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Glenn Beck and Pat McAfee discuss the latest in the financial crisis, and how to deal with an out of control government. They also talk about guns and how we can fight back against an out-of-control government.
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Hey, Pat. Favorite, favorite news story on the show today. What is that? What would it be?
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Oh, so hard to choose. Yeah, yeah. Credit Suisse, perhaps? Yeah, I like that because it sounds like
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it's not happening here. Credit Suisse bank, possibly by the time you hear this, maybe it
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has gone over. Maybe I can guarantee you, you won't know for five years because the Fed doesn't
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have to report anything to us mortals for five years. But I guarantee you in five years from today,
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they will release that they have poured billions, if not millions, if not trillions into the market
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over in Europe. The market took a beating on the banks and Moody's downgraded our banking,
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our entire banking industry went from stable to, what is it? Danger? Negative. Negative. Yeah.
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But Glenn, that'll never happen. Well, it just did. So we got that going for us. Tonight,
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you got to watch the TV show. We'll have all of the information on what you're actually facing.
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And we'll tell you that not to scare you. We tell you that so you can mentally prepare and physically
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prepare yourself for the next phase of whatever comes. We had a lot on the show today. We also
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talked about guns with Ken Paxton and how do we stop an out of control government? Ken Paxton is the
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attorney general of the great state of Texas. And I think he said he has 38 cases against Joe Biden
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right now. He was 45. It is crazy how out of control they are. All right. That's all on the podcast
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to the Glenn Beck Program. Okay. So no biggie, no biggie. Russia and the United States got into
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a little squabble yesterday. Just a little drone situation. Drone was down. It was no big deal.
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Actually, international airspace. It actually isn't a big deal. Normally, it may become a big deal
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because we keep pounding our chest, which is not the smartest thing to do right now. By the way,
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so you know, if we do go to war, the Pentagon has its new strategic management plan out
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and it is, it's fantastic. It's fantastic. And I mean this sincerely, roughly one out of every six
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pages dedicated to diversity and climate change. So in fact, they're prioritizing climate and diversity
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and equity and inclusion as their short-term goals at the Pentagon. They want to make sure they have
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that ready to go by 2026. So one of the three goals focuses entirely on managing anticipated impacts
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of climate change. Like, I would think poverty might be one of those things, you know? But maybe not.
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Um, then the second goal out of the three, uh, is, you know, the broader diversity, equity,
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and inclusion. Hmm. And the good thing is what they're doing is they're going to department,
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they're going to a partner with the universities to be able to get new recruits to come in. And
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I would think the universities would be the first place I would go to find a soldier.
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Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's going to be, so don't worry if we go to war,
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all right, enough of that. Uh, uh, the new report out from the government,
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what are they worried about? Well, uh, they are quite upset that crash test dummies
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are not diverse enough. Oh, they're too white. Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen a,
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uh, a dummy of color. Have you? I haven't. Have you seen a dummy of color? I haven't seen
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a lesbian dummy either. No, that's, I haven't either. I haven't seen it either. I think some
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transgendered dummies who might be fat and black, you know, should be in the seats because they're
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people too. Yeah. So they need to crash just like white people do. Smash into the dashboard.
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Exactly right. Go through the windshield. Yeah. This is how, this is how crazy this is. You know,
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you're, you're, you're looking at the dummy. What the crash test dummy is supposed to tell you is
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how your bones and flesh will behave in a car accident. Okay. Not the color, the color of your
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skin makes no difference. But I thought we had learned that. Uh, so anyway, um, Debbie Wasserman
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Schultz yesterday, uh, said Americans are to blame for the fentanyl smuggling. Now I thought,
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I thought she was blaming people saying because the demand is high here. Okay. You want that highly
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addictive, deadly drug. And so, you know, that's why it's being smuggled and she would have a point,
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but no, no, no, that's not her point. Her point is that xenophobia stops border reform.
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What? And because we're so racist, we will not go for border reform. And that's why,
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that's why fentanyl is coming through. I just, I'm pointing these out. That doesn't even make sense.
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I'm pointing these out because I just, I want to find an expert anywhere on any subject that is correct.
