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On today's show, Glenn Beck sits down with Jason Buttrill to talk about the connection between Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-D.C.) and her connections to some of the most dangerous people in the Democratic Party.
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We've got a great podcast for you. We start with Ilhan Omar, the congresswoman, and her connections
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to really bad people, which is a special we're doing tonight on The Blaze TV. Yeah, you can
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check that out at blazetv.com, and you can use the promo code BEC to save 10 bucks to subscribe,
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but you should be subscribing already, and then you get to watch this show and so many others.
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This one's really, really important, and it's just part one of this. We've got other people
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to expose. Also, AOC's welfare call, she actually was talking about the welfare queens that President
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Reagan, who was a racist because he was talking about this group of people. Well, no, he wasn't.
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He was actually talking about one person in particular, and Pat brought that to play today.
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Yep, also go into parenting and your dating. Dating, your daughter beginning to date as
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one of our researchers. This had happened recently, and that's a scary, scary thought.
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Lindsey Graham has a new red flag gun confiscation bill, and the anti-capitalism talk at South by
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Southwest. How is that playing in Silicon Valley? And the meaning of all of this change with AI
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from an insider in Silicon Valley. You don't want to miss today's podcast.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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I want to bring in Jason Buttrill, who is our chief researcher and a guy that has worked with me
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for a very long time. And quite honestly, we're starting to find some things that are really spooky
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as hell. And I want to talk to you a little bit about socialism, because we found something,
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you know, when we were at Fox, we always talked about top down, bottom up, inside out. And we talked
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about how they did it to Hungary. Well, Hungary, actually, I don't know how we missed this.
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Hungary was not the first place the socialists tried it, the communists, and they started calling
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themselves socialists intentionally and changed language. The first place they flipped was
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Czechoslovakia, and they did it within three years. And it was a pro-free market civilization
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that wanted nothing to do with communism. And they flipped it behind the Iron Curtain in three years.
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We've just found something that was never supposed to come out from behind the Iron Curtain.
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And we found the the original plan on how to do it. And you are not going to believe
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how much of it has already been done here in just the last few years. Also, at that care thing in
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Chicago, this weekend, who is the Tlaib? Tlaib. Tlaib. She was speaking at the at the the care
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convention or hearing or whatever it was. And she was one of the keynote speakers. And she was talking
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about how, you know, we're here now, and we are in Congress and yada, yada, yada. And it was a pretty
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powerful, pretty powerful speech. They also have had a plan on how to infiltrate and take the nation
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through Hamas and Hezbollah. And we've told you about this for a long time. However, we I believe we are in
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a very dangerous state. Even Rahm Emanuel in Chicago is saying, you, you have to sanction,
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you have to sanction these people, because it's getting really bad. Tonight at five o'clock,
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we're going to begin a dialogue with you on just Congresswoman Omar. And what we have found on
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Congressman Omar is should wake you up. If you are a Democrat, and I don't mean a Democrat in
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Washington, I just mean an average Democrat, and you care about your country. You need to watch this
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you if you have a friend who's a Democrat, you have a friend who is Jewish, you have a friend who's not
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an anti Semite should be all of them. Send this episode to them. This is a very important episode.
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Jason, give me the just give us the headlines of, of what we've what we're going to reveal tonight and
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how we're putting it together. So when you first, when we first are talking about Omar, I, I just wanted
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to like see like, I was trying to find out where the origin of her anti Semitism was. So we just
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started looking at that. And the more and more I got into looking at that, her like entire like story
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is this weird, like spiral of crazy town. Yeah, we, we have to start the show tonight. And, and what's
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crazy is we have to start with something that is not verified. And I hate doing that. But the AP has
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done investigations and the AP says this isn't right far as there's something wrong here. And it leads
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us to believe these things, but we can't verify any of them because she has, she has deleted all of it,
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or she is, she won't answer any questions on it. But there's some crazy things on how she and her
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family got into America that really need to be cleared up. Yeah, there's a, then that's just one
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there's, we're going to look at three different things that are not verified right now that if it
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hit anybody else, this, they, it would be like national scandals. It'd be plastered all over the
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media. There'd be investigative journalists at the New York times, Washington posts all over this.
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I know they would. These are big. And especially like she refuses to answer to any of these scandals.
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And not only that, she's actually gone in and looks like deleted evidence that would have proved it
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otherwise. And there is evidence really good solid evidence as the AP is. I mean, we're not just taking
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this from blog sites or something. We are looking at it and what is the closest to verified. And even the AP
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says, this is really pretty strong stuff here. And she keeps deleting these things.
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The perjury that she has committed on the way she or her brother or her husband came into the country.
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She testified on something and we have evidence tonight. That's an absolute total lie. And she knows it.
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And we're not the only ones who have said this, but we're probably now the biggest ones to say this.
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And you need to see it because in the next chapter and the tonight's episode, in the second tier,
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we go into her connections to Hamas, Hezbollah, you know, care, all of these really, really dark
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And yeah, you talked about infiltration into the government. I've never, I've been looking at this
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for a while and I've never seen it at the level that it is now. There was a, there was a shot of
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Linda Sarsour with a group of men last week when they went to go support Omar when this vote was
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So I sent, I sent Jason, a video that I found of Linda Sarsour and this group of men going in to
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Congresswoman Omar's office. And it was really odd. And there was a, I think a former Muslim woman
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from the Middle East who was videotaping it or she had her phone and she was like, what are you doing?
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What are you doing? And they're blocking her. And they obviously knew who she was and she knew who
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they were, but I didn't know. And I sent it to Jason and I said, Jason, look at this. What's
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I don't know if I should say now who that was, because I don't want to spoil like this. This is
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insane. But the main person that's there, let's just say he has been outed in court documents.
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He has been labeled as the FBI, by the FBI as someone that supports, uh, in a roundabout way,
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terrorism. Yeah. Uh, yes. Like it's fully documented the organization that he's, that he is the head of.
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Um, I don't know why people aren't talking about it today as far as what, how they were established
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and what their end game is, what their goal is. Everyone just seems to have forgotten. And I just
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can't believe it. Like I would, if I was the FBI or DOJ, I would be starting an investigation
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today. This is weird because I was, uh, I was listening to CNN today. They didn't talk about
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this at all. They did mention, however, that Donald Trump had a picture taken with a person
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who ran the spa chain that Robert Kraft went to. Oh my gosh. Um, now she didn't, she doesn't
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currently run it, but she ran it, she opened it and then sold it. And she hasn't been working
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there for a long time, but that is unfrickin' believable. When you see this, when you see
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this tonight, when you see this, you, you will be much more angry at the mainstream media
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than you already are because this is locked down with an exception of the opening segment,
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which I will clearly say this part, we don't know because we can't get the information because
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she keeps deleting it. But we give you the, a very strong case and a very strong case, uh,
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that is verifiable that she committed perjury on her way, uh, in front of an immigration court.
