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Glenn and Sarah discuss the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Flight 370, the Octopus Murders, and the possibility that the CIA has a secret weapon that can make wormholes. Plus, Preborn, a non-profit organization that helps moms and their babies, offers free ultrasounds to help save lives.
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I mean, it kind of turned into a really weird...
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It was a really weird experience, a rollercoaster ride, but a fun one most of the time.
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What were we talking about in hour number one of the podcast?
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Oh, octopus murder, which kind of takes you into this place because tomorrow's podcast is about the octopus murders.
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And I have the actual journalist who I think is nuts for doing it and the filmmaker.
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And if you don't know what the octopus murders is, it's on Netflix.
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Watch it and then watch tomorrow's podcast that comes out.
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I really don't know what to believe, what not to believe.
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And it's this crazy 50-year-old, 40-year-old story that's still going on today.
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And we can fill your entire Netflix queue for three months with just that one hour of programming today.
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Because there's lots of great shows to mention.
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Yeah, and then the second hour, we had a guy on.
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I mean, every time you say, that would never happen, they're locking America down.
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This is the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Flight 370.
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Do we have a weapon or a device that can now make wormholes?
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I know this sounds nuts, but wait until you listen to it, and especially if you watch the podcast.
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And then hour three, we have Cliff Sims on, who was at the White House.
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He tells us crazy stories about the CIA and everything else.
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All the way down to robot dogs with flamethrowers strapped to their back that you can buy.
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Mother's Day is fast upon us, and I want to talk about Preborn, maybe the organization out there who cares about moms the most.
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Preborn offers expecting moms free ultrasounds.
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When a young mother who's in distress about her pregnancy comes in, those ultrasounds can change the chances that she will choose life.
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They don't just abandon her the moment after she gives birth.
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But Preborn goes on to help that mother out for two years afterwards, showing her and the baby God's love and our love.
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This Mother's Day, why not help bring life to both mom and her baby?
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A donation of $1,000, $2,000, or even $20,000 would save so many lives.
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You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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And it is officially on my list of series to watch.
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Yeah, my list is like, when did I want to watch that?
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Some of them I don't even remember what they were.
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It is one of these things that you really don't have any idea whether what is being investigated is real or not.
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And the more they go, the more you're like, this all sounds so plausible.
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This is, I mean, and it's deep, deep, deep corruption in our government.
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And it's about a guy who, I don't even know, 20 years ago was investigating, back in the 1980s, so even farther than that.
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It was during the Reagan administration, and there was this new software that was being developed, and the Justice Department got involved.
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And it was this software that could help, what is it called?
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And it was this software that investigators could put things into the computer and say, oh, we're working on this case, and this is what happened in court, and it would correlate everything.
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So if you're working on a case at the FBI, you could type in, you know, the people involved and everything else, and it would pull all of the information in to one source, and you'd be going, oh, well, Fred's working on the same kind of thing, too.
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And you could coordinate throughout the whole country.
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And so the company that was creating this, it was just gangbusters, okay?
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And then the government got involved and said, we want you to build this for the government.
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And the government got involved and promised this company all kinds of money and everything else.
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They developed it, and then the government didn't pay the bill and said, yeah, we're not going to, we're not going to, we're not going to, we're not going to use this.
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And they were like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, we just did all this stuff for you.
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Put them out of business after somebody approached them and said, I think you want to sell your business to me.
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You want, you want to sell your business to me.
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Next thing they know, government doesn't, and they're wiped out.
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About a year later, the software shows up in Canada, and it's being used by Canada and their, I believe it was their spy agencies, okay, under a different name.
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What happened, they think, is that the United States used this, brought this into Intel and everything else, then gave it to our allies, and then started selling it to our enemies as well, but not from us, okay?
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It's the same system, but not the, not named promise.
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So now the agencies on both our enemy list and our friends, we were spying on them.
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And we could know exactly what they were working on, who they were tying, I mean, all of this stuff.
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And it just starts to spiral out of control, and this guy, he's a journalist, and he starts seeing this, and he's starting to put it together.
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It is one of those things that you're like, wait, wait, wait.
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And as he started to learn what was going on, every bit of it sounds like, yes, that's what our government would do.
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It goes into the arms for, you know, the hostages for arms, what was it, the Iran-Contra.
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It goes into that, it ties that kind of in, shows that the arms were made or packaged by the U.S. government, but they went to an Indian reservation,
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where the native territory outside of the United States, but right inside the United States, showed how they built this casino, laundered all kinds of money, killing people there.
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So this guy, he goes, he says he has one more piece, and he's told all along.
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He gets phone calls, and he's like, I don't think you want to ask these questions.
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You're not going to be, it's not going to be good.
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So he's got one more question, and that's the one that everybody's like, I'm telling you, don't ask that question.
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He gets a guy that says, I'll tell you this piece of information and meet me here in this small town on this day, and we'll talk.
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Look, he goes, he tells his brother before, if something happens to me, it's not an accident, okay?
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He cuts his wrists so deeply that he cuts the tendons, okay?
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Now, that would explain one cut on one wrist, but if you do that on one wrist, how do you then use your hand to do it on the other wrist, okay?
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He cut himself like 12 times deeply, so deeply, the hands didn't, okay?
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And then there's like bloody prints all over the walls and stuff, and you're like, this doesn't seem like a suicide, okay?
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Everybody walked in and said, whoa, something bad happened here.
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Years later, another journalist, he reads about this guy, and he's like, I wonder what that was all about, okay?
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And he picks the thing up, and he's now talking to the, this is where the documentary picks up.
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He's now talking to the same people who are like, you don't want to ask those questions, okay?
