The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Avi Yemini, Mike Pompeo, & Rudy Atallah ｜ 9⧸27⧸21

00:00:00.000 Hello, you sick, twisted freak. It's Monday. Great program for you. We go to Australia 1.00

00:00:07.360 to talk just a wee little bit about the police beatings that seem to be happening on the street

00:00:13.860 in Australia now. We also have some really important news about banking and what you

00:00:21.960 should be concerned about, what you should be doing. A very personal message tucked in on the

00:00:27.420 show today. We give you an update on the Nazarene Fund from the guy who is actually doing all the

00:00:33.340 overseas work on it. We tell you a little bit about the FBI. We also tell you about the president's

00:00:39.680 lawsuit. I mean, the former president, not this president. I'm wearing my lawsuit right now.

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00:01:17.680 I don't know about you, but I've been trying to follow what's going on in Australia and I can't

00:01:27.400 get any of the news stories to match the video. The the news stories say that it was a bunch of

00:01:35.760 neo-Nazis dressed as construction workers and the police did no wrong, et cetera, et cetera. And that

00:01:42.720 may be the story. However, the video I'm seeing, I am seeing a video of construction workers, you know,

00:01:50.520 throwing bottles and everything else. But then I'm also seeing other videos where the police are just

00:01:56.800 taking people off the streets and just beating them, you know, Birmingham style. It it's I don't know

00:02:04.920 what the truth is. Avi Yemeni is the Australia Bureau chief for the Rebel News, a journalist in

00:02:13.880 Australia that has been following this. Avi, welcome to the program. What the heck is happening?

00:02:22.000 I know, it can sound very confusing. I think it's also confusing for Aussies that are here. 1.00

00:02:26.740 But I for Rebel News was in amongst it from the beginning. And I can tell you right now, there's no

00:02:34.160 Nazis there. It was the media really wants you to believe that and the unions want you to believe

00:02:40.000 that. That's the narrative that makes it easy for them to avoid taking any responsibility. But

00:02:44.760 essentially what happened in short is last week, there was a mandate. There's a mandate to be

00:02:52.400 introduced for the construction industry. And as you can imagine, there's a lot of union members

00:03:00.480 which feel like it's their union's job to represent and fight for their rights. That's essentially the

00:03:06.740 one thing they pay membership for. So they decided to go outside the union headquarters,

00:03:14.360 the construction, the construction union headquarters, and to speak to the union boss.

00:03:20.000 Now, it was about nine hours outside that office. And the boss kept pushing off when he's going to come

00:03:30.600 down and speak to his members until they gave an hour deadline. He'd said he was going to come down

00:03:36.860 to talk to them. And suddenly, news hits this crowd, which ends up being by that point about 2,000

00:03:44.340 members strong. Mostly 99% of them are construction workers union labor voters, labor voters, which are like

00:03:53.900 Democrats. So certainly not far right Nazis. And suddenly the news hits the crowd that the boss is actually on

00:04:03.380 the radio telling the audience, telling the state that it's just crazy far right extremist anti-vaxxers

00:04:13.340 and he doesn't know what they want from them. So obviously, that didn't go down too well with the crowd.

00:04:19.260 And that's where the violence actually started. Now, the videos you're seeing the next day and the

00:04:25.260 following day was an escalation by certainly by the police. And you had once the rest of the members

00:04:34.000 had seen that for the next day, you had probably 10 times that number roaming the streets.

00:04:40.280 There was certainly violence on both sides. But having said that, you know, the police escalated

00:04:46.980 to a point where they essentially turned their counterterrorism capabilities on the civilian

00:04:54.820 population, on these construction workers. In short, in summary, I think the government

00:05:00.680 overstepped it and picked on an industry that until now, they haven't done an industry that would fight

00:05:08.740 back and did fight back immediately and is continuing to fight back until the previous 18 months,

00:05:15.140 it's been, you know, 70 year old grandmas that they've been spraying in the face. And now,

00:05:21.940 now it's certainly a part of the population that won't take it lying down. And we can see how that

00:05:28.440 that is working. We're seeing those videos you're seeing is just capturing those moments. And so police

00:05:35.440 are certainly coming in very hard to anyone. I want to show the video while we continue to have

00:05:41.400 our conversation. There was some video that I saw last night of some people that were just pulled off

00:05:48.540 the streets. They were walking down the street one side and the police come from across the street and

00:05:57.600 just push this guy. Another one wings him down to the ground and they just start beating on him.

