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00:03:10.800you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program i want to uh i want to start with uh
00:03:20.940i think it's three guys um trump um calling out the dems violent rhetoric listen to this
00:03:28.920political violence has touched so many people in that room is there something that you as
00:03:36.920president can do? What can be done to change the trajectory? You know, you go back 20 years, 40 years, 100 years, 200 years, 500 years, it's always been there. People are assassinated. People are injured. People are hurt. And I'm not sure that there's any more now than there was. I do think that the hate speech of the Democrats much more so is very dangerous. I really think it's very dangerous for
00:04:06.900country. I have to tell you, Jennifer Say from XXYY, I was reading an article from her. She
00:04:13.840was there. She's not a political person. She went for the first time and she said
00:04:17.500she saw signs, rapist. She was called a rapist for even attending. You're a rapist. You're a0.98
00:04:23.840fascist. All of these signs leading into it. What do you think people are? And what is the1.00
00:04:28.800president supposed to do about that? O'Donnell? What is the president supposed to do? Katie
00:04:35.140Pavlich, host of Katie Pavlich tonight, is with us. She was there with News Nation on Saturday.
00:04:45.400Katie, we are so glad that you're okay and that everybody's all right. How are you feeling today?
00:04:51.180Thanks, Glenn. I was trying to reflect yesterday about what happened,
00:04:57.700but the feeling I keep coming back to is anger and frustration that this continues to happen.
00:05:10.140Because, you know, being in the room and watching Caroline Levitt, who's nine months pregnant, have to be taken out of the room because there's someone outside trying to assassinate her boss and the people she works with.
00:05:26.900and for her potentially watching people who I've known for 16 years, who are my friends.
00:05:34.340Pete Hegseth, for example, was in the room and then they took him outside.
00:05:38.800And once they opened the doors, I was out in the hallway and he came by with his wife, Jennifer.
00:05:44.740And we said hello to each other and said, it's nice to see you.
00:05:49.920And then they whisked him away and he went off to the White House.
00:05:53.060but it's just it's just infuriating that this continues to be something that is acceptable
00:05:59.120um and you know i thought going into the night that security was going to be
00:06:05.420tough i thought it would take me an hour to get into the hotel it it was not tough at all i walked
00:06:10.940by those same protesters you were just talking about with their palestinian flags and they were
00:06:15.300screaming that they hoped our dresses were ruined that our night was ruined that we were fascists
00:06:18.880were going to the dinner um he walked right into the hotel and the security downstairs uh
00:06:25.920magnetometers were right above the ballroom a stairwell away from what everything that was
00:06:31.040happening in the room um yeah it's infuriating um and the manifesto i think speaks for itself
00:06:40.600but it's just it's infuriating it's just that it happened at all let me ask you this um you know
00:06:48.240we saw a couple of pictures there in the room, um, uh, you know, that you just can't fake, um,
00:06:54.540Stephen Miller, um, also, um, you know, our, uh, defense secretary, uh, standing up and shielding
00:07:02.740their wives. Um, and then, and then, you know, pretty in pink, I hear, you know, people, you
00:07:11.300know, rushing to the white house. In fact, I want to give the quote, what, what was it? The quote
00:07:15.180was many of us ran to the White House in very heroic ways
00:07:22.580to make sure that we were there for the press conference.
00:07:25.000And I don't think I've ever heard a sentence with heroic and ran in the same sentence.
00:07:32.780But these journalists, A, I think experienced something for the first time.
00:07:38.940They thought they might be in the line of fire.
