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00:00:00.000 Welcome to the podcast. Today, we talk about the Shake Shack attack.

00:00:03.740 Was it an attack at all? We find out a pretty big update on that as we start the program.

00:00:08.120 We hear the latest from Chaz as they compare themselves to the French Revolution,

00:00:13.700 which is not something you typically would want to do in any circumstance.

00:00:17.420 Ben Shapiro joins us to go over what happened in the Supreme Court yesterday.

00:00:20.200 Michael Rechtenwald on his new book, Beyond Woke, which is what you need to be to not be canceled today.

00:00:25.920 And we talk about how Chaz, the autonomous zone in Seattle, is absolutely not a street festival under any circumstances.

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00:01:11.680 So yesterday, this was issued by the police union.

00:01:18.380 I'm writing to alert you to another serious safety issue.

00:01:22.000 This evening, several police officers assigned to a protest detail in lower Manhattan took a meal at the Shake Shack location on Broadway and Fulton Street.

00:01:30.380 At some point during their meal period, they discovered that a toxic substance believed to be bleach had been placed in their beverages.

00:01:39.140 The contamination was not discovered until they had already ingested a portion of their beverages.

00:01:44.820 They're currently in a hospital receiving treatment and expected to recover.

00:01:48.060 All the police union members are advised to carefully inspect any prepared food item that they purchase while on duty for possible contamination.

00:01:56.720 Now, this is the second time in Washington, D.C., the National Guard, they were delivered pizzas with glass in the pizzas.

00:02:06.160 It is a sad day when our police can't even trust the food that they're eating.

00:02:12.880 Now, there is an update on this story.

00:02:15.580 Shake Shack is one of my favorite fast food restaurants.

00:02:19.040 There's nothing better than Shake Shack.

00:02:21.740 Their burgers are incredible.

00:02:23.220 Their shakes are unbelievable.

00:02:25.440 And in New York City, we literally would stand in line for 20 or 30 minutes to get it. 1.00

00:02:31.960 Now, in New York City, you stand in line for a stupid cupcake and, you know, and ballet shoes, too. 0.98

00:02:37.460 So, you know, it's different, but it's such a great, great restaurant. 1.00

00:02:42.060 When I heard this, I was outraged, just outraged.

00:02:46.420 And I want to know what happened, because if Shake Shack has employees that are doing things like this, I'll never eat at a Shake Shack again.

00:02:55.500 And I'll encourage all my friends not to eat at a Shake Shack.

00:02:58.520 Now, here's the update.

00:03:01.960 New York PD finds no wrongdoing by Shake Shack employees after officers get sick from milkshakes.

00:03:09.720 Three New York City Department officers have been released from the hospital after getting sick when they drank milkshakes from Shake Shack Monday night.

00:03:17.820 The shakes may have been tainted with bleach, according to the New York City Police Department.

00:03:22.940 They launched an investigation after the officers fell ill and determined early Tuesday morning that there was no criminality by employees.

00:03:31.880 This is according to an NYPD detective.

00:03:35.400 Investigators believe a cleaning solution used to clean the milkshake machines wasn't fully cleared and may have gotten into the officers' drinks.

00:03:46.720 So it just happened to the officers or did it happen to other people?

00:03:50.740 And what a wild coincidence that is.

00:03:55.400 I'd like to talk to the New York City police detectives and find out.

00:03:59.960 That story is from CNN. 0.96

00:04:01.740 And I don't believe a damn word CNN says. 0.98

00:04:05.000 Because CNN, MSNBC, all of the mainstream media, they're covering for all of these radicals. 0.95

00:04:10.660 Now, I'm not saying that's happening in the Shake Shack thing.

00:04:13.540 I believe that this story is most likely true, that there was just an accident that happened.

00:04:20.560 But I'm not taking anything at face value anymore.

00:04:25.540 Police officers, wherever you're eating, make sure it's a friendly place.

00:04:30.480 And please check your food.

00:04:33.540 I can't believe these guys are still on the job.

00:04:37.300 I really cannot believe that our police officer is on the job.

00:04:41.000 Thank you for that.

00:04:42.200 We appreciate you.

00:04:43.920 Know that the silent majority of this country stands with you.

00:04:48.760 But I have to say something to the silent majority. 0.99

00:04:52.580 Where the hell are you? 0.93

00:04:54.780 Where are you? 0.86

00:04:56.400 These guys are out risking their lives for us.

