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00:00:04.340 We have warned on the right about expanding the court for a long time now.

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00:00:12.500 And the Utah GOP expands the state Supreme Court?

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00:00:20.460 Also, Allie Beth Stuckey, she's just been lambasted in an editorial written by Hillary Rodham Clinton about how evil Allie Beth is. 0.99

00:00:28.960 She's a good friend of the program, and she's going to talk about that and why Hillary Clinton has it all wrong.

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00:02:57.400 Hey, Allie, how are you?

00:02:59.240 I'm feeling well.

00:03:00.580 How are you?

00:03:01.960 I am great.

00:03:03.040 Allie Bestucki, who is the host of Relatable on Blaze TV and author of a great book, Toxic Empathy.

00:03:10.300 So I found out this weekend that I was in the Epstein files.

00:03:15.420 And I first went, what?

00:03:18.520 And then I realized it was him and some other dirtbag writing about basically how much they hate me and my listeners.

00:03:26.700 And I was like, oh, I got to make a T-shirt.

00:03:30.720 I was in the Epstein files because they hated me.

00:03:33.000 I love that.

00:03:33.680 Yeah, that is a huge compliment.

00:03:37.600 Yeah, it is, isn't it?

00:03:38.900 You've got an even bigger one.

00:03:40.400 You've got Hillary Clinton writing an op-ed about how toxic your Toxic Empathy book is. 1.00

00:03:49.640 I mean, that's got to feel good.

00:03:51.840 Yeah.

00:03:52.180 You know, I was talking to my dad and husband, just having a nice afternoon chat.

00:03:56.920 And I looked down at my phone and it started buzzing.

00:03:59.380 And I got a message that said, Hillary Rodham Clinton just wrote a hit piece on you, in all caps.

00:04:06.960 And I couldn't believe it until I read it myself.

00:04:09.780 And what's interesting about this is that, you know, my book is not new.

00:04:13.240 It came out in October of 2024.

00:04:15.720 So about 15 months later, we've got the former secretary,

00:04:19.060 of state, Hillary Rodham Clinton, taking out 6,000 words in the Atlantic to talk about

00:04:24.620 how terrible my book is.

00:04:26.700 You know, it is a badge of honor.

00:04:28.720 It also helped book sales a little bit.

00:04:31.780 But honestly, I'm just trying to wonder what, try to figure out what her strategy is.

00:04:38.180 So explain Toxic Empathy, what it is.

00:04:41.800 Yes.

00:04:42.440 Yes.

00:04:42.920 This is something that she didn't distinguish in her op-ed to no surprise.

00:04:47.080 You know, I think the left actually understands the concept.

00:04:50.240 They talk about things like toxic masculinity.

00:04:52.400 And what they'll say is that not all masculinity is toxic, but this form of masculinity is toxic.

00:04:58.300 And yet, when I talk about toxic empathy, they pretend that I'm saying that all compassion

00:05:02.920 is toxic and bad.

00:05:04.100 And that's not what I'm saying at all.

00:05:05.820 Well, I say that empathy becomes toxic when it leads you to do three things, to affirm

00:05:10.520 sin, to validate lies, or to support destructive policies.

00:05:14.580 So your empathy becomes toxic when you feel so deeply for one particular person, a purported 0.99

00:05:20.580 victim, that you are blinded to both reality and morality.

00:05:24.520 You are so focused on this person that you forget that there are other people on the other

00:05:28.180 side of the moral equation.

00:05:29.400 So you feel so deeply for the man who says that he is born in the wrong body and is meant

00:05:34.680 to be a woman that you forget about biological reality and ignore the rights and the privacy 1.00

00:05:40.000 and the fairness of the girls on the other side of the equation. 0.98

00:05:42.940 So I think that toxic empathy is really the explanation for the support of all kinds of destructive

00:05:48.780 policies when it comes to immigration, crime, gender, abortion.

00:05:53.180 And so it doesn't surprise me at all that progressives don't like that we're giving that a name and

00:05:58.100 calling it out.

00:05:59.580 So, Allie, explain it.

00:06:01.600 Go specific on the use of toxic empathy or the demonstration of toxic empathy, for instance,

00:06:11.120 in Minnesota.

00:06:12.080 Yeah.

00:06:13.800 Yes, such a good question.

00:06:15.560 So we see this decontextualized image of this young boy, and he's standing with law enforcement

00:06:20.640 officers, and immediately and rightly, it evokes a sense of sadness and outrage and pity for

00:06:27.340 this boy who was put in this situation.

00:06:29.660 And then a narrative is attached to it.

00:06:32.740 And instead of asking, hey, is this true or what's the alternative explanation, our hearts

00:06:37.580 want to believe that it's true because it seems right that this boy was kidnapped by these ICE

00:06:42.640 agents.

00:06:43.180 He was separated from his family.

00:06:44.860 And this is the cruelty of the Trump administration.

00:06:46.800 There's some confirmation bias there, but really, we just feel so deeply for this boy that we

00:06:53.080 believe the victim narrative that has been attached to him.

00:06:56.840 And then because of that, you say riots are justified, the protests are justified, and abolishing

00:07:03.680 ICE or defunding the police are all justified in the name of helping little boys like Liam.

00:07:10.840 The problem is your empathy for that boy has actually blinded you to what is true.

00:07:15.200 It has paralyzed your critical thinking.

00:07:17.460 So you're not asking the question that all of us need to ask.

00:07:20.800 How do I know that's true?

00:07:22.320 What's the greater context?

00:07:24.220 Can I believe this person?

00:07:26.060 What are the sources being cited?

00:07:28.040 And what is the other side of the story that we are not being told?