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All of the same people, some of the really spooky people that were clearly with the government are dead now, or at least thought to be dead.
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I asked them in the interview today that you can find on Blaze TV, do you believe they're dead?
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And there were several things that I asked them, and they're like, no, we're not going to, we're not going to go there.
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You're left watching this documentary, honestly not knowing what to believe.
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You're watching and you're like, I think this is real, but everybody, and because they talk about it, conspiracy theories, when there's a conspiracy, the government will set up people that will tell you half-truths, and the other half is nonsense.
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So you blur the lines on everything, so you're not sure what's true and what's not.
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It's a view into how our government really works, like you've never seen before.
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Now, this is the filmmaker, or the journalist, and the filmmaker.
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They've been best friends since they were kids.
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The filmmaker came to the journalist at one point and said, dude, intervention.
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And he said, at one point, I realized my friend wasn't going to stop, and I was concerned about
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And so I got into it with him and just said, okay, let me hear it all.
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He said, and I was like, I think you might be right.
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And so he got into it with him, both knowing they could die.
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He seemed like, he just seemed very confident that things happen and nobody's going to question
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me, and okay, maybe I've killed people, maybe I, I mean, he just, he had that air about him
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Is that what you guys, I keep, I'm like, which door is he going to come out of?
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I think, I think he's, I think he might still be alive.
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So, if he's still spooky at 80, if he's alive, he's still spooky.
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That guy, was he the, who's the scariest person that you encountered?
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So, we didn't meet him, but we have a lot of documents and things like that.
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We talked to a lot of people who did know him, and Sherry, when, you know, who we interviewed,
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has an amazing story about going to his apartment, which I think is, is, you know.
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So, Sherry Seymour investigated mainly the West, the West Coast portion of, of the octopus,
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Um, and she met with, she started working on it about three months after Danny died, and
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she was calling all of his sources, much like Christian did.
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And Robert Booth Nichols is one of, is a guy who Danny talked to extensively on the phone
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and met in person and was, you know, I would say a suspect in Danny's death.
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Um, and so she went over to his apartment to ask him about these things.
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And amazingly, he agreed, and he was there with his wife.
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And, uh, at the end of that meeting, he shows her this tape, puts on this tape, which, um,
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I think they were talking about sort of the manipulability of reality and what, and perception
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And, um, he, he, it's the Zapruder film, the JFK assassination film.
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Um, and he is playing it, and then it's, it's not the one that you've seen before.
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It's the one where the driver turns around and shoots JFK in the head.
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When, when the Zapruder film isn't, you couldn't just like go on the internet and watch it immediately.
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And that tape, he says, is the, the one that everybody's seen on the media.
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And he pauses it and there's a half of a tree missing.
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And he says, this is the, the one everybody's seen has actually been manipulated.
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And what his point was just to confuse her and she would later go back to her friends
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When you have the internet, there's no tree missing.
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She sounded like a lunatic because both were fake that she saw him or that she saw with
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It's, it's an incredible, they show the, they show the, the whole scene.
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Like if I haven't watched the series yet, do I want to watch the series then watch this
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What's your, I think you could listen to the interview and, uh, and find out, you know,
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I think it's better if you listen to, I intentionally did not, it's a three hour documentary.
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Took, we, we watched in three nights, uh, three or four.
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And, um, you really don't know what turn is next.
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So I don't explain, we don't go through the whole thing.
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We just go into the things, if you've watched it or you could listen to this and you will
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be fascinated by it and you'll want to watch it, but I don't think there's any spoiler.
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There's just too much to cover, uh, that you just, it's remarkable.
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It's called the octopus murders and, uh, it's on Netflix and the interview with the really
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So brave, uh, and his best friend filmmaker, uh, the interview is available now came out
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last night for blaze TV subscribers and will be available, uh, on tomorrow on Saturday, wherever
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So is it, is it safe to say, I mean, I don't even know how to approach this.
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You seem to know enough about science that you can pull this off with credibility.
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But at, at some point did even you say this can't be.
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This whole investigation started with probably the two most incredible videos in the history
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Uh, you have to be your own harshest critic when you are dealing with something that is
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Uh, but if you go to the Sherlock Holmes quote is once you eliminate the impossible, whatever
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remains, no matter how improbable must be the truth.
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So I've heard that you're a skeptical related to this, and I'm sure a lot of people listening
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So what I want to do with you here today is I want to deconstruct the lie.
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I want to talk about what really happened with MH370.
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And then I want to talk about the leaker and the science of what it means for us as a civilization.
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Well, so the first thing I want to ask you, Glenn, and everybody else is out there is
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what do you think happened to MH370, you know, and based on what evidence is the strongest
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evidence in your mind, based on what you've heard from the media, what have you.
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Uh, and then the last question is, you know, how does a plane crash into the ocean without
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So, and I don't mean this to put you on the spot, but I just want to understand how
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Quite honestly, I didn't pay that much attention to it because I was concerned about other
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Uh, it kind of took like a left hand turn for some reason.
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They followed it for a while and then it just kind of went into the drink they thought.
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And I thought that they had found some debris, uh, washing up on maybe the African shore,
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And so what a lot of people think out there is that this was some kind of suicidal pilot
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who took the plane to the middle of nowhere and somehow landed it softly in the ocean for
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some inexplicable reason that you don't do during a suicidal route.
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Um, and what I want to tell those people is that this narrative out there is a complete
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We searched along the seventh arc, which is where we have these satellite things where
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supposedly we know exactly along this arc where the plane crashed and we didn't find
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Uh, there is about 1500 pounds of foam on the seats of these planes that should have
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Uh, the, the suicide narrative, I call it the myth has been completely debunked.