00:06:03.140 Oh my God. Oh my God. This is a, this is a different one, but here's, here's the police

00:06:10.780 beating on this guy.

00:06:17.240 Play the other, play the other clip, please. Can you play the other clip?

00:06:20.340 So they're stopping anyone that obviously looks like a construction worker.

00:06:27.980 Myself going for a walk, trying to get back to work. So you're here for a lawful reason?

00:06:33.620 Lawful reasons always. The cops with the guns, just one of them looks at me, just sprints

00:06:37.620 across the road and they just drop me all like five on top of me, just smashing me for no reason.

00:06:42.140 So why'd that pull you out?

00:06:43.340 Oh, just, just, just, just for being here basically. Yeah.

00:06:46.520 Are you within your 10 Ks?

00:06:47.620 Yeah, I live in South Melbourne. I've just walked here. My watch is still going 4.2 Ks.

00:06:52.020 Stop for a second. That's the guy who was beaten, uh, down to the ground. You remember

00:06:57.840 talking to him, Avi, the guy with the orange hat by any chance?

00:07:01.340 Of course, he's a construction worker. And that's the story we're hearing from all these

00:07:06.440 construction workers is that they're being targeted because essentially the government,

00:07:10.580 when that, uh, escalated outside the headquarters, the, the government shut down the entire construction

00:07:16.700 industry for what they said was going to be a snap two week, um, lockdown for that industry.

00:07:23.300 Um, and so basically anyone walking around looking like a construction worker was fair game for

00:07:30.740 the police. And there's been zero accountability. We've seen throughout this pandemic, the police,

00:07:36.180 um, uh, I think they are above the law at the moment, um, with their new emergency powers.

00:07:42.660 So if you look like a suspect, they will beat you and ask questions later.

00:07:49.440 How are the people in Australia reacting to this? Are they buying into the Nazi thing?

00:07:56.920 I think for the first 24 hours, yes, the, um, the government, the media, the, uh, union certainly,

00:08:04.220 um, held the, had the narrative, uh, down pat, people believed it. Um, but to be fair, um,

00:08:10.520 when people saw the rebel news story, where we actually interviewed, you know, everybody in that

00:08:17.920 crowd, we were walking around just interviewing it and it became quite clear that they were union

00:08:22.860 members. And the very next day they changed the way they spoke about the crowd. And suddenly they

00:08:27.500 were talking about, um, you know, elements that were far right and far right provocateurs. I think

00:08:33.460 that that was, uh, probably, uh, their way to blame me for this, for their issues. But the,

00:08:39.900 the fact of the matter is, um, it, it very much was an organic, um, explosion of outrage, um,

00:08:49.800 that they brought onto themselves and they have no one but themselves to blame. And I think, uh,

00:08:56.340 the, the government misjudged it. It was, it was, uh, you know, they got away with it for,

00:09:01.060 for 18 months in, in Melbourne. We've been in lockdown. We had the most lockdown city in the

00:09:06.140 world, most lockdown with the harshest restriction and people have complied, but now they've taken

00:09:13.120 on an industry which, you know, these are people that live paycheck to paycheck, take away that

00:09:18.820 paycheck. Um, you've given them no other choice, but to stand up and, and fight for it.

00:09:24.300 So, so, uh, what, what is coming towards Australia? Uh, common sense and, uh, a reversal of these

00:09:32.820 things or chaos? Um, it's a, it's a tough question. You know what the last, uh, the last week certainly

00:09:43.280 indicates chaos is coming and, uh, I'm hoping at the end of it, whether it's chaos or, or it's settled

00:09:51.860 straight away. I'm hoping common sense is what does prevail. Well, I saw the, um, the video of

00:09:58.800 the police running into the city park, firing into the backs of people, you know, rubber bullets,

00:10:05.920 but they were still firing rubber bullets into the backs of people as they were running away from

00:10:10.740 the police. I don't think I've ever seen that. Listen, I've been in war zones and some of the stuff

00:10:20.000 I'm seeing here in Melbourne. Um, I, I just cannot believe my eyes. I've, I've, I was covering a, a, a, a

00:10:27.760 peaceful march of those construction workers and they were literally walking, you know, probably a

00:10:33.360 thousand strong walking, um, peacefully marching, you know, chanting. And out of nowhere, these

00:10:41.480 armed, you know, vehicles that you see at the front lines of a battlefield suddenly confronts

00:10:49.980 them and counter-terrorism police run out of the vehicle and start firing indiscriminately into the

00:10:57.400 crowd and firing tear gas, throwing tear gas canisters. It's just, it's, it's incredible. And

00:11:04.820 to think that, you know, all these tools that they've been given over the last few years in the

00:11:10.260 name of, you know, counter-terrorism is now being used on the people, the people that funded it to

00:11:17.340 protect themselves through their taxes. Um, it's, it's scary. And it makes you think all the things

00:11:24.100 that they're passing now, um, under the guise of public health, what is it going to be used for

00:11:30.740 next? Just like they, they're using, they're misusing and abusing counter-terrorism things.

