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In this episode, Dr. Zehra Nomani joins Dr. Glenn Beck to talk about the role of fear in our everyday lives, and how to deal with it in order to be a better parent and a better human being.
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welcome to the podcast great show for you today uh we talked to dr deborah so she's written a book
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about gender she's an expert on this a scientist uh and you know the the end of gender is what
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we're talking about is there a real way to answer the questions your kids have because
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they come in and they're you know what's the difference between gender and sex can you answer
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that question are you prepared to answer it when your kid asks that question she gets into that
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uh today we also talk a lot more about education this has been a big focus of the show this week
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and what can you do to actually um get what are the resources you could use to um to move a sensible
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way of teaching our kids forward um we talked to lori myers about that and dr everett piper is on as
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well and he gives actually the list of the three colleges in america uh that are still okay just
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instagram page and with some commenter putting all sorts of crazy comments up named glenn beck
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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azra nomani came to my attention years ago because she was the co-founder of the muslim
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reform movement she is a muslim uh and didn't like what was was happening she knows the difference
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between islam and is an islamist an islamist wants the the koran and a religious scholar
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uh to make all of the laws an islamist believes the constitution is nothing because it's not god's law
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from the koran an islamist will kill you for a difference of opinion they have no tolerance for
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a difference of opinion because they know they're on god's side and god is on their side
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it's very similar to the same kind of feeling that you get when you're talking to somebody now
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who is crazy climate change and i mean crazy climate change but especially those who are on
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the bandwagon of critical race theory i hadn't tied these two together but she did a while ago and
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she's now the vice president for strategy and investigations at parents defending education
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she is also the editor of indoctrination the database and foia work um co-founder of coalition
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for tj a group of parents and community members in virginia she is a former reporter for the wall
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street journal she was the co-director of the pearl project uh which did the investigation on daniel
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pearl if you remember that she is fearless and i am i'm honored to have her on the program today
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azra how are you oh thanks so much glenn and you know as well as i do that we uh act even in the
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face of fear right that's what courage is supposed to be because we tremble in our hearts we face the
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backlash we have children we know that there can be retaliation and retribution but but courage
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definitely is acting even when you feel that tremble in your heart somebody gave me uh some great advice
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they said where are your heroes they looked at my desk and my office and they said where are the
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pictures of your heroes even if it's your dad and i said yeah uh what do you mean and they said you
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won't make it if you're doing something really tough unless you're looking in the eyes of people who
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have walked those walks before and i i really learned my lesson that people like martin luther king
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he he wasn't fearless he was terrified much of his life he just knew i have to do this i have to yeah
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yeah because it's a human emotion that we can't uh um you know deny and yet even in the face of fear
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soldiers right paramedics police officers are all of our front line warriors uh and then now us the
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accidental activists the you know advocates for children we have fear but that's something i want
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to just let everyone know as we start this conversation because to feel fear is normal and
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natural and an important mechanism right to protect ourselves but in this day and all times anyway we
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have to still face that fear and still act so there is one thing about fear when you say our first
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responders or our firemen our police our uh you know soldiers they have one thing that americans don't
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feel they have today and that is a sense of uh camaraderie a sense of belonging to a group you know it would
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change a lot if they thought that they were alone if the vast majority of our of our brave soldiers etc etc
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felt they were alone it wouldn't be the same story um and i want to get to i want to get to um some of