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Um, and it's, it's 100% verifiable. So when we show that, and then we come back after the break
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and show you the second part, I'm telling you, you are going to know when, when the president
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says, uh, the press is the enemy of the people. I I'm uncomfortable with that. I don't like that
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language, but when you look at what's happening here and they are focused on somebody who owned
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a spa years before anything bad happened to it. And Donald Trump took a picture with that woman.
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They are the enemy of the people. They're the enemy of the Republic because they're not
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doing their job. If we had a bunch, I don't care if they were the best, uh, of pilots in the world,
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the best fighter pilots in the world. If they were sitting on their bunks while a squad of F-16s from
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any other dangerous country were flying in. If we had a bunch of guys, the best in the world
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sitting at NORAD and they saw missiles launched from North Korea. And they were like, you know
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what guys, did you see what Donald Trump tweeted last week? And they were, they decided to go play
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games. I would say they were the enemy of the United States. Well, that's the kind of misconduct
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that is happening right now. And that's just on this one topic. I want to come back and talk to
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Jason about socialism. Uh, and what we also found this weekend that is mind boggling.
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She does. She was out at the, uh, South by Southwest and they loved her. Oh my loved her.
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You know, that CNN panel we played for you last week. Uh, they all said none of them wanted Joe
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Biden for president. Every one of them. Well, there are only six, but still all of them love
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She's just so great in the future of the party. Really? She's wrong on
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everything. She is so ignorant on, on virtually every single issue. Here's what she said at South
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by Southwest about Ronald Reagan. This is amazing. I think a perfect example of how special interests
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and the powerful have pitted white working class Americans against brown and black working class
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Americans in order to just screw over all working class Americans. The unions, is she going to put
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unions here? I assume is, um, you're going to be surprised. No, she's not Reaganism in the eighties
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when he started talking about welfare Queens, right? So you think about this image, welfare Queens,
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think about that. And what he was really trying to talk about was he's painting this photo. He's
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painting this like really resentful vision of essentially, uh, black women who were doing
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nothing that were sucks on our country. Right. And it's this whole tragedy of the commons type of
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thinking, thinking where it's like, because these one, this one specific group of people that you
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were already kind of subconsciously primed to resent, you give them a different reason. That's
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not explicit racism, but still rooted in a racist caricature. Um, it gives people a logical re a
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logical reason to say, Oh yeah, no, toss out the whole social safety net. Okay. She's so wrong on
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everything. Now, what she doesn't mention is that Ronald Reagan wasn't even talking about a group of
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people. He was talking about one specific person and giving an example of how in some cases the
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welfare system is completely out of control. He was talking about Linda Taylor. He never mentioned
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her by name, but that's who this was. Uh, he said, there's a woman in Chicago. She has 80 names,
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30 addresses, 12 social security cards, and she's collecting veterans benefits on four
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non-existing deceased husbands. Uh, he said, and she's collecting social security on her cards.
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She's got Medicaid getting food stamps, and she's collecting welfare under each of her 80 names.
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Oh my gosh. Her tax-free cash income alone is over $150,000. This is in the eighties.
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1976, 76, 1976. She's like 500 grand or more. And the woman was mostly white. She was not black.
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She claimed to be black a few times. No, no. She had a Native American heritage.
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Alexandria knows best. I'm telling you, she knows best.
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I, it's, she's so dangerous because people are responding to her. Well, listen to this. Uh,
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for anybody who, for anybody who says that they're not gonna get rid of, they're socialists. That's,
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that's a different kind of socialism than in Venezuela.
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Layla. I want you to hear what she said this weekend about capitalism. Here it is.
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Um, isn't to me is it's an ideology of capital. It puts capital. The most important thing is the
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concentration of capital. Yep. And it means that we seek and prioritize profit and the accumulation
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of money above all else. Yes. And we seek it at any environmental cost. Yes. That is what that
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means. That's what that means. That ideology is not sustainable. Not. It's not. Right. Well,
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if that's what, hang on just a second, look deeply into her eyes. She knows best. That's what
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capitalism means to her. Yeah. Well, that's not what capitalism actually means. Although it's based on
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capital. I got that because it's part of the word capitalism. Right. Right. Yes. I like the part
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where, cause I mean, how many times in our secret meetings of capitalists have we discussed the idea
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that we want to enrich a few people at any human cost? Any, it's almost on our, of our bumper stickers.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's just such an obvious thing. It's the first thing said at all of our, um,
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based on capital meaning. Yeah. We all repeat it at any human or an environmentalist cost.
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It's like, in fact, we like it better when it hurts people. Yeah. That's it. It's more fun that
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way. It makes the money sweeter. It does. It tastes just a little better. They say blood diamonds are
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bad. Blood diamonds. Oh, blood capital is the way to go. Blood money is delicious. I love it. I mean,
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it's so ridiculous. How can anybody take her seriously? But they do. They do. They do. Listen to this.
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They do. This is a new poll. Uh, this is from, um, Axios. Uh, generation Z has more positive view
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of the word socialism than previous generation along with millennials. It's because they don't
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know what social, you don't want to know what socialism is Venezuela. It's the new diet plan.
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It's sweeping the world. You'll lose a hundred pounds in 60 days. They are more likely to embrace
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socialist policies and principles than any past generation. Government should provide universal
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health care. Millennials and generation Z 73%. Just so you know, the whole population is now 66.7.
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You want to talk about moving the Overton window. When we talked about this 10 years ago and said,
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they're moving to a single payer system. They're moving to a government run system. We were crazy.
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We were crazy. That will never happen. Racist government should provide tuition free college.
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Wow. Millennials in general and generation Z 67%.
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I prefer living in a socialist country 37% general population 49% millennial and generation Z.
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And 37% is way too high. Way too high for the general population.
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Go for it. Go for it. They're all looking for new people to support their system. Socialist
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countries are more than happy to welcome you if you have any money at all to pay for any of the
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programs because they're all in desperate trouble and then need, need more money. So they're going to
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have, they'll welcome you if you want to go to one. Just don't screw our thing up.
