The Glenn Beck Program - January 25, 2023


Best of the Program | Guests: Adam Morgan & Dr. Taylor Marshall | 1⧸25⧸23


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37 minutes

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176.38808

Word Count

6,665

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6

Misogynist Sentences

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Hate Speech Sentences

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Summary

On this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, Glenn and Adam Morris of the Freedom caucus in South Carolina join me to talk about the current state of the Republican Party in the United States of America. Adam is a state representative from the South Carolina Freedom caucus and the chairman of the post and courier caucus.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 i don't know what everybody else is talking about on their podcast i was thoroughly enthralled with
00:00:05.200 today's yeah uh it was very good very good you did a good job today glenn congratulations i didn't
00:00:12.380 need a pat on the head hey buddy you're doing okay you're doing you're not even looking hey
00:00:16.260 man you're not even looking at me he's not even paying attention to what i'm saying
00:00:19.740 this is like what'd you say yeah this is bad we talk about actually this kind of thing
00:00:25.080 towards the end of the podcast uh we get into what's coming digitally um and eye tracking and
00:00:32.780 it is it's terrifying and it is right around the corner the reason why we got into that is because
00:00:37.380 of uh an oligarch in america uh and that is jeff bezos he is he one of our listeners uh has been
00:00:49.460 uh wrestling with him for a while and it they have the evidence the proof that the government
00:00:55.980 and bezos or amazon are one in the same it's a fascinating hour you don't want to miss
00:01:02.520 uh also we had in hour number two of today's podcast we uh we talked to a guy who's an an expert
00:01:10.740 on the catholic church uh the doctrine and the war inside the vatican and it's it's very da vinci code
00:01:19.580 um the pope the former pope just published uh right after he died he had published uh a book where
00:01:27.680 he exposes the darkness and the evil that he was fighting in the catholic church nobody's talking about
00:01:35.120 it we are this will be one of the only places you hear it and i started with something that
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00:03:24.200 welcome to the glenn beck program uh we have adam morgan on he is south carolina state representative
00:03:33.580 he is also the chairman of the south carolina freedom caucus what's happening in south carolina
00:03:38.960 is uh pretty amazing the post and courier said south carolina state house republicans see their
00:03:45.540 divide air on full display in contentious day state house tensions brewing between members of the hard
00:03:52.860 right house freedom caucus and their gop colleagues and spilled out into the open in a fiery floor debate
00:04:00.480 amid conflicting accounts of who's even a legitimate member of the ruling republican ranks okay this is
00:04:07.980 really uh quite an amazing story and i wanted to talk to adam about it i am a big supporter of the
00:04:15.960 freedom caucus i do not know the members of this particular freedom caucus but i think there should
00:04:21.240 be a freedom caucus in every state especially those that we think oh yeah that's all republican
00:04:27.020 uh-huh yeah well are they constitutional republicans or are they progressive republicans adam morgan is with
00:04:33.920 us now hi adam hey glenn thanks for having me on you bet so tell me what this all stemmed from
00:04:40.560 well uh we came back to session uh all the members of the republican caucus and we were given new rules
00:04:49.640 that the republican caucus had passed and in the rules there was a new uh loyalty rule that you were
00:04:55.860 not allowed to engage in campaign activities of any kind against other members and there was now a
00:05:02.380 signature line on the rules which has never been there before that basically is a promise that we
00:05:07.480 will agree to abide by adhere to and comply with uh these new rules that just kind of came out of
00:05:13.200 nowhere and uh my so you mentioned in the freedom caucus uh we're just not going to do that you
00:05:19.980 wouldn't say jawohl mein fuhrer and and make sure that you didn't step out of line with the party
00:05:27.260 wow wow yeah absolutely not and i think the the most shocking part is we we told them before the
00:05:34.840 rules were adopted we said look this is nuts our people in our districts are going to go nuts we're
00:05:39.380 not going to willingly sign away our first amendment right like you literally put a pledge in this this
