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00:00:30.000 What would you call today's show?

00:00:31.420 I mean, it kind of turned into a really weird...

00:00:34.980 Yes, that's a great term for it.

00:00:37.020 It was a really weird experience, a rollercoaster ride, but a fun one most of the time.

00:00:42.120 What were we talking about in hour number one of the podcast?

00:00:45.460 Oh, octopus murder, which kind of takes you into this place because tomorrow's podcast is about the octopus murders.

00:00:52.220 And I have the actual journalist who I think is nuts for doing it and the filmmaker.

00:01:00.000 And we were talking about this.

00:01:01.200 And if you don't know what the octopus murders is, it's on Netflix.

00:01:04.240 Watch it and then watch tomorrow's podcast that comes out.

00:01:08.680 It is...

00:01:09.680 I don't know what to think.

00:01:11.600 I really don't know what to believe, what not to believe.

00:01:15.060 And it's this crazy 50-year-old, 40-year-old story that's still going on today.

00:01:20.500 And people have been killed because of it.

00:01:23.740 And we can fill your entire Netflix queue for three months with just that one hour of programming today.

00:01:29.220 Yeah, that first hour.

00:01:29.320 Because there's lots of great shows to mention.

00:01:30.680 Yeah, and then the second hour, we had a guy on.

00:01:33.460 His name is Ashton Forbes.

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00:01:37.200 Stu thinks this is absolutely nuts.

00:01:39.580 I think it's most likely not true.

00:01:42.120 But I don't know.

00:01:45.580 I don't know.

00:01:46.500 I mean, every time you say, that would never happen, they're locking America down.

00:01:51.060 You know what I mean?

00:01:52.620 This is the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Flight 370.

00:01:57.600 Do we have a weapon or a device that can now make wormholes?

00:02:03.680 I know this sounds nuts, but wait until you listen to it, and especially if you watch the podcast.

00:02:11.000 And then hour three, we have Cliff Sims on, who was at the White House.

00:02:17.340 He tells us crazy stories about the CIA and everything else.

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00:03:56.100 Did you see The Octopus Murders?

00:03:57.940 I did not.

00:03:59.140 Do you know anything about them?

00:04:00.220 Yes, I do.

00:04:01.100 What do you know?

00:04:01.680 You told me I should watch the series.

00:04:03.600 And it is officially on my list of series to watch.

00:04:06.820 Oh, I've got one of those, too.

00:04:08.460 Yeah.

00:04:08.740 I've got a list.

00:04:09.520 It's long.

00:04:10.100 Yeah, my list is like, when did I want to watch that?

00:04:13.140 Right.

00:04:13.500 Some of them I don't even remember what they were.

00:04:15.280 I don't either.

00:04:16.300 Some of them ended in like 2009.

00:04:18.360 Yeah, I know.

00:04:19.160 And I haven't watched them yet.

00:04:20.600 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:20.960 But it is on the list.

00:04:21.880 It is on the list.

00:04:22.660 It sounds really interesting.

00:04:23.500 You should move it up on the list.

00:04:24.700 It is one of these things that you really don't have any idea whether what is being investigated is real or not.

00:04:39.340 And the more they go, the more you're like, this all sounds so plausible.

00:04:44.380 This is, I mean, and it's deep, deep, deep corruption in our government.

00:04:51.380 And it's about a guy who, I don't even know, 20 years ago was investigating, back in the 1980s, so even farther than that.

00:05:00.380 He was investigating, oh, what was it called?

00:05:06.120 It was during the Reagan administration, and there was this new software that was being developed, and the Justice Department got involved.

00:05:15.720 And it was this software that could help, what is it called?

00:05:20.760 Promise, yeah, the Promise software.

00:05:22.840 And I remember these stories at the time.

00:05:25.320 And it was this software that investigators could put things into the computer and say, oh, we're working on this case, and this is what happened in court, and it would correlate everything.

00:05:37.100 So if you're working on a case at the FBI, you could type in, you know, the people involved and everything else, and it would pull all of the information in to one source, and you'd be going, oh, well, Fred's working on the same kind of thing, too.

00:05:52.840 And you could coordinate throughout the whole country.

00:05:55.720 Seems pretty basic.

00:05:56.500 Right.

00:05:57.060 Important.

00:05:57.700 Right.

00:05:57.960 And so the company that was creating this, it was just gangbusters, okay?

00:06:04.800 And then the government got involved and said, we want you to build this for the government.

00:06:12.980 And the government got involved and promised this company all kinds of money and everything else.

00:06:19.060 They developed it, and then the government didn't pay the bill and said, yeah, we're not going to, we're not going to, we're not going to, we're not going to use this.

00:06:29.100 And that put the company out of business.

00:06:30.960 And they were like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, we just did all this stuff for you.

00:06:34.040 Yeah, we're not going to use it.

00:06:35.540 Put them out of business after somebody approached them and said, I think you want to sell your business to me.

00:06:42.880 And they were like, no, we don't.

00:06:45.940 I think you're not hearing me.

00:06:47.600 You want, you want to sell your business to me.

00:06:51.720 Understand?

00:06:52.980 And they said, nope.

00:06:54.800 Next thing they know, government doesn't, and they're wiped out.

00:06:58.780 About a year later, the software shows up in Canada, and it's being used by Canada and their, I believe it was their spy agencies, okay, under a different name.

00:07:10.760 What happened, they think, is that the United States used this, brought this into Intel and everything else, then gave it to our allies, and then started selling it to our enemies as well, but not from us, okay?

00:07:27.380 It was no longer the promise system.

00:07:30.460 It's the same system, but not the, not named promise.

00:07:33.600 Not named the promise, yeah.

00:07:34.340 And what they had in it was a back door.

00:07:37.260 So now the agencies on both our enemy list and our friends, we were spying on them.

00:07:44.220 And we could know exactly what they were working on, who they were tying, I mean, all of this stuff.

00:07:51.380 It's pretty smart.

00:07:52.400 Pretty smart.

00:07:53.160 Yeah.

00:07:53.400 Pretty smart.

00:07:54.320 Except that's when the murders started.

00:07:57.620 Oh, okay.

00:07:58.260 That was an asterisk with the U.S. government.

00:08:00.280 And it just starts to spiral out of control, and this guy, he's a journalist, and he starts seeing this, and he's starting to put it together.

00:08:09.100 And it is an octopus.

00:08:11.520 It is one of those things that you're like, wait, wait, wait.

00:08:15.260 And as he started to learn what was going on, every bit of it sounds like, yes, that's what our government would do.

00:08:23.180 It goes into the arms for, you know, the hostages for arms, what was it, the Iran-Contra.

00:08:33.640 It goes into that, it ties that kind of in, shows that the arms were made or packaged by the U.S. government, but they went to an Indian reservation,

00:08:44.380 where the native territory outside of the United States, but right inside the United States, showed how they built this casino, laundered all kinds of money, killing people there.

00:08:59.860 I mean, it's crazy.

00:09:02.200 So this guy, he goes, he says he has one more piece, and he's told all along.

00:09:08.460 He gets phone calls, and he's like, I don't think you want to ask these questions.

00:09:13.600 You're not going to be, it's not going to be good.

00:09:15.380 Don't ask, don't keep asking questions.

00:09:17.480 So he's got one more question, and that's the one that everybody's like, I'm telling you, don't ask that question.

00:09:24.380 He gets a guy that says, I'll tell you this piece of information and meet me here in this small town on this day, and we'll talk.

00:09:36.820 Look, he goes, he tells his brother before, if something happens to me, it's not an accident, okay?

00:09:44.020 He goes, he commits suicide in his hotel room.

00:09:48.480 He cuts his wrists so deeply that he cuts the tendons, okay?

00:09:55.020 Now, that would explain one cut on one wrist, but if you do that on one wrist, how do you then use your hand to do it on the other wrist, okay?

00:10:08.220 He cut himself like 12 times deeply, so deeply, the hands didn't, okay?

00:10:13.760 Ah, right.

00:10:15.100 And then there's like bloody prints all over the walls and stuff, and you're like, this doesn't seem like a suicide, okay?

00:10:24.140 Everybody walked in and said, whoa, something bad happened here.

00:10:28.780 But then, all of a sudden, police walk in.

00:10:33.080 Oh, yeah, we're investigating.

00:10:34.520 This looks like it could be a murder.

00:10:36.100 Nope, definitely not a murder.

00:10:37.540 This is suicide.

00:10:38.240 We don't even need to look into it.

00:10:39.420 So, the journalist dies.

