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00:00:00.000 welcome to the podcast great show for you today uh we talked to dr deborah so she's written a book

00:00:05.820 about gender she's an expert on this a scientist uh and you know the the end of gender is what 1.00

00:00:12.540 we're talking about is there a real way to answer the questions your kids have because

00:00:18.140 they come in and they're you know what's the difference between gender and sex can you answer

00:00:22.960 that question are you prepared to answer it when your kid asks that question she gets into that

00:00:27.180 uh today we also talk a lot more about education this has been a big focus of the show this week

00:00:31.120 and what can you do to actually um get what are the resources you could use to um to move a sensible

00:00:40.460 way of teaching our kids forward um we talked to lori myers about that and dr everett piper is on as

00:00:47.200 well and he gives actually the list of the three colleges in america uh that are still okay just

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00:01:40.860 azra nomani came to my attention years ago because she was the co-founder of the muslim

00:01:51.440 reform movement she is a muslim uh and didn't like what was was happening she knows the difference 1.00

00:01:59.720 between islam and is an islamist an islamist wants the the koran and a religious scholar

00:02:09.160 uh to make all of the laws an islamist believes the constitution is nothing because it's not god's law 0.94

00:02:18.560 from the koran an islamist will kill you for a difference of opinion they have no tolerance for 1.00

00:02:27.460 a difference of opinion because they know they're on god's side and god is on their side

00:02:33.960 it's very similar to the same kind of feeling that you get when you're talking to somebody now

00:02:40.800 who is crazy climate change and i mean crazy climate change but especially those who are on

00:02:49.520 the bandwagon of critical race theory i hadn't tied these two together but she did a while ago and

00:02:58.440 she's now the vice president for strategy and investigations at parents defending education

00:03:03.860 she is also the editor of indoctrination the database and foia work um co-founder of coalition

00:03:12.000 for tj a group of parents and community members in virginia she is a former reporter for the wall

00:03:18.460 street journal she was the co-director of the pearl project uh which did the investigation on daniel

00:03:24.200 pearl if you remember that she is fearless and i am i'm honored to have her on the program today

00:03:31.660 azra how are you oh thanks so much glenn and you know as well as i do that we uh act even in the

00:03:39.600 face of fear right that's what courage is supposed to be because we tremble in our hearts we face the

00:03:46.780 backlash we have children we know that there can be retaliation and retribution but but courage

00:03:52.940 definitely is acting even when you feel that tremble in your heart somebody gave me uh some great advice

00:03:59.540 they said where are your heroes they looked at my desk and my office and they said where are the

00:04:04.300 pictures of your heroes even if it's your dad and i said yeah uh what do you mean and they said you

00:04:10.180 won't make it if you're doing something really tough unless you're looking in the eyes of people who

00:04:15.160 have walked those walks before and i i really learned my lesson that people like martin luther king

00:04:21.520 he he wasn't fearless he was terrified much of his life he just knew i have to do this i have to yeah

00:04:30.980 yeah because it's a human emotion that we can't uh um you know deny and yet even in the face of fear

00:04:40.060 soldiers right paramedics police officers are all of our front line warriors uh and then now us the

00:04:49.260 accidental activists the you know advocates for children we have fear but that's something i want 0.98

00:04:57.880 to just let everyone know as we start this conversation because to feel fear is normal and

00:05:03.760 natural and an important mechanism right to protect ourselves but in this day and all times anyway we

00:05:11.800 have to still face that fear and still act so there is one thing about fear when you say our first

00:05:19.160 responders or our firemen our police our uh you know soldiers they have one thing that americans don't

00:05:27.600 feel they have today and that is a sense of uh camaraderie a sense of belonging to a group you know it would

00:05:37.520 change a lot if they thought that they were alone if the vast majority of our of our brave soldiers etc etc

00:05:43.780 felt they were alone it wouldn't be the same story um and i want to get to i want to get to um some of

00:05:51.920 those uh organizations the some of them which you are involved in and and help provide sources where

00:05:58.620 people will feel like they're not alone and they can make an actual difference but first i want you to

00:06:04.300 address what where we we kind of left off yesterday we we talked just briefly about the nexus between

00:06:11.540 um islamicists and critical race theory in schools can you go into that yeah absolutely and you know

00:06:20.500 for listeners who don't know me i'll just introduce myself just for a minute just to give them context

00:06:25.920 about what i carry in my heart um you know i was born as the first generation post-colonial in india

00:06:34.360 in 1965 my parents lived through british colonialism so you could say that they lived under quote white

00:06:42.740 supremacy because the british were white and there were my parents who are quote people of color

