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00:02:31.500 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:33.640 You know, I talked to you a little bit about the story in the New York Times yesterday.

00:02:37.400 The First Amendment is out of control.

00:02:40.720 Tomorrow is Independence Day, and we should all review what freedom of speech is really meant for and what it is.

00:02:47.440 Now, it was written by a guy named Wu.

00:02:51.600 He's a law professor at Columbia, and he writes about tech and everything else.

00:02:56.140 And he says, First Amendment was a tool that helped the underdog.

00:02:59.400 But sometime in this century, the judiciary lost the plot.

00:03:04.220 Judges have transmuted a constitutional provision meant to protect the unpopular opinion into an all-purpose tool of legislative nullification that now mostly protects corporate interests.

00:03:16.560 So he's making the case that we've turned it upside down.

00:03:20.240 And I have to tell you, he makes a persuasive case here.

00:03:25.240 But he is wrong in the end.

00:03:27.020 And let me just skip to this.

00:03:29.320 He's talking about regulation of the Internet.

00:03:32.260 Such regulation is not always perfect, to be sure.

00:03:35.160 But it represents a legitimate tool which democratic governments can stand up to private power.

00:03:40.980 The next phase in this struggle will presumably concern the regulation of artificial intelligence.

00:03:46.540 I fear the First Amendment will be extended to protect machine speech at considerable human cost.

00:03:54.080 I 100% agree with that.

00:03:56.760 It's something I've been warning about for about three decades.

00:03:59.880 In our era, the power of private actors has grown to rival that of nation states.

00:04:05.800 True again.

00:04:06.880 Most powerful are the big tech platforms.

00:04:09.900 True again.

00:04:11.180 Which in their cocoon-like encompassing of humanity has grown to control commerce and speech in ways that would make totalitarian states jealous.

00:04:20.440 Correct again.

00:04:21.620 In a democracy, the people ought to have the right to react and control such private power as long as it does not trample on the rights of the individual.

00:04:33.940 Again, correct.

00:04:36.680 But thanks to the Supreme Court, the First Amendment has become a barrier to the government's ability to do that.

00:04:42.680 Free speech rights have been hijacked to suppress the sovereignty of humans in favor of the power and companies and machines.

00:04:50.700 Okay, so wait, but no, there's a difference between individuals and the government and regulations and suggestions.

00:05:02.640 You want to regulate, okay, regulate.

00:05:06.040 And let's have that not go through the administrative state.

00:05:09.520 Let's have that go through Congress.

00:05:12.080 Let's have that debate, a serious debate about it.

00:05:15.580 We can do that.

00:05:16.600 And I think the right of the individual is what will win in that if we don't have some closed-door, you know, Google writing the bill, but actual debate the way Congress is supposed to work.

00:05:34.060 Then I think free speech will win because it's a strong argument for the people.

00:05:40.420 But what the Supreme Court was talking about was, well, now, wait a minute, I think the government, you know, maybe, maybe we send it down to the lower court and have them re-examine this because should the government be able to just say, hey, you really need to, you need to silence these people?

00:05:59.940 No, the government should never have that power.

00:06:02.480 Ever, ever, ever.

00:06:04.420 However, freedom of speech is the cornerstone, is why it is the First Amendment, freedom of speech, freedom of press, the way that the people can stand up against the government.

00:06:18.620 They can stand up against the government.

00:06:20.680 They can question our government.

00:06:23.240 They can demand answers from our government.

00:06:25.800 They have a press that should be completely separate from the government to stand guard against the government.

00:06:31.500 Remember, this whole document was made to stop a government from becoming tyrannical.

00:06:38.680 So if you're afraid of, you know, Trump or Biden becoming a tyrant, your answer, the only answer should be return to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

00:06:51.540 The freedom of speech thing is so important.

00:06:55.440 Again, it was the first, but what it means is you can speak your mind without fear of censorship or persecution.

00:07:05.620 Now, that doesn't make you popular, but it does mean that the government and those powerful institutions can do nothing against you to stop you.

00:07:16.100 Would you like it if a church all of a sudden was in charge and said, you can't say these things?

00:07:21.820 I mean, how many people on the left believe in burning the flag?

00:07:27.860 You have a right to do that.

00:07:30.520 Okay, so why did the kid, oh gosh, where was it in Oregon?

00:07:35.760 The kid that, you know, burned rubber on the pride flag that was painted on the road, he was just charged with a felony.

00:07:44.600 A felony.

00:07:45.620 What is that other than a religion or a government saying, this is what we stand for and you will not tarnish it?

00:08:01.000 Excuse me?

00:08:03.020 I don't want that happening through a church.

00:08:05.260 I don't want that happening through the government.

00:08:07.160 I don't, I would like people to self-regulate, but things like peeling out on the pride flag, that happens sometimes not because of homophobia.

00:08:18.380 Sometimes it is homophobia.

00:08:20.180 Other times it is just, you know what?

00:08:22.940 I'm a rebel.

00:08:23.940 You are telling me and jamming this down my throat.

00:08:27.320 No.

00:08:28.380 And it's their only way for freedom of speech.

00:08:31.140 That's the case that is made for burning the flag. 0.57

00:08:33.940 Why is it different on the pride flag?

00:08:37.780 See, we have a, if we didn't have freedom of speech, we wouldn't understand anything.

00:08:47.460 Because the things that were said at some point or another that have made progress and pushed us into new areas have always seemed crazy or dangerous.

00:08:58.380 But they move us forward.

00:09:00.660 Well, I'm not talking about speech that moves us forward, makes progress.