00:07:40.940and then they they seem to just make themselves out into heroes what did you actually see
00:07:49.080so we were in the room um they got everyone in and they closed the doors they sealed off the room
00:07:56.800then they brought in president trump the first lady announced them at the front of the room i
00:08:01.300was closer to the back of the room near the doors where the press and everybody else entered
00:08:05.220they announced the president we did the the color guard came in we did the the uh the national
00:08:11.800anthem president trump was seated and about five minutes uh into him being seated and everybody
00:08:17.240starting to get you know comfortable then because i was close to the doors i heard the the gunshots
00:08:24.560and people started hearing them and then because the front of the room was so loud
00:08:29.600people didn't know what was happening up near the stage so we heard the gunshots people around me
00:08:35.980went down on the floor um it was very packed i don't know how they're capable of actually having
00:08:42.940that many people in there it was impossible if we needed to leave the room for people to get out
00:08:47.080so many people got on the floor i was trying to see where the threat was i was trying to see
00:08:52.240if there was someone in the room or if there was someone outside of the room to me it sounded like
00:08:56.920it happened outside of the room but we weren't sure then glass starts breaking you see secret
00:09:01.800service running down the middle of the room to get to the president and they were taken out very
00:09:06.560quickly i mean i turned my head and the president was gone um so they got him out very quickly but
00:09:11.460then they were trying to find other people cabinet secretaries who were sitting in the room and they
00:09:15.480were spread out because different news outlets were right you know they invited hosting was
00:09:20.500guests at their tables right so all these different security details are trying to find
00:09:24.860their people to get them out of the room um and when i heard the shots to me it sounded like a
00:09:31.400controlled situation because it ended quickly there was not a real exchange of gunfire it was
00:09:37.140not something that continued there were about there were five shots when you listen to the audio and
00:09:41.500it was over so to me that indicated that secret service or some other law enforcement agency that
00:09:47.460was there had handled the situation and it was not in the room um but people weren't sure exactly
00:09:53.760would happen and there's no secure there was no service in the room really there was some wi-fi
00:09:57.780but it was very sporadic so people couldn't usually shut that down outside right exactly
00:10:03.040when the president is in the room they usually shut all of that stuff down so nobody can activate
00:10:08.020a bomb using cell service well right and that that was the other you know there's so many
00:10:14.820questions here about the security i mean this guy checked into the hotel um and he had you know he
00:10:21.340I just think it's a miracle that he was an amateur.
00:10:24.240If this had been an organized terrorist group or if this had been a suicide bomber who was able to get into even the upper level above the ballroom, there were thousands of people in the hotel, including captain secretaries, at parties before the event started.
00:10:41.920So this perpetrator waited until the president was seated.
00:10:46.320Clearly, he was watching on television.
00:10:48.500And that's when he tried to get into the room.
00:10:51.340um and he was stopped so secret service did their job um but the lead-up to it if it had
00:10:57.460been more organized uh yeah did you see professional would have been a much worse
00:11:04.300situation for everybody did you see anybody in the room uh katie that um prayed
00:11:12.000i don't i don't think i was paying that close attention but glad to be honest i was looking
00:11:19.820to see you know where we needed to be where people were going um once people realized and the doors
00:11:25.680opened that the threat was over and they were letting people leave people did run out on one
00:11:32.520side they wanted to get out of there other people stood around to try and see if the president was
00:11:36.460coming back there was some talk of him maybe coming back the presidential seal was still on
00:11:40.100the podium on the lectern um he had said he wanted to come back but then secret service
00:11:45.140eventually said we're not going to do that and once the seal came off i knew that he wasn't
00:11:49.160going to be coming back into the room um but people were scared people were on the floor they
00:11:54.580were very nervous they should have been scared but the fact is that this perpetrator was not
00:11:58.440there for them he was there for republicans who work for donald trump and they were there for
00:12:04.080donald trump the media i think absolutely plays a huge role in all of this um but now they found
00:12:14.640themselves a little bit in the crossfire do you think this will change them at all i think there's
00:12:21.240any change coming to the people in the media i'd like to say yes but i don't think so um
00:12:30.720i think that they're maybe today and this week there'll be some reflection but the rhetoric that
00:12:36.800we saw we've seen um from many in the media is very similar to what is in the manifesto um calling
00:12:44.280president a fascist calling him a nazi saying he's a existential threat to the country um that
00:12:50.920is coming from many in the media and it's coming from many mainstream democrats so they've wrapped0.79
00:12:56.440themselves they have too much political capital in this narrative uh to to change it unfortunately
00:13:02.840this is the this is the third assassination attempt plan this is not the first one
00:13:06.680and we haven't seen changes so far um so i'm not sure it will change
00:13:11.640the president refuses to i mean i've asked him several times and um he'll always he'll cut me
00:13:19.640off every time um and i've talked to him privately about it mr president i am so concerned about the
00:13:24.880secret service glenn it's fine it's all fine i've looked into it i trust them but mr president i
00:13:31.380don't want to talk about it anymore i mean he is he he's you know he grew up with the power
00:13:38.740positive thinking norm and vincent peele was his pastor growing up in new york and so he does not
00:13:44.120like to put things into his head that are negative and he doesn't like to talk about them or discuss
00:13:49.500them um and i trust that you know it's his life i trust that he has looked into this but
00:13:55.180are you convinced the secret service is
00:13:58.800capable of protecting our president and the republic
00:14:04.540so um i i actually interviewed the president in january and asked him the same question about his
00:14:12.500safety and you know there are plans for him to go out and campaign for republican candidates ahead
00:14:18.040of the midterm elections um a lot saturday night they did do their job they got they there was no
00:14:25.780one who got into the room the president was the guy they got the guy the guy the president was
00:14:29.840taken out of the room immediately if you watch the video the secret service stood right in front of
00:14:34.220the president, which is their job, in case there had been someone in the room to protect him.