00:05:44.820 is awful we're not going to sign it we can't sign it in good conscience and they ignored it didn't fix
00:05:50.280 it forced the rule change and kicked us out of caucus wow okay so conservative all the most
00:05:56.680 conservative members the hard right as you read earlier which i'll wear that as a badge of honor
00:06:00.660 yeah me too so let me um let me make sure that i understand you went in and they said everybody has
00:06:07.640 to sign this loyalty pledge is that what they called it no okay they're saying you know of course
00:06:15.000 the words oh no no it's just a just an agreement to abide by rules right but and the rules were
00:06:21.600 you have to sign it on your honor right and so you you had to sign it and if you signed it if there
00:06:28.440 was somebody who was just sucked as a republican and was a huge progressive republican you couldn't
00:06:36.500 speak out against it you couldn't help uh mention names that were running against that person or support
00:06:43.060 them do i have that right yeah most definitely not the the second part that was the whole question
00:06:48.200 immediately we're like well what is campaign activities of any kind and you know we had a big
00:06:52.980 discussion uh and those are technically under caucus confidentiality so i won't say what individuals
00:06:58.260 said but i'll just tell you the definition was uh hugely uh sweeping broad and sweeping and yeah you
00:07:06.540 you cannot uh criticize in in a way that would make people want to you know vote against a member
00:07:12.500 you absolutely cannot endorse if a great conservative challenger comes in and uh and think about this if
00:07:19.040 a republican suddenly comes in and says we want to defund the police we want to you know go to you know
00:07:24.460 third trimester abortions all that kind of stuff none of us not a single member who you know signs
00:07:31.360 that pledge can go out and call that person out and say they need to be removed we need a great
00:07:37.360 challenger or if they're challenged you can't endorse them or you can get kicked out of the republican
00:07:41.920 caucus in south carolina so one of the things you guys expected was that they were going to come
00:07:49.100 back and right away when they call the house into session they would approve the allotment of the
00:07:55.740 remaining over uh half a billion dollars in coronavirus relief funds that came from washington
00:08:05.180 and they were going to say yeah we're going to work on our sewers with this well that's not
00:08:09.140 coronavirus and what are you doing and you guys wanted to either um put money on it to make sure
00:08:16.880 that it was used in the proper way or just give it back as a tax rebate right yeah we had several
00:08:24.280 different plans and a lot of this is you know some people call them biden bucks the arpa funds that
00:08:29.200 right use for uh yeah transportation and different infrastructure things and you know we just had
00:08:35.340 several amendments that were common sense uh you know good policy and so we decided to make a stand
00:08:42.100 uh you know as i mentioned we're kicked out of republican caucus and it's just our freedom caucus now and
00:08:46.520 so we went at it and some of the uh amendments were shot down but we actually got one passed uh that i was
00:08:53.120 able to amend that that that banned members from pro hit or from profiting from the legislation oh geez so we
00:08:59.680 wouldn't be able oh yeah that was the amendment that i put on it wow you would have thought i threw a
00:09:03.920 grenade in that room you know by doing that oh my gosh oh my gosh it it passed so you know we had a
00:09:10.440 big win and now and in south carolina we've had a problem with that in the past legislators having
00:09:15.260 businesses that then go and get the contract profit off the legislation we passed every state now it can't
00:09:21.700 okay so so adam how many freedom caucus members are there in south carolina we have 20 members which
00:09:29.540 is actually a really large number and kind of shocking when you think about you know it's a
00:09:34.420 fourth of the republican caucus the fifth of the legislature and that they would that we could be
00:09:39.840 targeted and kicked out of the republican caucus is is really shocking unconscionable there's so many
00:09:47.560 words for it but i'll just say that you know i would have thought a year ago a month ago this could
00:09:53.040 never happen here in south carolina we're a ruby red state it just it just can't happen what's going
00:09:58.320 on is it's a battle for the republican party for the soul of the republican party correct and it's
00:10:03.200 happening here it's gonna i think it might happen in every state oh it's it's happening here in in texas
