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On today's show, we talk to John Solomon about the latest on the FBI and the Russiagate scandal, and the new Christian music artist Allison Ide. We also talk to Matthew Continetti from the Free Press, and we get an update on the deal between the White House and Vladimir Putin.
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talked to john solomon tried to get a update on the latest that has come out on the fbi and the
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russiagate scandal he says something big is breaking very soon i mean it's just it's relentless
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what's coming out we also talked to matthew continetti he is from the free press uh and we
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were talking about donald trump up in alaska and uh negotiating with donald trump don't expect much
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from from this negotiation period but why is donald trump doing it how did he pull this off
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and is he caving to vladimir putin or is this all part of a really master negotiation you'll find
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out yourself uh coming up also allison ide she is a new christian artist who is i mean she is
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really spot on with the sound she is not your typical christian artist and she talks about how
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life is really messy and you know you struggle all the time and that's what her songs are about and
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standing with us now let's get to work you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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welcome to the glenn beck program we're glad that you're here uh thank you so much for uh tuning in
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um i want to i want to play uh something from 2017 a quick flashback uh from a senate hearing
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with fbi director james comey listen director comey have you ever been an anonymous source
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in news reports about matters relating to the trump investigation or the clinton investigation never
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uh question two on relatively uh related have you ever authorized someone else at the fbi to be an
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anonymous source in news reports about the trump investigation or the clinton investigation no
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has any classified information relating to president trump or his association associates
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been declassified or and shared with the media not to my knowledge is there an investigation
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of any leaks of classified information relating to mr trump or his associates
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i don't want to i don't want to answer that question senator for reasons i think you know
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uh there have been a variety of uh leaks well leaks are always a problem but especially in the last
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three to six months and where there is a leak of classified information the fbi if it's our information
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makes a referral to the department of justice or if it's another agency's information they do the
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same and then doj authorizes the opening of an investigation i don't want to confirm in an open
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setting whether there are any investigations open wow listen to that i mean this guy is in deep trouble
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uh we have uh john solomon with us from just the news john good to be with yeah that i haven't heard
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that uh my staff put that together and i remember it well uh-huh that is not good that's everything
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that he said we now know verified is a lie yeah listen i think it's going to get worse i think there
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were in the documents i put out last week some information that was redacted by the justice department
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from the fbi documents i think the redactions on that information could be lifted by the end of next
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week and i think we will see even more evidence of comey's media and leaking strategy and it may
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come from some of the most surprising sources so we already have his right hand pr man uh mr richmond
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who was a um a lawyer at columbia university very clearly saying that he he was asked by comey to
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burnish comey's image and to uh work with the media and he clearly had a conversation with the
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reporter about classified information and he gave one i think one of the greatest non-denial denials
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we're ever going to remember in washington history right up there with bill clinton's
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monica lewinski denial depending on what the meaning of the word is is we all remember that
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famous dodge um when richmond was asked that he leaked the information that the reporter published
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right after he talked to him and right after comey had given richmond the intelligence he said i'm
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pretty sure i didn't confirm it and i'm sure comma with a discount comma i didn't uh give him the
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information i'm sure with a discount i guess what does that mean with a disc what does that mean
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yeah the fbi clearly thought it meant that uh you're gonna have to give me a little wiggle room