00:09:03.800 I mean the speech that's dangerous.

00:09:05.640 Oh, really?

00:09:06.920 Because that's what every authoritarian and autocratic and theocratic dictator has always said.

00:09:12.520 The problem is, who's in charge of judging what's dangerous and not?

00:09:18.020 The church?

00:09:19.560 The government?

00:09:20.620 Academia?

00:09:22.000 Some other group or organization that would have the power to silence people?

00:09:26.240 Remember, the only speech that needs protecting is the speech that either the majority doesn't like or power doesn't like.

00:09:36.000 You know, the world was flat for a very long time.

00:09:42.880 And for centuries, that was the accepted view.

00:09:45.320 And challenging, it was seen as heresy.

00:09:47.520 And then thinkers like Pythagoras, and later during the Age of Exploration, Ferdinand Magellan and Christopher Columbus dared to propose and demonstrate otherwise.

00:09:59.000 It was their courage to speak out and to explore beyond the known boundaries that led to an understanding of what the earth really was.

00:10:08.680 Now, the power didn't want it.

00:10:10.560 The church didn't want that.

00:10:12.780 Church would prosecute anybody and persecute anybody.

00:10:16.600 You know how they got King Ferdinand to do it?

00:10:20.080 Gold.

00:10:21.220 I'm telling you, there's lots of gold.

00:10:22.740 And, you know, what happens if he's wrong?

00:10:25.920 He falls off the edge of the earth.

00:10:27.400 Big deal.

00:10:29.400 The idea that the sun revolves around the earth, or is it the earth revolves around the sun, that faced significant resistance.

00:10:41.700 Copernicus and Galileo, pioneers, revolutionary idea, went against the power of the time.

00:10:49.460 In 1633, the Catholic Church, which was the power, tried Galileo during the Inquisition and forced him to recant under threat of torture.

00:11:03.500 Okay, who's deciding what free speech is good, what's progress, what's not?

00:11:07.920 It's easy to see them in reverse.

00:11:10.800 You know what Socrates was killed for?

00:11:12.920 He was killed by the government.

00:11:14.540 He went through a fair trial.

00:11:16.640 You know what he was killed for?

00:11:17.420 Because he was corrupting the youth of Athens, because he encouraged questioning the established norms and beliefs.

00:11:30.140 Anybody who ever says, don't, you can't question that.

00:11:33.100 Don't question that.

00:11:35.060 You should run from.

00:11:37.360 Socrates was corrupting the youth because he said, question everything.

00:11:42.880 Giordano Bruno, I think it was his name.

00:11:50.240 He's the guy who said there's infinite suns and infinite worlds.

00:11:56.800 He was burned at the stake in the Inquisition of 1600.

00:12:01.660 Martin Luther, as well as Martin Luther King.

00:12:04.080 How about Thomas Edison and Nikolai Tesla?

00:12:08.500 The war of currents.

00:12:10.440 This was all about power, literally and figuratively.

00:12:14.260 Power and money.

00:12:16.940 Here's Thomas Edison, who is using the system to stifle innovation.

00:12:24.320 Edison wants direct current.

00:12:25.920 Because he was losing that battle because it didn't make sense and it wasn't working.

00:12:32.980 He had to discredit Tesla and through he did it through smear campaigns and propaganda.

00:12:39.780 He had public demonstrations where he got this sick doctor to go and electrocute animals using Tesla's alternating current.

00:12:51.040 He would take down horses, dogs, whatever you had.

00:12:55.760 He'd go to a state fair or a local fair and he'd execute the animals and saying, that's what Tesla wants to put in your house. 0.96

00:13:03.160 Thank God we weren't afraid of the scare tactics because that's what we all have in our house today.

00:13:10.720 Or at least we will for a while until they come up with something even better that you're not allowed to question.

00:13:16.880 If you can't challenge prevailing wisdom, if you can't propose a new idea, if you can't say, wait a minute, this doesn't make any sense, everything stops.

00:13:34.740 Progress depends on the free exchange of ideas.

00:13:38.700 And if you get rid of your opposition, life falls apart.

00:13:44.660 Even the Bible says, opposition in all things.

00:13:51.660 You have to have the metal and the flint.

00:13:59.820 It's when they rub together, when they strike against each other, that's when a spark is made and that's when things change.

00:14:08.000 This is what we're arguing about right now.

00:14:17.820 It should show you the health of America.

00:14:20.640 I mean, when you have a cold, the doctor might talk to you about, you know, okay, I want you to take this and this and this and just get some bed rest.

00:14:31.700 But when you have a cold and you have cancer, the doctor's not talking about the cold.

00:14:37.800 Okay.

00:14:38.740 He's talking about cancer.

00:14:40.380 Our cancer is so deep, we're down to the fundamentals.

00:14:46.380 We're down to, okay, you can't lose freedom of speech.

00:14:50.740 You can't lose your protection against your own civil rights.

00:14:57.120 We're down to the big ones. 0.65

00:14:58.920 That's how sick this body is.

00:15:00.620 Meanwhile, they want you to yell and scream about Biden or Trump or whatever.

00:15:07.340 It's the fundamental rights that are first expressed in our Declaration of Independence.

00:15:14.020 Something that was signed and agreed upon on July 2nd, finally announced to the American people on July 4th.

00:15:26.080 That we should be concentrating on.

00:15:28.520 I urge you this Independence Day, tomorrow, and I know your family's going to roll their eyes and go, Dad, please.

00:15:37.200 At least mine do all the time.

00:15:38.600 Dad, please.