00:11:36.500 It's, it's, it's, it's an eye-opener and people need to wake up.

00:11:40.340 From Rebel News in Australia, Avi Yemeni, uh, Avi, thank you so much. Please stay in touch with us

00:11:48.400 because we can't, we can't make heads or tails from it here.

00:11:53.340 Anytime, mate. Thank you. You bet. Rebel News, you can follow Rebel News,

00:11:58.080 rebelnews.com.au for Australia.

00:12:02.580 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. And we really want to thank you for listening.

00:12:17.220 The guy who is running the operations for the Nazarene fund overseas, this particular, um,

00:12:24.520 rescue operation over in Afghanistan, I think is the Oscar Schindler of this moment. His new,

00:12:32.440 his name is Rudy Atala. Um, and he is, um, he's working 22 hours a day, every day. I don't know

00:12:42.440 how he's keeping up with everything. And every time you try to talk to him, he's got 14 different,

00:12:47.600 uh, crises that he's, he's trying to work through. Uh, thank you for spending a couple of minutes with

00:12:53.720 this, Rudy. I know you're busy. God bless. God bless. Thank you, Glenn. Um, much appreciated.

00:13:00.080 Um, so I wanted to, I wanted to see if you could give us any kind of update on what is happening

00:13:08.400 overseas and when, what we're able to do, or if there's anything. Uh, yeah, well, uh, we're on

00:13:17.280 rescue operations are still ongoing. Um, it's, things are not moving at the same pace as before

00:13:23.660 the Taliban is, uh, is taking control and trying on one side to show that it is a legitimate 0.78

00:13:30.700 government. Um, and then on the other side, of course, it continues to do all the things that,

00:13:35.960 uh, you know, we know the Taliban does, uh, lopping off of hands and, and hanging people, 0.56

00:13:43.020 killing people, raiding people. Um, so we've, we've been operating in this environment,

00:13:48.340 trying to be extremely careful, but we, uh, continue to, uh, to find Americans. We continue

00:13:54.880 to find people that need our help. And then, uh, in that process, uh, we haven't stopped

00:14:00.480 getting people out of the country. It's just gotten a little bit slower than before.

00:14:05.420 And it's not like we're going around looking for them. There's many still in safe houses

00:14:10.820 or can you say we, yes, we, they're, they're scattered in safe houses in various regions

00:14:17.940 and areas. Uh, we talk to them directly. And then, uh, when we get, when we get names,

00:14:23.400 we're very careful at taking names and getting, uh, solid information. We do our own vetting

00:14:29.500 process on the backside, uh, of these individuals. We make sure that we, we are, they're tied to

00:14:35.060 other individuals, people that we know of or have heard of. So we do our due diligence. Um,

00:14:41.800 and then once we get, because the Taliban's trying to infiltrate many, uh, chat groups,

00:14:47.740 many, uh, you know, organizations that are trying to, are doing similar things. Um, so I'm extremely

00:14:54.480 careful with my guys on how and who we rescue, just making sure that, uh, what we're doing is proper.

00:15:01.160 Sure. And did you see the political article that came out this weekend? Rudy? I did. I did. It was

00:15:09.580 saying that the FBI is going around and if this is true, and I just don't know what to believe

00:15:16.780 because of the justice department today, but I agree with what they say their mission is. And that

00:15:22.680 is to go onto all of these groups and make sure that nobody's ripping people off that nobody's,

00:15:28.560 you know, human smuggling, uh, et cetera, et cetera.

00:15:33.280 One, 100%. And I think it's necessary to do so. Um, unfortunately we have a lot of groups and

00:15:40.900 organizations that jump into these things, you know, out of the goodness of their heart, trying

00:15:44.880 to do the right thing. But there are a lot of, uh, steps that need to be taken. The first thing I did

00:15:49.960 is when we started this, uh, this whole rescue operation, as I reached out to our legal team that,

00:15:56.280 uh, that specializes in working with the office of foreign asset control or OFAC.