00:10:43.440 Years later, another journalist, he reads about this guy, and he's like, I wonder what that was all about, okay?

00:10:52.560 And he picks the thing up, and he's now talking to the, this is where the documentary picks up.

00:10:59.000 He's now talking to the same people who are like, you don't want to ask those questions, okay?

00:11:04.820 He ties this whole thing together.

00:11:08.960 All of the same people, some of the really spooky people that were clearly with the government are dead now, or at least thought to be dead.

00:11:19.600 I asked them in the interview today that you can find on Blaze TV, do you believe they're dead?

00:11:28.180 Like, nope.

00:11:30.100 And there were several things that I asked them, and they're like, no, we're not going to, we're not going to go there.

00:11:35.800 We're not going to talk about that.

00:11:37.660 Do you know something?

00:11:39.460 Not saying I do, not saying I don't.

00:11:41.200 We're not talking about that.

00:11:43.520 It's fascinating.

00:11:45.820 And how deep does this thing go?

00:11:49.980 You're left watching this documentary, honestly not knowing what to believe.

00:11:57.560 You're watching and you're like, I think this is real, but everybody, and because they talk about it, conspiracy theories, when there's a conspiracy, the government will set up people that will tell you half-truths, and the other half is nonsense.

00:12:18.160 So you blur the lines on everything, so you're not sure what's true and what's not.

00:12:25.240 It's a view into how our government really works, like you've never seen before.

00:12:31.000 And it's on Netflix.

00:12:32.340 It's on Netflix, called The Octopus Murders.

00:12:34.280 Looks like four parts.

00:12:35.560 Yeah.

00:12:36.000 Four-part documentary.

00:12:36.840 Yeah.

00:12:37.280 And let me see, do we have time?

00:12:39.680 Yeah.

00:12:43.580 Where are the cuts?

00:12:45.640 I don't have the cuts.

00:12:46.400 I don't have the cuts.

00:12:48.160 Which ones are the cuts of this?

00:12:51.540 All right.

00:12:51.720 You want to take a quick break?

00:12:52.720 Okay.

00:12:53.080 No, no, no.

00:12:53.500 Here it is.

00:12:54.200 The Scariest Person You Met.

00:12:55.620 Cut seven.

00:12:56.300 Listen to this.

00:12:56.860 Now, this is the filmmaker, or the journalist, and the filmmaker.

00:13:01.380 They've been best friends since they were kids.

00:13:03.580 The filmmaker came to the journalist at one point and said, dude, intervention.

00:13:09.420 You got to stop.

00:13:10.640 You got to stop.

00:13:12.400 And he said, at one point, I realized my friend wasn't going to stop, and I was concerned about

00:13:16.880 him.

00:13:17.420 And so I got into it with him and just said, okay, let me hear it all.

00:13:21.520 He said, and I was like, I think you might be right.

00:13:26.140 And so he got into it with him, both knowing they could die.

00:13:31.720 Listen to this.

00:13:32.960 You guys talked to some scary people.

00:13:36.280 This guy chilled me to the bone.

00:13:38.920 Yeah.

00:13:39.300 He seemed like, he just seemed very confident that things happen and nobody's going to question

00:13:51.100 me, and okay, maybe I've killed people, maybe I, I mean, he just, he had that air about him

00:13:58.920 of stone-cold killer in a business suit.

00:14:04.080 Is that what you guys, I keep, I'm like, which door is he going to come out of?

00:14:08.220 Yeah.

00:14:09.440 Because he may or may not still be alive.

00:14:11.920 Do you believe he is?

00:14:13.200 I think, I think he's, I think he might still be alive.

00:14:17.320 There's a chance.

00:14:18.100 I think.

00:14:18.940 He would be 80, right?

00:14:20.780 Yeah, he'd be 80.

00:14:22.000 So, if he's still spooky at 80, if he's alive, he's still spooky.

00:14:25.680 That guy, was he the, who's the scariest person that you encountered?

00:14:31.020 Well, okay.

00:14:32.440 Bob allegedly died in 2009.

00:14:36.120 Yeah.

00:14:36.820 So, we didn't meet him, but we have a lot of documents and things like that.

00:14:40.840 We met him.

00:14:41.720 We met him.

00:14:42.700 I saw enough.

00:14:43.520 We talked to a lot of people who did know him, and Sherry, when, you know, who we interviewed,

00:14:47.380 has an amazing story about going to his apartment, which I think is, is, you know.

00:14:52.140 Tell the story.

00:14:53.100 Yeah.

00:14:53.240 So, Sherry Seymour investigated mainly the West, the West Coast portion of, of the octopus,

00:15:00.640 or this, this story, this Danny story.

00:15:03.460 Um, and she met with, she started working on it about three months after Danny died, and

00:15:09.660 she was calling all of his sources, much like Christian did.

00:15:12.940 Um, but this is in 1991 and 1992.

00:15:15.420 And Robert Booth Nichols is one of, is a guy who Danny talked to extensively on the phone

00:15:20.640 and met in person and was, you know, I would say a suspect in Danny's death.

00:15:27.500 Um, and at least for us.

00:15:30.840 Um, and so she went over to his apartment to ask him about these things.

00:15:35.340 And amazingly, he agreed, and he was there with his wife.

00:15:40.200 And, uh, at the end of that meeting, he shows her this tape, puts on this tape, which, um,

00:15:47.760 I think they were talking about sort of the manipulability of reality and what, and perception

00:15:53.120 and, uh, in the media and things like that.

00:15:56.120 And, um, he, he, it's the Zapruder film, the JFK assassination film.

00:16:02.520 Um, and he is playing it, and then it's, it's not the one that you've seen before.

00:16:10.660 It's the one where the driver turns around and shoots JFK in the head.

00:16:15.200 And then she's like, wait, what?

00:16:17.140 You know, and this is 1992.

00:16:18.520 When, when the Zapruder film isn't, you couldn't just like go on the internet and watch it immediately.

00:16:22.220 Right.

00:16:22.660 And it wasn't easy to make fake films.

00:16:25.120 Right.

00:16:25.740 Films.

00:16:26.400 And then, and then he shows her another tape.

00:16:29.780 And that tape, he says, is the, the one that everybody's seen on the media.

00:16:34.780 And he pauses it and there's a half of a tree missing.

00:16:38.240 And he says, this is the, the one everybody's seen has actually been manipulated.

00:16:42.560 I showed you the real one.

00:16:46.140 Uh, and this is before the internet and CGI.

00:16:49.700 And what his point was just to confuse her and she would later go back to her friends

00:16:56.500 and say, no, I saw it.

00:16:57.840 There's a tree missing.

00:16:58.920 When you have the internet, there's no tree missing.

00:17:02.560 There's no tree missing.

00:17:03.900 So both of those were fake. 0.96

00:17:06.520 She sounded like a lunatic because both were fake that she saw him or that she saw with 0.97

00:17:14.820 him. 0.99

00:17:15.240 Huh?

00:17:15.760 It's, it's an incredible, they show the, they show the, the whole scene.

00:17:19.640 It's, it's amazing.

00:17:21.040 Now, what's the, uh, let me ask you this.

00:17:22.300 What's the spoiler level of this?

00:17:23.740 Like if I haven't watched the series yet, do I want to watch the series then watch this

00:17:26.980 interview?

00:17:27.480 Do I want to do it?

00:17:28.860 What's your, I think you could listen to the interview and, uh, and find out, you know,

00:17:34.820 stuff and understand it.

00:17:36.040 I think it's better if you listen to, I intentionally did not, it's a three hour documentary.

00:17:41.640 It's in three nights.

00:17:42.600 Okay.

00:17:43.180 Took, we, we watched in three nights, uh, three or four.

00:17:46.140 And, um, you really don't know what turn is next.

00:17:51.680 You really have no idea.

00:17:53.760 I went in and I made the choice.

00:17:55.900 This is for people who have watched it.

00:17:58.040 So I don't explain, we don't go through the whole thing.

00:18:02.560 Okay.

00:18:02.880 Okay.

00:18:03.180 We just go into the things, if you've watched it or you could listen to this and you will

00:18:07.940 be fascinated by it and you'll want to watch it, but I don't think there's any spoiler.

00:18:12.600 There's just too much to cover, uh, that you just, it's remarkable.

00:18:17.980 It's called the octopus murders and, uh, it's on Netflix and the interview with the really

00:18:24.040 brave journalist, almost borderline crazy.