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those uh organizations the some of them which you are involved in and and help provide sources where
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people will feel like they're not alone and they can make an actual difference but first i want you to
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address what where we we kind of left off yesterday we we talked just briefly about the nexus between
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um islamicists and critical race theory in schools can you go into that yeah absolutely and you know
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for listeners who don't know me i'll just introduce myself just for a minute just to give them context
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about what i carry in my heart um you know i was born as the first generation post-colonial in india
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in 1965 my parents lived through british colonialism so you could say that they lived under quote white
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supremacy because the british were white and there were my parents who are quote people of color
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right my father literally climbed a bunion tree to support gandhi as he marched for and and and let me say
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that uh i am a huge fan of winston churchill but the guy was a monster in india he was a monster
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and you know the the truth is this is the realities you know of history right but my father carried in
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his heart hope my dad is five foot three because he lived through the bengal famine that a lot of
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listeners might not even know about but it was a famine that was man-made exactly by the british
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government because they needed to divert food from india to the british army so it was their survival
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well my dad even at that height had hope in his heart and he came to america and he became a student
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here to study nutrition to help people with food security issues and bring relief to humanity my mother
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came and then brought my brother and me they didn't come with a grudge in their heart you know
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against the quote systemic racism that had held our country hostage right for so many years they came
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to create a new life and i just bring this up because there's this choice that we can all make about how
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we're going to navigate our futures and my parents made this really bold and pioneering decision to
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you to tap america's equality and vision for its citizens to improve the condition of our family and
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that's the family in which i grew up right and um and then i was a i was a uh young muslim girl
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didn't go to my prom because i wasn't allowed to dance with the boys um never dated until i secretly
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did uh never had a beer until my friend danny pearl introduced me to the delicacies of wheat beer yeah
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um but you know this this is all just to say that you know we're all on these journeys and um
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and then 9-11 happened and my dear friend danny was kidnapped and murdered and i had my reality
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checked that hey there is this interpretation within islam that is dangerous that is laying
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siege to beautiful innocent human beings like danny and um i had to stand up and fight back
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and and what i encountered is exactly what you did glenn you know our biographies are completely
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different but our our analysis is similar which is there is an interpretation within islam that's
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problematic just like in every other religion and every other society there's an extremist strain
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but we got branded racist and islamophobe and it was only last summer that i finally could put the
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pieces together that our islamists these people that you described really well as folks who want
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islam and religion in governance they use not not in governance as the government yes absolutely exactly
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as governance they want islamic state basically um so our examples out there in the world are the
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sociocracies that are in saudi arabia qatar uh and now emerging in afghanistan again uh ran
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in iran exactly um yeah and and what and what gets denied women's rights human rights uh right
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rights all minorities exactly all the quote liberal values that right even i embraced growing up
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as a progressive bleeding heart liberal um so so you and i both have faced this and that's why i kind of
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remembered um you know this idea of fear because they've come after you you know they've come after
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your job they've come to come after your reputation character assassination is their um is their modus
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saparandi right they they invented cancel culture but um i finally last summer got to really understand
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that what they did is they had no um defense really to their illiberal ideas so what they had to do was
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uh create a defense and one of your one of your listeners actually put it really well in a tweet that he
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he he used he wrote in response to the video you posted yesterday from our interview he said that