00:16:01.400 And I, I sat on the phone with three lawyers and I said, please advise OFAC, um, what we're doing

00:16:08.080 and how we're doing it. So we went through multiple iterations of that and we are covered by OFAC. I

00:16:14.880 made sure that OFAC knew exactly what we were doing, who we were dealing with, how we were moving

00:16:20.620 money. Uh, the official answer for me from our lawyers basically said that OFAC officials have

00:16:26.980 indicated that they would not take, uh, they would take a non-enforcement posture with respect to, uh,

00:16:34.940 anybody dealing with evacuations currently out of Afghanistan, but we have to be careful where the

00:16:41.020 money goes to and who it goes to. So that's another end where I work closely with our finance team

00:16:47.200 to make sure that every single dollar that we move is going to an entity that's well known. It's,

00:16:53.960 you know, that there's nothing nefarious going on there and everything is reported. So

00:16:58.960 we are above board, but we're, we're one of the few organizations that has done that. Um, I've done

00:17:05.600 this in, in Syria when we operated there, I've done this in other countries and I'm very particular

00:17:11.260 about this, this area, um, and just making sure that all our T's are crossed and all our I's are

00:17:17.260 dotted for every reason. I mean, the last thing we want is DOJ breathing down our throats for doing

00:17:22.040 something stupid. You were, you were in charge of the Somalia evac for the government, weren't you? 1.00

00:17:29.280 I, I was not the person in charge, but I did work the Somalia evacuations in 92, 93. Correct. Yes.

00:17:36.540 And what other ones have you worked? I've worked, uh, Liberia. I've worked, uh, Ivory coast. I've

00:17:42.740 worked on, um, you know, on, uh, Sudan. So you've, you've seen these many times up close and personal.

00:17:50.760 How does this one, how does this one compare to ones that you've seen before?

00:17:57.780 I would say compared, compared to what I've seen, this one was an utter disaster. I mean,

00:18:03.720 it's on a, it's on a, on a scale never seen before, because normally when you do a non-combatant

00:18:09.820 evacuation or a NEO, it's fairly well, um, again, organized because the delegation goes to

00:18:16.720 the department of defense essentially to take in the right measures because you're, you're basically

00:18:22.840 the, the, a country goes into almost a chaotic stage or combat zone and the department of defense

00:18:29.260 steps in and has very specific measures and what they do and how they do it. And they work closely

00:18:34.980 with the state department. In this case, everything was flipped upside down. It was, it, it was the

00:18:42.060 state department and the driver's seat and the department of defense had already pulled out.

00:18:45.960 It, it was backwards. And, and this is why we got into the, the, the mess that we're in today.

00:18:53.420 And now we're still picking up the pieces. And I unfortunately feel like we're going to be

00:18:58.400 picking up the pieces for many years to come. Um, this political article says one person familiar

00:19:04.680 with the call said the FBI doesn't want groups offering bribes or paying the Taliban to evacuate

00:19:09.920 people from Afghanistan. As those practices raise human trafficking concerns. Further, this congressional

00:19:17.080 person said one of the groups that received a call was Glenn Beck's Nazarene fund. Beck has brought

00:19:22.660 attention to his organization's activity, praising Pakistani prime minister, Emron Khan on Twitter

00:19:29.040 for acting on his willingness to assist. Nazarene fund didn't respond for a comment. Um, what are

00:19:37.180 they, what are they saying here? That we're mixing two, they're mixing two things. So we never,

00:19:43.720 ever, ever get into any bribes or paying anybody again. Uh, any, every single penny that we, we spend

00:19:51.320 or pay somebody, we make sure that our OFAC lawyers know, and that we're above board. The, the,

00:19:57.700 the Imran Khan piece was very, it was necessary. When we looked regionally for people that can

00:20:03.320 influence the Taliban without money. Um, the only regional actor that was able to do that as Pakistan, 0.90

00:20:10.700 essentially, if you go to like, you know, you have different Gulf countries and other countries

00:20:15.940 countries that are dumping money on the Taliban, we stepped away from those countries. The only

00:20:20.680 country, the only country that did not offer or does not offer any bribes or money is, is, is Pakistan.