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on my answer here so and that's not what you that's what it means when you you know i'll buy that
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sure i'll buy that for a discount yeah you gotta take a little bit off of it so i i that's how the fbi
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i took it at the end of the day uh there was a justice department both under um president obama
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and president trump one that wasn't willing to pursue uh the evidence that sits in these leak
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documents and i think uh most of those leaks are going to be unpunishable at this point hey john um
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jason butchell here i'm glenn's chief researcher i'm huge fan of yours i was reading through that
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document i think it was like 266 pages and it was talking about leaks from adam schiff it was talking
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about leaks through you know daniel richmond that columbia university professor all these different
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leaks and the fbi would end those different segments within that document with we decided
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not to go forward we decided to close the investigation how how in the world were they
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just closing all these investigations and not finding information that would lead to an indictment
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does it make sense to you it makes no sense to me uh well it makes sense in this respect every
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time they went to the justice department the u.s attorney that had prosecutive authority that
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prosecutors wouldn't prosecute right i mean that is i i started my career as a sports writer and i
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remember uh one of the great defenses of all time the steel curtain of the pittsburgh steelers there was
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a steel curtain around james comey and anyone who went after trump any democrat that had a criminal
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problem whether it was hunter biden hillary clinton joe biden his classified documents every time the fbi
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went to get the sort of normal prosecutive help they get all day long from the u.s attorneys the
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answer was no we're not going to help you see you later decline and uh you see now in these documents
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a very powerful dual system of justice is this does this have anything to do with the fact that we cannot
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get new u.s attorneys confirmed uh i think they the i don't think this is a most of the crimes here are
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beyond the statute uh you know there are there's some there's one statute that allows a 10-year
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willful prosecution and classified information the adam schiff uh many of the legal experts i talked
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about based on the whistleblower if that whistleblower's account could be verified uh adam
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schiff might still face a knowing and willful violation but most of these are done so the democrats
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aren't uh putting their foot out to trip up these u.s attorneys because they think these guys are going to
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get prosecuted they're putting their foot out because they don't want donald trump to succeed
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at anything they would love to see chaos on the streets and be able to blame them for that so
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what better way to do that than not allow them to have judges and prosecutors who could do the job
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that the american people need done and so i think their their their obstruction is much larger than just
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protecting themselves on the 2016 2017 racket but does this testimony while it's out of statute of
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limitations doesn't this play right into the grand conspiracy that is where uh there's a strong
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possibility that's a complicated case you never know how a grand jury will digest it um but uh there
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is a strong uh they're already underway i confirmed this this week there are grand juries currently
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collecting uh evidence in multiple jurisdictions in pennsylvania and virginia and in new york so the work
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of gathering the evidence and securing it which sometimes is missing in the adam schiff file one
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of the most extraordinary things the fbi clearly had grave concerns they interviewed the whistleblower
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four times they knew this was serious stuff but when they uh when they went to go say hey adam schiff
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we got to get your staffers to talk to us they said we're not going to talk to you we were protected by
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the debate and speech clause and the justice department wasn't willing under donald trump to pierce that
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claim which i think is pretty tenuous from the legal experts i've talked to so you just see every
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time the fbi follows the lead they get to a certain point and then it's the justice department that
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really is the department of injustice it is simply not allowing fbi agents to complete investigations that