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Okay. Stop listening to the experts. Stop it right now. By the way, Granholm has been, uh, she's, um,
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she's been asked to, um, to just, can you just define what you were talking about? Um, where we can,
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we can learn from China on climate change. What, what exactly is it that we can, we can learn?
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She said, uh, the Chinese have tackled climate change and they've been very sensitive and they've
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actually invested a lot in their solutions to achieve their goals. Now, if their goals are to
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destroy the West, I would agree with you on climate change. I, you keep using those words.
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I do not think they mean what you think it means. Uh, because I, I, well, I'd like to hear she,
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she hasn't answered. Um, but if you are in New York and you're the attorney general,
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okay, you're the attorney, you are the chief law enforcement person in New York. What are you
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concentrating on? Okay. I would say, you know, crime, crime, maybe the murder rate that is gone. No,
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no, no. The AG's office in New York is proud to host a drag queen story, our readathon this Sunday,
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from 11 till three. Um, they're going to have, um, the attorney general will be there, uh, drag
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storytellers and city and state elected leaders are going to be there. Hopefully they've invited
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a lot of three-year-olds to this event. Oh, it's going to be the safest place on the planet for
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your children. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course it will. So hopefully all of New York's children will
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be gathered. All of them will be there. Now you can't get tickets. Um, but, uh, you know,
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uh, it, all the, all the, all the people that are co-sponsoring this event are all Democrats,
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but, uh, New York city mayor, Eric Adams, uh, has previously praised the pack, uh, practice of
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having drag Queens, uh, read, uh, children. I, I would like to hear from the expert on what new
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information we have about how healthy that is, how healthy that is. I know it is, right? Of course I do.
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Yeah. It's the only reason they're trying to force this on our children is because they
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understand it's so healthy because the experts know things that we don't know. Okay. Well
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there, that's why they're experts, right? And it's not, the goal is not for just our children
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to be academically smart, but also emotionally intelligent and drag storytellers, uh, support
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that. I'm not making it up. I am not making it up. Meanwhile, a transgender pro fat doctor
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is furious that four thin white, uh, white, rich, able-bodied cisgender men were behind the movie,
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the whale after it won its Oscar award. I hate thin white cisgendered fat fat. Oh no.
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Non-fat. Non-fat. They're thin. Yeah. They're thin. They probably hate fat. Although they made
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a movie about- About a fat person. Fat person. Who won the Academy Award for portraying that person.
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Yeah. And it wasn't, it wasn't prosthetics. I thought it was. It wasn't. He gained a bunch
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of weight for that. Yeah. A lot of weight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would never, that would be the last
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role. Yeah. I would play that role and then it'd be like, you don't know what, I'm not gonna lose
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the way. Are there any other roles that were really bad, Mabel? Well, when you go from George
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of the Jungle where he was ripped, you know, at washboard abs to the whale, uh, you're gonna
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win an Oscar. That's gonna happen every time. If you were once, you know, super attractive,
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but you make yourself unattractive for a role, that's a lock for the Oscar. Sure. Sure.
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You know, you gotta go that extra mile. Yeah. If you are, if you're a model, a beautiful,
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beautiful woman, and you're willing to say, I want to play the Joker and I'll literally
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cut my face up. Right. You'll probably get an Oscar. You probably will. Because, you know,
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that's not, look, you're not, you're not doing anything. It's almost a sin not to cut your
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face up. You know what I mean? I know. Uh, you know, you say that's, that's mutilation.
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No, no, no, no. You're a consenting adult, but even if you were five years old, you make
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any cuts on your body you want. Mutilation. Where did that, where'd that come from? Where'd
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that come from? That's Bible thumpers. Oh, jeez. Christian nationalists.
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Yeah. You know, like, well, you, for instance. Me? Yeah. I'm a Christian nationalist. Christian
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nationalist. I didn't know that. Yeah. I didn't know that. Have you read the Daily Costs yet
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today? Because you, you need to. Really? I, no, I, I haven't. And dare I say, no one has.