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they used critical race theory as a shield to protect their bad ideas and what they could do then is
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racialize muslims make us a race so that you became racist if you criticize extremism and and that is what
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we've faced over these last 20 years as we've grappled with this this this just like industry right that
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calls everybody an islamophobe if they dare to talk about the extremism issue so how is how is the
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islamist movement uh involved at all and why would they be involved with getting critical race theory
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into our schools yeah so glenn let me tell you how i realized this happened in the summer of 2020
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the secretary of education started secret meetings in order to eliminate the merit-based race blind test
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at my son's high school in northern virginia called thomas jefferson high school for science and
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technology it's the number one high school in america creating scientists and inventors yeah this
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this method is become replicated in san francisco boston new york in order to destroy merit and advanced
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learning in the name of quote equity but this right they're saying they're saying that whiteness so
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it's important to understand when they say whiteness is a problem what they mean are things like
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merit-based programs so uh striving to achieve actually achieving something working for what
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you get that's the western culture and that's what they want destroyed yeah and ultimately you know
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it's it's a universal culture right also because everybody like in many cultures strives to accomplish
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so you cannot attribute it simply to white supremacy as you're trying to do because my family is the
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perfect example that's why i wanted to introduce your listeners to my family's story because my we we
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are 70 asian at my son's school my family is emblematic of this story of immigrants pursuing the american
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dream but glenn get this that secretary of education his name is atif carny i looked up his political
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contributions and he is funded by the islamist network in northern virginia i was like what the heck
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yeah so we we only have like two minutes here and and i and uh i know we run out of time but i know i
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just leave you with this like what i know you're like wait a second i didn't expect this to go there
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okay let me quickly tell the listeners in you what's going on is the islamists are using this
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leftist agenda of critical race theory in order to bring in their agenda of of anti-western uh curriculum
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anti-israel curriculum pro-palestinian you know uh intifada type of material from california to minnesota
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this is the this is the danger ultimately it's an anti-american propaganda right and this is
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we are being made into israel and the palestinian uh situation that we are we are being uh broken up
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and uh and you are an a mean israeli if you're just trying to defend yourself you're a horrible
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racist state and it's it's being done now to us and this is how it's being done and the left
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this is why i believe the left has embraced islam or islamists uh so hard is because they both have
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the same goal as parents how can we not feel so alone what can we join what should we do
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as yes see glenn beyond being this global uh radio host and personality you are a parent and i want
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you to to go to defendinged.org and become a member of our organization because we are connecting
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parents in that concept that you began the show with and you said you know first responders feel
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like they're part of a group we want parents to know that they are in a collective that we are
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the mama bears and papa bears protecting our cubs and all cubs everywhere and so we created this
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organization in order to let folks know that they're not alone and then do the thing that you're so good
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at doing which is follow the money and document document document and so we've created this map that
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you mentioned indoctrination and it chronicles district by district incidents that we're tracking
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and parent groups that have emerged to fight this indoctrination it's just phenomenal every day
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after your after your interview dozens of people have written to us where where is the where is that
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map do i find that it's yes go to parents ed defendinged.org okay i'm gonna go there right now
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okay so what right now what is it okay so what is it yeah okay all right so that's what you do
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you filter yes and you okay and so for example ed.org so for example like you had uh this amazing
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mom and an educator from the uh california group educators for quality and equality they're on there