00:15:40.940 Read the Declaration of Independence.

00:15:44.960 Tomorrow.

00:15:46.820 Read it.

00:15:47.720 Understand it.

00:15:48.540 Work through it with your kids.

00:15:50.620 Work through it with yourself.

00:15:52.700 It's still alive today.

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00:17:25.400 Now back to the podcast.

00:17:28.780 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:17:31.340 All right, so yesterday in New York, Donald Trump filed to stop the madness because of the new Supreme Court ruling and wanted to review.

00:17:45.180 This has now been delayed until September.

00:17:49.080 But again, I think they know it's not going anywhere.

00:17:51.760 They're just going to use it now in September to, you know, lay out all the evidence again right before an election, which would be, again, election interference, in my opinion.

00:18:02.260 But that's the way they do it today.

00:18:06.480 Andrew Bailey is with us.

00:18:07.900 He is the Missouri Attorney General.

00:18:10.560 He was on just a couple of weeks ago, and he said he was planning on suing New York in response to the unconstitutional lawfare against Trump.

00:18:20.820 Breaking news here on the program with Attorney General Bailey on what the next steps are.

00:18:28.860 Attorney General Bailey, welcome.

00:18:30.640 Thank you for having me on, and as always, your analysis is spot on.

00:18:35.580 There's a rogue prosecutor and a collusive judiciary in the state of New York who are absolutely looking to upend the national presidential election, and they're using lawfare to do it.

00:18:47.900 This is poisonous to our democratic republic and our democratic processes.

00:18:51.560 I can't let the state of New York sideline Missourians who want to hear from, engage with, and participate in a national presidential election for their chosen presidential candidate.

00:19:01.780 And think about this.

00:19:02.620 By statute, Missouri has electors that go to a convention who need access to a presidential candidate.

00:19:09.500 They have a job to do under the statutes of the state of Missouri, and they're being denied access to a presidential candidate because of the gag order and the lawfare illicit witch-hunt prosecution against President Trump.

00:19:19.920 The founders contemplated there would be disputes amongst the states, and they codified a method to redress those grievances.

00:19:26.020 Article 3, Section 2 of the United States Constitution sends that case directly to the United States Supreme Court.

00:19:31.480 I'm proud to report here on your program that we are on file at the Supreme Court.

00:19:36.200 It's going to be Missouri versus New York to stop the lawfare.

00:19:39.820 So what happened?

00:19:42.020 Because aren't they, like, aren't they, like, I don't know, flying in rich people's airplanes now, illegally and unconstitutionally, of course?

00:19:50.000 How do they, how does this happen during the summer?

00:19:54.440 Well, you're absolutely right.

00:19:56.200 Their docket has ended, their term has ended, but there's a special docket.

00:20:00.560 It's called the Original Action Docket for cases where the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction based on the United States Constitution, based on the plain text of the Constitution.

00:20:09.940 So there's a special docket, so the justices will be notified.

00:20:12.780 You know, there's a process that they go through where the clerks have to print all of the, the multitude of documents, distribute them to the different justices.

00:20:21.420 It has to be placed on the OAD docket or the Original Action Docket.

00:20:24.800 And then there will presumably be a period where the court will order a responsive briefing from the state of New York, and the case will proceed accordingly.

00:20:32.880 But, you know, I think that there's been a major shift in the conversation on this issue because of the immunity decision coming down and the extension of time on the Trump sentencing.

00:20:43.880 But I think you're also exactly right.

00:20:45.200 Look, pushing the sentencing to September is actually very dangerous because it means that the honors conditions of confinement, probation, house arrest, community service, whatever that looks like after the sentencing, are going to happen even closer in time to the election.

00:21:00.120 And either way, the gag order will remain in place between now and then.

00:21:04.580 Again, that harms Missourians' rights to hear from a presidential candidate.

00:21:08.620 That's why this case is so important, why we had to get it on file and continue to push it forward to redress the grievances of the people of the state of Missouri.

00:21:16.640 So two questions.

00:21:17.920 First of all, when do you expect to hear from the Supreme Court?

00:21:20.880 When could they rule on this?

00:21:23.240 Well, my hope would be that they would demand a briefing from the state of New York as early as next week.

00:21:30.240 Presumably, briefing would then appear from New York in the middle of July, and we would have a chance to respond to that briefing.

00:21:36.240 And then if I'm the court, I'm going to wait until September and see what happens at sentencing.

00:21:41.500 In other words, if the judge says we're lifting, if the trial court judge in New York says we're lifting the gag order and President Trump's on bench probation, this offense was not a big deal, and there are no conditions of probation.

00:21:52.840 Well, it's hard to explain that there's harm at that point.

00:21:55.220 Now, I don't think that's going to happen.

00:21:56.420 I think that you can look at the constitutional violations that are replete throughout this process and realize they want nothing more than to send President Trump to prison on the eve of an election.

00:22:07.980 That's why we've got to keep this case going and fight so hard to prevent them from interfering in the election.

00:22:13.940 And shame on the media. 0.73

00:22:15.420 Shame on the media for legitimizing this lawfare, for legitimizing this injection of this poison into our democratic process.

00:22:22.260 So, Andrew, do you have any other states joining you on this?

00:22:28.220 At the present time, Missouri went it alone because speed was of the essence.

00:22:31.720 We had to get this on file.

00:22:32.980 Now, I do anticipate that other states will have the opportunity to file amicus briefs in support.

00:22:38.020 But look, at the end of the day, this is about – I represent the state of Missouri,

00:22:42.020 and I represent the people in the state of Missouri who want to participate in a national election or being denied the right to do so.