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Uh, support abolishing ice 29.7 for the general population, millennial and generation Z 43.1.
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Ava September 11th, and you'll see how much you enjoy it. High earnings result of free enterprise,
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67% of the general, uh, millennial and generation Z is 71%.
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That's reversed on that one, by the way. Uh, go on. Uh, the, the average population thinks,
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uh, free enterprises helping with wealth, uh, more than the younger generations, all the other
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ones that you're reading that backwards. Cause we have a, that's why, uh, oh, you're kidding.
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Yeah. Right. So this one is actually, again, once again, the average population is saying,
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wait a minute. Okay. Yeah. Free enterprise is a good thing leading to positive things, high earnings.
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Yes. And what is, what do the millennials think high earnings are a result of, uh,
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's will? I don't know. Government should allow, should allow private
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insurance. Only 78% of millennials and no 78% of the general public. If you see the darker line there,
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says, yes, 78% the general public does agree with that. That's it. I mean, that's an amazing,
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uh, uh, the, the bottom line here, I guess, is if you look at this stuff is that, you know,
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there always has been this situation where you start off as you're younger, right. And you embrace
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these sort of ridiculous ideas. And as over time with life experience, you wind up becoming more
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conservative, right? Like we've seen that. It used to be the thing of no one goes the other way.
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You don't start off really conservative and then wind up being liberal. It's very rare for that to
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occur. As we see here, I mean, the further we get down this road, even if they back off from
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some of these claims, they're still socialists, right? They're still so far past what the American
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people. And, and for the generation Z and the millennials, they, uh, first of all,
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the education system has warmed them up to socialism. No, it doesn't warm them up. It is.
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It is served them. It's put them on. Yes. And they're on fire for it now. And, and the other thing
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is they haven't seen socialism at its worst in their lifetime, except Venezuela, Venezuela. And
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they're told Venezuela is not a good example of socialism. Look at Denmark. I want to, I want
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someone on the staff dedicated. I don't care if it takes a week. I want somebody on the staff dedicated
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to going back and looking for every single celebrity that said this great socialist system
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in Venezuela, where the hell are they? Yeah. Where are they now? Where are they? Those people
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are now starving on Penn. Yeah. That, that held this all up as great socialism and the, and what we
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should have. Yeah. I do not want people to forget who brought that misery onto people. Do you know
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that 17 children died this weekend because the hospital, they were in neonatal care and the
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hospital lost electricity? Yeah. The whole city one hospital, right? That was just one hospital.
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Yeah. One of the hospitals, 17 children died. What, what is, where are you, Danny Glover? Where are you,
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Sean Penn? Where are you? All you Hollywood phonies that say, this is what we should have. Oh,
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well, maybe they just didn't do it right this time. Well, you know, Hitler didn't do socialism right
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either. Neither did Mussolini. Neither did Franco. Neither did Stalin. Neither did Pol Pot. Neither
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than Mao. I mean, how many more do you need? You're talking about taking away the free market. Do you know
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why they ran out of electricity? Because the country that is the most oil rich in the world,
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couldn't deliver any oil? Hmm. Why? Because the government said they could do it better than the
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private sector. And that's what you get. Yeah, that's what you get. And in the middle of that is
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when we're seeing this rise of socialism here in the United States. It's incredible. It's incredible
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that that is happening at the same time. You've got 15 candidates running for president in the United
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States. And I mean, by any measure, other than right now, at least 12, 13, 14 of them will be
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considered socialists. I mean, now they're only probably only what three or four will admit to that
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or cop to that. They might praise Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, but only, you know, the Bernies of the world are
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really going to admit to it fully. I mean, Elizabeth Warren, I don't even think claims to be a democratic
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socialist. But still, I mean, by any measure of any time, these people, you'd be at least half this field,
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half this field was whitewashed by the Obama administration. Half this field was brought in
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and whitewashed, made to look, okay, they're all fine. They're all fine. Don't worry. They're not
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crazy radicals. That's what, that's the real legacy of Barack Obama. That is the thing that history will
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go back and look at. They will look at, he opened this door for the radical socialist Marxist to come
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through. And they did. And they set up shop. They knew exactly what they were doing. And they set up
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shop. And we're sitting around like a bunch of dummies. Oh, gee, I think maybe, well, I don't know.
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They don't say they're really socialist. They really want Sweden. Watch what you're saying
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with we, right? I mean, like not this audience. The country. You were saying it. We said that every
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night. I know. The country is sitting around saying mainly our democratic neighbors and friends.
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These guys, they are putting their head in the sand. And it is becoming, when you have
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Rahm Emanuel standing up and saying, guys, you're, you need to censure these people and they're
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Democrats. When Rahm Emanuel says you have to censure these people and they don't. Rahm Emanuel is not
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exactly a mainstream guy. We didn't think of him as mainstream 10 years ago. Now he's, now he's out.
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He's the voice of reason. He's the voice of reason. Hard to believe.
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And it drives me nuts. This is, tonight is a, a very important show. And it is beginning of this,
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this next, um, season here before summer. We are, we are going to be exposing and connecting the dots
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like we used to at Fox and show you what's really going on tonight. Uh, Congresswoman
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Omar and her, the history of her life and who she's connected to and nothing to see here.
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tonight's show, please. And then spread it to your friends, especially Democrats. They have to wake
00:28:42.260
up onto who these people are. There are really dangerous people. And tonight it just happens to
00:28:51.240
be, uh, Congress, Congresswoman Omar. And so he's been dealing with this. And at the same time
00:28:57.880
dealing with your daughter, can I bring this up? Yes. Dealing with your daughter who is, um,
00:29:05.380
who's dating. You know, you've had me look into some very scary things before. Yes. And I've like
00:29:12.120
walked away from work with a just complete pale face. Right. And that pales inconsiderate, you know,
00:29:16.940
you were, you were actually in and around when the hairy back guy after nine 11 was interrogated.
00:29:24.360
Yeah. So you've, you've been around some spooky things. Doesn't even compare. Not at all. Yeah.