00:07:32.920 That is the danger of allowing your empathy to overtake or eclipse your critical thinking

00:07:41.460 skills.

00:07:41.940 We have to have both compassion and this truth and love approach that is, you know, necessary

00:07:48.700 in our critical thinking process as we decide on policy.

00:07:52.540 You know, when you look at the Democrats, I've got something I'm going to talk about here

00:07:59.200 in a little while about how the things that they're shouting at people, the things they're

00:08:04.880 saying about, you know, I hope you die.

00:08:07.420 I hope your wife dies. 1.00

00:08:08.580 I hope your children are killed, all of these things.

00:08:12.620 And, and they say, they claim they're doing it out of love.

00:08:17.780 They claim they're on the side of love.

00:08:21.340 And those two things don't connect at all.

00:08:26.280 I mean, that, that was the genius of Martin Luther King and Gandhi and Jesus. 0.61

00:08:30.420 He connected them, your, your words and your actions must demonstrate love and never cross

00:08:37.540 into hatred or retaliation, revenge, any of that stuff.

00:08:41.900 And they held the line.

00:08:44.040 These guys don't have a line.

00:08:45.980 And so, and I think it's because of the loss of eternal truth.

00:08:50.240 They've, they've lost or maybe never had some of them, the understanding of what Jesus was

00:08:56.440 actually teaching or what Martin Luther King was actually teaching.

00:09:00.200 And so they've become, um, the exact opposite of those.

00:09:05.420 And yet they don't see it.

00:09:08.440 Yeah.

00:09:09.080 Gosh, so many good points there.

00:09:10.600 There was a book that came out before mine in 2016 that wrote about the dangers of empathy

00:09:15.220 from a secular psychological perspective by a Yale psychologist named Paul Bloom.

00:09:20.560 And he talks about this concept of being full of empathy, but mean as hell.

00:09:24.520 And what he measured was that in students that measured higher on empathy, that they are

00:09:29.480 actually crueler to the out group.

00:09:32.280 So what happens is you feel so deeply for one purported victim that anyone who you see as

00:09:38.020 in opposition to that victim.

00:09:39.560 So in opposition to the illegal immigrant, in opposition to the woman seeking abortion, you 0.62

00:09:44.060 can justify cruelty and hatred against them because in your mind, you are fighting against

00:09:48.920 the oppressor.

00:09:50.700 And so really what happens there is when you exchange empathy for virtue, Christian virtue,

00:09:56.260 what you're talking about, it actually doesn't make you more loving on the whole.

00:10:01.240 It actually can make you cruel towards the people that you now perceive as your enemy.

00:10:06.400 And that is why exchanging the truth in love, exchanging true virtue for empathy is actually a very

00:10:13.980 harmful exchange.

00:10:16.760 So my concern, the thing I think of every day is how do we point this out?

00:10:25.660 How do we save people?

00:10:27.960 Because I think this is why they emphasized on your feelings.

00:10:32.860 They emphasized your feelings, your feelings, your feelings, you know, and Ben Shapiro for

00:10:37.760 years said, facts don't care about your feelings, but that's why they emphasize feelings.

00:10:41.940 Because if you concentrate on feelings, then reason shuts down and, and then you get enraged

00:10:48.420 and it shuts down even further.

00:10:50.160 So you have all of these people that I think they're actually thinking they're doing the right

00:10:55.660 thing, but they've shut down the thinking process so deeply that they're, they're not, I mean,

00:11:03.000 they're just trapped.

00:11:04.320 So how do you reverse this?

00:11:07.220 Yes, because feelings also don't care about your facts and that's exactly why they emphasize

00:11:11.680 the emotion.

00:11:13.180 And so, yes, facts and logic, all of those things are so important and do have the power.

00:11:17.420 They can have the power to be persuasive and pull people out of their delusion.

00:11:21.000 However, I also think that we need to tell the story on the other side of every issue.

00:11:27.000 Something I do in my book, I tell the story that the media is telling, for example, about

00:11:31.920 a woman who wants an abortion, but has been forced by these evil pro-life laws in Texas 1.00

00:11:36.620 to keep her child.

00:11:38.520 And of course, the left sees that as something that is draconian.

00:11:41.740 But I tell the story from the baby's perspective.

00:11:44.880 This is what would have happened to this baby had there not been this pro-life law in Texas. 0.94

00:11:49.540 She would have been poisoned.

00:11:50.620 She would have been dismembered.

00:11:52.660 She would have been tossed aside like toxic waste. 1.00

00:11:55.140 It was actually because of this pro-life law that she was carried, that she was delivered,

00:11:58.760 loved, and named, and buried like the dignified image bearer of God that she was.

00:12:03.540 Sometimes people need to see that there is another side of the story that demands your

00:12:08.000 heart, too.

00:12:09.500 There are Kate Steinleys.

00:12:11.340 There are Lake and Rileys.

00:12:13.220 There are Molly Tibbettses who are also your neighbors that need your compassion and your

00:12:18.240 eyes and your love.

00:12:19.260 And when you allow people to zoom out and show them, there are other people on the other

00:12:23.780 side of this political issue that you're talking about, sometimes that expands their understanding

00:12:30.100 to the point that they can be persuaded by facts.

00:12:32.640 I'm just making a list here of, as I'm listening to you, I'm making a list of the things that

00:12:39.180 led to all this that you have to reverse.

00:12:41.540 I mean, this is why, you know, feelings were so important.

00:12:45.060 This is why ends justify the means that was so important to them.

00:12:50.060 Because you can do anything if just what happens in the end is all that matters.

