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00:00:00.000 You know, I have to hand it to us. We didn't like we didn't just phone it in today.

00:00:05.020 I tried several times, several times, several times.

00:00:08.300 I mean, I didn't I didn't try, but I came in.

00:00:13.260 Yeah, it wasn't just me phoning it. Right.

00:00:15.700 You know, but it's a Friday. So what do you expect?

00:00:19.120 I mean, this is America 2023. I mean, the fact that we show up for four days a week is pretty impressive.

00:00:23.900 It's really bad. We should go protest in France and we can bring back some of those.

00:00:30.000 Nappy Berets. Here's the thing. Today is a Fight Back Friday and Good News Friday podcast.

00:00:37.000 A lot of really fascinating stuff that is going on that we thought was impossible even a month ago.

00:00:44.560 Some of these things you are you are activated.

00:00:49.320 There's something happening in America and we show it to you on today's broadcast.

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00:02:31.900 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:39.660 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:42.740 I have to tell you, God works in really mysterious ways.

00:02:47.720 We were going to do a Gettysburg restoring event.

00:02:53.260 It was called Restoring the Covenant.

00:02:55.480 And then what happened?

00:02:58.100 COVID.

00:02:58.820 And we were deep financially into it and everything else.

00:03:04.600 And that went away quickly.

00:03:07.100 And I have felt that a covenant needed to be made for years.

00:03:13.340 We are a covenant people.

00:03:16.580 And a covenant with God is really important.

00:03:21.020 If you make a covenant with God and you break it, all of those blessings go away.

00:03:29.860 All of those protections go away.

00:03:32.520 Everything goes away.

00:03:34.360 And we have broken our covenant made by many times in our country's history by our leaders.

00:03:42.520 We have to make it again.

00:03:46.740 And we have to beg for forgiveness.

00:03:50.260 We get it.

00:03:51.180 We know.

00:03:51.580 We know what we've done.

00:03:53.620 So I wanted to do that a few years ago.

00:03:56.480 I get a video from a woman named Donica Hudson.

00:04:01.500 And she said, I'm listening to you.

00:04:05.480 I don't even remember what show it was.

00:04:06.620 I'm listening to you.

00:04:07.280 And you have to be at this event.

00:04:11.280 So I checked into it.

00:04:13.560 And I'm going to be at this event next Wednesday.

00:04:17.380 And Donica is on with me now.

00:04:20.640 Hello, Donica.

00:04:21.240 How are you?

00:04:22.400 I'm great.

00:04:23.580 It's so good to be with you, Glenn.

00:04:25.420 Thank you.

00:04:26.240 So tell me what this event is.

00:04:28.640 This event is called the First Landing, 1607 Declaration of Covenant.

00:04:35.580 And we are so glad and thankful that you'll be there as our keynote speaker for the gala dinner, because you do understand covenant.

00:04:44.260 God will not be mocked.

00:04:45.940 That's the most important thing of a covenant.

00:04:48.300 God will not be mocked.

00:04:49.720 Don't get into a covenant lightly with him, because he'll keep his promise.

00:04:54.320 All right.

00:04:55.700 So the first landing, 1607, we're talking Jamestown, right?

00:04:59.960 That's correct.

00:05:00.960 Actually, the first landing was at Cape Henry.

00:05:04.240 Okay.

00:05:04.540 And then the colonists moved.

00:05:06.720 It took two weeks, and they went down the river and established Jamestown.

00:05:11.720 So a lot of people don't know, it's not in many of the history books, surprise, surprise, that when the colonists landed on April the 29th of 1607, they planted a huge wooden cross in the sand.

00:05:26.360 They knelt.

00:05:27.500 They took communion, and they dedicated themselves and this land to God, this land meaning the entire continent.

00:05:34.220 And not only did they do that, Glenn, they prayed that America would be evangelists to the world and that generations to come after them would return and look at that cross and join them in this covenant.

00:05:50.440 And that's exactly what we're doing.

00:05:52.800 So where is this happening?

00:05:54.860 This is happening at Virginia Beach, Virginia, at the Delta Marriott.

00:05:59.720 But it's actually near the first landing cross that's on a military base, and we're bringing a big wooden cross to the sand there so that people can literally do what the covenant calls us to do.

00:06:11.180 Look at that cross and remember what the founders of America did when they dedicated this nation to God.

00:06:18.000 So the covenant I've read, and are you going to actually speak the covenant, or are you asking people just to do it on their own?

00:06:27.040 Well, if you go to our website, you'll see that I have written a declaration of covenant.

00:06:33.120 And in that, we in unison re-covenant with the founding colonists' original words.

00:06:41.200 And I actually had that prayer in my book, Pray America Great, and that's how I got connected to help co-found this event with the visionary, Reverend Jack Stagman.

00:06:50.640 So what we're doing is acknowledging that we are a Christian nation, that the colonists did, in fact, do exactly what I just outlined, and that we intend to continue to join the colonists in this covenant.

00:07:06.460 Because if we don't, it's like you said in your incredible email to me, Glenn, that I read over and over again, because it was so powerful, that this is the only way that we save America.

00:07:17.440 It is.

00:07:18.980 Yeah, it is.

00:07:20.160 Okay, so is there a recognition, because I read maybe another, something else posted on the website, I don't remember what it was, but it was really a prayer of recognition of, wow, we've screwed things up.

00:07:37.180 Please forgive us.

00:07:38.240 Exactly, exactly.

00:07:40.860 And if you go to FirstLanding1607.com, you can click on the Declaration of Covenant.

00:07:46.860 It's actually a downloadable PDF so that you can actually agree with us.

00:07:51.900 We're going to be live streaming it around the world in 72 languages, real time, thanks to CloudHub.