00:22:48.400 But I do think that it has incumbent upon every state attorney general to determine how the lawfare and this attack on the national election is negatively impacting their people and to find appropriate remedies.

00:23:01.800 The typical criminal appeal takes 18 to 24 months, and it really only redresses an individual criminal defendant's grievance.

00:23:09.360 That process is inadequate at this time to protect the people of the state of Missouri and anyone who wants to engage in the presidential election nationwide.

00:23:18.480 What did you think about the judge pushing it out into mid-September and then saying, apparently, if it is even relevant at that time?

00:23:30.760 What does that mean?

00:23:31.360 Well, I think – I have no idea.

00:23:34.080 I'm concerned.

00:23:35.000 I mean, clearly, the judiciary – this judge is working in collusion with Alvin Bragg, who should have been disqualified from the case in the first instance.

00:23:43.700 They never – the judge should have never presided over the case, and the prosecutor should never have been allowed to bring these charges.

00:23:49.960 But those systems clearly failed, and that's my evidence that I think we have every reason to infer that they are hell-bent on sending President Trump to prison on the eve of an election.

00:23:59.500 So, again, this delay actually puts us closer in time to when we would be going to the ballot box.

00:24:06.360 And there's a doctrine in the law – it's called the Purcell Doctrine – that essentially the judiciary should not be making decisions on the eve of an election that could inject confusion into the election.

00:24:15.360 I mean, voters are already asking questions, can Donald Trump appear on the ballot?

00:24:18.820 Will we be able to go vote for him?

00:24:20.060 Is he on the campaign trail?

00:24:21.000 What's going on?

00:24:21.780 This is all intended to dampen enthusiasm and drive down Republican votes.

00:24:26.460 That's a direct attack on our electoral process, and now it's going to go on at least into September.

00:24:33.080 Andrew, thank you so much.

00:24:34.460 Appreciate everything you're doing in Missouri and for Missouri and for the country.

00:24:38.480 Appreciate you standing by the Constitution.

00:24:40.420 Thank you.

00:24:41.500 Thank you, Glenn.

00:24:42.260 Happy Fourth to you and your listeners.

00:24:43.680 Hey, happy Independence Day.

00:24:45.360 Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey.

00:24:48.120 Stu, what do you make of the – I mean, again, this is – we were talking about it.

00:24:57.160 This is alcoholic behavior.

00:25:00.000 What the Democrats are doing is alcoholic behavior.

00:25:04.700 They are grabbing onto the steering wheel, and they're just saying, no, it's going to do it my way, my way, my way.

00:25:10.780 And they are forcing everything their way.

00:25:14.260 They have made stuff up, changed laws, changed jurisdictions, did everything they could to get Donald Trump.

00:25:24.260 And they waited until he announced.

00:25:27.820 They wouldn't have done it if he didn't announce that he was going to run for president.

00:25:30.740 So they waited, and they were thinking to themselves, most likely, oh, this is going to be perfect.

00:25:35.520 It'll be in the running up of the election, and it's just going to be so sweet and so great.

00:25:41.360 Well, it's not working.

00:25:42.720 And they just are keep hanging on.

00:25:46.060 The same thing with Joe Biden.

00:25:48.500 If they would have done the responsible thing, the right thing, a year ago, and said, you know, there's a lot of smoke about his confusion.

00:25:58.680 Let's just make sure that that's not happening for the good of the country, for the love of Pete.

00:26:03.800 And they would have listened to the American people, and they would have said, Joe, you've got to do, because we have all these questions, you have to do either the primary or you have to do X number of interviews with tougher people, not people who are in the bag, with some tougher people.

00:26:21.340 And we have to see you perform, and the American people need to see you perform.

00:26:26.520 If they would have done the right thing then, they wouldn't be in this situation.

00:26:30.180 But now the entire thing is in chaos, and it's because they refuse to admit that they don't control everything.

00:26:41.320 It's the progressive Achilles heel.

00:26:44.460 You have to be so arrogant that you think your way is the only way, and it's the right way, and that you can control all of these different variables so it'll work out for you.

00:26:56.020 It never works out.

00:26:57.780 Yeah.

00:26:58.340 Yet again, centralized control fails, right?

00:27:01.980 It's this story of the past, you know, couple hundred years, really, since communism came around, we've seen this happen over and over and over and over and over again.

00:27:11.560 I, you know, you look at this and their new excuse is almost the most disturbing one, which was, this is from media and Democratic elected officials, and basically what they're saying to these reporters off the record is, we're angry at the aides around the president because they kept telling us he was fine, and so we kept believing it and repeating it, and now we look bad.

00:27:39.420 And it's like, I don't believe that.

00:27:40.960 Well, I don't know.

00:27:41.900 I think, I think there's an aspect to it, at least that's true, which is they, I think they knew what was going on, but they kept taking these words and being like, well, let's, you know, this is the spin.

00:27:54.820 This is what we're supposed to be doing.

00:27:56.420 We're dutifully going to report it to everyone, and now that it's fallen apart, they're sitting here blaming the aides, which, again, it's on you.

00:28:03.980 If you're a journalist, you're the one that should have been asking these questions the whole time.

00:28:07.820 So I've been doing a lot of research on progressive doctors, and especially those that influenced those doctors in Germany, and then those in Germany, and what they said during the Nuremberg trials.

00:28:22.380 It's the same thing.

00:28:23.640 It's exactly the same thing.

00:28:24.840 Well, I didn't know.

00:28:25.780 It wasn't me.

