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Today on the Glenn Beck Program, we have Julie Kelly talking a little bit about some new evidence from January 6th that kind of helps the story for the left unravel a bit. Also, Alan Dershowitz joins me to talk about what happened yesterday with the judge and Hunter Biden. And we tell you some rather disturbing things that are happening around the country that people are being silenced, including Jordan Peterson.
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Big program for you today on the podcast. We have Julie Kelly talking a little bit about
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some new evidence from January 6th that kind of helps the story for the left unravel just a bit.
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Also, Alan Dershowitz joins me. What happened yesterday with the judge and Hunter Biden?
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It's good. He said that it was good for the Constitution and a good thing. I said,
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maybe, I mean, I think there's a chance that maybe, and he said, don't get too excited. Don't get too
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excited. We also talked to Greg Stubbe, the congressman from Florida, who is talking about
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impeachment in the House. And we told you some rather disturbing things that are happening around
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the country that people are being silenced, including Jordan Peterson in a truly 1984 sort
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You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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Alan Dershowitz is joining us now, Harvard Law School professor emeritus, and the host of The
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Dershow, and don't forget the author of Get Trump. Alan Dershowitz, how are you, sir?
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I am doing great. The judge did the right thing yesterday, and guess who predicted it? I predicted
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over and over again that he would not accept this plea bargain. Of course, CNN said, of course,
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she has to accept the plea bargain. What are you talking about? It's Dershowitz again. He's
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saying all kinds of things. Well, you know, CNN always gets it wrong because their predictions
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are based always on wishful thinking. They wanted the judge to accept the plea deal, so they said
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she would. I'm not any smarter than the people on CNN. I just don't allow my preferences to influence
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my predictions. My predictions are based on my 60 years of experience with the law, and I saw deep flaws
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in this plea bargain, and I said, and I said it over and over again, she wouldn't, and she shouldn't
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Pretty brave. Pretty brave. You know, she gets flack because she was a so-called Trump appointee,
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but she wasn't a Trump appointee. As you know, the way judges get appointed, when you have two senators
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in the state from a different party, the senators basically make the decision. Now, the president can
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veto it, but she was essentially appointed by the two Democratic senators and Trump alike. So,
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you know, she's a young and courageous woman. Both sides wanted this deal to go through.
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The Justice Department wanted their kind of secret deal. We never saw the plea bargain. We never saw
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what was entailed. I just smelled a rat, but we didn't see it. And she said, no, no, no, wait a minute.
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Does this plea bargain mean he can't ever be investigated again for other crimes? You know,
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and we don't know whether the investigation was limited to Delaware, the smallest state in the union.
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Oh, whether Weiss, David Weiss was allowed to go to the District of Columbia, allowed to go to Los
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Angeles, to Ukraine, to China, to follow the money. And if he wasn't, the plea bargain should never be
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accepted. So she kind of delayed it. She said, until you to clear this up, I'm not going to hear it.
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But one of the problems I thought she had was, there was no adversarial feeling between the two
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parties. You know, for our system to work, it has to be adversarial. Doesn't mean it needs to be nasty,
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but adversarial. One side is pushing for the law, the other one is pushing for the client.
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And they didn't have this. They got into this deal together.
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And they should have had a third party, whether in the form of an amicus brief, a friend of the
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court brief. Somebody should have said, we're there on behalf of the American people. Justice
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must not only be done, it must seem to be done. You know, the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy
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instructs judges and says two things to them. Number one, don't take bribes. That's obvious. But
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that's the second. The first one is, lo takir panim. That's the Hebrew for don't recognize faces.
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Don't do justice based on who the person is. That's the origin of the famous statue of justice
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with the blindfold. It's not Greek literature. It's the Bible that says, be blindfolded. Don't look at
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race. Don't look at class. Don't look at gender. Don't look at politics. Don't even look at the person.
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Don't peek under the blindfold. Do justice based only on the law and the facts. It has to be the
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same justice administered to everybody. And that's a biblical command going back how many thousands
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of years? And the judge finally did that. We are so lost. This actually gave a lot of people a lot
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of hope. Because unlike CNN, I just assumed from the way things are always going now that it was going
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to go through. And it didn't. And that gave me a hope that, wait, there is some independence here.
