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00:00:00.000 Well, podcasters, if you like Andrew Cuomo, or I'm sorry, Chris Cuomo, his very, very

00:00:06.280 buff brother on CNN, today's not your podcast, as we do, we do bring him up just a little

00:00:13.780 bit.

00:00:14.620 Also, Andrew McCarthy is, is on, he's a former federal prosecutor, and he kind of talks a

00:00:20.660 little bit about, you know, what Mueller really said yesterday, what, what really happened,

00:00:26.640 and why did we even have this investigation if the Department of Justice can't do anything?

00:00:33.740 He's fascinating.

00:00:34.880 Also, we talk a little bit about the new Green Deal and global warming with a great expert.

00:00:39.520 Cliff Maloney is with us.

00:00:40.840 He is the president of Young Americans for Liberty, and I think I can explain the 2020 presidential

00:00:50.040 candidates, why we think, what's happened?

00:00:55.060 How is this so crazy?

00:00:56.540 We've got a complete explanation for you at the end of the podcast.

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00:01:09.240 The point is, socialist spotlight is tonight, and tonight's, we shine the light on Bernie Sanders,

00:01:15.660 and more specifically, the people who are surrounding Bernie Sanders in his newly formed campaign

00:01:21.380 are amazing.

00:01:23.200 This is important for you to watch, but it is probably even more important for Democratic

00:01:28.240 friends of yours to watch.

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00:01:51.020 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:54.980 I, uh, I am so, I, I, I, I don't, I don't watch cable news anymore, and I don't watch cable

00:02:07.160 news anymore because I can't take it.

00:02:09.100 I mean, it's, I know exactly what they were going to say yesterday.

00:02:11.980 If you watched it, you knew exactly what they were going to say.

00:02:15.240 Um, it didn't matter.

00:02:17.180 The truth doesn't seem to matter.

00:02:19.020 Nobody's really looking for the truth.

00:02:22.240 Uh, and we feel overwhelmed between Facebook, Google, even Wikipedia.

00:02:28.120 We've done a, the last couple of shows on television, we did short segments on who Wikipedia really

00:02:34.500 is, you know, right now we are giving our intellectual, um, power over to two companies, Google and

00:02:49.200 Wikipedia.

00:02:51.280 Well, we know who Google is, but try to sit in a room and say to somebody, Oh, what was the

00:02:57.300 name of that guy that was in that movie with, uh, somebody will Google it.

00:03:01.820 Try to go a day without Google.

00:03:05.040 And once it's said on Google, that's true.

00:03:08.680 No matter what the topic is, if Google has produced that result, that's absolutely true.

00:03:17.200 And we are being manipulated, but not only that, we are giving up our intellectual power because

00:03:24.160 our power is being externalized.

00:03:27.240 We're taking our knowledge and externalizing it.

00:03:29.860 We're giving it to someone else.

00:03:31.500 And we are losing that muscle of being able to find truth, to know and recognize the truth.

00:03:40.200 That's the real problem in America.

00:03:42.260 People don't know how to find it.

00:03:43.700 They don't know how to recognize it.

00:03:45.520 They don't, they don't even believe that it exists anymore unless it comes from Google or

00:03:50.600 Wikipedia.

00:03:53.340 We did, uh, we, we spend the last couple of days just looking at Wikipedia and what they say and,

00:03:58.860 and who is editing Wikipedia.

00:04:02.780 This thing is, is so frequently used that it's, it's as if we took the entire population of the world

00:04:13.560 and everybody visited it twice a month.

00:04:16.640 Now think of that.

00:04:20.160 That's how much it's being used.

00:04:23.600 So what is it?

00:04:26.060 Who's making these edits?

00:04:27.580 Well, you have 1,400 people that are responsible for most of Wikipedia, 1,400 people.

00:04:39.480 And if you look at the leaders of, of that, they're all communist, Marxist, Antifa members.

00:04:46.800 I mean, they're all people that do not agree with you.

00:04:50.020 1,400 people are the ones that are compiling the world's knowledge and they're not like

00:04:59.020 you.

00:05:01.180 You feel alone because it's so huge, but there are very few people that are doing it.

00:05:09.000 Tonight on television, we're going to go to Bernie Sanders and I'm going to show you who

00:05:14.320 Bernie Sanders is surrounding himself with.

00:05:17.260 Forget everything you think about Bernie Sanders.

00:05:20.000 Forget about it.

00:05:21.500 What we're going to expose tonight and on Monday, it's a two-parter is remarkable.

00:05:29.000 The people he has surrounded himself with are some of the worst people out there.

00:05:36.780 Now, remember, I'm the guy who said, hey, Donald Trump, he says he surrounds himself with the

00:05:42.520 best, but he doesn't.

00:05:44.280 Steve Bannon and pretty much all the people who have caused any of the problems that he

00:05:48.560 got rid of right away.

00:05:49.900 Those were the people we said, this is the real problem.

00:05:53.320 Look who he's surrounding himself with.

00:05:56.280 And he figured that out pretty quickly and got rid of all of those people.

00:06:01.300 Bernie Sanders has worse people around him.

00:06:06.780 And there's no chance of these people going away because these are the people that are

00:06:12.200 actually causing the split in the Democratic Party that no one else will talk about.

00:06:18.060 What we're going to show you tonight on television at five o'clock on Bernie Sanders is more important

00:06:23.460 really for Democrats to watch than it is even you because you're not going to vote for Bernie

00:06:29.620 Sanders.

00:06:30.020 I'm not going to vote for Bernie Sanders.

00:06:31.400 But there's going to be a lot of people that do vote for Bernie Sanders and they will have

00:06:36.300 no idea what he really believes based on who he has put in charge of his policies and his

00:06:46.940 campaign.

00:06:47.480 It is a terrifying look.

00:06:51.760 But it is the same kind of people.

00:06:54.840 It is.

00:06:55.340 I just said to the researchers two days ago as we were looking into this.

00:07:00.240 They brought me, you know, the latest stuff.

00:07:03.680 And I said, go a step further.

00:07:06.960 Because you've tracked this back to 2008.

00:07:09.760 I can guarantee you that we're going to find the same people that we were talking about

00:07:16.520 in 2008 as their mentors.

00:07:20.140 It's a very small group of people that are trying to tell the masses something that we

00:07:27.320 never have used in America.

00:07:29.320 We've never described the American people as the masses.

00:07:32.740 But the masses are what is being discussed by many of these democratic socialists, what

00:07:42.520 we have to do for the masses.

00:07:46.720 And they're forgetting the individual.

00:07:52.920 And they do it because they think that it is their arrogance.

00:07:57.360 It is their arrogance that will be their undoing.

00:07:59.760 There is this cocoon that these Marxist, socialist progressives live in, where they control the

00:08:09.320 intellectual debate and the intellectual neighborhood.

00:08:13.520 Everybody who owns a house in the intellectual neighborhood, all those people, they're all on

00:08:18.880 board.

00:08:19.400 And they make sure that no one else moves into that neighborhood.

00:08:26.320 They also control the media and Hollywood.

00:08:29.760 And they make sure that no one else.

00:08:33.440 I read an article from CNN last night that actually said that the mainstream media looked very

00:08:42.740 different than Fox News.

00:08:44.640 And they actually put Fox News out of the mainstream media, which in some ways I agree with.

00:08:53.560 However, they're more mainstream than CNN.