00:05:00.780 And what are we doing?

00:05:02.020 Many of us are too afraid or too cowardly to even post online that you stand with the cops.

00:05:11.120 I understand it's a scary world.

00:05:14.620 But it's a scarier world without the cops.

00:05:17.900 A much scarier world.

00:05:20.160 As I said, they did this in Washington, D.C. as well with pizzas.

00:05:34.260 They put glass in pizzas for our National Guard.

00:05:38.360 Now, there's something else that is happening that I think is, unfortunately, something that I told you about probably in 2006.

00:05:51.940 I warned you about the Bubba effect.

00:05:56.380 And the Bubba effect is happening.

00:05:58.640 Now, if you remember right, if you're a longtime listener of this program, the Bubba effect is something that I've warned that the military had been training for.

00:06:08.740 I found out about it in around 2000, maybe 2004, 2006, somewhere in that area.

00:06:16.600 And because I asked the special forces command, what are you most concerned about?

00:06:24.680 And they said, well, one of the things we're training for now is the Bubba effect.

00:06:27.880 And I said, I don't know what the Bubba effect is.

00:06:29.520 And they said, that is when the country is so divided and no one trusts the government.

00:06:40.180 And and they were they were looking at this at the time through the lens of making excuses for Middle Eastern terrorists.

00:06:50.800 And they said, we're afraid that at some point a major terrorist attack will will happen.

00:07:00.400 And the people in that in a community could be anywhere in the United States will go in a Bubba will go into a convenience store and see a Sikh who's not Muslim or a Muslim who has nothing to do with anything. 0.99

00:07:19.600 And he'll go in and he'll say, you know, it's people like you and he'll shoot them.

00:07:27.520 Well, the feds will come into town and when the feds arrive, the people will block their entrance to their town for the feds because they'll say you are part of the problem. 0.99

00:07:39.600 We know what Bubba did was wrong and we'll handle Bubba.

00:07:42.840 Bubba, get out of our town because you are the reason why people like Bubba are rising up because you excused it.

00:07:54.720 You lied to us.

00:07:56.020 You you excused everybody but us.

00:08:01.100 You've been calling us terrorists.

00:08:03.240 You've been calling us bad guys.

00:08:05.000 Well, we know that what he did was wrong and bad.

00:08:09.660 But what you did was worse.

00:08:11.340 So get the hell out of our town.

00:08:13.400 That's the Bubba effect.

00:08:14.780 When people start to say, you know what?

00:08:18.580 Law enforcement, the cities, they don't care.

00:08:22.240 The government doesn't care.

00:08:24.620 We got to take this on ourselves.

00:08:27.500 Well, let me give you this story.

00:08:29.200 A man was shot yesterday after gunfire erupted at a demonstration in New Mexico where protesters attempted to topple a Braun Conquistador statue outside of an Albuquerque museum.

00:08:43.780 Museum.

00:08:45.780 The man was taken to a local hospital where he was listed in critical but stable condition.

00:08:50.780 The shooting tonight was tragic, outrageous and unacceptable act of violence.

00:08:54.540 And it has no place in our city, said the Albuquerque mayor, Tim Keller.

00:08:58.660 The shooting occurred during a clash between protesters and the New Mexico Civil Guard, a heavily armed civilian group that attempted to protect the controversial sculpture, a monument that features Spanish Conquistador in Albuquerque.

00:09:16.780 Protesters reportedly wrapped a chain around the statue and started tugging on it in chance of tear it down.

00:09:22.260 At least one person swung a pickaxe at the statue of New Mexico's 16th century colonial governor.

00:09:29.480 Gunshots could be heard down the street just moments later with several people yelling, somebody's got shot.

00:09:36.680 Police use chemical irritants and flashbangs to protect the officers and detain those involved in the shooting.

00:09:42.580 We're receiving reports about vigilante groups possibly instigating this violence.

00:09:47.480 If it is true, we'll be holding them accountable to the fullest extent of the law, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:09:51.880 Well, let me ask the mayor this.

00:09:54.120 Where was the tear gas as they were doing this to the statue?

00:10:00.360 Where were the police?

00:10:01.700 So they didn't tear this statue down from a museum.

00:10:07.300 This is exactly what ISIS did in Iraq. 0.64

00:10:15.360 They tore down all of the historic landmarks.