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This guy was supported by his family, his coworkers, all the officials, the officials have ruled
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I don't think they necessarily turn off all the APUs, the power generators, uh, within the
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64 seconds from the last communication, people think that he had some kind of route that he
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It was actually just MH one to five zero to Jetta from Kuala Lumpur.
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And if you look at the flight path, it's exactly the same as, uh, what that flight path is.
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He was actually slated to fly that on February 4th and the simulation data is from February 2nd.
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So clearly he was just practicing that route out there.
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Um, we know beyond any shadow of a doubt that the United States government knows what happened
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And the way we know that is because they have something called SIBRS space-based infrared
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It's always scanning the earth all the time with geostationary satellites.
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And they've now incorporated mid earth orbit and low earth orbit satellites into it.
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It can produce a Google earth 3d video playback capability that integrates real Google earth as
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And it's used ground-based computer systems to pull data from these satellites where someone
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can just log in, pull up location and, and track objects.
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Now it's official purposes for tracking missiles, but not a lot of missiles get shot up all the
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So you can imagine how very easily it could be used to track boats, planes, et cetera.
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So if you Google it, you can find a video of it out there on Lockheed Martin's YouTube channel.
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Uh, when you look at it, you can see that these satellites are scanning the whole world.
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All the time, persistent, global, persistent, infrared surveillance.
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That's the very first words in the video itself.
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Um, and there's no way that this system wouldn't have caught a rogue seven, seven, seven flying
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for eight hours, uh, as well as SOSA system, which is the sound surveillance system.
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This is the one that actually heard the Titan sub implode off the, off the Titanic, uh, last
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And if it can hear a tiny sub implode, then there's no chance it wouldn't hear a seven,
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Diego Garcia and Western Australia have hydrophones that should have heard this crash and they should
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have been able to pinpoint that just like they did the Titan sub, uh, that we know the
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Navy has no problem lying about it because they lied about the Titan sub for five days.
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All the, you know, mainstream media news stations saying how much oxygen do they have left?
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People don't even realize that radar systems are not limited to line of sight.
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They actually have something called over the horizon radar, which bounces off the ionosphere
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So not only is the JORN, the Jindali operational radar network from Australia have this, but
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also most likely without almost any doubt, the Diego Garcia military base in the Indian
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ocean, as well as the Pine Gap American base in Australia, all three of these systems should
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have had radar capability to track the plane from takeoff to wherever it supposedly landed
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Um, in addition to that, we found spy satellite USA 229.
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It's a naval ocean surveillance, uh, satellite that's run by the Navy, uh, has a sister satellite
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right next to it, capable of potentially taking 3d stereoscopic, uh, imagery using their sensors
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that was right in the Malacca Straits at 1840 UTC on March 7th, 2014, staring right down
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at the coordinates that we see in the MH370 satellite video.
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Now, in addition to that, you asked, uh, and the one thing I want to say first is that
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the Malaysian minister of defense as well, he says in an interview seven weeks later after
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the plane disappears, that they knew the plane was not hostile.
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And that's why they didn't send up jets to track the plane.
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And you ask yourself, how could you know that a rogue 777 with no communications is not hostile?
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You couldn't, they must've had communications with the plane.
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So this begs the question where communications classified from us that they didn't want to
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release because they would give up what really occurred on this plane.
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Actually, the story that I'm putting forth is the only one consistent with the debris washing
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It's actually impossible for almost all of the debris to have washed up in Africa from
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the supposed crash site off the coast of Australia.
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No one's seen the piece of this together, but it couldn't have gone to Russia.
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It couldn't have been shot down over the South trying to see if that's the case.
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And even that crash site down there, the very first debris drift models they put together,
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they threw some boards in the water, immediately found out it was impossible for the debris to
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have even gotten to the reunion island, let alone to South Africa.
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So then they get a flapper on from the United States and they say, okay, let's throw this
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in the water and then they go, yep, okay, this is good enough.
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It'll get to the reunion island, but they don't realize that they have the flapper on
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sticking out of the water, but the part that's sticking out of the water has barnacles all
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over it, which means that had to be submerged, which means that, and they need that because
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they need the wind to blow on it so that it would drift to that location.
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In addition to that, they look at those barnacles and they find out that the barnacles only have
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four months of growth on them, as opposed to the 16 months since the plane disappeared.
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Four months is not enough time for that thing to have drifted 2,000 miles.
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And if you look at the CNN list of what the debris is out there, you'll find a piece of
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engine cowling that's listed on there, which clearly has an RR of Rolls-Royce.
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This shows up in South Africa, 3,000 miles away, literally impossible for it to have floated
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And if you look at the currents in that area down there in South Indian Ocean, they actually
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The debris, if this plane crashes somewhere down there, the debris should have washed
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So we can conclusively say that there is essentially no way that this plane could have, A, crashed
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down there in South Indian Ocean, and B, we know with the United States that they must
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If this were happening in real time, the first thing, because it's going off path and it's
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off path for eight hours, you would say that jets would be scrambled.
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It was a hostile because, I mean, that's logical to think.
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If they thought this guy was on a suicide path or a suicide mission, at least the defense
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of the world in all countries would do everything they can to lock on to that.
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So that gives credence to the sound, you know, the hydrophonic sound being activated, the
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infrared, the satellites, everything would have been just routinely locked on to a Rogue 777.
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And especially because people are afraid that they're going to go flying to the Patronus
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So, I mean, this is like a post 9-11 world we're talking about here.
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So the other thing, too, is that if that plane didn't crash in the South Indian Ocean, it
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begs the question, were those satellite pins correct or not?