00:18:26.960 So brave, uh, and his best friend filmmaker, uh, the interview is available now came out

00:18:34.320 last night for blaze TV subscribers and will be available, uh, on tomorrow on Saturday, wherever

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00:19:48.300 Ashton Forbes, investigative journalist.

00:19:50.660 How are you, sir?

00:19:52.160 Hey, Glenn.

00:19:52.760 Good to be here, man.

00:19:53.500 How are you doing?

00:19:54.060 Very good.

00:19:54.840 So is it, is it safe to say, I mean, I don't even know how to approach this.

00:20:00.560 Um, I really respect your intellect.

00:20:04.880 You seem to know enough about science that you can pull this off with credibility.

00:20:11.360 But at, at some point did even you say this can't be.

00:20:17.380 Oh yeah.

00:20:18.060 Every single day.

00:20:18.940 So I'm not really a conspiracy guy.

00:20:21.120 I wouldn't say I'm a UFO guy.

00:20:22.440 I'm just a normal guy.

00:20:23.560 This whole investigation started with probably the two most incredible videos in the history

00:20:27.460 of man.

00:20:27.900 Uh, you have to be your own harshest critic when you are dealing with something that is

00:20:31.440 this beyond the paradigm.

00:20:33.060 Uh, but if you go to the Sherlock Holmes quote is once you eliminate the impossible, whatever

00:20:36.560 remains, no matter how improbable must be the truth.

00:20:39.720 So I've heard that you're a skeptical related to this, and I'm sure a lot of people listening

00:20:43.900 are, I don't blame them at all.

00:20:45.420 So what I want to do with you here today is I want to deconstruct the lie.

00:20:48.260 I want to talk about what really happened with MH370.

00:20:51.240 And then I want to talk about the leaker and the science of what it means for us as a civilization.

00:20:55.700 Okay.

00:20:55.860 Well, so the first thing I want to ask you, Glenn, and everybody else is out there is

00:20:58.660 what do you think happened to MH370, you know, and based on what evidence is the strongest

00:21:03.680 evidence in your mind, based on what you've heard from the media, what have you.

00:21:07.320 Uh, and then the last question is, you know, how does a plane crash into the ocean without

00:21:10.620 leaving a debris field?

00:21:11.960 So, and I don't mean this to put you on the spot, but I just want to understand how

00:21:15.220 people think about it.

00:21:16.280 Yeah.

00:21:16.600 Quite honestly, I didn't pay that much attention to it because I was concerned about other

00:21:20.260 things, but here's my recollection of it.

00:21:22.980 Um, it, uh, uh, it took off.

00:21:26.040 There was some sort of trouble.

00:21:28.380 Uh, it kind of took like a left hand turn for some reason.

00:21:32.820 They followed it for a while and then it just kind of went into the drink they thought.

00:21:36.740 And I thought that they had found some debris, uh, washing up on maybe the African shore,

00:21:45.720 or I can't remember.

00:21:47.660 Yeah, no, that's good.

00:21:49.040 And so what a lot of people think out there is that this was some kind of suicidal pilot

00:21:52.700 who took the plane to the middle of nowhere and somehow landed it softly in the ocean for

00:21:57.460 some inexplicable reason that you don't do during a suicidal route.

00:22:00.680 Um, and what I want to tell those people is that this narrative out there is a complete

00:22:04.440 fiction.

00:22:04.760 We searched along the seventh arc, which is where we have these satellite things where

00:22:08.900 supposedly we know exactly along this arc where the plane crashed and we didn't find

00:22:13.180 a single thing.

00:22:14.000 We found no black boxes.

00:22:15.300 We didn't find a single piece of debris.

00:22:17.460 Uh, there is about 1500 pounds of foam on the seats of these planes that should have

00:22:21.640 been floating.

00:22:22.260 And we found absolutely nothing at all.

00:22:24.140 Uh, the, the suicide narrative, I call it the myth has been completely debunked.

00:22:28.360 This guy was supported by his family, his coworkers, all the officials, the officials have ruled

00:22:33.700 out him being involved.

00:22:35.360 Uh, it's not even technically possible.

00:22:36.780 I don't think they necessarily turn off all the APUs, the power generators, uh, within the

00:22:41.040 64 seconds from the last communication, people think that he had some kind of route that he

00:22:45.680 planned out there.

00:22:46.800 Um, the FBI looked at it.

00:22:48.340 It was actually just MH one to five zero to Jetta from Kuala Lumpur.

00:22:52.040 And if you look at the flight path, it's exactly the same as, uh, what that flight path is.

00:22:56.720 He was actually slated to fly that on February 4th and the simulation data is from February 2nd.

00:23:02.460 So clearly he was just practicing that route out there.

00:23:05.660 Um, we know beyond any shadow of a doubt that the United States government knows what happened

00:23:10.040 on this plane.

00:23:11.040 And the way we know that is because they have something called SIBRS space-based infrared

00:23:15.140 system by Lockheed Martin.

00:23:16.800 Uh, we never forget who we're working for.

00:23:19.280 That's their real slogan.

00:23:20.280 It's always scanning the earth all the time with geostationary satellites.

00:23:24.300 And they've now incorporated mid earth orbit and low earth orbit satellites into it.

00:23:28.140 It can produce a Google earth 3d video playback capability that integrates real Google earth as

00:23:35.500 well as software called quick terrain modeler.

00:23:38.460 And it's used ground-based computer systems to pull data from these satellites where someone

00:23:42.440 can just log in, pull up location and, and track objects.

00:23:45.740 Now it's official purposes for tracking missiles, but not a lot of missiles get shot up all the

00:23:50.040 time.

00:23:50.240 So you can imagine how very easily it could be used to track boats, planes, et cetera.

00:23:54.220 Okay.

00:23:54.500 So what is this, what is this called again?

00:23:57.200 Space-based infrared systems, SIBRS.

00:23:59.540 So if you Google it, you can find a video of it out there on Lockheed Martin's YouTube channel.

00:24:04.040 Uh, when you look at it, you can see that these satellites are scanning the whole world.

00:24:08.460 All the time, persistent, global, persistent, infrared surveillance.

00:24:11.900 That's the very first words in the video itself.

00:24:15.000 Um, and there's no way that this system wouldn't have caught a rogue seven, seven, seven flying

00:24:19.140 for eight hours, uh, as well as SOSA system, which is the sound surveillance system.

00:24:24.260 This is a hydrophone system.

00:24:25.600 This is the one that actually heard the Titan sub implode off the, off the Titanic, uh, last

00:24:30.520 year.

00:24:30.900 And if it can hear a tiny sub implode, then there's no chance it wouldn't hear a seven,

00:24:36.340 seven, seven crashing into the ocean.

00:24:38.280 Diego Garcia and Western Australia have hydrophones that should have heard this crash and they should

00:24:43.600 have been able to pinpoint that just like they did the Titan sub, uh, that we know the

00:24:47.200 Navy has no problem lying about it because they lied about the Titan sub for five days.

00:24:50.560 All the, you know, mainstream media news stations saying how much oxygen do they have left?

00:24:54.960 And then we also found out about radar.

00:24:57.340 People don't even realize that radar systems are not limited to line of sight.

00:25:01.260 They actually have something called over the horizon radar, which bounces off the ionosphere

00:25:05.140 and can see for thousands of miles.

00:25:08.260 So not only is the JORN, the Jindali operational radar network from Australia have this, but

00:25:14.140 also most likely without almost any doubt, the Diego Garcia military base in the Indian

00:25:18.880 ocean, as well as the Pine Gap American base in Australia, all three of these systems should

00:25:24.220 have had radar capability to track the plane from takeoff to wherever it supposedly landed

00:25:28.420 in the South Indian ocean.

00:25:30.240 Um, in addition to that, we found spy satellite USA 229.

00:25:33.860 It's a naval ocean surveillance, uh, satellite that's run by the Navy, uh, has a sister satellite

00:25:39.300 right next to it, capable of potentially taking 3d stereoscopic, uh, imagery using their sensors

00:25:44.820 that was right in the Malacca Straits at 1840 UTC on March 7th, 2014, staring right down

00:25:52.220 at the coordinates that we see in the MH370 satellite video.

00:25:56.160 Now, in addition to that, you asked, uh, and the one thing I want to say first is that

00:25:59.120 the Malaysian minister of defense as well, he says in an interview seven weeks later after

00:26:04.100 the plane disappears, that they knew the plane was not hostile.

00:26:06.980 And that's why they didn't send up jets to track the plane.

00:26:09.560 And you ask yourself, how could you know that a rogue 777 with no communications is not hostile?