00:10:19.700 Now, those historic landmarks may or may not have anything to do with current Iraq, but they tore them down. 0.77

00:10:28.560 They tried to destroy the ancient cities, wipe them off the face of the earth, and they do it time and time again. 0.99

00:10:38.240 Now, look what's happening in our own streets.

00:10:40.600 This isn't the act of ISIS.

00:10:43.460 This is exactly what they do.

00:10:46.080 They have no right to come onto especially private property and tear down statues.

00:10:52.760 They don't have a right to do that to public statues.

00:10:55.260 And that's why people band together in civilian groups.

00:11:02.580 Because they know a well-regulated militia has a right to keep and bear arms.

00:11:11.460 And they know that they are the last stand.

00:11:16.100 If the police won't do anything, if the mayor won't do anything, if the governor won't do anything, if the president won't do anything, then they have to.

00:11:27.920 They're not going to just stand around and have their streets ripped up by mobs.

00:11:34.940 We see what's happening in Seattle.

00:11:37.460 This is not a street fair.

00:11:40.800 In fact, could we play the, this is the interview from MSNBC.

00:11:45.620 Mark my words, I said this in 2010, I think.

00:11:50.220 MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, they hate you just as much as they hate me and everybody else.

00:11:57.080 And you have been making excuses and you are helping them spread and grow.

00:12:03.100 You are excusing them today.

00:12:05.640 And if you think that they're not going to come in, if they get control or the chance and come into your studio and drag you outside, anchor, chair and all, and kill you in a mob. 1.00

00:12:18.860 You're crazy. 0.97

00:12:22.760 Here's MSNBC, who's in love with the protesters, who's been saying this is a great thing, who's been defending them. 0.98

00:12:31.520 Listen to what happens when one of them is on the street in Seattle.

00:12:35.360 After more than a week of clashes between the demonstrators and the police, now you've seen essentially almost like a street festival type atmosphere.

00:12:43.340 A street festival type atmosphere.

00:12:44.680 No.

00:12:45.260 With a very intentional purpose.

00:12:48.260 It is not a street festival.

00:12:49.820 It is not a street festival.

00:12:51.300 Do not say that.

00:12:52.860 Please do not.

00:12:53.320 Shame on you for saying that.

00:12:54.620 Learn right now.

00:12:55.500 It is not a street festival.

00:12:56.820 Do you know our voices sound like the from fear gas that police have attacked us with?

00:13:00.520 You have to understand some traumatizing things happened here.

00:13:03.460 All of us are suffering from PTSD in our own country.

00:13:06.740 From our own country.

00:13:07.720 That's what a lot of...

00:13:08.160 It is not a street party.

00:13:09.380 Yvonne, it's okay.

00:13:10.040 Let her finish. 0.98

00:13:10.760 Let her finish. 0.98

00:13:11.120 One thing to listen to.

00:13:12.860 It's not a street festival.

00:13:13.940 Yeah, they're happy with the press.

00:13:18.360 They like that.

00:13:19.320 They like that.

00:13:20.500 So the mayor of the city has excused it.

00:13:23.440 The governor.

00:13:24.160 They're all calling it a street festival.

00:13:26.040 It's not.

00:13:27.420 It is a takeover of an American city. 0.56

00:13:31.760 Six blocks of one of our largest American cities.

00:13:35.940 It is destruction, mayhem, chaos, and violence at night.

00:13:41.180 Oh, and then the kiddies come out and draw chalk outlines on the...

00:13:45.360 Oh, they're not outlines?

00:13:47.080 Oh, they're the full thing.

00:13:48.240 And they do beautiful artwork on the sidewalks during the day.

00:13:52.240 Meanwhile, the residents are terrified.

00:13:55.660 Terrified.

00:13:56.220 The businesses are terrified.

00:14:01.920 I warn you, do not fall into the trap of becoming a part of the Bubba effect.

00:14:08.680 This audience, I have said for a long time, is going to be responsible for saving the country.

00:14:14.360 And I truly believe that.

00:14:15.820 I believe you have listened and we have found each other for a reason for a very long time.

00:14:22.500 And you are going to be responsible for saving this nation from civil war, from chaos and revolution.

00:14:32.120 But we have to be better than all the rest of it.

00:14:37.700 You are part of a very select group.

00:14:42.480 You're here for a reason.

00:14:44.280 And it is not for violence or chaos.

00:14:46.880 It is to find a way through all of this.

00:14:50.580 So our Constitution is preserved.

00:14:54.200 Although I don't know what part of it's being preserved.