00:07:58.460 And we are going to allow people around the world to agree with us with this covenant.

00:08:05.040 So go ahead and register online to do that.

00:08:08.020 But yes, we do acknowledge most of the things that you broadcast and are awakening the Republic to realize is why we're in this situation that we need to remarry America to God.

00:08:19.800 You know, if I would have said this 10 years ago, or certainly in 1963, I would have been called a madman.

00:08:29.420 But we have not just removed God, we have replaced God in our schools with drag queens. 1.00

00:08:37.200 That's how insane it is.

00:08:42.320 And until we humble ourselves, recognize our role in this, and then beg for his forgiveness and renew a covenant, I don't think we save America.

00:08:53.860 Donica, I can't wait to meet you.

00:08:57.780 I'm just so impressed by your initiative and what you've put together, and I'm just thrilled that I can be there.

00:09:05.820 Well, thank you, and I cannot take the sole credit for that.

00:09:09.560 We have a founding team of five that are working diligently together.

00:09:13.640 I was asked to write the Declaration of Covenant.

00:09:16.400 That's my strong suit.

00:09:18.200 We've actually just found out we're trying to get an annual day, a first landing annual day established,

00:09:24.860 so that the nation knows that we are a Christian nation, and that this can be a building of recognition of covenant throughout the land.

00:09:33.080 We want to get it back into the schools, and I agree with you.

00:09:37.300 Let's go there with the drag queens replacing God in the schools, you know, and how we outlawed school prayer. 1.00

00:09:43.560 You know, this, most people don't realize everything that we're doing is in the Bible.

00:09:48.620 Everything that is happening as an attack to us with drag queens in schools is a movement of the Antichrist spirit through the global elite to strip us of our identity. 1.00

00:09:58.500 So when we actually recovenant, we are recognizing our true identity in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who established covenant in this earth.

00:10:10.020 Our God made covenant with night and day.

00:10:13.500 Everything that we see is by covenant.

00:10:16.980 How can we deny and leave him?

00:10:19.460 We have left our first love in America, and this is an opportunity to save America by recovenanting with him, re-recognizing our identity in the God he created us and loves us.

00:10:33.100 And I know there are people out there listening, Glenn.

00:10:35.620 They are hurting.

00:10:37.300 They are bewildered.

00:10:38.400 They don't understand what's happening to our country.

00:10:40.940 They're going, where is God?

00:10:42.860 And he is right here.

00:10:44.920 He is right here.

00:10:45.900 We may have left him, but he has not left us.

00:10:48.780 That's the nature of covenant.

00:10:49.980 We have an opportunity to return to the God who created us before he issues us a certificate of divorce, like he did in Jeremiah 3.8 with Israel. 0.73

00:11:02.680 We have a window of time.

00:11:04.500 And I think, like you said on your incredible broadcast recently, I think it was the Tucker Carlson broadcast, that we are no longer a superpower.

00:11:13.800 We are headed to be, by 2025, a police state.

00:11:19.880 I believe this is our window of time that you have so aptly outlined, that if we, the people who are in covenant with the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, by the blood covenant of Jesus Christ, return to our first love and recovenant with God, that we will usher in a force of covenant and history that saves America.

00:11:40.760 Donika, Donika, I can't thank you enough.

00:11:43.260 Listen, I want you to go to firstlanding1607.com.

00:11:48.660 That's firstlanding1607.com.

00:11:51.820 If you can join us in Virginia Beach, great.

00:11:54.640 If you can't, join it online.

00:11:57.960 Get your church involved.

00:11:59.820 This covenant needs to be made everywhere in America.

00:12:04.400 We must restore our covenants with God and beg his forgiveness.

00:12:10.540 It really is, I believe, the only way back.

00:12:15.740 We are not fighting politicians.

00:12:19.520 We're not fighting parties.

00:12:21.160 We're fighting evil.

00:12:23.400 And it's time to recognize that and call in the big guns.

00:12:28.520 Only the Lord can take care of this at this point.

00:12:32.860 But it requires work on our side, and that work is to live as a covenant people.

00:12:39.720 Donika, thank you so much.

00:12:41.140 I'll see you next Wednesday.

00:12:42.560 Thank you so much for having me.

00:12:43.140 You bet.

00:12:43.940 Donika Hudson, Pray America, great author, First Landing 1607 Project co-founder.

00:12:49.420 Again, you can find out more about this at firstlanding1607.com.

00:12:56.300 If you're in that area, I would love to see you next Wednesday in Virginia Beach.

00:13:02.940 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:13:09.180 Alex Epstein is with us now, president and founder of the Center for Industrial Progress,

00:13:14.940 author of The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels.

00:13:17.760 He is pro-fossil fuels, anti-green agenda, and uses facts to back it all up.

00:13:26.300 How are you doing, Alex?

00:13:27.220 Good.

00:13:27.680 Good to be here.

00:13:28.320 And Stu, you're here this time.

00:13:29.500 You weren't here last time.

00:13:30.400 I know.

00:13:30.720 I missed you.

00:13:31.440 It's great to have you here.

00:13:32.580 And of course, last time I think I had you on Studios America, I was talking about your

00:13:35.840 new book, Fossil Future, which is the update to Moral Case for Fossil Fuels, and a great,

00:13:40.780 great book.

00:13:41.420 I mean, it's one I go back to all the time.

00:13:44.140 It's nonstop.

00:13:45.080 I mean, you're like a god to him, or I don't know, he's a fanboy.

00:13:49.600 Has he stalked you at any point?

00:13:51.340 Because for years you've been following him.

00:13:53.120 I've been trying to create an army of him.

00:13:56.800 It's an overweight, out-of-shape army.

00:14:00.420 We're coming together in here.

00:14:01.600 It's going to go well.

00:14:02.320 It's going to go well.