00:12:54.580 You can justify anything.

00:12:56.880 Why they kept shouting, shut up, shut up, shut up, don't ask questions.

00:13:01.160 Just go along with it.

00:13:02.720 I mean, all of these things built this army of almost automatons that are just not thinking

00:13:11.760 for themselves.

00:13:12.680 When you think about those agitators that infiltrated that church in St. Paul, one of

00:13:20.020 the refrains that they were repeating was, hands up, don't shoot.

00:13:23.460 So still, however many years later, is it 12 years later, maybe, they are still repeating

00:13:30.280 that refrain from Michael Brown's shooting that has been debunked by the Obama DOJ, by the

00:13:38.020 Washington Post, to your point about the ends justify the means, like a lie is justified.

00:13:43.900 Agitation, violence, cruelty is all justified if you are defeating Nazis, which of course 0.97

00:13:51.220 is why the local politicians' rhetoric there is so dangerous, because these people feel

00:13:56.700 absolutely justified in traumatizing elderly women and children because they're doing so 0.84

00:14:02.980 in the name of defeating fascism.

00:14:06.120 Real quick, how do you solve it?

00:14:08.020 Real quick.

00:14:11.340 How do we solve it?

00:14:12.520 What a stupid thing to say.

00:14:15.140 We all are doing our part to show people there's another side of this story.

00:14:20.200 I'm on the battleground of Instagram trying to pull people out of this propaganda that women 0.98

00:14:25.700 are so easily sucked into and remind them God has given you a brain.

00:14:29.760 There's a lot of people that make a lot of money based on you being stupid, and you don't

00:14:34.060 have to fall into that trap.

00:14:35.500 I hope you are a smart person who's able to think and see the other side of this story.

00:14:39.500 So join me in the journey of seeking truth.

00:14:44.260 Allie Best-Stuckey.

00:14:45.380 The name of the book is Toxic Empathy.

00:14:48.380 The author of the op-ed Against That Theory and Against Allie is Hillary Clinton.

00:14:54.120 So that is a good endorsement.

00:14:55.960 And she's also the host of Relatable on Blaze TV.

00:14:59.080 Allie, always good to talk to you.

00:15:00.500 Thank you.

00:15:01.060 Thank you so much.

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00:16:07.900 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:16:12.040 Justin Haskins is the Heartland Institute Vice President, our Republic Senior Fellow.

00:16:19.220 I'm not even a junior fellow.

00:16:21.120 I don't even know how you become a fellow.

00:16:22.660 I can set that up for you if you want.

00:16:25.780 Junior Fellow sounds about right.

00:16:27.560 You have to do any?

00:16:28.220 No.

00:16:28.840 You jerk.

00:16:30.380 You have to do stuff?

00:16:32.100 No.

00:16:32.620 Maybe that's why I'm not a senior or a junior because I don't want to do anything.

00:16:36.180 But anyway, author of The Next Big Crash, Justin, I admire you so much, as you know.

00:16:41.940 Your research, you have a great research team, and your research is impeccable.

00:16:46.320 And the things that you found that we're going to go through in your book may take us a couple

00:16:51.360 of days this week if you're around.

00:16:53.020 But I think it's so important because I'm not sure when a crash is coming, but somebody

00:17:01.800 asked me just the other day, and see if you agree with my answer.

00:17:04.440 They said, Glenn, what's next?

00:17:07.260 And I said, well, I can't tell you exactly what's next because an event is going to happen.

00:17:13.900 I don't know what that event is, but the next big event could be a crash that changes absolutely

00:17:21.700 everything.

00:17:22.460 Would you agree with that?

00:17:23.380 Yeah, 100%.

00:17:24.500 In the first chapter of the book, most of the book is not about what will cause the next

00:17:28.360 big crash or trying to predict when the next crash is going to happen.

00:17:31.780 Most of the book is about the effects of it.

00:17:34.140 That's the really scary thing.

00:17:35.740 But in the first chapter, I talk about these trigger events, all these potential things

00:17:40.320 that are lining up.

00:17:41.400 And there are so many of them that could cause a crash.

00:17:44.840 And I think everyone who's watching this show, we want the economy to be successful.

00:17:49.460 We want the Trump administration to be successful.

00:17:51.420 He's doing a lot of the right things.

00:17:53.660 But still, you could have another pandemic.

00:17:56.780 You could have an AI.

00:17:58.660 You have war. 0.55

00:17:59.320 You could have war. 0.57

00:18:00.280 You could have some sort of AI event that where you could have the Wall Street could

00:18:04.800 shut down.

00:18:05.760 I mean, the Chinese are hacking into infrastructure. 1.00

00:18:09.540 They're testing things out, trying to figure out a way that there's all kinds of crazy things

00:18:14.220 that could happen.

00:18:15.200 The derivatives complex, which we talk about a lot in the book, is super dangerous, super

00:18:20.700 dangerous.

00:18:21.020 The gambling that's going on on Wall Street, really bad.

00:18:24.320 Things are overheated.

00:18:25.920 Those CDOs are what caused the problems in 2008.

00:18:31.420 We all knew it.

00:18:32.880 It was all verified.

00:18:34.420 We're going to clean that up.

00:18:35.520 They doubled down, tripled down on those things. 0.64

00:18:38.560 They made it much worse than it was in 2008.

00:18:41.320 Correct?

00:18:42.200 Yeah, 100%.

00:18:43.500 I looked this up the other day.

00:18:45.420 Derivatives, for those who don't know, a derivative is an investment that's the derived, its value

00:18:52.220 is derived, that's why it's called the derivative, from some other kind of asset.