00:08:57.440 More people are watching Fox News and more diverse than watching CNN.

00:09:05.460 You have liberals watching Fox News.

00:09:09.240 How many people that are conservative are watching CNN?

00:09:13.160 How many of us can even take CNN anymore?

00:09:20.340 And they're living in this cocoon where they just protect each other and they grow more and

00:09:26.200 more arrogant because they live truly in an echo chamber.

00:09:31.180 Now, many of us on the right live in an echo chamber, too.

00:09:33.940 But nowhere near what the elitist left lives in.

00:09:40.940 Chris Cuomo yesterday.

00:09:43.880 Can we play the video that we played yesterday afternoon of the woman, the NRA spokeswoman,

00:09:51.900 who was horribly raped? 0.50

00:09:54.020 She was on she's been on this program before and she was horribly raped for for two hours. 0.97

00:10:03.520 She was raped when she went to college and everybody said, oh, no, this is really safe. 0.84

00:10:08.900 You're going to be fine. 0.94

00:10:09.800 Well, she was the first woman to be raped at that particular dorm. 1.00

00:10:14.840 Here's her story.

00:10:15.860 Listen, I was a normal 20 year old college student.

00:10:19.040 When I moved into off campus housing, they boasted that it was safe, not a single incident

00:10:24.260 since it had opened.

00:10:26.900 I was the first.

00:10:29.120 I woke up in the middle of the night, suffocating. 1.00

00:10:33.100 Shut up, he said. 1.00

00:10:34.840 Don't say a word. 1.00

00:10:36.900 For the next two hours, I knew I was going to die and there was nothing I could do.

00:10:44.140 Now I'm a mother of two.

00:10:45.440 And if that predator or anyone else tries to harm me or my family, they have to come

00:10:51.760 through my firearm first.

00:10:54.060 I will never be unarmed or utterly vulnerable ever again.

00:10:58.880 The only reason I can say that is because the NRA fought for my rights before I ever

00:11:03.860 knew that I needed them.

00:11:05.740 I'm the National Rifle Association of America and I'm freedom's safest place.

00:11:11.980 So, uh, Chris Cuomo tweets yesterday, only in America.

00:11:17.960 What the hell does that mean?

00:11:19.620 Only in America.

00:11:21.600 Now I can take that as a positive. 0.98

00:11:23.480 Damn right. 0.93

00:11:24.160 Only in America can anyone go out and buy themselves a gun to be able to protect themselves and their 0.98

00:11:30.240 family.

00:11:31.180 Yeah.

00:11:31.580 Only in America.

00:11:32.560 But that's not what he meant.

00:11:35.840 Only in America.

00:11:36.920 Now I contend that he never even watched the video.

00:11:40.240 He just, he just did what everybody does and they see something.

00:11:46.880 He saw NRA.

00:11:48.140 I'm a mother of a predator comes in.

00:11:50.820 I'm going to use my firearm.

00:11:52.920 He just read the tweet, didn't watch the video, saw NRA and thought, oh my gosh, look at this.

00:12:00.120 Only in America.

00:12:01.220 Well, he got hammered yesterday as he should have been hammered, but you'll notice this

00:12:10.260 is not going to destroy his career.

00:12:12.900 This is not going to even be a blip in his life.

00:12:16.900 And usually when you mock rape victims, you have some problems going on.

00:12:21.220 But not in this case.

00:12:23.780 I mean, he, you know, and if you know anything about Chris Cuomo, which most people don't,

00:12:27.860 he always doubles down and he believes he's the smartest man in the world.

00:12:32.320 So he thinks he can always talk himself out of these situations and he just falls.

00:12:36.440 He's just, he's sideshow Bob walking into rakes over and over and over again everywhere

00:12:41.460 he turns.

00:12:42.060 That's Chris Cuomo.

00:12:42.880 Right.

00:12:43.540 And this is the guy who just last week was defending a woman who said that thing that's

00:12:50.360 growing in a woman's uterus is not a baby. 0.89

00:12:54.080 He sided with her.

00:12:55.360 He sided with her. 1.00

00:12:56.540 So the guy is a complete lunatic, lunatic. 1.00

00:13:00.580 Let's first discuss just that. 1.00

00:13:04.780 We are now, we're now feeling it necessary to defend ourselves to people who have gone mad.

00:13:17.880 We are, we are no longer at a place to where we're talking about Roe versus Wade.

00:13:24.000 We're talking about arguing with people who say that even until birth, that's not a baby.

00:13:32.520 What are we doing?

00:13:35.280 Why do we feel like we've gone insane?

00:13:38.360 The world has gone insane.

00:13:40.860 You've stood in place, which is the right thing to do.

00:13:45.340 You've stood in place as everyone else has gone off the crazy cliff.

00:13:51.420 And this small number of people happen to have power in the media and in the political organizations.

00:14:00.440 And so they are manipulating it to make it feel like you are the one.

00:14:06.080 No, you're not the one.

00:14:07.740 You're not the one.

00:14:09.020 They're the handful.

00:14:13.600 Chris Cuomo, let me ask you this.

00:14:17.200 Should we make handgun use safe, rare?

00:14:26.400 Safe and rare?

00:14:28.600 Should we do that?

00:14:30.800 Because it's, what's the third one, Stu?

00:14:32.640 It's safe, rare and legal.

00:14:34.080 Yeah, legal.

00:14:34.860 But maybe we should just take handgun use and we should, we should make it a woman's choice. 1.00

00:14:42.140 And women can, women can use guns at any time for any reason. 1.00

00:14:48.400 Or should we just, should we just make it legal for rape and incest? 0.99

00:14:55.400 Because here was a, a rape victim that you supposedly care about.

00:14:59.860 You're the, that's the one you used to say you're fighting for.

00:15:03.320 The one that you can never really understand.

00:15:05.860 You could never, you would never even put yourself, how dare you even question someone who is a rape victim?

00:15:13.040 And what they decide to do, well, you just question them.

00:15:18.700 So is it your, your hatred for children?

00:15:21.880 I know you're saying that you, you're, you're against, you know, you want more gun control because of the children.

00:15:28.400 But wait a minute, you're at the same time arguing for the death of children.

00:15:33.360 In fact, not even identifying children. 1.00

00:15:36.200 You can just kill that thing five minutes before it's born. 1.00

00:15:40.780 Do you hate children? 1.00

00:15:42.880 Do you hate women? 0.75

00:15:45.400 Because I think maybe you'd be best served if you were consistent. 1.00

00:15:50.500 It's rape and incest. 1.00

00:15:52.660 And women, women have the right to do with their body whatever they want to do. 1.00

00:15:57.620 And so they could use a handgun at any time.

00:16:02.380 Whoever they shoot is not really a person unless they declare them to be a person.

00:16:11.120 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:16:19.460 Hi, it's Glenn.

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00:16:31.480 Douglas, you're on the Glenn Beck program.

00:16:33.440 Welcome.

00:16:34.860 Douglas, are you there?

00:16:35.920 I am here, yes.

00:16:36.740 Yes, hi.

00:16:37.360 Yes, Douglas Cloisterman.

00:16:39.000 I'm a spokesperson for Christopher Cuomo.

00:16:41.900 You're a spokesperson?

00:16:42.740 Yes, I happen to hear some of your commentary here.

00:16:45.080 Very disappointed in the way you looked at this incident.