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would embarrass the deep state or the democratic uh elites uh or their friends in the government who
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tarried their water in 16 and 17 i just talked to uh the author who exposed raven 23 and got those
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guys um out of prison um and you know i said what happened to all of the prosecutors and the fbi and the
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people in the state department she said oh they're all still there um nobody's learning any any lesson
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at all um is there uh is the doj doing enough uh there is a transition underway in the justice
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department and i think the jury is out on a pam body senior obviously bumpy start with epstein i think
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in the grand conspiracy case there is a sign that they're doing it just the way they used to do it in
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the 1980s when the justice department was at its heyday it took down um you know the mob and it took
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down the early drug cartels when you have a grand conspiracy case you start with an fbi predicate
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that happened then you create a strike force something we haven't used in a long time but
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strike forces are very effective prosecutive tools she did that and then she authorized the use of
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grand jury so they're following the playbook the non-political playbook the way the justice department
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is supposed to act uh whether she succeeds or not is a long way out on the investigation on
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cleaning our house they've cleaned out a lot they're very short of prosecutors right now
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there are career positions that are open and almost all the u.s attorneys are open
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so until those positions fill in a little bit there is a limitation to what could be succeeded but
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you see in the last couple days in the district of columbia how quickly the justice department and
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the fbi could clean up some pretty bad guys off the street real quickly uh they're doing a lot of
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things they're being asked to do a lot more than what they have resources for now and i think uh over
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the next six months we'll know whether they get resourced enough and whether they have
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the toughness the tenacity to fight this fight they're going to go up against the the best lawyers
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the democrats can throw at this the fifteen hundred dollar an hour lawyers and the question is can the
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government defeat them in the in the courts and that is uh a verdict yet to be written
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fbi cleaned up enough they're moving pretty quickly yeah there is i will tell you there is a
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significant tenured uh tenor in the voices of the agents i've known for a long time when i talked to
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they feel like they're allowed to go investigate crimes and that there's no politics anymore when
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they predicate a case it goes and i think that cash patel has very quickly changed the mindset they're
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still craning out people sometimes you know one of the interesting things people ask me about this
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why those two guys why was cash patel holding on to the two guys sometimes the enemy of my enemy is
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my best friend which is you want to know for a while from people you got on the meat hook where are the
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bodies buried where where are what what was going on here your job depends on you telling me the truth
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and so some of the people that i think cash patel uh kept around for a while was to really
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interrogate them and find out how bad was it and it was that those efforts that found the secret
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room where some of the evidence was the burn bags that they found so that was a productive time and
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then when i think when when that exercise was over those uh those agents leave as well but there
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are some really significant uh signs in talking to people that the fbi is a different organization
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today than it was just a few short years ago and uh last question on this um what's coming next
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and when should we expect it i think round two of what we're going to learn about comey is going to be
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pretty eye-opening i think we're going to get a strong sense that maybe there was better evidence
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and more explosive witnesses against them uh it's just an inkling i have based on the way the documents
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are redacted so i'm going to keep working that to get those redactions lifted i think i think the
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justice department's going to do the right thing for the public and that's going to be important
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we'll be able to get the complete picture of james comey and then i think there are a couple of other