00:06:48.320 right my father literally climbed a bunion tree to support gandhi as he marched for and and and let me say 0.87

00:06:58.800 that uh i am a huge fan of winston churchill but the guy was a monster in india he was a monster

00:07:04.760 and you know the the truth is this is the realities you know of history right but my father carried in

00:07:15.100 his heart hope my dad is five foot three because he lived through the bengal famine that a lot of

00:07:22.420 listeners might not even know about but it was a famine that was man-made exactly by the british 0.53

00:07:28.260 government because they needed to divert food from india to the british army so it was their survival

00:07:34.660 well my dad even at that height had hope in his heart and he came to america and he became a student

00:07:44.920 here to study nutrition to help people with food security issues and bring relief to humanity my mother

00:07:54.480 came and then brought my brother and me they didn't come with a grudge in their heart you know

00:08:00.620 against the quote systemic racism that had held our country hostage right for so many years they came

00:08:10.340 to create a new life and i just bring this up because there's this choice that we can all make about how

00:08:18.100 we're going to navigate our futures and my parents made this really bold and pioneering decision to

00:08:25.260 you to tap america's equality and vision for its citizens to improve the condition of our family and

00:08:33.760 that's the family in which i grew up right and um and then i was a i was a uh young muslim girl

00:08:43.500 didn't go to my prom because i wasn't allowed to dance with the boys um never dated until i secretly

00:08:51.400 did uh never had a beer until my friend danny pearl introduced me to the delicacies of wheat beer yeah

00:09:00.280 um but you know this this is all just to say that you know we're all on these journeys and um

00:09:08.080 and then 9-11 happened and my dear friend danny was kidnapped and murdered and i had my reality

00:09:16.760 checked that hey there is this interpretation within islam that is dangerous that is laying

00:09:25.300 siege to beautiful innocent human beings like danny and um i had to stand up and fight back

00:09:32.900 and and what i encountered is exactly what you did glenn you know our biographies are completely

00:09:40.400 different but our our analysis is similar which is there is an interpretation within islam that's

00:09:46.720 problematic just like in every other religion and every other society there's an extremist strain

00:09:52.020 but we got branded racist and islamophobe and it was only last summer that i finally could put the

00:10:01.120 pieces together that our islamists these people that you described really well as folks who want

00:10:09.820 islam and religion in governance they use not not in governance as the government yes absolutely exactly 0.95

00:10:20.220 as governance they want islamic state basically um so our examples out there in the world are the

00:10:28.020 sociocracies that are in saudi arabia qatar uh and now emerging in afghanistan again uh ran

00:10:36.720 in iran exactly um yeah and and what and what gets denied women's rights human rights uh right 0.96

00:10:45.480 rights all minorities exactly all the quote liberal values that right even i embraced growing up 0.83

00:10:54.000 as a progressive bleeding heart liberal um so so you and i both have faced this and that's why i kind of

00:11:03.600 remembered um you know this idea of fear because they've come after you you know they've come after

00:11:08.420 your job they've come to come after your reputation character assassination is their um is their modus

00:11:15.900 saparandi right they they invented cancel culture but um i finally last summer got to really understand

00:11:24.920 that what they did is they had no um defense really to their illiberal ideas so what they had to do was

00:11:35.020 uh create a defense and one of your one of your listeners actually put it really well in a tweet that he

00:11:42.120 he he used he wrote in response to the video you posted yesterday from our interview he said that

00:11:49.840 they used critical race theory as a shield to protect their bad ideas and what they could do then is

00:11:58.040 racialize muslims make us a race so that you became racist if you criticize extremism and and that is what

00:12:06.480 we've faced over these last 20 years as we've grappled with this this this just like industry right that

00:12:14.140 calls everybody an islamophobe if they dare to talk about the extremism issue so how is how is the

00:12:21.540 islamist movement uh involved at all and why would they be involved with getting critical race theory

00:12:29.360 into our schools yeah so glenn let me tell you how i realized this happened in the summer of 2020

00:12:37.520 the secretary of education started secret meetings in order to eliminate the merit-based race blind test

00:12:47.920 at my son's high school in northern virginia called thomas jefferson high school for science and

00:12:54.000 technology it's the number one high school in america creating scientists and inventors yeah this

00:13:01.640 this method is become replicated in san francisco boston new york in order to destroy merit and advanced

00:13:12.260 learning in the name of quote equity but this right they're saying they're saying that whiteness so

00:13:18.540 it's important to understand when they say whiteness is a problem what they mean are things like

00:13:23.480 merit-based programs so uh striving to achieve actually achieving something working for what

00:13:31.240 you get that's the western culture and that's what they want destroyed yeah and ultimately you know