00:14:39.660So they did do their job on that level when something happened. However, given the fact
00:14:47.520that this person checked into this hotel and that the hotel was still operating while the entire
00:14:53.240cabinet and the president of the United States was in the building, and the fact that there was no
00:14:58.440real security perimeter at all for everyone else um that is a failure so two things can be true at
00:15:07.400once they did their job to protect the president but the other factors of the night were atrocious
00:15:15.880um you know waiving your ticket to get in maybe there was no id check there was no list of names
00:15:22.120anybody could have gotten in so long as you you know went to the bagnetometer um
00:15:26.760There were no really working. I saw one working dog. That's it in inside the hotel.
00:15:34.480So the perimeter to get in, I mean, there was no check at the street. Anybody could have walked into the building.
00:15:40.820Katie, Katie, when when you when you look back at this, what is the one thing that you are going?
00:15:48.060What was the image or the one thing that you're going to live with?
00:15:51.800just remember you know hearing that the gunshots and wondering if there was someone in the room
00:15:59.120and knowing immediately that the target was the president um and then hearing the glass breaking
00:16:06.460and and watching you know katie miller being escorted out of the room with her husband when
00:16:12.440she's she's also pregnant um people frantically trying to get their their families out of there
00:16:18.160and also you know once they got the president out the SWAT team I don't know if it's officially
00:16:23.700the SWAT team so forgive me if the language is not proper but they were in the room going table
00:16:28.680to table trying to see what was going on but it was very difficult for them to move around they
00:16:33.740were walking on tables on chairs because people were on the floor and even if the floor was not
00:16:39.080covered in people it was so hard to move around in that room even if you were just nothing was
00:16:44.680happening and it wasn't chaotic so just the sounds the scenes um but also i'll remember the
00:16:50.340president's words at the white house i walked from the hotel to the white house to get into
00:16:54.400that press conference and listening to him say look we need to come together and tone down
00:16:59.520the temperature you know politics is supposed to be a substitute for violence and at this point we
00:17:07.120have one side of the political aisle that is continually pushing the envelope and promoting
00:17:13.220people in their party who have called for murder and they're trying to do it. So where's, where's
00:17:21.200that stop? Katie, I have real respect for you and really admire you and, and thank you for your
00:17:27.680grace, literally under fire. And thanks for coming on today. I appreciate it. And I'm glad you're
00:17:31.600safe. Thanks for the opportunity, Glenn. Good to talk with you. You bet. Good to talk to you.
00:17:35.940Thanks. Katie Pavlich. Boy, I will pray for two people today. I mean, pray for a lot of people,
00:17:42.820but two in particular, Melania Trump and Erica Kirk.
00:19:08.900He said, I've got to stop all the pedophiles. I have to stop all of the racists. I have to stop all the fascists. And it's left up to me. And he then apologized to his family and everybody else. And he seems like a really, really nice guy.0.98
00:19:24.380Let me just tell you, he's not obviously a really nice guy, but he's not evil either. He's not crazy, and he's not a lone wolf.
00:19:34.780He was a guy who had an awful lot of potential, very, very smart, and got himself wrapped up in the left, was part of the No Kings March and everything else, and started to believe all this.
00:19:47.040and then started to convince himself that he was on a mission from God,
00:19:52.780that he had to do the right thing to save the Republic from all of these pedophiles.
00:19:58.600I want to talk to you about this because I have been saying this for a while,
00:20:05.060and it is so important that we take every moment to recognize we've just taken another step towards darkness.
00:20:12.400So you need to take another step and a half towards the light.