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big shoes to fall i think another place that has to be cleaned out is the intelligence that has been
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a slower process the fbi has cleaned out much quicker than the cia and the odni but i would be
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watching for tulsi gabbard to unleash in the next couple of weeks the most sweeping cutback of the
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u.s intelligence committee have ever seen you're going to shrink it down so that they don't have
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time to do politics they only have time to do national security threats that's going to be a
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major major moment in the history of our intelligence uh weaponization concerns hey john jason again glenn's
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chief researcher i haven't felt this overwhelmed with the barrage of information we're getting since
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i think i was looking at your ukraine leaks you you gave me about probably probably two weeks straight
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24 hours a day straight of just going through all the stuff you're foying and everything have you
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ever been so overwhelmed with all these releases like since then it's just been insane yeah listen
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the velocity of action in washington is unprecedented i've never seen in the 35 years i've been in this
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town this much speed this much things going on there are major news stories every four to six hours
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and there are major releases of documents what it tells you is that when the president said he believes
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in transparency and is going to impose it which by the way he said all through the first campaign
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first presidency but he didn't have people around him who had the courage and tenacity
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to overcome the resistance and do it he's got that team now tulsi cabaret cash patel
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pam bondy to her credit is she's not afraid to release anything that will give the public a sense of how bad it
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is uh ratcliffe has been a little bit more hesitant i know he resisted on some things
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uh but they have a group now that is really committed to getting the story out and the
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podcast this is the best of the glenbeck program all right matthew welcome to the program how are
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you i'm well glenn thank you for having me uh you bet so i mean uh what great article really
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i think going contrary to what everybody in the mainstream media is saying they're saying oh he's
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bringing him over to alaska and that's such a win for uh putin i don't think it's a win at
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all for putin and it has taken him more than one day um because he had to change the dynamics
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of american policy and i think the policies of the world um and you point that out in your article you
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want to go a little deeper into that oh sure absolutely no i think that trump is going to this
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summit today in anchorage with a lot of leverage over vladimir putin and you're right the mainstream media
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is wants already to characterize this as a win for putin because there's a meeting taking place at
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all but i think this fundamentally misunderstands president trump uh president trump is wants to
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meet anybody he doesn't care he's he's happy to talk to anybody the question is always what will come
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out and if you remember he met with kim jong-un uh twice and in hanoi when kim jong-un just wouldn't
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give up uh concessions on his nuclear program trump walked away so that could easily happen
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this time but i think the overall dynamic changed in just the past few months the first step was
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getting ukraine on board a proposal for a 30-day ceasefire in on the ground and in the air and as we
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know you know zelensky the president of ukraine was reluctant even to sign on to that uh before that oval
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office dust up uh earlier this year but once he got on board and that meant that trump could then go
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and say to europe let's get additional leverage by agreeing to increasing our defense budgets
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and then trump agreed to this deal where nato will purchase weapons from the united states we're not
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spending any money we're we're getting the money from europe for these weapons and then europe would
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hand the weapons to ukraine that definitely got putin's attention as did our successful strike
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against iran's nuclear program uh in in june remember iran is a russian ally iran has been supplying
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a lot of those drones that are raining down on ukrainian cities and we basically took iran out i mean
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but israel helped quite a bit of course in the 12-day war but so we've slowly ratcheted up the
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pressure on putin thanks to president trump's policies the most recent one was this 50 tariff