00:16:48.020 I've been talking to Chris since it happened, and there were some issues.

00:16:52.180 He did write only in America.

00:16:53.980 Right.

00:16:54.800 However, you have to remember, he did not have a lot of space.

00:16:57.260 Twitter is a short form of communication.

00:17:00.320 Yeah, I think there's 270 characters he could use.

00:17:03.300 He used a dozen or so.

00:17:05.820 He used 15 characters.

00:17:07.300 Right.

00:17:07.620 Now, he usually tweets from the gym, and he also does usually about 15 reps of max rack pulls.

00:17:14.540 So he may have been confused by that.

00:17:16.460 Right, okay, okay.

00:17:17.680 I think a lot of times Chris tries to reveal his softer side.

00:17:22.680 In a similar way, he wrote, I'm sorry for the confusion.

00:17:28.220 Take this issue seriously.

00:17:30.480 Also, as you know, muscles don't stop bullets is what he wrote.

00:17:34.740 Right.

00:17:34.860 And it's very true.

00:17:36.280 You know, it's the same way he likes to reveal a little bit of his softer side.

00:17:40.000 The same way he kind of usually unbuttons the top two buttons on his shirt while he's broadcasting on CNN.

00:17:45.960 Right.

00:17:46.380 Revealing just a little bit of his perfectly crafted chest.

00:17:49.380 Right.

00:17:49.620 I talked to him at the gym yesterday after this went down, and he was broken up.

00:17:53.900 It was sad.

00:17:56.360 It was leg day.

00:17:57.180 He was doing quads, calves, and glutes.

00:17:58.700 Right.

00:17:59.100 And it really was a big misunderstanding.

00:18:01.960 And I went back to him after this, and I said, you know, a few hours later, I called him, and I said, you know, you've had a tough day today.

00:18:09.840 And he said, you know, I'm actually at the gym right now working on my planks up to 44 minutes now, which is pretty impressive, actually.

00:18:17.420 But he said, our discourse is like arm day.

00:18:21.800 You know, when you're triceps and you're doing the skull crushers.

00:18:25.000 He said, it's dangerous.

00:18:26.900 I know.

00:18:27.400 It leaves you sore afterwards, but it's worth it.

00:18:29.960 Right.

00:18:30.200 And I think that's what we needed to communicate.

00:18:31.600 I don't even know what you're talking about.

00:18:33.240 I talked to him in that evening, and he was obviously not at the gym anymore.

00:18:37.160 He was taking a shower at the gym.

00:18:38.620 Right.

00:18:38.900 And he said, we need to wash ourselves of this angst, like the suds dripping down my perfectly crafted chestnut core.

00:18:45.140 Right.

00:18:45.460 And I thought it was.

00:18:47.060 You're a spokesperson.

00:18:47.980 I don't think this is helping his case at all.

00:18:51.140 Yeah.

00:18:51.780 Look, he said very clearly to me, and I want your listeners to hear this.

00:18:56.080 We need to inject grace into our discourse in the same way you'd inject anabolic steroids into your neck before a workout. 0.91

00:19:04.000 All right.

00:19:05.020 Thank you, I think.

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00:19:45.540 Pat Gray is joining us now from his podcast.

00:19:49.140 Are you so glad about that, too?

00:19:51.920 Don't seem like it.

00:19:52.920 No, I'm not really.

00:19:53.780 No, no.

00:19:54.520 I wanted to be honest.

00:19:55.540 You know, people ask, hey, how are you?

00:19:57.760 I like to think about it and give an honest answer.

00:20:00.080 Hey, are you glad I'm here?

00:20:01.340 That's good.

00:20:01.760 You want to tell the truth?

00:20:02.800 No.

00:20:03.140 No.

00:20:03.480 No, I'm not.

00:20:04.980 But Pat is doing the work, you know, that really not a lot of Americans will do, and that is watch the view.

00:20:13.720 Right.

00:20:14.040 So you don't have to.

00:20:14.920 Right.

00:20:15.320 Yeah.

00:20:15.600 Right.

00:20:16.380 Because sometimes you see some interesting things.

00:20:19.540 It's very rare.

00:20:20.800 Really?

00:20:21.020 But every once in a while something happens.

00:20:23.600 Like yesterday, there were a couple of things.

00:20:26.240 One of the things that happened was that the girls were edited as they were bashing Trump. 0.98

00:20:31.900 Uh, here's what happened on, on the view yesterday.

00:20:36.140 What if he calls him sleepy, Joe?

00:20:37.920 What is that supposed to mean?

00:20:39.320 Can we pause it for a second right there, though?

00:20:40.820 Let's pause it for a second.

00:20:42.420 Joy Behar doesn't know what the word sleepy means.

00:20:44.980 He calls him sleepy, Joe.

00:20:48.420 What does that mean?

00:20:49.400 Do you think anybody sleeps around her? 0.91

00:20:51.140 Sleepy?

00:20:52.540 Nobody sleeps around her. 0.77

00:20:53.960 It's not really complicated, though.

00:20:55.460 Look it up.

00:20:56.080 There's no such word in the dictionary.

00:20:59.800 A Google search turns up nothing.

00:21:02.140 I don't know.

00:21:02.740 What is sleepy?

00:21:03.580 I don't get it.

00:21:04.420 Anyway, there's more.

00:21:06.740 It doesn't matter.

00:21:07.800 This is one of his things.

00:21:09.560 He calls people's names, calls people's names.

00:21:11.820 But I just think people are tired of it.

00:21:14.180 They don't care.

00:21:14.860 You call people names and stuff.

00:21:16.320 Well, I mean, listen, you can get into them to the first edit.

00:21:23.440 That's second.

00:21:25.820 But you know what we're doing?

00:21:27.440 We are in that third.

00:21:31.440 And they do it one more time, too.

00:21:33.020 They edit them four times in that little swearing or something.

00:21:37.460 I don't think they were.

00:21:38.540 I think one time they swore.

00:21:40.600 But most of it was just like Trump bashing.

00:21:43.900 I think.

00:21:44.500 Are you sure this was an edit or this was a satellite?

00:21:50.180 No, that's what I thought.

00:21:51.180 It was a technical problem.

00:21:52.640 But let's see.

00:21:55.580 We discovered it wasn't a technical problem because of the blurring of the lips.

00:22:01.140 They also took the time to blur.

00:22:02.960 I think it was Joy's lips.

00:22:04.480 So you couldn't tell what you were saying.

00:22:06.200 I know.

00:22:07.140 The whole thing.

00:22:08.940 We used to do the Jeffy cam.

00:22:10.320 Remember we used to blur Jeffy every time he came on the air?

00:22:12.900 Yes.

00:22:13.180 Wouldn't that be appropriate for Joy?

00:22:14.500 I think so, too.

00:22:15.160 The Joy cam.

00:22:15.860 That would bring people joy.

00:22:17.320 It would.

00:22:17.820 Also blur out her name because she's not named properly. 0.98

00:22:20.960 There is no Joy where Joy is concerned.

00:22:24.300 We've noticed that before.

00:22:26.020 And it's getting worse, I think, as time goes on.

00:22:28.780 Joy just seems to be.

00:22:30.740 So when did ABC start to edit?

00:22:33.960 That's what I'd like to know.

00:22:34.980 I don't know why they're doing that.

00:22:36.560 I don't know if there's some directive now.

00:22:41.440 Ratings?