00:20:27.680 And they carry a big stick. Now, a lot of people feel uncomfortable with Pakistan because of, of its,

00:20:33.560 of its past. But unfortunately, the way things have unfolded, there's no, no other real big actor in the

00:20:41.880 region. The state department and our government did not leave us any choices of, of, you know,

00:20:47.600 they're not helping us in any way, uh, move people. So what we did is we simply asked, um, you know,

00:20:54.920 through channels, proper channels, uh, for Imran Khan to see if he can weigh in and allow the Taliban to allow 0.69

00:21:01.820 our people to go. But there was no money exchange. There was nothing. It was simply a letter to letter

00:21:08.460 verbal. You addressed it on air and that, that was it. And they made a few phone calls and certain

00:21:14.500 things happened. And then we were able to get people out. And in many, in our case, you know,

00:21:20.500 we've been able to get very high at risk people. We've already gotten, uh, the leaders of the

00:21:26.960 underground church out of Afghanistan. We've gotten, wait, wait, wait, that's an, that's an announcement.

00:21:32.680 I knew that. Can you make that, can you clarify what that was? This is, this is a big deal.

00:21:38.460 Yes. I mean, there are, there are leaders, there are leaders of the underground church,

00:21:43.920 Christian church that were in stuck in Afghanistan. And we, uh, you know, we, with through proper

00:21:49.960 channels, we were able to get them out without them being whisked away. And, you know, uh, all the

00:21:56.440 promises that the Taliban wanted to catch these people and burn them and their families alive 0.97

00:22:01.860 publicly. Uh, thank God they're out of, out of harm's way. And, uh, you know, we worked hard to do

00:22:07.420 that. But again, you had, we had to use diplomatic channels to pull these people out. We, I mean,

00:22:13.820 there are Americans we pulled out, we promised to Britain, we got Americans out. We've gotten, 1.00

00:22:18.640 we've gotten at risk women out and, um, it took a lot of effort. And there are things that we could

00:22:24.260 not talk about at the time that it was happening because it was extremely sensitive. Um, everything

00:22:30.660 we've done has been above board. Um, and we've never, you know, there's, there's nothing hidden.

00:22:36.360 There's nothing, uh, in terms of, you know, back payments or whatever, none of that happens.

00:22:41.940 Yeah. Um, you know, the, I, uh, as a member of the board, I know that we have been very, very clear,

00:22:48.360 nothing, even the appearance of anything that is, that is not right. We want to stay a million miles

00:22:54.880 away from, from any of that. Um, and just, uh, trust in God that, uh, he'll make things happen.

00:23:01.940 Um, one more thing, Rudy, I heard this weekend and this is going to embarrass you, but it, it shouldn't.

00:23:09.340 Um, uh, I've heard that you are unwilling to take any salary for what you're doing. Is that true?

00:23:19.340 Yes, sir. It is true. That is, first of all, you got married, what, I think six days into it. You

00:23:29.240 haven't, you've barely even seen your, literally barely even seen your wife, uh, and you just got

00:23:34.840 married. Um, and now you won't take it with salary. Why? Well, it's the proper thing to do. First of all,

00:23:43.760 I I'm, I'm blessed that I have a wife that's very understanding. She said, just go do what you need

00:23:48.480 to do. And when the dust settles, then we'll just go out on a honeymoon. And she's been awesome and

00:23:53.780 very supportive, but I'm not taking a salary because I feel like if I was in people's shoes

00:24:01.260 on the other side, I would want somebody to reach out to me. And yeah, I, you know, I grew up as a,

00:24:06.560 as a, as a Christian in Lebanon. I was a persecuted Christian. I know what it's like to be on the other

00:24:11.860 side of the fence. And for me, it's personal. I want to make sure that, you know, the people that we

00:24:18.000 help, uh, are people, uh, you know, that, that, that, uh, you know, we're helping desperate people.

00:24:24.960 I always cling to Proverbs 24, 11, you know, the Bible is very clear about helping those who are

00:24:31.580 stumbling to death or to the slaughter. And, uh, you know, from my heart, all I want to do is,

00:24:37.400 is just, is rescue as many people as I can. And, you know, given the fact that you and I are tied

00:24:45.120 together and your listeners are so generous, we were able to, to do some great, great work. And

00:24:52.060 I think we still have a lot of great work to do and, and I'm, I'm willing to put everything on the

00:24:57.640 line for it. You're a good man, Rudy. You're a very, very good man. We're blessed to have you

00:25:03.280 working with us. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you for everything. God bless. I would ask that you

00:25:09.840 would keep that man in your prayers. And if you would like to donate, we could still use your

00:25:15.720 financial help. Uh, Nazarene fund, the Nazarene fund.org or mercury one. The best of the Glenn Beck

00:25:24.420 program. Former CIA director, uh, former U S secretary of state and chairman of CAV PAC.