00:18:56.100 But it's basically just, you can think of it as guessing or gambling.

00:18:59.580 At its worst, it's sort of like gambling.

00:19:01.740 The derivatives complex is so massive right now.

00:19:05.080 The total value of all the derivatives is one quadrillion dollars.

00:19:11.580 Quadrillion dollars.

00:19:12.660 That's the size of the derivatives market.

00:19:15.260 Far more value is in the derivatives market than there is actual value underlying it.

00:19:22.100 So if you have a gigantic crash, everything comes crashing down.

00:19:25.900 They don't have the assets to support one quadrillion dollars worth of stuff.

00:19:31.100 It's incredibly dangerous.

00:19:34.400 A quadrillion dollars, is that a trillion trillions?

00:19:38.160 I don't even know.

00:19:39.920 I truly don't even, I don't think we can conceptualize it.

00:19:42.960 I mean, quadrillion is like, when I was a kid, trillion, we thought was like a made-up

00:19:48.280 number.

00:19:48.920 It wasn't a number, it was like quadrillion.

00:19:51.020 I don't even know what that is exactly.

00:19:54.200 It's unbelievable.

00:19:55.120 That's insanity.

00:19:56.480 Yes.

00:19:56.980 Insanity.

00:19:57.260 So in the book, and this is the big part, the only reason why any of these things,

00:20:02.120 the derivatives complex, any of this other stuff that we're going to talk about exists

00:20:05.980 is because over a long period of time, your property rights were taken away from you, and

00:20:12.680 you had no idea that it occurred.

00:20:14.460 And Wall Street has used this new system that we're going to talk about today to build the

00:20:20.420 derivatives complex, to build all sorts of risky systems within Wall Street that's allowing

00:20:26.720 them to get rich because you no longer have your property rights when it comes to your

00:20:30.860 investments.

00:20:31.300 Okay, so let's take this one step at a time.

00:20:38.100 First, when you put money in a bank, unless you're in a private bank, that money is being

00:20:46.840 loaned out to others.

00:20:48.460 And after 08, the banks got together with Barney Frank and then the Republicans as well and

00:20:56.300 made it so you are the lender of last resort.

00:21:01.920 And what that means is if I'm the lender of last resort at Bob's hamburger shop and I've

00:21:09.060 ponied up a million dollars to help him build this, but others have ponied up as well and

00:21:15.360 I'm the lender of last resort, it means he's got to, if he goes bankrupt, he has to pay

00:21:21.040 everybody else off.

00:21:22.660 He can use the money from, you know, liquidation and everything else.

00:21:26.040 And I'm the last one at the trough.

00:21:28.560 So I get whatever is left.

00:21:30.100 If there is anything left over, when you put your money in a bank in 2008, part of the thing

00:21:37.200 that they did 2008 to correct the system was they made the American depositor, the lender

00:21:45.220 of last resort.

00:21:46.180 So when you're putting your money into a bank to keep it safe, they're loaning it out.

00:21:52.480 That means you're a lender to the bank.

00:21:55.340 You're not a customer of the bank.

00:21:56.980 You're lending them your money.

00:21:59.440 They put it into whatever they want to put it into risky.

00:22:02.780 If it goes away, you don't get your money back.

00:22:05.300 You're the last in line to be paid.

00:22:07.700 So the little guy gets screwed every single time.

00:22:11.440 And I thought that was bad, but that's, that's, that's, that's the tip of the ice.

00:22:16.840 That's what's above the water level that you can see.

00:22:20.400 Yes.

00:22:20.980 It's so much worse than that.

00:22:22.420 So much worse than I ever imagined.

00:22:23.780 And so this story that's contained in the next big crash is about this unbelievable conspiracy

00:22:30.900 that occurred over several decades to take away your property rights when it comes to

00:22:36.700 your investments.

00:22:37.240 So primarily what we're talking about here are Wall Street investments, securities investments.

00:22:41.040 So stocks, bonds, ETFs, when you think of investing on Wall Street, that's what we're

00:22:46.320 talking about.

00:22:47.580 Your 401k, all of it.

00:22:49.500 Yes.

00:22:49.980 In the 1960s and 70s, a powerful special interests working with potentially the CIA, maybe we

00:22:59.260 talk about that in the, in the book, uh, at length, got together and decided we're going

00:23:04.360 to transform the way people own these investments.

00:23:08.680 At the time they were having a paperwork crisis because everything was done on paper in the 1960s

00:23:13.640 and 70s.

00:23:14.260 And prior to that too.

00:23:15.300 So if you bought stock, you would actually get a paper certificate with your name on

00:23:19.720 it.

00:23:19.840 It was your stock.

00:23:21.620 And the problem with this is when you're buying and selling and it's happening increasingly

00:23:25.060 more.

00:23:25.760 Now you've got to do lots of paperwork and it was causing problems for Wall Street.

00:23:29.520 So what they decided was, you know, what if we just made investments?

00:23:34.900 We took all the stock, all the bonds, took everything and we put it all in one institution.

00:23:39.780 And we made that one institution, the owner, the direct registered owner of all of these

00:23:45.440 investments.

00:23:46.120 And then what we do is we give people contracts so that they have an interest in this, but

00:23:51.600 they don't actually own the asset itself.

00:23:54.460 Well, that's exactly what they ended up doing.

00:23:57.320 And in 1970s...

00:23:58.780 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:24:00.380 I just want to make sure I understand.

00:24:01.400 So if I have a, not to single anybody out, but a Schwab account and I have my money, my

00:24:08.540 401k and everything else, and I have it at Charles Schwab and they tell me you own this

00:24:14.160 many shares of this and this many shares of that.