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Nobody. I might be the only person who read this. Yeah. Yeah. No one has read that. This,
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here's the headline. This is very bad. Glenn Beck has purchased a trove of Roe documents,
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Roe v. Wade documents, for his revisionist history museum. Bum, bum, bum. Yeah. Ooh, it's scary.
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It, it is scary. Sickeningly. Uh. Is that your word or their word? It's his word. Yeah. Yeah.
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Uh. This is the exact opposite of what the seller wanted to have happen. Oh. Yeah. The exact opposite.
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Had I known that, I might have bid more. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Oh, I remember the days when Glenn Moody's will never downgrade the United States, which they did.
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Glenn, they would never. Our banking sector is the strongest in the world. Following the biggest bank
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failure since the financial crisis of 2008. Yesterday, Moody's investor service downgraded its rating
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for the entire U.S. banking system. They went from stable to negative.
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Okay. That's good. That's why your stock market is down about 600 points, uh, right now. Uh,
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and you look like you are on the verge of having bank failures in, uh, Europe. One in France. One
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is Credit Suisse. Uh, I'm surprised, uh, if Deutsche Bank is not involved in that, but I can guarantee
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you we are shoveling money towards Europe right now to, uh, stop the contagion, but it is coming.
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Please prepare yourself. Ken Paxton is here. He is the, uh, Texas attorney general, uh, and he's
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fighting, uh, to get an injunction to freeze the ATF stabilizing pistol brace ban. Uh, have we gotten
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that yet, Ken? Uh, no, we haven't. We're waiting for a ruling from the court. I'm, I'm pretty optimistic
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given that the, uh, ATF has no authority to, to regulate these, these pistol braces. So if they
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don't do an injunction, what's next? So then we would, uh, we would proceed to, um, actually trial
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to, to make our arguments in a, in a district court arguing that this, this should not be permitted.
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The ATF shouldn't be able to make up new regulations that Congress didn't pass. Um, we've been pretty
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successful. I think we've won about 80% of our cases against department of justice. So, you know,
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it always depends on the court, the judges, you never know what they're going to, what's going
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to happen on all the way up to the Supreme court. But this to me looks like a winner.
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So you had an executive order come out yesterday, uh, and he has, he has taken, uh, the federal trade
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commission. Uh, he has taken the justice department, um, you know, the Bureau of alcohol, tobacco,
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and firearms, explosives. Um, and he is, he is pushing to have all kinds of different changes
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made, but isn't this the same kind of thing? This, that these changes cannot go through these
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agencies. If you're, if you're talking about a right, it's got to go through Congress. Does
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it not? Oh yeah. So this is what he's been doing from day one when he announced that, you
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know, we weren't going to deport people anymore. Uh, it's, it's why we have 45 lawsuits against
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him because he's doing this in all kinds of different areas. And to, to have his agencies
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or his executive orders come out on background checks that Congress, he claims failed to do
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that suddenly now, if Congress doesn't deal with it, I'll just step in and do it. That's not the
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way the system works. He has to work with Congress. He wants to regulate more. If he wants to somehow
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affect our second amendment rights, either has to pass a constitutional amendment or, you know,
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work around the edges of that amendment and work with Congress. He can't just do it on his
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own. So are we going to see, I mean, I'm, I'm sorry, cause I know how hard you, you and others
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are working. Um, you know, you've got, you really do have 45 lawsuits against him right now. Do you
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not? That's correct. Uh, they have, they've sued us like eight times. So we're, we're involved in
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over 50 lawsuits with the federal government right now. That is crazy. Um, it, I'm just, you know,
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we seem to be running out of time and they just keep doing these things and it gets worse and worse
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and worse. Do you see a time when one of these cases will say enough is enough of all of this stuff?
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Cause it's really the same case over and over again, isn't it?
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Yeah, it really is. Whether you're dealing with the second amendment, whether you're dealing with
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the first amendment, whether we're dealing with whatever, uh, immigration, it's the same case
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over and over because it's him looking at laws, knowing he can't pass a change that the people
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who elected our representatives are not going to vote for that. And so he makes his own decision
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to be an Imperial president. That's what we're talking about. And the problem with the court system
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is it's not fast. It is not designed to be fast. It is because of all the litigation going on.