00:14:03.140 So, I have this sense that things are changing.

00:14:09.680 Things are being exposed, like the WEF and ESG.

00:14:14.600 That's been exposed now.

00:14:16.460 It's starting to be almost a joke.

00:14:19.420 And when it comes to the fossil fuel usage, I hope that it, I hope that this changes a

00:14:30.060 little quicker because we're entering a time where they're just going to choke us off and

00:14:34.920 kick the door closed behind.

00:14:37.640 Are we making progress on this?

00:14:40.380 I think so.

00:14:41.300 I think there's enough encouraging signs that people should be even more motivated to fight.

00:14:45.440 I think it's, is it Fight Back Fridays?

00:14:47.040 Is that what you call it?

00:14:47.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:14:48.000 Yeah, so, I mean, my own experiences, so I got passionate about this issue in 2007, so

00:14:53.920 almost 16 years ago now.

00:14:56.100 And for most of that period, you know, from 2007 to the present, what I would call the

00:14:59.880 case against fossil fuels has enjoyed a position of a moral monopoly.

00:15:04.060 So, basically, if you were against fossil fuels, right, if you said, I hate, I'm concerned

00:15:08.440 about climate change, I'm against fossil fuels, you just got a halo over your head.

00:15:11.940 It was just free status.

00:15:13.680 And there was no questioning of it at all.

00:15:15.960 And then if you were at all associated with questioning climate catastrophism, or let alone

00:15:20.840 supporting fossil fuels, then you had devil horns.

00:15:23.680 So, this thing where there's no debate.

00:15:26.480 And I think part of what I've helped to create and what other, what some others have helped to

00:15:29.800 create is there is increasingly a debate about this.

00:15:32.440 And I think a manifestation of this is, you mentioned the World Economic Forum, and in

00:15:36.360 particular, ESG.

00:15:37.940 When I started, you know, five or six years ago, I used to do consulting on messaging for

00:15:42.640 businesses.

00:15:43.040 Now, I just help politicians because it's more high impact.

00:15:45.520 But ESG just took the corporate world by storm, including the oil and gas industry.

00:15:50.060 And everyone just said, oh, we love ESG.

00:15:51.940 They just always parasitically adopt the new term, which is just so dangerous.

00:15:55.640 When your enemy comes up with a new term, especially with three letters, don't start

00:15:59.520 valuing those three letters, but they do that.

00:16:02.060 And it was just, nobody would question ESG.

00:16:04.100 It had a total moral monopoly.

00:16:05.760 And now look at what's happening now.

00:16:07.160 Now people have very negative associations with ESG, considerably negative associations

00:16:11.680 with the World Economic Forum.

00:16:13.240 And I think also real questions about the net zero movement.

00:16:17.280 And I think it's a combination of, I think, some of the intellectual work and activist work

00:16:21.160 some of us have done, but also the manifestation of a global energy crisis, including a lesser

00:16:26.560 energy crisis in America.

00:16:28.680 Whenever you have a crisis, the establishment is called into question.

00:16:32.460 And so I view now as a very special educational opportunity, certainly in energy, the greatest

00:16:37.660 one of my lifetime, because I was born in 1980, the 70s energy crisis was even starting

00:16:42.580 to become a memory then.

00:16:44.120 Just like inflation, people don't think it can happen if it hasn't happened recently.

00:16:47.980 Now both of those are happening, and people are open to, wait a second, maybe it doesn't

00:16:52.200 make sense to restrict all of our reliable energy without a replacement.

00:16:55.860 Maybe it doesn't make sense to just print money endlessly.

00:16:58.020 Maybe logic is valid.

00:17:00.540 Maybe.

00:17:01.420 Maybe.

00:17:01.880 Maybe.

00:17:02.500 I think the jury's still out on that, but we'll give that point to you for now.

00:17:06.520 When you look at how everything is under the umbrella of Save the Earth now, I don't

00:17:17.200 know if you saw the story about rice needing to go away if we're going to save the planet.

00:17:24.580 Rice, the grain?

00:17:26.080 Rice, the grain.

00:17:27.660 Okay.

00:17:28.600 Feeds, what?

00:17:29.620 I don't know, probably half the world.

00:17:33.140 What's it going to be replaced with?

00:17:35.700 Certainly not meat.

00:17:36.800 No, they don't.

00:17:37.480 Yeah, no, they don't have that part of it.

00:17:39.360 They're just talking about getting rid of rice.

00:17:43.320 Why would you worry about?

00:17:44.260 They'll come up, their scientists are working on something to replace rice, I'm sure.

00:17:48.960 It's got to be bugs, right?

00:17:49.820 We got to get to bugs eventually.

00:17:51.340 What's the path to eating bugs?

00:17:53.200 So when I look at this and I look at the people involved, I mean, you have said forever, a

00:17:58.620 moral case for fossil fuels because millions will die.

00:18:04.760 Millions will die if we just abandon power, electricity.

00:18:09.920 We're also now having these zealots take on our foods, meat, rice.

00:18:18.020 This is immoral.

00:18:20.460 Rice feeds.

00:18:22.280 How many people will starve without rice?

00:18:26.340 I think rice is a great example.

00:18:28.460 So I want to, since it's about to be Earth Day and I'm here in town for this event called

00:18:32.540 Earth X, which is traditionally, I think, an event for environmental catastrophists.

00:18:37.100 But I was invited because former Governor Rick Perry wanted to have me here, I guess,

00:18:42.420 as a counter.

00:18:43.140 And so he's invited me and then the Texas State Climatologist.

00:18:45.920 We're going to be on the stage together, which will be very interesting.

00:18:48.040 It's going to be great.

00:18:48.780 So yeah, yeah.

00:18:49.320 I'm hoping to get a really good recording.