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uh go lori myers you had her on as a guest i think um you go to uh maryland and you're going to find
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the chinese american parent association of howard county you're going to find no left turn chapters
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and another organization that's emerged boston you've got the boston parents coalition for academic
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excellence it's phenomenal because there's so many parents like us who are enraged and really
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activated and so that's our goal is to connect folks and empower them
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i'm still trying to get to there it is okay so the indoctrination map um yeah all you do is i see these
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these are chapters all around yeah there's chapters all around and then we also have incidents of
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critical race theory in our school district so every day we've got parents reporting what is being
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taught to their kids just today i was going through a case in texas and then yesterday we met with these
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families in michigan you know it's just phenomenal how much people are now waking up to this this threat
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that we have so tell me you know we all gathered together and it seemed to just happen so quickly
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the idea of common core and how bad that was how bad do you think this is in comparison to common
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core it's exactly the same glenn because common core was developed by institutions and then
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implanted into school districts around the country through school policies that's exactly the same
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thing that's happening with this quote anti-racism teaching in just over this past year with george
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floyd's death they have had the opportunity in to bring these kind of curriculum changes like black
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lives matter at schools into the classroom and we are trying to monitor this as parents but we're
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taking care of our children during covet at the same time right so so they've used remote learning and
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virtual school board meetings to put us on mute but but the joy is that parents are
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unpressing that mute button and saying we're loud and we're here and we're going to fight this
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um and and and i i want everyone to know that you know this is an industry and just like any kind
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of indoctrination has a uh hub this has hubs too around the country and and we're gonna we're gonna
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expose them okay i want you to go to edge uh sorry defending ed.org offending ed.org
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dr deborah so is with us she's the author of the book the end of gender the host of the dr deborah
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so podcast uh she did a podcast with me deborah what was it about a year ago maybe i don't even know
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it's time is flying now um but uh i know um but anyway it's fascinating if you want to go really
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in depth look for that podcast um you can go to uh youtube.com forward slash glenn beck
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uh or you know download it wherever you get your podcast and and listen to that whole hour
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deborah thank you so much for being on with me today um you heard the story of my son uh ruby
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sarah's uh daughter she's 12 she had the same thing and we don't even know what we're doing
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we don't even know how to argue this can you help us on the gender versus sex argument for our kids
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that's what that's what i'm here for and thank you for having me back um you bet so i find it so
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terrifying that this is being taught in kids curriculum i mean this my book basically talks
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about this the entire way through about how activists are intentionally targeting kids with
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this ideology so i guess the way i could start is to explain it um for your audience and then maybe
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how they might go about approaching it with their kids so the difference between sex and gender
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sex biological sex is determined by biology so this is determined by gametes which are mature
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reproductive cells so you gametes gametes yes okay so there are eggs and there are sperm
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yeah okay and then gender identity refers to how we feel in relation to our biological sex
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so statistically speaking 99 of us identify as our birth sex so you glenn you were born male as far as i know
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when you identify as male for that one percent of the population who does not identify as their
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birth sex these are transgender people or intersex people some intersex people identify as transgender
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so they they identify as the opposite sex so someone might be born male and identifies female or vice versa
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and then you have some people who an intersex refers to people who are born with a medical condition
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in which they possess both male and female anatomy and intersex that used to be called hermaphroditism
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right yeah yes that's not considered a sensitive term today so intersex is usually preferred or people
