The Glenn Beck Program - June 24, 2024


Best of the Program | Guests: AG Andrew Bailey & Gene Hamilton | 6⧸24⧸24


Episode Stats

Length

38 minutes

Words per Minute

157.97467

Word Count

6,137

Sentence Count

392

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

Glenn Beck is joined by Ezra Levant and Andrew Bailey as they discuss the latest in the 9/11 conspiracy theories and more. Also, the registered nurse who blew the whistle on pediatric sex change operations in a Texas children's hospital is now being investigated, and so much more!


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 Wow, I don't even know where to begin today, Stu, on the podcast.
00:00:35.180 Holy cow, have we covered a lot.
00:00:39.000 We started with new videotape from CBS and 60 Minutes of apparently the Saudis being involved.
00:00:50.620 I mean, on record being involved now with 9-11.
00:00:55.040 Hmm.
00:00:56.060 Minor development.
00:00:57.520 Right.
00:00:58.300 20 plus years after.
00:01:00.000 Right.
00:01:00.400 What does that mean?
00:01:01.840 I'll tell you, and I think you're going to get an opinion you're not going to hear anywhere else.
00:01:05.600 Also, Andrew Bailey.
00:01:06.840 Andrew Bailey, he's the AG from Missouri.
00:01:09.160 He is now suing the state of New York.
00:01:11.480 Ezra Levant joins us.
00:01:12.700 He's up in Canada where he's up in Canada where he is being now investigated for a hate crime because he drove around in a truck, you know, one of those digital billboards that shows what's happening on the streets of Toronto with these anti-Jewish protesters.
00:01:30.800 Also, the registered nurse who blew the whistle on pediatric sex change operations happening at Czech Texas Children's Hospital.
00:01:41.060 She's now being investigated.
00:01:42.540 She's on to tell her heroic story and so much more on today's podcast.
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00:03:22.000 Now back to the podcast.
00:03:30.000 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:03:34.560 The Missouri Attorney General, one of the better Attorney Generals in our country, Andrew Bailey, joins me now from Missouri.
00:03:41.720 Hello, Andrew.
00:03:42.320 How are you?
00:03:42.800 Hey, Glenn.
00:03:43.600 Thanks for having me on.
00:03:44.500 Yeah, you bet.
00:03:45.080 You bet.
00:03:45.740 So tell me about this.
00:03:47.480 I read this last week when you announced it, and I'm trying to figure out how you can do that.
00:03:54.320 What is your standing to be able to sue New York?
00:03:57.980 Well, Glenn, somebody's got to do something to fight back against this unconstitutional lawfare that's depriving all voters, but specifically in my instance, Missourians, of access to and to hear from a presidential candidate in the heat of a national election in the most consequential presidential election in this nation's history.
00:04:18.620 And so Missourians are being harmed by the actions in New York that have taken President Trump off the campaign trail and will continue to take him off the campaign trail after sentencing and have silenced him through the gag order.
00:04:30.100 It's called parents' patriot.
00:04:32.020 That's the standing argument.
00:04:33.260 Essentially, Missouri has a sovereign interest in a national election and being able to participate in that national election.
00:04:39.760 And I will tell you, the founders contemplated just this kind of dispute when they codified in Article 3, Section 2 of the United States Constitution a method by which states could resolve differences with original jurisdiction of the United States Supreme Court.
00:04:54.100 That's where we're going.
00:04:54.960 When states have a problem with one another, they go to the Supreme Court.
00:04:58.160 It happens all the time.
00:04:59.300 And in this instance, Missouri has a real problem with New York's lawfare against President Trump.
00:05:04.440 So the Supreme Court going on vacation Friday night, when are you going to argue this?
00:05:13.000 Yeah, we're going to get it up to the court this week.
00:05:14.820 I mean, we've got to get it on file and put the marker down that the red states are ready to fight back against this kind of election interference.
00:05:23.860 This is an attack on our democratic process.
00:05:26.500 We've got to stop looking at lawfare in terms of individualized cases and start seeing not just trees, but the forest for what it is.