00:18:50.180 You need to borrow a bulletproof vest?

00:18:51.760 I guess we haven't had any scares yet.

00:18:54.940 Let's hope.

00:18:55.480 Don't get any ideas anyway.

00:18:58.280 And so it's Earth Day.

00:18:59.160 So I want to ask kind of a question, which I think is maybe the most clarifying question

00:19:03.460 when it comes to how people look at Earth.

00:19:05.980 And it's very simple, but I think it explains how people could possibly be anti-rice in the

00:19:11.020 name of the Earth.

00:19:11.820 So the question is, what is your goal with respect to Earth?

00:19:15.360 Is it one, to advance human flourishing on Earth?

00:19:18.680 Or two, is it to eliminate human impact?

00:19:21.760 On Earth.

00:19:22.820 And I think the anti-rice goal is eliminating human impact on Earth. 0.86

00:19:27.380 It's Malthusian.

00:19:28.180 Because an Earth, from a human perspective, an Earth with rice is a better Earth. 0.99

00:19:32.720 Right.

00:19:33.600 Right.

00:19:34.220 And an Earth with fossil fuels is a better Earth.

00:19:37.480 And so that's my perspective.

00:19:38.780 I have a pro-human environmental philosophy, and I think that's the root of all of this.

00:19:43.260 What is your stance on fossil fuels being fossil fuels or just some natural thing that, I mean,

00:19:51.440 apparently it's bubbling up from the ocean floor all the time.

00:19:55.440 It's part of nature.

00:19:56.540 Yeah, I think it's mostly, I mean, it's more of a question for gas, but I think it's mostly

00:20:00.880 ancient biological matter.

00:20:03.300 I mean, this stuff can naturally occur.

00:20:05.020 You see that on Saturn, like hydrocarbons, which are, you know, that's what fossil fuels

00:20:08.160 are.

00:20:08.560 They can naturally occur.

00:20:09.420 But if you look at, and this is not my area of expertise, but if you look at how people

00:20:14.560 explore for oil, they're geologists who study the history of life.

00:20:18.200 So the vast majority of people I know who are actually finding this stuff definitely

00:20:22.160 believe in what's called the biogenic theory.

00:20:24.940 And wouldn't that be just the perfect way for a self-sustaining ecosystem to work, that

00:20:32.300 it would take stuff that has died and is being regenerated into something else that is useful?

00:20:41.400 Well, I mean, the criticism would be, I think it's a good point.

00:20:44.520 The criticism is, oh, we're taking it at a faster rate.

00:20:46.720 So we're, we're burning the stuff at a faster rate than it decomposed.

00:20:50.600 Now, from a certain perspective, why, and from my perspective, like, why do I care about

00:20:55.260 that?

00:20:55.520 Because we don't need to use the stuff forever.

00:20:57.580 We use the stuff and we discover better things like nuclear.

00:21:00.880 So we've got more than 10 times more, quote, fossil fuel underground than we've used in the

00:21:05.220 whole history of civilization.

00:21:06.460 We're not running out of it.

00:21:07.720 We're running out of the freedom to harness it.

00:21:09.320 That's what's, that's what's scary.

00:21:11.140 So yeah, it's, it's a great thing.

00:21:13.340 Another perspective that's even more controversial is, well, in a sense, we're returning the CO2

00:21:19.360 for, to the atmosphere because we had very high CO2 that was absorbed, you know, by like

00:21:25.140 a lot of marine organisms.

00:21:26.500 We're returning it to the atmosphere.

00:21:28.020 Isn't that more, quote, natural?

00:21:29.620 So it's interesting that they, they hate anything that's impacted by humans, even if we're making

00:21:34.220 it more like it used to be.

00:21:35.620 Correct.

00:21:36.960 Um, when you look at, um, the road we're on, especially this push from Biden and the

00:21:44.800 world economic forum to get all cars to be batteries.

00:21:49.740 I mean, there is the whole thing falls apart.

00:21:52.560 Um, when you just start to take it logically, do we have the transmission lines to be able

00:21:59.440 to put all of wherever you're getting it from?

00:22:03.600 Let's say, you know, ancient space monkeys come down and teach us how to make more electricity.

00:22:10.000 We don't have the power lines to distribute this kind of stuff that fast.

00:22:15.540 Do we?

00:22:16.840 Certainly not.

00:22:17.920 Now.

00:22:18.300 I mean, I just think of it as it's very valuable.

00:22:21.020 I think just to return to basic principles and the basic principles of, you know, a free

00:22:26.020 economy is what do we do?

00:22:28.200 If you have a good idea, you are free to offer it to the market and see how it goes.

00:22:33.860 It is not a good idea to try to make 67% of new us vehicles electric by the year 2032

00:22:40.640 that for a million different reasons, which is why it's not even close to happening.

00:22:44.260 We have 6% adoption with massive government subsidies.

00:22:47.920 People don't want these things.

00:22:48.900 And the basic reasons are they're not as cost effective for the typical person.

00:22:52.500 And we have a decline in the availability of reliable electricity.

00:22:56.300 And why would you have a massive increase in demand?

00:23:00.000 But you have car companies that are going out of the combustion engine.

00:23:06.440 I mean, yeah, they're there.

00:23:08.580 I mean, it's one of these situations where there's if everyone else is doing it, it can't

00:23:13.460 be that bad.

00:23:14.160 It's just people really think, oh, if the government is behind it, if Joe Biden's word is

00:23:18.860 behind it, it must work.

00:23:21.080 Like some politicians just think they're just magical.

00:23:24.660 Like they can just say words and then those words will just come true.

00:23:29.280 So they can just say, oh, yeah, by 20.

00:23:30.980 But look at Newsom, right?

