The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Andy Ngo & Heather Mewshaw ｜ 2⧸10⧸21

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Stu's back. We talk a little bit about the weird Super Bowl experience that he had, where he was just drunk and spreading coronavirus to all the CNN people.

00:00:12.860 You're welcome, Tampa.

00:00:13.580 So, we have a little bit on that. Also, some really disturbing news from the IMF, and it revolves a little bit around the new passport that everybody's talking about now, at least in the circles of the elite.

00:00:31.020 We've got to have some coronavirus vaccination passport. It goes deeper than that. How are you going to get a loan?

00:00:38.520 Then, IMF has solved this, and it's a little frightening. Also, what is happening to the California schools on ethnic-based training?

00:00:49.300 And the woman with Gorilla Glue in her hair. Hello, paging Dr. Darwin, Dr. Charles Darwin. All of that on today's podcast.

00:00:58.720 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:12.540 Hello, America.

00:01:13.740 I pray that my voice is heard for what I'm trying to say, and not what people want to hear on either side.

00:01:28.780 It is really important that you pay attention to the news, and I know a lot of people in my own life that are not paying attention to the news, and they've been really tired.

00:01:41.920 And I'm going to tell you a story a little later on about how Facebook has decided now they're not going to cover as much political stuff.

00:01:47.440 Oh, really? So, when we're talking about 52 executive orders, you don't want to talk about political stuff.

00:01:53.880 It's going to be harder to pay attention, and things are going to get more and more complex, and it's going to be harder to understand what's going on because it is so foreign to us.

00:02:05.080 Tonight, I am covering this activity now that is, I think, the new McCarthy era.

00:02:14.440 Axios did a story yesterday.

00:02:18.740 How to deprogram America's extremists.

00:02:23.880 The writer has called for keeping extremists out of the institutions where they could do the greatest damage, like the military, police departments, and legislatures, and providing help for those who have embraced dangerous ideologies.

00:02:37.820 You notice they don't put those in schools.

00:02:40.740 It's the police departments, the military, and legislature, but they don't even mention EDU.

00:02:44.980 And I think that's because they know no one with a dangerous ideology, i.e. conservative point of view, is in EDU or ever going to get through EDU.

00:02:59.380 Now, it is unclear as to who will determine what is dangerous ideology and what will constitute such a defining term, but that's where big tech comes in.

00:03:10.500 The article continues to say, online platforms are unwavering in their commitment to root out conspiracy theories and lies that undermine the faith in democracy.

00:03:25.840 Axios spoke to experts on this.

00:03:30.400 Uh-huh.

00:03:30.740 The article says, banning President Trump from Twitter was a major asset in the fight to slow or reverse radicalization.

00:03:40.560 The Axios article calls for a Marshall Plan, which would be implemented throughout Facebook and Twitter through censorship.

00:03:49.880 It claims the United States requires, quoting, an all-out national effort to dismantle all ideas that supposedly undermine faith in democracy.

00:04:02.800 It seems the writer of the newsletter doesn't understand the word democracy, or maybe they do, and they don't understand that we're a republic.

00:04:15.640 Democracy is not failing us.

00:04:18.160 The republic system is.

00:04:22.540 A republic, you can't have a democracy.

00:04:26.180 You can't, do you want to vote on the banking rules that came out yesterday?

00:04:29.860 Did you even know banking rules were coming out yesterday?

00:04:33.980 There's too much for the average citizen.

00:04:37.340 And that's why democracies always go to an authoritarian or a dictatorship, because they just, they overwhelm the people.

00:04:46.940 The people say, I don't know, he looks good, he can handle this.

00:04:51.120 And you have democracy, votes by the public, voting in dictatorships.

00:04:58.040 So there's a democracy until there's not.

00:05:01.540 That's why we have a republic.

00:05:03.080 But what is failing us now is our republic.

00:05:05.860 Do you believe on either side, Republicans or Democrats, that your elected congresspeople really, truly are reflecting what you and people in the country actually believe?

00:05:21.360 Are they carrying out the things that you believe are right and righteous for this country?

00:05:29.760 Term limits.

00:05:30.480 How about they can't all get rich on insider trading?

00:05:37.180 Do you, are they carrying these things out?

00:05:42.020 Do you think it's cool that we're just printing money and nobody's doing anything?

00:05:45.880 How about this?

00:05:46.500 Do you think it's cool that we haven't had a budget for this nation?

00:05:51.620 The largest, richest nation in the history of the world that we don't even have a budget and haven't had one since 2008.