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And if those satellite pins were not correct or misinterpreted or something, now this plane
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The problem is the official narrative has it running out of fuel.
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And they say that these satellite pins indicate exactly where it ran out of fuel, and that's
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If those satellite pins are incorrect, then you throw out all the pilot suicide narrative.
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You throw out everything up to where this plane turned into the South Indian Ocean, and that's
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And it turns out we have two videos, and one of those is called Satellite Video Airliner and
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And in the bottom left of that video, it has coordinates.
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That's the first launch of the Cibir system in 2006.
00:30:05.980
Right next to it has coordinates that are accurate to six decimal places that shift when
00:30:14.020
That location is the exact location where they say this plane turned into the South Indian
00:30:18.720
Now, one more thing I want to say, just to conclusively prove this plane didn't crash in the
00:30:22.480
Nineteen family members signed a joint statement saying that the phones were still ringing for
00:30:29.300
One of them even proved it on national television.
00:30:34.140
So we also have to wonder why the White House was calling the Malaysian government every single
00:30:39.980
It's not because they cared about Philip Wood, the one American passenger on board this
00:30:44.400
They were calling because they were trying to set up a cover story.
00:30:48.620
That's why when you remember back to it, you go, well, we were looking at the South China
00:30:51.460
Sea, and then they say, well, now it turned over the peninsula of Malaysia, which that
00:30:55.660
should have been obvious from the beginning if they had radar of that from their military
00:30:59.940
And then they say, OK, well, now it made another turn, flew over Penang, the closest airport
00:31:04.580
that you would go to, and goes to the Nicobar Islands, and then makes a sharp turn into the
00:31:09.280
And that narrative came from United States intelligence sources, unnamed sources, on March 13th,
00:31:18.880
They were trying to develop a cover story for something that happened that they didn't
00:31:30.240
So, and the beauty is we don't even really need the MH370 videos to show that something
00:31:36.860
We've got 20 freescale semiconductor scientists and engineers on board this plane.
00:31:41.160
Far too many people for one plane to be out there.
00:31:44.800
Like my company, instead of the rules, like only two to three people.
00:31:47.220
And these are people with highly advanced technical knowledge.
00:31:50.380
Now, the reason why these people are the motive is because when you look at advanced
00:31:54.400
technology, the two major things that are at the cutting edge right now are plasma physics
00:31:59.600
and semiconductors, superconductors, superconductivity.
00:32:04.420
When you look at stuff like AI, quantum computers, they all use superconductive microchips.
00:32:11.400
And these microchips have been getting more and more advanced.
00:32:13.140
They had just released a microchip that was smaller than the dimple in a golf ball.
00:32:17.900
In fact, we found a Lockheed Martin patent for a coherent matter wave beam, which is
00:32:22.800
It's a transducer, something that converts energy from one type to another.
00:32:26.160
That's exactly what we need in order to create the type of anti-gravity effects that we are
00:32:33.480
And that patent from Lockheed Martin was out in 2013.
00:32:42.820
So when you look at this and you ask, why would you do this?
00:32:46.560
Right away, you have to look at those free scale semiconductor employees.
00:32:54.520
And the number one target for intellectual property espionage theft is actually foreign nationals
00:33:04.740
It costs the United States and American companies roughly $600 billion per year.
00:33:10.660
So I think that there's two different scenarios that I think are plausible here.
00:33:14.480
One is that somebody was on this plane that wanted to be rescued, a VIP, or however you
00:33:21.900
And the United States intervened because they're the ones filming this.
00:33:25.420
Or the other way that you could look at it is that this is a counter espionage operation,
00:33:32.900
They were going to give China some very powerful intellectual property.
00:33:37.680
And the United States said, no, we're going to go ahead and just, you know, have that plan
00:33:46.700
We're going to take a break in just a couple of minutes and we'll get to what the film is
00:33:53.720
But before we get there, tell me how do you just dismiss the pings, the location pings?
00:34:03.160
So I've looked at the satellite pings myself, probably one of the only people that actually
00:34:07.500
And when you get up to 1840, right before 1840, there's only two phone calls made to
00:34:16.200
Again, why would it be unanswered if we supposedly are trying to reach communication with them?
00:34:21.000
And why would we not call them more often if they don't pick up?
00:34:24.200
And then after that, there's only 10 rows of data.
00:34:26.520
So before that, there's hundreds of rows of data.
00:34:29.520
And after that, just 10 rows of data for this plane is supposedly going to the South
00:34:35.580
I talked to the experts from the independent group.
00:34:38.580
Nobody can give me a logical explanation for why the data changes like this.
00:34:42.380
So the difference between this plane ending in the Nicobar Islands and the South Indian
00:34:45.920
Ocean is 10 rows of data on an Excel spreadsheet.
00:34:53.140
If you've got a Rogue's 777 going out there, it might be hijacked, what have you.
00:35:00.060
And the real story of what happened to this plane is that there was a fire event related
00:35:07.160
Two stacks of it were in the forward cargo bay right next to the equipment center, the
00:35:15.820
We have Mike McKay sees it on fire from his oil rig.
00:35:18.860
Nine witnesses along the coast hear loud noises at the exact same time this fire starts.
00:35:25.380
You've got eight fishermen on a boat who see the plane 10 minutes later.
00:35:29.100
It's also been corroborated now that the plane did an emergency descent right after it turned
00:35:33.680
Consistent with what you do during a fire event to get more oxygen into the plane for the
00:35:39.200
So before we get into this next segment, I want to make it really clear that I have
00:35:45.160
no idea what's real or not anymore on some things.
00:35:48.720
I have no idea what our government's capable of, not capable of.