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with a difference in sex development and then there are some people who identify as a third gender
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um so there's an example this would be non-binary or gender fluid or some people use the term gender
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queer although i don't like that term because i consider queer to be a slur but science shows that
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there are two sexes two genders i say people can identify however they want but from a scientific
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perspective there are two and so if we stay so yeah if we stay on science this is the part that was all
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falling apart because i said to my son chromosomes it it you can scientifically um find out if you are a
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male or a female in 99 of the of the uh cases scientifically because of the way you're built you're either male
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or female that's science and biology gender is different and you it didn't used to be different
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but i don't agree with you know you know identifying as a hundred different things because i believe
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there's only two um and i believe if you want to be transgendered you you scientifically are not
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the other gender but you are choosing to be that other gender and you know some parts have been changed
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on you and that's fine and i don't i don't hate you for it and i'm you know whatever but you're not
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a female if you were a male that doesn't fly anymore does it no so biological sex the concept
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of biological sex has been deemed hateful and i don't think it needs to be i understand why because
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i think it can be used in a very insensitive way to marginalize people who identify as transgender but
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from a scientific perspective someone who say a trans woman she may identify as female and i'm happy
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to acknowledge her as female but from a biological perspective she was born male so her sex okay wait
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wait wait wait because this is what this is what i'm saying uh to my son look if i know you and i you
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know even if i don't know you and you're identifying as a as a female and you were a male um you still
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biologically still scientifically you are a male however if you identify as a female i have no problem
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saying hi ma'am how are you you know whatever unless that's offensive now um and identifying
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however if push comes to shove and my son or i'm you know in a court of law or whatever and my son says
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she looks awfully manly i would say don't say that that's not nice um but he used to be a he and now
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he is he's had surgery and he's trying to be a woman and that's his choice and it is you know
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it's fine that he's his choice but i can't under oath or you know i'm not going to be a part of a lie
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am i wrong on that no no i agree with that i mean i have a chapter in the end of gender that talks
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about the differences between women who are born women and trans women because nowadays the the
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narrative is that there are no differences and again i think we can talk about these differences
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as you mentioned in a way that is compassionate but still also be scientifically accurate because
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there are differences and those differences play out in meaningful ways and i think especially when
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it comes to this ideology it's extremely confusing and it's dishonest to tell people otherwise
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so how do we now let's talk to our kids your kid sits down with you deborah and says mom i i i don't
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i i i'm being called hateful because i'm talking about science and they're saying sex doesn't matter
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it's all about gender uh what do i what do i say what i would suggest saying to a child is that i would
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say from as young as an age you can let them know that what they're being taught in school may not
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actually reflect reality which is really sad to have to say but plant the seed so that they know and
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that they feel they can come and talk to you and ask questions because they are going i mean this is
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they're targeting kids in kindergarten now i heard you speak about how this is in first grade curriculum
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it's completely inappropriate and this is something that's probably going to be with them throughout
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their education i mean it's not going to be a one-time thing if it's not in say anti-bullying
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curriculum or um other aspects of their coursework it's going to be in talks where they bring people
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to the school to you know bring awareness to these issues which i think is good but the but the issue is
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it goes way too far right when they're teaching kids that are things that are not factually true and
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like you said 100 genders or however many people everyone's gender fluid so i would say let them
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know that the science says that there are two sexes two genders for the for the most part gender and sex