00:05:33.880 They have silenced conservative voices.
00:05:36.620 They have silenced President Trump.
00:05:38.660 They have censored free speech on big tech.
00:05:40.780 They have kicked President Trump off the ballot in certain states.
00:05:44.300 They've sanctioned him through civil suits.
00:05:46.700 And now you've got the crooked Department of Justice leading an effort at the federal and at two different state levels in order not to obtain a legally valid conviction of President Trump,
00:05:56.440 but again, to deny voters access to a presidential candidate.
00:05:59.820 And it's important to remember the First Amendment right to free speech applies not only to the speaker, but to listeners as well.
00:06:06.940 Every American who wants to hear from President Trump has been harmed, not only by the gag order,
00:06:11.840 but by the illicit prosecutions that take President Trump off the campaign trail and put him in a courtroom.
00:06:16.500 So when you – the founders were genius, quite honestly.
00:06:23.920 I have appreciated the separation of federal and state more and more as we go down this road on how states can choose to do their own thing
00:06:36.500 as the rest of the government wants to take those rights away.
00:06:42.240 But you say that we have to grab hold of the Constitution again and we have to restore the law in order.
00:06:50.960 So what does this actually look like?
00:06:53.260 What do you have to prove to win this case?
00:06:57.860 Well, as you pointed out, we've got to prove first and foremost that Missouri has a sovereign interest in Missourians participating on equal footing with other states
00:07:06.540 in a presidential election for a chosen candidate, a candidate that Missourians through the caucus process have chosen as one of the leading parties in this presidential election.
00:07:17.020 So that's the standing argument.
00:07:18.400 The second issue that we have to adjudicate is the harm.
00:07:21.500 What's the harm?
00:07:22.140 Well, the harm is, again, it's not only a speech issue, but an access issue.
00:07:26.380 When President Trump is tethered to a Manhattan courtroom for months at a time after sentencing, what's that going to look like?
00:07:32.920 Is he in a prison cell?
00:07:34.100 Is he on house arrest?
00:07:35.620 Is he doing community service?
00:07:36.980 Because all of those things take him off the campaign trail and deny Missourians access to a presidential candidate
00:07:42.140 and ultimately interfere with this presidential election.
00:07:44.860 And then it's the gag order again.
00:07:46.540 There is a strong presumption because of the First Amendment against gag orders.
00:07:50.800 And one of the things the court looks at in determining whether or not a gag order is appropriate
00:07:54.680 is whether or not speech will prejudice the defendant's right to a fair trial.
00:07:59.980 Well, the presumption against that gag order should be heightened in the middle of a presidential campaign
00:08:04.340 when you're talking about a leading presidential candidate.
00:08:06.720 And so it's not only that President Trump's right to speak out on these issues was violated,
00:08:10.780 but Missourians' right to hear from it.
00:08:12.480 We've got to fight back.
00:08:13.620 The founders contemplated this.
00:08:15.060 I would submit to you that we have not seen this kind of perversion of the law,
00:08:20.540 weaponization of government against political opponents since the Alien and Sedition Act of 1798.
00:08:25.820 And if you remember what happened, there was such a backlash against the Federalists that they lost all power in 1800.
00:08:32.620 I predict the same thing happens here.
00:08:34.440 This lawsuit puts a marker down and starts to make a stand where we fight back.
00:08:39.180 Have you gotten any other states to join you in this?
00:08:41.780 Right now, it's Missouri going it alone.
00:08:44.240 I'll tell you, we would welcome other states.
00:08:45.900 I think that for far too long, Republicans and conservatives have sat on the sidelines and watched this happen.
00:08:52.260 This didn't happen overnight.
00:08:53.680 This happened back in 2016 when the deep state suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop story
00:08:59.800 and then injected the Russian collusion hoax into the American body politic
00:09:04.180 that undermined President Trump's the first few years, attempted to undermine the first few years of his presidency.
00:09:09.240 And it has gone on in 2020 and now in 2024.
00:09:12.860 And we've got to start taking steps to fight back against it or we will lose our democratic republic.