00:35:55.120
This sounds so unbelievable, but I don't know all the technology.
00:36:02.100
I don't know enough to be able to say this isn't true.
00:36:05.420
Um, but I'm also not, don't know enough to say it is true.
00:36:11.620
I thought, I thought we'd have some fun by looking at something that I don't know might
00:36:18.100
I know that Ashton Forbes has done his homework.
00:36:21.320
He's an intelligent human being, um, and knows the science behind all of this and may be
00:36:31.680
He told me half an hour ago, he kind of feels like every day he's like, I don't know.
00:36:37.320
So we're about to show some video here, Ashton, um, of, of the plane and what you, this is
00:36:44.740
the main thing that you say, uh, needs to be looked at.
00:36:50.640
Tell me about the video, what we're about to hear and see, uh, and, and where we got
00:37:00.940
So this video has been on the internet since 2014.
00:37:03.520
Uh, we've been able to trace it back to an account called Regicide and non, uh, the
00:37:07.940
very first video satellite video was says received March 12th, 2014 source protected.
00:37:18.100
This is nine days before the raw telemetry data, those satellite pings were first available
00:37:24.780
Uh, and that's why it's so important when we see those coordinates in the bottom left.
00:37:27.900
Uh, the second video was supposedly received June 5th, 2014 published June 12th, 2014 on
00:37:37.960
A lot of people have said that they saw it back in 2014.
00:37:45.100
I think it's only in 2023, 2024, that we can even begin to understand that what we see
00:37:50.840
there is potentially real because science on the public side is slowly catching up.
00:37:55.600
These private defense contractors, they know this stuff is real and that's how far ahead
00:38:01.020
So they are potentially 50 or a hundred years beyond what the public might think is possible.
00:38:05.360
We had a $150,000 bounty for the hoaxer to come forward with proof of their source work.
00:38:10.780
Uh, you know, because somebody didn't make these with just one shot.
00:38:13.980
It would have taken lots of time and effort to put these together.
00:38:16.220
There's not one discrepancy on a single frame in either video, no errors anywhere.
00:38:21.380
The clouds actually do move and evolve in the satellite video.
00:38:24.820
People don't think that they do because they don't realize how far away the satellites are
00:38:29.100
potentially from the earth and how each perspective is only a few seconds.
00:38:33.020
The zap of the satellite video accurately illuminates the volumetric clouds in three dimensions.
00:38:38.540
Uh, there's no reference copy to copy any of this from, which is a prerequisite for producing
00:38:44.060
CGI because we have two videos from different perspectives that are perfectly in sync with
00:38:49.020
And you can see the same clouds and even triangulate the drone position.
00:38:51.980
This would require a full 3d rendered environment using hardware and software from before 2014.
00:38:57.000
This also predates all commercial AI as well as, um, deepfake technology.
00:39:02.980
So if people think that you could recreate this, I guarantee you, this is not some simple
00:39:09.300
Now, even more important than that, the details in the videos are scientifically accurate.
00:39:13.180
What we're looking at here is something called macroscopic phase conjugation.
00:39:16.560
It is essentially functionally equivalent to Star Trek warp drive.
00:39:19.760
Um, this is science that would be consistent with what Tesla had put forth and other people
00:39:25.080
like Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Bearden in the eighties.
00:39:28.020
Uh, the simplest thing that explanation I could give is that there is an extra dimension
00:39:31.660
that we do not perceive that our reality is painted onto.
00:39:35.140
We're going to bring back the term, the ether, which is something that, uh, Tesla promoted.
00:39:39.240
This was how we get the negative energy requirement that we need in order for a wormhole to exist.
00:39:44.060
Uh, the macroscopic phase conjugation using something called mixed wave interferometry, it's very
00:39:50.100
similar to holography in terms of making a hologram.
00:39:53.360
Uh, we have our three pump waves, which is our zero point system that we see with our orbs
00:39:58.980
And then we have a fourth orb that we do not see on the screen here, which is essentially
00:40:05.920
And then it gets a perfectly reflected beam going back the other direction.
00:40:09.300
So essentially we are creating a gravitational wave here through electro, uh, magnetics.
00:40:14.740
And then we are having this, uh, plane flingshot, like pulling on a rubber band and letting go
00:40:28.600
I think it could go as far back as 1943 in the Philadelphia experiment, maybe even the
00:40:34.640
But what I want people to know is that Tesla was right.
00:40:37.740
Uh, the event that we see in the thermal is an endothermic event.
00:40:43.240
This is again, consistent with what Thomas Bearden promoted in the eighties, talking about
00:40:47.040
cold explosions, absorbing energy from one location and having to reappear somewhere else.
00:40:53.240
Um, this may even be the first endothermic event ever recorded as far as I know.
00:40:58.200
Now, basically what you're talking about is we're making a wormhole, right?
00:41:04.720
And so this goes back to an idea, um, that has been promoted by Einstein.
00:41:10.060
Einstein, uh, or ER equals EPR, uh, Leonard Susskind and Juan Naldacena have promoted this,
00:41:15.620
uh, which is the idea that an Einstein-Rosen bridge or wormhole could be consistent with
00:41:20.080
Einstein-Kaldoski-Rosen, which is quantum entanglement.
00:41:22.940
We know we can teleport, uh, quantum information that's already been proven, but the idea is how
00:41:29.980
Juan Naldacena has actually recently in the last four years promoted, uh, humanly traversable
00:41:36.800
So the idea that you could go through a wormhole and you're not going to rip to shreds.
00:41:40.020
In fact, we were just looking recently on my live streams, two different defense intelligence
00:41:44.060
agency papers, one called warp drive, dark energy, and manipulation of extra dimensions.