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There are some people that understand the rule of law. And gave me a great deal of hope. What does
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it mean going forward? Well, I would say it gave me a little bit of hope. I think you have too much
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hope. I think she will ultimately accept the deal. She will eventually accept the deal with a few
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modifications. What they'll agree to is, no, he can't be prosecuted for any other crimes unless
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the evidence was not available now, or he tried to suppress it, or the crimes are very serious. But
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there'll be an agreement. And I think she'll accept the agreement. I don't think she should,
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but I think she will. She should call Garland. She should call Weiss, put them under oath and say,
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look, Garland, you say he had the authority to investigate anywhere in the country, including
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District of Columbia and Los Angeles. He says no. He was restricted to Delaware. Who is right? I have
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to know that before I accept the deal. That's what she should do. I suspect she won't do that.
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Why? I think she feels she's done what she has to do. She doesn't have a roving commission to do
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justice. She has to deal with what are called cases and controversies. And generally, judges just
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resolve disputes between the parties. But here, as you said, there are no disputes between the parties.
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The parties both agree that there should be a plea bargain of this kind, which, if it involves
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only these two crimes, is not a sweetheart deal. If you only were late in your taxes and didn't fill
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out a form properly for guns, yeah, that's the right sentence. But if they didn't investigate
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Burisma, if they didn't investigate what's going on in China, then it's not an appropriate plea bargain,
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and then it really is a sweetheart deal. So can I ask you, and I'm not asking you,
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I'm not asking for a legal thing, always innocent until proven guilty, I get. But I'm not saying that
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the president is guilty. I'm saying it looks really bad for the president. If I were just going on these
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facts, it has to be investigated properly, not some witch hunt. But this, the evidence that is out
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is a little overwhelming. It's much more than I think we had on Nixon. It's a little overwhelming,
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and it's beyond Nixon. To me, Nixon was a break-up, you know, break-in. It was the cover-up that was
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the real problem. Here, we not only have an extensive cover-up, but we might also have taking
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money from foreign adversaries. This is really bad. Am I reading this wrong?
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No, you're reading the evidence that's been offered correctly. What we don't know is whether
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it's true. You know, whistleblowers, just because they're whistleblowers doesn't mean they're telling
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you the truth. And so the issue was Joe Biden sitting next to Hunter Biden when he made that
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threatening, extortionate demand. We have to find that out. Was he on the phone 10 times?
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Are there recordings? I mean, if I'm the prosecution, I don't tell the other side whether
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there are any recordings. Let them testify under oath without knowing whether there are recordings.
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That's the best way of getting the truth. If you don't know whether there's a recording,
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you're going to tell the truth. If you know there's no recording, well, you know,
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you can remember things in an innocent way. You can't do that if you believe there's a recording.
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And I don't know whether there's a recording. And I don't know whether or not they think there's
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a recording on the Biden side. So there's a lot of investigation that has to be done.
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Would you agree that we are at least, I mean, the New York Times and CNN and everybody else still
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saying, there's nothing here. Why are we even talking about this? Maybe you're right. I was like
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this with Donald Trump. I was willing to investigate. I want to know what happened.
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I want a real investigation. You would agree that the New York Times and all those guys are wrong
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by saying there's nothing here? Yeah, except there's nothing new about that. The New York
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Times and CNN on these issues have been wrong from the very beginning. Look, there's one word to
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generalize about most Americans, Republicans, Democrats, liberals, conservatives, Christians,
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Jews, Muslims. It's skepticism. Prove it. Show me. I'm not sure. That's the American way. We don't
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accept things because somebody said it, whether it's because the president of the United States
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said it or a whistleblower said it. Show me the facts. What we need is a special counsel appointed,
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and it has to be appointed with the coordination of Republicans and Democrats alike. It has to be
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somebody who is above reproach, perhaps a former Supreme Court justice, a former president of a
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university, somebody who can really look into this, who doesn't care, has no horse in the race,
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doesn't have an interest in a particular outcome. And that's what we haven't had up to now.
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More on the impeachment of Joe Biden and what happened yesterday with his son Hunter from
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Representative Greg Stubbe from Florida. We do that coming up in in just a second. Stand by first.
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I want to take you back to January 6th and the police officer that was was brutally beaten. In fact,
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here are a couple of interviews with him right after January 6th. I got her. I got her.
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I will do it again if I have to. It's my job. It was very scary because I thought I was going to
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lose my life. When I came in, she wanted to hug me. And I told her, no, because I was covered.
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I was covered in pepper spray. My hands were bleeding still.