00:06:02.380 The republic is failing us because we are not demanding that they actually do their work.

00:06:11.380 Big tech now is the arbiter of truth.

00:06:18.380 And I'm not sure what dangerous ideology is anymore as it is being defined by those in power.

00:06:27.920 The idea of a conservative and a conspiracy theorist.

00:06:33.160 That line is being blurred.

00:06:34.880 The New York Times just last year started to refer to me, it used to say, a known, a well-known conspiracy theorist or an alleged conspiracy theorist.

00:06:48.160 Now it's just Glenn Beck, comma, conspiracy theorist.

00:06:53.120 I told you yesterday that the IMF had an academic paper out and they are suggesting now that non-financial data should be used when financial institutions discern, determine customers credit worthiness for loans, various kinds.

00:07:13.840 By non-financial data, that means things like the type of browser and hardware that you use to access the internet, the history, I'm quoting, the history of online searches and purchases.

00:07:28.720 So what kind of computer and phone I have and the past purchases and what I'm reading, what websites I'm going to.

00:07:37.860 I want to just read, go over, we went over this yesterday, but I want to go over it because there's new news.

00:07:46.420 The most transformative information innovation is the increase of the new types of data coming from the digital footprint of customers' various online activities, mainly for credit worthiness analysis.

00:08:00.080 Credit scoring using so-called hard information, income, employment, time, assets, and debts is nothing new.

00:08:06.180 Typically, the more data is available, the more accurate is the assessment.

00:08:11.100 But this method has two problems.

00:08:13.120 First, hard information tends to be pro-cyclical.

00:08:16.220 It boosts credit expansions in good times, but exacerbates contraction during downturns.

00:08:21.760 The second most complex problem is a certain kinds of people like new entrepreneurs, innovators, many informal workers might not have enough hard data available,

00:08:32.480 as well as even a well-paid expatriate moving to the United States can be caught in the conundrum of not getting a credit card for lack of credit.

00:08:41.820 FinTech, financial tech, resolves the dilemma by tapping various non-financial data, the type of browser hardware used, yada, yada, yada.

00:08:49.700 This, of course, is a financial social credit system.

00:08:57.520 We have been warning about this for years.

00:09:02.760 This is one of the most dangerous parts of what is being called the Great Reset, and this is just the beginning.

00:09:09.940 In the same article from the IMF later, the same authors then say the central banks need to get more directly involved in economic activity

00:09:21.660 and that more money printing in downturns is likely going to be necessary.

00:09:27.980 The environment I'm quoting from the article, the environment for monetary policy will change to new monetary policy transmission channels will be need to be fully understood

00:09:38.300 as the new players make banks less relevant for the financial system.

00:09:43.480 Central banks may need to adjust their monetary policy implementation toolbox,

00:09:48.760 potentially allowing non-bank access to liquidity lines and incorporating them in their operations.

00:09:55.100 Okay, so that's what I told you about yesterday.

00:09:57.980 Do you remember when Cuomo told the banks in New York,

00:10:05.040 you can give loans to gun manufacturers, but if you do, there's just going to be more regulations on you guys,

00:10:12.200 and we're going to have to have more state inspectors because we just think there's something wrong with these gun manufacturers and gun stores.

00:10:19.920 We think, you know, that there's some violation of some law.

00:10:23.700 So, you know, we're not telling you not to loan.

00:10:26.460 We're just saying that it's going to make your, you know, state assessments every year.

00:10:34.900 It's going to be more and more difficult for you because we just don't trust the people who are dealing in guns.

00:10:39.680 Oh, okay.

00:10:42.600 So, what did the banks do?

00:10:44.820 Banks started saying, you know what, we're not going to, we're not going to, we can't carry your loan anymore.

00:10:50.020 Well, Donald Trump, through the, what's called the OCC, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency,

00:10:57.760 he wrote in, in that office, that banks cannot discriminate.

00:11:05.240 They cannot say, we're not going to make a business loan to guns. 0.91

00:11:11.040 You can't do it for ideological or political reasons.

00:11:15.640 Well, people have been watching this back and forth because the OCC changed hands.

00:11:24.440 And people have been saying, I don't think this is going to stand.

00:11:28.380 I think they're going to take this out.

00:11:30.600 Well, they made their decision yesterday.