00:10:09.740 and uh not enough people that actually believe in the constitution and the freedom of texas
00:10:15.440 they're not standing up they're not it's not being reported anywhere and it this gop has gone
00:10:22.680 awry in texas big time if it's happening here it's happening everywhere so adam let me ask you so you
00:10:30.640 guys are out of the caucus how do you actually then fight for freedom and and and pitch this battle if
00:10:38.660 you're on everybody's enemies list yeah and we and we are on everyone's enemy list uh definitely
00:10:46.420 both the some of the republican caucus and definitely the democrats you know we have been fighting we just
00:10:51.520 really formed as a freedom caucus uh in the last year and since we did that we have had some really
00:10:57.960 big wins uh we went after a pediatric transgender clinic that was operating in a hospital where they
00:11:03.740 were seeing kids four to 18 uh to do therapies and counseling and even uh medical full medical
00:11:10.960 procedures to transition children on the taxpayer dime and we foia'd them put pressure and then
00:11:17.340 suddenly they announced and it's closed and and then we sued some road school districts that were
00:11:22.620 violating state law that nobody would do anything about nobody would deal with it and so now we've
00:11:27.380 gotten you know the programs that were indoctrinating teachers and how to teach and implement
00:11:32.320 crt those those are now removed and uh so we and then the amendment i just mentioned so there's
00:11:38.000 definitely ways that we could have legislative wins we just have to be willing to stand up to the
00:11:43.160 pressure um from the left and from from our own party so um are the people supporting you to the
00:11:50.240 people aware in south carolina that this is going on and have called the gop and said hey what are you
00:11:55.820 doing yes i think that a lot of people are aware and and there's more awareness uh every day you know
00:12:03.540 the the movement is growing people when they find out about this uh just really anyone in the party is
00:12:09.640 is scandalized and uh very much supportive of of what we're doing and you know we're getting the calls
00:12:15.340 and the emails stand strong don't cave in you know this is the real battle and and i know they've
00:12:21.560 been calling and and really that's what we need more of you know people in south carolina they need
00:12:26.240 to contact their representatives their republican representatives and say demand this rule change
00:12:32.940 because you know there's members in there who have said oh i didn't really know what was going on i
00:12:37.920 didn't know what i was signing you know some will even say thank y'all for fighting it's like you know
00:12:44.120 they're not openly fighting yet and i'm hoping they will but you know they're saying you know thank
00:12:48.740 y'all for fighting for you know for our first amendment rights and so you know i'm hoping that
00:12:53.820 that the members because there are still some conservatives in the room uh that they will
00:12:58.440 stand up and demand uh this to be changed because that's what's got to happen it's got to be the
00:13:02.280 members that are in there uh and and tell me why they didn't want you to post any image of the house
00:13:07.620 electronic voting board yeah that that one that one is a bit of a a mystery one of the house
00:13:16.100 leadership even use that in a speech saying that we should before we post we need to search our heart
00:13:22.000 and basically acting as though it's it's a bad uh you know negative thing for us to go and inform
00:13:29.120 the electorate about the votes you know that are going on the house because it makes other members
00:13:33.880 look bad and i just yeah i don't think i really can defend that that's so ludicrous to me
00:13:39.300 there's no transparency i i elected you put you in i want to see how you're voting i want to see
00:13:46.140 what you're voting on and how you're voting that's ridiculous exactly i mean it's a giant board it's
00:13:51.640 there for transparency so that everyone knows how we vote we should be on the record we should be held
00:13:57.580 accountable and brought to task for our votes and members you know can't the fact that they would
00:14:03.540 try to use social pressure to get people not to share because it makes others look bad it's like
00:14:08.400 well just stand by your vote or how about you just vote the way your district wants you to
00:14:12.880 people want you to and then you got nothing to hide right right it's that simple right uh all right
00:14:19.020 well i wish you the best of luck in south carolina let us know any updates if things are changing if
00:14:25.640 you you know if you need some more uh to rally the troops uh in south carolina let us know i strongly