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And I even, I couldn't even sleep because I went, took a shower. And instead of helping
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that, re-inflamed the chemicals. It had soaked through your clothes.
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I too was being crushed by the other rioters. I could feel my, myself losing oxygen and recall
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thinking to myself, this is how I'm going to die, defending this entrance.
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Stop. I, that is pretty hard to hear. Pretty hard to hear. Now, Julie Kelly is a journalist and
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she's been given analysis and commentary related to the weaponization of the U.S. Department of
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Justice. She writes on the substack, declassified with Julie Kelly. She also is giving us some really
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unique looks at January 6th and the pending criminal indictments of Donald Trump. And Julie has just
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tweeted out earlier this week that that story doesn't seem to fit. Do I have that right, Julie?
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You do have that right, Glenn. And thank you so much for having me on and sharing my work.
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So, Officer Equilino Ganel, who you heard there, his sob story, has been one of what I call January 6th
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celebrity cops. So, he was one of four police officers, security guards, who testified during the
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very first January 6th select committee televised hearing. The idea of that hearing was to make it
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sound like Trump supporters tried to kill police officers that day. And Ganel has been, now for
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two and a half years, telling his sob story, his near-death experience, that he almost died.
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Injuries to his head, his hands, his shoulder, that his foot was crushed. Well, footage that was
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obtained by Joe Hanneman at Epoch Times, I have to credit him, when I was looking at his coverage of what
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happened, actually happened to Roseanne Boylan. The first person who popped up, in my view, was
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Officer Ganel. And so, I zoomed in. It's like, well, I can't believe this is him. And there he is for
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seven minutes, as I have in my piece and on Twitter, walking around, no indication of any injury,
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no sign of pain. He's actually kicking things aside with his feet. His hands are visible. There's no
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bleeding. There's no abrasions on his hands. His shoulders, both shoulders are mobile. He's taking
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off gear. He's bending up and down. He's moving things around. He's putting on a surgical face mask.
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No apparent signs of pain or injury for seven minutes. But yet, here he has been a key figure
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in promoting the idea that police were almost killed on January 6th, and that he was so grievously
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injured, Glenn, that he had to take a medical leave for at least a year, and then only went
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back to partial duty due to his injuries and surgery he claimed that he had because of those injuries.
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I don't know much. I know he is a veteran. I know he's an immigrant, I believe, from maybe the
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Dominican Republic. That's really all that I know. But Glenn, I also want to underscore
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his words and his claims are not without consequence. He has been a government witness
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in trials of January 6th defendants, where he's taken the stand under oath and talked about his
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injuries that he suffered. He has filed victim impact statements and sentencing hearings for
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January 6th defendants, talking about the serious injuries that were inflicted by Trump supporters.
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And he specifically says Trump supporters. He does not say protesters, rioters, Trump supporters.
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This has helped judges impose very long, harsh sentences against January 6th defendants.
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And in fact, Glenn, one federal judge, Trevor McFadden, specifically called out Officer
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Gunnell, in his testimony in one trial and said that his testimony about his injuries were not
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credible and that he did not believe when Officer Gunnell said he had been beaten with a stolen baton.
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So it's not just that he's talking on, you know, CNN, Jake Tapper, or he's posting this garbage on
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Twitter. He is he has said these things under oath, as I said, with with dire consequences for defendants.
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Do you know, because I know you've been following all of the cases, and I would assume you know some
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of the attorneys just by following it. Are they looking into retrying their their cases? I mean,
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this is information that the government had and didn't release. That seems like a miscarriage of
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justice. So well said, Glenn. And this has been a criticism of defendants now for more than two
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years, that this Department of Justice and Capitol Police, by the way, have designated all of this
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footage as highly sensitive government material. All of it has been under strict protective orders
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in court. And the government is really only turning over footage to defendants that is case specific.
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So say in the case of Pat, Pat McCoy, where Gunnell testified, they only saw footage of the
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defendant, the security video of that particular defendant, they didn't turn over or produce
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the video of Officer Gunnell. And this is only what we've one clip that we've seen. I'm sure
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there's other footage of him walking through the Capitol. And keep in mind, this is around five
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o'clock that day. This isn't before the violence between protesters and police began. This is after it
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ended. So it's not like he went back to another area of the Capitol and got beaten up by protesters.