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on india now we might say well what does that have to do with ukraine and russia well
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india is a huge purchaser of russian energy and so when trump says look we're going to punish third
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parties that are financing the russian war effort well that's when putin said look i'd like to talk
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to you directly wow you know i've been trying to figure out the um india angle because india is a
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huge trade partner we really want them on our side um that makes a lot of sense so if they stop uh
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uh purchasing the russian oil then that trade barrier comes down absolutely i mean this is how
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president trump uses tariffs sure he he likes them for a variety of reasons um they raise revenue for
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the government they want to incentivize foreign investment to build factories in the united states
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but he likes them in particular because their way that he can use america's economic might to get
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results uh in the foreign policy sphere and in this case you're exactly right the tariff is going on
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india because of the purchases of russian oil if they said we're going to reduce those purchases
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then the tariff would come off let's not forget too the energy sector is hurting in russia it's really
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russia's main source of economic growth and government revenue and oil has declined some 19
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year over year uh since trump has taken office that's partly because of trump's energy policy
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the drill baby drill policy that's freed up supply and of course more supply means lower price and that
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hurts vladimir putin as well they have like i think it's when it goes what is it below eighty
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dollars a barrel they can't they have to start dipping into reserves they can't they can't afford
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it so yeah and i think when it crosses 60 goes under 60 then they really start to hurt right
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hey matthew uh jason butchell here glenn's chief researcher um there's been a lot of uh i guess word
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from the europeans uh ukrainians even the russians uh talking about territorial concessions and like
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that's everybody's red line uh do you think with some of the uh setup discussions with whitkoff with
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putin earlier do you think that there's any uh room for you know for leeway here uh do you think that
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uh possibly trump might have an upper hand with that as well or will we see anything when that's always
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the huge red line between the two right well i think the administration and may have gotten a
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little bit ahead of itself right after whitkoff's meeting when you heard the president mention these
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land swaps very quickly president zelensky said well whoa i'm not ready for that and then the europeans
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also said well we need to be part of the table as well since then in the days leading up to today's
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summit trump has been very careful to lower expectations he's said that this is a feeling
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out meeting um caroline levitt called it a listening session trump has said look if putin's not ready for
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a ceasefire then i'm going to leave and he's also said this is just the first meeting he's been very
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clear in the past several days that any settlement a settlement that would probably include some type of
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uh territorial lines being drawn would only happen in a meeting between russia the united states and
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ukraine and then as president trump said the other day maybe he'd invite some europeans to the meeting
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as well so i think that uh we we heard that land swap talk early on but in the days since i think the
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president has had a much more realistic view of what might be attainable uh in this first meeting with
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vladimir putin remember he hasn't met putin in person since 2018 so i think he's he wants to get
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a direct sense of putin's body language and and psychology that's important for the president you
00:26:20.600
know because he i i kind of studied the some of the deals that he has done in the last you know uh 15
00:26:27.880
years on land in his as you know trump uh you know as a company and there's a story about when he was
00:26:35.480
trying to sell the new york plaza and he met with the japanese people and it was all arranged all they
00:26:41.400
had to do is just close the deal with him and he got into the room and he spent maybe three or four
00:26:48.600
minutes talking and listening to them within five minutes he had changed the deal and said you know
00:26:54.920
what i'm building something over on the east river uh or the west side highway that i think you're really
00:27:00.760
going to like and he started and everybody on his team when they broke they said what are you doing
00:27:05.240
he's like they're not interested in the in the uh the plaza he's like i can tell right away we're not
00:27:11.400