00:25:38.600 And also the co-chair of the national Republican redistricting trust. Mike Pompeo is with us,

00:25:45.060 Mike, you'd really need to get a resume. Uh, great to be with you. Good to be with you,

00:25:52.040 sir. Um, thank you for coming on. I want to talk to you about redistricting, but I have to ask you

00:25:56.520 a question on a story that broke yesterday, uh, from Michael Isikoff. So take it for what it's worth.

00:26:03.560 That says that the gist of the article, you were so obsessed with Julian Assange and WikiLeaks

00:26:10.040 that you and the president were looking at really aggressive methods, including kidnapping or an

00:26:17.400 assassination. One scenario included a possible shootout with Russian agents who you believed

00:26:23.400 were going to try to get Assange for themselves. Uh, Glenn, I've seen the piece. I knew they were

00:26:29.800 writing on this thing. Uh, I'd say three things. First of all, it's, it's a cough we we've seen.

00:26:34.840 Are you as a big Russia hoax perpetrator? Yep. He was. Yeah. So, so take, take that for what it's

00:26:41.460 worth. Second. Uh, there are many stories out there now about how the president and I were

00:26:45.800 engaged in things that were crazy, right? There's just talk about that. There was an effort to drop a

00:26:50.360 nuclear weapon on China in the last week's administration. This story is of that same

00:26:54.400 ilk, right? Just, I couldn't tell you who they have as their sources, but those sources didn't

00:26:58.840 know what we were doing. And then the third point I guess, Glenn, is we were, we were very worried

00:27:04.120 about the fact that we had bad actors who, who are stealing really, really sensitive material from

00:27:09.060 the United States. And I, I make no apologies for the fact that we and the administration were

00:27:13.900 working diligently to make sure that we were able to protect this important, sensitive

00:27:18.580 information from whether it was cyber actors in Russia or the Chinese military or anyone

00:27:23.860 who was trying to take this information away from us, not just commercial stuff like intellectual

00:27:27.600 property theft, but real national security secrets. And so we were working hard to go after those

00:27:33.200 bad actors who were trying to do that.

00:27:34.940 So was Assange and WikiLeaks, are they, uh, are they journalists in a media outlet or, uh, or

00:27:41.500 a hostile intelligence entity?

00:27:43.460 So I came to believe that they were in fact that one of the first non-state hostile intelligence

00:27:49.660 entities. They weren't engaged in even crappy reporting like Isikoff does. They were, they

00:27:54.800 were engaged in active, active efforts to, uh, steal secrets themselves and pay others to

00:28:01.700 do the same in a way that violated, uh, but the central understandings that I think the American

00:28:06.340 people get and second violated U S law as well. We, we were always careful. Um, I'm all about

00:28:12.720 a big, bold, strong first amendment, but these folks were acting in ways that were deeply inconsistent

00:28:16.620 with that.

00:28:17.180 Okay. They're redistricting now. Um, and these last for 10 years, uh, as the draw the district

00:28:25.060 lines in 2021 and 2022, they'll be in place for 10 years. And that's how we elect officials.

00:28:32.400 Uh, and it's embarrassing the way they snake, uh, through, uh, uh, districts. Quite honestly,

00:28:39.200 um, you, you are coordinating the national redistricting strategy for the Republicans.

00:28:46.220 Tell me what you're doing and why it's so important.

00:28:49.300 So Glenn, the last time we did this now coming on 10 years ago, the Republican party went, uh,

00:28:54.760 full hibernation mode. We, we just, we played victim. We screamed at the Democrats for behaving

00:29:00.260 badly and then suffered the consequences of this where they drew maps that just couldn't

00:29:04.520 get conservatives and Republicans to win. So my view is enough. I want to crush them.

00:29:10.120 I want to make sure we get fair maps every place we go. We look, we've seen what happens 0.64

00:29:13.940 when Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer in charge with a Democrat president of the white house 0.89

00:29:17.720 these last eight months, we have to make sure these maps are right and fair. And I want,

00:29:21.600 I want state elected officials who in the end get to make these decisions, Republican state

00:29:26.360 elected officials to say, no, we're going to be serious about this. This is a decade long

00:29:30.220 decision we're making. And if the Democrats threatened to sue, bring it on. We're going

00:29:34.640 to make sure we have fair maps and we're going to provide the resources and intellectual firepower

00:29:38.740 to help those state elected officials litigate against these Democrats. It's a program on the

00:29:43.720 other side run by Barack Obama and Eric Holder. Not said they're really the one running the show.

