00:02:33.640You know, I talked to you a little bit about the story in the New York Times yesterday.
00:02:37.400The First Amendment is out of control.
00:02:40.720Tomorrow is Independence Day, and we should all review what freedom of speech is really meant for and what it is.
00:02:47.440Now, it was written by a guy named Wu.
00:02:51.600He's a law professor at Columbia, and he writes about tech and everything else.
00:02:56.140And he says, First Amendment was a tool that helped the underdog.
00:02:59.400But sometime in this century, the judiciary lost the plot.
00:03:04.220Judges have transmuted a constitutional provision meant to protect the unpopular opinion into an all-purpose tool of legislative nullification that now mostly protects corporate interests.
00:03:16.560So he's making the case that we've turned it upside down.
00:03:20.240And I have to tell you, he makes a persuasive case here.
00:04:11.180Which in their cocoon-like encompassing of humanity has grown to control commerce and speech in ways that would make totalitarian states jealous.
00:04:21.620In a democracy, the people ought to have the right to react and control such private power as long as it does not trample on the rights of the individual.
00:05:16.600And I think the right of the individual is what will win in that if we don't have some closed-door, you know, Google writing the bill, but actual debate the way Congress is supposed to work.
00:05:34.060Then I think free speech will win because it's a strong argument for the people.
00:05:40.420But what the Supreme Court was talking about was, well, now, wait a minute, I think the government, you know, maybe, maybe we send it down to the lower court and have them re-examine this because should the government be able to just say, hey, you really need to, you need to silence these people?
00:05:59.940No, the government should never have that power.
00:06:04.420However, freedom of speech is the cornerstone, is why it is the First Amendment, freedom of speech, freedom of press, the way that the people can stand up against the government.
00:06:18.620They can stand up against the government.
00:06:23.240They can demand answers from our government.
00:06:25.800They have a press that should be completely separate from the government to stand guard against the government.
00:06:31.500Remember, this whole document was made to stop a government from becoming tyrannical.
00:06:38.680So if you're afraid of, you know, Trump or Biden becoming a tyrant, your answer, the only answer should be return to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
00:06:51.540The freedom of speech thing is so important.
00:06:55.440Again, it was the first, but what it means is you can speak your mind without fear of censorship or persecution.
00:07:05.620Now, that doesn't make you popular, but it does mean that the government and those powerful institutions can do nothing against you to stop you.
00:07:16.100Would you like it if a church all of a sudden was in charge and said, you can't say these things?
00:07:21.820I mean, how many people on the left believe in burning the flag?
00:08:03.020I don't want that happening through a church.
00:08:05.260I don't want that happening through the government.
00:08:07.160I don't, I would like people to self-regulate, but things like peeling out on the pride flag, that happens sometimes not because of homophobia.
00:08:28.380And it's their only way for freedom of speech.
00:08:31.140That's the case that is made for burning the flag.
00:08:33.940Why is it different on the pride flag?
00:08:37.780See, we have a, if we didn't have freedom of speech, we wouldn't understand anything.
00:08:47.460Because the things that were said at some point or another that have made progress and pushed us into new areas have always seemed crazy or dangerous.
00:09:22.000Some other group or organization that would have the power to silence people?
00:09:26.240Remember, the only speech that needs protecting is the speech that either the majority doesn't like or power doesn't like.
00:09:36.000You know, the world was flat for a very long time.
00:09:42.880And for centuries, that was the accepted view.
00:09:45.320And challenging, it was seen as heresy.
00:09:47.520And then thinkers like Pythagoras, and later during the Age of Exploration, Ferdinand Magellan and Christopher Columbus dared to propose and demonstrate otherwise.
00:09:59.000It was their courage to speak out and to explore beyond the known boundaries that led to an understanding of what the earth really was.
00:12:25.920Because he was losing that battle because it didn't make sense and it wasn't working.
00:12:32.980He had to discredit Tesla and through he did it through smear campaigns and propaganda.
00:12:39.780He had public demonstrations where he got this sick doctor to go and electrocute animals using Tesla's alternating current.
00:12:51.040He would take down horses, dogs, whatever you had.
00:12:55.760He'd go to a state fair or a local fair and he'd execute the animals and saying, that's what Tesla wants to put in your house.
00:13:03.160Thank God we weren't afraid of the scare tactics because that's what we all have in our house today.
00:13:10.720Or at least we will for a while until they come up with something even better that you're not allowed to question.
00:13:16.880If you can't challenge prevailing wisdom, if you can't propose a new idea, if you can't say, wait a minute, this doesn't make any sense, everything stops.
00:13:34.740Progress depends on the free exchange of ideas.
00:13:38.700And if you get rid of your opposition, life falls apart.