00:29:29.340
Yeah. I, my, my daughter now, she turned 16, uh, back in December and I was like, okay, this was how
00:29:35.620
it went for me. Like my mom said that you can date when you're 16 years old. Yes. That was a huge,
00:29:40.560
like, you know, pivot point in my life. So I was like, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to give
00:29:43.960
that to her too. She, you know, I trust her, you know, she's very responsible. It was 16. And, um,
00:29:50.500
so I was like, okay, fine. But I, you know, that's one of the things you just kind of say,
00:29:53.140
but you don't even really think it's going to happen soon. Yeah. But lo and behold,
00:29:56.860
two weeks ago happened. And, uh, so I had a rule, right? I had, I had a rule, but I didn't,
00:30:03.900
I didn't, you had a rule. I had a rule of how this was supposed to play out. I just didn't
00:30:08.360
properly like convey it, I guess. Cause I was just kind of like, okay, yeah, you can date
00:30:12.240
now, but I didn't fully go into it. All right. But, um, the rule was supposed to be, yes,
00:30:17.660
you can date. If the gentleman comes to the house, I meet him, hands are shaken.
00:30:22.700
A gentleman. Uh, yeah, very lightly, you know, but, um, but so that, that was supposed to be
00:30:29.740
the rule. Well, I get a call from a very nervous wife, um, a couple of weeks ago, your wife from
00:30:36.020
my wife. And she's like, okay. Um, yeah, I don't know how to tell you this, but this is like a
00:30:41.240
Tuesday. And, uh, yeah, Alexa just went on her first date and I was like, what? Like, what do you
00:30:49.320
mean? She's going to go on like on Friday? Like, no, she goes, no, she's there now. And I was like,
00:30:54.840
what are you talking about? And she's like, well, apparently this, you know, boy asked her and
00:30:59.640
he's very, very hardworking. He works on the weekends. He couldn't come to the house, you
00:31:04.000
know, and do all that. So he just wanted to take her to a movie and like a coffee, you know, a quick
00:31:09.080
coffee, like right after the movie and we'll pick her up at like, like five. And I am just like
00:31:13.980
instantly, you know, as a dad, like your world just ended, you know, like everything just
00:31:19.180
stopped. So you didn't meet the boy. No, please tell me you were there to meet him when you
00:31:25.280
went to pick her up. All right. So critique me here. So this is how I handled it. I was
00:31:28.920
like, so I had this full speech ready to go when she got home. We'll get into that later.
00:31:32.940
But then like, so like we go to pick him up and, um, you know, I'm rocking my best. Like
00:31:38.620
I'm in a tank top, even though it was like 30 degrees outside, the windows down, gun oil,
00:31:43.980
on your hands. Yeah. Like, like you can't see this on radio, but like, you know, I'm
00:31:47.020
like kind of like doing the flex mode as I'm leaning on the window. And so like they're
00:31:52.480
sitting at this coffee shop. She knows I'm about to pull up. I pull up. And then my wife
00:31:56.760
is like hiding her eyes. Cause she's like nervous about what's about to happen. My son's in the
00:32:00.700
back seat cracking up and, uh, I see them. He looks over and I kind of like give him like
00:32:07.200
the little stink eye and he like kind of smiles and does a little wave. Turn my head 90 degrees
00:32:13.880
the other direction. You get out of that car, dude. You get out of the car. I like, but
00:32:21.120
see, I wanted to like, so I, I didn't want to embarrass her. Right. So I didn't want to
00:32:25.200
embarrass her at that point. First of all, that is a parent's number one job. Okay. You embarrass.
00:32:32.660
If you haven't said to your children, Hey, uh, you're going to a movie. Great. Uh, you can
00:32:40.780
go to the movie. Um, I'm just going to go and dance with a t-shirt that I made with your
00:32:47.580
face on it. That says my daughter, and I'm going to dance in the lobby in, uh, sandals
00:32:54.160
with white socks and shorts and then do it. Okay. So like I'm debating that strategy actually
00:33:01.200
as we're doing this, but, but I'm like, I don't, I don't, this was like very, very critical.
00:33:05.500
I saw this as a very, very like pivotal moment. So I'm like, I don't want to completely turn
00:33:09.740
her off, you know, and completely embarrass her cause I don't want to turn her against
00:33:12.800
me because she's 16. Like, I know you know all about this, but like there, this is, you
00:33:17.980
can never predict those emotions at that age. So you're getting, you're getting, you'll
00:33:21.600
get here. I can't predict emotions of my wife. That's true. Yeah. Um, but so anyway,
00:33:28.740
so we get home and I'm like, uh, you know, Alexa family room right now. And my wife's
00:33:34.160
following and I was like, okay, first off, I just want to say, I think it's really cool.
00:33:37.640
You know, that this, this boy asked you out. Second of all, it'll never happen this way
00:33:42.220
again. And I was like, this person has to meet me. He has, if he wants to take you out,
00:33:47.280
he has to come to the house. He has to come inside. We have to talk. I was like, I will
00:33:52.460
not make it embarrassing. I promise. I will not be cleaning a gun. Don't ever promise. Uh,
00:33:56.200
you know, at the same time, you're a fool, but, but I was like, but that's, but he was
00:34:01.520
like, but he's not going to want to date me if he does this. And I was like, and that
00:34:03.940
is exactly the thing, the type of person I'm trying to protect you. He's not willing to
00:34:08.140
do that. Nope. Right. Nope. It's no big deal. It's no big deal. It's common courtesy. Now
00:34:14.560
she said, but it's not, it doesn't work that way anymore. Dad. Like, well, it does in my
00:34:18.760
house. She said the fifties, but I was, I was, this was the early nineties for me. Does in
00:34:24.500
my house. Oh, you know what? Then you know what does work? When I pulled up, he should
00:34:31.020
have walked over to the car and introduced himself to me. Yeah. It shows me he's a, he's
00:34:35.760
a boy of poor character. Yeah. Well, I was giving him a ticket to the gun show. So I, maybe
00:34:40.700
he was a little bit intimidated at that point. I doubt it. I've seen you in a tank top, unfortunately,
00:34:45.100
and I don't think he was intimidated. You got it. Maybe in the military days, my friend,
00:34:48.900
you have military friends. You know, you were in military Intel. What is wrong with
00:34:55.100
you, man? Well, you do a psych op on, on, on this young boy. Well, I have an update.
00:35:00.900
It's no longer needed that to go to that step. Okay. Because a week goes by and I'm like,
00:35:06.440
you know, Alexa, I told you you're game on to do this. Like what's happened? She's like,
00:35:10.200
well, you know, make a long story short. He didn't want to come and do that. He didn't
00:35:15.160
want to come to the house and do the meetup. Wow. Did not want to do that. And I was like,
00:35:19.220
go back to him. Say, look, it's game on. My dad is cool. You know, like that's all it is. It'll
00:35:23.960
be really quick. It'll take literally 60 seconds and then you'll be out and we'll go do whatever.