00:14:32.920 urge you if you are in south carolina to call your uh state house your your state representatives
00:14:39.900 and tell them stop this this this loyalty pledge is ridiculous stop it i support the freedom caucus
00:14:49.700 it is so important that you do this because this for the very first time for the very first time
00:14:56.040 there are groups of people not only in washington but in our state house that are actually standing
00:15:03.480 and doing what they said to us they would do if we abandon them now we deserve what we get
00:15:11.300 these people are brave enough to stand we must support them if you're in south carolina
00:15:18.100 um make sure you call them thank you so much i appreciate it thank you glenn god bless for you bet uh
00:15:25.040 and by the way this is happening in in all of our states so look into your state and find those
00:15:30.960 fighters by the way this is this is what this this loyalty pledge said uh prohibit members from
00:15:37.160 endorsing or campaigning on behalf of anyone challenging a gop incumbent in the springs primary
00:15:43.720 elections it would prohibit lawmakers from posting images of the house electronic voting board on their
00:15:49.620 social media pages and from discussing the eternal processes behind house votes during
00:15:55.020 public appearances basically don't talk about anything you what happens here stays here i'm sorry
00:16:03.440 there's a gallery for a reason you're supposed to be able to be transparent now we just have
00:16:09.720 different ways of transparency now not everybody can go to the capitol and watch the proceedings and
00:16:15.560 we don't trust our journalists to tell us the truth anymore you don't have any right to muzzle
00:16:22.000 anyone on the floor the people have a right to know what's going on and don't ever ever ever sign
00:16:29.900 anything where you give up your first amendment right
00:16:32.360 this is the best of the glenn beck program
00:16:39.160 dr taylor marshall is uh with us now the author of infiltration um
00:16:49.000 um the infiltration of the catholic church the plot to destroy the church from within
00:16:55.620 this is a universal story now um doctor welcome to the program how are you
00:17:02.140 i'm great thanks for having me on god you bet um so we follow your your work a great deal because you
00:17:08.580 talk about other things other than um um catholic things but i want to make sure that people understand
00:17:14.940 right from the beginning we are not taking on the catholic church and this is not a catholic bash
00:17:21.420 session no not at all i'm uh i consider myself a catholic i attend mass every day sometimes more
00:17:29.540 uh i have a beautiful catholic family we have eight children and uh i i love christ i i love i love the
00:17:36.240 church and uh that that bothers me that there's these wolves in sheep's clothing
00:17:41.460 in shepherd's clothing even uh doing horrible things to children to bank finances to all kinds
00:17:47.900 of scandals and i think that the answer is is just to shine light on it and to expose it uh and so
00:17:54.160 that we can have some true change and get things back on track the way god wants it right and there's
00:17:58.440 going to be a lot of catholics that listen and will hear you uh like nancy pelosi uh who consider
00:18:04.380 themselves catholic uh that will disagree strongly with some of the things that you're saying but i think
00:18:09.240 that's the point um because there is this kind of feeling among catholics um about pope francis is
00:18:17.220 he a good guy is he a bad guy i i don't know if we'll ever get to that question but i want to talk
00:18:22.000 about pope benedict because this was very bizarre when pope benedict resigned i think it was the first
00:18:29.520 time right where he resigned in well it's the first time in 597 years okay in a while pretty rare event
00:18:37.820 yeah right uh and when he resigned it seemed very odd at the it was um preceded by european banks
00:18:48.940 pulling the plug on the vatican bank right yeah that's that's correct well actually if we go back
00:18:55.600 just a little bit more a few months before the vatican bank having a kind of a meltdown there was
00:19:01.560 the the butler of pope benedict his name was paulo gabrielli and he was leaking documents to the press
00:19:07.520 and to journalists and no one knew how this was happening and finally he was caught he pled guilty
00:19:13.440 and he was sentenced to prison uh in the vatican then pope benedict oddly pardoned him and that led to
00:19:20.100 a whole investigation that was that was headed up by benedict a secret investigation three cardinals
00:19:25.800 did it and they presented to him there's sources say one or two red binders of all kinds of filth in