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It's, it's a, it's a slow process. So I think you're going to, you're going to need all,
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you're going to need Congress to step up. You're going to need, uh, you're going to need
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state legislatures to step up. Like I'm encouraging my legislature right now to, to pass something
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that will allow me to get sued by the federal government over the immigration issues. So we
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can take that back up and try to overturn the Arizona, the U, uh, USB Arizona, which said that
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states can't pass through on immigration laws, which is insane because the results affect us
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more than it does the federal government. So what are they responding on that? Are they,
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is, do you have any support in the house and the Senate? Uh, it's, uh, I, I'm, there's a,
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there's a house bill and a Senate bill. I'm, we're looking at both of those. I'm actually
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going to go testify in front of the border security committee tomorrow about, about this very issue.
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And so, yeah, I think they've, they've been listening to what, what I've been saying.
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They've been listening to what others have been saying. I think they are going to try to pass
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something that will basically challenge, uh, what was done by, you know, justice Kennedy,
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justice Roberts, and three liberal judges where they said that Arizona couldn't pass their own
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immigration laws. And we can see the consequences of that. That cannot be the right result. It
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cannot be that states have to watch the federal government, not enforce laws, and then come and
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say, well, you can't protect yourself. That doesn't make any sense for states.
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So, um, let me go back to putting them all together. Um, I was just looking through some
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documents on Roe versus Wade and, uh, it wasn't just Roe versus Wade. They were trying to drag in
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a couple of other cases as well to make a, a fatter, more robust kind of argument is, is there nothing we
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can link together out of all of these lawsuits and, and bring to the court and say, look, the,
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this is the same thing. It's an abuse of, of power.
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Yeah. I mean, there's, there's no doubt that we can do that, but typically what, and this is just
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the way the Supreme court will work. So they like things narrowly defined. They like to make their
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decisions based, and this is Robert's, uh, focus. He, he likes to confine things to the most narrow
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result possible. And so we're sort of forced into making more narrow arguments about that specific
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violation of law as opposed to trying to make it broader. It just doesn't seem to really work with
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Roberts and the Supreme court. Well, that's unfortunate for us because I mean, I, I like them
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to be very, very narrow as well, but they're using that against us right now. They're, they're just,
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they'll abuse it in one very narrow way and then they'll come back and abuse it in another very
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narrow way. And they're using our strength against us. No, it's absolutely true. And that's why,
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you know, that's why elections matter. I mean, we've got a president that doesn't have any respect
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for federal law, state law, the U S constitution. None of that matters to him. He's he'll, he'll walk
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around it. He calls it, they call it workarounds, work around the constitution, work around federal
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law. They have no respect for it. They're, they're literally no different than, you know, we're no
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different than what happens in China or, or, or, uh, as far as our presidency, this is a very similar
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to what dictators do. Yeah. So, um, may I ask you, and I know you, you haven't been, you know,
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doing any more than casually following this, I'm sure, but does it, doesn't this fit the same kind
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of thing that they just did with the, uh, FDIC. I mean, you know, Congress has ruled it's, and they've,
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they've raised this amount several times, uh, since what, 1936. And, uh, they've raised it to 250,000.
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And then the treasury just goes in and says, no, we're going to take care of all of it.
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I mean, you can't do that. Can you? Uh, I don't know that issue super well, but I can say this,
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it's, it's, it fits the pattern of exactly what you and I've just been talking about for the last
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five minutes. They don't really, they just make stuff up and then they make us stop them. And the
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reality is we only have so many resources to stop so many things. So they just keep throwing stuff at
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us. And that's why it's pretty important that other States get involved. That's why it's important
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Congress gets involved. We need every possible angle to stop them from, from abusing their
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authority and abusing the constitution because that's what they're doing.
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So how can we support you and our other AGs all around the country?