00:35:29.340
He did not want to do it. So I like this was this past Friday. Uh, I mentioned it again. She goes,
00:35:36.240
dad, do not bring up the name of that boy. I do not want to talk about him. I never want to see him
00:35:40.340
again. I was like, this is what I was protecting you from. Listen to me. Good. So it did it. I
00:35:46.080
know. I think that the psyop was like the next step, but wasn't even needed. So if you're looking
00:35:51.500
into asking, it's always needed. It's always needed just for fun. You sound like there's
00:35:56.600
some experience. Uh, you had some experience. Oh, Oh me. No, no, no, no, no. I will tell you
00:36:02.900
that I knew who my daughter was going to marry because of, of she would, she would bring the
00:36:10.860
boy and the boy had to meet dad and, and everything else, you know, and then she goes
00:36:15.360
to college and when she's dating this boy, she doesn't tell me at all. She's dating him
00:36:21.360
for a while. She doesn't tell him who I am either. And, uh, so she's just like this, you
00:36:28.840
know, so your folks, you know, what's your dad do? Uh, you know, he's in business. It
00:36:35.800
was that kind of thing. She didn't say anything. He's an entrepreneur. He's an entrepreneur.
00:36:39.720
Oh, that's really cool. Until the night before she said, you have to go meet my dad. And then
00:36:47.100
she said, he was clueless. He was just clueless. He said, uh, okay, who's your dad? And she said,
00:36:53.300
Glenn Beck. And he said, okay, so who is he? And she said, Glenn Beck. And this is in New
00:37:01.340
York at the height of, you know, everybody saying I'm the antichrist. And, uh, she said
00:37:06.440
Glenn Beck. And he said, I, I don't know who that is. And she said, yes, you do. And he
00:37:11.920
said, no, I, I don't. And she's like, now she's getting offended. No, my dad's a big deal.
00:37:17.660
And so she's going off on this. So he says, it's no big deals. No big deal. He goes home
00:37:24.500
and he Googles. Oh no. Now he's up all night now because he's been Googling and it's me going
00:37:33.900
you little pinhead, get off my phone, all of that stuff. And he comes in and the, the, the
00:37:40.480
office doors open. This is when we had a corner office in, in Manhattan opens up. We have the
00:37:46.180
whole floor and right by the elevators are all these crazy pictures of me, you know,
00:37:51.920
life size of doing crazy things. And he's just, he's just like a scared rabbit. Now he
00:37:59.640
met you in the office. He met me in the office with the corner office, like overlooking New
00:38:04.000
York city. And I said, and I said, and I said, uh, I looked at because of, because my daughter
00:38:08.940
was so, because I had done all of the psyops before, um, my daughter was doing on him and
00:38:17.860
she, she comes in and she sits down and he sits down and I said, nice to meet you, Tim.
00:38:24.020
And he's like, yes, sir. Nice to meet you. And, and Hannah said, you know, I think I'm just
00:38:30.300
going to leave you two alone. And he looked at her like, good God, no, no, he's going to
00:38:34.520
throw me out of one of these windows. She left and we had a nice conversation and I didn't
00:38:40.020
have to do any of the, the, the operations that I had done before because I did them to
00:38:47.200
her early and she learned and she learned and she knew she prepared him for dad's going
00:38:54.960
to be, and I didn't have to be, I didn't have to be.
00:38:58.020
Thank you. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Ronald Reagan said freedom is never more than a generation away from extinction. And he was
00:39:20.540
absolutely right. The question is, is it this generation? We told you earlier on the
00:39:27.960
program about the latest poll on socialism. It is polling wildly favorably with, uh, everyone
00:39:35.540
who is under 40. Um, we have people now that are talking about openly at South by Southwest
00:39:42.700
calling capitalism, uh, a failed experiment and that it has no future capitalism, the free
00:39:57.960
So we know about socialism. We know that, um, about 99%, I think it's like 97% of the American
00:40:11.120
population cannot name the five freedoms guaranteed in the first amendment, let alone the 10 amendments
00:40:21.600
in the bill of rights. Now, these are the things that the government cannot must not ever violate.
00:40:29.600
If we don't know them, we lose them. The second amendment is the one that everybody seems to
00:40:35.420
talk about, but they don't seem to understand the words thou shalt not or not thou shall not
00:40:42.020
shall not, the government shall not, uh, uh, infringe. See if this is an infringement.
00:40:50.840
Uh, they have announced now a red flag gun confiscation bill and the hearing is set for the end of this
00:40:59.900
month and they're looking for common ground. Now, when I say they've said it and looking for common
00:41:07.780
ground, they believe they can find it, who is it that's saying that it's the GOP. The GOP says that
00:41:16.960
they have a common sense red flag confiscation bill. They've set the hearing and when Lindsey Graham
00:41:28.620
announced it, he said that he had spoken with the president about the bill and that president Trump
00:41:35.660
is on board. Now, what is the bill? It's Senate bill number seven and it would use federal funds to
00:41:44.600
help States implement extreme risk protection orders. Now, what is that? Stu, what do you think
00:41:52.320
that is an extreme risk protection order? This is the sort of thing that was discussed about,
00:41:59.160
I want to say it was Parkland afterwards, because the idea is a lot of people had
00:42:05.360
an indication that this student may be a problem and everyone around him said, yeah, we knew he was
00:42:15.500
dangerous or there's nothing we could do about it. So this is, and that's not even true in the Parkland
00:42:19.460
shooting. That's not, I'm not saying it's true. Yeah. The school had the ability to do something.
00:42:24.120
They didn't. The, the, the, um, uh, the FBI had the ability to do something. They didn't. The police
00:42:31.680
had the ability to do something. They didn't. Right. Um, however, this is an idea that if there's
00:42:36.900
a bunch of people around you, uh, you could say, if we all think that, you know, this person is a,
00:42:42.540
he's a danger. He's got a lot of guns. He's making me nervous. So we could go into somehow the,
00:42:48.320
a judge, the government and say, Hey, this guy's a real problem. And hopefully they would look into it.