00:28:26.860 I was told that this was fine, and I was told that that wasn't happening.

00:28:30.940 They all knew.

00:28:32.260 They all knew.

00:28:33.720 All of the doctors knew.

00:28:35.560 They participated in it.

00:28:38.420 They couldn't be a doctor if you wouldn't participate in it.

00:28:42.480 So they chose that they wanted their lifestyle and their, you know, their position, and they chose to deny what they knew to be true, that killing people is killing people.

00:28:55.900 It's not compassion.

00:28:57.240 It's killing people.

00:28:59.040 And in the end, they all tried to blame somebody else, but they all knew.

00:29:02.720 There's no way you rode on that airplane with him.

00:29:04.820 There's no way you were walking the halls of the White House.

00:29:09.480 There's no way none of these people had a really well-placed source inside the White House that wasn't saying, geez, man, this is getting insane.

00:29:20.380 This is getting insane.

00:29:22.040 There's no one, no one that spoke to a member of the press.

00:29:27.060 The deal was they didn't want to hear it.

00:29:29.740 They didn't want to see it.

00:29:31.940 And now they're blaming it on others.

00:29:34.300 You're just as guilty as those who said, we could see it.

00:29:38.560 The American people said, the Democratic voters said, he's too old.

00:29:44.840 He's too old.

00:29:46.060 It wasn't ageism.

00:29:47.260 They were watching him decay overnight, every night.

00:29:54.380 You didn't want to see it.

00:29:57.200 Yeah.

00:29:57.500 And they kept that in play until the very, very end, until they couldn't do it anymore.

00:30:04.300 I mean, Glenn, one week apart was this call now for him to step down because he's obviously too old and the controversy over cheap fakes.

00:30:15.780 It was one week before this started.

00:30:19.340 A week.

00:30:19.620 Yes.

00:30:20.220 A week ago.

00:30:21.060 They were telling us these were all faked videos to make him look like he was incoherent.

00:30:26.400 And who believed that?

00:30:28.340 Who believed that?

00:30:29.420 Only the diehards that had to have it to be true. 1.00

00:30:33.320 Yeah.

00:30:33.660 You cannot force your will on everybody else.

00:30:37.780 You cannot control reality.

00:30:40.720 You can't.

00:30:42.040 It eventually all comes crumbling down. 0.98

00:30:44.300 You're an alcoholic.

00:30:46.080 You're addicted to power. 1.00

00:30:47.900 You're addicted to lies.

00:30:49.280 I don't know what it is. 1.00

00:30:51.140 But you've got to surrender to the truth or you're going to burn the whole damn thing down. 0.98

00:30:57.220 And I got news for you. 0.99

00:30:58.220 I'm, I'm, I'm a recovering alcoholic from an alcoholic family.

00:31:02.360 I've learned these lessons and I'm not going to be around you when you're burning the whole place down.

00:31:07.740 You're not burning my place down.

00:31:09.440 You're not going to do it.

00:31:10.340 And that's what Americans need to say.

00:31:12.480 Only the alcoholic can stop the alcoholic behavior.

00:31:16.680 We can point it out.

00:31:18.020 We can wish them well, but we are not going to allow them to burn down our house.

00:31:23.480 Because they're living in another reality.

00:31:28.760 No, no.

00:31:31.000 You can destroy yourself.

00:31:32.760 You won't destroy me.

00:31:34.580 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:31:36.120 So, President Biden has agreed to do a sit-down with George Stephanopoulos on Friday.

00:31:43.900 And yet, they are still pushing him to step down so they can find another nominee.

00:31:50.820 Um, they've created a huge mess in their own party because they refuse to, um, recognize the obvious that it's human to start to slip towards the end.

00:32:03.580 Uh, and I guess they can't wait until Friday, which says to me that he's in even more trouble than, uh, we've even seen.

00:32:12.780 Because if he wasn't, he could sit down with George Stephanopoulos and knock it out of the park and it would be over, I think.

00:32:20.000 Um, but somebody, you know, very powerful people and a lot of Americans want him out of office now.

00:32:25.960 After the debate, he has just, the White House has just made an announcement, which is, uh, to be clear, it is a report from the New York Times that, uh, Biden told an ally that he is weighing whether to continue in the race.

00:32:41.260 This is the first indication from anywhere inside the Biden camp that this is going on.

00:32:46.360 Now, assuming the Times is telling the truth, which of course is something we definitely have to consider.

00:32:51.080 Yeah.

00:32:51.200 And you have to, you know, if that would have come out two weeks ago, it would have been a different story.

00:32:55.440 Um, but now the New York Times is on the exact opposite foot and they are doing everything they can to get him out.

00:33:03.280 So I don't know if I believe that.

00:33:04.760 I don't know.

00:33:05.100 Because if this is actually an ally, then you would assume this is messaging approved essentially from the White House.

00:33:10.540 Correct.

00:33:10.960 Right?

00:33:11.440 Correct.

00:33:11.840 It does give essentially Biden an out here.

00:33:14.420 He's got an interview scheduled with Stephanopoulos, as you point out, on Friday.

00:33:18.100 And two campaign stops, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, those must go well is essentially the standard they've set for themselves here.

00:33:25.440 Uh, which is just really legitimately incredible.

00:33:29.000 Um, to the, to the extent that now we have a, we went through a nomination process.

00:33:34.820 Joe Biden won that nomination process.

00:33:36.360 He has participated as the nominee during a presidential debate.

00:33:40.180 This has already occurred.