00:26:16.140 You couldn't, they must've had communications with the plane.

00:26:19.240 So this begs the question where communications classified from us that they didn't want to

00:26:23.880 release because they would give up what really occurred on this plane.

00:26:26.360 The last thing I want to say is the debris.

00:26:28.580 Actually, the story that I'm putting forth is the only one consistent with the debris washing

00:26:32.980 up in Africa.

00:26:33.680 It's actually impossible for almost all of the debris to have washed up in Africa from 1.00

00:26:38.680 the supposed crash site off the coast of Australia.

00:26:41.540 No one's seen the piece of this together, but it couldn't have gone to Russia.

00:26:44.180 It couldn't have been shot down over the South trying to see if that's the case.

00:26:46.800 And even that crash site down there, the very first debris drift models they put together,

00:26:51.420 they threw some boards in the water, immediately found out it was impossible for the debris to

00:26:55.060 have even gotten to the reunion island, let alone to South Africa.

00:26:58.120 So then they get a flapper on from the United States and they say, okay, let's throw this

00:27:01.440 in the water and then they go, yep, okay, this is good enough.

00:27:03.680 It'll get to the reunion island, but they don't realize that they have the flapper on

00:27:08.040 sticking out of the water, but the part that's sticking out of the water has barnacles all

00:27:12.240 over it, which means that had to be submerged, which means that, and they need that because

00:27:16.380 they need the wind to blow on it so that it would drift to that location.

00:27:19.940 In addition to that, they look at those barnacles and they find out that the barnacles only have

00:27:23.760 four months of growth on them, as opposed to the 16 months since the plane disappeared.

00:27:28.040 Four months is not enough time for that thing to have drifted 2,000 miles.

00:27:33.500 And if you look at the CNN list of what the debris is out there, you'll find a piece of

00:27:37.600 engine cowling that's listed on there, which clearly has an RR of Rolls-Royce.

00:27:41.440 It's pretty clearly a 777 engine cowling.

00:27:45.340 This shows up in South Africa, 3,000 miles away, literally impossible for it to have floated

00:27:49.720 all the way from the supposed crash site.

00:27:51.500 And if you look at the currents in that area down there in South Indian Ocean, they actually

00:27:59.040 go to the east.

00:28:00.300 The debris, if this plane crashes somewhere down there, the debris should have washed

00:28:03.560 up all over Australia.

00:28:05.180 So we can conclusively say that there is essentially no way that this plane could have, A, crashed

00:28:10.200 down there in South Indian Ocean, and B, we know with the United States that they must

00:28:14.220 know what happened to the plane.

00:28:15.520 Okay, so let me ask you this.

00:28:18.400 If this were happening in real time, the first thing, because it's going off path and it's

00:28:25.060 off path for eight hours, you would say that jets would be scrambled.

00:28:30.080 It was a hostile because, I mean, that's logical to think.

00:28:33.640 If they thought this guy was on a suicide path or a suicide mission, at least the defense

00:28:39.880 of the world in all countries would do everything they can to lock on to that.

00:28:46.820 So that gives credence to the sound, you know, the hydrophonic sound being activated, the

00:28:56.040 infrared, the satellites, everything would have been just routinely locked on to a Rogue 777.

00:29:04.400 Do you think?

00:29:05.560 Oh, absolutely.

00:29:06.360 And especially because people are afraid that they're going to go flying to the Patronus

00:29:09.860 Towers in Kuala Lumpur.

00:29:11.460 So, I mean, this is like a post 9-11 world we're talking about here.

00:29:16.060 So the other thing, too, is that if that plane didn't crash in the South Indian Ocean, it

00:29:20.880 begs the question, were those satellite pins correct or not?

00:29:24.160 And if those satellite pins were not correct or misinterpreted or something, now this plane

00:29:28.600 could really be anywhere out there.

00:29:29.740 But here's the problem.

00:29:30.340 You say, well, the ocean is really big.

00:29:32.320 You know, maybe it went somewhere else.

00:29:33.100 The problem is the official narrative has it running out of fuel.

00:29:35.280 And they say that these satellite pins indicate exactly where it ran out of fuel, and that's

00:29:39.300 where the plane should be.

00:29:40.360 If those satellite pins are incorrect, then you throw out all the pilot suicide narrative.

00:29:45.240 You throw out everything up to where this plane turned into the South Indian Ocean, and that's

00:29:50.460 in the Nicobar Islands.

00:29:51.920 And it turns out we have two videos, and one of those is called Satellite Video Airliner and

00:29:56.480 UFOs.

00:29:57.240 And in the bottom left of that video, it has coordinates.

00:30:00.620 It says N-R-O-L-22. 1.00

00:30:02.600 That's the first launch of the Cibir system in 2006.

00:30:05.980 Right next to it has coordinates that are accurate to six decimal places that shift when

00:30:09.860 the perspective changes.

00:30:11.100 We're able to graph that out.

00:30:12.500 That location is the Nicobar Islands.

00:30:14.020 That location is the exact location where they say this plane turned into the South Indian

00:30:17.860 Ocean.

00:30:18.720 Now, one more thing I want to say, just to conclusively prove this plane didn't crash in the

00:30:21.860 South Indian Ocean.

00:30:22.480 Nineteen family members signed a joint statement saying that the phones were still ringing for

00:30:27.700 up to four days.

00:30:29.300 One of them even proved it on national television.

00:30:31.300 They begged the governments to look into it.

00:30:34.140 So we also have to wonder why the White House was calling the Malaysian government every single

00:30:39.620 day.

00:30:39.980 It's not because they cared about Philip Wood, the one American passenger on board this

00:30:43.620 plane.

00:30:44.400 They were calling because they were trying to set up a cover story.

00:30:46.900 That's the reason for all the obfuscation.

00:30:48.620 That's why when you remember back to it, you go, well, we were looking at the South China

00:30:51.460 Sea, and then they say, well, now it turned over the peninsula of Malaysia, which that

00:30:55.660 should have been obvious from the beginning if they had radar of that from their military

00:30:59.040 radar.

00:30:59.940 And then they say, OK, well, now it made another turn, flew over Penang, the closest airport

00:31:04.580 that you would go to, and goes to the Nicobar Islands, and then makes a sharp turn into the

00:31:08.600 South Indian Ocean.

00:31:09.280 And that narrative came from United States intelligence sources, unnamed sources, on March 13th,

00:31:14.700 March 14th, 2014.

00:31:17.140 So in my mind, it's very clear.

00:31:18.880 They were trying to develop a cover story for something that happened that they didn't

00:31:22.180 want the world to know about.

00:31:24.000 Who's on the plane?

00:31:26.120 Anybody important?

00:31:27.460 Any?

00:31:29.140 Yeah.

00:31:29.620 Oh, yes.

00:31:30.240 So, and the beauty is we don't even really need the MH370 videos to show that something

00:31:35.020 crazy happened here.

00:31:36.860 We've got 20 freescale semiconductor scientists and engineers on board this plane.

00:31:41.160 Far too many people for one plane to be out there.

00:31:44.800 Like my company, instead of the rules, like only two to three people.

00:31:47.220 And these are people with highly advanced technical knowledge.

00:31:50.380 Now, the reason why these people are the motive is because when you look at advanced

00:31:54.400 technology, the two major things that are at the cutting edge right now are plasma physics

00:31:59.600 and semiconductors, superconductors, superconductivity.

00:32:04.420 When you look at stuff like AI, quantum computers, they all use superconductive microchips.

00:32:11.400 And these microchips have been getting more and more advanced.

00:32:13.140 They had just released a microchip that was smaller than the dimple in a golf ball.

00:32:17.900 In fact, we found a Lockheed Martin patent for a coherent matter wave beam, which is

00:32:21.880 pretty much exact.

00:32:22.800 It's a transducer, something that converts energy from one type to another.

00:32:26.160 That's exactly what we need in order to create the type of anti-gravity effects that we are

00:32:30.940 seeing in the MH370 videos.

00:32:33.480 And that patent from Lockheed Martin was out in 2013.

00:32:36.040 It's 10 microns in length.

00:32:38.320 This thing is like the size of a bacteria.

00:32:40.880 That's how small some of these things are.

00:32:42.820 So when you look at this and you ask, why would you do this?

00:32:45.320 Why this plane?

00:32:46.560 Right away, you have to look at those free scale semiconductor employees.

00:32:49.500 Eight of them are Chinese nationals.

00:32:51.160 Twelve are Malaysian nationals.

00:32:52.540 They're working for an American company.