00:42:54.120
Okay. That's the theory behind the red flag. Yeah. Let me, let me tell you, uh, what the red flag
00:43:01.100
extreme protect risk protection order will actually do. If anyone is accused, anyone is accused of
00:43:12.200
committing a crime or thought to be of danger and has a weapon, they are taken away. The police will
00:43:23.140
be able to confiscate skate guns based on nothing more than hearsay of a disgruntled family member
00:43:30.380
or friend, or perhaps somebody who really does know. But how many times do you think
00:43:38.960
if you are a gun lover and you're getting a divorce and it's ugly, if you, let's say, are a gun lover
00:43:48.960
and you cheated on your spouse or you cheated on your girlfriend and she wants revenge? Do you think
00:43:56.360
there's a chance she might go to police and say, by the way, I just want you to know, I think he's a
00:44:02.780
danger. You don't have to be mentally ill. If you have an argument with a neighbor, they'll be able to
00:44:09.520
turn you in just saying, I think you might be, he might be dangerous and they have to go in and take
00:44:17.060
your weapons and they take them for a year. There's no oversight to this, no judge ruling on whether
00:44:26.540
this is a legitimate claim. Nope. They would be able to, uh, a judge would be allowed to take your
00:44:32.880
judge, your guns and suspend your second amendment rights for up to a year after they've been taken.
00:44:41.220
Um, but you don't even hear that side of the story. You don't, you don't, you're not,
00:44:46.880
you're not there. They're, they can take your guns. They listen to the person and they can keep your guns
00:44:54.240
for up to a year. This is what happened in Gary Willis in Maryland. It happened last year. An angry
00:45:00.720
family member wanted to get back at him after having an argument. He told police that he needed
00:45:05.040
to have his guns taken away. An officer showed up at five o'clock in the morning, demanded that he
00:45:10.680
surrender all of his firearms. He refused. A scuffle broke out and he was shot and killed by police.
00:45:18.120
He was never charged with anything. It was a disgruntled neighbor. And he's like, you can't come
00:45:25.540
into my house and just take my guns. This is a GOP bill. Instead of police or prosecutors having to go
00:45:37.320
to a judge and say somebody is mentally ill or they broke the law. The burden of proof is completely
00:45:46.240
shifted. It is now shifting to the gun owners having to prove that they are okay.
00:45:55.540
They have to prove after the guns have already been taken that they deserve to have their rights
00:46:02.700
back. The gun owner is not even invited to be at the hearing where the confiscation is first
00:46:09.660
declared. Imagine this without the rights. You'd have to prove your sanity before you were able to
00:46:14.700
speak freely. You, uh, you would have to prove you were worthy before things like, I mean, even like
00:46:20.160
voting, right? I mean, the whole point of the, I know it's, it's really hard to imagine a society
00:46:25.400
that says, let's say that you have to prove you're not a racist, um, because of something
00:46:31.660
that you tweeted or are you, you have to prove, uh, that you didn't, uh, sexually assault someone.
00:46:38.800
Um, but they claimed it online and the population has declared you a rapist or, or whatever.
00:46:47.600
It's institutionalizing what we have in like a Twitter mob culture.
00:46:54.340
It's very scary, especially when it comes to a constitutional right. I mean, again, like you're
00:46:59.140
not allowed to infringe this if you want to. Here's an idea where there, this is a situation
00:47:03.920
where a random person can start saying that you, they feel you're unstable and that right
00:47:09.040
goes away. Not because you've been convicted of something, not because they can just dislike
00:47:13.000
you, uh, you know, a doctor or say, you know, somebody has said at least with some authority
00:47:18.200
that you have a instability mentally, or you've been, you know, confined to an institution and
00:47:23.500
they take them first. Then they show you the case. That's not, I mean, that's, that's not
00:47:29.760
not be constitutional. It's, this is the Republicans. This is Lindsey Graham. I mean, I don't think
00:47:35.780
Lindsey Graham cares at all about the constitution. I mean, he, he's, you know, but I mean, if
00:47:39.400
that's our friends, right. Who needs enemies? Right. All right. There's another, imagine
00:47:44.600
what Bernie Sanders does as president of the United States. Oh, they, I mean, did you see
00:47:48.520
the, did you see the California rep that, that came out and said the only way to really
00:47:52.440
control, uh, guns is to, is to change the second amendment and ban all guns. And they're
00:47:58.440
now starting a petition to, to repeal the second amendment. Good for him. First of all, because
00:48:04.620
he's right. Yes. The only way to, uh, to, to infringe on people's gun ownership rights
00:48:10.000
is to repeal the second amendment. Now that's only the very beginning of that process. And
00:48:14.160
you're not going to like the other steps because then after that were to happen, uh, states
00:48:18.660
all over the place, would you put it in their state constitution and you'd have to pass a
00:48:21.920
whole nother, uh, yes, amendment that would ban. So you'd have to repeal and ban at the
00:48:27.420
same time, which would be even harder. Then you'd have a society with 400 million guns
00:48:32.540
on it with, let's say 300 million of them, uh, in the hands of people who have no intention
00:48:37.780
of giving them back to you. So good luck going door to door to collect 300 million guns around
00:48:44.700
this country. They won't do it though. They'll do it like they did in Germany, German. Remember
00:48:49.120
the German people, they, they were hunters. They went out and they shot their own food. There
00:48:53.740
were a lot of guns in Germany. So what did they do first? They did the national database.
00:48:58.220
So they knew exactly who had what guns. Then instead of confiscating, you had to turn them
00:49:04.980
in. Right. And it was, uh, it started out, I think is a 10 year penalty if you didn't.
00:49:10.820
And then after a few months, they gave you a warning and said, by the way, anyone seen with
00:49:18.340
a gun will be shot. No questions asked. So then those people who didn't turn in their guns were
00:49:26.380
actually shot going to the police station, trying to turn their guns in. That's why the population
00:49:33.140
was, was toothless. When, when Hitler really started doing bad things, there was no one that
00:49:39.160
could stop them because they had all the guns. Right. I mean, by the way, uh, just a quick side
00:49:44.640
note in 2012, uh, that's when Venezuela lost their right to guns because, uh, uh, that wonderful
00:49:52.600
utopia, socialism utopia. Um, yeah, they, they thought that guns would be dangerous in the hands
00:49:58.080
of the people. So that's why they can't fight back. Just want to throw that in there.
00:50:02.980
Interesting. Interesting parallel there. Uh, yeah. I mean, I think that, look, the, that this would
00:50:07.860
be almost impossible to do in the United States. Almost impossible because I don't think so.