00:29:50.080 Aren't they in Barack Obama and his people really running everything now on this redistricting

00:29:57.320 effort? It's very clear. President Obama has gone out and fought for maps that if you showed them

00:30:01.420 to the average American, regardless of the party, they'd say that's crazy. They're deeply unfair.

00:30:06.620 They don't reflect what Glenn, you and I know, right? One, one person, one vote, right? They're

00:30:11.340 just, they're just fundamentally indecent. And so what we can't do is complain and whine and do

00:30:16.180 nothing. We have to, we have to articulate our vision and then go out and fight and crush and

00:30:21.020 never give an inch and fight these battles and win them and get fair maps for so that we can get

00:30:24.440 conservatives elected. You know, I don't know if you know this, but, uh, uh, John Adams and Thomas

00:30:29.400 Jefferson towards the end of their lives, uh, they were corresponding with one another and, um, they

00:30:35.160 said, you know, this is going to fail. And they said, yes, the other one, yes, but the people will see

00:30:40.000 what we were trying to do. And the other one said, we should have put more Leviticus in it.

00:30:44.000 And apparently what they were talking, what they were talking about was the idea of stakes

00:30:50.300 that districts should just be blocks of, you know, 500 or a thousand people and they should

00:30:57.380 just be blocks. And those blocks just keep breaking up, uh, as the population gets more and more dense,

00:31:04.540 that would stop all of this, wouldn't it? It would. I'm familiar with that debate. Uh, they went

00:31:10.840 at it, uh, hammer and tong for sure. They got a Senate that was represented by States. And then

00:31:16.320 the, you know, the deal to allow equal representation for the population of the house

00:31:20.720 represents, there were big fights about this. Here's what we know today, today, not only Democrats

00:31:25.740 and progressives, but even the courts have permitted these districts to be drawn in ways

00:31:29.640 that are partisan and that reflect the worst of factions that those very founders were trying to

00:31:35.920 stop. We, we, we shouldn't do that. We should go back to a more traditional set of understandings.

00:31:40.920 Uh, they, they create the Democrats create these commissions that have this veneer of non-partisanship.

00:31:45.860 They'll put five Democrats and two Republicans on the commission. We get rolled. We just can't let

00:31:50.200 that happen. Uh, we cannot let them draw districts, not just by the way, not just at the federal level,

00:31:54.820 but county commission districts, state legislative districts, these things all matter for a decade.

00:31:59.800 I'm convinced Glenn that with fair maps, conservative voices will be heard and we'll have good

00:32:04.840 things happen all across America. This is why we have people like Nancy Pelosi in because the 1.00

00:32:10.820 districts are so crazy that they don't represent the, the, the truth. They represent, uh, a line

00:32:21.420 really that snakes around to try to capture the people they want to capture. And so the districts

00:32:29.280 become more and more extreme, even if that district is not extreme. Do I have that right?

00:32:36.260 Absolutely. You absolutely have it right. Take a look at what's going on in California where they

00:32:39.940 control the state legislature and that governorship. They're going to draw out a couple of members of

00:32:46.100 Congress, or at least they're contemplating it who won in close races last year. They'll make it

00:32:50.720 nearly impossible for them to continue to serve and frankly, to reflect the values of the people that

00:32:56.360 they've been tasked to represent. They'll make these liberal districts. They'll make them 55,

00:33:00.560 45 Democrat, and, uh, they will try as they might to hang on to this little bit of power because in

00:33:06.980 the end, Glenn, it's all about power for the progressives. And we have to make sure that these

00:33:11.020 fair maps prevent that from happening for another decade. Is how much does the, uh, census play a

00:33:17.360 role in this? Uh, it's a big deal. It obviously drives the data set that gets used in litigation and

00:33:23.820 for state legislators to make their decisions. So, you know, the fact that there were questionable

00:33:28.100 outcomes from this past census, uh, certainly concerns me. Can you go into that? Cause I don't

00:33:32.920 think most people paid attention. That happened when everybody was talking about the election.

00:33:37.400 Well, there are two things. One, there was a big court case, uh, Secretary Ross had filed a court case.