00:24:16.700 I've never received the certificate of ownership of that stock.

00:24:22.340 They have it.

00:24:23.380 You're saying they hold it and, but they're holding it in a big pile of stuff and you're,

00:24:30.060 you get a share of that.

00:24:31.760 You're, you're not the actual owner of any of that stuff.

00:24:35.580 You're the owner of a contract that gives you certain benefits related to those shares.

00:24:40.480 You don't own the shares and Charles Schwab doesn't own the shares either.

00:24:43.780 Only one institution owns the shares.

00:24:46.080 It's called the Depository Trust Company and it's part of the Federal Reserve.

00:24:51.060 Depository Trust Company, DTC, part of the Federal Reserve.

00:24:54.700 So evil.

00:24:55.620 Yes.

00:24:55.820 So evil.

00:24:56.460 They own basically about $80 trillion worth of stock and, and other securities investments

00:25:04.680 are owned by DTC.

00:25:06.840 That's the direct registered owner of all of these investments.

00:25:09.700 So when you go and you buy a stock, you think you're buying stock, you invest in your retirement

00:25:14.240 account.

00:25:14.600 You think that you own those things.

00:25:15.900 You don't actually own them.

00:25:17.180 You have a contractual interest to the underlying asset, but you don't really own it.

00:25:22.440 Now, the big, one of the big reasons, one of the big benefits to this system is if you

00:25:27.580 don't really own it, then they don't need your permission to do all kinds of different

00:25:31.880 things with it because they can now, because it's not yours.

00:25:35.640 So they can lend it out to other people.

00:25:38.060 They can build the whole derivatives complex, the gambling that goes on, margin accounts,

00:25:42.580 all of these things where you're basically borrowing stock.

00:25:46.020 You're borrowing, you're putting money up to borrow more stock.

00:25:48.840 You're, you're, you're gambling.

00:25:50.520 All of that is because of this system.

00:25:52.800 It wouldn't be possible without it.

00:25:54.500 The whole thing is built on this model that you don't really own it.

00:25:58.060 So they built this model and they've made a fortune off of it.

00:26:01.660 Not only because trading volumes have dramatically increased on Wall Street, but also because

00:26:05.520 now they get to do options, tradings, and futures, and all these other things that

00:26:10.100 they weren't really able to do at scale prior to this.

00:26:13.520 So they've made a fortune, but then they got even greedier and they said, you know, there's

00:26:18.260 all sorts of risk involved in this system.

00:26:20.720 So in the 1990s, they changed the laws again at the state level.

00:26:24.200 Most of these laws were changed, by the way, at the state level.

00:26:27.060 1990s, they changed the laws again that gave these big, too big to fail institutions, the

00:26:34.280 ability to essentially keep your investments.

00:26:39.280 If a financial institution uses those investments as collateral in a loan, I know this is getting

00:26:45.400 like a little bit complicated, but let's say, for example, you give your money to an investment

00:26:50.220 management firm, the investment manager goes out and they're not supposed to do this, but

00:26:55.480 let's just say they do.

00:26:56.500 And we have examples of them doing it.

00:26:58.260 They use your investments as collateral to go get a loan at another institution at a bank

00:27:05.500 or something, maybe because they're failing and they're desperate and they need to do

00:27:08.420 it and they're not supposed to be doing it.

00:27:09.840 There's regulations against it, but they do it anyway.

00:27:11.960 OK, so they do that and then they can't pay the loan back because they're crashing.

00:27:17.820 According to the laws that are on the books right now, the big bank gets to keep your investments.

00:27:24.900 The big bank can take your investments as collateral and keep it for themselves, even if the institution

00:27:31.220 wasn't supposed to lend it, put it up as collateral in the first place.

00:27:36.500 So all of then there's emergency powers laws that are on the books.

00:27:40.140 Now, all of this is in the book.

00:27:41.240 The next big crash.

00:27:42.500 You can see all of the evidence for yourself.

00:27:44.980 But this is a extremely dangerous situation that they have built on Wall Street.

00:27:50.600 And we've had people on the record who built this system saying this was done in preparation

00:27:57.840 for, quote, an Armageddon, an Armageddon-like scenario to make sure that the two big-to-fail

00:28:04.080 institutions would be protected and individuals could lose everything as a result of it.

00:28:09.320 It's terrifying.

00:28:11.040 And most people have never heard of any of this.

00:28:13.000 It's so evil.

00:28:14.440 It is just, I mean, I am convinced that the Fed and how it was built, I'm not saying the people

00:28:20.760 of the Fed, although I'm sure there's some very nefarious people in there.

00:28:24.060 I'm just saying the system that was built is an evil system because it is meant to protect

00:28:29.500 the money and the system and not the people whose lives are the ones supporting all of it.

00:28:36.820 The ones who, who are the, I mean, when you put a system over people, which they have

00:28:43.120 done without, without including the people in any of this knowledge, I honestly just,

00:28:49.000 I've, I've heard a lot of crazy things that I thought that can't be true.

00:28:53.280 I've heard a lot of things that I thought were just out and out crazy.

00:28:57.520 And I've heard a lot of things that I just think are evil.

00:28:59.960 This is right there at the top of these, of those things.

00:29:03.860 And, you know, you came to me with this, I don't know, months ago and we looked into

00:29:08.000 her like, oh my gosh, he's right.

00:29:10.020 All of this is accurate.

00:29:11.860 This is not the, I mean, Justin is very, very good.

00:29:14.920 You can read about it in the next big crash, but wait, there's more.

00:29:19.120 You're streaming the best of Glenn Beck.

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00:29:25.080 get podcasts.