00:09:19.060 What do you say to those people who say we don't have a republic, we have a democracy?
00:09:24.100 Well, they're wrong.
00:09:25.020 I mean, there's structure in place in order to mitigate against the capricious whims and tyranny of the majority.
00:09:31.580 And that structure matters.
00:09:33.280 And so things like original jurisdiction at the United States Supreme Court for disputes between states,
00:09:38.300 I submit to you as a little r Republican structural mechanism that, again, it's a timeless principle of separation of powers
00:09:45.040 and a balance between federal and state authority that matters to our system.
00:09:49.100 And I lament the fact that the left has jettisoned this traditional approach that we used to agree that we would elevate the rules of the game above the players and the outcomes.
00:09:59.420 But the left hates Donald Trump so much, they're willing to destroy our system of government to retain power and destroy a political opponent.
00:10:07.580 That is shameful.
00:10:08.360 We are looking at a country now that, you know, the left learns and they learn if nobody stands against them, nobody is willing to play hardball.
00:10:21.740 They'll play hardball every step of the way.
00:10:23.800 They did it with the boycotts of sponsors until now that's just accepted from the left.
00:10:33.340 They've done it now with the silencing on social media.
00:10:36.680 And their biggest one yet, I think, is lawfare.
00:10:40.320 And this is that they're going after the president's attorneys, putting a chill through the air.
00:10:46.760 What happened in Connecticut, I think it was last week, where the Bar Association of Connecticut said,
00:10:52.860 you can't speak out against this judge or they'll be held to pay.
00:10:56.960 This is when you're starting to go after the attorneys and you're using attorneys on your side to shut everyone down.
00:11:06.980 That's a that's a final stage of of freedom, is it not?
00:11:12.000 Glenn, I think you're absolutely right.
00:11:13.800 I think one of the most unreported problems with the lawfare is that the left has criminalized the practice of law.
00:11:21.460 Let's go to New York and look at the fact that essentially what they said was the false entries in the business record where President Trump paid his attorney to enter into a contract were illegal.
00:11:31.460 Well, certainly the founders understood that we had a right to seek counsel and they would have understood that counsel would assist with contracts because contracts often end up in legal disputes.
00:11:41.620 And so criminalizing the practice of law, again, it destroys the very foundational principles upon which our judicial system is based.
00:11:48.800 I mean, this is this it hurts President Trump today, but it also hurts voters today.
00:11:53.140 But it's going to hurt all of us down the road when we're denied due process, when we're denied the right to counsel, because those things have suddenly become criminal.
00:12:00.020 So this is not going to be something that is heard right away.
00:12:04.020 This is something that you're laying the marker down on the table for later.
00:12:08.980 We're laying the marker down on the table and asking the Supreme Court to put a stop to the lawfare against President Trump in the instance of the in the case in New York to allow press issue in order to allow President Trump to remain on the campaign trail and continue to court the electorate and talk to the American people and have look, the American people have access to their chosen presidential candidate.
00:12:30.520 So you're asking for an emergency hearing then before they absolutely.
00:12:34.020 OK. All right. I hope you win, Andrew.
00:12:38.100 I really hope and I applaud you for standing up for the system.
00:12:43.860 And it is it is time for all of our states to do this.
00:12:47.640 I mean, you know, I don't mind if we go and we vote and we disagree and you vote for somebody that I don't like.
00:12:56.300 I don't mind that. I don't mind if your guy wins.
00:12:59.220 As long as it's fair, I don't mind going after my guys if they're corrupt, as long as we go after your guys as well.
00:13:08.060 And they shouldn't they should stop being my guy or your guy when they're corrupt.
00:13:13.340 And I think that's what most Americans most Americans are still fair, but they have been so warped with what is true and what is not that I don't think they even understand what fair is anymore.
00:13:29.960 Andrew, thank you.
00:13:31.960 Thanks, Glenn. Appreciate you.
00:13:33.400 You bet. Andrew Bailey, Missouri, Attorney General.
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00:14:40.000 Vanessa Sivage is with us now.