00:13:38.000 it's it's a universal culture right also because everybody like in many cultures strives to accomplish

00:13:44.740 so you cannot attribute it simply to white supremacy as you're trying to do because my family is the

00:13:51.120 perfect example that's why i wanted to introduce your listeners to my family's story because my we we

00:13:57.180 are 70 asian at my son's school my family is emblematic of this story of immigrants pursuing the american

00:14:05.120 dream but glenn get this that secretary of education his name is atif carny i looked up his political

00:14:14.300 contributions and he is funded by the islamist network in northern virginia i was like what the heck

00:14:25.920 yeah so we we only have like two minutes here and and i and uh i know we run out of time but i know i

00:14:33.640 just leave you with this like what i know you're like wait a second i didn't expect this to go there

00:14:39.320 okay let me quickly tell the listeners in you what's going on is the islamists are using this 0.59

00:14:47.060 leftist agenda of critical race theory in order to bring in their agenda of of anti-western uh curriculum

00:14:58.000 anti-israel curriculum pro-palestinian you know uh intifada type of material from california to minnesota

00:15:09.020 this is the this is the danger ultimately it's an anti-american propaganda right and this is

00:15:16.640 we are being made into israel and the palestinian uh situation that we are we are being uh broken up 0.99

00:15:27.120 and uh and you are an a mean israeli if you're just trying to defend yourself you're a horrible 0.94

00:15:35.100 racist state and it's it's being done now to us and this is how it's being done and the left 0.99

00:15:42.400 this is why i believe the left has embraced islam or islamists uh so hard is because they both have 0.99

00:15:50.460 the same goal as parents how can we not feel so alone what can we join what should we do

00:15:57.380 as yes see glenn beyond being this global uh radio host and personality you are a parent and i want

00:16:06.880 you to to go to defendinged.org and become a member of our organization because we are connecting

00:16:14.040 parents in that concept that you began the show with and you said you know first responders feel

00:16:20.420 like they're part of a group we want parents to know that they are in a collective that we are

00:16:27.600 the mama bears and papa bears protecting our cubs and all cubs everywhere and so we created this

00:16:34.520 organization in order to let folks know that they're not alone and then do the thing that you're so good

00:16:41.680 at doing which is follow the money and document document document and so we've created this map that

00:16:48.500 you mentioned indoctrination and it chronicles district by district incidents that we're tracking

00:16:55.380 and parent groups that have emerged to fight this indoctrination it's just phenomenal every day

00:17:02.640 after your after your interview dozens of people have written to us where where is the where is that

00:17:09.260 map do i find that it's yes go to parents ed defendinged.org okay i'm gonna go there right now

00:17:18.480 okay so what right now what is it okay so what is it yeah okay all right so that's what you do

00:17:29.000 you filter yes and you okay and so for example ed.org so for example like you had uh this amazing

00:17:40.080 mom and an educator from the uh california group educators for quality and equality they're on there

00:17:47.320 uh go lori myers you had her on as a guest i think um you go to uh maryland and you're going to find

00:17:55.460 the chinese american parent association of howard county you're going to find no left turn chapters

00:18:01.140 and another organization that's emerged boston you've got the boston parents coalition for academic

00:18:06.780 excellence it's phenomenal because there's so many parents like us who are enraged and really

00:18:15.820 activated and so that's our goal is to connect folks and empower them

00:18:20.920 i'm still trying to get to there it is okay so the indoctrination map um yeah all you do is i see these

00:18:31.700 these are chapters all around yeah there's chapters all around and then we also have incidents of

00:18:38.760 critical race theory in our school district so every day we've got parents reporting what is being

00:18:46.180 taught to their kids just today i was going through a case in texas and then yesterday we met with these

00:18:53.580 families in michigan you know it's just phenomenal how much people are now waking up to this this threat

00:19:02.320 that we have so tell me you know we all gathered together and it seemed to just happen so quickly

00:19:09.600 the idea of common core and how bad that was how bad do you think this is in comparison to common

00:19:18.820 core it's exactly the same glenn because common core was developed by institutions and then

00:19:26.700 implanted into school districts around the country through school policies that's exactly the same

00:19:32.940 thing that's happening with this quote anti-racism teaching in just over this past year with george

00:19:39.800 floyd's death they have had the opportunity in to bring these kind of curriculum changes like black 1.00

00:19:48.140 lives matter at schools into the classroom and we are trying to monitor this as parents but we're

00:19:55.940 taking care of our children during covet at the same time right so so they've used remote learning and

00:20:02.560 virtual school board meetings to put us on mute but but the joy is that parents are

00:20:09.500 unpressing that mute button and saying we're loud and we're here and we're going to fight this