00:22:42.140 The ratings?

00:22:43.180 Maybe they know they can't stop these women from saying these things. 0.95

00:22:46.840 And the ratings are dying.

00:22:47.680 I don't know.

00:22:48.600 Maybe it's just they're just editing when Joy speaks.

00:22:52.000 And whoopie.

00:22:53.280 It'd be a better show.

00:22:55.120 Yeah.

00:22:55.260 You know, and they might consider, I don't know, rather than editing, that takes a lot

00:22:59.020 of effort, is take her off the show. 1.00

00:23:02.020 You ever thought of that?

00:23:03.220 Can you imagine?

00:23:04.020 I mean, I've not heard this anywhere.

00:23:07.140 And can you imagine if Fox News would have dropped my audio while I was talking about

00:23:13.320 Obama?

00:23:14.280 Can you imagine what would have been said?

00:23:16.380 Oh.

00:23:17.480 From the left and the right.

00:23:19.300 Yeah.

00:23:19.760 They probably would have cheered.

00:23:21.500 Yeah, but they would have, they would have demanded, they would have made a big deal

00:23:24.280 out of it.

00:23:24.520 What was it he said?

00:23:25.440 What did he say?

00:23:26.420 What did he say?

00:23:27.580 Look at Fox News.

00:23:28.900 He's even too extreme for Fox News.

00:23:31.720 What did he say?

00:23:32.540 Yada, yada, yada.

00:23:33.620 Who's making that decision?

00:23:35.200 There's a falling out.

00:23:36.180 Nobody's even.

00:23:36.600 Nobody's talking about this.

00:23:37.840 I mean, what was it they were saying about Trump that was so bad?

00:23:40.620 ABC had to edit it.

00:23:43.640 I don't know.

00:23:44.220 Wasn't it a long time ago that Joy Behar supposedly left The View to go do gigs in the Catskills

00:23:49.280 or something?

00:23:50.280 That was a long time ago.

00:23:52.300 There was something about that.

00:23:53.000 How did she get back on the show?

00:23:54.240 Has the show been on the whole time?

00:23:55.800 The Catskills.

00:23:56.460 The Catskills.

00:23:57.700 Yes.

00:23:58.300 Surrounded ABC and demanded they take her back.

00:24:01.720 Everyone in the Catskills, they were like, look, man, we are, we're bad with bad comedy.

00:24:07.880 We're down with bad comedy and old people. 1.00

00:24:10.180 But this one, this is a bridge too far.

00:24:13.640 Calls him Sleepy Jaw.

00:24:14.920 What is that supposed to mean?

00:24:16.360 You know, it doesn't matter.

00:24:18.140 This is one of his things.

00:24:19.900 He calls people's names, call people's names.

00:24:22.240 But I just think people are tired of it.

00:24:24.540 They don't care.

00:24:24.980 Well, let's stop one more time.

00:24:25.700 I love the, the sleepy thing is really a charming part of this that you pointed out.

00:24:29.700 It is.

00:24:30.000 Because number one, like she's trying to get a comedy rant started of some sort. 1.00

00:24:34.440 Like she, she's got something she wants to get to.

00:24:36.720 Sleepy, what does that mean?

00:24:38.320 And the Catskills population are going, you see, you see.

00:24:42.800 That's why we rejected her. 0.99

00:24:44.620 That's why we gave her back.

00:24:46.420 Remember the time when she said she was funnier than you?

00:24:49.320 Yes.

00:24:50.220 That may be true now.

00:24:51.280 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:25:11.760 Contributing editor, National Review.

00:25:13.840 And you can find him at andrewmccarthy.com.

00:25:17.480 Andy is a former federal prosecutor and a good friend and a good friend of the program.

00:25:24.060 What the hell happened yesterday, Andy?

00:25:27.200 What, what was, what did, what did a rational person take away from that press conference yesterday?

00:25:35.480 What were we supposed to learn?

00:25:37.440 Well, I think, Glenn, that the upshot of it is that Mueller wanted it understood that he was transmitting,

00:25:47.480 his obstruction information to Congress with the understanding that it's for Congress to deal with presidential misconduct.

00:25:57.600 I mean, I think to cut to the chase, that's the bottom line.

00:26:01.620 And I've always thought it's easier to look at this, especially for the non-lawyer.

00:26:09.040 I can, I can just imagine how, how people's heads spin.

00:26:12.580 But the thing to bear in mind with this is that Congress does not need a prosecutable case,

00:26:21.760 felony offense in order to impeach.

00:26:24.980 Right.

00:26:25.120 It needs misconduct that, what the framers' idea would have been, would be an abuse of power,

00:26:33.160 an egregious abuse of the public trust.

00:26:36.240 Gerald Ford, I think, was, was more cynical, but maybe more accurate in 1970,

00:26:42.440 when he was the minority leader of the House trying to impeach Justice William O. Douglas.

00:26:48.580 And he said an impeachable offense is anything that the House of Representatives decides it is in a given moment in history.

00:26:57.380 And so what I think has gone on here all along is Mueller has taken his writ,

00:27:05.960 which was not a traditional prosecutor's writ, even though it was supposed to be under the regulations.

00:27:10.920 He was really given a counterintelligence investigation, not a criminal investigation.

00:27:17.440 And even though that distinction, I think, sometimes makes people's eyes glaze over,

00:27:21.940 it's important because counterintelligence is really just an information-gathering exercise.

00:27:27.300 It's not necessarily geared toward building a criminal case.

00:27:32.060 So in the normal criminal case or the normal situation, there would be a basis to believe a crime got committed,

00:27:40.060 and then you assign a prosecutor.

00:27:42.440 Here, what they did was they used the Russia interference in the election as a pretext for assigning a prosecutor

00:27:53.000 a counterintelligence investigation, which effectively unleashed him to look for a crime

00:27:59.220 under circumstances where there was no factual basis to believe a crime had been committed.

00:28:07.220 So, Andy, help me out on this.

00:28:11.100 Why did the Department of Justice lead this if they had no way to charge the president with anything?

00:28:22.500 Glenn, I think there's two different things here that Mueller has conflated,

00:28:26.780 and he's completely wrong about this.

00:28:30.220 There's two different decisions that have to be made.

00:28:32.960 One is, do we have enough evidence to prosecute?

00:28:37.080 And secondly, assuming the answer to the first question is yes,

00:28:43.100 do we invoke the Justice Department guidance that says a sitting president may not be indicted?

00:28:51.200 The first decision doesn't have anything really to do with the second decision.

00:28:56.120 They're factually distinct.

00:28:58.960 And the first decision on the sufficiency of the evidence is the decision that's supposed to be made

00:29:05.680 by the prosecutor who's assigned to the case.

00:29:08.880 So Mueller's job here, all this nonsense he talks about, how we can't, you know,

00:29:15.160 because the Justice Department can't charge, obviously that should not have entered into our minds. 0.96

00:29:21.480 That's ridiculous.

00:29:23.040 He has to make a call about whether there's a case or not.

00:29:27.200 And then if it turns out that he thinks that there is a case, which means there is evidence that a prosecutor believes

00:29:35.600 a rational jury could convict the accused on beyond a reasonable doubt,

00:29:40.680 then it's up to the Justice Department as an institution to decide whether to invoke the guidance that says

00:29:47.680 a sitting president can't be indicted.