00:29:26.680 Let me, let me start with some amazing news.

00:29:28.740 Uh, first the Artemis looks like it's going to be pushed back to, um, uh, March was supposed

00:29:35.400 to launch here soon, but you know, let's, uh, let's take a minute for any of us, any of

00:29:39.900 us who are old enough to remember what happened to the challenger, the challenger blew up because

00:29:44.100 it was sitting on the pad and the temperatures in Florida went below freezing.

00:29:49.040 Well, that's exactly what has happened.

00:29:51.020 These are solid booster rockets, uh, that are strapped to the side of Artemis, the same kind

00:29:56.340 that we're on the challenger, I know we found the O ring problem, et cetera, et cetera, we're

00:30:00.140 supposed to solve that, but I'm hoping that they're going to put that thing back into,

00:30:03.900 uh, in, you know, take them a day to roll that back into the shed, if you will, uh, and

00:30:10.040 test it and make sure we can't afford to lose the Artemis.

00:30:13.020 Um, but the other thing that happened yesterday is the largest company now in the history of

00:30:19.740 the world, the most, uh, valued, uh, company in the entire world was created SpaceX and,

00:30:27.760 uh, XAI merged yesterday that makes them the most, uh, profitable, most expensive company

00:30:37.340 in the entire world.

00:30:38.460 And I have to tell you, when I heard that last night, I thought, gosh, I feel like it's 1910.

00:30:43.440 And somebody said, you should invest in the bell system.

00:30:48.460 Uh, yeah, maybe, maybe, uh, this might be AT&T.

00:30:53.680 It might be the railroads might be Pan Am, you know, when Pan Am was something, this, this

00:30:58.340 is huge.

00:30:58.920 And let me explain right now.

00:31:02.200 Um, SpaceX has announced yesterday that they are going to launch a million satellites into

00:31:09.560 space, a million satellites into space for the cloud and for AI processing, AI processing

00:31:17.040 up in space.

00:31:17.840 You can keep it cool and you don't have to have any of the water problems.

00:31:20.980 You don't have any of the cooling problems, the energy problems, et cetera, et cetera.

00:31:23.700 I mean, it's a perfect place to have processing done is up in space.

00:31:27.240 He's going to launch a million satellites to give you some idea right now.

00:31:33.600 Humanity has roughly 14,000 active satellites operating and orbiting earth.

00:31:42.900 Okay.

00:31:43.720 That's every nation.

00:31:45.180 That's every military.

00:31:46.500 That's every weather system, every GPS signal, every communications platform humanity has ever

00:31:53.440 put into space is 14,000.

00:31:56.620 Okay.

00:31:58.240 So now SpaceX has filed plans of a million satellites over time going up into space.

00:32:06.280 Even if only a fraction of that number is ever launched, this is not an expansion of what

00:32:12.280 exists today.

00:32:13.100 This is a complete redesign of space around earth.

00:32:17.000 This is a replacement of the scale itself.

00:32:20.320 So to understand this, stop thinking in terms of technology and start thinking in terms of history.

00:32:26.420 Okay.

00:32:27.100 When I first heard this, a million satellites, and I know we have 14,000 in space.

00:32:31.500 I thought to myself, wow, uh, that's kind of like somebody saying, yeah, I know we're

00:32:38.340 expanding and I know it's 1820, but everything West of the Missouri river is mine.

00:32:43.800 Okay.

00:32:44.280 I mean, the 1800s power in America was not decided by the speeches.

00:32:49.240 It was decided by who controlled the rivers and then later who controlled the railroads when

00:32:55.300 the railroads crossed the Missouri river, it wasn't just steel that was moving West.

00:32:59.980 It was law.

00:33:00.180 It was commerce.

00:33:01.180 It was time.

00:33:02.180 It was settlement.

00:33:03.180 So the cities lobbied for the railroads, please put the railroad tracks by us cities died when

00:33:12.660 the railroads bypassed them.

00:33:14.900 Okay.

00:33:15.500 No one announced everything West of the river is ours.

00:33:18.940 They didn't have to, they built it first and then everybody else had to adjust around that.

00:33:23.540 And that is exactly what Elon Musk is doing right now, except the frontier is not land.

00:33:29.120 It's the sky.

00:33:30.980 Low earth orbit is not infinite.

00:33:33.680 And I think there's, I want to say 6,000 in low earth orbit.

00:33:37.940 There are only so many usable altitudes out there.

00:33:41.800 Um, and you know, you start launching things up into space.

00:33:47.060 There's only so many collision tolerant corridors.

00:33:49.940 So there's so much junk up around that you, it's, it has to be very carefully coordinated

00:33:56.700 at small numbers.

00:33:58.900 As satellites coexist at massive numbers, they define everything.

00:34:04.520 You place tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of objects into those corridors.

00:34:10.120 You're no longer participating in space.

00:34:14.760 You're designing and structuring it.

00:34:18.000 Think of it this way.

00:34:20.000 This isn't somebody claiming land West of the Rockies.

00:34:22.940 It's closer to one company building every road, every bridge, every highway and say,

00:34:28.900 everybody else can use them, but we built them first.

00:34:32.960 Control doesn't require ownership.

00:34:35.140 It requires scale.

00:34:38.180 And that is what Elon Musk is very good at scale.

00:34:42.480 And this matters because for the first time in history, a private company is positioned to

00:34:47.840 shape the planetary structure or infrastructure, a layer of infrastructure, faster than governments,

00:34:54.660 cheaper than any nation, with replacement cycles measured in months, not decades.

00:35:01.580 I mean, empires used to control land.