00:20:15.380 um and and and i i want everyone to know that you know this is an industry and just like any kind

00:20:23.580 of indoctrination has a uh hub this has hubs too around the country and and we're gonna we're gonna

00:20:31.840 expose them okay i want you to go to edge uh sorry defending ed.org offending ed.org

00:20:41.540 this is the best of the glenn beck program

00:20:46.740 dr deborah so is with us she's the author of the book the end of gender the host of the dr deborah

00:21:01.840 so podcast uh she did a podcast with me deborah what was it about a year ago maybe i don't even know

00:21:08.820 it's time is flying now um but uh i know um but anyway it's fascinating if you want to go really

00:21:17.180 in depth look for that podcast um you can go to uh youtube.com forward slash glenn beck

00:21:23.940 uh or you know download it wherever you get your podcast and and listen to that whole hour

00:21:29.180 deborah thank you so much for being on with me today um you heard the story of my son uh ruby

00:21:35.560 sarah's uh daughter she's 12 she had the same thing and we don't even know what we're doing

00:21:41.220 we don't even know how to argue this can you help us on the gender versus sex argument for our kids

00:21:50.400 that's what that's what i'm here for and thank you for having me back um you bet so i find it so

00:21:56.120 terrifying that this is being taught in kids curriculum i mean this my book basically talks

00:22:01.680 about this the entire way through about how activists are intentionally targeting kids with

00:22:06.460 this ideology so i guess the way i could start is to explain it um for your audience and then maybe

00:22:11.740 how they might go about approaching it with their kids so the difference between sex and gender

00:22:17.660 sex biological sex is determined by biology so this is determined by gametes which are mature

00:22:24.480 reproductive cells so you gametes gametes yes okay so there are eggs and there are sperm

00:22:33.600 yeah okay and then gender identity refers to how we feel in relation to our biological sex

00:22:43.760 so statistically speaking 99 of us identify as our birth sex so you glenn you were born male as far as i know

00:22:52.440 when you identify as male for that one percent of the population who does not identify as their

00:22:58.220 birth sex these are transgender people or intersex people some intersex people identify as transgender

00:23:03.840 so they they identify as the opposite sex so someone might be born male and identifies female or vice versa

00:23:10.580 and then you have some people who an intersex refers to people who are born with a medical condition

00:23:16.660 in which they possess both male and female anatomy and intersex that used to be called hermaphroditism

00:23:23.120 right yeah yes that's not considered a sensitive term today so intersex is usually preferred or people

00:23:29.760 with a difference in sex development and then there are some people who identify as a third gender

00:23:35.660 um so there's an example this would be non-binary or gender fluid or some people use the term gender

00:23:43.180 queer although i don't like that term because i consider queer to be a slur but science shows that 1.00

00:23:49.480 there are two sexes two genders i say people can identify however they want but from a scientific

00:23:55.440 perspective there are two and so if we stay so yeah if we stay on science this is the part that was all

00:24:04.020 falling apart because i said to my son chromosomes it it you can scientifically um find out if you are a

00:24:14.220 male or a female in 99 of the of the uh cases scientifically because of the way you're built you're either male

00:24:23.480 or female that's science and biology gender is different and you it didn't used to be different 1.00

00:24:32.040 but i don't agree with you know you know identifying as a hundred different things because i believe

00:24:38.120 there's only two um and i believe if you want to be transgendered you you scientifically are not

00:24:47.600 the other gender but you are choosing to be that other gender and you know some parts have been changed

00:24:54.900 on you and that's fine and i don't i don't hate you for it and i'm you know whatever but you're not

00:25:01.020 a female if you were a male that doesn't fly anymore does it no so biological sex the concept 1.00

00:25:08.780 of biological sex has been deemed hateful and i don't think it needs to be i understand why because

00:25:15.120 i think it can be used in a very insensitive way to marginalize people who identify as transgender but

00:25:22.120 from a scientific perspective someone who say a trans woman she may identify as female and i'm happy

00:25:29.100 to acknowledge her as female but from a biological perspective she was born male so her sex okay wait 0.75

00:25:35.800 wait wait wait because this is what this is what i'm saying uh to my son look if i know you and i you

00:25:43.640 know even if i don't know you and you're identifying as a as a female and you were a male um you still

00:25:50.780 biologically still scientifically you are a male however if you identify as a female i have no problem

00:25:58.240 saying hi ma'am how are you you know whatever unless that's offensive now um and identifying

00:26:04.280 however if push comes to shove and my son or i'm you know in a court of law or whatever and my son says

00:26:14.540 she looks awfully manly i would say don't say that that's not nice um but he used to be a he and now