00:11:32.940 Man, I, I read this review from the LA Times about Andy Ngo's new book and, uh, holy cow. 0.98

00:11:52.580 Andy, you are an extremist and a liar and you're making things up and you think that Antifa is bad. 0.99

00:12:00.720 Whew. I agree. I agree. 1.00

00:12:04.660 Um, you are, uh, everything except you're a liar. 0.99

00:12:07.520 Um, you think that Antifa is bad. 0.95

00:12:09.960 This report says, um, let me give, just give you a bit of the review.

00:12:14.960 I know you've read it.

00:12:15.700 There's an alternate universe out there in which we never have to ponder, let alone read unmasked provocateur.

00:12:21.660 Andy knows supremely dishonest book on the left-wing anti-fascist movement known as Antifa.

00:12:27.960 In that other world, far, far away, Marjorie Taylor Greene remains a nutty CrossFit enthusiast, uh, enthusiast from Georgia, not a member of Congress.

00:12:37.440 And we know nothing about our musings on Jewish space lasers, the execution of Democrats or false flag school closings. 0.50

00:12:45.140 If you find that universe, please send directions.

00:12:48.480 So they say that your book is part of that universe.

00:12:53.820 Andy, can you respond to some of the charges in this?

00:12:58.360 Sure. Well, first, uh, happy birthday, Glenn.

00:13:01.280 Thanks for having me on again.

00:13:02.900 You bet.

00:13:04.200 So, uh, I'm not surprised by, uh, the ad hominem attacks in this, uh, review that was published in the LA Times.

00:13:14.180 Uh, I wrote my book, as you recall, about the useful ideas and fellow travelers for Antifa in journalism.

00:13:22.080 And I would include this writer as part of that.

00:13:25.080 Um, I was, as a journalist myself, I was just surprised that, um, the really unprofessional inductives that he used against me, considering he works as the White House correspondent for the Yahoo Doos.

00:13:39.720 So, um, it was very, quite despicable, uh, doesn't really counter any of my arguments.

00:13:46.860 Instead, there's a line where he said that I wouldn't make, uh, Harold Goebbels proud.

00:13:52.320 Um, he says my book is, he compares my book to, uh, what the Nazis did and their propaganda.

00:14:00.000 Yep.

00:14:00.380 It's a very disgusting, nasty, um, smears, as you would, uh, expect to see on a blog, not by somebody who works as a White House correspondent for a news site.

00:14:12.620 So, let me give you a couple of things. 0.97

00:14:15.340 Um, Andy, no, is singularly focused on inflating Antifa's importance in his black-clad, white whale, his Mark-spouting Moby Dick.

00:14:27.640 Do you believe you're inflating their importance in what's going on?

00:14:32.760 No.

00:14:33.380 And this writer, Alexander Nazarian, he probably wouldn't think that either if he ended up in a hospital with a brain hemorrhage by Antifa.

00:14:41.260 Well, let me give you what he says about that.

00:14:44.300 No claimed that he was, uh, that a milkshake was thrown on him and it contained concrete, but far more likely it was a vegan blend heavy on cashew butter.

00:14:58.980 So, right.

00:15:00.280 Yeah.

00:15:00.920 So he doesn't say it was, he said it was more likely.

00:15:04.540 Can you tell me, Andy, do you know the difference between concrete and cashew butter?

00:15:08.240 I think he's trying to downplay my injuries.

00:15:11.880 Um, if he had doubt about my, uh, diagnosis, he could have reached out to me and I would have provided the documentation from the hospital so he could see.

00:15:20.960 And he could look at the CT scan as well.

00:15:22.700 Well, my brain was bleeding.

00:15:24.340 I don't think he, I think he knows that it wasn't.

00:15:27.040 He wrote, no, was punched and kicked as well.

00:15:29.840 He claims to have suffered a cerebral hemorrhage.

00:15:35.820 So, I mean, doesn't he know better than you?

00:15:38.720 Because what he goes on right after he says, what goes unmentioned is that no had a history of embedding with right wing groups.

00:15:47.180 I don't know what that has to do with your claim of a cerebral hemorrhage, but he says you had a history of embedding with right wing groups, including according to persuasive allegations he has denied.

00:15:58.740 Yeah, so he's picking up these smears that were printed in a local publication in Portland where a, one of the far left reporters there had interviewed somebody who was given a pseudonym.

00:16:22.980 And he was an Antifa person who claims to have embedded in Patriot Prayer and put out this absolutely false claim that I had a partnership with Patriot Prayer for mutual protection.

00:16:36.980 Now, my lawyer ended up writing a letter to the publication asking them to retract it because these were lies.

00:16:43.620 They chose not to, and they're protecting the identity of this anonymous person if he even exists.