going to be able to close that deal i switched to this deal so him face to face there's something
00:27:17.320
about him when he's negotiating face to face he feels the room clearly that even his closest advisors
00:27:25.880
can't translate and can't give him do you agree with that oh i i agree completely i mean he he makes
00:27:33.000
very gut decisions uh based on people's appearances based on people's um body language are they fidgeting
00:27:41.560
what sort of health are they in and these are things that are hard uh to assess over the phone and
00:27:48.280
even hard to assess when you have an intelligence briefer there trump of course always wants to see for
00:27:53.480
himself and so that's why i really do think this meeting will be exploratory remember too you know
00:27:58.840
trump has had this string of diplomatic success uh during his second term just last week he presided
00:28:05.880
over the deal between um armenia and azerbaijan and the white house that was very important as well
00:28:11.720
because that part of the world the caucuses has always been considered part of the russian sphere of
00:28:17.640
influence and here we have two nations from that part of the world not going to moscow but going to
00:28:24.440
the white house and shaking hands with president trump uh to arrange a deal and that put in there too
00:28:32.440
is saying okay i'm losing my influence not just in europe where of course nato has expanded rather than
00:28:41.320
contracted since the ukraine invasion but even in my own backyard we have these nations armenia
00:28:47.480
azerbaijan looking to trump and then of course we have you know the recent flare-up between thailand
00:28:52.360
and cambodia that trump was able to stop from escalating out of control earlier in the year indian pakistan
00:28:59.320
the same thing these sort of agreements that trump has been able to marshal preside over use our economic
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leverage to obtain i think is one reason he wants to have this meeting with putin because he he's
00:29:13.880
beginning to understand his method of bringing the two sides to the table and forging an agreement
00:29:21.880
we're talking to matthew continetti uh he's with um aei he's a senior fellow and also a columnist for the
00:29:28.280
free press um matthew um i don't think anybody today really gives him the credit that he deserves
00:29:39.400
as a master negotiator um you know he's he was known as that you know in business but what he's done
00:29:47.400
in the last seven months to the world and changing the dynamics of the world and bring all these people
00:29:53.320
together you know he's never going to get a nobel peace prize uh you know everybody's like where's
00:29:58.280
somebody's going to nominate well yeah and yeah let's let's watch that happen do you think um at
00:30:04.680
some point uh assuming all these things continue to hold and he continues this trend i mean he could be
00:30:12.440
one of the greatest peacemakers in american history i think so i think he's taking a real uh lesson from
00:30:21.880
theodore roosevelt you know who who's foreign who won the nobel prize a hundred years after he died
00:30:29.480
yeah exactly right and you know teddy roosevelt's foreign policy was gunboat diplomacy right no no
00:30:37.960
regime change and nation building gunboat diplomacy you have a strong military you might have to do a
00:30:43.800
raid every now and then like we just did and against the iranian nuclear uh infrastructure but also
00:30:49.480
mediation theodore roosevelt wanted the united states to mediate between different powers and
00:30:55.400
get them to the table and i see that working in trump's foreign policy as well you know and let's
00:31:01.640
not forget even in his first term uh he had the abraham accords between israel and several arab nations
00:31:08.040
and so you're right glenn he he is a peacemaker and i think even though he won't get any credit
00:31:15.000
from the liberal media now the test of time will i think um ensure his legacy because you know going
00:31:24.520
back to the first term with the abraham accords the biden administration which followed him never really
00:31:31.240
gave trump any credit but they also didn't do anything to disturb the abraham accords or and in
00:31:38.200
the fact wanted to try to expand them just as trump wants to do right now so i think what he's doing is
00:31:43.000
building a foundation that will last and i also hope he's he's teaching lessons that future presidents
00:31:52.040
can take to heart we don't america can use our economic power in a way to obtain peace agreements to
00:32:00.360
make sure that our position is maximized in different negotiations we don't always have to resort
00:32:06.680
uh to military force even as we keep it as an option in a case like the iranian nuclear threat
00:32:16.600
matthew thank you for the insight appreciate it wait before you go one more thing expecting anything to
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come out of this i'm i'm i have pretty low expectations glenn i think there's a chance we
00:32:29.800
may get some sort of ceasefire but um i'm i wouldn't bet the ranch on it yeah yeah all right
00:32:35.480
thank you very much matthew we'll talk again this is the best of the glenn beck program
00:32:43.640
allison i welcome allison how are you good how are you doing i'm i'm great i'm great thank you for
00:32:52.040
coming on the show um i want to play if i may i want to play just a little bit of idk uh for the
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audience for anybody who hasn't heard this listen to not only the voice uh and the production value
00:33:06.600
but listen to the words and what she's saying listen i don't know what if no one loves you
00:33:13.560
i don't know what if they hate you i don't know or what if you die alone well i do know the one who
00:33:20.440
knows it all i don't know what if you're not enough i don't know what if you can't please anyone
00:33:28.120
i will trust the one who knows it all what if your fears come true i don't know what if you're just not
00:33:34.440
talented i don't know what if you're actually bad at you i don't know but at least your songs
00:33:39.080
that they sound like stop i can't play any more of that because i'm only legally allowed to play 30
00:33:44.520
seconds of it but then it gets into the it is a great song it is a great song uh uh called idk
00:33:53.000