00:50:12.400
What? I don't think so. No, I'm not, you don't, you think, just look, this population, you think,
00:50:18.340
uh, with the culture that has been ingrained here, the most heavily armed, they always say this as
00:50:21.860
an insult, the most heavily armed society in, in the history of the planet. Well, yeah, yeah,
00:50:26.880
we are. Uh, it's because this, uh, this whole guaranteeing people's rights, right to bear arms has
00:50:30.960
put together a country that is almost impossible to go door to door. Think about this. Our military,
00:50:36.700
the best military in the history of the world, look at the problems it's had going door to door to
00:50:41.200
root out people like ISIS and the Taliban and Al Qaeda in countries that have almost
00:50:46.060
no weapons compared to what we have. Can you imagine trying to go door to door to collect
00:50:51.280
300 million guns in this country? They will make an example of a few people. They will come to the
00:50:58.220
doors of, you know, Wayne LaPierre or me, and they'll say, turn over your guns. And I'll say no. And
00:51:04.900
then they'll make an example. Well, your guns, though, you're not a good example because all your guns
00:51:08.480
were lost. Well, yeah, they were, they were, they were lost. There's a pterodactyl that came in and
00:51:12.860
picked them. I don't know. That's just one theory. Okay. I think that's a crazy one, but, uh, they're
00:51:18.380
all gone now. I was just on my way to report them. Uh, it's missing. Oh, yeah. But remind me, because if
00:51:24.480
I don't report them, I'll have to report them. You know, I got it. I got it. Just remind me. Yeah.
00:51:28.680
I got it. That's just a terrible tragedy. Don't know what happened to them. Anyway, um, let me
00:51:33.560
tell you about what's happening now in Washington state. There is another gun law that is being
00:51:38.400
passed in Washington state that the sheriffs have said, we're not going to enforce. And I've told you
00:51:44.880
before, support your local sheriff because your local sheriff is the one who will stand between you
00:51:51.820
and your guns, you and the constitution or you and whoever wants to take the constitution away.
00:51:56.940
We're seeing this now happen in Washington state. And now they're coming after the sheriffs
00:52:02.280
because they are saying this is unconstitutional and we will not abide by this. We will not enforce
00:52:26.940
I look on my list of, uh, people that we're going to have as guests, uh, in upcoming days,
00:52:34.400
I looked at on Friday and I see, uh, Oren, uh, Hoffman, who is a guy who runs safe graph, which
00:52:42.080
this is how the company is described building geospatial truth sets.
00:52:48.000
Well, thank God somebody's doing that. Oh yeah. I've been thinking that for a long time. No idea
00:52:53.300
what that is described that way, but he's a guy who his company says data is really important and
00:53:01.140
there should be one like central library for it. And as long as all of the information, all of the
00:53:08.560
names and people are stripped out of it, it should be, there should be a place like a safe library.
00:53:14.300
So if you're an inventor and you're like, I need data on this, you can go get that data. It
00:53:19.300
shouldn't be held in the hands of so few because the more you open that data up, the more you're
00:53:26.200
going to be able to innovate while still protecting privacy concerns. Correct. So that's what his
00:53:30.880
company does. He's on the, uh, he's on the phone now. Oren, how are you? Hey, how are you?
00:53:36.520
Very good. Very good. You know, it wasn't me that put you on the list of people to come on.
00:53:42.140
Actually, it was Stu. He, he saw a tweet of yours and, um, he was, uh, he brought it to
00:53:48.900
me or he brought it to the producers. And then we were talking about the other day and
00:53:52.600
I'm like, I know, how did I not think of this? So welcome to the program. Glad to have
00:53:58.640
you here. Oh, well, I'm happy to be here. Thank you for inviting me. Uh, so we wanted to
00:54:04.180
talk to you really about a couple of things. First of all, we were just talking about data
00:54:08.280
and how South by Southwest, all these politicians were out and they were all talking about socialism
00:54:14.860
and everything else. And Elizabeth Warren and, uh, Amy Klobuchar have now come out and said
00:54:21.300
they want to break these companies up to the point where Apple wouldn't be able to have an
00:54:25.600
Apple app on their app store. You know, it's crazy. Um, are you seeing any kind of, uh, fallout
00:54:32.800
or, or, or getting skittish at all on, on Washington out in Silicon Valley? Well, I think
00:54:39.800
there's definitely, there's definitely a movement of people that, that, that are taking this
00:54:46.460
like breakup very seriously, um, in Silicon Valley. And, um, there, you know, there are a
00:54:53.940
lot of people on different sides of things who find some of those arguments compelling.
00:54:58.940
And so I, I think, I think that will have a lot of legs over the next few years. And
00:55:03.480
it's a political argument that is, um, that we should expect to be made. Um, I'm, I'm concerned
00:55:11.020
about public private partnerships with some of these, uh, companies. Does that concern you
00:55:16.800
at all? Uh, what do you mean? You know, that these companies, because I feel like at some
00:55:23.180
point, uh, the politicians are going to know if we had, you know, our fingers in big tech,
00:55:30.720
we could use this to help move populations a certain way or whatever. Uh, and big tech
00:55:37.440
will know if we don't play ball with them somewhat, they're going to, they're going to just break
00:55:43.040
us up. So let's, let's get into bed fully with each other. Do you think that's a possibility?
00:55:48.760
I, I, that may be a bit, uh, higher than my pay grade. So I, I'm not, I'm not a hundred
00:55:57.040
percent sure whether that's a possibility or not. Okay. Um, let me talk to you a little
00:56:00.620
bit about, um, AI. Um, I just talked to somebody just last week who said they don't even think
00:56:08.800
that, you know, uh, artificial general intelligence is something that's going to happen. Uh, I've
00:56:15.440
talked to another friend who told me that DARPA is running an, uh, a, uh, algorithm. I don't
00:56:21.220
even know how this works. You probably would, uh, that, that is, is looking to see if anyone
00:56:26.360
has started any kind of artificial intelligence. He said that they told him privately that it
00:56:32.040
was, uh, uh, looking like somebody was either started it or on the verge of releasing some
00:56:39.600
sort of artificial intelligence. We're, if we, if it's not us, we're in trouble. Do you
00:56:47.740
That's right. Yeah. And there's varying degrees. We don't have to get all the way to AGI.
00:56:52.240
Every, every step in the direction of, of artificial intelligence is, is important for the United
00:56:58.400
States. If you just from like a middle as a military power, how far behind China are we?