00:26:24.080 he is he's had surgery and he's trying to be a woman and that's his choice and it is you know

00:26:30.480 it's fine that he's his choice but i can't under oath or you know i'm not going to be a part of a lie

00:26:36.880 am i wrong on that no no i agree with that i mean i have a chapter in the end of gender that talks

00:26:43.740 about the differences between women who are born women and trans women because nowadays the the

00:26:49.940 narrative is that there are no differences and again i think we can talk about these differences

00:26:53.740 as you mentioned in a way that is compassionate but still also be scientifically accurate because

00:26:59.620 there are differences and those differences play out in meaningful ways and i think especially when

00:27:04.120 it comes to this ideology it's extremely confusing and it's dishonest to tell people otherwise

00:27:09.100 so how do we now let's talk to our kids your kid sits down with you deborah and says mom i i i don't

00:27:19.920 i i i'm being called hateful because i'm talking about science and they're saying sex doesn't matter

00:27:26.860 it's all about gender uh what do i what do i say what i would suggest saying to a child is that i would

00:27:37.420 say from as young as an age you can let them know that what they're being taught in school may not

00:27:42.180 actually reflect reality which is really sad to have to say but plant the seed so that they know and

00:27:49.100 that they feel they can come and talk to you and ask questions because they are going i mean this is

00:27:54.760 they're targeting kids in kindergarten now i heard you speak about how this is in first grade curriculum

00:27:59.100 it's completely inappropriate and this is something that's probably going to be with them throughout

00:28:04.540 their education i mean it's not going to be a one-time thing if it's not in say anti-bullying

00:28:10.840 curriculum or um other aspects of their coursework it's going to be in talks where they bring people

00:28:18.720 to the school to you know bring awareness to these issues which i think is good but the but the issue is

00:28:24.340 it goes way too far right when they're teaching kids that are things that are not factually true and

00:28:28.940 like you said 100 genders or however many people everyone's gender fluid so i would say let them

00:28:34.220 know that the science says that there are two sexes two genders for the for the most part gender and sex

00:28:41.540 are the same and as you said with gender reveal parties those are actually sex reveal parties because

00:28:46.540 an unborn child cannot tell an adult which gender they are so wait that's that's new right i mean 1.00

00:28:54.960 gender and sex used to be the same thing right yeah for the most part and i think sometimes people

00:29:02.600 will use the word gender because they don't want to use the word sex because sex has that connotation

00:29:07.180 with human sexuality and they don't want to use that word um but i think the separation between sex and

00:29:16.020 gender is this greater push from trans activism but then there's also this weird conflation because now

00:29:22.880 what some activists will say is that a trans person so a trans woman is biologically female

00:29:27.780 which is not true and i don't think it should be considered big to say that because it's just not

00:29:33.120 factually true so there's so much confusion about it um and then i would just say yeah let let let your

00:29:38.940 kids know people can identify as a third gender if they want or whatever but again and be and be kind to

00:29:45.480 these people but science is what of course um so we're talking to uh dr deborah so she is a sex 0.95

00:29:53.360 neurologist or neuroscientist i should say um and uh she has written a great deal about this have you

00:30:00.800 ever thought about writing something either for parents or for kids and when i say kids i mean you

00:30:07.340 know teenagers that are just being bombarded with this stuff i've gotten so many requests from parents

00:30:14.140 to do something like that i would say the end of gender is written it's the feedback i've gotten

00:30:18.720 has been so positive and people have said to me that they can fully understand what i'm saying it

00:30:22.740 was written in a way that makes the science almost fun to read which made me very happy to hear so i

00:30:27.720 would say teenagers could even read the end of gender um i would love to do something for younger like

00:30:32.960 school school age i mean i guess teenagers are technically school age but even younger than that

00:30:37.600 because yeah yeah yeah it's crazy it's crazy the basic information like this you you would think that

00:30:42.340 putting them in school would take care of it but that's not the case anymore and when they say

00:30:47.660 that's not what science says science doesn't say that when they start to argue that you're on rock

00:30:53.900 solid ground to say no you're wrong about that science shows that that transgender girl is not a girl

00:31:04.780 she still has the makeup of uh of a male athlete 0.77

00:31:09.620 or not correct correct um i mean i would say

00:31:15.660 that's another super contentious issue but again i think we have to be able to talk about it because

00:31:20.920 there are serious implications in this case for for girls who are competing against them yeah 0.99

00:31:26.000 so are you solid are you on solid ground with the science on that yeah what i would say is actually

00:31:33.700 in my book i have all of the citations so you can use that as a reference because i would have

00:31:37.980 colleagues who would say to me what do i do when i go into these meetings with the principal or