by allison ide uh allison how old are you i'm 25 you're 25 you're wildly talented how long have you
00:34:01.800
been doing this and and writing in particular great question i grew up in a music family so my
00:34:08.680
dad was actually a worship artist singer songwriter so i grew up touring with him in middle school high
00:34:13.160
school with like writing songs since i was a kid just because i loved to it was just fun um and it
00:34:18.200
was my dream to do this someday but i didn't release my first single until 2023 which did happen to go
00:34:24.040
viral and everything has snowballed after that so and the first one was who i am
00:34:30.280
love who i am yeah love who i am okay um uh and this one you just released and it went
00:34:38.760
mega viral in hours didn't it you know literally within like a couple days that thing had like
00:34:47.320
a bunch of millions of views on social media yeah and then it definitely when i really snump
00:34:52.680
like streaming platforms it was my highest streamed song so i've had a couple moments like this but idk is
00:34:59.240
definitely the biggest i've experienced which is like really cool very grateful yeah it's great i
00:35:05.720
by the way i would love to invite you i i'm i'm doing a series of uh interviews with musical artists
00:35:11.480
and things and um i would love to invite you up to the ranch if you would be willing to perform up at
00:35:17.000
the ranch and it's just it's just kind of a performance and then conversation kind of thing but
00:35:20.600
we could talk about that off air if you're interested at all um but um uh so um the lyrics
00:35:30.280
really on all of your songs uh are speaking i think they speak to me and it shouldn't i mean
00:35:37.640
i know who i am anyway um but i thought of my daughter immediately um because i mean girls girls are
00:35:47.080
wicked they really are mean to one another and you know when she was going through high school my
00:35:53.160
gosh it was it was constant you know uh crisis of identity and who do i listen to and everything else
00:36:02.120
and you seem to have that theme did you go through that i struggled a lot with my mental health i'd say
00:36:10.680
since i was like 10 years old so a lot of um my where these songs come from is just really
00:36:18.120
me being mentally a disaster and having no idea how to heal and get better um so wait a minute can
00:36:24.600
i ask you what do you mean what do you mean you struggled with mental health if you don't mind me
00:36:29.000
you can tell me stop anytime i won't push you but i have no you're so good i have struggled with an
00:36:35.000
anxiety disorder called obsessive compulsive disorder um and then struggled a lot with
00:36:40.600
different trauma and um episodes of depression and that was in and out throughout like middle
00:36:48.840
school and high school and college college it was at its worst which was ironic because i was like
00:36:53.400
playing college basketball i loved like um performing on stage but behind the scenes i was just
00:37:00.280
really debilitated um i grew up in a christian family though so i was like oh i like i should
00:37:07.080
be able to trust god i should have faith in him i should be confident like if god loves me how come
00:37:12.920
i don't know how to love me um and it was just this like tension at all times if i'm a christian i love
00:37:18.440
god why is it so hard and i feel like he's not here and in college was when it was i was struggling
00:37:24.280
the most but there was one night like in my car at 2 a.m um and i always wrote songs to like get
00:37:30.440
through all of this but i remember really experiencing jesus in my mess and i learned
00:37:36.200
like his heart does not repel our mess he actually is a magnet to those who are broken and so the
00:37:42.600
bigger the mess the closer jesus is um that inspired me to be like i'm not going to write songs and tie
00:37:48.360
him up in a bow like i'm just going to say it as it is unfiltered and um the lord has for some
00:37:55.080
reason taken these songs to a lot of places to help people so i just think he uses what's really
00:38:00.680
bad and changes it for good and that's a blessing i tell you i can understand i can understand how i
00:38:07.800
need to be as a father by looking at him as my literal dad and and i i can look at my daughter
00:38:17.960
and you know watch her struggle she struggled through a lot of the same stuff that you struggled
00:38:23.640
through struggled with and depression you know in and out of hospitals and uh and it was really
00:38:30.760
difficult and uh and she found um you know god uh to to be the answer as well and i loved i love the
00:38:40.280
lyrics in love who i am god i need to see me through your eyes i've been so dependent on how i think
00:38:47.240
they think of me truth pushed aside by the opinions that uh opinions i've been harboring i want to love
00:38:53.240
who i am not through somebody's lens but through the author holding the pen
00:38:57.480
um it's just great it's just they still speak to me yeah that's the lord is kind for that thank you
00:39:07.160
though you're very kind so where do you go from here where are you do you do tours i'm sorry i just
00:39:14.520
i'm i heard the music and i loved it and i asked my staff can you get a hold of her so i i'm i'm i don't
00:39:21.800
know that much about you but i want to i want to learn where where are you going now great question
00:39:28.120
we just finished summer tour so um we were all over the us my band and i for that and the the last
00:39:36.120
leg of tour we had a couple headline shows in new york and florida and it was the first time playing idk
00:39:42.440
live and it was crazy how the fans like screamed that song i so that's kind of what we just finished
00:39:51.480
up and it was really cool um we are currently working on tour plans for end of fall and then
00:39:56.760
next spring um but in the meantime i'm just releasing i have three more singles coming out
00:40:02.520
this year and very very excited about them what are they can you say yeah so the next one's called
00:40:10.120
digital jesus and what is that about i mean besides jesus basically digital jesus is basically a song
00:40:20.840
about being going through grief or any mental struggle and like numbing it out with the phone
00:40:28.280
and with the noise and just being like god i'm done and like wanting to throw the phone away and run
00:40:33.000
and be with the lord and feel again and the bridge of the song really touches on how