00:14:44.260 And Vanessa, welcome to the program.
00:14:47.020 Thank you so much for having me.
00:14:48.660 Thank you.
00:14:49.340 Now, Vanessa, I don't know what I can ask you, what I can't ask you, because you're involved in legal action now.
00:14:58.400 So I just want to hear your story that brought you into the position where the government's now looking at you.
00:15:09.260 Absolutely.
00:15:10.680 Well, the story really starts in 2021.
00:15:12.880 I accepted a new position in a pediatric multi-specialty clinic at Texas Children's Hospital.
00:15:20.660 And, you know, at first, my background is in cardiology.
00:15:25.580 And so I was helping babies born with congenital heart anomalies and through a series of medical interventions and surgeries were saving their life.
00:15:36.060 However, and I just contrast that with the endocrine clinic where I started seeing perfectly healthy patients and teenagers with functional anatomy and we were harming them.
00:15:48.220 The hospital was turning them into a patient dependent on the medical system for life through puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.
00:15:56.800 And so I started to see this rise in transgender patients coming to clinic and specifically in something I feel like we don't talk about enough, which is teenage girls who are confused about their sex.
00:16:11.080 But not only are they confused about their sex, they're also suffering with depression.
00:16:15.460 And many of them are autistic.
00:16:17.380 Many of them are coming into the emergency room because they've tried to commit suicide and take their life.
00:16:22.380 And it was just very clear that there's so much going on and they're truly, truly suffering with just a variety of issues.
00:16:32.820 And that was really devastating to me.
00:16:35.940 So what did you, how did you get involved in blowing the whistle?
00:16:42.420 Tell me that part.
00:16:43.600 I know that a doctor who we talked to a couple of weeks ago, who is also under investigation himself now for blowing the whistle, Dr. Heim, he did an article.
00:16:54.800 He was anonymously giving information anonymously to Christopher Ruffo.
00:17:00.780 And he blew the whistle.
00:17:03.680 And when did you get involved?
00:17:06.760 Right.
00:17:07.020 Well, it was May of 2023, and I had contemplated quitting on a number of occasions because, you know, I was being asked to do things that were against my beliefs and my faith and would come home crying to my husband because I couldn't fathom what was being done to these children.
00:17:27.020 And it was it was in this time that I read Christopher Ruffo's article with an anonymous whistleblower who we now know is Dr. Etan Heim.
00:17:38.400 And, you know, I knew I had to come forward to corroborate his account to just affirm that everything that he was seeing was true because I was also seeing it where I was working.
00:17:50.520 And so that's when I came forward anonymously in May of last year and worked with Christopher Ruffo and just just provided a different perspective from an outpatient clinic nurse that, you know, transgender patients were being seen.
00:18:06.000 And it was true.
00:18:08.560 So when was the first inkling that someone knew who you were?
00:18:14.320 Yeah, well, you know, life went on as normal for a little bit.
00:18:19.280 And I thought, you know, I had done my part.
00:18:22.100 I had come forward.
00:18:23.480 I had I had helped expose what was being done in secret.
00:18:26.320 I felt like that was a redemptive opportunity for me.
00:18:31.480 And, you know, it was the evening of July the 24th of last year when we were having dinner with friends in our home.
00:18:40.060 We were laughing in the kitchen and I think we were making burgers.
00:18:43.080 And all of a sudden there's a knock on the door and my husband goes to answer it and he didn't come back right away.
00:18:49.000 And I just thought, oh, my goodness, maybe something someone's selling something, you know.
00:18:52.740 And so I go out and I to the front door and at my front door are two federal agents who are asking to speak with me about issues at my work.
00:19:03.140 And, you know, I think in that moment, I can say that time time just stood still and I couldn't believe I couldn't believe it.
00:19:14.680 And what was what was what was happening.
00:19:17.160 But they essentially said that I was a person of interest in an investigation where they were seeking to unmask the identity of this first whistleblower who we now know is Dr.
00:19:29.640 Heim.
00:19:30.100 But, of course, I had no idea who he was.