00:32:54.520 And the number one target for intellectual property espionage theft is actually foreign nationals

00:33:03.420 that work for American companies.

00:33:04.740 It costs the United States and American companies roughly $600 billion per year.

00:33:10.660 So I think that there's two different scenarios that I think are plausible here.

00:33:14.480 One is that somebody was on this plane that wanted to be rescued, a VIP, or however you

00:33:21.020 want to look at it.

00:33:21.900 And the United States intervened because they're the ones filming this.

00:33:25.420 Or the other way that you could look at it is that this is a counter espionage operation,

00:33:29.760 that these people were going to China.

00:33:31.240 They're going to Beijing from Kalimpur.

00:33:32.900 They were going to give China some very powerful intellectual property.

00:33:37.680 And the United States said, no, we're going to go ahead and just, you know, have that plan

00:33:42.140 blow up in your face, metaphorically speaking. 0.94

00:33:45.480 Okay. 0.96

00:33:46.700 We're going to take a break in just a couple of minutes and we'll get to what the film is

00:33:51.920 that you have.

00:33:53.720 But before we get there, tell me how do you just dismiss the pings, the location pings?

00:34:02.940 Yeah.

00:34:03.160 So I've looked at the satellite pings myself, probably one of the only people that actually

00:34:06.420 did.

00:34:07.500 And when you get up to 1840, right before 1840, there's only two phone calls made to

00:34:11.840 this airplane.

00:34:12.540 One is at 1839, unanswered to the cockpit.

00:34:16.200 Again, why would it be unanswered if we supposedly are trying to reach communication with them?

00:34:21.000 And why would we not call them more often if they don't pick up?

00:34:24.200 And then after that, there's only 10 rows of data.

00:34:26.520 So before that, there's hundreds of rows of data.

00:34:28.940 Looks normal.

00:34:29.520 And after that, just 10 rows of data for this plane is supposedly going to the South

00:34:32.860 Indian Ocean.

00:34:33.700 There's a pattern change in the data.

00:34:35.580 I talked to the experts from the independent group.

00:34:38.580 Nobody can give me a logical explanation for why the data changes like this.

00:34:42.380 So the difference between this plane ending in the Nicobar Islands and the South Indian

00:34:45.920 Ocean is 10 rows of data on an Excel spreadsheet.

00:34:48.700 And then they call again around 2313, 2315.

00:34:52.640 And that's it.

00:34:53.140 If you've got a Rogue's 777 going out there, it might be hijacked, what have you.

00:34:57.040 Why would you not give it another phone call?

00:35:00.060 And the real story of what happened to this plane is that there was a fire event related

00:35:03.980 to 500 pounds of lithium-ion batteries.

00:35:07.160 Two stacks of it were in the forward cargo bay right next to the equipment center, the

00:35:11.720 electronics bay.

00:35:12.460 And there's 19 witnesses that support this.

00:35:15.820 We have Mike McKay sees it on fire from his oil rig.

00:35:18.860 Nine witnesses along the coast hear loud noises at the exact same time this fire starts.

00:35:23.140 Fire suppression devices go off, put it out.

00:35:25.380 You've got eight fishermen on a boat who see the plane 10 minutes later.

00:35:29.100 It's also been corroborated now that the plane did an emergency descent right after it turned

00:35:32.960 around.

00:35:33.680 Consistent with what you do during a fire event to get more oxygen into the plane for the

00:35:37.860 passengers.

00:35:38.360 You're not going to kill them.

00:35:39.200 So before we get into this next segment, I want to make it really clear that I have

00:35:45.160 no idea what's real or not anymore on some things.

00:35:48.720 I have no idea what our government's capable of, not capable of.

00:35:52.320 I have zero clue.

00:35:55.120 This sounds so unbelievable, but I don't know all the technology.

00:36:02.100 I don't know enough to be able to say this isn't true.

00:36:05.420 Um, but I'm also not, don't know enough to say it is true.

00:36:10.600 It's Friday.

00:36:11.620 I thought, I thought we'd have some fun by looking at something that I don't know might

00:36:15.600 be true.

00:36:16.480 Probably not, but could be.

00:36:18.100 I know that Ashton Forbes has done his homework.

00:36:21.320 He's an intelligent human being, um, and knows the science behind all of this and may be

00:36:28.980 right.

00:36:29.520 I don't know.

00:36:30.660 Ashton is with us.

00:36:31.680 He told me half an hour ago, he kind of feels like every day he's like, I don't know.

00:36:36.160 I don't know.

00:36:37.320 So we're about to show some video here, Ashton, um, of, of the plane and what you, this is

00:36:44.740 the main thing that you say, uh, needs to be looked at.

00:36:50.640 Tell me about the video, what we're about to hear and see, uh, and, and where we got

00:36:58.880 the video.

00:37:00.500 Yeah.

00:37:00.940 So this video has been on the internet since 2014.

00:37:03.520 Uh, we've been able to trace it back to an account called Regicide and non, uh, the

00:37:07.940 very first video satellite video was says received March 12th, 2014 source protected.

00:37:14.860 It was published May 19th, 2014.

00:37:18.100 This is nine days before the raw telemetry data, those satellite pings were first available

00:37:23.280 to the public.

00:37:24.780 Uh, and that's why it's so important when we see those coordinates in the bottom left.

00:37:27.900 Uh, the second video was supposedly received June 5th, 2014 published June 12th, 2014 on

00:37:35.740 the same channel.

00:37:36.620 Most people ignored this footage.

00:37:37.960 A lot of people have said that they saw it back in 2014.

00:37:41.080 I saw the drone video back in 2014.

00:37:43.320 I ignored it.

00:37:44.280 Like most people did.

00:37:45.100 I think it's only in 2023, 2024, that we can even begin to understand that what we see

00:37:50.840 there is potentially real because science on the public side is slowly catching up.

00:37:55.600 These private defense contractors, they know this stuff is real and that's how far ahead

00:38:00.140 they are from us.

00:38:01.020 So they are potentially 50 or a hundred years beyond what the public might think is possible.

00:38:05.360 We had a $150,000 bounty for the hoaxer to come forward with proof of their source work.

00:38:10.780 Uh, you know, because somebody didn't make these with just one shot.

00:38:13.980 It would have taken lots of time and effort to put these together.

00:38:16.220 There's not one discrepancy on a single frame in either video, no errors anywhere.

00:38:21.380 The clouds actually do move and evolve in the satellite video.

00:38:24.820 People don't think that they do because they don't realize how far away the satellites are

00:38:29.100 potentially from the earth and how each perspective is only a few seconds.

00:38:33.020 The zap of the satellite video accurately illuminates the volumetric clouds in three dimensions.

00:38:38.540 Uh, there's no reference copy to copy any of this from, which is a prerequisite for producing

00:38:44.060 CGI because we have two videos from different perspectives that are perfectly in sync with

00:38:48.480 one another.

00:38:49.020 And you can see the same clouds and even triangulate the drone position.

00:38:51.980 This would require a full 3d rendered environment using hardware and software from before 2014.

00:38:57.000 This also predates all commercial AI as well as, um, deepfake technology.

00:39:02.980 So if people think that you could recreate this, I guarantee you, this is not some simple

00:39:07.200 recreation in order to pull this off.

00:39:09.300 Now, even more important than that, the details in the videos are scientifically accurate.

00:39:13.180 What we're looking at here is something called macroscopic phase conjugation.

00:39:16.560 It is essentially functionally equivalent to Star Trek warp drive.

00:39:19.760 Um, this is science that would be consistent with what Tesla had put forth and other people

00:39:25.080 like Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Bearden in the eighties.

00:39:28.020 Uh, the simplest thing that explanation I could give is that there is an extra dimension

00:39:31.660 that we do not perceive that our reality is painted onto.

00:39:35.140 We're going to bring back the term, the ether, which is something that, uh, Tesla promoted.

00:39:39.240 This was how we get the negative energy requirement that we need in order for a wormhole to exist.

00:39:44.060 Uh, the macroscopic phase conjugation using something called mixed wave interferometry, it's very

00:39:50.100 similar to holography in terms of making a hologram.

00:39:53.360 Uh, we have our three pump waves, which is our zero point system that we see with our orbs

00:39:57.280 and creating that triangle formation.

00:39:58.980 And then we have a fourth orb that we do not see on the screen here, which is essentially

00:40:03.140 shooting a phase conjugate wave into that.

00:40:05.920 And then it gets a perfectly reflected beam going back the other direction.