00:31:43.260 administration and they say the quote-unquote new science backs up what they're teaching and i said

00:31:48.640 well that was the inspiration of my book was to offer a reference to people who just want to know

00:31:53.660 objectively what is the truth all the citations are there so you can look up the studies yourself

00:31:57.840 you can bring it to them and say this is why your curriculum or your policies are not fact-based

00:32:03.840 but yeah when it comes to sports especially i'm just aghast at what has been happening lately it's just

00:32:08.960 it's unbelievable how's your life is it settled down some are you are you still getting as much hate

00:32:18.480 as you used to how's your life as much as i ever have but i just get i've gotten used to it at this

00:32:24.840 point and i just feel that the most remarkable thing is that it's always the same criticisms either

00:32:31.200 they lie about what i've said they lie about what's in the book they'll explicitly say critics will

00:32:36.740 explicitly say things claim i've said things that i've said the exact opposite yeah of um or they'll just

00:32:44.160 do personal attacks they'll call me names which tells me that they don't actually have a point

00:32:48.080 and that they can't actually argue with what i'm saying i recently gave a talk at the oxford union

00:32:52.720 and it was it blew my mind the extent to which some students went trying to get that talk

00:32:58.400 deplatformed and so i'm super grateful i was i was given the go ahead to speak by the president james

00:33:05.140 price and you know there are some people who will stand up against it and you've done thank you for

00:33:10.280 having me on i mean you've had me on multiple times and we just have to keep keep going yeah we

00:33:16.600 do um it's it's frightening you know your book is called the end of gender but we are looking at the

00:33:22.280 end of of truth we really are looking at the end of truth on so many fronts yeah yeah we really are

00:33:31.240 and i mean it's not just with i mean how old is your son uh he is 16 now 16 so i mean if he goes on to

00:33:40.200 to we spoke a bit about this last time in once you get to university it is no different and it

00:33:46.600 is in the academic sciences even so it's it's crazy to me the extent to which knowledge now is being

00:33:54.920 basically taken hostage because it's not about just advocating for equal rights which i think is a good

00:34:01.180 thing i mean i used to be very much in favor of social justice when i was younger i've come to a bit of

00:34:05.920 a different perspective on social justice now and i think it's actually quite harmful

00:34:09.860 it's the fact that there's no there's no debate there's no attempt to understand even the other

00:34:18.060 side or whether your your perspective is correct in in terms of activism activists just really want

00:34:23.480 to shut down people who disagree with them and they want to contort science to fit whatever agenda

00:34:28.980 they have it's really disturbing and it's something that i unfortunately don't see getting better

00:34:34.880 anytime soon dr deborceau thank you so much she's the host of the dr deborceau uh podcast and the

00:34:42.020 author of a book that we all have to uh read the end of gender

00:34:46.680 this is the best of the glenn beck program and we really want to thank you for listening

00:34:54.180 let me give you a couple of things uh on why we really need to uh look at the economy and be

00:35:08.820 prepared for what is coming uh i want you just i feel like my job is to warn you of the things that

00:35:16.500 are coming when i can give you ways to navigate around um but at least so you can hear the warning

00:35:27.000 and decide yourself what you're going to do with that um right now there is it's a weird thing

00:35:35.580 millennials now for the first time can afford home ownership but there's a problem there's not enough

00:35:44.140 houses to go around that are starter houses so 30 and 34 year olds are are getting into uh buying their

00:35:53.200 uh homes increasing numbers of between 25 and 29 are buying their first homes uh and the issue is

00:36:02.780 there's there's there's no uh there's no homes being built right now uh there's a shortage of

00:36:12.220 builders there's a shortage of homes not builders but building supplies i don't know if you've been

00:36:17.280 following the price of of wood but just trying to buy plywood has gone from what is it 13 to now 54

00:36:29.680 and i've seen in parts of the country plywood as high as 90 a sheet it's plywood we're trying to build

00:36:38.380 a shelf in our house and uh tried to order some wood and they said well it's going to be a while

00:36:43.040 and i'm like i'm not asking for fancy wood and they said yeah but you want hardwood and i said yeah but

00:36:49.180 it can be any hardwood still gonna be a while there's a shortage of hardwood i mean it is if you're

00:36:55.220 building a house right now uh if you're getting a loan to build the house buy all of the supplies now

00:37:03.600 uh i mean you're risking because you know you're you're you're buying in advance and some people

00:37:09.980 are saying the price is going to go down what makes you think that well it always does oh really

00:37:15.580 well it always hasn't been like this either it's never been like this all of the things going on

00:37:21.940 around the world um so people are um buying homes and now they can't afford the home because there's