00:19:31.860 And I, you know, listened as they talked about how he had broken HIPAA by releasing, you know, patient confidential documents, which is not true, absolutely.
00:19:49.420 And I referred to him as a whistleblower and they immediately corrected me and they were like, no, he's not a whistleblower.
00:19:55.120 He's a leaker and he has broken HIPAA by releasing patient information to the public.
00:20:00.840 And I knew that they were lying to me.
00:20:03.200 Not only that, but then.
00:20:04.780 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:20:05.440 How did you know they were lying to you?
00:20:07.700 Because I had read Chris Ruffo's, you know, his his article and there was absolutely no patient identifying information on those documents.
00:20:20.140 Everything was blacked out and redacted.
00:20:22.540 And I knew that.
00:20:23.580 And so that's when I knew they were lying.
00:20:27.440 And so anyway, they continued and they said that they they threatened me and said they promised they would make life life difficult for me if I was trying to protect this, quote unquote, leaker.
00:20:37.480 They claimed that I was not safe at work.
00:20:39.800 They claimed that someone had given my name to the FBI.
00:20:43.080 And it was a very I felt very coerced and intimidated.
00:20:47.180 And they, you know, to to seal the deal, they said that they wanted my help to expose Dr.
00:20:55.360 Heim.
00:20:56.520 And, you know, I was I was never going to help them.
00:21:00.020 There was not a scenario under the sun in which I was going to help them.
00:21:05.040 And you didn't have the information at the time anyway.
00:21:07.380 No, yeah, I hadn't.
00:21:09.380 Again, I had no idea who he was.
00:21:12.020 This hospital has 20,000 plus employees like I do not.
00:21:16.400 I did not know him.
00:21:17.160 And so anyway, they they were they acted as if they wanted to be my friends.
00:21:23.920 But they said, of course, if you if you don't help us, we can't protect you.
00:21:27.920 And so it was it was very terrifying for me.
00:21:32.360 And they left.
00:21:34.060 And I just remember looking at my husband in stunned disbelief and shock at what had just transpired.
00:21:41.320 Um, they we we were we were so scared, but we also knew that they had crossed a line and we would not be intimidated into silence.
00:21:51.220 So everything.
00:21:52.200 So after that point, everything changed.
00:21:54.100 Did you have any moment at all?
00:21:56.220 I mean, having the FBI come into your home and say those kinds of things and say, we're going to make life miserable for you if you don't help us.
00:22:06.920 I mean, that's it feels like Stasi kind of stuff, quite honestly.
00:22:12.860 Um, was there a second at all that you went, oh, I don't want to be this person.
00:22:18.660 I don't want to be here.
00:22:19.300 I don't want to be here.
00:22:21.760 You know, um, no, no, no, absolutely not.
00:22:26.780 Because, um, you know, the hospital has a reputation of lying to the public and I felt like I was helpless and I was the only one who had these deeply, these, these religious beliefs that motivate everything I do.
00:22:48.340 And, um, I felt like I could no longer be silent.
00:22:52.120 I felt like someone, I know that I'm not the only nurse in America who feels this way.
00:22:58.580 I know that I'm not the only nurse who has seen illegal things happening in the workplace.
00:23:03.060 And so I feel a sense of responsibility to bring to light what has been done behind closed doors.
00:23:08.740 You, uh, I talked to a lot of people, uh, and some in your situation and, uh, I can hear it in your voice how, uh, nervous you are or how frightened of the situation.
00:23:29.220 You're not some, uh, you're not some zealot.
00:23:33.440 Uh, you're just a woman trying to do the right thing.
00:23:37.220 Can you talk to other nurses?
00:23:39.740 Cause as you said, there are other nurses that see it.
00:23:43.720 Um, and you said see illegal things happening in the workplace.
00:23:47.780 Can you talk directly to them and give them courage to speak out as well?
00:23:54.320 Yes, absolutely.
00:23:55.400 Um, you know, I believe that the saying is true, that courage is contagious.
00:24:03.240 Um, it just takes one person and the world, the world is in desperate need of people who will stand for what is good and right and beautiful and true.