00:33:42.080 Right now, the favorite to be the Democratic nominee on betting markets is Kamala Harris. 0.97

00:33:47.260 She has a 50% chance.

00:33:49.680 I think that's the only thing they can do.

00:33:51.760 Joe Biden at 29%.

00:33:53.840 He has a 29% chance to be the nominee of the party whose primary he's already won.

00:34:00.220 I mean, the fact that we're saying these things.

00:34:01.840 How they're going to get around this, I don't, they're talking now about literally speed dating.

00:34:07.760 Yeah.

00:34:08.440 Uh, uh, a primary election.

00:34:11.180 Yeah.

00:34:11.240 Speed dating a primary.

00:34:11.980 So they, oh, that's unbelievable.

00:34:14.260 Yeah.

00:34:14.600 Okay.

00:34:15.060 Uh, all right.

00:34:15.680 We'll give you a, go ahead, finish it up.

00:34:17.840 Yeah.

00:34:18.200 No, um, I, I was just, uh, I was just going to say like Donald Trump strategically has been

00:34:23.260 really, really good at essentially stepping back and letting all this unfold, right?

00:34:27.640 Like he's been, you know, doing a little truth social stuff, but he has not gotten in the way.

00:34:31.600 He's let all this go.

00:34:32.820 I'm starting to wonder whether he should start to get in the way.

00:34:35.580 Like, I think maybe he should release the vice presidential pick today to distract people

00:34:41.820 from this.

00:34:42.500 You want to keep Biden in this race.

00:34:44.620 I know.

00:34:45.240 I think he should just come out and say the one thing that would really make me a dictator

00:34:49.660 is, uh, Kamala Harris.

00:34:52.620 She would do it.

00:34:53.620 Anybody other than Joe Biden, I just want to be a dictator.

00:34:56.500 I think he should be like, you know what?

00:34:57.520 He's got my V, my vice president.

00:34:59.240 I'm considering Stormy Daniels.

00:35:01.420 I didn't, I wouldn't have necessarily thought of the, whatever you want to do.

00:35:05.580 I'm going to derail this right now, or he's going to have to face someone who can speak.

00:35:10.240 I'm so torn on.

00:35:10.920 Yeah.

00:35:11.380 I'm so torn on this because politically the right thing is to keep Joe Biden in for the

00:35:16.320 Republicans.

00:35:17.520 Uh, but for the country, it's just, it's just as, this is a horrible situation.

00:35:22.260 He can't step down just from being the candidate.

00:35:25.140 Uh, I mean, he, he really should step down and it would probably be the best thing for Kamala

00:35:29.980 because then she would just be the incumbent president.

00:35:33.100 All right.

00:35:33.340 Dave, I say is with us.

00:35:34.960 Dave is a good friend of mine.

00:35:36.460 He does a story core.

00:35:38.300 Uh, he is the founder and president.

00:35:40.100 If you don't know story core, good for you.

00:35:43.020 You probably haven't listened to NPR.

00:35:45.080 They've been doing, they've been featured on NPR for ever and ever and ever.

00:35:49.220 And they're not an NPR thing.

00:35:51.040 Uh, it's just featured on, on NPR.

00:35:53.400 Uh, Dave is a, just a, an amazing American.

00:35:59.700 Um, someday I think I might just have to do a podcast with just him, um, because of the

00:36:05.340 things that he has seen and done.

00:36:07.360 He's preserved the voices of real people.

00:36:10.900 All of the story core stuff goes to the, uh, the national library or the, um, uh, the, uh,

00:36:17.280 library of Congress.

00:36:18.200 And so it is, it's there forever, uh, to record the voices and the feelings of people as we

00:36:24.440 live it.

00:36:24.820 And he's got an announcement to make, uh, on story core, uh, take one small step.org.

00:36:32.120 Dave, welcome.

00:36:34.300 Glenn.

00:36:34.960 What did, what a day.

00:36:39.600 Can you believe the insanity that, and people are just going on there with their life?

00:36:44.000 Like, you know, it's what, what's the problem?

00:36:46.540 No, I'm just worried about getting some hot dogs for tomorrow.

00:36:50.060 No, you know, it's rough days ahead.

00:36:52.820 It's a crazy, crazy time.

00:36:55.460 And I appreciate you having me on because it, you know, it's, I think what, what, you

00:37:00.320 know, we've been friends for, uh, a bunch of years now and I'm incredibly, and I kind

00:37:05.740 of unlikely friends, right?

00:37:07.400 Yeah.

00:37:07.900 I know you did.

00:37:09.680 Uh, you did, uh, did you do a segment a couple of weeks ago about, uh, Teddy Roosevelt's

00:37:13.800 man in the arena?

00:37:15.420 Oh yeah.

00:37:16.080 I think.

00:37:16.480 Yeah.

00:37:16.700 Yeah.

00:37:17.620 Um, I, I don't know.

00:37:18.700 I, I've been thinking about that.

00:37:20.260 You know, it's.

00:37:21.540 Uh, I, I feel like together we've been kind of, you know, daring greatly.

00:37:27.880 Yes, we have.

00:37:31.300 Well, we both, I don't even know your politics and I don't need to Dave, but, um, we both

00:37:36.820 agree on American principles and we both know our country is in trouble and we both have

00:37:42.620 faith that the American people, if they can get past the politics, we'll see reason and

00:37:48.760 see each other again and we save our country.

00:37:51.500 Yeah.

00:37:52.620 I mean, that, that look, we both have exactly.

00:37:55.980 We, we love our country.

00:37:58.260 Like be in, in, in ways that we can't even express with words.