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I think what you're doing right now, just letting people know what we're fighting for,
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that it really doesn't matter. These are just like random lawsuits that are about,
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even that, even though immigration is a really important issue or the second amendment,
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obviously super important. It's bigger than that. It's about the power of government and whether we
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have a constitution that matters, whether we have a constitutional Republic that's going to last,
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if we don't protect it now and people don't know that that's the fight, we are going to lose it.
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All right. Ken, thank you so much. I really appreciate all that you do.
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Um, you were really one of the leaders of the AGs, uh, and you guys are making a huge,
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huge difference. I think, dare I say it, I think the AGs are the ones that are making the biggest
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difference, uh, in the last couple of years. So thank you for your leadership, Ken. I appreciate it.
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Hey, thank you. I really appreciate it. Have a great day.
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You bet. Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, if you don't have a good attorney general in your state,
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you need one. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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My good friend, uh, and, uh, a man I so respect because he calls the dirty on both sides of the
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aisle. Uh, Peter Swiser is with us now, uh, head of the government accountability Institute and,
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uh, the author of red handed and the co-host now of, uh, the drill down. Welcome Peter. How are you?
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I'm great, Glenn. Always good to be on with you. Thanks for having me.
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You bet. Um, so let's start with the, uh, the Biden crime family stuff you're following,
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I'm sure what's happening in Congress and they, they keep coming out every day. I see something
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new. Oh man, we just got some evidence. Oh, look how we got them now. Is this, should I even pay
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attention to that? Peter is something going to be done? Well, I think you should pay attention to it.
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Uh, look, what I would say, Glenn is let's look back at how far we've come. Uh, I first wrote about,
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we first exposed, um, the China deals that the Biden's had, the extent of the Ukraine deals back
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in 2018. I came on your show. We talked about it extensively on your podcast. We were voices crying
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in the wilderness. The Bidens at that point were saying, there's no deals in China. What are they
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talking about? We're at a stage now where they've had to admit, yes, okay. There were deals. Then the
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laptop emerged and, and people realized, okay, uh, Joe Biden was actually involved. There was
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communication. And then we are now at the point where, as I exposed in red handed, and again,
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you were really the tip of the spear in exposing it, who was actually giving money to the Biden. So
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I am encouraged by what I'm seeing, but look, here's the key thing. The leaders in Washington,
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I think, want to think there's going to be a legal bullet that's going to fix this. There's going to
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be some crime that they're going to find. That's not what this case is ultimately about. What this
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case is ultimately about in my mind, uh, is about espionage, uh, because it's about who gave these
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tens of millions of dollars of money to the Bidens. They don't, they don't dispute that they
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got the money. The three people that got them the money have links to the highest levels of Chinese
00:25:56.840
intelligence. And so this is not going to be resolved ultimately by some prosecutors saying,
00:26:03.200
oh, we found some technical crime, uh, that we're going to get the Bidens on. It's going to take
00:26:08.760
Congress and Capitol Hill holding the family into account for the money they were receiving,
00:26:15.060
who they were receiving it from. And that's going to be the solution. So, um, we need to make sure
00:26:21.340
that our political leaders are doing that, uh, and not just outsourcing this and hoping that some
00:26:26.920
lawyer is going to do something about it. Um, now let's go to, um, Ukraine. Ukraine is one of the
00:26:34.600
dirtiest, uh, countries, uh, far as money laundering and everything else, uh, in the world. And we have
00:26:42.900
had everyone from George Soros, uh, Barack Obama's people, uh, Joe Biden's family, uh, the Clintons,
00:26:51.900
everyone is involved in this. That's shady. Um, and now we're going to war and we're sending them
00:27:00.120
billions and billions of dollars and there's no oversight. Yeah. Is this really just nothing more
00:27:09.380
than a money laundering scheme? Well, yeah, I'm very concerned, uh, about, um, the way in which the
00:27:16.880
aid is being sent to Ukraine. I, you, you and I, I know both, uh, uh, grieve for the Ukrainian people.
00:27:23.400
We, we support the Ukrainian people. It's the problem is Ukraine is led by this corrupt government.