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are the same and as you said with gender reveal parties those are actually sex reveal parties because
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an unborn child cannot tell an adult which gender they are so wait that's that's new right i mean
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gender and sex used to be the same thing right yeah for the most part and i think sometimes people
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will use the word gender because they don't want to use the word sex because sex has that connotation
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with human sexuality and they don't want to use that word um but i think the separation between sex and
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gender is this greater push from trans activism but then there's also this weird conflation because now
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what some activists will say is that a trans person so a trans woman is biologically female
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which is not true and i don't think it should be considered big to say that because it's just not
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factually true so there's so much confusion about it um and then i would just say yeah let let let your
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kids know people can identify as a third gender if they want or whatever but again and be and be kind to
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these people but science is what of course um so we're talking to uh dr deborah so she is a sex
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neurologist or neuroscientist i should say um and uh she has written a great deal about this have you
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ever thought about writing something either for parents or for kids and when i say kids i mean you
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know teenagers that are just being bombarded with this stuff i've gotten so many requests from parents
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to do something like that i would say the end of gender is written it's the feedback i've gotten
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has been so positive and people have said to me that they can fully understand what i'm saying it
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was written in a way that makes the science almost fun to read which made me very happy to hear so i
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would say teenagers could even read the end of gender um i would love to do something for younger like
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school school age i mean i guess teenagers are technically school age but even younger than that
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because yeah yeah yeah it's crazy it's crazy the basic information like this you you would think that
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putting them in school would take care of it but that's not the case anymore and when they say
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that's not what science says science doesn't say that when they start to argue that you're on rock
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solid ground to say no you're wrong about that science shows that that transgender girl is not a girl
00:31:04.780
she still has the makeup of uh of a male athlete
00:31:15.660
that's another super contentious issue but again i think we have to be able to talk about it because
00:31:20.920
there are serious implications in this case for for girls who are competing against them yeah
00:31:26.000
so are you solid are you on solid ground with the science on that yeah what i would say is actually
00:31:33.700
in my book i have all of the citations so you can use that as a reference because i would have
00:31:37.980
colleagues who would say to me what do i do when i go into these meetings with the principal or
00:31:43.260
administration and they say the quote-unquote new science backs up what they're teaching and i said
00:31:48.640
well that was the inspiration of my book was to offer a reference to people who just want to know
00:31:53.660
objectively what is the truth all the citations are there so you can look up the studies yourself
00:31:57.840
you can bring it to them and say this is why your curriculum or your policies are not fact-based
00:32:03.840
but yeah when it comes to sports especially i'm just aghast at what has been happening lately it's just
00:32:08.960
it's unbelievable how's your life is it settled down some are you are you still getting as much hate
00:32:18.480
as you used to how's your life as much as i ever have but i just get i've gotten used to it at this
00:32:24.840
point and i just feel that the most remarkable thing is that it's always the same criticisms either
00:32:31.200
they lie about what i've said they lie about what's in the book they'll explicitly say critics will
00:32:36.740
explicitly say things claim i've said things that i've said the exact opposite yeah of um or they'll just
00:32:44.160
do personal attacks they'll call me names which tells me that they don't actually have a point
00:32:48.080
and that they can't actually argue with what i'm saying i recently gave a talk at the oxford union
00:32:52.720
and it was it blew my mind the extent to which some students went trying to get that talk
00:32:58.400
deplatformed and so i'm super grateful i was i was given the go ahead to speak by the president james
00:33:05.140
price and you know there are some people who will stand up against it and you've done thank you for
00:33:10.280
having me on i mean you've had me on multiple times and we just have to keep keep going yeah we
00:33:16.600
do um it's it's frightening you know your book is called the end of gender but we are looking at the
00:33:22.280
end of of truth we really are looking at the end of truth on so many fronts yeah yeah we really are
00:33:31.240
and i mean it's not just with i mean how old is your son uh he is 16 now 16 so i mean if he goes on to
00:33:40.200
to we spoke a bit about this last time in once you get to university it is no different and it
00:33:46.600
is in the academic sciences even so it's it's crazy to me the extent to which knowledge now is being
00:33:54.920
basically taken hostage because it's not about just advocating for equal rights which i think is a good
00:34:01.180
thing i mean i used to be very much in favor of social justice when i was younger i've come to a bit of
00:34:05.920
a different perspective on social justice now and i think it's actually quite harmful