00:16:49.600 And so I can't even confront my accuser, and then that smear gets laundered into bigger and bigger publications like a Wikipedia page, like the LA Times Review.

00:17:00.420 I mean, you know how it works.

00:17:01.540 You've been in the media spotlight for years and years.

00:17:05.260 So they do this type of stuff to try to, they slip these stuff in that has nothing to do with the book to try to discredit and smear in the most disgusting of ways.

00:17:16.020 He says, distortions and untruths hover like flies around every shred of confirmable fact.

00:17:24.980 The same section of a mask that ends with no statements on the United States portrays a mid-November stop the steal rally in Washington as peaceful and celebratory with no mention of the Proud Boys amassed there.

00:17:40.440 The counter-protesters, meanwhile, are a marauding gang.

00:17:44.880 The nation's top mainstream Antifa scholar, Mark Bray, wrote in the Washington Post that Antifa is not an organization.

00:17:53.740 Rather, it is a politics of revolutionary opposition to the far right.

00:17:59.100 So that line where he quotes from Mark Bray is particularly telling because Mark Bray, as I write in my book, is an Antifa extremist who works in academe.

00:18:14.000 His Antifa handbook, which is what he's most infamous for, actually raises funds for the Antifa International Defense Fund.

00:18:23.360 So I don't know how he can criticize me for being biased or whatever, and then he's quoting from somebody who's actually part of Antifa as a sort of legitimate historian perspective.

00:18:37.420 He continues, the right is always reminding us that facts don't care about your feelings, so let us set out some facts.

00:18:45.840 Andy Ngo writes that the numbers and influence of right-wing extremists are grossly exaggerated by biased media,

00:18:52.900 while Antifa poses just as much, if not more, of a threat to the future of American liberal democracy.

00:18:59.020 He frequently references last summer's anti-racist protest, conveniently alighting the point that 93% of those were peaceful, according to a study from Princeton.

00:19:12.100 A brief published by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, hardly a lefty outlet,

00:19:17.660 found that Antifa had a minor role in what violence did occur, most of which was driven by local autonomous actors,

00:19:25.680 and that organization's threat was relatively small.

00:19:30.540 January 6th, the minister, the coup de grace, to No's already teetering thesis,

00:19:35.720 it should not have taken this long, however, Trump's own Department of Homeland Security warned last October

00:19:40.620 that white supremacist extremists would remain the most persistent and lethal threat to the American homeland.

00:19:47.980 Yeah, so I hear that, I mean, that 93% were peaceful, it's another way of saying mostly peaceful.

00:19:56.860 What does it matter if it's 93% peaceful if the other 7% resulted in several dozen deaths,

00:20:03.780 the destruction of countless livelihoods, damages of billions to our economy?

00:20:10.620 And as for, I don't know why he's downplaying the role of the Antifa, as you read in my book,

00:20:17.680 as he said earlier in the review, in meticulous detail, I outline how in some major American cities,

00:20:23.940 like Portland and Seattle, Antifa, have the principal role in organizing the riots.

00:20:30.100 And so, I mean, this seems, again, it's going back to what many journalists and mainstream media do,

00:20:36.380 to always deflect from the extremism on the far left to go to the bogeyman that they have on the far right.

00:20:44.720 I don't argue that the far right doesn't exist.

00:20:47.400 I'm arguing that the Antifa and the far left are also a threat.

00:20:51.520 And here, as I lay out in an entire book, this is what they actually did.

00:20:56.520 This is how much money they raised.

00:20:58.320 These are the people they killed.

00:20:59.960 These are the injuries they caused.

00:21:01.460 What is the motivation here just to continue to protect?

00:21:11.480 I mean, I have no problem.

00:21:13.040 And he says in the article that you were forced to admit that Antifa wasn't in charge of the January 6th attack on the Capitol.

00:21:25.180 Andy, if I recall right, you weren't forced to admit.

00:21:29.220 You were the first to admit.

00:21:32.160 You were the first to say, I don't think this has anything to do with Antifa.

00:21:37.740 Weren't you?

00:21:38.740 That's the way I remember it that day.

00:21:40.660 That's right.

00:21:41.280 I came out on my own, and I was interviewed, and I've always maintained that I was never forced.

00:21:47.780 And I wasn't begrudgingly required to say what I said either.

00:21:51.880 But I think these people, they want to paint a character of who I am.

00:21:58.720 They think that I am this, as this review writer illustrates elsewhere, that I'm this really wicked fascist propagandist who's taking tactics from the Third Reich in my propaganda.