00:27:29.120
I mean, let's remember Zalinski's chief financial backer. It's not even close. Right. Is a oligarch
00:27:36.620
named Kolomoisky. Uh, Kolomoisky, uh, is known to have ripped off billions of dollars of foreign aid
00:27:43.540
in the past. Right. It was something called Prevot Bank that, um, got money from the IMF
00:27:49.260
from the United States or from Europe. Wasn't it like seven, seven billion dollars or something
00:27:55.340
like that? I mean, it was an extraordinary amount. Yeah. And it basically disappeared.
00:28:00.660
And one of the things that emerged was that all these like LLCs had been established,
00:28:05.860
uh, that siphoned all the money off. So that who is, that's who Zalinski is. So obviously there
00:28:12.700
are Ukrainians fighting bravely for their country, but you have this cast of characters at the top of
00:28:18.240
Ukraine. And then you have Americans who are making decisions who were, have been involved in leadership
00:28:24.200
here, uh, who have their hand in the trough and have had their hand in the trough, not just in
00:28:29.320
Ukraine, but in Russia and with Vladimir Putin. I mean, let's remember 10 years ago, um, the Clintons,
00:28:37.720
uh, uh, the, um, John Podesta, uh, Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, counselor at the state department,
00:28:44.400
we're all doing business with Vladimir Putin. He had, he had already invaded Georgia back in 2008.
00:28:51.480
They, they didn't care. Um, they were taking money from oligarchs and people in, in, in Russia and
00:28:58.180
Ukraine. So it is very hard not to look at this and say that there is a financial corruption component
00:29:05.500
to this. Uh, and all the people now who want to make Zalinski, the Thomas Jefferson of central
00:29:11.900
Europe, um, we're, have been getting rich off of people from both sides. The Clintons took money
00:29:17.620
from Ukrainian oligarchs. They took money from Russian oligarchs. So the entanglements are there
00:29:23.540
and to pretend that that didn't happen, that sorted part of this history didn't happen, uh, is,
00:29:29.200
is not being accurate, um, as to what's really going on. John Podesta has an energy company
00:29:35.160
and he got a $40 million investment from Putin's personal government investment fund, right?
00:29:43.340
That's right. That's exactly right. This is it. The company is called Juul Energy. Um,
00:29:48.940
he joined the board of Juul Energy, um, uh, you know, back, I think it was 2012, 2013,
00:29:54.960
within a couple of months, it got a $40 million investment from Rusnano, which is a sovereign
00:30:02.580
wealth fund, uh, that was called Putin's child, uh, by one of the Russian ministers. This was
00:30:08.860
Vladimir Putin's investment fund. Um, he was happy to take that money. John Podesta was when he then
00:30:15.380
went and worked for Barack Obama in the second term, uh, and the wall street journals reported on this
00:30:21.300
James Freeman did, uh, what basically happened was he tried to hide that asset. He took his ownership
00:30:27.940
stake in the energy company and gave it to one of his adult daughters to try to mask the fact that
00:30:33.960
these, uh, you know, assets were being held. Um, you look at Hillary Clinton, when Hillary Clinton
00:30:40.020
was secretary of state again, already Vladimir Putin had already invaded Georgia. Um, she said,
00:30:46.360
we're going to come up with this scheme as secretary of state called Skolkovo. And this was to create
00:30:52.260
a Russian version of Silicon Valley. We're going to get all these big tech companies to go and invest
00:30:57.800
in Russia. What could go wrong, Glenn? Well, what, what went wrong is among other things,
00:31:04.520
the Pentagon under Barack Obama later said, because of Skolkovo, Russia was able to get the
00:31:11.380
technology for this hypersonic missile, which they have now been using in Ukraine. Um, and,
00:31:17.720
and of course, Hillary Clinton and the Clinton foundation collected money from the people who were
00:31:23.320
running Skolkovo in Russia, they actually donated to the Clinton foundation. So, I mean, this is all
00:31:30.780
in black and white. This is not speculation. We've reported on this. You and I have talked a little bit
00:31:36.080
about this in the past. Um, and nobody in Washington, official Washington wants to bring this up.
00:31:42.460
If you discuss these things, you're somehow undermining the Ukrainian cause. No, you're not.