00:37:32.640 a shortage of them speaking of shortages more food shortages are on the way uh that is because

00:37:39.580 as the covid crisis heated up the demand for meat increased grocers uh had to place limits on the

00:37:47.940 quantities that consumers could purchase remember this about a year ago now analysts are predicting

00:37:54.200 that a shortage of pork could send the hot dog and bacon prices soaring if it could be found

00:38:01.180 um at all in the stores the pork shortage comes now as many states are easing up on their covid

00:38:09.040 restrictions dropping the mask mandates and opening restaurants etc etc etc so you have an uh an increase

00:38:17.100 of prices of of any kind of pork products chlorine to treat swimming pools that price is skyrocketing

00:38:26.200 uh it's running out at some stores some pool technicians who use it can't even get their their

00:38:31.720 hands on it um swimming pool technicians are working six and seven days a week because they can't keep up

00:38:38.020 with it because of chlorine but one of the chlorine uh plants in fact the largest chlorine plant in the

00:38:46.820 country uh is creating you know some of the some of the problems um you try to get you try to get

00:38:55.560 somebody to work there you can't pay them enough uh with the storms that we have had uh the weather

00:39:04.180 that we had here in in texas that is hurting it that's also hurting styrofoam uh if you're blowing

00:39:11.980 insulation into your house and it's the styrofoam kind of the foam that listen to this one i don't know

00:39:20.040 if you heard this stew but chevron was promised by the state that they would never have a power outage

00:39:28.800 now would you believe the state if they told you it's a 100 guarantee that we will never have a power

00:39:40.140 outage no i would i would not i wouldn't either precautions on my own side i think now maybe if

00:39:46.420 i'm somebody who's just you know cooking in my house and i like okay but i've got i'm getting an

00:39:51.820 electric stove you'll never have a power outage okay maybe i believe them and then i'm inconvenienced

00:39:59.720 for a while but if i'm building a billion dollar industry a billion dollar structure and it's making

00:40:08.220 styrofoam and if the power goes out everything uh sets and congeals and now the plant is useless

00:40:17.420 i think i get a backup generator yeah you know i think i i think i don't roll that dice

00:40:24.040 uh so now styrofoam uh that will be any kind of styrofoam anything that is like that the biggest

00:40:33.500 maker of that the plant is down and uh chevron has come out and said they're working on a plan

00:40:41.740 to be able to reopen uh and fulfill some orders but they don't know what that plan is yet

00:40:49.720 so anybody who had an order in for this stuff you had they canceled all orders and said reapply and

00:40:57.700 we'll try to get you a price and a time so everything is going is skyrocketing at the same

00:41:06.020 time jobs are coming back and you can't hire anybody because you're not paying them enough

00:41:14.640 wait a minute really look at the unemployment numbers we there's a there's a problem getting

00:41:21.300 people to go back to work yeah because basically your unemployment now because of biden you can make

00:41:29.140 about 20 an hour on unemployment insurance so if you're working an average 40 hour a week you're

00:41:36.960 making you know 20 bucks an hour well why would i go take a job that's going to pay me 9 13 hell even

00:41:44.680 15 why would i take that job i'm losing five dollars an hour i don't think so

00:41:51.440 all of these things that are happening all of these things are happening are in in my view

00:42:02.400 a way to accelerate the universal basic income idea all of these problems with the exception of the 0.98

00:42:12.800 chevron plant well no even that one was man-made that was stupid um but all of these problems are 0.95

00:42:19.760 coming because of our policies and i told you years ago there's going to come a time we're in this place 0.98

00:42:26.540 where it's a giant crunch of of uh the industrial revolution except now it's the technological revolution

00:42:35.480 it's ai revolution it's a robotic revolution and there's going to be fewer and fewer jobs for

00:42:42.640 people to do and so the argument is universal basic income and we did a show on it years ago

00:42:49.320 because i said look you have to start thinking about these things now because truck drivers are

00:42:54.780 going to lose their jobs and there's going to be huge unemployment and you know high tech will be deemed

00:43:01.480 a bad guy government will be deemed a bad guy because they won't have a way out so what are you going to

00:43:09.060 do and when it hits it's going to be horrible well i think that they are they are moving us into

00:43:16.260 not working uh as uh as this as a result of this covid nonsense and covid is real the vaccines are real

00:43:29.080 uh i'm not a science denier or anything else i just think this is has been used for other purposes

00:43:36.740 have you read the story stew of of these business people that can't hire anybody i mean at all yeah

00:43:44.500 there's a piece uh in the dispatch today about that um talking about uh for example one diner owner