00:40:09.300 So essentially we are creating a gravitational wave here through electro, uh, magnetics.

00:40:14.740 And then we are having this, uh, plane flingshot, like pulling on a rubber band and letting go

00:40:19.440 of one side from one location to another.

00:40:22.160 So what I'm saying here is this is not aliens.

00:40:24.220 This is our technology.

00:40:25.820 I don't know where we got it.

00:40:26.820 And I don't frankly really care.

00:40:28.600 I think it could go as far back as 1943 in the Philadelphia experiment, maybe even the

00:40:33.560 Manhattan project.

00:40:34.640 But what I want people to know is that Tesla was right.

00:40:37.740 Uh, the event that we see in the thermal is an endothermic event.

00:40:41.600 It's an absorption of energy.

00:40:43.240 This is again, consistent with what Thomas Bearden promoted in the eighties, talking about

00:40:47.040 cold explosions, absorbing energy from one location and having to reappear somewhere else.

00:40:53.240 Um, this may even be the first endothermic event ever recorded as far as I know.

00:40:58.200 Now, basically what you're talking about is we're making a wormhole, right?

00:41:03.440 Yeah.

00:41:04.380 Yeah.

00:41:04.720 And so this goes back to an idea, um, that has been promoted by Einstein.

00:41:10.060 Einstein, uh, or ER equals EPR, uh, Leonard Susskind and Juan Naldacena have promoted this,

00:41:15.620 uh, which is the idea that an Einstein-Rosen bridge or wormhole could be consistent with

00:41:20.080 Einstein-Kaldoski-Rosen, which is quantum entanglement.

00:41:22.940 We know we can teleport, uh, quantum information that's already been proven, but the idea is how

00:41:28.160 do we do that on a macroscopic scale?

00:41:29.980 Juan Naldacena has actually recently in the last four years promoted, uh, humanly traversable

00:41:35.280 wormholes as well as paper.

00:41:36.800 So the idea that you could go through a wormhole and you're not going to rip to shreds.

00:41:40.020 In fact, we were just looking recently on my live streams, two different defense intelligence

00:41:44.060 agency papers, one called warp drive, dark energy, and manipulation of extra dimensions.

00:41:49.560 And the other one called traversable wormholes, stargates, and negative energy.

00:41:53.960 Both of these papers pretty much lay out exactly what we see in those videos.

00:41:57.920 And the only thing that people are confused about is where, how do you get the negative

00:42:01.140 energy requirement?

00:42:02.220 Well, once you add the idea of the ether and we get rid of all this quantum fluctuations

00:42:06.660 and, um, virtual particles that physicists talk about now, that's just the ether with extra

00:42:11.700 steps.

00:42:12.400 So we just go back to the idea of having an ether.

00:42:15.000 And if you have a high enough energy intensity, you break through the Schwinger limit.

00:42:19.060 And now the, our kind of local space time becomes non-linear.

00:42:24.020 Okay.

00:42:24.080 It's going to self-correct.

00:42:25.440 Okay.

00:42:26.360 Uh, you're way over my head.

00:42:28.180 I'm sure you're way over everybody else's head, but I wanted you to show you, you're, 0.99

00:42:32.280 you're not an idiot, uh, when it comes to, to science. 0.99

00:42:36.280 Now go back to the video. 0.99

00:42:38.700 Let's show it.

00:42:39.900 It's the blue video with the heat signature of the plane, which is, is that the satellite

00:42:45.820 video?

00:42:46.060 No, that one's our drone video.

00:42:48.640 So the satellite video is going to be the, the white and kind of blue one.

00:42:51.600 And we believe this is happening at night and it's, you know, false color IR in the,

00:42:55.040 uh, the satellite.

00:42:56.220 And then in the, in the drone video, it's thermal.

00:42:58.120 Okay.

00:42:58.380 So we see the, in the, in the thermal video, the drone video, we see one object, round object

00:43:05.740 coming to the plane and then kind of making a weird kind of path around the plane.

00:43:10.400 Then two others come and they, they triangulate the plane and spin quickly around the center

00:43:18.320 or the nose of the plane.

00:43:19.800 I can't tell which.

00:43:21.280 So what they do right away is they're spinning around it in a spherical formation.

00:43:25.540 This is clearly mapping the plane to some degree.

00:43:28.040 My guess is what they're doing is they're trying to figure out how big the mouth of the

00:43:31.500 wormhole needs to be to encompass the entire plane.

00:43:33.580 Uh, so they can produce the exact right amount of energy that's necessary.

00:43:36.920 And then they actually reorient, uh, about halfway through, and then they begin to go

00:43:40.980 vertical around the plane in a ring formation, which if you look at the right hand rule in

00:43:45.780 electro, um, electrical engineering, you'll find that then the vector, uh, based on this

00:43:51.140 would be backwards, which when this dark event happens, actually, you can see we've overlaid

00:43:56.660 it.

00:43:56.800 The plane slightly moves backwards into this wormhole as well.

00:44:00.480 So this is actually also consistent with electrical engineering principles.

00:44:04.680 Okay.

00:44:04.860 And I have to go ahead.

00:44:05.900 I'm sorry.

00:44:06.580 We just have such little time.

00:44:07.960 And I, I mean, I would urge people to want to know more to go to your website and, and

00:44:12.680 follow this.

00:44:13.720 Um, but these three things open up and then there's this like black blotch.

00:44:18.520 This just looks like, what, what is that?

00:44:21.480 That's energy.

00:44:23.080 Yeah.

00:44:23.540 So this is technically what we're looking at there is a cold event, an endothermic event,

00:44:27.480 an absorption of energy.

00:44:28.860 So I would argue that what we're looking at there is the mouth of the wormhole.

00:44:32.540 And if you want to think of it as in layman's terms, what you think is you're, you're ripping

00:44:35.800 through the fabric of reality there.

00:44:37.660 So if you think of our reality as a painting, you're ripping the painting off and you're

00:44:41.260 looking at the underlying canvas there and it's quickly closing up again, right after.

00:44:45.200 Okay.

00:44:45.400 So let me now, let me go to the other.

00:44:47.420 It's like a black and white or black and blue and, and white kind of, you see the clouds,

00:44:52.480 you see the plane coming in.

00:44:53.840 And this is secret, uh, this is our satellite tracking system.

00:45:00.700 Yeah.

00:45:01.100 So we don't look through satellites individually anymore.

00:45:03.460 I mean, it's 2024, even in 2014, you know, we use ground-based computers and then they

00:45:07.260 can rebuild using ground-based computers and software, a tracking mechanism.

00:45:11.580 And that's how we're able to look at it like this without seeing the satellite move.

00:45:15.680 Okay.

00:45:16.040 Uh, we, so, uh, and then what I was gonna say in the thermal video too, there was heat

00:45:20.340 signatures in the orbs as well, which is consistent with topological monopoles that was only publicly

00:45:25.800 available from the Alto university paper in 2015, a year after these videos as well.

00:45:31.780 So the science that we see in here, um, really wasn't even publicly available at the time when

00:45:36.860 these videos were, uh, released and made public.

00:45:39.660 And all of a sudden in the second video, you see the flash and the plane just disappear.

00:45:45.880 Now, this seems, this seems ridiculously, uh, unbelievable.

00:45:54.280 You know what I mean?

00:45:55.160 Cause just, I mean, it's just, you don't see it.

00:45:58.760 How could this possibly be true?

00:46:00.900 Um, but yeah, the science, uh, would show that it's possible, um, if you, if you play

00:46:08.840 it out, but why would we do this?

00:46:12.440 Yeah.

00:46:13.080 And then why cover it up?

00:46:14.720 And what I would say is that we are potentially looking at the most secret classified super

00:46:19.580 weapons in the United States military arsenal.

00:46:21.780 We dropped the atomic bomb in 1945.

00:46:24.160 That was 79 years ago.

00:46:27.080 And people still think that nuclear weapons are the most powerful weapon we have.

00:46:30.080 No, the military has figured out a unification theory of quantum field mechanics and general

00:46:34.360 relativity.

00:46:35.060 And now we have gravity manipulation and space time manipulation.

00:46:39.220 This type of weapon is unstoppable on this planet.

00:46:42.260 Whoever has this technology controls the planet.

00:46:44.300 This is why the coverup.

00:46:45.340 This is why they want us talking about social issues and nobody looking at why kind of advanced

00:46:50.600 technology.

00:46:51.080 Why would we allow this to, why did we do this to this plane?

00:46:55.200 Yeah.

00:46:55.620 And doing this to this plane again.