00:35:04.240 Remember, I mean, this is exactly what the, this is what the Vanderbilts did with railroads.

00:35:10.700 You know, they controlled the railroads.

00:35:13.000 Navies controlled the seas. 0.59

00:35:14.580 Nations controlled airspace.

00:35:16.940 This is completely different.

00:35:18.320 This is the normalization now of something entirely new.

00:35:21.440 The sky itself becoming managed infrastructure.

00:35:26.180 Okay.

00:35:26.860 And history tells us something really, really important when this kind of stuff happens.

00:35:32.880 Really important.

00:35:36.040 People who arrive first, they don't just win.

00:35:39.520 They set the rules that everybody else spends decades trying to renegotiate.

00:35:46.140 So this isn't a warning.

00:35:47.520 This is just an observation here.

00:35:48.920 Every great power shift in history looks small right up until the time it doesn't.

00:35:54.400 And by the time most people look up, the frontier is already gone.

00:35:58.980 The other thing you have to understand, this is going to change our skies forever.

00:36:04.500 However, you put a million, put half a million, put a hundred thousand more satellites up into lower orbit space.

00:36:16.120 It's going to change the look of the sky.

00:36:18.540 When you go out at night, you're going to see a different sky.

00:36:25.560 This, this is a game changing announcement yesterday.

00:36:28.860 Game changing.

00:36:29.560 I'm not sure I like it.

00:36:30.960 I just want to point out it's massive.

00:36:33.060 Now, let me come closer to earth, closer to what is happening in our world.

00:36:39.520 Yesterday, I'm going to go into this in a second.

00:36:41.460 Yesterday, there was a judge in Texas who made this crazy, crazy ruling on habeas corpus.

00:36:48.220 And we're going to get into that because it ties into the, into the, into judges overreach, but also what's happening with ice.

00:36:55.700 Okay.

00:36:56.940 Well, before I get there, let me tell you something else that's crazy that's going on and it's happening in Utah.

00:37:02.100 And Utah, listen to me carefully.

00:37:05.260 You are in trouble.

00:37:07.960 You are in trouble.

00:37:10.460 I don't care what party you belong to.

00:37:13.520 Every American should understand what Utah did is trouble for the Republic.

00:37:19.860 The Republicans in Utah, you want to talk about being hypocrites.

00:37:35.140 Here it is.

00:37:36.040 When we talk about packing the court, what do we all say?

00:37:40.800 Don't do that.

00:37:42.080 That's the end of the Republic.

00:37:43.840 It's always the end of the Republic.

00:37:45.680 When somebody starts packing courts, the next people that get in, they're like, oh, well, you changed that number.

00:37:51.540 So I can change that number too.

00:37:53.060 We're going to have 12.

00:37:53.800 We're going to have 20.

00:37:54.440 We're going to have 30.

00:37:55.060 We're going to have 55.

00:37:56.320 You see Venezuela.

00:37:57.660 You see Cuba.

00:37:58.460 You see any country that has ever done this.

00:38:01.680 They fall into totalitarianism because they realize they can just change the referees.

00:38:06.580 They'll just add more referees and they'll add the referees. 1.00

00:38:08.860 Utah has had a real problem because you have all these judges that are legislating from the court.

00:38:19.140 That's not the job of a judge.

00:38:21.680 That's not what a judge does. 1.00

00:38:24.440 They accepted, Utah accepted, I think it's the Missouri system or the Missouri reform.

00:38:30.760 I don't know what it is.

00:38:31.900 Something to do with Missouri.

00:38:33.140 And what it means is they're going to get together with all of the legal experts.

00:38:37.020 And the legal experts are going to say to the governor, these are the ones you should pick from.

00:38:41.460 Oh, okay.

00:38:42.980 No, no.

00:38:45.360 Can we stop being a country run by experts?

00:38:49.000 We see exactly what the experts have done in every category.

00:38:54.240 Stop it.

00:38:56.140 So they decided because the court system is overwhelmed.

00:39:00.380 No, not the Supreme Court.

00:39:02.440 The federal courts are, the state courts are, but not the state Supreme.

00:39:07.020 There's a massive backlog in the lower courts, you know, and people have been begging, hey, help us, help us.

00:39:14.500 And they were ignored.

00:39:16.720 So they decided to expand the Supreme Court.

00:39:19.800 Why?

00:39:20.820 That wasn't overrun.

00:39:22.380 It wasn't overwhelmed.

00:39:24.200 This is not about efficiency.

00:39:26.120 This is all about control.

00:39:27.960 And I understand you have bad judges and they've been legislating, but you don't do this, Utah.

00:39:36.420 You should hear history echoing here.

00:39:39.740 Okay.

00:39:40.380 Because this is what happens all the time when a uniparty takes hold.

00:39:45.820 The Republicans, you know, the Republicans have had control of Utah forever.

00:39:51.080 And so they're doing exactly what's happening in Texas.

00:39:53.600 They get soft.

00:39:54.860 They get mushy.

00:39:55.740 They get embarrassed that they actually believe in the Constitution.

00:39:58.700 And when power moves as a single organism, protecting itself, correcting its losses, punishing resistance, this is what they do.

00:40:09.660 They made all these mistakes, all these compromises, and then what happens?

00:40:13.820 After the compromises are there, they see what the result is, and they're like, oh, I shouldn't have done that.

00:40:17.900 Okay, well, let's do something even more dumb.

00:40:20.860 Let's pack the Supreme Court of the state.

00:40:24.960 Republicans, you don't get a pass here because Democrats would do it too.

00:40:29.280 That argument damns the republic.

00:40:31.700 It doesn't save it.