00:14:57.500 You want to talk about hanging by a thread.

00:15:00.920 Did you see what the Supreme Court did yesterday?

00:15:03.700 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:15:05.900 Mr. Ben Shapiro, editor-in-chief of the Daily Wire, host of the Ben Shapiro program.

00:15:15.860 And one guy that I someday want to work side-by-side with.

00:15:19.500 I think he is absolutely brilliant.

00:15:22.400 Welcome, Mr. Ben Shapiro.

00:15:24.200 How are you, sir?

00:15:26.140 Hey, doing well.

00:15:26.980 You know, hanging in there in today's America.

00:15:28.540 How are you doing?

00:15:29.900 Boy, Ben, what's coming our way?

00:15:33.340 Are we headed for a revolution?

00:15:39.100 You know, I think that the idea of violent revolution is probably a fantasy.

00:15:43.120 Because I don't think that that is something that most Americans are up for.

00:15:47.540 But the idea that the country is coming apart, it seems that you're going to start to see greater divisions between states.

00:15:52.780 And then between states and the federal government is very real.

00:15:55.560 And I think the way that you could end up with actual violence is when the federal government is taken over by members of the left and they don't know what they don't know.

00:16:05.560 Meaning that they actually believe that because they've been so ascendant in both the cultural and the political spheres, that there is no breaking point.

00:16:12.320 That they're just going to be able to push for full-scale societal change on every level.

00:16:16.560 And that there will be no resistance to that.

00:16:18.520 And they're going to come up against some hard truths if they start to do things that, for example, if you get into Beto O'Rourke gun confiscation or if you get into shutting down religious schools.

00:16:28.480 There are certain things that Americans just won't stand for, which is why I hope that at some point it will be everybody back away a little bit.

00:16:36.180 But with the left pushing this hard, the real possibility of a countrywide division obviously is growing.

00:16:43.960 And then the left is not shy about kind of wanting it.

00:16:47.300 I mean, as soon as Trump wants it in places like California, we're talking about secession.

00:16:50.900 The problem is if California becomes the entire federal government, then it's going to be a lot of people on the right who are talking about, can we actually last as a unified country?

00:17:00.220 Ben, I want to go to what the Supreme Court did yesterday because they did a couple of things.

00:17:04.900 And I think a lot of people who are conservative are torn on what they did to Title VII because, you know, most people, most normal people are, they don't have a problem with homosexuality as friends.

00:17:21.200 We work with people.

00:17:22.300 We know people.

00:17:23.180 We like them.

00:17:24.440 You know, it's not a problem.

00:17:25.680 I don't want to get into somebody else's business.

00:17:27.780 But is this another jam down and another intrusion on businesses and religion?

00:17:41.800 Tell me what you think of Title VII and what they did yesterday.

00:17:45.060 So, I mean, to be frank, I've for a long time thought that Title VII probably is unconstitutional its entirety.

00:17:52.520 The idea that the federal government was ever given the power to invade private businesses and tell them who and who not to employ seems to me incredibly problematic just from a constitutional, originalist level.

00:18:03.540 Now, does that mean that I wouldn't have voted for the Civil Rights Act in its entirety?

00:18:06.660 If I'm given the choice in voting for the thing or not voting for the thing, I vote for the thing.

00:18:10.020 But Title VII has always been a real problem because, again, it intrudes into areas that the government ought not intrude.

00:18:15.480 Remember, the big problem with segregation in general was the governments of states that were cramming down segregation.

00:18:21.560 And that there were plenty of places in the United States that were desegregated by private businesses.

00:18:27.140 I mean, the Greensboro protests over the lunch counters in Bloomington, North Carolina, those particular – in Greensboro, rather – those protests were private in nature and ended with the desegregation of lunch counters.

00:18:42.320 So the notion that you had to force private businesses to desegregate is not true.

00:18:47.180 What you actually had to do is stop the state from forcing them to segregate in the first place.

00:18:50.420 So put aside the general objection to Title VII, the decision itself is nonsensical on the merits.

00:18:55.920 I mean, Samuel Alito's dissent is a masterpiece.

00:18:58.640 I mean, it goes for 100 pages, but it tears apart savagely the majority opinion.

00:19:03.680 There's a good case to be made that the reason that Roberts joined this opinion is specifically so he can get Gorsuch to write it.