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The building had been evacuated. The grounds were being evacuated. So yes, I believe that the two
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defendants where Officer Gunnell testified and filed victim impact statements, they are on appeal. So I'm
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sure that this footage will be part of their appeal as to what the government was hiding, not just from
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defense, not just from the public, but from defendants and their attorneys.
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Right. So the, um, you're, you're following, uh, greatly the weaponization of, uh, of the government,
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um, hearings that are going on. Do you believe that those move forward, uh, into anything of significance?
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I'm not sure, Glenn. I was really hoping that there would be a separate January 6th committee.
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And we really need one for two reasons to expose all of the lies and falsehoods that were promoted by
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the first select committee. And also to tell the American people the truth to show them this video.
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I mean, I post this on Twitter and true social, and I post it obviously in my work and, and thanks to
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interviews like this, it's reaching a broader audience, but they need televised hearings. They
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need to fight back with what the January 6th select committee, because this is the crux of the
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weaponization of the department of justice and this administration. This January 6th is ground zero
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for turning the war on terror that once was against ISIS and Al Qaeda against conservatives,
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Republicans, Trump supporters. So you can't talk about weaponizing government without fully exposing
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the truth about January 6th. What the department of justice is doing, concealing evidence, the lies
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that the Congress has told to the American people and how the FBI is using its counterterrorism unit
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to continue even this week, Glenn, two and a half years later, arrest people related to even minimal
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participation in the events of January 6th. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. So, Julie, I think you could make a case
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that this is even more important than the Hunter and Joe Biden selling their country out for, well, their
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fellow countrymen. I think they got 30 cents ahead for us. Can you compare the two?
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I guess, but I would argue that this is more important because everyone sort of knows nothing
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is really going to happen to Hunter Biden. I think it's extremely useful what James Comer and the
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Oversight Committee and, of course, the Ways and Means Committee and these courageous whistleblowers from
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IRS and FBI are talking about with these investigations. But January 6th is it's going to be a key issue in the
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2024 presidential race. But it is still the Department of Justice is still collecting victims. They're still
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collecting scouts. And so there's no it is far in my view, of course, far more important.
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The American people need to know what is happening, not just the Department of Justice, but in this
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courthouse, which is where Donald Trump's lawyers are today, as Jack Smith is now preparing a multi-count
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felony criminal indictment against Donald Trump for January 6th and could rope in attorneys, White House
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officials, and maybe even a few Republican members of the House.
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This is crazy. Thank you so much for everything that you do. I appreciate that you have just zeroed in on
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this and not let it go. Julie, thank you. Thanks for having me on Glenn. This is the best of the Glenn
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Beck program. Pat Gray is with us. And we were just talking as we were getting ready for Greg Stubbe.
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I think, Pat, that there is hope that this is not going to end well for the Bidens.
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I'd like to be able to think that. I hope that's true. It's just hard to believe, you know, it's hard
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to believe because no, I know they've gotten away with this stuff for so long. It's like, OK, they're just
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they're just they're bulletproof. There's there's a different set of standards for them than us.
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Listen to CNN last night. Here is the in front of the courthouse. Here's what they were saying.
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So the judge said that she could not accept the plea agreement as it was structured. Remember,
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there was a plea agreement where Hunter Biden would plead guilty to two tax misdemeanors and then a
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diversion on a felony gun charge. Well, the judge taking issue with both of them saying that on the
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plea agreement related to the tax charges, she was saying that she this agreement as structured just
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had her as what she said, a rubber stamp. It did not allow her to weigh in on whether she thought
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that the plea was acceptable. She had questions about that and wants both sides to brief her on
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that. Also on the gun diversion, she had questions about how that deal was structured because it
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inserted her in the process. If Hunter Biden breached the terms of this agreement and the government
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had an issue with it, they wanted the judge to act as a neutral arbiter.
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Okay, so she goes on and on with this. And there's so much more than that. She, the judge said,
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it looks like you two are cozy. And I've never seen a plea deal like this. And this washes him clean
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of everything. Is that your understanding? The Biden administration's or the Biden lawyers said,
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yeah, that's our understanding. And Department of Defense or Department of Justice said, no,
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no, I don't think so. So is anything going to happen? We have Representative Greg Stubion with us
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now. He is a congressman from Florida. And he is one of the two that are really pushing to get the
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House to move to impeach Joe Biden. Hi, Greg, how are you? Hey, good. How are you? Thanks for having
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me on. You bet. So what is the mood in Congress for these hearings and impeachment?