00:19:31.860 it uh bank scandals uh there's rumored to be pictures of cardinals and drag in those binders all kinds of
00:19:38.640 nasty things and that all happened in december of 2012 and then january 1st of 13 the the vatican
00:19:48.440 museums cannot process money the atm machines in vatican city stopped working and shortly thereafter
00:19:55.740 we have the announcement of pope benedict that he's going to resign the very next day all those
00:20:01.160 banking problems were fixed they were resolved and by the way that night that pope benedict announced
00:20:06.880 that he was going to resign that's the night when the lightning struck the vatican which everyone
00:20:10.740 noticed which was a a sign for a lot of people so so this is right along the lines of what we're seeing
00:20:19.300 in the deep state in the united states we are seeing with the world economic forum which i know you are
00:20:25.440 very well aware of um are you are you is there any evidence that this banking thing was to put pressure
00:20:35.060 on the pope get out i think so and and the reason for this and you say deep state and and i really
00:20:44.480 think we need to everyone needs to put in their vocab deep church the same thing happening in the state
00:20:49.820 is happening in the church we call we can refer to deep state and we can refer to deep church and it is
00:20:54.120 not just the catholic church these people have been working behind the scenes for years
00:20:59.440 yes and and you got to remember that the the vatican is unique in that the vatican is its own
00:21:07.280 nation it's called a city state it has its own sovereignty uh technically vatican city does not
00:21:12.960 belong to italy it's its own micro country and as a micro country it has its own bank now i just want
00:21:21.340 the listeners to think about this if you are a drug runner a human trafficker a mob bot your biggest
00:21:27.360 problem is what do you do with all this money you've got to launder you got to get it into legit
00:21:33.900 means and move it around right and what if there were a bank on earth that belonged to a micro
00:21:40.140 nation that was not regulated by the eu that was not regulated or audited by anyone on the outside
00:21:48.400 well there is that bank in the world and that bank is called the vatican bank and so every crony on
00:21:53.840 earth wants a piece of that bank because you can legitimize illegitimate money and that's why the
00:22:00.480 vatican bank has had a problem of scandals almost every five to ten years since the 1960s the temptation
00:22:07.360 to use that vatican bank is high and it and the temptation for corrupt cardinals in the church to let
00:22:17.160 people get their fingers into that pie is also very high and that's only one piece of this whole puzzle
00:22:22.840 but i think that helps people understand why the vatican bank is constantly plagued with scandals
00:22:28.280 okay so let me make sure i understand the good guy here benedict is it your thesis that benedict
00:22:36.100 uh was working to end all that corruption and expose it and possibly even his butler was being used by
00:22:44.020 pope benedict to uh to out all of this stuff uh and go ahead yeah those are questions that were
00:22:52.680 we're still trying to figure out and i want to be very careful not to say you know pope benedict was
00:22:56.860 the you know super saint mastermind playing 4d chess i mean this is an old man who's in his 80s and
00:23:04.400 i mean it's very few of us have had the experience of being old and tired and surrounded and so i i don't
00:23:12.460 think we can make it just as easy as the good guys and the bad guys here but definitely pope benedict was
00:23:18.240 doing investigations and he appointed a man who's become very famous in the last few years
00:23:22.920 archbishop carlo maria vegano i love him who audits yeah he's great he's just he he's a good guy
00:23:30.260 he appointed him uh back in i think it was 2009 he appointed him um secretary general of the vatican
00:23:39.960 city governorate and this is sort of a a ruling body and he wanted him to look into the financial
00:23:47.420 accountability of the vatican bank and as soon as he was hired by benedict for this job he found
00:23:54.180 a a negative deficit of the equivalent of 10.5 million and then found in a surplus of of random
00:24:05.700 money that was in various bank accounts of 44 million he did that in just 12 months vegano did
00:24:10.840 which shows you that the people who were already in there were playing fast and loose with the
00:24:15.620 accounting so vegano exposed that immediately he was being called out by his superiors uh some
00:24:22.640 cardinals i won't go into all the names but if you want them i can give them to you that's all right