00:22:13.200 And they're really surprised if I manage to tell the truth.

00:22:18.280 I mean, it's a disgrace that the editor ran this piece in the way it is.

00:22:25.120 You know, I can accept criticisms for my writings, my analysis, et cetera.

00:22:29.020 But describing me in such disgusting terms to people who, to a political party that was involved for genocide and Holocaust, like, that's, it's too bad that that is a norm to be expected in our cases of legacy.

00:22:48.420 Andy, I appreciate it, and I wanted to give you the chance, because I think, personally, that kind of advertising you can't buy.

00:22:57.900 When somebody like that does such a hatchet job on you, it just makes me want to buy your book even more.

00:23:04.760 And the book is called Unmasked by Andy Ngo.

00:23:09.380 It is the book that pretends Antifa is the real enemy.

00:23:16.840 You can find that wherever you buy your books.

00:23:20.400 It came out, what, this week?

00:23:22.620 Yeah, or last week.

00:23:23.740 It came out last Tuesday and has been number one on the New York Times bestseller list.

00:23:28.560 Andy, thank you so much.

00:23:29.880 Appreciate it.

00:23:30.600 Thanks for having me on.

00:23:31.460 You bet.

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00:24:35.440 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:24:46.820 Okay.

00:24:47.300 All right.

00:24:50.600 We're going into a dangerous situation now.

00:24:53.320 We're going to talk to this woman, if you could even call her that, who has been at the

00:24:58.320 White House interpreting for Donald Trump.

00:25:00.660 And I want to just give you the news up front so you know the evil that we are dealing with.

00:25:06.020 Time Magazine reports that she translated for Hands of Liberty.

00:25:12.800 We need more spooky music.

00:25:14.200 That was, I mean, that really kind of, we're talking about a witch.

00:25:17.680 The Hands of Liberty.

00:25:19.080 She actually interpreted some of the videos.

00:25:22.480 And while the group frequently, according to Time Magazine, frequently solicits requests

00:25:26.200 from the public, the vast majority of videos it has chosen to interpret, with the notable

00:25:32.100 exception of the recent White House press conferences, are right-wing or pro-Trump in

00:25:39.420 their sentiment.

00:25:41.320 John Henner was interviewed by Time Magazine as a, thank you, see, it's much scarier now,

00:25:47.960 isn't it?

00:25:48.240 John Henner, an assistant professor at the University of North Carolina, Greensboro, who

00:25:54.000 studies ASL and is deaf himself, said in an email, I was honestly surprised.

00:26:01.900 For me, it would be problematic for someone who has aligned herself with alt-right discourses

00:26:08.120 to be the public face of the White House for the deaf communities and people who are curious

00:26:14.020 about ASL.

00:26:16.160 I don't know about you, Stu, but I've come out as ASL curious myself, and I will not hear

00:26:23.800 any of the hate speech because I am ASL curious.

00:26:28.860 Sure.

00:26:30.180 So, be careful.

00:26:32.400 Be careful.

00:26:32.960 We're going to have somebody on who has a different point of view than half the country, but we're

00:26:37.920 going to do it anyway.

00:26:38.740 We're going into the darkness to see what we can get out of Heather Mewshaw.

00:26:44.220 Professional Sign Language Interpreter and in League with the Devil.

00:26:51.040 Hello, Heather.

00:26:51.800 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:26:54.100 Hi, Glenn Beck.

00:26:54.960 Thanks for having me.

00:26:55.860 I think we're so evil that we would interpret a video about Operation Underground Railroad with

00:27:01.060 Tim Ballard.

00:27:02.140 Oh, my gosh.

00:27:02.860 He actually mentioned you.

00:27:04.340 Oh, my gosh.

00:27:05.660 Oh, my gosh.

00:27:06.460 So, you did that interpretation.

00:27:08.880 Why would that organization associate themselves with somebody who worked in the Trump White

00:27:15.300 House?

00:27:16.840 I don't know.

00:27:17.880 Human trafficking obviously isn't an issue, right? 0.97

00:27:20.360 Yeah.

00:27:20.680 So, Heather, tell me about yourself and, you know, are you an extremist that wanted to storm 0.98

00:27:30.960 and kill all the congressmen yourself? 0.99

00:27:34.580 Absolutely not. 0.98

00:27:36.260 I'm just a regular American, just like anyone else.

00:27:39.220 I'm a mom.

00:27:39.880 I have four kids.

00:27:40.700 I work.

00:27:43.040 My husband has a job.

00:27:44.540 We're just trying to live the American dream, as everybody says.