00:41:49.560
And the other one called traversable wormholes, stargates, and negative energy.
00:41:53.960
Both of these papers pretty much lay out exactly what we see in those videos.
00:41:57.920
And the only thing that people are confused about is where, how do you get the negative
00:42:02.220
Well, once you add the idea of the ether and we get rid of all this quantum fluctuations
00:42:06.660
and, um, virtual particles that physicists talk about now, that's just the ether with extra
00:42:12.400
So we just go back to the idea of having an ether.
00:42:15.000
And if you have a high enough energy intensity, you break through the Schwinger limit.
00:42:19.060
And now the, our kind of local space time becomes non-linear.
00:42:28.180
I'm sure you're way over everybody else's head, but I wanted you to show you, you're,
00:42:32.280
you're not an idiot, uh, when it comes to, to science.
00:42:39.900
It's the blue video with the heat signature of the plane, which is, is that the satellite
00:42:48.640
So the satellite video is going to be the, the white and kind of blue one.
00:42:51.600
And we believe this is happening at night and it's, you know, false color IR in the,
00:42:56.220
And then in the, in the drone video, it's thermal.
00:42:58.380
So we see the, in the, in the thermal video, the drone video, we see one object, round object
00:43:05.740
coming to the plane and then kind of making a weird kind of path around the plane.
00:43:10.400
Then two others come and they, they triangulate the plane and spin quickly around the center
00:43:21.280
So what they do right away is they're spinning around it in a spherical formation.
00:43:25.540
This is clearly mapping the plane to some degree.
00:43:28.040
My guess is what they're doing is they're trying to figure out how big the mouth of the
00:43:31.500
wormhole needs to be to encompass the entire plane.
00:43:33.580
Uh, so they can produce the exact right amount of energy that's necessary.
00:43:36.920
And then they actually reorient, uh, about halfway through, and then they begin to go
00:43:40.980
vertical around the plane in a ring formation, which if you look at the right hand rule in
00:43:45.780
electro, um, electrical engineering, you'll find that then the vector, uh, based on this
00:43:51.140
would be backwards, which when this dark event happens, actually, you can see we've overlaid
00:43:56.800
The plane slightly moves backwards into this wormhole as well.
00:44:00.480
So this is actually also consistent with electrical engineering principles.
00:44:07.960
And I, I mean, I would urge people to want to know more to go to your website and, and
00:44:13.720
Um, but these three things open up and then there's this like black blotch.
00:44:23.540
So this is technically what we're looking at there is a cold event, an endothermic event,
00:44:28.860
So I would argue that what we're looking at there is the mouth of the wormhole.
00:44:32.540
And if you want to think of it as in layman's terms, what you think is you're, you're ripping
00:44:37.660
So if you think of our reality as a painting, you're ripping the painting off and you're
00:44:41.260
looking at the underlying canvas there and it's quickly closing up again, right after.
00:44:47.420
It's like a black and white or black and blue and, and white kind of, you see the clouds,
00:44:53.840
And this is secret, uh, this is our satellite tracking system.
00:45:01.100
So we don't look through satellites individually anymore.
00:45:03.460
I mean, it's 2024, even in 2014, you know, we use ground-based computers and then they
00:45:07.260
can rebuild using ground-based computers and software, a tracking mechanism.
00:45:11.580
And that's how we're able to look at it like this without seeing the satellite move.
00:45:16.040
Uh, we, so, uh, and then what I was gonna say in the thermal video too, there was heat
00:45:20.340
signatures in the orbs as well, which is consistent with topological monopoles that was only publicly
00:45:25.800
available from the Alto university paper in 2015, a year after these videos as well.
00:45:31.780
So the science that we see in here, um, really wasn't even publicly available at the time when
00:45:36.860
these videos were, uh, released and made public.
00:45:39.660
And all of a sudden in the second video, you see the flash and the plane just disappear.
00:45:45.880
Now, this seems, this seems ridiculously, uh, unbelievable.
00:45:55.160
Cause just, I mean, it's just, you don't see it.
00:46:00.900
Um, but yeah, the science, uh, would show that it's possible, um, if you, if you play
00:46:14.720
And what I would say is that we are potentially looking at the most secret classified super
00:46:27.080
And people still think that nuclear weapons are the most powerful weapon we have.
00:46:30.080
No, the military has figured out a unification theory of quantum field mechanics and general
00:46:35.060
And now we have gravity manipulation and space time manipulation.
00:46:39.220
This type of weapon is unstoppable on this planet.
00:46:42.260
Whoever has this technology controls the planet.
00:46:45.340
This is why they want us talking about social issues and nobody looking at why kind of advanced
00:46:51.080
Why would we allow this to, why did we do this to this plane?
00:46:56.900
So you would say that the only logical explanation in my mind, this is a show of force.
00:47:02.260
We want to say, you're going to try to steal our guys, our guys that know how this technology
00:47:05.960
We got to make the microchips, potentially know the plasma physics in this case, the microchip
00:47:10.460
producers that what we see in these orbs here, that's a plasma field around the
00:47:15.260
If you look up hypersonic weapons, that's what you need to make a hypersonic weapon
00:47:18.980
work so that they can move the speeds at which they do is a plasma sheet around them.
00:47:26.000
And I guarantee that there are very advanced microchips within that small object as well.
00:47:31.080
And you could, so you could argue that those are the reasons why we're trying to do this.
00:47:34.760
And they didn't expect these videos to leak, of course, but they would expect China and
00:47:38.760
Russia to have their own satellites and they would have some idea of, well, what did somebody
00:47:46.140
If you try to do this again, we're going to zap you to wherever we need to.