00:19:08.840 And the reason that he wanted Gorsuch to write it as opposed to Ginsburg, for example, is because if Gorsuch writes it and not Ginsburg, if Ginsburg writes this thing,

00:19:15.180 then religious liberty is in a lot more danger from this specific decision than if Gorsuch writes it.

00:19:21.560 So that really is the question right now.

00:19:23.740 Now, here's my view on a lot of Supreme Court jurisprudence in general.

00:19:27.920 The Supreme Court tries to very often settle questions that are still unsettled, and that really ought not be settled by the Supreme Court.

00:19:33.820 And that is this particular case.

00:19:34.880 This is not within the Supreme Court's purview.

00:19:36.460 And so there are a lot of people today who are celebrating, oh, look, it's a new America.

00:19:39.700 We're all unified now because there's a top-down rule.

00:19:42.960 Here's the thing.

00:19:43.520 America is as politically divided as it has been certainly in my lifetime and maybe in the lifetime of your listeners, including the 60s.

00:19:51.760 And the idea that you're going to have anybody at the top of the federal government cramming down a one-size-fits-all rule is really a problem.

00:19:58.620 I mean, what the founders figured is that in division lies unity so long as you have a diversity of thought and action that is allowed across the country.

00:20:07.340 If you have a unified rule that crams down by 51 percent on 49 percent, that's when you get into really divisive areas.

00:20:13.280 So are you going to keep the country running by allowing people to live their lives?

00:20:16.500 Are you going to keep the country running by cramming down one rule from the top?

00:20:19.780 This one crams down one rule from the top.

00:20:21.480 And whether you like the rule or you don't like the rule, that's a dangerous thing.

00:20:23.720 So, you know, I think that's what the French Revolution was all about and what separates us from the French Revolution is the French Revolution really was about you're we're going to enforce morality.

00:20:35.800 We're going to enforce what we believe is right.

00:20:38.880 And if you don't like it guillotine, it doesn't it doesn't work.

00:20:43.620 The the question that I have, though, on this ruling, how does this affect me?

00:20:50.180 And I keep I keep using let's say I'm I am.

00:20:55.020 Well, let me just use a real life scenario.

00:20:57.040 I think it's Bergdorf Goodman in New York that they hire, quote, models, not salespeople.

00:21:02.620 I can't remember which store it is, but it may be Bergdorf.

00:21:05.480 And this allows them to be able to say when, you know, a fat person like me comes in and says, I want to sell clothes here.

00:21:13.200 They can say, I'm sorry, you don't fit the the look.

00:21:15.920 And they do it specifically to get around the law so they can make sure that everybody looks a certain way, because that's important.

00:21:24.640 I don't want to go in and buy a suit where the guys around me can't even fit into the suit or, you know, they can look at me and I can look at them.

00:21:32.780 And they're like, dude, there's nothing here for you to buy, Glenn. 0.76

00:21:35.200 You're just too fat to be here. 0.51

00:21:36.560 And so they it's important that they have a certain image. 0.98

00:21:42.240 If I have if I have Bob at the front desk of my business and he comes in and he says, I'm Bob bett and he's wearing a dress.

00:21:53.040 Can I fire him because he doesn't fit into the the culture and the image that I'm trying to portray?

00:22:00.600 Or does that not matter anymore?

00:22:02.380 So you'll certainly get a lawsuit and it's been true in New York for a long time.

00:22:07.040 So New York is actually the wrong example because New York already has anti-discrimination laws.

00:22:10.760 Same thing as California. Right.

00:22:11.820 Twenty one of these states already have laws that are very much like what the Supreme Court did yesterday.

00:22:15.860 So New York, it probably won't affect you.

00:22:17.520 And you probably had to worry about legal liability if you did that in any case.

00:22:20.720 Now, if you do it in Texas, you have to worry about legal liability.

00:22:23.480 Right. That's that's the real issue here.

00:22:24.800 And by the way, the best example here is actually the case of if you're talking about things that are a problem, then we should worry less about, you know, the business that has models and more about your third grade teacher.

00:22:36.120 Right. You got a bunch of kids in your school and you're in the teacher comes in one day and says they are the opposite gender and start teaching your child about transgender ideology.

00:22:44.460 That's very you fired that person.

00:22:46.060 That could very well be a violation of Title seven of the Civil Rights Act.

00:22:49.760 Now, now, this is nonsensical. I mean, just on a legal level, it is completely bull crap. 0.98

00:22:53.840 When I say that, I say it advisedly with respect toward Justice Gorsuch, who typically I think is a much better textualist than this. 0.57

00:22:59.760 But he admits in the decision that has nothing to do with the Civil Rights Act.