00:23:32.120 I mean, five days after he announced no more internal combustion engine vehicles in 2035,

00:23:36.400 he had to tell us as residents of California, don't charge your EV.

00:23:40.980 And by the way, don't use your air conditioning during a heat wave.

00:23:43.460 This is this is what the few percent EV penetration and they're talking about making it close to

00:23:48.460 100 percent.

00:23:49.520 So it's what's happening is the worst crackpot ideas are being dictated.

00:23:54.240 This is why we don't want anyone's ideas dictated, even smart people's. 0.99

00:23:57.640 What's problem is these people aren't only dumb, but they're anti human at the core. 0.99

00:24:02.200 They're against energy, right? 1.00

00:24:03.920 They're you see them being against rice.

00:24:05.760 They're against really what they're against is human impact.

00:24:07.660 So it's the combination of the evil of government planning, which is just government dictating

00:24:12.520 combined with an anti human motive.

00:24:15.360 At least the communists had a semi anti human motive at a semi pro human motive.

00:24:19.040 But the Greens, their core motive is eliminating human impact from Earth.

00:24:23.060 So you don't want people dictating you to hurt yourself.

00:24:26.740 It really is fascinating.

00:24:28.400 Now, they say, look, we've got a they're saying it is a pro human outlook.

00:24:33.500 They're saying there's a catastrophe around the corner.

00:24:35.920 We have to stop it.

00:24:37.040 We have not been thinking about these things for too long.

00:24:39.840 And now we have to do something about it.

00:24:41.060 So, yeah, you know, EVs might be more expensive and they might have some costs up front.

00:24:45.040 But that's why we need the government to step in and and and take the reins.

00:24:50.280 I mean, there's a lot to take apart there, but let's just take the idea of, OK, we have

00:24:53.660 a looming catastrophe.

00:24:55.260 So I have a very simple rule that will rule out 85 percent of people's predictions, which

00:25:00.360 is I only accept predictions about the future from people who accurately portray the present.

00:25:05.420 So if they acknowledge that's a good rule for the if they acknowledge, hey, you know what?

00:25:11.180 Human beings are currently in a climate renaissance and we're far safer from climate related disasters

00:25:16.040 than ever.

00:25:16.800 The average person is one 50th is likely to die from a climate related disaster because

00:25:20.280 the rate of death has gone down 98 percent in the last hundred years.

00:25:23.560 If they said it's amazing now.

00:25:25.320 And so we've had one degree of warming.

00:25:26.760 The earth is much more livable than it used to be.

00:25:28.700 It's also greener.

00:25:29.720 Life is better, mostly because of all the energy that came with the fossil fuels.

00:25:32.660 But there is a looming disaster for X, Y, Z reason.

00:25:36.420 I would listen.

00:25:37.280 But they say, no, no, the climate is terrible today.

00:25:39.380 It's never been worse.

00:25:40.320 And then they give anecdotes of this person died, this person died, making you think that

00:25:43.640 the death rate is higher.

00:25:45.360 Why would I trust them to predict the future if they can't predict the present?

00:25:48.500 Either there's only two possibilities. 0.99

00:25:50.300 Oh, not of trusting them, but they're only doing it because one, they are ignorant or two, 0.98

00:25:54.780 they have a different goal. 0.83

00:25:56.160 And this goes back to is their goal to advance human flourishing on earth or is it to eliminate

00:26:00.500 human impact on earth?

00:26:01.540 See, I think the elites have a very anti-human view.

00:26:06.520 I mean, everything that is being done now across the board is to enslave or to kill humans.

00:26:16.120 You know what I mean?

00:26:16.800 Tell them exactly what to do every second of the day.

00:26:20.340 You're only going to you're going to have to walk if you live in this area.

00:26:23.980 There's no cars for you.

00:26:25.460 Your car can only drive so far.

00:26:27.880 That's that's crazy.

00:26:29.540 And I think they have a real Malthusian attitude. 0.98

00:26:32.660 And I think the majority of the people who are just lapdog followers are ignorant of the 0.96

00:26:40.220 real facts. 0.80

00:26:41.440 Yeah, I mean, I think Malthusian is actually charitable to them.

00:26:45.520 Well, it's an aspect of it.

00:26:46.960 It's an aspect of it. 0.95

00:26:47.640 It's what I call the parasite polluter view of human beings.

00:26:51.080 So this is the view that earth is what I call a delicate nurturer.

00:26:53.580 So it's stable, sufficient.

00:26:55.360 It gives us enough as long as we're not too greedy and it's safe. 0.86

00:26:57.580 And then human beings are parasite polluters and our impact ruins it. 0.68

00:27:01.540 Yeah.

00:27:01.740 So there's that aspect of running out of resources.

00:27:03.600 But there's also this idea of like everything we do ruins earth.

00:27:07.820 And at the core, that's obviously not true.

00:27:10.100 Like we we make water clean.

00:27:11.960 Nature doesn't just have Evian and Perrier flowing all over the place.

00:27:14.560 And we ruin it.

00:27:15.460 Like we make clean water, right?

00:27:16.980 We make the air a lot cleaner than it was when we use wood.

00:27:19.200 Like we make our environment unnaturally clean and safe.

00:27:22.000 So you can't not know that.

00:27:23.840 So I think it's really a belief that human impact is evil.

00:27:26.960 But notice they don't think bear impact is evil.

00:27:29.400 Beaver impact is.

00:27:30.280 So it's it's a distinctly anti-human view.

00:27:33.960 It's that's why I call it human racism, because it's the view that the human race is particularly

00:27:38.580 evil, that our impact is evil and the rest of nature's impact is good.

00:27:42.520 And this is a mainstream view.

00:27:43.520 It goes by green.

00:27:44.300 Green means minimize or eliminate human impact.