00:13:44.660Even the Bible says, opposition in all things.
00:13:51.660You have to have the metal and the flint.
00:13:59.820It's when they rub together, when they strike against each other, that's when a spark is made and that's when things change.
00:14:08.000This is what we're arguing about right now.
00:14:17.820It should show you the health of America.
00:14:20.640I mean, when you have a cold, the doctor might talk to you about, you know, okay, I want you to take this and this and this and just get some bed rest.
00:14:31.700But when you have a cold and you have cancer, the doctor's not talking about the cold.
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00:17:31.340All right, so yesterday in New York, Donald Trump filed to stop the madness because of the new Supreme Court ruling and wanted to review.
00:17:45.180This has now been delayed until September.
00:17:49.080But again, I think they know it's not going anywhere.
00:17:51.760They're just going to use it now in September to, you know, lay out all the evidence again right before an election, which would be, again, election interference, in my opinion.
00:18:10.560He was on just a couple of weeks ago, and he said he was planning on suing New York in response to the unconstitutional lawfare against Trump.
00:18:20.820Breaking news here on the program with Attorney General Bailey on what the next steps are.
00:18:30.640Thank you for having me on, and as always, your analysis is spot on.
00:18:35.580There's a rogue prosecutor and a collusive judiciary in the state of New York who are absolutely looking to upend the national presidential election, and they're using lawfare to do it.
00:18:47.900This is poisonous to our democratic republic and our democratic processes.
00:18:51.560I can't let the state of New York sideline Missourians who want to hear from, engage with, and participate in a national presidential election for their chosen presidential candidate.
00:19:02.620By statute, Missouri has electors that go to a convention who need access to a presidential candidate.
00:19:09.500They have a job to do under the statutes of the state of Missouri, and they're being denied access to a presidential candidate because of the gag order and the lawfare illicit witch-hunt prosecution against President Trump.
00:19:19.920The founders contemplated there would be disputes amongst the states, and they codified a method to redress those grievances.
00:19:26.020Article 3, Section 2 of the United States Constitution sends that case directly to the United States Supreme Court.
00:19:31.480I'm proud to report here on your program that we are on file at the Supreme Court.
00:19:36.200It's going to be Missouri versus New York to stop the lawfare.
00:19:56.200Their docket has ended, their term has ended, but there's a special docket.
00:20:00.560It's called the Original Action Docket for cases where the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction based on the United States Constitution, based on the plain text of the Constitution.
00:20:09.940So there's a special docket, so the justices will be notified.
00:20:12.780You know, there's a process that they go through where the clerks have to print all of the, the multitude of documents, distribute them to the different justices.
00:20:21.420It has to be placed on the OAD docket or the Original Action Docket.
00:20:24.800And then there will presumably be a period where the court will order a responsive briefing from the state of New York, and the case will proceed accordingly.
00:20:32.880But, you know, I think that there's been a major shift in the conversation on this issue because of the immunity decision coming down and the extension of time on the Trump sentencing.
00:20:43.880But I think you're also exactly right.
00:20:45.200Look, pushing the sentencing to September is actually very dangerous because it means that the honors conditions of confinement, probation, house arrest, community service, whatever that looks like after the sentencing, are going to happen even closer in time to the election.
00:21:00.120And either way, the gag order will remain in place between now and then.
00:21:04.580Again, that harms Missourians' rights to hear from a presidential candidate.
00:21:08.620That's why this case is so important, why we had to get it on file and continue to push it forward to redress the grievances of the people of the state of Missouri.
00:21:23.240Well, my hope would be that they would demand a briefing from the state of New York as early as next week.
00:21:30.240Presumably, briefing would then appear from New York in the middle of July, and we would have a chance to respond to that briefing.
00:21:36.240And then if I'm the court, I'm going to wait until September and see what happens at sentencing.
00:21:41.500In other words, if the judge says we're lifting, if the trial court judge in New York says we're lifting the gag order and President Trump's on bench probation, this offense was not a big deal, and there are no conditions of probation.
00:21:52.840Well, it's hard to explain that there's harm at that point.
00:21:55.220Now, I don't think that's going to happen.
00:21:56.420I think that you can look at the constitutional violations that are replete throughout this process and realize they want nothing more than to send President Trump to prison on the eve of an election.
00:22:07.980That's why we've got to keep this case going and fight so hard to prevent them from interfering in the election.
00:22:32.980Now, I do anticipate that other states will have the opportunity to file amicus briefs in support.
00:22:38.020But look, at the end of the day, this is about – I represent the state of Missouri,
00:22:42.020and I represent the people in the state of Missouri who want to participate in a national election or being denied the right to do so.