00:46:56.900 So you would say that the only logical explanation in my mind, this is a show of force.

00:47:00.140 We wanted China and Russia to see this.

00:47:02.260 We want to say, you're going to try to steal our guys, our guys that know how this technology

00:47:05.520 works.

00:47:05.960 We got to make the microchips, potentially know the plasma physics in this case, the microchip

00:47:10.460 producers that what we see in these orbs here, that's a plasma field around the

00:47:14.960 orbs.

00:47:15.260 If you look up hypersonic weapons, that's what you need to make a hypersonic weapon

00:47:18.980 work so that they can move the speeds at which they do is a plasma sheet around them.

00:47:23.740 So within this is some smaller object.

00:47:26.000 And I guarantee that there are very advanced microchips within that small object as well.

00:47:31.080 And you could, so you could argue that those are the reasons why we're trying to do this.

00:47:34.760 And they didn't expect these videos to leak, of course, but they would expect China and 1.00

00:47:38.760 Russia to have their own satellites and they would have some idea of, well, what did somebody

00:47:42.300 just do to this plane?

00:47:43.480 And this is like, hey, don't mess with us.

00:47:46.140 If you try to do this again, we're going to zap you to wherever we need to.

00:47:50.860 But I agree, it's a huge risk to be filming this.

00:47:53.420 And I think that we've only developed this warp drive technology based on the papers, probably

00:47:58.040 in the early to mid, maybe even late 2000s.

00:48:01.200 So I don't think this was a test, but I also don't think that this technology has been out

00:48:06.000 there for decades and decades.

00:48:07.620 I think that to get it to this point is probably relatively recently.

00:48:11.120 But that's a good question.

00:48:11.980 So let me, I've only got about a minute left and man, there's just so much to cover with

00:48:16.120 you.

00:48:16.380 But the last question is, who leaked this?

00:48:20.300 How did we get this?

00:48:22.120 I'm glad we did that.

00:48:23.000 So Edward C.

00:48:23.800 Lin is the guy.

00:48:24.680 If you look up his case, he took a plea deal to go into prison for six years and a nine

00:48:28.960 year sentence.

00:48:29.440 His timeline of being the VP U2 wizard squadron is a spy plane program is from February 2014,

00:48:35.440 where he first gets investigated April 2nd, 2014.

00:48:39.220 The defense argued the classified information and questions available on the internet.

00:48:43.840 The VP squadron has deployments in Diego Garcia military base.

00:48:47.340 The military was afraid that if this case went to trial, they would have to show what the

00:48:51.680 information was that he leaked to damage national security so badly.

00:48:55.180 I FOIAed the NCIS and they rejected my FOIA in total to be kept secret in the interest of

00:49:00.720 national defense or foreign policy.

00:49:02.620 And he was caught with flight manifests that include search and rescue code names as well.

00:49:06.700 So if anyone disbelieves or whatever, we have absolute proof that if you just go talk to

00:49:12.520 Edward C.

00:49:12.940 Lin, if we can get him to come forward and admit that he leaked these videos, if these

00:49:16.500 videos are real, he's the guy.

00:49:17.920 I gave this information to the AARO, the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office.

00:49:22.120 They responded back a couple of weeks ago saying, Mr. Forbes, my apologies for the slow response.

00:49:26.860 AARO is researching several topics.

00:49:28.720 Some of AARO's initial research into MH370 has revealed the U.S.

00:49:32.820 government search efforts after the airliner disappeared from radar.

00:49:35.740 I believe the genesis and authenticity of the videos may be helpful.

00:49:39.540 Can you confirm the date the videos were posted to the Regicide and on YouTube channel?

00:49:42.900 And yes, a quick follow-up call may be helpful.

00:49:45.340 They've ghosted me since then.

00:49:46.760 If these videos are real, they will be able to authenticate them.

00:49:51.560 Ashton, I honestly don't know what to think, but that's pretty much about everything right now.

00:49:58.600 In some ways, I hope that you're right.

00:50:00.920 All the people were most likely dead because of the fire, right?

00:50:04.500 That's my approach.

00:50:06.640 Yeah, it's not looking good.

00:50:08.200 So I always like to give the condolences to the family.

00:50:10.060 We've got a fire event.

00:50:11.140 Boeing planes, I don't trust at all.

00:50:13.000 It wouldn't surprise me if they spew toxic smoke when they start on fire and kill everybody.

00:50:17.060 So even when we get to the zap, it's not looking great.

00:50:19.600 So I don't want to give anybody false hope out there.

00:50:21.780 What I do want to tell people is that if this is real, then free energy is real.

00:50:25.740 And that will change our entire planet.

00:50:27.360 If you imagine the implications of free energy, you can see why they would hide this.

00:50:31.300 We have everything to gain from these videos and nothing to lose.

00:50:35.220 Yeah, that's really what caused the downfall of Tesla. 1.00

00:50:40.120 He had free energy, I believe.

00:50:42.840 And you can't put a meter on free energy.

00:50:47.240 And that's the real problem.

00:50:48.680 Money, always.

00:50:50.060 Ashton, thank you so much.

00:50:51.060 I appreciate it.

00:50:51.860 You're listening to the best of Glenn Beck.

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00:50:57.720 Cliff Sims, the author of Darkness Has Not Overcome, and former special assistant to President Trump.

00:51:06.160 And Cliff, I think right after the launch of GBTV, you were on, because I think you were in, maybe I have the wrong person, but I don't think I do.

00:51:17.220 You were involved with a Frederick Douglass something, and we were talking about that.

00:51:24.140 Were we not?

00:51:25.260 That's exactly right.

00:51:26.380 First TV interview I ever did in my entire life, I was chairman of the Alabama College Republicans, and we had a Frederick Douglass Republicans push going on at the time.

00:51:36.800 It coincided with what you were doing on the show, and you had me come on and talk about it.

00:51:41.500 So a little bit of a full circle moment here.

00:51:43.500 Yeah, that's cool.

00:51:44.400 And now, look at what you've accomplished.

00:51:46.240 I'm still here.

00:51:47.460 You went up and did things.

00:51:49.620 Congratulations.

00:51:50.100 So talk to me about a couple of things.

00:51:55.560 First of all, what it was like being a part of the room and being a part of something as historic as moving the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

00:52:10.100 Yeah, well, there's so many incredible stories around that topic, but the one that I remember the most is actually the day after the president made good on that promise, which we kind of take for granted now.

00:52:23.940 But it was a really kind of an unbelievable moment, given that Bush, Obama, I mean, go down the list of presidents, Clinton, who had said they were going to do it, and then they didn't.

00:52:33.580 Right.

00:52:33.900 That's right.

00:52:34.540 That's right.

00:52:35.400 And it kind of came to this foregone conclusion.

00:52:37.780 Oh, well, you promised to do that on the campaign trail, and you don't do it.

00:52:40.580 Well, when we get in the room to start talking about it, and Trump's like, well, hold on just a second.

00:52:44.280 We're doing this.

00:52:45.620 Like, it wasn't a question.

00:52:46.780 Like I said, I'm going to do it.

00:52:47.580 We're going to do it.

00:52:48.940 And so he follows through.

00:52:50.760 And right after the next.

00:52:51.640 Hang on just a second.

00:52:52.300 What was the pushback from the State Department alone?

00:52:56.860 Well, the pushback from the State Department, you know, pointy-headed experts over there, is really the same as what you heard from folks like Joe Biden, who said, you're going to bring the region to the brink of war.

00:53:10.120 You're going to spark mass chaos in the region, and they paint these kind of crazy scenarios of what was going to happen.

00:53:17.160 And right after the president did it, we walk out of the Oval, and we're in this part of the West Wing called the Outer Oval, right outside the Oval Office, and there's a TV on the wall.

00:53:27.420 And it's actually showing some of that chaos, some of the protests happening, which, frankly, at this point, look a lot like what we're seeing on college campuses around the country here in the United States.

00:53:41.080 But as we're watching it, the president's kind of just, you know, watching it unfold.

00:53:45.360 They're burning American flags.

00:53:46.920 They're screaming, Trump, Trump, you will see, Palestine will be free, you know, things like that.

00:53:53.420 And I had this weird sense that I can only compare to – it's going to be kind of a strange comparison, but I think you'll get it.

00:54:02.080 If you see someone trip on the sidewalk and you look away because you don't want them to see that you saw it happen because you feel this kind of secondhand embarrassment for them,

00:54:11.640 it's not that the president had done anything wrong, don't get me wrong, it's just when you're watching someone endure that type of criticism and hatred being directed at them, it's kind of an uncomfortable moment.