00:33:43.120 There's a lot of argument that says that the constitution only intended citizens to be counted as part of

00:33:48.440 the census. We were unsuccessful at that. So now you have census decisions. That is how many members

00:33:53.600 of Congress, one state gets decided on how many people are there, even if they're here illegally.

00:33:59.200 Uh, and then the second thing, uh, the timing of the release of the census and the contents of the

00:34:04.840 census, uh, were all in the end controlled by the Democrats. And this will, this will make it easier

00:34:10.780 for Democrats. And that's why the work that we're engaged in is even so much more important.

00:34:15.140 So, um, what do you need from people? Anything?

00:34:18.960 No, just, uh, we need them to encourage their state elected officials, their state assemblymen,

00:34:23.420 their state delegates, their state representatives, their state senators, get a backbone, be tough.

00:34:28.040 Don't give in. Don't just say, Oh goodness, this won't happen. This won't affect me. It affects

00:34:31.840 every family all across America. Make sure that we're watching what's going on in this redistrict.

00:34:37.700 If they see it coming off the rails in their state to raise the flag and we will come to provide

00:34:43.080 the support they need to get fair maps so they can actually make sure their vote matters.

00:34:46.700 Mike, can I ask you two questions to jobs you used to have? One, uh, I don't, I don't know if I

00:34:53.700 trust, I don't know what to trust anymore. I don't trust our justice department. I don't trust our

00:35:01.400 intelligence community anymore. Is it, can you talk me off the ledge or should I be on this ledge?

00:35:09.920 So here's my, here's my best. And I, I'll speak for the organization I ran. I, I, I saw what

00:35:16.640 happened to the FBI. It became deeply politicized. I also saw that there was risk that happening at

00:35:21.860 the other intelligence organizations, including the one that I ran at CIA. I, my predecessor was

00:35:26.360 a fellow named John Brennan. He brought real politics into how they did analysis of the data

00:35:31.620 that was collected. My, my second observation is most of the folks who work at the CIA, good people,

00:35:36.440 a lot of ex-military folks, a significant piece of them. These are people who are trying to do their

00:35:41.700 jobs, execute on behalf of America, make sure we have good info for our decision makers. But if the

00:35:46.560 political leadership is corrupted, if the people who are appointed and the people who are confirmed

00:35:50.500 decide to drive politics down into whether it's the justice department or the FBI or any

00:35:55.960 intelligence agency, this is where it comes unhinged. We saw that at the FBI. We've seen in the

00:36:01.360 Department of Education, Civil Rights Division. We've seen it. We want, we want good people with

00:36:06.060 sound values leading those. And it's why these elections ultimately matter because the people

00:36:09.820 presidents put around them drive into those systems and processes.

00:36:14.600 And people ask me, because we were involved over in Afghanistan, people have asked me, Glenn,

00:36:20.560 is the State Department, why would they intentionally thwart all of these things? And I answer the same

00:36:28.460 way that I believe there are good people in the State Department. In fact, I know there are because

00:36:32.140 there are some people that are helping, but they're at the lower levels. On the other, I can't give you

00:36:39.920 an answer other than, you know, if it was incompetence, occasionally things would break in America's

00:36:47.760 favor. And they don't seem to.

00:36:50.500 No, this is policy. These are decisions that President Biden and his senior team made in

00:36:57.620 Afghanistan. And I'll pause there for a second to say, bless you for the work you're doing,

00:37:00.980 helping folks get out, helping Americans get out, helping those who we made promise to get out.

00:37:05.480 It is critical work. Don't give up. Thank you.

00:37:08.940 A handful of groups doing it. I know, you know, this is a handful of other groups doing it, too.

00:37:12.200 We should all figure out how to work together. We are.

00:37:14.680 Get folks out as quickly and as capable as that. So bless you and stay in that fight.

00:37:18.860 Thank you. But you've you've run into it. You've run to a senior State Department levels where

00:37:22.640 they just need a clearance to fly or they just need a single piece of paper well within

00:37:26.840 the full capacity of the State Department to deliver. And there is a down on from high decision

00:37:33.020 not to do that. I can't explain it. I also can't articulate why they made the set of decisions they

00:37:38.900 did around closing programs, pulling the military out before the civilians. These are unexplainable.

00:37:44.020 And I think they they drive to a deeper misunderstanding of who we are as Americans.

00:37:48.860 Mike, thank you very much. We'd love to have you on again. We really I'm a big fan and

00:37:55.300 I really appreciate it. God bless you. Thank you. Mike Pompeo.

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