00:22:48.400But I do think that it has incumbent upon every state attorney general to determine how the lawfare and this attack on the national election is negatively impacting their people and to find appropriate remedies.
00:23:01.800The typical criminal appeal takes 18 to 24 months, and it really only redresses an individual criminal defendant's grievance.
00:23:09.360That process is inadequate at this time to protect the people of the state of Missouri and anyone who wants to engage in the presidential election nationwide.
00:23:18.480What did you think about the judge pushing it out into mid-September and then saying, apparently, if it is even relevant at that time?
00:23:35.000I mean, clearly, the judiciary – this judge is working in collusion with Alvin Bragg, who should have been disqualified from the case in the first instance.
00:23:43.700They never – the judge should have never presided over the case, and the prosecutor should never have been allowed to bring these charges.
00:23:49.960But those systems clearly failed, and that's my evidence that I think we have every reason to infer that they are hell-bent on sending President Trump to prison on the eve of an election.
00:23:59.500So, again, this delay actually puts us closer in time to when we would be going to the ballot box.
00:24:06.360And there's a doctrine in the law – it's called the Purcell Doctrine – that essentially the judiciary should not be making decisions on the eve of an election that could inject confusion into the election.
00:24:15.360I mean, voters are already asking questions, can Donald Trump appear on the ballot?
00:25:48.500If they would have done the responsible thing, the right thing, a year ago, and said, you know, there's a lot of smoke about his confusion.
00:25:58.680Let's just make sure that that's not happening for the good of the country, for the love of Pete.
00:26:03.800And they would have listened to the American people, and they would have said, Joe, you've got to do, because we have all these questions, you have to do either the primary or you have to do X number of interviews with tougher people, not people who are in the bag, with some tougher people.
00:26:21.340And we have to see you perform, and the American people need to see you perform.
00:26:26.520If they would have done the right thing then, they wouldn't be in this situation.
00:26:30.180But now the entire thing is in chaos, and it's because they refuse to admit that they don't control everything.
00:26:44.460You have to be so arrogant that you think your way is the only way, and it's the right way, and that you can control all of these different variables so it'll work out for you.
00:26:58.340Yet again, centralized control fails, right?
00:27:01.980It's this story of the past, you know, couple hundred years, really, since communism came around, we've seen this happen over and over and over and over and over again.
00:27:11.560I, you know, you look at this and their new excuse is almost the most disturbing one, which was, this is from media and Democratic elected officials, and basically what they're saying to these reporters off the record is, we're angry at the aides around the president because they kept telling us he was fine, and so we kept believing it and repeating it, and now we look bad.
00:27:41.900I think, I think there's an aspect to it, at least that's true, which is they, I think they knew what was going on, but they kept taking these words and being like, well, let's, you know, this is the spin.
00:27:54.820This is what we're supposed to be doing.
00:27:56.420We're dutifully going to report it to everyone, and now that it's fallen apart, they're sitting here blaming the aides, which, again, it's on you.
00:28:03.980If you're a journalist, you're the one that should have been asking these questions the whole time.
00:28:07.820So I've been doing a lot of research on progressive doctors, and especially those that influenced those doctors in Germany, and then those in Germany, and what they said during the Nuremberg trials.
00:28:38.420They couldn't be a doctor if you wouldn't participate in it.
00:28:42.480So they chose that they wanted their lifestyle and their, you know, their position, and they chose to deny what they knew to be true, that killing people is killing people.
00:28:59.040And in the end, they all tried to blame somebody else, but they all knew.
00:29:02.720There's no way you rode on that airplane with him.
00:29:04.820There's no way you were walking the halls of the White House.
00:29:09.480There's no way none of these people had a really well-placed source inside the White House that wasn't saying, geez, man, this is getting insane.
00:31:36.120So, President Biden has agreed to do a sit-down with George Stephanopoulos on Friday.
00:31:43.900And yet, they are still pushing him to step down so they can find another nominee.
00:31:50.820Um, they've created a huge mess in their own party because they refuse to, um, recognize the obvious that it's human to start to slip towards the end.
00:32:03.580Uh, and I guess they can't wait until Friday, which says to me that he's in even more trouble than, uh, we've even seen.
00:32:12.780Because if he wasn't, he could sit down with George Stephanopoulos and knock it out of the park and it would be over, I think.
00:32:20.000Um, but somebody, you know, very powerful people and a lot of Americans want him out of office now.
00:32:25.960After the debate, he has just, the White House has just made an announcement, which is, uh, to be clear, it is a report from the New York Times that, uh, Biden told an ally that he is weighing whether to continue in the race.
00:32:41.260This is the first indication from anywhere inside the Biden camp that this is going on.
00:32:46.360Now, assuming the Times is telling the truth, which of course is something we definitely have to consider.