00:47:50.860
But I agree, it's a huge risk to be filming this.
00:47:53.420
And I think that we've only developed this warp drive technology based on the papers, probably
00:48:01.200
So I don't think this was a test, but I also don't think that this technology has been out
00:48:07.620
I think that to get it to this point is probably relatively recently.
00:48:11.980
So let me, I've only got about a minute left and man, there's just so much to cover with
00:48:24.680
If you look up his case, he took a plea deal to go into prison for six years and a nine
00:48:29.440
His timeline of being the VP U2 wizard squadron is a spy plane program is from February 2014,
00:48:35.440
where he first gets investigated April 2nd, 2014.
00:48:39.220
The defense argued the classified information and questions available on the internet.
00:48:43.840
The VP squadron has deployments in Diego Garcia military base.
00:48:47.340
The military was afraid that if this case went to trial, they would have to show what the
00:48:51.680
information was that he leaked to damage national security so badly.
00:48:55.180
I FOIAed the NCIS and they rejected my FOIA in total to be kept secret in the interest of
00:49:02.620
And he was caught with flight manifests that include search and rescue code names as well.
00:49:06.700
So if anyone disbelieves or whatever, we have absolute proof that if you just go talk to
00:49:12.940
Lin, if we can get him to come forward and admit that he leaked these videos, if these
00:49:17.920
I gave this information to the AARO, the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office.
00:49:22.120
They responded back a couple of weeks ago saying, Mr. Forbes, my apologies for the slow response.
00:49:28.720
Some of AARO's initial research into MH370 has revealed the U.S.
00:49:32.820
government search efforts after the airliner disappeared from radar.
00:49:35.740
I believe the genesis and authenticity of the videos may be helpful.
00:49:39.540
Can you confirm the date the videos were posted to the Regicide and on YouTube channel?
00:49:42.900
And yes, a quick follow-up call may be helpful.
00:49:46.760
If these videos are real, they will be able to authenticate them.
00:49:51.560
Ashton, I honestly don't know what to think, but that's pretty much about everything right now.
00:50:00.920
All the people were most likely dead because of the fire, right?
00:50:08.200
So I always like to give the condolences to the family.
00:50:13.000
It wouldn't surprise me if they spew toxic smoke when they start on fire and kill everybody.
00:50:17.060
So even when we get to the zap, it's not looking great.
00:50:19.600
So I don't want to give anybody false hope out there.
00:50:21.780
What I do want to tell people is that if this is real, then free energy is real.
00:50:27.360
If you imagine the implications of free energy, you can see why they would hide this.
00:50:31.300
We have everything to gain from these videos and nothing to lose.
00:50:35.220
Yeah, that's really what caused the downfall of Tesla.
00:50:54.340
Check out the full show podcast to listen to the rest of this interview.
00:50:57.720
Cliff Sims, the author of Darkness Has Not Overcome, and former special assistant to President Trump.
00:51:06.160
And Cliff, I think right after the launch of GBTV, you were on, because I think you were in, maybe I have the wrong person, but I don't think I do.
00:51:17.220
You were involved with a Frederick Douglass something, and we were talking about that.
00:51:26.380
First TV interview I ever did in my entire life, I was chairman of the Alabama College Republicans, and we had a Frederick Douglass Republicans push going on at the time.
00:51:36.800
It coincided with what you were doing on the show, and you had me come on and talk about it.
00:51:55.560
First of all, what it was like being a part of the room and being a part of something as historic as moving the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
00:52:10.100
Yeah, well, there's so many incredible stories around that topic, but the one that I remember the most is actually the day after the president made good on that promise, which we kind of take for granted now.
00:52:23.940
But it was a really kind of an unbelievable moment, given that Bush, Obama, I mean, go down the list of presidents, Clinton, who had said they were going to do it, and then they didn't.
00:52:35.400
And it kind of came to this foregone conclusion.
00:52:37.780
Oh, well, you promised to do that on the campaign trail, and you don't do it.
00:52:40.580
Well, when we get in the room to start talking about it, and Trump's like, well, hold on just a second.
00:52:52.300
What was the pushback from the State Department alone?
00:52:56.860
Well, the pushback from the State Department, you know, pointy-headed experts over there, is really the same as what you heard from folks like Joe Biden, who said, you're going to bring the region to the brink of war.
00:53:10.120
You're going to spark mass chaos in the region, and they paint these kind of crazy scenarios of what was going to happen.
00:53:17.160
And right after the president did it, we walk out of the Oval, and we're in this part of the West Wing called the Outer Oval, right outside the Oval Office, and there's a TV on the wall.
00:53:27.420
And it's actually showing some of that chaos, some of the protests happening, which, frankly, at this point, look a lot like what we're seeing on college campuses around the country here in the United States.
00:53:41.080
But as we're watching it, the president's kind of just, you know, watching it unfold.
00:53:46.920
They're screaming, Trump, Trump, you will see, Palestine will be free, you know, things like that.
00:53:53.420
And I had this weird sense that I can only compare to – it's going to be kind of a strange comparison, but I think you'll get it.
00:54:02.080
If you see someone trip on the sidewalk and you look away because you don't want them to see that you saw it happen because you feel this kind of secondhand embarrassment for them,
00:54:11.640
it's not that the president had done anything wrong, don't get me wrong, it's just when you're watching someone endure that type of criticism and hatred being directed at them, it's kind of an uncomfortable moment.
00:54:24.900
The president's reaction, though, I will never forget.
00:54:28.240
He watched it, and then he looked at me and he said, okay, what's next?
00:54:33.200
As in, like, what's next on the schedule today?