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Well, you started to see the speaker actually talk about this, which I think is a great move
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forward, because a lot of us have been clamoring for impeachment for quite some time. But through these
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different investigations, all of this evidence now that is mounting evidence after evidence that
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Joe Biden was involved in the business deals with Hunter Biden, was receiving financial information,
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oversight committee did subpoenas on the financial information. We're waiting on some of that.
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But through some of that, we've been able to ascertain that it's like 20 or $30 million that the
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Biden family has received through four actions that obviously at the time, vice president, but some of
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these actions he's done while he's been president. Senator Grassley just released a form from the FBI
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that showed the $5 million payment related to the Ukraine and buriesman issue. I think there's
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overwhelming evidence, having been a lawyer myself and been a prosecutor in the JAG Corps. So we're
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actually drafting our own impeachment resolution specifically on bribery crimes, corruption crimes,
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because in my opinion, there's overwhelming evidence of that now in the public sphere. And we're still
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doing these investigations. So there'll probably be more to follow.
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So Greg, I am, I'm with you, I think there is overwhelming evidence. The Nixon trials went,
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you know, through the first term, into the second, all of the accusations happened in the first term,
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he was reelected, nobody wanted to talk about impeachment, the Democrats brought the impeachment back
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up. And it was eventually the turning of some of those Democrats in the Senate that were finally
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convinced, yeah, he did do this. Do you sense any kind of even softening of the other side on,
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yeah, I'm not going to say this out loud, but that looks bad.
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I don't say, you know, you obviously don't see Democrats going on the news and saying that they
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think that the president should be impeached. But what you're seeing is, and this is kind of
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shocking to me, frankly, is the mainstream media is actually, for the first time, actually starting
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to report about these things. They're starting to report about the Hunter Biden issues because it's
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such a pervasive issue now. And it is so evidentiary apparent that this was going on that they don't
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have a choice but to report about it. So that's actually putting Democrats in very difficult positions.
00:27:48.520
You've seen the plea deal with Hunter Biden now fall apart. And that isn't about Hunter Biden.
00:27:53.560
That's about the information that can come from all of that, if that goes to trial through discovery,
00:27:59.060
of how Joe Biden's involved in that. You've heard the IRS whistleblowers testify directly. And these
00:28:04.360
are the gentlemen who were part of the team that was investigating Hunter Biden and their foreign
00:28:09.340
business dealings and all these tax issues that specifically said they had evidence that the big guy
00:28:14.920
and Joe Biden was involved and wanted to issue subpoenas and warrants on information and the DOJ shut them
00:28:21.040
down. So as this starts to open up and you get more and more facts and evidence, I don't see how you
00:28:26.360
as a Democrat couldn't at least have an open mind to the fact that you have somebody who used his his
00:28:32.760
position to enrich himself and his family. I haven't heard any of any Democrats talk about that, you know,
00:28:38.920
publicly. But you can certainly see a softening, as you said, from some of the positions that they're
00:28:44.540
taking and them trying to distance themselves from the administration on these issues.
00:28:49.920
Do what is the ramification of impeachment? You know, Donald Trump was impeached twice.
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But the last one was I mean, I don't even think even anybody even noticed for the most part,
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except for the mainstream media. What are the ramifications of you guys pushing this through
00:29:08.720
without control of the Senate? Yeah, here's here's the political reality that we currently
00:29:14.320
live in. Even if we're able to pass an impeachment resolution on the House floor, it goes to the
00:29:20.600
Senate and you need 60 votes. So that's why I think the way that House leadership and the Republican
00:29:26.340
leadership of the different committees, there's like three different committees, because there's so
00:29:29.140
many crimes that are being investigated, have doing the investigation to get the evidence before the
00:29:34.660
American people to be able to convince 60 senators that this happened. Here's the evidence that it
00:29:41.100
happened. Here's the specific crimes that were committed and the overwhelming evidence that there
00:29:46.640
were crimes that were committed. And I think that will push members in the Senate to be like, look,
00:29:52.000
regardless of party affiliation, you can't allow somebody to use their position to be bribed that is
00:29:58.820
affecting national security, to be corrupted where they're getting financial benefit from being in
00:30:04.260
office. So hopefully we will do a good enough job in the House laying all this evidence out before
00:30:09.920
the American people and the senators. And they'll see when we preside our case, if we can get it past
00:30:14.660
the House, that there were crimes that were committed and there needs to be ramifications for that
00:30:19.780
crime. I mean, the Democrats impeached Trump for a phone call to a foreign leader. And in my opinion,
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this goes way beyond Watergate of the of the things that we have evidence of now.