00:23:02.700 He says in the decision that there's no way that the people who wrote the Civil Rights Act meant to encompass in this homosexuality or transgenderism.

00:23:10.740 And the Democrats know this, by the way, Democrats have been trying to pass a separate bill called the Equality Act that would do exactly this without religious exemptions for years.

00:23:18.040 And so the idea that magically you can now read the Equality Act into the Civil Rights Act is insane.

00:23:23.240 I mean, this is something that Alito mocks and correctly so, because there is nothing textualist about the idea that you can take the word sex and then read into it sexual orientation or transgenderism.

00:23:33.760 In fact, it's the only way that this is the hilarity of it.

00:23:37.100 The only way you can actually read transgenderism into the Civil Rights Act is to reject the claim of transgender people that they are members of the sex to which they claim membership.

00:23:44.980 So follow me here.

00:23:45.880 The basic idea is that if you fire somebody, Bob comes in one day and he says, I'm Janine and I'm a woman, you know, full beard.

00:23:53.820 He hasn't done any of the freedom, nothing right.

00:23:55.820 He just comes in and he says, I'm a woman.

00:23:57.500 And you say, OK, well, you're fired, right?

00:23:59.160 You know, you're teaching my third graders.

00:24:00.540 No.

00:24:01.180 And he the idea is you have discriminated against him as a man, right?

00:24:05.860 You haven't discriminated against him as a woman.

00:24:07.440 You discriminated against him as a man, which is a rejection of his claim to be a woman.

00:24:11.460 Right.

00:24:11.640 But you discriminated against him as a man.

00:24:13.660 So what's the discrimination exactly?

00:24:15.900 Right.

00:24:16.240 You said you're doing a thing I don't like.

00:24:19.860 Right.

00:24:20.100 But you have been discriminated against on the basis of sex.

00:24:22.820 But sex is biological sex.

00:24:24.340 So you actually haven't been discriminated against as a man.

00:24:26.300 You've been discriminated against, presumably, as a woman.

00:24:28.840 So none of this makes any sense.

00:24:30.440 The only way you can call it discrimination, again, on the basis of sex, is to say that

00:24:34.180 he is actually a man, which is something that transgender people reject. 0.99

00:24:37.240 So you now have the bizarre situation in which it is discriminatory to perhaps say in the

00:24:43.520 workplace, this is where really the rubber hits the road.

00:24:46.000 Let's say that you have a religious school, you know, a secular side of the religious school,

00:24:49.660 which all religious schools do.

00:24:51.280 You have a person who comes in and says, I'm transgender now.

00:24:54.100 And you say, well, you know, here at the school, we have you don't even fire the guy.

00:24:58.100 You say, you know what, you get to work here because it's Title VII.

00:25:00.920 And then he's walking around the school and people are saying things like, you know, that's

00:25:03.720 a dude, right?

00:25:04.520 That's not a lady. 1.00

00:25:05.440 That's a dude.

00:25:06.280 Is that a discriminatory work environment?

00:25:08.140 It very well may be.

00:25:09.400 And it very well may be a work environment that provides legal liability.

00:25:13.940 So now you get into free speech issues, right?

00:25:15.900 You actually have free speech issues as to what you're allowed to say on this basis because

00:25:20.000 you're not sexually harassing anybody.

00:25:21.320 You're just saying something that is actually true.

00:25:23.300 But that may very well be sex discrimination under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.

00:25:26.980 It also provides serious problems for Title Mine.

00:25:29.580 So Title VII is now in complete conflict with Title Mine.

00:25:31.760 Title Mine is designed in order to protect women, right? 1.00

00:25:34.180 So Title Mine says, we're going to protect, for example, women's sports.

00:25:37.160 Well, once you say that you're not allowed to reject transgender people for anything on

00:25:42.140 the basis of their transgenderism, how do you have separate women's sports and how do 1.00

00:25:45.440 you fund them?

00:25:45.980 How do you have separate women's bathrooms? 1.00

00:25:47.460 How do you have separate women's locker rooms? 1.00

00:25:48.840 Now, Gorsuch acknowledges that a lot of these things are undecided.

00:25:51.840 He says, well, we'll save those for the future.

00:25:53.400 Well, great.

00:25:54.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:25:54.800 That sounds fantastic.