00:54:35.380
It did not faze him one bit, and it stuck with me because I think it's a core operating principle I try to apply to my life that anybody should apply to their life is you have to make peace with being misunderstood.
00:54:49.240
The longer you're willing to be misunderstood, the bigger, more disruptive change you can deliver.
00:54:54.840
And Trump was fearless and unafraid of the criticism, unafraid of people saying his intentions were nefarious, whatever, if he felt like he was doing the right thing.
00:55:06.020
And I gained a lot of respect for that because you just don't see that among politicians in America these days.
00:55:11.260
Yeah, I have to tell you, I may disagree with his tweets or whatever.
00:55:19.580
I like him on what I have seen from him in real life, not in the media, not the showman, although, again, I enjoy the showman.
00:55:30.180
But he is a – I think he's an actual kind man that is who he is, knows who he is, and doesn't care about anything else.
00:55:45.920
And I've said it a million times, and people ask me at the same time, oh, my gosh, what's it like working for Trump and, you know, tweets and whatever it may be?
00:55:53.220
And I tell them, I'm just telling you right now, you cannot walk in a room with Donald Trump, no matter what your preconceived ideas are, and walk out not liking him.
00:56:02.840
He's going to make you feel like the most important person in the room.
00:56:12.560
Yeah, and you always can tell the measure of a man by how they treat the lowest person in the room.
00:56:18.680
When I was out at Mar-a-Lago and we were shooting something, you know, you don't go to Mar-a-Lago, you don't look like a bum.
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But, you know, we had the lighting people there that were just contractors, and, you know, my staff was there, and they were just going into this one room, and then they were going to break down and go away.
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And so they weren't, you know, they weren't dressed like I was dressed.
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And Trump said to me after the deal, he said, what are you doing for dinner?
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And I said, I think we're probably going to McDonald's.
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Why don't you come have dinner with us at Mar-a-Lago?
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I mean, he cares about the lowest person on the ladder, which somebody, like, at that level usually doesn't.
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You know, he introduces himself to everybody that can't affect him at all.
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The most famous person in the world is going to introduce himself to someone when they walk up to him.
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And this is the side of him that you don't see in the media.
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I mean, I can't even tell you how many times at Mar-a-Lago I have seen with no cameras around.
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And he'll see people that are working there in various capacities at the big events and things.
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And he'll walk up and take out his wallet and hand them $100 and say, great job tonight.
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So talk to me about, because you were assistant to the DNI.
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I was deputy director of national intelligence.
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And that gives you access to all of the spy agencies and intelligence agencies.
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The DNI oversees the 18 agencies, the alphabet soup of agencies, EIA, NSA, you name it all.
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I know in your book you talk about walking in and seeing all over trans lives or human lives.
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On one hand, that job compared to my West Wing job where I was a communications aide, I enjoyed it more in some ways because I wasn't having to argue with the White House press corps all day about tweets and the other dumb things that they focus on all the time.
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Also gained an appreciation for, you know, some of the real heroes that we have who are serving in those agencies who are trying to protect the country, but also gained a more disturbing appreciation for the things that you mentioned.
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The power of the diversity, equity, inclusion office in CIA and how it basically bullies people into submission and is pushing these, you know, social agendas.
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The first time I walk into CIA, I will never forget turning a corner to walk into the cafeteria at CIA and there's a giant trans lives or human lives poster hanging on the wall and being struck by someone here took time out of their job, which is protecting the country to hand make this poster and hang it here.
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And, you know, again, there are a lot of people in the IC who do just want to protect Americans national security.
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But, you know, then you see things like, you know, recently, a few months ago, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence published an op ed internally by a current intelligence officer discussing how being a cross dresser somehow makes him better at his job.
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And the Biden administration has even made various DEI benchmarks, one of their top goals in what's called the National Intelligence Strategy, which is our entire strategy on how we approach intelligence gathering and analysis in this country.
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And even in the wake of the Chinese spy balloon traversing the continental United States, that same internal magazine from ODNI was devoted to, quote, the importance of words, like making sure no one's feelings are hurt by the word choices that analysts might use when they're writing about the CCP.
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So this is the kind of stuff that, given the opportunity to come back in, when President Trump comes back in, I think he's going to have a real opportunity to put some leadership in place in those agencies who will get their focus back where it needs to be, which is on American national security, protecting the American people, you know, and China.
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Number one, number one, first and foremost, our real number one national security threat, not global warming, not a lack of DEI, China is where our focus needs to be.
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And it's going to be a big opportunity in the next administration.
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So maybe we'll have you back on again, because I really want to go into the doomsday bunkers and what's in the nuclear football.
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But I want to ask you, why did you name the book The Darkness Has Not Overcome?
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The light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not overcome it.
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We're facing persecution and increasingly secular culture.
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Our politics feel broken and divisive, and we should be fighting for what we believe.
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But we also shouldn't get discouraged because the light will not be overcome.
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And this book is all about those stories that you're talking about right now, taking you into rooms that you couldn't see otherwise, wouldn't know what's going on in otherwise.
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But they also give a takeaway from each of those stories straight out of the Bible for how they could apply, lessons that could apply to anyone's life.
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And honestly, Glenn, part of me wanting to write the book was I have a really difficult time in my own personal life sticking with a devotional.
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It's not a devotional, but it has some elements of it that is like what I would want to read.
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Give me an amazing story from inside the halls of power, but then give me a biblical takeaway that can actually impact my life no matter what I'm doing.
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Cliff, I hope we get the chance to meet again in person and see each other again in person.
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I admire the effort on this book and what you're doing.
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Cliff Sims, the name of the book is The Darkness Has Not Overcome.