00:24:26.760 and he got in big trouble and so what did uh benedict do he took vegano and said okay look you're in hot
00:24:33.220 water here i'm going to transfer you to be the apostolic nuncio the ambassador to america washington dc
00:24:41.140 now i want you to go and do an audit on the american bishops in the american catholic church
00:24:46.300 that's what vegano did and guess what he uncovered the cardinal mccarrick scandal cardinal mccarrick
00:24:52.800 was the archbishop of dc who was molesting children embezzling money just a wicked judas of a man
00:24:58.560 vegano exposed that and then of course vegano has spent the last five years pointing the finger at
00:25:04.440 francis for corruption so all these characters are woven together to pretty small world in the back
00:25:10.900 the best of the glenbeck program
00:25:14.440 the founder of the riveter uh she is uh she's really i mean i feel stupid sitting in the same
00:25:25.360 room whether she's a graduate of emory university nyu school of law practice corporate litigation with
00:25:31.920 a focus on a high profile first amendment matters for over a decade in new york and then in seattle
00:25:37.160 mother of four contributor for inc the host of i heart radio's what's her story with sam and amy
00:25:43.980 she's raised 30 million dollars in venture capital venture capital to grow the riveter
00:25:48.660 uh she's also been published the washington post newsweek seattle times and um she's been all over
00:25:55.240 the world speaking fortunes most powerful women i mean she's overachieve much amy
00:26:01.500 no so amy you were on with this by the way welcome thank you glad you're here um and you're
00:26:09.420 sitting up taking nourishment that's always good uh you you came in here for the um uh targets of
00:26:17.680 tyranny special and we had been in correspondence for a while um because of what happened to you and
00:26:24.260 your husband in seattle with amazon and the feds can you quickly just recap that for anybody who
00:26:31.100 doesn't remember yeah so my husband worked for amazon web services for nearly eight years if you
00:26:36.180 don't know aws is a subsidiary of amazon where the internet lives cloud computing lives in these big
00:26:42.980 data warehouses across the world my husband worked in real estate helped scouting locations that would be
00:26:47.700 good to build data centers and a lot and projects along those lines he left amazon in 2019 and on
00:26:54.100 april 2nd 2020 the fbi knocked on our door we learned then that my husband was being accused at the time we
00:27:01.560 didn't know by who of a crime called private sector honest services fraud which is depriving your private
00:27:07.840 employer of your honest services at the time the fbi did not ask my husband what happened it was clearly
00:27:15.440 an accusation and two months later um the government used civil forfeiture to seize all of our family's
00:27:22.440 bank accounts your bank accounts your husband's your joint everything i mean to the point glenn
00:27:29.880 the doj went into our law firm's client trust account and seized all of the money we had paid our lawyers
00:27:39.280 oh my gosh oh my gosh and my husband at that point had never been charged with a crime
00:27:45.420 in fact he never was ever charged with a crime civil forfeiture is something the government can
00:27:50.300 use it's a tool and they can seize your money your home your safe deposit box squeeze you in every way
00:27:57.080 they possibly can and many times you don't get the money back you really don't and we really were kind
00:28:02.760 of told like don't expect to ever get the money back no matter what um that's craziness it is
00:28:07.820 king george you know declaration of independence style stuff well and the thing is you know it it's it's a
00:28:14.380 tool right it's a pressure tool so my husband had been accused on april 2nd 2020 and the prosecutors
00:28:19.600 wanted him to plead guilty um to a crime it was all very unspecific it was unclear and the crazy thing
00:28:24.920 is that largely what my husband was being accused of depriving amazon of his honest services related
00:28:30.480 to actions my husband took after he didn't work at amazon um but anyway um we did fight and you know
00:28:37.960 we we had four little girls um we sold our home we sold our car we liquidated our retirement we
00:28:43.700 borrowed money from family and friends to pay lawyers and to survive and didn't they go into
00:28:48.240 your family's accounts oh my gosh so dad my father yeah so my father was critically ill he almost died
00:28:54.840 he actually got a life-saving kidney transplant in april of 2020 and two weeks later the fbi emptied out
00:29:00.680 his bank accounts um my husband and i had paid for his medical care so you know it's he would have died