00:38:02.000 And, you know, we've both been fortunate enough to have a front row seat on who we are as Americans.

00:38:06.380 And we know that, you know, there's two ways this can go.

00:38:10.540 We can see each other again, or we can, you know, or, or, you know, we're going to leave

00:38:15.340 a country that we don't want to leave for our kids and our grandkids.

00:38:17.880 And it will be one of the greatest tragedies in the history of the world.

00:38:21.820 And this is a moment, you know, even in the last 60 seconds, we're in a moment, you know,

00:38:26.320 and it's time, it's time to say enough and it's time to, you know, it's time to stand up.

00:38:30.920 Um, and as you said, yeah, we, so you were, you know, when this idea of take of, of one

00:38:36.420 small step, which is people, Americans, everyday Americans from across the political divides

00:38:42.340 saying enough, talking to each other, getting to know each other as human beings, not talking

00:38:47.900 about politics and seeing that we have so much more in common than divides us, that it's

00:38:53.320 hard to hate up close this, you know, I came to you and this was kind of a twinkle in our

00:38:57.180 eye and, uh, the Glenn Beck show has been with us the whole time.

00:39:01.020 We launched, you know, we've tested this for years.

00:39:03.380 We launched locally a bunch of years ago.

00:39:05.460 We've had thousands of get Glenn Beck listeners participate.

00:39:08.820 And I, this is the first, uh, call that I've had.

00:39:12.040 We're going to announce this on Monday to the rest of the country, but it's, you know,

00:39:15.960 given the stakes of what's coming up in the, in the country, you know, we are taking this

00:39:20.960 national, um, on Monday, you know, Glenn Beck listeners have always been able to participate,

00:39:25.620 but other than Glenn Beck listeners, it's only been people in a couple of cities around the

00:39:30.100 country and now the whole country can participate.

00:39:32.280 And we're hoping that, that, um, that, you know, thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of

00:39:38.120 thousands of people will come together and see each other as human beings and, and realize

00:39:43.540 how much we have at stake here in this country.

00:39:45.440 If we can't, if we can't love each other.

00:39:47.920 Um, I want to bring in Michaela Hedrick.

00:39:50.160 She is the co-writer of my new book, um, chasing embers.

00:39:54.660 Uh, and she is, uh, 20 something that is, uh, just, she's a 20 something and a good one. 1.00

00:40:04.100 And she's actually, no, I, you know, you get dicey, Michaela, and you know it, um, uh, you

00:40:11.740 actually, uh, participated in, uh, the one small step program.

00:40:17.140 Yes.

00:40:17.680 Tell me your experience.

00:40:18.840 I participated twice.

00:40:19.840 The first time I was with a left leaning mom from Brooklyn who actually works for StoryCorps.

00:40:24.580 And the second time I was with an older gentleman who was afraid to talk to me because he's never

00:40:29.960 voted in his life.

00:40:31.140 And while I work for Glenn Beck, but what I found was, did he know that in advance?

00:40:36.380 He did.

00:40:36.700 I put it in my bio.

00:40:37.700 So we knew upfront what was going on.

00:40:40.100 But what I found is that we weren't afraid of disagreeing with each other.

00:40:44.580 We were afraid of being misunderstood.

00:40:47.020 We were afraid of being misjudged.

00:40:49.180 And so as soon as we understood together that we were there to hear each other, then

00:40:54.220 we could speak our minds without compromising, but also without fighting.

00:41:00.660 So, um, and, but did you talk about politics?

00:41:04.200 We did.

00:41:04.740 We talked about my first discussion.

00:41:07.420 We actually talked about abortion without ever losing our minds.

00:41:10.880 Oh my gosh.

00:41:11.200 Yes.

00:41:11.820 I was so blown away that we went there, but StoryCorps encourages you to go there in a

00:41:17.120 way that you're not trying to change each other's opinions, but you're trying to see

00:41:20.920 where are you coming from?

00:41:22.160 Why do you believe what you believe?

00:41:24.300 And at the end of it, I realized, okay, you're not a monster.

00:41:26.840 And she realized I'm not a monster.

00:41:28.700 And I, that was my deepest fears.

00:41:30.660 I was afraid I'd go in and I would be judged for being a hater or a monster, but the way

00:41:35.780 they facilitated it, we had to listen to each other.

00:41:38.320 And that, that does, you said, Dave, you can't hate up close.

00:41:41.700 You really can't.

00:41:42.160 Yeah, I tell you, Dave, I mean, the reason why I've been with you on this project from

00:41:46.860 the beginning is I've had hardcore communists who have come into my office before shaking.

00:41:53.860 They were so full of rage and, and anger towards me.

00:41:57.440 And I've sat there and I just listened to them and I tried to understand where they were

00:42:01.360 coming from.

00:42:02.140 And by the end, we've always walked away.

00:42:05.880 We don't necessarily agree with each other, but we've always walked away going, he's not

00:42:10.960 so bad, we're, you're not so bad.

00:42:13.840 And I'm sorry that, you know, that, that I've made you feel this way.

00:42:18.160 Or he was, I'm sorry that I misunderstood.

00:42:21.620 He started the conversation with me.

00:42:24.040 I've heard about you.

00:42:25.140 I hear people meet you and then they like you.

00:42:27.420 Oh, it's not going to happen to me.

00:42:29.600 And it was an amazing meeting.

00:42:32.480 But if you just stay cool, you find the humanity within each other.

00:42:39.220 Well, Michaela said it better than that.

00:42:40.840 I ever could.