00:34:09.860
it's the fact that there's no there's no debate there's no attempt to understand even the other
00:34:18.060
side or whether your your perspective is correct in in terms of activism activists just really want
00:34:23.480
to shut down people who disagree with them and they want to contort science to fit whatever agenda
00:34:28.980
they have it's really disturbing and it's something that i unfortunately don't see getting better
00:34:34.880
anytime soon dr deborceau thank you so much she's the host of the dr deborceau uh podcast and the
00:34:42.020
author of a book that we all have to uh read the end of gender
00:34:46.680
this is the best of the glenn beck program and we really want to thank you for listening
00:34:54.180
let me give you a couple of things uh on why we really need to uh look at the economy and be
00:35:08.820
prepared for what is coming uh i want you just i feel like my job is to warn you of the things that
00:35:16.500
are coming when i can give you ways to navigate around um but at least so you can hear the warning
00:35:27.000
and decide yourself what you're going to do with that um right now there is it's a weird thing
00:35:35.580
millennials now for the first time can afford home ownership but there's a problem there's not enough
00:35:44.140
houses to go around that are starter houses so 30 and 34 year olds are are getting into uh buying their
00:35:53.200
uh homes increasing numbers of between 25 and 29 are buying their first homes uh and the issue is
00:36:02.780
there's there's there's no uh there's no homes being built right now uh there's a shortage of
00:36:12.220
builders there's a shortage of homes not builders but building supplies i don't know if you've been
00:36:17.280
following the price of of wood but just trying to buy plywood has gone from what is it 13 to now 54
00:36:29.680
and i've seen in parts of the country plywood as high as 90 a sheet it's plywood we're trying to build
00:36:38.380
a shelf in our house and uh tried to order some wood and they said well it's going to be a while
00:36:43.040
and i'm like i'm not asking for fancy wood and they said yeah but you want hardwood and i said yeah but
00:36:49.180
it can be any hardwood still gonna be a while there's a shortage of hardwood i mean it is if you're
00:36:55.220
building a house right now uh if you're getting a loan to build the house buy all of the supplies now
00:37:03.600
uh i mean you're risking because you know you're you're you're buying in advance and some people
00:37:09.980
are saying the price is going to go down what makes you think that well it always does oh really
00:37:15.580
well it always hasn't been like this either it's never been like this all of the things going on
00:37:21.940
around the world um so people are um buying homes and now they can't afford the home because there's
00:37:32.640
a shortage of them speaking of shortages more food shortages are on the way uh that is because
00:37:39.580
as the covid crisis heated up the demand for meat increased grocers uh had to place limits on the
00:37:47.940
quantities that consumers could purchase remember this about a year ago now analysts are predicting
00:37:54.200
that a shortage of pork could send the hot dog and bacon prices soaring if it could be found
00:38:01.180
um at all in the stores the pork shortage comes now as many states are easing up on their covid
00:38:09.040
restrictions dropping the mask mandates and opening restaurants etc etc etc so you have an uh an increase
00:38:17.100
of prices of of any kind of pork products chlorine to treat swimming pools that price is skyrocketing
00:38:26.200
uh it's running out at some stores some pool technicians who use it can't even get their their
00:38:31.720
hands on it um swimming pool technicians are working six and seven days a week because they can't keep up
00:38:38.020
with it because of chlorine but one of the chlorine uh plants in fact the largest chlorine plant in the
00:38:46.820
country uh is creating you know some of the some of the problems um you try to get you try to get
00:38:55.560
somebody to work there you can't pay them enough uh with the storms that we have had uh the weather
00:39:04.180
that we had here in in texas that is hurting it that's also hurting styrofoam uh if you're blowing
00:39:11.980
insulation into your house and it's the styrofoam kind of the foam that listen to this one i don't know
00:39:20.040
if you heard this stew but chevron was promised by the state that they would never have a power outage
00:39:28.800
now would you believe the state if they told you it's a 100 guarantee that we will never have a power
00:39:40.140
outage no i would i would not i wouldn't either precautions on my own side i think now maybe if
00:39:46.420
i'm somebody who's just you know cooking in my house and i like okay but i've got i'm getting an
00:39:51.820
electric stove you'll never have a power outage okay maybe i believe them and then i'm inconvenienced
00:39:59.720
for a while but if i'm building a billion dollar industry a billion dollar structure and it's making
00:40:08.220
styrofoam and if the power goes out everything uh sets and congeals and now the plant is useless
00:40:17.420
i think i get a backup generator yeah you know i think i i think i don't roll that dice
00:40:24.040
uh so now styrofoam uh that will be any kind of styrofoam anything that is like that the biggest
00:40:33.500
maker of that the plant is down and uh chevron has come out and said they're working on a plan
00:40:41.740
to be able to reopen uh and fulfill some orders but they don't know what that plan is yet
00:40:49.720
so anybody who had an order in for this stuff you had they canceled all orders and said reapply and
00:40:57.700
we'll try to get you a price and a time so everything is going is skyrocketing at the same
00:41:06.020
time jobs are coming back and you can't hire anybody because you're not paying them enough
00:41:14.640
wait a minute really look at the unemployment numbers we there's a there's a problem getting
00:41:21.300
people to go back to work yeah because basically your unemployment now because of biden you can make
00:41:29.140
about 20 an hour on unemployment insurance so if you're working an average 40 hour a week you're
00:41:36.960
making you know 20 bucks an hour well why would i go take a job that's going to pay me 9 13 hell even
00:41:44.680
15 why would i take that job i'm losing five dollars an hour i don't think so
00:41:51.440
all of these things that are happening all of these things are happening are in in my view
00:42:02.400
a way to accelerate the universal basic income idea all of these problems with the exception of the
00:42:12.800
chevron plant well no even that one was man-made that was stupid um but all of these problems are