00:24:14.220 And other nurses around the country must feel like they can come forward if they are seeing something illegal happening at the, at their workplace.
00:24:22.120 Um, you know, do no harm has to mean something medical professionals, you know, whether it's nurses or other or others, they just, I want them to feel a sense of responsibility to tell the truth about what they are seeing.
00:24:37.420 And that's regardless of the outcome.
00:24:39.260 Um, and so, um, regardless of the consequences, because the truth is always worth, the truth is always worth it.
00:24:48.260 Um, so I want for others to feel emboldened and to feel empowered to protect children from irreversible damage and lifelong regret, because ultimately it's their lives and their wellbeing that are at stake.
00:25:02.880 When you say you saw crimes being committed, you're talking about Medicaid fraud and, and how was that done?
00:25:13.640 Yes.
00:25:14.660 Um, you know, I, I started noting some discrepancies in the paperwork, um, some red flags that were very concerning.
00:25:24.280 Um, for one, I saw that the hospital was using Medicaid to pay for transgender treatment, and this is Medicaid fraud, plain and simple.
00:25:34.860 Um, the Texas Medicaid policy, which is, you know, available online, just clearly states that any medications or surgeries related to gender affirming care are not covered.
00:25:44.940 And so, uh, in essence, we, you know, I saw a healthy teenage boy who was being prescribed estrogen to feminize his facial features and sexual characteristics.
00:25:56.660 And likewise, a healthy teenage girl was receiving testosterone to masculinize her facial features and sexual characteristics.
00:26:03.800 And both, in both of these examples, the insurance listed on file with Medicaid.
00:26:08.580 So it wasn't like they were trying to conceal what was going on.
00:26:12.420 Um, this was easily, you know, it was available.
00:26:16.480 Um, but not only that, um, the hospital, you know, was using Medicaid to pay for transgender treatments.
00:26:24.060 But on several instances, I noted that the patient was intentionally misdiagnosed for the purpose of justifying the prescription of cross-sex hormones.
00:26:33.440 Um, and that's even worse.
00:26:34.880 Um, so to justify the medical need for medications like estrogen and testosterone,
00:26:41.460 the hospital was listing false diagnoses for these patients.
00:26:47.280 So, for example, um, a biological male was said to have a diagnosis of estrogen deficiency.
00:26:55.800 And this fraudulent diagnosis allowed providers to prescribe estrogen-based therapies to biological males in order to feminize their physical and sexual characteristics.
00:27:07.700 And likewise, with biological females, you know, a female was said to have a testosterone deficiency, which is ludicrous.
00:27:15.820 Like, you know, it's, it's clinically incorrect.
00:27:18.780 Um, but that then justifies the quote-unquote need to prescribe testosterone for a healthy female.
00:27:27.040 Vanessa, thank you.
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00:27:45.000 Wow.
00:27:45.560 If you missed a second of today's podcast, you need to go back and, uh, listen to it today.
00:27:51.420 This one is worth, usually, you know, you can listen to the recap and you get the highlights and you're like, okay, yeah, I get it.
00:27:57.360 I get it.
00:27:58.000 Glenn.
00:27:58.580 That trouble's coming.
00:27:59.720 Blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:28:00.680 Um, this one.
00:28:02.960 Jam-packed.
00:28:03.800 Jam-packed with stuff that I don't think you're going to hear anywhere else.
00:28:07.280 Do you?
00:28:07.820 I don't think so.
00:28:08.540 I mean, it's some really important stuff that I just don't think you're going to hear anywhere else.
00:28:13.180 And you can, uh, get it wherever you get your podcasts.
00:28:16.220 But, uh, make sure you look for today's podcast.
00:28:18.880 Now, on Friday's show, we told you something that neither Stu nor I remembered this.
00:28:25.760 Right.
00:28:25.960 Yeah.
00:28:26.240 Uh, it was on the front page of our show prep, uh, on the day that it happened back last fall, I think.
00:28:32.120 September, I think.
00:28:32.780 Yeah.