00:29:51.060 But there's no reason to use that as a basis or a rationale for not making the decision about whether there's a case or not.

00:30:00.840 So do you think he was he wanted the president to be impeached?

00:30:05.060 And so he just left that door open because he couldn't make a case.

00:30:12.080 And so he left that door open knowing that impeachment is whatever the Congress can convince the American people is bad.

00:30:21.060 Uh, we can impeach on yet.

00:30:24.660 Glenn, I think this is, I think they figured out this is Mueller and his staff that this was the surest way to get their evidence to the Congress.

00:30:36.520 And what I mean by that is if Mueller had decided that there was a, uh, there was an obstruction case,

00:30:45.020 then he would have recommended that to the attorney general bar.

00:30:50.780 Now, by the time this came around and bar was the attorney general,

00:30:57.500 Mueller had to know that the theory under which he was investigating obstruction was different and not going to be acceptable to the Justice Department under bar.

00:31:09.580 Because Barr has a very different idea, and I think it's the correct idea, but that's neither here nor there.

00:31:15.680 They have different ideas about what obstruction is.

00:31:19.980 Mueller was investigating it on a much looser theory.

00:31:23.220 And I think that if he had recommended charges, then he would have had trouble getting that report out the door.

00:31:30.360 Because then there would have been a big Justice Department to do over whether he had applied the right legal standard or not.

00:31:38.900 Instead, what he did curiously, but I think probably in the end cleverly, was to say,

00:31:45.800 I've got to decide, um, and here's what I'm going to do.

00:31:51.800 I'm just going to give you the evidence on both sides of the question and not make a decision.

00:31:57.320 And I'll rely for doing that on the Justice Department guidance that says you can't indict a sitting president anyway.

00:32:05.180 And that way, he managed to get his evidence out the door.

00:32:09.340 Whereas I think if he had recommended a charge, that this would have all gone very differently.

00:32:14.700 So now, what, because last night what I heard were two things.

00:32:21.420 One, I respect the Attorney General.

00:32:26.180 Barr is clean and good with me.

00:32:28.140 I think he did the right thing.

00:32:29.540 That's not what the media was reporting.

00:32:31.800 Did I miss something on that one?

00:32:34.780 No, I don't think so.

00:32:36.080 I think, um, the, the big area of controversy that the media has focused on is that Barr testified that at least three times emphatically Mueller told him that his decision not to make a decision on, uh, obstruction was not because of the Office of Legal Counsel guidance that you can't indict a sitting president.

00:33:02.760 And then, lo and behold, if you look at the report, that is exactly the reason that he relies on.

00:33:08.900 So the, the, the argument was that Barr had misled everyone along these lines.

00:33:15.600 And I think Mueller is conceding that he did say to Barr what Barr contends.

00:33:21.900 That is, that the OLC guidance wasn't the reason.

00:33:24.120 Now, what I think people are missing that we should focus on is the timeline.

00:33:30.060 Here's what I think happened here, Glenn.

00:33:31.620 The first time that they meet after Barr is confirmed is March 5th.

00:33:37.280 And it's at that meeting that Mueller tells Barr, I'm not going to decide on the obstruction.

00:33:44.680 Barr asks him, is that because of the OLC guidance?

00:33:47.160 He says no.

00:33:48.280 And then Barr says to him, well, what's the reason?

00:33:50.480 And he says, we're still formulating our reason.

00:33:54.280 And then two and a half weeks later, he files his report and he uses the OLC guidance as the reason.

00:34:01.340 So I think what happened here is Mueller just decided not to decide with rationale to be filled in later.

00:34:08.200 And as they, as it got down to the end, they decided to rely on the OLC guidance.

00:34:13.180 So I think maybe on March 5th, he didn't realize that that was where he was coming out.

00:34:17.460 But by the time he filed the report on March 22nd, that was what he relied on.

00:34:23.560 The other thing is I gathered that what he was saying was, look, all of the evidence that you need to impeach

00:34:33.520 and the only evidence that we could find is in the report.

00:34:37.400 You have it all.

00:34:38.080 So don't come to me and ask and don't do anything.

00:34:41.500 You have to decide this is impeachable or not.

00:34:45.860 And I read through the lines that he was thinking that it was.

00:34:50.060 And I'll testify, but only to those things that are in the report, because that's all there is.

00:34:55.460 Do I have that right?

00:34:57.180 You do.

00:34:57.820 And I thought that was a – but, you know, I don't want to cast aspersions unnecessarily at Mueller.

00:35:04.660 I like to just try to keep this on the issues.

00:35:07.180 Yes.

00:35:07.600 But I thought that was very presumptuous and egomaniacal of him, I must say.

00:35:11.780 In what way?

00:35:12.300 If he were – well, can you imagine I'm in front of a court of appeals making a legal argument

00:35:18.000 and a judge has the temerity to ask me, Mr. McCarthy, what about this argument?

00:35:22.140 And I say, hey, look, I wrote a brief.

00:35:24.260 Go read it.

00:35:26.060 You know, be done with you. 0.51

00:35:28.800 You don't get to do that.

00:35:30.560 Witness doesn't get to decide what questions he can be asked.

00:35:34.560 Mueller doesn't get to decide, well, I've already given you my report.

00:35:38.000 I have nothing else to say.

00:35:39.980 You know, you get subpoenaed.

00:35:41.400 You come into the tribunal, whether it's Congress or a court,

00:35:44.160 and they'll decide what they're going to ask you and what you have a right to answer and not answer.

00:35:48.820 Now, he's trying to fend off testifying.

00:35:52.660 It's abundantly clear that he doesn't want to testify because if he did,

00:35:57.040 they would have been delighted to have him, right?

00:35:58.980 He would have testified already.

00:36:02.080 And I think Jerry Nadler is going to be savvy enough to realize that Mueller gave him as much yes

00:36:10.500 as we can ever get from –

00:36:13.820 Wait, we're losing –

00:36:15.300 We've just lost you.

00:36:17.300 You said Jerry Nadler is savvy enough to what?

00:36:21.340 To not press this issue of bringing Mueller in to testify.

00:36:28.760 Watch out of Mueller as he's ever going to get from that statement yesterday.

00:36:32.900 Right.

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00:36:56.280 So at the website weatherbell.com, Joe Bastardi is there.

00:37:03.940 And he is the chief meteorologist for Weather Bell.

00:37:06.920 He is the author of The Climate Chronicles.

00:37:09.020 He is a guy who was wildly, wildly accredited and wildly –

00:37:18.600 just one of the most quoted and one of the best weather guys and meteorologists

00:37:23.440 that we had in the country until climate change.

00:37:28.660 Then, of course, when he went, wait a minute, I actually do this for a living,

00:37:32.980 I am a scientist, and none of this works.

00:37:36.260 That's when he started to find himself in hot water.

00:37:40.480 He is still on the same bandwagon saying, you know, this Green New Deal, 0.82

00:37:45.960 this is going to kill America and just wreak havoc and hurt every American.

00:37:52.860 We have Joe joining us now.

00:37:54.300 Hi, Joe.

00:37:54.680 How are you?

00:37:56.980 Very well.

00:37:57.860 Thanks for having me.

00:37:58.820 I've always wanted to chit-chat with you.

00:38:00.780 We've done it a couple of times, but it's time a little bit longer.

00:38:04.440 You have looked into the Green New Deal. 0.59

00:38:11.500 How long did it take you to figure out this has nothing to do with climate?