00:27:46.620 It's an uncontroversial idea.

00:27:48.200 So this is how far we are against in terms of hating our species and our nature.

00:27:53.320 So, Alex, I feel like they don't normally let you on stage with climatologists to debate.

00:27:59.060 Is that what this is?

00:27:59.860 Is this a debate that you're participating in while you're here?

00:28:03.460 It's not a debate.

00:28:04.620 It's a discussion.

00:28:05.780 Hopefully it's a lively discussion.

00:28:08.200 Oh, I think it will be.

00:28:10.540 When you get in these moments, because you've had some some high profile back and forth with,

00:28:18.980 you know, with climatologists and scientists talking about this stuff, you know, they say

00:28:25.080 that you're not even allowed to participate in these debates because you you're you're

00:28:28.780 no scientist.

00:28:29.360 You're not an expert, but you are an expert.

00:28:32.540 How do you deal with that approach, which basically tries to eliminate this entire perspective

00:28:36.820 from the conversation?

00:28:37.720 You're just not an expert that they have deemed an expert.

00:28:42.020 Yeah, that's the deal.

00:28:43.460 I mean, so the you're not a scientist type thing is really revealing because what we're

00:28:48.740 dealing with are policy questions, right?

00:28:50.820 The question is what to do.

00:28:51.960 And that always has a moral component.

00:28:53.520 So policy questions always have value.

00:28:55.220 So they're never fully resolved by a factual one discipline.

00:28:59.100 They're also always interdisciplinary.

00:29:00.280 So energy questions when energy impacts climate, obviously energy expertise is relevant.

00:29:05.520 And that's what I have primarily.

00:29:06.640 I know quite a bit about climate.

00:29:08.180 Most of these climate guys know nothing about energy.

00:29:10.320 I certainly know infinitely more about climate than they know about energy.

00:29:13.120 But it just shows that the only focus with fossil fuels and climate is what are the negative

00:29:18.720 climate effects of fossil fuels?

00:29:20.320 And this is where I think as a philosopher, I really have the expertise because they're

00:29:23.900 looking again, this question of is your goal to advance human flourishing on earth or eliminate

00:29:28.140 human impact on earth?

00:29:29.000 They're looking at the issue of fossil fuels from the perspective of our goal is to eliminate

00:29:33.340 impact.

00:29:33.820 So all they can think about is, oh, we're impacting the climate and that's bad and we should repent

00:29:37.660 and we should stop.

00:29:38.420 They don't look at the benefits.

00:29:40.020 But from a human flourishing perspective, you look at fossil fuels and you look at how

00:29:43.460 much better have they made the earth, including how much safer are we from climate due to

00:29:47.800 things like irrigation and heating and cooling and sturdy buildings.

00:29:50.600 And I do think this is, I think, Stu, you mentioned my book, Fossil Future.

00:29:54.520 I think this is really the distinctive thing about Fossil Future is it's the only book that

00:29:58.620 looks fully at our energy choices from a purely human flourishing perspective.

00:30:03.320 And what people are shocked by is how different that is, how differently you look at the same

00:30:08.280 thing, this, you know, the coal and oil and gas, when you look at it and the earth from a human

00:30:13.400 flourishing perspective.

00:30:14.700 It just totally changes your mind.

00:30:16.200 You look at it, oh my gosh, I'm so glad these guys figured how to turn the glop into human

00:30:20.280 life.

00:30:20.780 It's made the earth better. 0.55

00:30:22.080 Not, it should have stayed underground and we should have stayed savages.

00:30:24.560 And if we don't educate ourselves, we are going to end up figuring that out, not from

00:30:29.700 a book, but from real life as we're cold, dark, and hungry.

00:30:36.080 Alex, thank you so much.

00:30:37.560 God bless.

00:30:38.100 Thanks for having me, guys.

00:30:39.500 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:30:41.880 Justin Haskins is on with us.

00:30:46.260 He is the Heartland Institute Socialism Research Center director, probably more famous as the

00:30:53.980 co-author with his unbelievable, talented, good looking sidekick, who is also the co-author

00:31:04.020 of that book called The Great Reset and an upcoming book called Dark Future.

00:31:11.880 Justin, welcome.

00:31:13.800 Good morning.

00:31:14.740 Good morning, Glenn.

00:31:15.440 You know, I love the idea of you being my sidekick.

00:31:20.480 I'm going to plaster that everywhere.

00:31:25.080 I would have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for these kids in their mystery van.

00:31:30.620 You've always been your own worst enemy.

00:31:32.520 I know.

00:31:33.140 So, Justin, I got this news.

00:31:37.440 I've been saving it for Friday on the program.

00:31:40.440 I got this news late, I think Wednesday, and it took everything in me to keep it quiet yesterday.

00:31:47.000 This is huge, what happened in Florida.

00:31:49.640 Yeah, Florida is, it is essentially a done deal in Florida.

00:31:55.240 They are going to pass the most comprehensive, toughest, most important anti-ESG social credit

00:32:03.260 scoring bill that we have ever seen.

00:32:06.100 Probably anywhere in the entire world.

00:32:08.320 This is the toughest thing.

00:32:09.340 For the past year and a half or so, many of us have been fighting in, you know, two dozen

00:32:17.020 states, you've been covering it on your show, trying to get a really solid ESG bill passed.

00:32:23.860 There's been some progress made in a lot of places.

00:32:26.940 They have put some legislation into place.

00:32:29.420 But nothing that goes so far as to protect the individual from ESG.

00:32:35.360 They usually have to do with investments, state investments, state contracts, things like

00:32:40.680 that.

00:32:41.180 But this is the first time that a state is on the verge of passing a bill that will protect

00:32:48.520 individuals from banks and other financial institutions using ESG and social credit scores

00:32:54.880 to discriminate against people, to try to force the entire economy to transform along the

00:33:00.620 Great Reset line.