00:54:24.900 The president's reaction, though, I will never forget.

00:54:28.240 He watched it, and then he looked at me and he said, okay, what's next?

00:54:33.200 As in, like, what's next on the schedule today?

00:54:35.380 It did not faze him one bit, and it stuck with me because I think it's a core operating principle I try to apply to my life that anybody should apply to their life is you have to make peace with being misunderstood.

00:54:49.240 The longer you're willing to be misunderstood, the bigger, more disruptive change you can deliver.

00:54:54.840 And Trump was fearless and unafraid of the criticism, unafraid of people saying his intentions were nefarious, whatever, if he felt like he was doing the right thing.

00:55:06.020 And I gained a lot of respect for that because you just don't see that among politicians in America these days.

00:55:11.260 Yeah, I have to tell you, I may disagree with his tweets or whatever.

00:55:15.620 I find him funny.

00:55:16.660 I find him very funny.

00:55:17.840 But I also really like him.

00:55:19.580 I like him on what I have seen from him in real life, not in the media, not the showman, although, again, I enjoy the showman.

00:55:30.180 But he is a – I think he's an actual kind man that is who he is, knows who he is, and doesn't care about anything else.

00:55:42.960 He doesn't care what people say.

00:55:45.100 No, I think that's right.

00:55:45.920 And I've said it a million times, and people ask me at the same time, oh, my gosh, what's it like working for Trump and, you know, tweets and whatever it may be?

00:55:53.220 And I tell them, I'm just telling you right now, you cannot walk in a room with Donald Trump, no matter what your preconceived ideas are, and walk out not liking him.

00:56:02.240 Yeah, it's true.

00:56:02.840 He's going to make you feel like the most important person in the room.

00:56:07.180 You're going to have fun.

00:56:08.180 It's going to be funny.

00:56:09.600 So I totally agree.

00:56:10.960 Your experience is much the same as mine.

00:56:12.560 Yeah, and you always can tell the measure of a man by how they treat the lowest person in the room.

00:56:18.680 When I was out at Mar-a-Lago and we were shooting something, you know, you don't go to Mar-a-Lago, you don't look like a bum.

00:56:26.580 But, you know, we had the lighting people there that were just contractors, and, you know, my staff was there, and they were just going into this one room, and then they were going to break down and go away.

00:56:36.220 And so they weren't, you know, they weren't dressed like I was dressed.

00:56:39.780 And Trump said to me after the deal, he said, what are you doing for dinner?

00:56:44.000 And I said, I think we're probably going to McDonald's.

00:56:47.500 And he said, tempting.

00:56:49.460 Why don't you come have dinner with us at Mar-a-Lago?

00:56:52.020 And I was like, okay.

00:56:54.660 And I said, when and who?

00:56:58.420 And it was just this awkward moment.

00:56:59.720 He's like, no, everybody.

00:57:01.080 I mean, he cares about the lowest person on the ladder, which somebody, like, at that level usually doesn't.

00:57:09.700 You know, he introduces himself to everybody that can't affect him at all.

00:57:15.440 And that means something.

00:57:17.000 The most famous person in the world is going to introduce himself to someone when they walk up to him.

00:57:21.060 No, that's right.

00:57:21.600 And this is the side of him that you don't see in the media.

00:57:23.880 I mean, I can't even tell you how many times at Mar-a-Lago I have seen with no cameras around.

00:57:29.720 And he'll see people that are working there in various capacities at the big events and things.

00:57:36.440 And he'll walk up and take out his wallet and hand them $100 and say, great job tonight.

00:57:40.900 Thank you for what you're doing.

00:57:42.100 So I agree with you.

00:57:43.840 So talk to me about, because you were assistant to the DNI.

00:57:49.440 Is that right?

00:57:50.060 I was deputy director of national intelligence.

00:57:52.840 Yes.

00:57:53.100 Okay.

00:57:54.380 And that gives you access to all of the spy agencies and intelligence agencies.

00:58:00.160 That's right.

00:58:01.140 The DNI oversees the 18 agencies, the alphabet soup of agencies, EIA, NSA, you name it all.

00:58:07.580 That's right.

00:58:08.400 So what was your takeaway from that?

00:58:11.000 I know in your book you talk about walking in and seeing all over trans lives or human lives.

00:58:16.880 And this is back in, what, 2016?

00:58:19.880 So this was, yeah, this was 2020, actually.

00:58:22.820 So it was the last part of the administration.

00:58:25.960 Man, I had a lot of takeaways from it.

00:58:28.160 On one hand, that job compared to my West Wing job where I was a communications aide, I enjoyed it more in some ways because I wasn't having to argue with the White House press corps all day about tweets and the other dumb things that they focus on all the time.

00:58:44.280 So that was a benefit of it.

00:58:45.960 Also gained an appreciation for, you know, some of the real heroes that we have who are serving in those agencies who are trying to protect the country, but also gained a more disturbing appreciation for the things that you mentioned.

00:59:04.900 The power of the diversity, equity, inclusion office in CIA and how it basically bullies people into submission and is pushing these, you know, social agendas.

00:59:17.260 And you're right.

00:59:17.760 The first time I walk into CIA, I will never forget turning a corner to walk into the cafeteria at CIA and there's a giant trans lives or human lives poster hanging on the wall and being struck by someone here took time out of their job, which is protecting the country to hand make this poster and hang it here.

00:59:40.000 And, you know, again, there are a lot of people in the IC who do just want to protect Americans national security.

00:59:48.000 But, you know, then you see things like, you know, recently, a few months ago, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence published an op ed internally by a current intelligence officer discussing how being a cross dresser somehow makes him better at his job.

01:00:05.100 And the Biden administration has even made various DEI benchmarks, one of their top goals in what's called the National Intelligence Strategy, which is our entire strategy on how we approach intelligence gathering and analysis in this country.

01:00:22.560 It's one of their top, top goals.

01:00:24.700 And even in the wake of the Chinese spy balloon traversing the continental United States, that same internal magazine from ODNI was devoted to, quote, the importance of words, like making sure no one's feelings are hurt by the word choices that analysts might use when they're writing about the CCP.

01:00:41.300 So this is the kind of stuff that, given the opportunity to come back in, when President Trump comes back in, I think he's going to have a real opportunity to put some leadership in place in those agencies who will get their focus back where it needs to be, which is on American national security, protecting the American people, you know, and China.

01:01:03.940 Number one, number one, first and foremost, our real number one national security threat, not global warming, not a lack of DEI, China is where our focus needs to be. 0.76

01:01:13.460 And it's going to be a big opportunity in the next administration.

01:01:15.860 So maybe we'll have you back on again, because I really want to go into the doomsday bunkers and what's in the nuclear football.

01:01:21.700 It's all in your book.

01:01:23.180 But I want to ask you, why did you name the book The Darkness Has Not Overcome?

01:01:31.000 Yeah, it's a great question.

01:01:33.500 Thank you for asking it.

01:01:34.720 It comes from the Gospel of John 1.5.

01:01:36.960 The light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not overcome it.

01:01:40.480 We're facing persecution and increasingly secular culture. 0.97

01:01:44.900 Our politics feel broken and divisive, and we should be fighting for what we believe.

01:01:50.440 But we also shouldn't get discouraged because the light will not be overcome.

01:01:54.680 That's a promise that we can take to the bank.

01:01:56.700 And this book is all about those stories that you're talking about right now, taking you into rooms that you couldn't see otherwise, wouldn't know what's going on in otherwise.

01:02:06.100 But they also give a takeaway from each of those stories straight out of the Bible for how they could apply, lessons that could apply to anyone's life.

01:02:14.940 And honestly, Glenn, part of me wanting to write the book was I have a really difficult time in my own personal life sticking with a devotional.

01:02:21.960 And so I basically wrote a book.

01:02:24.960 It's not a devotional, but it has some elements of it that is like what I would want to read.

01:02:28.660 Give me an amazing story from inside the halls of power, but then give me a biblical takeaway that can actually impact my life no matter what I'm doing.

01:02:36.820 I love that.

01:02:38.160 Cliff, I hope we get the chance to meet again in person and see each other again in person.

01:02:42.860 I admire the effort on this book and what you're doing.

01:02:49.120 Thank you so much.

01:02:50.080 We'd love to come back on any time.

01:02:51.480 You bet.

01:02:52.040 Thank you.

01:02:52.520 Cliff Sims, the name of the book is The Darkness Has Not Overcome.

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