00:38:16.720 Well, you know, I wrote the book on that.

00:38:19.240 For those of you – I always tell people, go look at the book.

00:38:21.860 And if you don't like it, then on a cold winter night, you can throw it in the fireplace

00:38:25.500 and it will help heat your house because you want to make sure that you get that.

00:38:29.540 And book burning can be popular today.

00:38:33.240 I'm sure mine is.

00:38:34.460 But in 2015, when the former EPA administrator, Gina McCarthy, was testifying before Congress,

00:38:43.960 she agreed with the idea that the proposals being made would only save 0.01 Celsius over 30 years.

00:38:54.860 But she said the real benefits are that we're going to show the planet what you're supposed to do.

00:39:00.820 Now, I'm sitting here going, well, look, America is the most prosperous country in the world,

00:39:05.280 greatest experiment in freedom.

00:39:07.200 If the rest of the planet hasn't followed us there, why are they going to sit there and stop following us now?

00:39:14.420 Right.

00:39:14.780 I mean, it doesn't make sense.

00:39:16.340 But let me put this in perspective for you because perspective – and see, the problem is that my father,

00:39:23.300 who's a meteorologist, graduated out of Texas A&M in 65.

00:39:26.580 I always go down to Texas.

00:39:27.640 But in any case, he taught me that the foundation you stand on today was built yesterday to reach for tomorrow.

00:39:36.780 And so when you look back at the weather and what the weather and climate has done,

00:39:41.420 not only in this country but the entire world, you sit there and it's almost as if it's a shooting fish in a barrel

00:39:47.440 when these people bring, oh, this is the worst ever.

00:39:49.480 You know, and that's one of the biggest things that I rely on looking at patterns in the past.

00:39:56.080 You know, I tell people I don't have any life except my good Lord above, my family, weather, and Penn State wrestling.

00:40:04.500 That's about all I have.

00:40:06.240 So most of the time it's with wrestling.

00:40:08.220 But listen to this.

00:40:09.360 The U.S. is currently only responsible for 15% of the man-made CO2, 15%.

00:40:17.500 Mankind is responsible for 0.01% of that. 0.74

00:40:22.880 So let's do the math.

00:40:24.100 It means that the U.S. contribution to the CO2 total of the atmosphere is 0.00015 of the atmosphere.

00:40:33.840 And what's the Green New Deal solution? 0.76

00:40:35.880 Destroy the American economy.

00:40:37.800 I mean, really, because we all know that energy is the lifeline of our economy.

00:40:44.060 Now, I'm not against any energy.

00:40:46.200 And as a matter of fact, my company, we develop products for wind and solar to make those forecasts more accurate.

00:40:53.680 Because, you know, we had a situation in Texas, Glenn, for instance, I guess it was 2011,

00:40:58.100 where you had a big freezing rainstorm in West Texas where all the wind turbines are.

00:41:03.080 And, you know, you needed heat for Dallas and Houston, and the wind turbines can't turn.

00:41:08.340 Well, if a power company knows that there's that threat four or five days away, they may acquire energy from another power company that's not having that kind of way.

00:41:18.100 So this is what I do.

00:41:19.620 I have nothing against alternative energy.

00:41:22.580 And this argument, to me, is not an argument like, for instance, I know and understand the other side of the argument.

00:41:30.300 And I keep telling people on my side of the argument, until such a time that the planet actually starts to cool,

00:41:37.660 they have every right in the world.

00:41:39.260 And you should be open-minded to what's going on.

00:41:41.300 But here's the big thing.

00:41:43.780 The total picture, if you look at the geological history of the Earth, it's the totality of the journey,

00:41:51.020 not six seconds out of an 80-year-old man's life, which is what the last 40 years has been.

00:41:57.300 You think about that stuff, and you look back, you think about the sun, the oceans, stochastic events,

00:42:02.960 the very design of the system, and that gets them mad because it means that I believe in God very, very strongly.

00:42:09.220 So what happens is you look at those things, and you say, well, wait a minute.

00:42:15.020 Why is this the first time in known history that man is wrecking the climate?

00:42:20.820 Now, let me just say one more thing because I'm open-minded.

00:42:24.280 I realize this is your show.

00:42:25.960 If I could have wrestled the way I talk, I would have been a national champ.

00:42:28.700 But listen, what happens is this.

00:42:31.080 What happens is this.

00:42:32.820 If they are correct, it's very seductive.

00:42:36.120 Because if you're the guy that found out that CO2 was a climate control knob, you're like Galileo, for goodness sakes.

00:42:44.340 So how do you, after 30 – see, I'm very sympathetic, sympathetic, whatever that word is.

00:42:50.400 It's got too many syllables for me.

00:42:52.300 But what happens is if you've been doing this for 30 years, you now own it.

00:42:58.020 It becomes your life.

00:42:59.220 And if it becomes your life, what happens if someone attacks your idea, they're attacking your life.

00:43:04.500 And, you know, there's also a lot of people on the other side that are reaching for the higher plane. 0.96

00:43:09.800 So when you look at that, I try to tell people I try to be the dumbest man in the room because the dumbest man in the room, if you're hungry, is going to find the food, right? 0.97

00:43:20.180 So you look everywhere. 0.97

00:43:21.740 If you're the smartest guy in the room and all you're doing is looking at one thing, you're not going to see the very things that challenge you that you need to perfect your arguments.

00:43:32.220 And so that's the way I am.

00:43:34.000 I realized a long time ago that the weather is an infinite, magic, majestic system.

00:43:41.280 And the more I learn about the field, the less I know about it in the totality of it.

00:43:47.640 There's a book out there called The Half-Life of Facts about how fast knowledge is expanding.

00:43:53.780 And when you look at those things, it gives you a perspective of humility and understanding it's sorry you're not controlling the whole shooting match.

00:44:03.000 So, Joe, I just read a story last week of a new wood is how they described it.

00:44:12.620 But it's a new kind of wood that if we clad our homes in this and it's man-made wood, it will save us 50% to 80% on our electricity bills because it is such a good insulator.

00:44:31.840 I mean, I just don't understand how if you really care about the environment, you should be A, vegan, B, for nuclear power plants, and you should be looking to the free market system because it's the free market system that is developing all of these things.

00:44:51.020 Everything the government has tried to do fails.

00:44:53.500 Solyndra?

00:44:54.060 Solyndra was pretty good.

00:44:55.080 Yeah, well, that's – but that's the thing that makes me – you know, in the book, most of, for instance, is a chapter in there called The Weaponization of the Weather.

00:45:05.540 That was put out a year ago saying this is what's going to happen.

00:45:09.300 Every single event is going to be like that because when you look at it, the scientific argument is the same argument as who's better, Texas or Texas A&M and football, right?

00:45:19.580 It lasts about 10 minutes, and then you move on.

00:45:24.140 But what happens is this – and this is why I said the book is a love story because what I have loved since I was three years old – I mean, I remember my parents tell me when I was three I used to sneak outside, lie on my back, and stare at the sun through the clouds.

00:45:40.360 I almost burned my retinas out.

00:45:41.880 That's how fascinated I was with the weather from being a little kid.

00:45:45.840 So when you see this dragged through the mud and you see everybody – where were you when I was 15 years old crying because we missed a snowstorm in Atlantic City, for instance?

00:45:57.540 You weren't anywhere to be found.