00:33:01.500 This is a huge part of what the Great Reset is.

00:33:05.300 You and I did not think that what we're seeing in Florida right now would happen.

00:33:11.000 No, I mean, yeah, hang on just a second.

00:33:14.660 Two years ago, when we first released the Great Reset, I remember looking at you and you

00:33:20.980 looking at me and we're like, is anybody even going to care or read this book?

00:33:25.400 And we wrote it with that knowledge that maybe nobody will read it, but it was so important

00:33:32.220 for everybody to understand.

00:33:34.760 Look at, I mean, ESG and the WEF, they are on the ropes.

00:33:41.320 And it's in good part due to this audience reading and spreading the word about this book.

00:33:48.220 It's crazy what's happened.

00:33:49.920 Yes, without a doubt.

00:33:51.780 I remember having those meetings in your office.

00:33:54.600 I remember you telling me over and over and over again, Justin, we have to find hope.

00:34:00.260 We've got to provide hope.

00:34:01.720 And I said, Glenn, there is no hope.

00:34:04.260 I'll never forget you saying that.

00:34:06.560 It's all over.

00:34:07.900 And you said, no, no, we have to find a way.

00:34:10.200 We have to find a way.

00:34:11.220 And I remember saying to you, Glenn, it's too far.

00:34:13.540 Okay, we'll come up with something. 0.83

00:34:15.380 But you do realize we're screwed, right? 0.93

00:34:17.560 Yeah. 0.98

00:34:18.180 Yeah, we are.

00:34:19.020 And I said, yes.

00:34:20.480 I said, yes, I know.

00:34:21.700 But we've got to hold out.

00:34:22.860 Because both of us knew how far along this was.

00:34:28.180 And if you don't act quickly, it's over.

00:34:31.940 And it is being beaten back.

00:34:34.740 And a month ago, I would have never thought that Florida or any state would have passed something

00:34:43.380 this strong.

00:34:44.340 I mean, it covers all of the bases that we have been preaching about, traveling the country,

00:34:50.680 talking about.

00:34:51.860 I mean, it's an incredible bill.

00:34:54.500 It makes Florida the safest state, if it passes, the safest state against the WEF and safest government

00:35:06.020 probably in the world.

00:35:08.520 Yes, without a doubt.

00:35:11.640 The bill is incredible.

00:35:13.480 State Representative Bob Rommel and State Senator Aaron Grawl deserve tons of credit.

00:35:18.580 Of course, Ron DeSantis, who has already said that he's going to sign the bill.

00:35:22.440 The bill has been passed by the House and passed by the Senate.

00:35:25.740 So there's no reason to believe this isn't going to be signed any day now by Ron DeSantis,

00:35:30.700 who has been an absolute champion warrior for this bill and an anti-ESG warrior nationally now.

00:35:39.480 He's becoming a national figure for this.

00:35:41.660 And, of course, the House leadership, the Senate leadership, all behind this as well.

00:35:46.180 And that's the difference.

00:35:47.220 See, we've seen this introduced in numerous other states.

00:35:50.380 But in every other state where something like this has been introduced,

00:35:54.020 it's been killed by establishment Republicans, by bank lobbyists, by corrupt organizations,

00:36:01.960 some of which claim to be conservative.

00:36:03.920 These are the people who have been killing these bills all across the country,

00:36:07.880 including in deep, deep red states like Idaho and Kansas and other places.

00:36:13.280 But in Florida, because they had leadership behind it from the very beginning,

00:36:17.740 with Ron DeSantis and with Paul Renner, the House Speaker, and Catherine Pasadomo.

00:36:23.840 I mean, these people, Kathleen Pasadomo, I mean, these people are the heroes of this.

00:36:29.200 And, you know, and I also think there's a lot of people out there who think,

00:36:32.700 well, I don't live in Florida, so this doesn't matter to me.

00:36:35.180 Oh, it does. It does.

00:36:37.100 Yeah, this is going to change the entire landscape of this fight.

00:36:40.620 Right. Everywhere else, it's going to be easier to pass this legislation.

00:36:45.220 And the people who have been working on the ground on this nationwide,

00:36:48.400 like Eddie Grandy and Audrey Decker at Pro Family Legislative Network,

00:36:52.220 these people are heroes.

00:36:54.260 Heroes.

00:36:54.720 Heroes.

00:36:55.460 This is going to change the entire fight against the Great Reset going forward.

00:36:59.540 So the Democrats said a couple of things.

00:37:03.700 Senator Jason Pizzo said the bill is absolutely laughable.

00:37:08.540 It shows that we are not a business friendly state.

00:37:13.060 Democratic Senator Tina Scott Polsky said socialism is a state of control of production,

00:37:20.140 distribution and change of goods and services.

00:37:23.100 I will vote for capitalism.

00:37:25.120 And that's why I vote no on this bill.

00:37:28.700 This is incredible the way they have turned where you have Democrats claiming that they are pro business by by stopping anything to stop ESG and how many Republicans and conservatives buy into it.

00:37:47.220 It's nuts.

00:37:47.800 It's absolutely nuts.

00:37:49.880 The idea that this is that ESG, that social credit scores, that collusion amongst all these massive corporations and banks all over the world,

00:37:58.060 all going flying off to Davos, colluding about how they're going to fundamentally transform our entire economy.

00:38:04.500 The idea that that is somehow free market economics, when they don't give a crap about what the average consumer wants.

00:38:11.720 They're not listening to supply and demand.

00:38:13.800 They're not following any of the normal rules or laws of economics.

00:38:17.640 And yet somehow this is supposed to be about protecting the free market.

00:38:21.740 Give me a break.