00:20:17.040This guy was not evil. This guy thought he was doing right. The only way out of this situation
00:20:26.720now is the God revolution of the past. Not a revolution with guns, but quite honestly,0.99
00:20:32.920that's what got us out of the 1860s. That's what got us out of the 1700s, was a God revolution.
00:20:38.340That was a God revolution. When we went into the Civil War, that was a God revolution.0.77
00:20:42.380when we went into the 1960s gang that was a god revolution at the end it was god that saved us
00:20:49.940it was the uh what did they call it that i think they actually called it the god revolution didn't
00:20:55.860they the jesus revolution that's what it was that's what saves us every time god is the shield
00:21:03.420from the disease of almost right because that's what happened to this guy he he was looking to do
00:21:10.680right. And, and you are not going to be presented with options that are wrong. Very rarely will the
00:21:17.680Gestapo walk in and go, we're the bad guys, join us. They, they, their uniforms with the Gestapo
00:21:25.000were made by Hugo Boss. They were made to look like really great uniforms that you wanted to
00:21:31.660join these guys. They were the good guys. And so you might've made the mistake of going, well,
00:21:38.740maybe they're not so bad. Mistake. But you didn't just choose evil. You chose almost right. Well,
00:21:45.380they look like good guys. Almost right. Well, there are some problems they're dealing with.
00:21:50.200Almost right. And before you know it, you are 180 degrees in the wrong direction.
00:21:56.340We are so close to the edge of evil. Nobody wants to admit it, but we are there.
00:22:01.080And it's the tiny little shifts that will land us in the completely wrong direction
00:22:06.380if we don't consciously choose now which God we serve.
00:25:38.520and my God is not going to say, go kill that person. We have a God of life, not a God of death.
00:25:47.400There is a death culture that is going on in all of society. It's a death cult. Choose life.
00:25:57.580Choose it. This life belongs to me and only me. No one else can change my life except for me.
00:26:04.620I have steward of my life and over everything I have.
00:26:15.240I know, I know this sounds almost ridiculously simple,
00:26:24.880but it is each of us making this choice that will make all of the difference.
00:26:28.420When we choose to think, when we choose to look at things, when we stop saying, I don't know about this, I haven't been following, you have to follow.
00:26:40.800It's your personal responsibility as a human being on planet Earth at this time to follow, to think, to get away from the endless distractions.
00:26:51.460Choose. Choose to live. Really live. Not as a consumer of life, but as its creator. Your life is being created by you.
00:27:06.240Look for. Read. Study. Gaze upon. Engage in acts of kindness, in words of wisdom, in words of beauty.
00:27:17.140moments of genuine connection serve your family first
00:27:22.940feed your own soul with good and truth
00:27:30.420and then you can serve your friends and your community and a world that is starving for
00:27:38.640something real. Become fully alive. Trade the wide easy road of least resistance for the narrow path
00:27:50.160that leads to life. The climb is really steep, but it makes you stronger. And every sacrifice
00:27:59.420is met with grace. Every lonely stretch is filled with God. Become the leader in your own story
00:35:12.940Did somebody get shot and we just couldn't hear it because it was so loud?
00:35:16.040So everybody, you know, a room full of reporters, everybody's trying to figure out who got hurt and what happened.
00:35:21.400And, you know, I happen to be at the table next to Philip Wegman, who's now with The Wall Street Journal, used to be a real clear and Washington Examiner.
00:35:36.720instantly i beelined over for erica's table and um you know it was interesting i ran into
00:35:43.160harris faulkner and uh martha mccallum and they they were like no erica got taken out she's uh
00:35:50.840she was escorted out by security and um harris faulkner was like i was under the table with
00:35:56.500erica we were we were praying together you know um and so that that was the moment and uh you know
00:36:03.960and to your earlier point, Glenn, it's like, oh, she's, it was all staged.
00:36:07.720It's like, you know, yeah, it was all,
00:36:09.880it was all just some giant emotional production guys. That's,
00:36:13.340that's really what we're, that's what we were doing. We, we,
00:36:15.880we were playing five 70 chess with everybody. Uh,
00:36:19.000and we just staged some Democrat who, you know,
00:36:21.380took a train across the country and assembled his weapons in his hotel room
00:36:25.060and teacher of the month and all this stuff that we just did it.