00:42:19.760
coming because of our policies and i told you years ago there's going to come a time we're in this place
00:42:26.540
where it's a giant crunch of of uh the industrial revolution except now it's the technological revolution
00:42:35.480
it's ai revolution it's a robotic revolution and there's going to be fewer and fewer jobs for
00:42:42.640
people to do and so the argument is universal basic income and we did a show on it years ago
00:42:49.320
because i said look you have to start thinking about these things now because truck drivers are
00:42:54.780
going to lose their jobs and there's going to be huge unemployment and you know high tech will be deemed
00:43:01.480
a bad guy government will be deemed a bad guy because they won't have a way out so what are you going to
00:43:09.060
do and when it hits it's going to be horrible well i think that they are they are moving us into
00:43:16.260
not working uh as uh as this as a result of this covid nonsense and covid is real the vaccines are real
00:43:29.080
uh i'm not a science denier or anything else i just think this is has been used for other purposes
00:43:36.740
have you read the story stew of of these business people that can't hire anybody i mean at all yeah
00:43:44.500
there's a piece uh in the dispatch today about that um talking about uh for example one diner owner
00:43:51.200
uh in ohio the diners now of course going out of business uh it's owned by the anderson's uh they
00:43:57.080
talk about how a line cook at dale's diner starts at eleven dollars an hour uh up two dollars an hour
00:44:02.060
over what it was before the pandemic so they've already gone from nine to eleven dollars an hour
00:44:06.140
um according to the owner that's four hundred forty dollars a week or seven hundred and sixty
00:44:11.400
dollars a month roughly 21k a year not including overtime or business it's a starter job right but
00:44:16.380
they're paying 11 bucks an hour 21k a year but pandemic driven unemployment often pays more
00:44:21.620
sometimes far more in ohio according to data from uh from uh the ohio department of jobs and family
00:44:27.020
services the state provided weekly unemployment benefits that averaged three hundred and forty
00:44:31.260
dollars add that to the unemployment supplements from the federal government which have ranged between
00:44:36.040
three hundred and six hundred dollars per week depending on which covid law funded them and you
00:44:41.060
have some workers paid between six hundred and forty and nine hundred and forty dollars per week to
00:44:45.560
stay home between thirty three thousand and almost fifty thousand on an annualized basis so if you're a
00:44:50.900
person who's looking at a job at a for a dishwasher and your your argument is do i work a full week for
00:44:58.400
four hundred and forty dollars or do i stay home for a minimum of six hundred and forty dollars and maybe up
00:45:04.060
to nine hundred and forty dollars what decision are you going to make and the guy who owns the diner
00:45:09.340
says that he would normally get you know he would put out you know a call for a new job and he would get
00:45:19.620
anywhere from six to twelve applications in the first week or whatever and we get to take our pick
00:45:23.720
we'll get to pick the best of the bunch within the last couple of months we don't even get a call
00:45:28.040
when he posts a job there there's a story in the new york post that's very similar to this
00:45:33.240
they're talking about um uh a firm a law firm that is offering forty thousand dollars for um
00:45:42.120
for uh you know just being an assistant you know an executive assistant forty thousand dollars is
00:45:47.720
starting pay they said that they are getting um calls and applications but when they call them
00:45:55.600
back and say hey we saw your application we'd love to have you come in for an interview
00:46:00.200
they're not they're not getting even callbacks and this law firm said it's because they're just
00:46:07.000
fulfilling their unemployment you know obligation you have you filed for any jobs you've been out
00:46:14.040
looking for a job yep i've sent my applications out they're not even returning the phone calls
00:46:18.500
i mean we are we are in um such a bad place and here's what's happening at the same time
00:46:25.400
did you see the taco bell in new york city i've seen lots of taco bells in new york city frankly
00:46:30.940
used to work there so there's there all the time yeah there's a new one that has um no order takers
00:46:37.820
it's all automated okay the entire taco bell is automated so you have some people working you know
00:46:46.960
there to keep the machines and keep things moving but they've cut the staff by more than half okay
00:46:54.620
so now these companies are having a hard time filling those jobs and at the same time technology
00:47:01.180
is able to replace those jobs those jobs aren't coming they're not coming back they're not coming
00:47:07.780
back also in houston i think it's pizza hut just introduced the first robotic driverless delivery
00:47:18.080
service so you order a pizza and it's on a trial basis now you have to opt in on it but you call for
00:47:24.600
a pizza you give the order you pay for it they give you a code um within 30 minutes this robot pulls up
00:47:32.860
in your driveway you go out you put the code into the side of it the side of this thing opens up and
00:47:40.000
there's your pizza and it's still warm because it's been this what this thing has been made to keep food
00:47:45.500
warm and that you know that the pizza isn't upside down there goes all of the pizza delivery entry jobs
00:47:52.620
i mean we are creating this perfect storm right now where universal basic income is going to be
00:48:00.820
embraced by people because they don't want to work anymore and then if they did they can't get a job
00:48:09.000
that's incredible i mean it's it's all lining up to that same thing i mean and it's andrew yang's
00:48:15.220
dream world here yeah and let me tell you this um the problem with all of this is is if you can't
00:48:22.200
get starter and entry level jobs how do you how do you how do you how do you find others how do
00:48:30.420
how do you replace people you know this is what clear channel did back in the 90s they just fired all
00:48:37.680
of these young people because the business wasn't viable anymore so they fired all the weekenders and
00:48:43.600
everybody else well now there's nobody in the industry that's coming up in the industry and so now you
00:48:49.940
have this this almost impossible thing to fill the jobs because you don't have any starter entry level
00:48:57.700
jobs how do you grow the next talent it's just this nasty cycle that we are we're beginning and we're