher conviction rate and you're
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seeing a much higher prosecution rate of people for what are purely political reasons and so i i i tend
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to agree so on the one hand yes in in dc you're going to see a lot more people using jury nullification
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which is a good thing it's basically jurors taking the law back into their own hands and saying we
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disagree with this but on the other hand i i think that the wide perception and this is something i
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warned about in a wall street journal op-ed back in you know 20 uh i want to say 6 18 i said the rise
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of political prosecution is going to be completely unchecked and it is going to be you know more
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prosecutions we hear about are going to be political one oh you're already there happened yeah we're
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there um i've only got about 20 seconds so from defcon 5 to defcon 1 where are we on the scale of
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danger with our with the fbi and doj no we're there i mean we're there because because all that matters
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is trust in the justice system and i think that's at an all-time low so when that's at an all-time low
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defcon is at an all-time high all right thank you so much god bless and uh don't don't thank you for
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letting me know if i travel with a dirty egg it could be the slimmer yeah i was sent up the river
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with my dirty eggs glenn we just got this in from lynette she says dead serious currently traveling
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from iowa to nebraska with eggs i didn't wash yet a couple are pretty dirty where do i turn myself in
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after i deliver them to my 80 year old mother just just give us your address stop your car
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give us your gps coordinates we'll send in the feds