00:27:48.420 And I've been an interpreter for 21 years, certified with the Registry of Interpreters

00:27:52.860 for the Deaf, which is a credentialing system that kind of gives you a seal of approval so

00:27:57.640 people know what they're getting when they hire an interpreter.

00:28:00.240 We're all required to meet a minimum standard.

00:28:03.300 And I've worked in the D.C. area my whole career.

00:28:05.760 And I've worked in a variety of settings.

00:28:08.060 I mean, you name it, I've been there.

00:28:10.200 So, I have a lot of experience.

00:28:12.340 And I'm trained to be neutral.

00:28:14.720 So, all this talk about perceptions of individuals and so forth.

00:28:19.560 I mean, at the end of the day, I worked at the White House for six briefings.

00:28:23.820 And I've proven myself to be a professional in every aspect of the word.

00:28:29.060 Notice how good she is at her witchcraft. 0.88

00:28:31.060 She sounds reasonable, but don't let that fool you.

00:28:33.760 Um, so, uh, uh, Heather, um, tell me what happened and, uh, you know, how you found out

00:28:43.320 that Time Magazine had done this, this expose on you.

00:28:48.280 Well, um, obviously I, I went and did my job.

00:28:52.260 I, the White House called me and I, I came in and interpreted the briefing.

00:28:56.560 And I, in my mind, I'm thinking the White House is a neutral entity.

00:29:00.900 They're there to convey information.

00:29:02.760 The press is there to ask questions.

00:29:04.300 And at the end of the day, the deaf community wanted this access.

00:29:07.520 They fought for it and they got it.

00:29:09.700 And since I had been there five times previously, I already knew where to go, what to do, yada,

00:29:15.880 yada, yada.

00:29:16.440 So, it was just like, here we go.

00:29:19.580 And was everybody kind to you?

00:29:21.100 And I mean, when, when Jen Psaki, or Psaki, uh, I only say the P, do you translate, when

00:29:27.860 you say her name, do you translate a silent P or, that's a different story.

00:29:31.720 Um, she, um, when she said, and we're now going to carry, uh, and this is our translator

00:29:37.560 for today, everything was fine with all of you guys.

00:29:40.920 I mean, every, you were, you were fine.

00:29:42.400 Nobody said anything beforehand or anything, right?

00:29:44.840 Or did they?

00:29:45.560 Yeah.

00:29:46.380 Everything was great.

00:29:47.280 I mean, I, the, the, um, staff was like, we can't wait to see you.

00:29:50.960 We're going to be watching you.

00:29:51.980 We're going to be rooting for you.

00:29:53.060 I mean, it was a very positive, it is a very positive environment.

00:29:56.120 Um, so I never got any negative flack and it wasn't until after I got home and I started

00:30:03.100 looking at social media and a prominent deaf person in our community named Niall DeMarco,

00:30:08.680 who's like a celebrity, he was on Dancing with the Stars and so forth.

00:30:12.440 And he's a huge advocate about, um, language deprivation in the deaf community.

00:30:16.720 Like he doesn't want people to go without language, but yet he, um, retweeted this Mr.

00:30:22.120 Henner's tweet.

00:30:23.060 Um, and it just went crazy and a lot of people wanted to cancel me.

00:30:28.120 And what was Mr.

00:30:28.920 Henner's tweet?

00:30:31.480 He, he made a tweet.

00:30:32.920 It was like a, it was like a thread and it was like gather around folks.

00:30:36.780 Here's this interpreter and here she is wearing a Trump hat and a Trump Pence t-shirt and she's

00:30:42.660 interpreting and it, and he never said my name, but it caused people.

00:30:46.600 It caused people to dox me.

00:30:47.640 It caused people to start sending me hate emails because they found my professional

00:30:51.360 website and my email address was on there.

00:30:54.320 And, uh, I ended up having to tell my contact at the white house that, you know what?

00:30:59.660 I probably shouldn't come back right now.

00:31:02.220 Um, because of the mob.

00:31:04.300 Uh, so, so they didn't, they didn't say you're out, uh, you called and said, I can't do it.

00:31:13.700 Right.

00:31:14.400 Okay.

00:31:15.120 Well, that's good news.

00:31:17.000 Do you think you're going to be invited back?

00:31:19.000 I think that if I did, if they did invite me back, that it would have, there would have

00:31:25.860 to be a discussion and they, they might have to come out with some sort of statement or

00:31:30.020 something because right now I think it would be too controversial and it would just take

00:31:34.480 away from the intent of why the interpreter is even there in the first place.