00:38:23.340 That is a total, total joke.

00:38:26.640 The only reason anyone on the left wants this is because it is a mechanism for controlling society, which many people on the left love.

00:38:34.900 And the only reason some establishment Republicans, I think, have been so hesitant to go in this direction is either because they don't understand it,

00:38:43.000 if we're going to give them the benefit of the doubt, or because, frankly, they're cronyist. 0.96

00:38:46.780 They're corrupt.

00:38:47.820 They're in with big business interests that want this kind of control. 0.97

00:38:50.820 And big banks.

00:38:51.620 Let me let me show you an example.

00:38:55.740 I don't know if you've heard this news, but we had Dr.

00:38:58.120 Eric Henson on a couple of weeks ago.

00:39:00.260 Texas Medical Board suspended his medical license because he didn't obey the mask mandate in 2021.

00:39:07.600 So just a few months ago, they suspend him as a doctor for something that happened in 2021.

00:39:13.920 And he was right on.

00:39:16.660 And so they they suspend him.

00:39:18.780 He loses his license and he comes on the show.

00:39:21.640 We tell call the Texas Medical Board and say enough is enough here.

00:39:27.780 And they did like the next day they granted his license.

00:39:32.240 Then we found out the day after that the hospital that he had privileges at and the insurance company that he had both dropped him.

00:39:43.880 So good luck with your medical your medical license.

00:39:48.160 You can't use it.

00:39:50.020 OK, that's ESG.

00:39:51.660 So we went on the air to Tuesday or Wednesday and I said, you got to call the hospital, got to call the hospital.

00:40:01.280 And people called within six hours.

00:40:04.100 He was reinstated at that hospital.

00:40:07.220 The only one that's going to be tough is the insurance company.

00:40:12.080 And and that is the biggest partner.

00:40:16.280 The banks and the insurance companies are the biggest hammers to fall.

00:40:20.940 If he was living in Florida under this new bill, he wouldn't have a problem.

00:40:26.140 It'd be much it'd be much harder for any of this kind of thing to happen.

00:40:30.240 And for every story like that, that you hear, see, not every person who's discriminated against gets their story featured by Glenn Beck on the radio and hundreds or thousands of people calling, demanding that their employer reinstate that.

00:40:44.800 That doesn't usually happen.

00:40:46.860 No.

00:40:47.140 In ninety nine percent of the cases or more than that, you never even hear about it.

00:40:52.360 And that's why you need laws on the books to protect people.

00:40:55.640 And and if you don't have fair access law like they now have in Florida, which conservatives have been fighting against, you don't even know you become a conspiracy theorist because you're like, wait a minute, the medical board, then the hospital and then the insurance company.

00:41:12.740 They all cancel me and they cancel me after I'm reinstated.

00:41:17.980 Not when I lose my medical license, but I'm reinstated.

00:41:21.680 And that's when they tell me, well, if you don't have fair access, you can't prove it because they don't have to answer any questions.

00:41:30.840 That's the problem.

00:41:32.200 Well, the reason that you and I were so concerned about the Great Reset when we first started learning about it, even before we were really vocal about what it was fully explaining to the audience, what what's going on is because we understood how deep the collusion was.

00:41:47.160 Yes. And we thought a lot of people just wouldn't believe it because it seemed so unbelievable how much coordination and how much collusion and how much corruption was going on and how much money had been poured into this system where they're all coordinating on these issues like, you know, vaccine mandates or whatever the issue is.

00:42:06.460 Trans, whatever.

00:42:07.480 It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Whatever they decide to be the issue, they're all coordinating. And that's why Davos matters. That's why the World Economic Forum matters.

00:42:16.560 That's why the Great Reset matters. And it matters why Joe Biden and all of these people are in these vast public-private partnerships with these major corporations.

00:42:24.740 It's not because the World Economic Forum actually has political power in and of itself.

00:42:29.760 It's because it's because it's about coordinating all these institutions all over the world working hand-in-hand in lockstep to take away your freedoms and to advance their cause.

00:42:40.260 And I truly believe there are big companies. I think Budweiser is one of them. Look, Budweiser, owned by, you know, Augie Bush, that they're conservatives.

00:42:48.940 And do you really think they wanted to release that? You know, I don't buy their cock and bull story that, oh, it was just some low level. No, it wasn't.

00:42:59.860 That's the job of that individual to get you a higher CEI score to.

00:43:06.160 And the only way you can get this score is if you are using your advertising to support and grow LGBTQ2 plus knowledge.

00:43:19.180 So you've got to take your money. It doesn't say, hey, no, we have a fair workspace.

00:43:23.080 You have to take your money and do something like Budweiser did.

00:43:27.120 Well, it's suicidal. And I don't think they want to do it, you know, at least at the corporate level, the highest levels.

00:43:34.920 But they did it because if they don't, they get a bad score on CEI and nobody does business with them.

00:43:45.000 Right. And there's and there's a ton of examples of that sort of thing happening.

00:43:48.480 You have fossil fuel companies like ExxonMobil throwing members of the board out of the door because they're not willing to phase out fossil fuels.

00:43:59.180 It's a fossil fuel company. Why would they ever do that? Because that's how the Great Reset works.

00:44:05.740 Everybody knows who's involved with this, that you have to go along.

00:44:09.960 You have to chase the money. You have to go where the black rocks of the world are going and the other big institutional investors and the banks,

00:44:17.860 because if all the banks and all the black rocks of the world and State Street Global Advisors and all those people are moving in one direction together as a group and you go against them, you will be destroyed.

00:44:29.720 It's racketeering.

00:44:30.520 And we know this because they've said this numerous times publicly.

00:44:34.280 Yeah, it is. It's racketeering at the highest levels I think ever seen on Earth.

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