00:29:06.720 if my mother couldn't help him pay his medical bills so um many times people see this and go yeah
00:29:14.280 but there had to be something you you told the story of what that something is and it revolved
00:29:20.920 around a very expensive lawsuit from amazon so to preface this we had no idea what was going on
00:29:28.300 and the day the fbi showed up at our house my husband hired criminal defense attorneys and said
00:29:32.860 please call amazon and tell them i will come in and talk to them i don't understand what's going on
00:29:38.040 but i have nothing to hide and amazon's lawyer said we will only speak to him if he is pleading
00:29:42.940 guilty to a felony and at the time we were like what is going on i mean amazon's lawyers squarely put
00:29:49.540 the doj between the company and my husband very few companies have that kind of access to doj
00:29:54.500 and for an institution that's meant to be apolitical that's wrong it's just wrong um but what we learned
00:30:00.480 over the course of years and spending a lot of lawyer lawyer money is that in february of 2020
00:30:06.720 amazon broke a contract with a real estate developer and by the explicit terms of that contract unless
00:30:12.660 they could prove the developer committed a felony crime they were going to owe him over 100 million
00:30:17.400 dollars in damages the next day after they broke the contract they had their first meeting with the
00:30:22.360 department of justice they met with the department of justice over 100 times trying to lobby for
00:30:27.980 criminal charges the government spent countless fbi hours and prosecutors hours like essentially
00:30:33.700 doing amazon's bidding and what we do know is despite all of the things that amazon told the
00:30:38.440 government they never told the government that they had broken a contract and needed a felony or they
00:30:43.080 would be liable for 100 millions of dollars in damages so you decided to fight yes i mean you know
00:30:49.700 you're you guys are fighters you decided to fight it has cost you a great deal your husband nor you or
00:30:57.000 anybody else has ever been charged you thought this was kind of wrapping up and then you came on the
00:31:03.800 special and i think i may have said are you sure you want to come on and i know i said i hope nothing
00:31:12.300 happens because of this the day after coincidence i don't really believe in coincidences anymore but the
00:31:19.520 day after the department of justice subpoenaed amazon for all of the documents that amazon had that had
00:31:26.760 been produced in the civil litigation because after amazon failed to get criminal charges they sued my
00:31:31.880 husband and i'll note something about that that i think you know amazon didn't anticipate but usually
00:31:38.260 when you're accused of a crime you never get to see the communications between your accuser and the
00:31:43.260 department of justice and in this civil case because amazon sued my husband my husband was able to see
00:31:48.840 all those communications and they're very shocking and i mean to me as a lawyer i was floored by the
00:31:55.660 things that have been made public that i've been able to see why what what was seen um amazon hired
00:32:01.300 a former federal prosecutor from the eastern district of virginia they paid him millions of dollars to
00:32:05.780 lobby his former colleagues for criminal charges the former the current prosecutors in virginia
00:32:12.120 immediately ushered in amazon for a meeting they set up a meeting with the prosecutor's press office
00:32:17.560 because clearly this was going to be such a sexy and scandalous case they never checked anything
00:32:23.120 amazon said they never asked to see my husband's terms of employment or his non-compete like they
00:32:28.640 just didn't ask to see it amazon said they had paid this real estate developer 16 million dollars
00:32:33.520 amazon had paid the real estate developer zero dollars so nobody ever checked anything they just
00:32:38.780 went for it because it was really literally an old boys network i know you you know me just this is a
00:32:44.620 problem i mean we have an email that's now in the public docket in virginia where patrick
00:32:49.280 stokes amazon's lawyer asked his former colleague jessica aber who's now the u.s attorney for the
00:32:55.620 eastern district of virginia who just sued amazon's main rival google and pat stokes said to jess aber we
00:33:02.200 want to talk to you about civil asset forfeiture prosecutors in the eastern district of virginia have
00:33:07.520 not used civil asset forfeiture outside of a drug case in 13 years that i can find
00:33:12.640 so this is now being looked at again for the second time you know i really think that amazon
00:33:23.080 keeps pushing doj to try to do something and doj isn't doing anything except kind of you know just