00:43:51.200 uh in ohio the diners now of course going out of business uh it's owned by the anderson's uh they

00:43:57.080 talk about how a line cook at dale's diner starts at eleven dollars an hour uh up two dollars an hour 0.95

00:44:02.060 over what it was before the pandemic so they've already gone from nine to eleven dollars an hour

00:44:06.140 um according to the owner that's four hundred forty dollars a week or seven hundred and sixty

00:44:11.400 dollars a month roughly 21k a year not including overtime or business it's a starter job right but

00:44:16.380 they're paying 11 bucks an hour 21k a year but pandemic driven unemployment often pays more

00:44:21.620 sometimes far more in ohio according to data from uh from uh the ohio department of jobs and family

00:44:27.020 services the state provided weekly unemployment benefits that averaged three hundred and forty

00:44:31.260 dollars add that to the unemployment supplements from the federal government which have ranged between

00:44:36.040 three hundred and six hundred dollars per week depending on which covid law funded them and you

00:44:41.060 have some workers paid between six hundred and forty and nine hundred and forty dollars per week to

00:44:45.560 stay home between thirty three thousand and almost fifty thousand on an annualized basis so if you're a

00:44:50.900 person who's looking at a job at a for a dishwasher and your your argument is do i work a full week for

00:44:58.400 four hundred and forty dollars or do i stay home for a minimum of six hundred and forty dollars and maybe up

00:45:04.060 to nine hundred and forty dollars what decision are you going to make and the guy who owns the diner

00:45:09.340 says that he would normally get you know he would put out you know a call for a new job and he would get

00:45:19.620 anywhere from six to twelve applications in the first week or whatever and we get to take our pick

00:45:23.720 we'll get to pick the best of the bunch within the last couple of months we don't even get a call

00:45:28.040 when he posts a job there there's a story in the new york post that's very similar to this

00:45:33.240 they're talking about um uh a firm a law firm that is offering forty thousand dollars for um

00:45:42.120 for uh you know just being an assistant you know an executive assistant forty thousand dollars is

00:45:47.720 starting pay they said that they are getting um calls and applications but when they call them

00:45:55.600 back and say hey we saw your application we'd love to have you come in for an interview

00:46:00.200 they're not they're not getting even callbacks and this law firm said it's because they're just

00:46:07.000 fulfilling their unemployment you know obligation you have you filed for any jobs you've been out

00:46:14.040 looking for a job yep i've sent my applications out they're not even returning the phone calls

00:46:18.500 i mean we are we are in um such a bad place and here's what's happening at the same time

00:46:25.400 did you see the taco bell in new york city i've seen lots of taco bells in new york city frankly

00:46:30.940 used to work there so there's there all the time yeah there's a new one that has um no order takers

00:46:37.820 it's all automated okay the entire taco bell is automated so you have some people working you know

00:46:46.960 there to keep the machines and keep things moving but they've cut the staff by more than half okay

00:46:54.620 so now these companies are having a hard time filling those jobs and at the same time technology

00:47:01.180 is able to replace those jobs those jobs aren't coming they're not coming back they're not coming

00:47:07.780 back also in houston i think it's pizza hut just introduced the first robotic driverless delivery

00:47:18.080 service so you order a pizza and it's on a trial basis now you have to opt in on it but you call for

00:47:24.600 a pizza you give the order you pay for it they give you a code um within 30 minutes this robot pulls up

00:47:32.860 in your driveway you go out you put the code into the side of it the side of this thing opens up and

00:47:40.000 there's your pizza and it's still warm because it's been this what this thing has been made to keep food

00:47:45.500 warm and that you know that the pizza isn't upside down there goes all of the pizza delivery entry jobs

00:47:52.620 i mean we are creating this perfect storm right now where universal basic income is going to be

00:48:00.820 embraced by people because they don't want to work anymore and then if they did they can't get a job

00:48:09.000 that's incredible i mean it's it's all lining up to that same thing i mean and it's andrew yang's

00:48:15.220 dream world here yeah and let me tell you this um the problem with all of this is is if you can't

00:48:22.200 get starter and entry level jobs how do you how do you how do you how do you find others how do

00:48:30.420 how do you replace people you know this is what clear channel did back in the 90s they just fired all

00:48:37.680 of these young people because the business wasn't viable anymore so they fired all the weekenders and 1.00

00:48:43.600 everybody else well now there's nobody in the industry that's coming up in the industry and so now you

00:48:49.940 have this this almost impossible thing to fill the jobs because you don't have any starter entry level

00:48:57.700 jobs how do you grow the next talent it's just this nasty cycle that we are we're beginning and we're

00:49:05.580 watching it unfold right in front of us

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