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I think this is the most dangerous corruption I have seen in an Oval Office. And you know, I know
00:30:37.980
the history of our country and Grant and everything else. And this is the most dangerous because it is
00:30:45.200
not just a cover up. It's not a small crime. This is a high crime. If you are selling access to your
00:30:54.200
office as vice president or president, that is a high crime. Plus, with that, you have all kinds
00:31:02.320
of other things. Because he is has been able to cover this up. He has the Justice Department
00:31:10.940
part of this deal. Now that goes to then all of the weaponization of government. I mean,
00:31:18.680
this is huge and never ending. Yeah, I mean, you think about, you know, why would Merrick Garland
00:31:26.020
play defense in the Department of Defense, Director Wray and the FBI by stalling and stonewalling
00:31:32.600
all of these different investigations all to protect Joe Biden and the things that have happened. I mean,
00:31:38.200
some of these go back to 2014. Some of these go back to I'm sure if you kept digging even more,
00:31:43.620
probably when he was in the US Senate. And as you get more facts and evidence, why would Merrick
00:31:49.120
Garland, Director Wray, why would these other individuals put their lives on the line? And I
00:31:55.060
wholeheartedly believe that both of them are obstructing the administration of justice by not
00:32:01.740
allowing the investigations to move forward the way they should be moving forward. I mean, if this was
00:32:06.520
Trump or myself or any other Republican member of Congress or any conservative, I'd have been in
00:32:12.800
prison a long time ago, we would have committed these crimes. And so I have been, I would have
00:32:17.740
been for it, Greg. I mean, if you do this, I mean, I was open to listen to the case. You know,
00:32:26.080
we did our own homework. And I told my, my staff, I'm not looking to exonerate Donald Trump. I'm
00:32:32.960
looking to find the truth. Because if he did things that he wasn't supposed to, we have to stand for
00:32:40.100
impeachment. The same thing. I, we've looked into this with Biden, and we have enough documents,
00:32:46.960
I think, to impeach. We've looked into it, and it wasn't to get him out. It was, let's find out what
00:32:54.740
really happened here. And you have to impeach. Otherwise, otherwise, you're not asking any honest
00:33:03.640
questions in life. You're just looking for something to guarantee that things continue to
00:33:09.580
roll your way. Yeah. And not just the impeachment, but just take it a step farther. The corruption
00:33:15.200
of the money that was paid by our number one national security threat to the safety and security
00:33:20.940
of the American people, the Chinese Communist Party, was paying him off. And he is now the president,
00:33:26.480
the commander in chief of the military. And he's making decisions based on the compromising,
00:33:31.300
corrupt behavior that he has had in the past. And why did he let a spy balloon traverse over the
00:33:36.400
entire United States before they shot it down? After it had collected all the intel at nuclear
00:33:41.080
sites, military bases, you have a corrupt president who we now have evidence that he has received money
00:33:48.800
and his family has received money from the Chinese Communist Party. And it's affecting the national
00:33:53.960
security of America. So you've got that. You not only have that, you also have Ukraine.
00:34:04.120
He was wildly corrupt in Ukraine. Yeah. Yeah. But we're sending billions of dollars and we're
00:34:11.740
talking about going to war. He's compromised. What are we thinking? This is so dangerous.
00:34:18.420
100%. Greg, thank you. Thank you for standing up for this. Go ahead.
00:34:23.620
Well, I would just say, and we in Congress, especially on the Republican side, have asked
00:34:27.540
for information of where this money to Ukraine has gone, because there is no guardrails when
00:34:32.580
the Democrats were in control of the hundred and I think it's $20 billion that we've sent to Ukraine
00:34:37.300
of where that money is going and the accountability of where that taxpayer dollars have gone. And you
00:34:42.080
can't tell me that the Bidens or some other people or there's corrupt entities that are getting
00:34:47.640
money on that on the back end when they're refusing to have accountability of where that money is
00:34:51.420
being spent. Of course. Of course. I bet you 30% of it, maybe 30% of it actually got to where it was
00:35:00.600
supposed to go. Congressman Greg Stubbe, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you.