00:31:48.400
You're showing that the Ukrainian people have been victims, not only of Vladimir Putin,
00:31:52.700
but of the aggressive financial actions of elites in the United States as well. So, um, you know,
00:32:00.600
when we first got into this, I thought they, uh, my, my, the cynical part of me immediately went to,
00:32:10.640
they are destroying evidence. They did so much dirty stuff over there. They're paying people off and
00:32:18.360
destroying evidence. I don't know if that's true other than the labs that Hunter Biden was involved
00:32:23.520
in. Um, but the, uh, the money seems to me to be some sort of a payoff money laundering.
00:32:32.940
Are, do you think we're going to be able to track this ever and see if any of that money came back
00:32:39.420
to people here in the United States? Uh, I think it'll be hard to do. Certainly we're going to do that.
00:32:46.000
And I know you and your team are going to try to trace that, but I mean, here's, here's really the
00:32:50.960
problem in the nutshell, as far as I'm concerned, I, I am in support of providing, you know, food
00:32:57.580
supplies, even some military supplies to the Ukrainian people. What I don't want is these blank
00:33:04.220
checks, these tens of billions of dollars in cash, uh, that are basically being dumped into Ukraine,
00:33:10.920
where you're going to have Zelensky. And of course his chief financial backer Kolomoisky and these
00:33:16.700
other, uh, Ukrainian, uh, oligarchs like, uh, um, you know, that have donated to the Clintons like
00:33:22.860
Victor Pinchuk and others. I don't want them handling that money. Um, and of course they are going to be
00:33:29.100
handling that money. It's going to be going through their companies and their entities. That to me is a
00:33:34.720
huge problem. The way you make sure that the Ukraine story never gets reported in terms of
00:33:42.420
what was going on, the, the, the people that were doing deals there, the corrupt deals, the way you
00:33:47.220
make sure that story doesn't get out is you continue to pay the leaders of Ukraine and provide them with
00:33:52.460
financial support. If you end that, um, that's when you are at risk. So there's no question. Yeah,
00:33:59.940
there's no question that is got to be some motivation as to what's going on. Why was Randy
00:34:06.020
Weingarten and, and Janet Yellen there? I don't know if they're planning to change the Ukrainian
00:34:12.060
school curriculum. I certainly hope not. Uh, but yeah, it's, it's again, demonstrates that
00:34:17.580
Randy Weingarten is a political figure. She's not the, uh, ultimately a, a teacher and advocate for
00:34:24.520
teachers. But again, this is part of the network because it's, it's, it's government money,
00:34:29.260
but it's also NGOs and nonprofits. Uh, these are organizations like the Clinton foundation that
00:34:36.020
Randy Weingarten has given lots of money to, and his head of American Federation of Teachers has done
00:34:41.460
work with, they have received, uh, large sums of money to do, uh, various projects in Ukraine. And
00:34:48.820
again, there's, there's no accountability for that. We think about government corruption and taxpayer
00:34:54.040
money, but there's a lot of, you know, nonprofit organizations that receive money sometimes from
00:35:00.200
governments, uh, to carry out, um, projects in countries like Ukraine. It's, it's, it's really a,
00:35:07.240
in my mind, a very cynical takeoff of, you know, the old Rahm Emanuel line about never let a crisis go
00:35:14.000
to waste. Um, that, that applies to global crises as well. That applies to war zones, unfortunately. Uh,
00:35:22.040
and to see Randy Weingarten there, um, you know, provides no positive basis for anything good, uh,
00:35:29.920
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So Peter, um, tell me about, uh, uh, tell me about the Republicans. Do we have Republicans
00:37:13.680
dirty in Ukraine as well that would, um, want to stop the investigation on this kind of stuff?
00:37:21.300
Yeah, I'm sure that there are. Um, I, I think the reason that there's so much focus on, uh, for
00:37:28.500
example, the Clintons, um, uh, and, and, you know, the Biden's is because they made obvious and clear
00:37:36.180
efforts, uh, early on, uh, to stake out claim in Ukraine. And it really is one of the ultimate
00:37:42.900
ironies, right? When you think about it, that, you know, the, the, the quote unquote biggest
00:37:47.740
advocates for Ukraine and Ukraine independence, uh, have been people like the Biden's ostensibly.