00:57:04.540
Um, I'm not sure if we're behind China or not, but I do know that China and Russia, uh, both have,
00:57:12.260
uh, amazing engineering teams and they're working on this aggressively and it's a priority for both
00:57:17.760
countries. The last time we spoke, I asked you a question. I said, um, I feel like we need some
00:57:24.740
sort of a Manhattan project. You know, we have to, we have to do something, but I don't want a
00:57:28.960
Manhattan project because I don't trust the government. And yet I don't trust Google either. Who do we
00:57:33.820
trust? Yeah, I, I'm not sure. I, one, one kind of simple solution just could be to make sure that
00:57:43.160
the best AI scientists are in this country. Uh, and so, you know, if you, if you just think of
00:57:50.600
artificial intelligence as the most important battlefield and our rivals like Russia and China,
00:57:55.620
I think it also is the most important battlefield that we want as many of the top brains in AI
00:58:01.100
residing in the U S and having a positive attitude towards the U S. So you, what, what brought this
00:58:06.900
to Stu's attention was that you, uh, tweeted a while back that you thought we needed a Manhattan
00:58:13.560
project. And, and I want you to outline that, but it's not really a Manhattan project. Like I think
00:58:19.320
of a Manhattan project where it's the government actually running it. Uh, it's just the government
00:58:26.040
enabling people to come in. Is that how you see it? Yeah, exactly. In some ways, like it's similar
00:58:33.100
to get gathering, like the top rocket scientists post world war two. Um, you want as many of these
00:58:39.460
great AI engineers as possible. And there's likely less than 20,000 top researchers in AI in the world.
00:58:47.000
And at least half of them live outside the U S today. Um, and many of them live in places like
00:58:52.980
Canada, the university of Toronto is one of the top AI centers in the world, but they also live in
00:58:57.200
China and Russia, India, France, Israel, Iran, Germany, UK, Japan, South Korea, you know, many
00:59:03.320
of these countries. Um, and so we should have a system, I think, to identify these people, uh,
00:59:09.420
and then to attract them to the U S either give them some sort of special visa, give them things
00:59:14.740
like stipend visa for their spouse, you know, some sort of fast track to becoming a citizen,
00:59:19.900
get these people here, get these people happy. Um, because we want as many of these people here
00:59:26.460
as possible. And there's not that many, we're not talking about hundreds of thousands of people
00:59:30.860
talking about maybe 10,000 worldwide to attract to the U S. Could we attract them? Cause I know these
00:59:36.720
countries are gobbling these people up and not letting them leave. Well, it might be harder to
00:59:43.320
attract them from Russia and China, but, uh, but you know, many of these people who are in other
00:59:48.940
countries would be very happy to live in the U S if, if we were able to give them a compelling reason
00:59:54.900
to come. What is the, for the average person or in people, um, they don't have, they, they don't
01:00:04.120
have a concept of what this means. Uh, they don't know why the government is, you know, so worried
01:00:11.220
about 5g explain what the world looks like with the AI that you think we could have soon.
01:00:22.420
Well, I think AI is, is just a very important for both, both attacking and defending militarily.
01:00:29.180
So AI can help. Um, if you just think of it as, as purely from a cyber warfare, AI is, is both really
01:00:37.520
important if you want to defend your, your assets. Um, so if you want to defend your, um, uh, you know,
01:00:44.020
nuclear assets or whatever else you're defending, and then also very important if you're attacking
01:00:49.200
other people's assets. And so, um, and it doesn't have to be AGI, like you mentioned at the top of
01:00:55.180
the show, it just could be some sort of incremental improvements over what we have today. Um, every
01:01:00.060
incremental improvement, um, makes you as a power, uh, more, you know, more fearsome, both as a
01:01:07.120
defender and as a, um, and on offense as well. We're talking to Aaron Huff, uh, Hoffman. He is,
01:01:13.760
um, the, um, the founder, are you the CEO too of, uh, SafeGraph? I am. Okay. Um, of SafeGraph,
01:01:22.080
uh, dot com, uh, from Silicon Valley. And I, I, um, uh, I know that you call yourself a optimistic
01:01:31.780
pessimist. I call myself an optimistic catastrophist. Uh, explain what an optimistic,
01:01:39.820
uh, pessimist is and why. Well, uh, I, I think it's important to, to, to be a realist. Uh, so I'm,
01:01:50.160
I'm optimistic about the future, but also a realist as well.
01:01:54.560
So, Arnie, we, a lot of, we've been spending a lot of time on this show talking about immigration
01:01:58.200
and a lot of it, the conversation tend, tends to go to a point where, okay, we're talking about
01:02:02.820
what's, what's, is there a wall is, you know, what's going on at the border, but there are a
01:02:07.820
lot of smart things I think we can do as far as immigration. And I think your policy, your idea
01:02:11.940
kind of stems part of that is part of that conversation is not just, it's not just making, um, uh,
01:02:19.440
you know, business easier for businesses to, to come in and, and, and operate in these circles.
01:02:23.700
But also when we're talking about attracting these scientists, it's maybe, do you think it's,
01:02:27.740
is it a special visa? Is it, uh, what, how do we actually get people to come here to the United
01:02:33.480
States to develop these things for us rather than for China or Russia?
01:02:38.120
So one thing is, I think it's really hard is just identifying these people. Um, and so, uh,
01:02:44.100
and having some sort of way of, uh, some sort of way where other core AI researchers vouch for you.
01:02:51.720
And there's some sort of way to identify these people. I don't think that that is such a simple
01:02:55.760
thing. Um, and especially for like a government entity to go do, uh, once we do that, making sure
01:03:02.020
that they can come here easily, that it's also really important that their spouse can work. Um, so
01:03:07.980
getting, getting, getting a simple way for their spouse can work and get a visa, getting some sort
01:03:12.140
of, um, uh, citizen fast track, uh, giving them other reasons to come in. Uh, you know, immigration
01:03:19.040
is, is really important for, uh, getting these top scientists here. I think maybe the debate is
01:03:24.700
almost over emigration. Um, and so I think that's what, where like something like a China or Russia,
01:03:30.940
they're probably less likely to let their top scientists emigrate. Um, they're probably very
01:03:35.780
happy to have people immigrate and they are trying to tap our top scientists. Uh, I don't know. So
01:03:44.480
that that's, that I haven't heard of that, but, but I do certainly they should be if they, if that's,
01:03:50.880
uh, certainly they should be. Yeah. Aron, thank you so much. Uh, we'll talk to you again. Appreciate
01:03:56.300
it. Aron Huffman. Absolutely. Thank you so much. You bet. CEO of, uh, SafeCraft. The Blaze Radio Network.