00:31:38.200 So, but isn't that one of the things that a white house should do is to say, look, she,

00:31:47.840 she, she's doing her job.

00:31:50.320 She's never interpreted it incorrectly.

00:31:52.920 And this is information that everybody should have.

00:31:56.180 Do you think they should stand by you or they should just move on?

00:32:00.960 It's a good question.

00:32:02.180 I, I, I don't know.

00:32:03.280 I, I, I feel like they have, um, they have a lot of bigger things on their plate.

00:32:08.180 Right now, then to deal with this.

00:32:10.060 So I really don't know the answer to that question.

00:32:14.620 Holy cow. 0.89

00:32:15.340 Are you kind?

00:32:16.200 Um, uh, but that's the way witches are. 1.00

00:32:20.820 That's the way witches will do. 1.00

00:32:22.420 You notice she didn't say one of her children's name was Damien.

00:32:26.600 So, uh, and she'd probably deny it if I asked her, if that was her son's name.

00:32:32.520 Um, so tell me one, one last thing.

00:32:35.560 The idea of, of you being an extremist because you translated these things and you voted for

00:32:44.840 Trump, uh, time magazine says that, uh, you know, it is that you are a Trump supporter

00:32:52.040 and that you have done interpretation for, or interpreting for, uh, right wing political things,

00:33:01.200 uh, which none of those, none of those are illegal or immoral.

00:33:06.740 Um, you say that this is all, this is all started with you because you have deaf parents

00:33:14.280 and this, it means more than politics to you.

00:33:19.460 Right.

00:33:20.000 Yeah.

00:33:20.320 Yeah.

00:33:20.520 I mean, it's, it's hard to have discussions with my parents when they don't have the same

00:33:25.120 access to information, uh, that I do.

00:33:28.240 So whether it's news clips on, on the internet or radio show like yours or whatever, um, it's

00:33:34.820 like, I'm constantly having to explain things or whatnot.

00:33:37.340 And then one of my colleagues who's deaf was like, you know what, I just want to get access

00:33:41.460 to the other side of the story.

00:33:43.320 Like I get a lot of the, the left liberal side, but I don't hear a lot about the conservative

00:33:48.820 side.

00:33:49.800 And, uh, the big, the biggest push that he said was like, we just need somebody to just

00:33:54.100 give us the access, someone to help us get the access.

00:33:57.300 And over the summer with COVID shutdowns and everything, a lot of people were isolated,

00:34:02.520 especially the deaf community when they're used to being together and communicating, they

00:34:06.580 were home.

00:34:07.260 And so with the riots and the protests, there were a lot of TikToks and live videos that

00:34:12.380 were being posted on social media and they're not accessible.

00:34:15.360 And so he asked me to help out and I thought, well, this is a noble cause.

00:34:19.520 I mean, I'm a conservative.

00:34:21.140 I could help out.

00:34:22.300 I wouldn't, I wouldn't be skewing the message or anything.

00:34:25.140 So he started this group, my colleague, Hands of Liberty, and we just took requests from

00:34:31.400 the deaf community and they request things.

00:34:33.940 They like Terrence Williams.

00:34:35.100 They requested Tim Ballard's videos.

00:34:37.160 They would request a Trump rally videos.

00:34:40.200 I mean, you name it, they would request that.

00:34:42.560 So you guys didn't, you guys didn't put out a list.

00:34:45.600 You just requested what the, the community wanted.

00:34:49.800 Right, right.

00:34:50.780 And we would accommodate them.

00:34:52.060 So we did do that big, um, frontline doctors video with, with Stella Emanuel and Dr. Simone

00:34:58.200 Gold at the, um, at the, um, Supreme court that happened last summer.

00:35:03.940 Yeah.

00:35:04.120 Okay.

00:35:04.520 And that was a huge video, right?

00:35:06.620 Like it went viral.

00:35:07.560 Like YouTube kept taking it down.

00:35:09.700 Facebook kept taking it down.

00:35:10.900 They kept putting it back up and the deaf people didn't have access to that because of

00:35:15.300 course the networks weren't going to show it.

00:35:16.920 So there wasn't closed captioning access like you would have on TV.

00:35:20.700 So we were like, okay, we'll interpret it.

00:35:22.940 And we started getting strikes on our pages and our YouTube channel got taken down eventually

00:35:28.000 because we were interpreting misinformation per se, which is what this time article talked

00:35:34.280 about too.

00:35:34.860 And it's like, well, you know what?

00:35:36.000 Like it's on the internet.