00:42:41.560 And, you know, you, you joke about Michaela's, you know, a young woman in her twenties, you

00:42:45.680 know, we have biases there also.

00:42:48.060 I mean, she's a great American.

00:42:50.000 Thank you, Dave.

00:42:51.140 Finally.

00:42:54.760 You get your due.

00:42:56.080 You've been waiting.

00:42:57.200 Yeah.

00:42:57.640 You know, but what you get to, this is the core of the problem in the country.

00:43:00.840 And this is what, you know, what did Lincoln said, you know, we'll never be defeated from,

00:43:05.040 from outside.

00:43:05.580 We can only be defeated from within.

00:43:07.200 And the issue isn't that we argue with each other.

00:43:09.620 That's healthy.

00:43:10.680 What's happened in this country is we're living in a reality distortion field and we

00:43:14.580 can't see each other as human beings.

00:43:16.400 And we can't see each other as human beings.

00:43:18.800 That's what leads to the Holocaust. 0.96

00:43:20.760 That's what leads to Israel, Palestine. 0.96

00:43:23.000 We can't go there.

00:43:24.900 This, this, I mean, what, what, like we can either throw stones at each other or we can

00:43:29.360 pick up stones and build a better country.

00:43:31.000 And we're at that inflection point, Glenn and your audience that, you know, I've always

00:43:35.840 felt that, that media put to its highest use could be one of the greatest forces for good

00:43:39.780 the world has ever seen.

00:43:40.800 That almost seems like a joke now, given what, you know, but, but, but, but, but it's true.

00:43:47.100 You know, we can, we can create a better country together in this, there's, there's too much

00:43:52.260 at stake.

00:43:52.860 We've got to see each other as human beings.

00:43:54.520 We've got to see each other as human beings again, or all of this, you know, what are,

00:43:58.940 what our parents, what our grandparents bled for and died for is going to be lost.

00:44:03.800 So Dave, I know I've cut commercials for one small step that you air on, on different

00:44:09.640 formats.

00:44:10.740 Are you getting conservatives?

00:44:13.820 About to be aired much more frequently.

00:44:15.620 Yes, I mean, we are really, we are trying, we are going to need your audience to help

00:44:22.140 spread the word.

00:44:22.860 Yes, we are getting thousands of conservatives to do this.

00:44:25.740 Okay.

00:44:25.880 But we need more.

00:44:26.800 We need millions.

00:44:28.220 We need millions of people to do this.

00:44:30.640 I think, Michaela, you said this on why we're afraid of, of participating.

00:44:37.300 How'd you explain it?

00:44:38.260 I explained it that conservative people have been rightly conditioned to believe that when

00:44:43.660 somebody says a space is inclusive, they mean inclusive of everyone except for you.

00:44:48.880 But as a, you know, as a young 20 something, as we said, one of the redeemable ones though,

00:44:54.720 I, I've heard stories.

00:44:56.420 I've heard stories of an America where I have a Trump sign and my neighbor has a Biden sign

00:45:01.140 and we still go to backyard cookouts.

00:45:03.320 And if there's a big storm, we still take care of the elderly woman down the street.

00:45:06.860 And I'd love to see that America again.

00:45:10.420 And that's going to take also a special level of humility from us as conservatives that say,

00:45:16.260 look, I know we haven't been welcomed in these spaces before, but we believe that we all are

00:45:20.220 united as Americans still.

00:45:22.600 It's a special kind of bravery.

00:45:24.700 Yeah.

00:45:24.980 And I think there's nothing.

00:45:27.300 And that's, you know, it's, but that's America.

00:45:30.140 That's, you know, it's the greatest generation.

00:45:32.400 We can, we can be that again.

00:45:34.180 It is going to take bravery, but I mean, I can't, again, I don't even know I'm on the call

00:45:38.220 because Michaela is saying everything better than I can, but this is exactly,

00:45:42.100 it's exactly what it's all about.

00:45:44.160 We have.

00:45:44.520 So Dave, you're announcing this next week.

00:45:48.140 How can people get involved?

00:45:50.320 So we want, think of this as a July 4th resolution, which is a new thing.

00:45:58.000 Go to takeonesmallstep.org, sign up to be a part of this, get everybody, you know, to do this.

00:46:03.780 We're going to start, you know, we're rolling this out in anticipation of this election where

00:46:08.140 whatever happens, whoever the nominees are on the day after the election, half the country

00:46:13.160 is going to think it was stolen.

00:46:15.040 So it is not going to be a good moment.

00:46:17.320 So we need to strengthen those muscles that Michaela has, I didn't know she, I, when I 0.99

00:46:22.200 heard, I heard that, that one of my staff members told me that she had, she had done

00:46:26.520 an interview with one of your staff members and just gave me such joy.

00:46:30.380 You know, it was like, yeah, yeah, of, of the work we've done together.

00:46:34.900 So we, um, so, uh, we want every, we want you, everybody to participate, do it.

00:46:41.480 If you've done it before, do it again.

00:46:43.320 Let's just, we have to see each other as human beings.

00:46:46.000 Mother Teresa said, you know, we've forgotten that we belong to one another and, you know,

00:46:50.000 we have to remember that we do.

00:46:51.840 Uh, and I can't say it better than Michaela.

00:46:54.440 Okay.

00:46:55.040 Take one small step.org.

00:46:57.100 Take one small step.org.

00:46:58.860 Dave.

00:46:59.300 Thank you.

00:46:59.860 Michaela.

00:47:00.300 As always.

00:47:00.900 Thank you.

00:47:01.280 Na, na, na, na, na.

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