00:45:59.380 And one of the other things that gets me is that they come out after the fact.

00:46:04.640 Now, Glenn, you've been down there for a while.

00:46:06.540 You guys have been down there for a while.

00:46:07.700 Now, you know, after 2012, the Texas – there were a lot of people saying, oh, this is the beginning of a new Dust Bowl, the new perma-drought, right, because you had three straight years of – and it was just like 52 through 54, which I know about because growing up down at Texas A&M, I know about the Junction Boys and how bad the weather was in 52, 53, 54.

00:46:29.360 And like clockwork, four years later, it turned around then and it turned around now.

00:46:35.120 So I'm seeing stuff I guess it was USA Today had today.

00:46:38.240 Well, this is a sign of climate change, all the wet weather.

00:46:40.840 Well, what answer don't you own?

00:46:42.660 If it snows cheese in Dallas on New Year's Eve, that's climate change too.

00:46:47.360 So this is what's going on.

00:46:49.160 They wait until after the fact and say, see that?

00:46:52.100 And, you know, in the weather and forecasting and in the private sector, what WeatherBell does, we have to tell people the why before the what and hit the forecast because you want to know something?

00:47:04.420 National Weather Service is great.

00:47:06.220 There's 1,700 private companies out there by guys, real, real sharp people.

00:47:11.620 And if you're not right, you're not going to get paid.

00:47:14.300 So I use everything I have at my disposal, including understanding and knowing the past, to project into the future.

00:47:23.440 And that's not what I'm seeing on the other side.

00:47:25.840 I see a climatologist who say, well, this is a sign of this or this is a sign of that.

00:47:29.940 Well, why didn't you tell me this was going to happen back in February?

00:47:33.140 Correct.

00:47:33.260 Right?

00:47:33.740 You take what's going on now.

00:47:35.480 The reason we have so many tornadoes is because it's so cold across much of the country.

00:47:39.460 2008, 2011, and this year, we're the three coldest Mays in the northern plains and back into the southwest that we've recorded in the last 15 years.

00:47:49.820 Well, guess where the tornado spikes are?

00:47:52.260 Well, if you get a cold May, you're naturally getting warmer air coming out of the Gulf of Mexico.

00:47:56.920 You're going to get big fights going on.

00:47:58.700 And that's what you've got.

00:47:59.560 But that's not because it's just warm everywhere.

00:48:02.200 Last May was warm all over the United States.

00:48:05.180 And we had a record low amount of tornadoes in the month of May.

00:48:08.280 As a matter of fact, folks, there is ample reason to believe that the greening of the planet, which is occurring, and Dr. Will Happer talks about this all the time, that we're basically coming out of a CO2 drought, right?

00:48:22.220 Plants grow better at four times the amount of CO2 in the air.

00:48:25.760 What is the synergistic relationship between animal and plant?

00:48:30.000 Since animals exhale 100 times more CO2 than they inhale, and plants then take that and grow from it.

00:48:36.500 So, we're coming out of that.

00:48:38.900 So, the demonization of CO2, or, for instance, guys, what's the average temperature of the planet?

00:48:45.080 What's the perfect temperature of the planet?

00:48:47.860 I mean, you know, they say, hottest year ever.

00:48:49.980 Well, wait a minute.

00:48:50.840 It's only the mean temperature is 57.5, 58 degrees.

00:48:54.280 How is that hot, right?

00:48:55.660 What if it's 58.5?

00:48:57.200 What does that mean for Dallas?

00:48:58.280 Oh, it doesn't mean that Dallas is going to be 115 degrees every day, right?

00:49:03.860 So, it's back and forth and natural.

00:49:06.720 Joe Bastardi is his name, and he is the author of the new book, The Climate Chronicles.

00:49:11.840 Been out for a while.

00:49:12.680 Really good.

00:49:13.620 Climate Chronicles.

00:49:14.520 If you want the facts on the Green New Deal, on what climate change really is, what this is all about, the facts to be able to argue it, you'll get them from Joe in his new book, The Climate Chronicles.

00:49:30.460 Joe, thank you so much.

00:49:31.480 We'll talk to you again.

00:49:35.360 This is the best of a Glenn Beck program.

00:49:38.240 I want to bring Cliff Maloney in.

00:49:45.980 He is the president of Young Americans for Liberty.

00:49:49.220 And you know who Chris Cuomo is?

00:49:51.540 Do you even – I mean, because you're Young Americans for Liberty, let me explain television.

00:49:57.080 Television was this old thing that they used to have news in a place called CNN, and people would watch it.

00:50:04.500 Wow.

00:50:05.080 Yeah.

00:50:05.360 Any comments on Chris Cuomo before we move on to Venezuela and guns?

00:50:12.800 Yeah, I mean, I think you're exactly right.

00:50:14.480 He's kind of the face, if you will, of people who they want to lecture and act like they're playing both sides, and there's definitely more than one in every family.

00:50:23.580 But, I mean, I don't know anybody under the age of 40 that watches him because you're just being talked at.

00:50:29.120 You know, he's not talking with the viewers.

00:50:31.400 He's kind of saying, hey, look, this is the way it is.

00:50:34.100 And, you know, I'm holier than thou, and I know better than thou, and I don't think anybody's got time for that.

00:50:39.860 Yeah.

00:50:41.320 Let's talk a little bit about an article that you wrote, an opinion piece, Venezuela is the poster child for gun control gone wrong. 0.70

00:50:48.580 Amen.

00:50:49.340 Thank you for saying this.

00:50:50.880 You know, it's been funny, Glenn.

00:50:52.920 I've gotten, you know, I didn't expect it to be as controversial as a topic.

00:50:58.360 But, I mean, look, we all know gun control is the premise.

00:51:03.500 It is the root foundation of socialism.

00:51:05.900 I mean, if you are going to have control and if the government is going to dictate, you know, who does what, how they do it, when they can do it, you can't defend yourself.

00:51:16.360 And I'm surprised, you know, I put this piece together.

00:51:18.920 I mean, you look back in 2012 in Venezuela.

00:51:22.780 That was the big step.

00:51:23.980 They restricted the right to own firearms.

00:51:26.580 They, you know, we know this as conservatives and libertarians that that means taking away the ability to defend yourself. 0.95

00:51:34.140 And when it comes to a tyrannical government and what you're seeing right now in Venezuela, you know, and if you talk to normal people in Venezuela, I mean, some of the stories and some of the quotes and just what you're hearing from people is, damn, I wish we had the ability to defend ourselves.

00:51:49.600 And so it's, to me, it's a perfect example of how socialism is just totally fixated on disarming the citizenry.

00:51:58.500 And I think conservatives and libertarians should not sit back.

00:52:01.700 We always try to say, oh, you know, it's for hunting and you hear the – no, it's to defend ourselves against a tyrannical government.

00:52:08.940 Can I tell you something?

00:52:10.440 We were just talking about this yesterday.

00:52:12.280 I am so sick of people saying, oh, you're going to take on the Jets and the United States of America.

00:52:17.980 America, yeah, you know, cave dwellers have been doing it pretty effectively for the last 20 years. 1.00

00:52:26.940 Yeah, yeah, and we have more guns and we don't live in caves.

00:52:31.780 I think we need to be honest about that and say that's what that was for.

00:52:37.300 It wasn't for hunting.

00:52:38.680 It wasn't for sport.