00:35:36.860 So if a person like you and I can just click a button and listen to it real quick and make

00:35:41.520 our own assumption, why can't a deaf person do the same thing?

00:35:44.500 So it's really, it's, I mean, it goes again to who has a right to tell you what to watch

00:35:51.120 and not watch except, you know, hearing people, um, they are enabled to listen to anything

00:36:00.400 and they can hear it, but deaf people, they're watching a video and unless they can read lips 0.95

00:36:05.480 and unless it's, it's really clear, they, they can't get the information.

00:36:09.820 So they can't say that's ridiculous, or I believe in that they can't make a judgment.

00:36:14.740 They have to trust other people. 0.55

00:36:16.640 Do I have that right?

00:36:18.300 Right, right.

00:36:19.080 And then they have to read the comments or, and kind of see what people say.

00:36:22.840 And you know how comments are, they just evolve into craziness.

00:36:25.880 So there's no real information there.

00:36:28.400 And then all they go off is the views.

00:36:30.520 So a lot of deaf people say, well, this got like 700,000 views, but I can't access it,

00:36:36.060 but it's popular or their cousin sends them a video on messenger.

00:36:39.360 And they're like, well, I don't know what they said.

00:36:41.080 Um, so this allows them to have that dialogue with their friends, with their family, just

00:36:45.860 like we do.

00:36:46.480 Like we start, we're like, look at this crazy video.

00:36:49.400 Um, and it's, it's just one way to get them accessibility and it's protected under the

00:36:55.760 American with Disabilities Act.

00:36:56.980 If they request it, they're supposed to have it.

00:36:59.940 And then because I'm working as an advocate for them, I'm also protected.

00:37:04.880 So, um, it's just unfortunate that people get triggered by the hat because, um, when I

00:37:11.780 wore it, I wore it for a specific video, which is when he was dancing, it was a compilation

00:37:16.800 of him dancing to the YMCA.

00:37:18.760 And a lot of deaf people didn't even know that he did that because the news channels didn't

00:37:22.820 show that and they don't hear music, so they don't really associate it.

00:37:26.540 They just might've seen random clips of him dancing and they're like, oh, okay.

00:37:30.180 But I think after interpreting the requested video, they were like, oh, wow.

00:37:34.520 Like this was a phenomenon.

00:37:35.860 Like it took off.

00:37:37.120 And now I understand why there were TikToks of people mimicking him.

00:37:40.560 So it's just, they're, they just want to be part of the culture.

00:37:43.140 Um, and a lot of it is online now.

00:37:46.820 So, wow, that's evil.

00:37:48.860 Um, uh, Heather, we'd like to hire you for the day. 0.91

00:37:53.060 We'd like you to translate the radio show.

00:37:54.880 Would you do that?

00:37:55.740 Sure.

00:37:56.220 Yeah.

00:37:56.460 Okay.

00:37:56.760 So, um, I'll, I'll put you, uh, I'll, I'll put you in touch with our producer and then,

00:38:01.800 uh, maybe you can translate, uh, tomorrow and you can do it from home because we are COVID

00:38:06.440 compliant here.

00:38:08.080 Uh, right.

00:38:08.940 And so, uh, we'll just put you in a little box and you can translate tomorrow.

00:38:13.140 Which I'm going to come up with a whole bunch of really difficult words, uh, tomorrow.

00:38:18.140 I, I think I can handle it.

00:38:20.200 I've worked for rocket engineers, so I think I can handle it.

00:38:23.400 Yeah.

00:38:23.540 But you haven't heard me mispronounce those difficult words.

00:38:26.860 So we're in for a whole new experience.

00:38:30.300 Heather, thank you so much.

00:38:31.300 And we'll, uh, we'll talk to you probably tomorrow.

00:38:33.320 Thank you.

00:38:34.460 Okay.

00:38:34.880 Thank you.

00:38:35.540 God bless.

00:38:35.940 Thank you so much.

00:38:39.220 I had to say things like the being nice and stuff.

00:38:42.060 Cause I was afraid she would put a hex on me. 0.52

00:38:44.400 Did you hear what she was saying about people have a right to hear things?

00:38:48.420 Oh my gosh.

00:38:49.120 That sounds bad.

00:38:50.020 Gosh.

00:38:50.580 Plus you never know when she's putting a hex on you cause you don't know sign language.

00:38:53.860 Exactly right.

00:38:55.620 Exactly right.

00:38:56.380 Na, na, na, na.

The Glenn Beck Program - February 10, 2021

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