00:40:38.040
like the discomfort where there's discomfort where you feel a mess that's where god's presence is
00:40:44.120
dwelling and so it's it's not fun but to feel and to experience jesus is worth it and so i went through
00:40:53.080
a difficult year i lost my dad to cancer a year ago and it was a really traumatic experience and going
00:41:00.200
through that type of grief was uh very foreign to me i was i've never experienced something like that and
00:41:06.120
so who is god amidst grief and the mess has just been the theme of these songs so
00:41:15.640
it is fabulous um uh i don't know if you've ever heard of eminence and she is really good um she's
00:41:24.600
i love eminence yeah she's she's cracked she's crazy i know i just i just talked to her on the phone for
00:41:30.360
we're getting ready for her to come up at the ranch and i just talked to her on the phone a couple of
00:41:33.640
days ago she is hysterical she is really uh very very kind uh really powerful she knows who she is
00:41:43.960
but she struggled through a lot of i don't know if you follow her but she's she's she talks about
00:41:48.920
body image and everything else that i know girls are dealing with and it's it's in and it's just a
00:41:54.040
really powerful way but um anyway she she i've heard her say that you know i don't necessarily want
00:42:02.040
my music to be called christian music or you know pop music or jazz or whatever she's like it's just
00:42:08.360
good music and um do you kind of feel that way are you are are you are you kind of pushed into the
00:42:17.640
christian music even though i mean your lyrics are obviously christian but it doesn't sound like i could
00:42:23.800
listen to your music and it's like like listening to billy eilish or anybody else
00:42:29.080
mm-hmm totally i i totally understand eminence with that too i think what christian music is known as
00:42:38.440
like ccm feels like such a strict bubble and i think a lot of us younger artists are ready to break free from
00:42:45.800
that box um i know for me there was a time and when i was traveling to nashville i'm from minneapolis
00:42:53.080
minnesota but when i traveled to nashville and was building a team a lot of people were like trying to
00:42:59.400
help me write a song that's geared towards radio or fit the theme of like the christian sound and i was
00:43:05.560
like that's not me so i just kind of took it independent and built this from scratch a little bit and
00:43:11.640
i have noticed that the industry has never been shifting and changing more than ever before
00:43:18.840
and i think people are ready for just like emma said good music for me i i think i i am fine knowing
00:43:27.560
being known as like a christian artist but i think more so what i my mission is is to rebel against the
00:43:36.200
um how do i explain this the expectation to have everything together yeah it's a
00:43:42.280
i would love to show what it looks like to be an absolute disaster and still love jesus to
00:43:47.160
be doing the things that are like seem unchristian but are actually just revealing what mess looks
00:43:52.200
like and my song showing just modeling what it looks like to be authentic with the lord so whether
00:43:59.240
or not i'm pegged as a christian artist as long as that's what people are experiencing from
00:44:02.760
my songs than i've done my job and i trust the lord with the rest i will tell you um just stay
00:44:07.880
true to him and and the whole world is going to change um yeah i mean it already is changing i i think
00:44:14.360
people uh have dealt with labels for so long and you know when i first heard eva uh
00:44:22.680
i i thought i i could i could peg her with three i'd listen to a song and i'm like oh that's who she is
00:44:28.600
and then i listen to the next song oh that's who she is and then and then i heard i don't remember
00:44:32.760
what it is uh but one of her songs and she sounds exactly like ella fitzgerald and i and and that's
00:44:37.960
when i knew there's something you entirely unique she's her own little box i feel the same way about
00:44:44.440
you you're your own little box and and labels don't mean anything and i think just quality and i don't
00:44:52.600
know why you can't have good quality um music like yours that yeah it happens to mention god or jesus
00:45:03.000
but the others the other music that is pop is mentioning all kinds of darkness and really bad
00:45:10.360
stuff i'd rather have me and my family fill my head with good music that i want to listen to
00:45:18.440
but also have decent lyrics why why can't we why does that have to be in a box that's not pop i
00:45:24.120
think that's gonna change i really do i think it's gonna change i so agree i think also the powers that
00:45:32.520
be in the industry have never had less power because we have virality and social media and this digital
00:45:39.160
age gives everyone a much more of an equal chance to have a voice which means the internet is chaos with
00:45:45.880
music but it's beautiful because there are not as many gatekeepers and i think now we get to see
00:45:53.880
music i think it's it's a little unpredictable now which means the lord has the more control
00:45:59.800
on where the songs get to go and who gets impact which anything in the lord's hands
00:46:04.600
is that's the best hands something can be in so i mean that's what i think and i think it's chaotic but
00:46:11.160
it is a very important time for people to just write the music and make the songs that feels
00:46:16.760
authentic to them and you bring jesus into that whether explicitly or implicitly i think the lord
00:46:22.280
blesses it allison i hope to meet you i just love your music and uh love your attitude thank you keep
00:46:29.080
going thank you allison ide uh allison ide and the name of the song is idk listen to the whole thing i mean
00:46:36.520
it's it's really really really good claudia was leaving for her pickleball tournament i've been
00:46:44.600
visualizing my match all week she was so focused on visualizing that she didn't see the column behind
00:46:50.200
her car on her backhand side good thing claudia is with intact the insurer with the largest network
00:46:56.520
of auto service centers in the country everything was taken care of under one roof and she was on her
00:47:01.240
way in a rental car in no time i made it to my tournament and lost in the first round but you
00:47:07.160
got there on time intact insurance your auto service ace certain conditions apply