00:28:33.000 And, uh, we completely forgot about it.
00:28:36.060 Well, thank God, American First Legal, uh, did not.
00:28:39.340 Uh, these are the people that are going after the government on, uh, on really important issues.
00:28:46.380 And one of them is, uh, the targeting of average citizens.
00:28:51.520 What was happening was the, the deep state, uh, was weaponizing, uh, DHS.
00:29:00.080 And they started to release a few of these documents last week because of this court thing.
00:29:07.580 They, uh, they shut it down immediately, which is strange and suspicious because they don't ever shut them down.
00:29:14.760 They just relabel them.
00:29:16.340 But this was, uh, trying to get you to snitch on your neighbors, going in and influencing teachers to get their kids to snitch, uh, to get mothers to snitch.
00:29:28.780 I mean, it's incredible.
00:29:31.240 Uh, Gene Hamilton is here.
00:29:33.360 He's not only got the stuff that was released last week, but I think he has some stuff that I didn't hear about who they're labeling domestic terrorists.
00:29:43.220 Uh, welcome to the program, Gene.
00:29:45.680 Glenn, thanks for having me, sir.
00:29:47.320 You bet.
00:29:47.800 So let's start at the beginning of the story.
00:29:50.240 This was something that was done by, um, uh, the two former Clinton, uh, intelligence, uh, people.
00:30:00.400 Clapper and Brennan, right?
00:30:02.100 Correct.
00:30:04.120 And what was it?
00:30:06.020 So DHS has had an office of intelligence and analysis since its creation, um, in the Homeland Security Act of, uh, 2002.
00:30:17.440 Uh, so it has been around, um, it has traditionally been the least effective and, um, most certain, most in search of purpose organization you could imagine in the entire federal government.
00:30:31.060 Um, of course, it was stood up in the wake of 9-11 and the threat of, you know, attack, uh, attacks from terrorists abroad.
00:30:38.820 Um, but because of mission creep and because it had no actual purpose, it's the same exact entity that, uh, over the last 20 odd years has had routine, uh, issues with, uh, documents and policies that aim to target conservatives.
00:30:58.500 Or that describe conservative Americans or traditional Americans with traditional values as though they pose some kind of threat, uh, to the country.
00:31:08.200 So, fast forward to last year and Joe Biden stands up in advisory committees, um, of so-called experts to help this office figure out what it actually needs to do.
00:31:23.600 And he stacks this committee with people like, uh, John Brennan and people like James Clapper.
00:31:31.360 And, uh, they have meetings in secret behind closed doors and they start to try to scheme out based on their experience, based on their, um, political biases.
00:31:41.920 What it is that they think that, uh, this office should be doing, uh, to achieve its goals.
00:31:48.980 And so we, thanks to our litigation that shut this down, uh, at least in its prior form, um, this committee, uh, obtained all of their internal notes and all of their internal kind of, you know, documents and discussions.
00:32:03.700 And we started releasing these last week.
00:32:07.240 We're releasing another set today, uh, and we're going to release a set of information every single day this week.
00:32:14.500 But as a, you know, for example, uh, the group, and this is something that we released on Friday, described that most of the domestic terrorism threat now comes from supporters of the former president.
00:32:32.580 And so if that's your framing, and if that's your thinking, and if that's who is advising this committee at the Department of Homeland Security as to how they should do their job.
00:32:42.980 And the kinds of things that they should be focused on, uh, we all know that only bad things come from there.
00:32:49.420 Only bad things like getting, uh, you know, uh, neighbors to report on neighbors and kids to report on parents and all the kind of stuff that you would never imagine happening in the United States.
00:33:00.180 You would only traditionally think about happening in communist China or the Soviet bloc or other places is potentially going to be happening here in the United States if we don't make drastic change in the way that we do things soon.
00:33:17.520 So what is coming out today?
00:33:19.960 What are you releasing today?
00:33:21.180 Well, we've got a lot more of, uh, the, the, the organization's notes, uh, today that we're, uh, putting out, um, uh, related to their discussions, um, about, uh, domestic violence, domestic violent extremists, um, about how there were reservations before January 6th to, uh, engaging in monitoring of, uh, American chatter.