00:37:55.000
Uh, and yet, uh, Vladimir Putin chose two occasions to go into Ukraine. Uh, one time in 2014,
00:38:03.820
when he moved into Crimea, which of course was the Obama Biden administration, then he skipped to the
00:38:09.840
Trump administration. And when Joe Biden became president of the United States, uh, he decided to
00:38:16.140
move in again, um, which is really strange when you think about it because Biden has sort of thumped
00:38:23.260
his chest that I've been such a staunch supporter of Ukraine and Ukraine independence. Uh, and yet when
00:38:29.320
he has been at the highest runs of power, that's when Vladimir Putin has been the most aggressive. So
00:38:34.060
he sees weakness there, but to answer your question, yes, I'm sure that there are, uh, Republican
00:38:40.220
political consultants, uh, that have gotten, you know, NGO grants to do sort of nation building work
00:38:47.300
in Ukraine. The problem is, is that those efforts of course, always go through the Ukrainian government
00:38:52.980
and Ukrainian political parties. Uh, and when you look at the span there, there's, there's not a lot
00:38:58.500
of clean hands, uh, in any of the political parties there. So John Podesta's brother, Tony Podesta
00:39:05.420
was over in Ukraine, did some really, I think some dirty stuff. All of a sudden just disappeared.
00:39:11.900
Uh, he just like went away. I'm closing shop. Oh, like literally overnight. I'm shutting it all down.
00:39:17.600
Then when Biden got into office, he opened shop again. Uh, is he involved in Ukraine again?
00:39:25.720
Uh, I don't know if he is again, but he certainly was before. And let's remember, um, Tony Podesta,
00:39:31.720
uh, of course his brother, John, you know, Podesta ran the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016.
00:39:37.880
Tony Podesta, uh, was a lobbyist who did an enormous amount of work with foreign clients.
00:39:44.240
Uh, some of them Russian, some of them Chinese, some of them Ukrainian, a veritable United Nations
00:39:50.020
of clients. And he never registered as a foreign agent, uh, under the so-called FARA Act,
00:39:55.720
uh, which is of course what they went after. Um, you know, uh, Donald Trump's, uh, campaign
00:40:01.400
manager, Paul Manafort for failing to file. Uh, Podesta retroactively filed, I think 30,
00:40:09.100
um, uh, filings for clients after they went after Paul Manafort. Uh, they never went after
00:40:16.420
Yeah. What a surprise. What a surprise. In my mind, in my mind, I'm glad that they went
00:40:21.600
after Manafort for FARA violations. We need to enforce that. You've got to be consistent.
00:40:25.960
You've got to be consistent. It seems like they never are. Um, real quick. And I know this
00:40:30.920
is kind of out of your expertise, but I know you know a lot about Putin. Uh, are we headed
00:40:37.640
Uh, I think we are headed towards war and I think here's the, here's the problem. Vladimir Putin
00:40:43.120
has sort of put all his chips on the table in Ukraine. Uh, you have to give him some
00:40:49.020
win way to save face. Yeah. If you say unconditional surrender, uh, that to me is a recipe to escalation.
00:40:57.040
And this is the kind of man who would start using battlefield nuclear weapons. Uh, and once
00:41:01.900
that happens, uh, you know, God help us all. So you have got to have some kind of a negotiated
00:41:08.440
settlement that protects Ukraine, protects your Ukrainian people, but also gives Vladimir Putin
00:41:13.820
something. The problem is that's not Joe Biden's strategy. Joe Biden thinks he's FDR fighting
00:41:19.240
Hitler. Hitler of course did not have nuclear weapons. Uh, it's a totally different world
00:41:24.720
Yeah. And we also had a plan, uh, after Hitler too, uh, where we're just saying, uh, you know
00:41:31.600
what? The next guy will probably be better. The guy standing in the wings, uh, do not look
00:41:36.320
better, uh, by far. Uh, Peter Swiser. Thank you so much. You can listen to his podcast. It's