00:36:28.640So for sympathy points, you guys are real, real smart out there. Real,
00:36:32.780real brilliant thinking i mean literally the level of uh just idiocy and brain rot and just i don't0.97
00:36:42.080even know what to make of it but there is such a desire to believe some sort of you know wild0.96
00:36:47.400conspiracy when regardless of what the story is going uh because you know sometimes the truth
00:36:53.340just isn't emotionally satisfying or psychologically satisfying enough for so many people
00:36:57.440and it's just really disgusting um i was in that room my heart was pounding through my chest
00:37:02.600everybody was shaken up um you know i'm not i'm not saying here i'm traumatized glenn i wasn't
00:37:09.220there on you know when charlie was killed at uvu um obviously i didn't see anything crazy here it
00:37:16.060was just you know because it was a the floor above and outside the the ballroom but i will tell you
00:37:21.440it was scary in that room and everybody was was shaken up and um so i'm just kind of disgusted
00:37:26.580to be honest, that like whether it's the left or some fringe right crazy people that are still
00:37:33.000cannot be convinced that like, hey, there's bad people in the world. A lot of them happen to be
00:37:37.680on the left and they want to kill people. So what is this going to mean? I mean, I know Erica and0.96
00:37:46.000the vice president were supposed to speak this week together. Is that going to go on? How do
00:37:50.320What does this mean for future events, not just for you, but for any of it?
00:37:55.340Yeah, I mean, listen, I think details are still getting worked out.
00:38:02.200You know, I think when it came to the University of Georgia, you know, we weren't really coordinated as closely as we could have been with the Secret Service when JD's in an event, right?
00:38:14.980We kind of take care of our own security.
00:38:16.600We kind of take care of our own travel and to and fro.
00:38:19.000So I think that's one of the ideas that maybe we can coordinate better to make sure, you know, Erica's got a full detail and just kind of write in with J.D.
00:38:30.700I mean, listen, every event's different.
00:38:32.500Every event has its own security precautions and protocols that we need to put in place.
00:38:36.960And so I don't want to make any broad generalizations or grand statements.
00:38:41.320But, yeah, I mean, it's a terrifying reality.
00:38:43.780I mean, when we had the University of Georgia event where Erica had to step out, I was grateful to step in and I was glad to do it, honored to do it.
00:38:53.120You know, there was, oh, well, if J.D. can get there and Erica can't, you know, it must have been lying or something.
00:39:01.540He has secret service and secret service.
00:39:04.760Let me tell you something. Even my own family, when you have a key man who is on the person, the protectorate, they don't look around for others. Their job is to get that one person out. Secret Service is to get the vice president out. It doesn't matter who's standing next to him. Their job is to get him to security because of the republic. For the love of Pete, people, use your stinking brains.
00:39:34.760in in that yeah and glenn in that instance and i i actually appreciate your anger the whole thing0.98
00:39:39.400is so infuriating the you know the the issue wasn't necessarily the venue the secret service
00:39:44.840had been there like clearing the venue it was getting her to and fro she was getting docked
00:39:49.080like actively by a bunch of accounts that were you know that that was the real issue with the
00:39:53.560travel but anyway it doesn't matter that does she does she want to continue to do this andrew
00:39:59.880i mean how much i mean listen she's she's she is absolutely committed to and i don't want to put
00:40:05.400words in erica's mouth i think she's gonna she's probably going to kind of clarify what this event
00:40:11.000has meant to her you know at some point this week and kind of where her head's at so i don't want
00:40:15.400to speak for her but you know actually she's completely uh committed and devoted to you know
00:40:21.960fulfilling charlie's legacy and mission and and none of that has changed um obviously this was
00:40:27.080was, you know, this was a triggering experience in more ways than one.
00:44:58.240You bet. All right. I tell you, I've reached out to John Fetterman a couple of times just to say, you know, we don't agree on a lot of stuff, but you have been a remarkable man and very, very brave.
00:45:14.200If he's going to be primary, he will never win again.
00:45:17.220And it's interesting to me that somebody who just says common sense stuff, that is a Democrat who doesn't agree with me.
00:45:26.940I mean, I'm not going to vote for John Fetterman, but who is just a Democrat is so chased out of their own party.
00:45:33.100They can't have anybody who is at all not a radical.
00:45:41.460And that's the number one thing. Democrats, you know, you're not an innocent bystander at this point. There's too much evidence. There's just too much evidence. You're not an innocent bystander. These people want to destroy the United States of America.
00:45:57.860If you want a violent destruction of your country, you just keep going down this road.