00:33:50.000 And things like that online in that house somehow now post January 6th of 2021, um, maybe there's an appetite, uh, for doing so.
00:34:00.260 Now this not, of course, not withstanding the fact that Congress has repeatedly, and of course we also have the first amendment, um, but has repeatedly refused to allow law enforcement and intelligence, uh, agencies to, to engage in these types of activities.
00:34:13.460 Are things that this group is now discussing, um, as potentially being within the ambit of stuff that should be looked at, uh, for the department, which is just shocking and alarming.
00:34:23.100 Um, there's a lot more, uh, coming and it will be out here very, very shortly.
00:34:29.140 Um, the, um, the, the thing that, um, really concerns me is these people believe it.
00:34:40.100 It wasn't like the notes I saw wasn't like they were had people going, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:34:44.900 This is way out of line.
00:34:47.300 These people believe it.
00:34:49.620 Um, and if you actually believe that the greatest terrorists are, in fact, I saw a report might've been from you guys that it is Trump supporters, religious people, uh, service members, and people who fly the flag.
00:35:07.540 Yep, that's right.
00:35:09.620 And same committee, same committee here is identifying those types of folks, um, as the greatest threats of, uh, you know, domestic terrorism to the United States.
00:35:19.720 Now, I mean, Glenn, there's another issue that is underwriting all of this, which is, it's not just that they're doing this and it's not just that they're, they view and they truly appear to believe that conservative Americans, um, pose the greatest threat.
00:35:35.820 But it's the same people advising the same department that's responsible for bringing in, uh, foreign nationals into the United States, including foreign nationals who are supporters of Hamas, who are, were going crazy on college campuses all across the country.
00:35:52.460 And do you think that this same, uh, Department of Homeland Security Committee, um, or any of the, or any of its, uh, entities within DHS are having discussions about taking action to stop these, uh, folks from rioting on college campuses, uh, for inciting violence and inciting terrorism, and actually finding ways to deport people who are supporters of terrorism from college campuses?
00:36:18.720 Because no, of course not. But they are more than happy to characterize and label, uh, conservatives, Trump supporters, uh, people with, uh, service in the military, et cetera, as being threats to this country.
00:36:33.540 And that should tell you everything that you need to know.
00:36:35.720 You know, we've changed the wording of fascism, which is the government, um, uh, allowing private citizens to own property and to own companies.
00:36:48.660 And they can keep that as long as they do, uh, exactly what they're told to do and play ball with the government.
00:36:54.800 That used to be called fascism. Now the Biden administration calls it a public private partnership with NGOs.
00:37:01.700 Um, and the public private partnership is usually where these things end up. They'll start there, they get shut down, and then they just move money and people over into an NGO.
00:37:13.980 Any evidence that that has happened with this?
00:37:17.920 Well, we haven't seen it yet here with this. That doesn't mean that it's not happening.
00:37:22.780 Um, it, obviously everyone, uh, every one of your listeners probably understands now that that's precisely the way, of course, that they managed to achieve their censorship goals.
00:37:35.720 Uh, at the start of the Biden administration was to outsource the censorship model to NGOs and to universities and to other, uh, nonprofits that were stood up
00:37:45.900 to engage in the pressure and, um, collaboration and collusion, uh, that resulted in American, uh, speech being censored by big tech platforms.
00:37:56.900 Um, and they did it through their allies, their outside allies, um, because they knew that they couldn't necessarily get away with it on their own.
00:38:05.160 And so they, they, they outsourced it. They put it out. There's a record, there's a pattern, a practice of them engaging in these types of things.
00:38:12.120 And so, you know, look, we're going to keep working hard, uh, at America first legal, uh, to explore and to expose, um, and to hold accountable, uh, those bad actors who would, uh, subject the American people, um, to violations of the constitution.
00:38:28.160 Thank you so much, Gene. I appreciate it. Gene is the executive director, senior vice president, general counsel of American first legal.
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