00:40:32.580 It damns it.

00:40:34.480 A legislature that expands a court after losing cases is not defending a republic.

00:40:40.080 It's announcing constitutional limits only apply, you know, unless they're inconvenient.

00:40:44.820 What kind of hypocrites are running the GOP?

00:40:50.780 And here's the deeper problem that nobody wants to say out loud.

00:40:54.560 For decades, our universities have been captured by ideologues who openly despise the Constitution.

00:41:01.520 I have a podcast coming with, oh gosh, what's his name?

00:41:08.440 Constitutional scholar.

00:41:09.820 Yeah, Jonathan Turley.

00:41:11.220 It's coming out this week.

00:41:12.600 And he was talking, he kept ringing the bell.

00:41:14.720 You don't understand what's happening in the universities, Glenn.

00:41:16.940 It's Marxism.

00:41:17.820 And they're all against the Constitution.

00:41:20.260 They're teaching Marxism, not as theory, but as morality.

00:41:23.680 And they're training our lawyers and our judges and our journalists and the bureaucrats to see the problem as something to be managed,

00:41:32.260 not framework to be defended because the framework is just not good anymore.

00:41:36.360 The media, overwhelmingly drawn from the same institutions, doesn't, you know, doesn't check this drift.

00:41:45.280 It sanctifies it.

00:41:47.740 And in a state that was raised on the Constitution, you know better than this.

00:41:53.980 Have you just grown timid?

00:42:00.960 Apologizing before you even stand up, square your shoulders, and say, this is what the Constitution says.

00:42:06.780 These are our founding principles.

00:42:09.280 Why are you shrinking from conflict?

00:42:11.960 As if defending principles is somehow impolite.

00:42:15.120 It is not impolite.

00:42:16.520 It is required of you to stand.

00:42:19.820 A Republican cannot survive this kind of shyness.

00:42:24.860 I know you're polite.

00:42:26.200 I know you don't want to.

00:42:27.500 I know you want to get along with everybody.

00:42:29.940 You must stand or you will lose everything.

00:42:33.620 You're going to become California.

00:42:35.320 And then you think that you think that state's going to last?

00:42:38.420 Are you kidding me?

00:42:40.900 One side is ruthless and the other side is reserved.

00:42:44.820 And the ruthless always win.

00:42:47.140 I know that's why we pack the court.

00:42:49.480 No!

00:42:50.380 You don't violate your own principles or you become everything that you despise.

00:42:56.280 Utah once prided itself on being different, unusual, peculiar, grounded, constitutionally serious.

00:43:04.220 You're not.

00:43:05.520 Your road you're on, it's not leading you to any of that.

00:43:10.020 But when courts become political tools, when legislatures punish judges for rulings instead of fixing the law, when every law is answered with structural manipulation, you don't get Utah, you get California.

00:43:27.000 Not all at once, not overnight, but inevitably, you get it.

00:43:33.740 And you're almost there.

00:43:35.580 And once you cross this line, which you just crossed, there's no neutral ground left.

00:43:40.920 Every future majority is going to feel justified doing exactly the same thing, only faster and only harsher.

00:43:46.920 You think they're going to stop at seven?

00:43:49.200 You had five.

00:43:50.320 You increased it to seven because it's overwhelmed.

00:43:52.860 That was a lie.

00:43:54.320 That's a lie.

00:43:55.180 Numbers are numbers.

00:43:56.040 Math is math.

00:43:57.260 Sorry, GOP.

00:43:59.400 Math is universal.

00:44:02.080 And some of us know the difference between an overwhelmed system and one that's not.

00:44:10.140 Math is just a number.

00:44:13.460 This is how separation of powers become a memory instead of a guardrail.

00:44:17.780 I'm going to show you what just happened in Texas, Utah and Texas.

00:44:21.560 This isn't just a bad bill.

00:44:24.540 This is a warning flare to the rest of the country.

00:44:29.060 Republics that ignore warning flares, you don't get a second chance on this one.

00:44:34.020 When you start screwing around with the balance of a state or national Supreme Court, your republic is destined for disaster.

00:44:45.420 Okay?

00:44:46.420 That's just the truth.

00:44:47.800 I don't like saying it.

00:44:49.440 I don't want to be the one saying it.

00:44:51.680 But if you're doing it, somebody's got to point it out and saying, what are you doing?

00:44:57.580 Do you want that to happen at the federal level?

00:45:00.620 You just set a precedence.

00:45:04.000 It's not going to stop there.

00:45:05.920 Oh, yeah, but we're always going to control.

00:45:08.000 Oh, are you?

00:45:08.780 Are you?

00:45:09.220 Have you seen the numbers moving into your state?

00:45:12.920 Have you seen what's happened to Fort Worth just this weekend?

00:45:19.480 That's not conservative anymore.

00:45:21.320 Fort Worth, it's known as Cowtown.

00:45:25.860 It's not Dallas.

00:45:27.340 That was the conservative part.

00:45:30.360 Nope, not anymore.

00:45:32.180 Not anymore.

00:45:32.940 Because Republicans were just like, we're Texas.

00:45:36.060 We'll always be Texas.

00:45:37.740 Have you seen the numbers of the people moving in from California?

00:45:41.840 Florida, I warn you.

00:45:43.000 Have you seen the numbers moving in from New York?

00:45:46.100 These people are not the ones that moved because they had a point.

00:45:49.540 They now moved because it's just too expensive.

00:45:52.380 It's just too crazy up there with taxes.

00:45:54.960 They don't know.

00:45:56.340 They were the ones who built all of that system.

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The Glenn Beck Program - February 03, 2026

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