00:52:40.180 Otherwise, bowling might be in the Constitution.

00:52:43.500 It is about protecting yourself against a government gone insane. 0.83

00:52:49.840 And you know what kills me, Glenn, is the hypocrisy of the left where they say, hey, the government should not have power because Trump is in charge. 0.94

00:52:59.080 Oh, I know. 0.87

00:52:59.920 But hold on.

00:53:00.760 But if our guy is in charge, we want to give total power to the government.

00:53:06.300 And I just – I can't handle this inconsistency for my friends on the left because it's like, look, you've got to stop giving your power as a citizen, your power to hold the government accountable.

00:53:18.900 You can't just go with the whims of whether your party is in charge or your party is not in charge.

00:53:23.280 No, no, no, no, but it's worse than that.

00:53:27.620 They're advocating for now.

00:53:30.800 Trump is an absolute dictator waiting to grab control.

00:53:36.100 Let's turn in all of our guns right now.

00:53:38.680 I mean, it's not like they're – it's not like under Trump they've said, oh, let's slow down on taking guns.

00:53:44.040 Let's wait until our guy gets in.

00:53:45.500 They take them today.

00:53:47.740 It's crazy.

00:53:49.420 I give them too much credit.

00:53:51.200 I give them too much credit.

00:53:53.280 Nuts.

00:53:54.180 It's just nuts.

00:53:55.400 So what has the controversy been about this?

00:53:57.720 Because I know if you point out, hey, there's a result of a socialist nation, even though they were all on the record saying this is socialist utopia in Venezuela, now they claim it's – that wasn't socialism.

00:54:13.180 It was never socialism.

00:54:14.400 Don't make me laugh.

00:54:15.520 That was socialism.

00:54:16.200 What is the pushback on the argument with you on gun control in Venezuela?

00:54:25.560 Yeah, so the first point is what you said when it comes to people say, oh, well, you really think this is to – the Second Amendment is really to defend against a tyrannical government?

00:54:36.400 And to that I say yes, and to the points that you made.

00:54:40.740 I mean – but people really don't see that.

00:54:43.640 And I'm not even talking just on the far left, but just – and pretty much any of my Democrat friends, it's – they really don't understand that government power is inherently bad.

00:54:55.180 When you centralize power and you need to have a check and balance, the second part is people are continuing to throw me the line, Cliff, this is not real socialism.

00:55:06.680 And exactly my comeback for the past week and a half is what you said, Glenn, and that is every single person in the country that is pushing for this Democrat socialism call, whatever you want, they're all on record praising Venezuela over the past five to six years.

00:55:24.340 All of them.

00:55:24.580 So there is no defense.

00:55:26.560 There is – this is socialism.

00:55:28.380 This is government power, and this is a perfect example to why I called the peace.

00:55:33.160 You know, it is.

00:55:33.740 It's a poster child of this so-called gun control going wrong, but the left doesn't want to own it.

00:55:39.640 And I'm not giving them that pass.

00:55:41.120 And once again, I continue to tell my libertarian and conservative friends, do not back down.

00:55:46.780 Do not give them one inch on this issue because this is a perfect example of the type of government control they want and what results when you put government control at such a high level over the ability of citizens to have guaranteed rights.

00:56:02.920 I'm talking to Cliff Maloney from Young Americans for Liberty.

00:56:06.400 Cliff, it's an interesting thing because I think there is a – the natural sort of inertia of human beings is bondage.

00:56:14.020 It's been bondage forever.

00:56:15.480 And, you know, liberty is hard for a lot of people.

00:56:18.780 And so a lot of times we slip back into this – since socialism has been around, there's always been times where it's flared up, even in the United States at some level, but all over the world.

00:56:29.100 It's just fascinating to me.

00:56:30.940 Can you explain at all the timing of while we're watching Venezuela essentially burn itself to the ground, now is the time where Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is on the rise and Bernie Sanders is competing for the presidency.

00:56:44.880 Why, of all times right now, we're seeing the worst failure of a government in – I mean, even worse than Zimbabwe, they're saying.

00:56:53.740 We're seeing that right now, and now is the time that the Americans are deciding to walk towards socialism.

00:56:59.500 Yeah, well, let me start off by saying this.

00:57:01.600 I think that young people get a bad rap.

00:57:04.200 You know, we work with college students, and I think that, you know, polls will show you like 43 percent of Americans support some sort of socialism.

00:57:12.500 And that should scare the hell out of us.

00:57:14.500 Don't get me wrong.

00:57:16.060 But I think what gives me some hope is when you look at young people, it's not always the AOCs and the Bernies that they're going towards. 0.94

00:57:25.160 It's – when you break it down issue by issue, they don't want the government taking 30 cents of every dollar they make.

00:57:30.980 They don't want the government reading their emails or spying on, you know, their cell phones.

00:57:34.800 They don't want the government, you know, spending these boatloads of money and running these trillion-dollar deficits.

00:57:38.960 But what's happening is the socialists, I will admit this, they are winning the messaging battle.

00:57:46.100 The socialists are winning the hearts and minds.

00:57:48.680 They understand that everything is 30-second clips on Twitter.

00:57:52.920 They're shortening things down.

00:57:55.040 I don't want to say they're dumbing it down, but I'm going to say it.

00:57:57.540 That's what they're doing.

00:57:58.540 They're dumbing down to pull on heartstrings. 0.95

00:58:00.980 And look, Democrats have done this for years.

00:58:03.960 The problem is the socialists are not hiding anymore.

00:58:08.180 They're owning the label.

00:58:10.000 And what this does is it gives an opportunity – and I'm going to be very careful how I say this – to free-market capitalists.

00:58:16.760 The problem I've had is the crony capitalists over the years, they are such a problem for us in the liberty camp because the crony capitalists create this environment where now the left can use the tactic that they use on us.

00:58:29.200 And say, well, that – now we have to say, well, that wasn't real capitalism.

00:58:33.180 And that's a problem.

00:58:35.600 That's why capitalism – that's why capitalism, that word, I don't think should be used anymore.

00:58:40.840 It's free markets because that says everything.

00:58:44.360 It's a market, and it is free.

00:58:47.940 Right.

00:58:48.520 And, yeah, so I would agree that I think we have to reown that messaging.

00:58:52.440 And we have to go out there and we have to say, look, socialism, you know, you can only paint so many pictures.

00:58:57.120 You can only point directly to Venezuela – they're all on the record for supporting it – and say these are false promises that don't work.

00:59:05.800 But I really want to hit on the fact that, yeah, I mean, the capitalists and kind of the crony capitalists, they've made this battle so much harder.

00:59:13.140 And they've opened the door for AOC and Bernie to prevent socialism.

00:59:17.040 But we should take this as an opportunity.

00:59:19.500 And I would agree.

00:59:20.360 Let's own the free market mantra and let's show folks why it's the way forward.

00:59:24.880 Thank you so much, Cliff.

00:59:25.600 Appreciate it.

00:59:26.200 We'll talk to you again.

00:59:27.240 Cliff Maloney, he is for Young Americans for Liberty.

00:59:31.900 He is the president of – it's a great organization, youngamericansforliberty.org, Y-A-Liberty.org.

00:59:41.540 Thanks, Cliff.

00:59:42.020 Talk to you again.

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 30, 2019

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Andy McCarthy, Joe Bastardi & Cliff Maloney ｜ 5⧸30⧸19

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