00:33:29.560 the investigation just kind of hangs out there because it's a threat right and unless amazon can
00:33:35.620 get a felony conviction of this real estate developer they are going to be liable for damages
00:33:39.720 all right so um the reason and we talked about this you mentioned this but i have been seeing
00:33:46.760 more and more stories about people from the doj going to work right directly to the pentagon and
00:33:54.060 people from the intelligence agencies this is terrifying because there is a public private partnership that
00:34:01.140 you should be very aware of our doj our national security agencies all of them are using
00:34:09.380 amazon amazon amazon as their cloud bank when you have that you have control of the government or the
00:34:19.620 government has control of you at best at best if one doesn't have something over the head of the
00:34:26.520 other they're partners in everything that is extraordinarily dangerous it's incredibly dangerous i mean and the
00:34:34.380 thing that kind of blows my mind is that no one's even really paying attention to it i mean on amazon's
00:34:38.600 board they have the former head of the nsa keith alexander that's not a person with business
00:34:43.740 experience that should be on the board of a big company the sole reason i mean why else would he be
00:34:48.240 there other than to get contracts with the nsa and sure enough in 2021 the nsa quietly awarded amazon
00:34:55.020 web services a 10 billion dollar contract like it's something that we should all be very frightened of
00:35:01.740 it's happening across big tech it's happening you've read the twitter files you see it everywhere and
00:35:06.980 amazon is hiring hundreds hundreds hundreds of cia fbi former federal prosecutors and what just having
00:35:14.600 those guys in a high-tech company that has the information on each of us that amazon does that's not good
00:35:25.120 oh and there's no wall between that company and the government absolutely not right there's no wall at all
00:35:31.100 and you look at things like amazon is now getting into pharma right the amazon just launched a five
00:35:35.840 dollar subscription to get your pills now you're going to give all your health data to amazon it's
00:35:40.640 terrifying and jeff bezos he's an oligarch right if you looked at the indictment of the fbi agent
00:35:47.820 charles mcconigal it described an oligarch daripaska as a man of vast wealth with close ties to the
00:35:54.320 government that is exactly what jeff bezos is so what's next in this have you written off
00:36:01.160 ever getting your money back so we actually got our money back then so we pulled off what people
00:36:07.460 thought would be impossible wow yeah it was you should do a podcast just on how to do that i i know
00:36:13.200 lots of people who i know just driving through town they had cash the sheriff pulls them over the cop
00:36:19.940 pulls them over that's ours i mean you never get it back how did that happen so the government
00:36:26.880 it's such a strange process it goes back to the time of pirates but when the government seizes your
00:36:31.640 money and they don't charge you with a crime they then have to sue your asset so they sue your bank
00:36:37.460 account it's like u.s versus four thousand dollars at wells fargo and they do that because your assets
00:36:42.260 don't have due process so they can just avoid all due process so the government here sued our bank
00:36:47.920 accounts went to the court paused the case for six months went to the court again asked to pause it
00:36:52.940 for six months judge said judge said you only get four months this time they wanted to pause it again
00:36:57.500 and it wasn't going to happen so it was time to litigate and it was time for the government to
00:37:00.880 prove their case against the bank accounts and instead of opting to prove the case the government
00:37:05.240 gave us the money back unbelievable and how long was that from beginning to end when you lost the
00:37:10.920 money to when you finally received it again it was 22 months so for 22 months we had nothing we had to
00:37:16.620 figure out how to feed our four daughters my mother was amazing my mother was a public school
00:37:20.740 teacher worked her whole life and my mother kept asking don't they care about your daughters you have
00:37:25.120 a baby and i said mom they don't care she's like this is our government and i said they don't care
00:37:30.140 they care about jeff bezos and amazon they do not care that we have children to feed they did say
00:37:34.820 when they seized our money that if my husband pled guilty to a crime they'd give some back
00:37:38.660 it's such a transparent tool of corruption it should be gone it should be abolished
00:37:43.280 you