00:25:55.340 Good.

00:25:55.700 Good.

00:25:55.840 So, I mean, he says, he openly says, yeah.

00:26:00.240 Let me, let me, sorry to interrupt, but I know I have a short period of time with you

00:26:03.600 and I want to get to one other question on the Second Amendment.

00:26:07.280 But let me just end this segment with this question.

00:26:11.600 Does this, do you believe the protection for religious exceptions is strong?

00:26:19.260 No one knows.

00:26:22.940 There's the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which basically grants you the ability, if

00:26:28.340 you're a religious institution, to protect yourself, but that doesn't necessarily cover

00:26:31.400 secular teachers and your employee.

00:26:32.900 It also doesn't necessarily cover insurance issues.

00:26:34.900 Gorsuch says that he hopes that the religious protections are strong and he may have those

00:26:39.680 leanings.

00:26:40.080 Now, they've taken up a couple cases on some of these specific issues that are supposed

00:26:43.300 to come down the pike next year, including broadening the ministerial exemption.

00:26:46.900 And so my friend David French, who's a legal analyst with Alliance Defending Freedom, among

00:26:51.300 other groups, he has suggested that what the court may be going for here is so-called fairness

00:26:55.460 for all, which is sort of what they have in Utah, which is very strong workplace protections

00:26:59.160 for transgender and gay people, but also a lot of exemptions for religious people.

00:27:03.740 But who the hell knows?

00:27:05.280 And of course, that could basically change any time because as soon as the Democrats get

00:27:08.880 into office, if God forbid in six months, they just have the Equality Act, they remove

00:27:12.460 the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, and a lot of those protections are now gone.

00:27:15.180 Welcome back to the program, Dr. Michael Rechtenwald.

00:27:27.480 He's got a new book out called Beyond Woke.

00:27:31.620 Michael, I think you were the first guy to say this is a cultural revolution.

00:27:35.820 This is a Maoist cultural revolution.

00:27:38.140 And when you said it last year, I don't think I really connected it.

00:27:41.760 But I just looked it up again this week.

00:27:45.080 I'm doing some research for a special we're doing on Wednesday.

00:27:48.400 And this is exactly the Maoist cultural revolution from the 1960s in China.

00:27:54.200 Absolutely.

00:27:56.160 Thank you for having me, Glenn.

00:27:57.320 It's great to be here.

00:27:58.340 Yeah, we're going through it.

00:27:59.860 I mean, we see everything that the Maoists did, the Red Guards.

00:28:04.660 They destroyed monuments.

00:28:07.700 They destroyed churches.

00:28:09.160 They destroyed small businesses.

00:28:10.820 They tried to wipe out the national heritage.

00:28:13.840 Cultural memory, historical memory, the renaming of streets, the attacks on the privileged and

00:28:19.880 authority figures, scapegoating, social groups, ritual shaming of self and others, like the

00:28:26.260 people kneeling and those who are asked to kneel, all this self-abnegation, all this is

00:28:30.820 out of the Maoist playbook.

00:28:34.480 It is absolutely incredible when you say that, because I think you said that a year ago, and

00:28:42.580 now I see it happening.

00:28:43.780 And I went back to look it all up, and it's identical.

00:28:47.980 I mean, what are the odds that this is a coincidence?

00:28:52.040 I mean, there are no coincidences here.

00:28:55.900 These people have studied this material, but they've also learned it through this material

00:29:01.980 all came through France in 1968 when the French student uprising was going on.

00:29:10.700 They were reading Mao's Little Red Book.

00:29:12.640 All this stuff filtered into the Western left and has never left it.

00:29:16.680 It's always been there percolating.

00:29:19.140 It's been there gestating, just under the surface.

00:29:23.680 And you saw it coming out through Twitter mobs, stuff like that.

00:29:27.140 And I said, this was really a cultural revolution on the way.

00:29:31.080 And we see it happening.

00:29:32.580 I mean, what we also see, similarly, we see the kind of funding from corporations who are

00:29:40.860 unwittingly giving money to people, basically, as Lenin said, the capitalists will sell us

00:29:47.080 the rope to hang him with.

00:29:48.420 So do you think that they really are unwittingly doing this?

00:29:53.860 I mean, this is the Tides Foundation has been trying to turn the corporations towards Marxism,

00:30:01.080 strangely, since the 1980s, since Reagan went in.

00:30:05.060 They felt that they had totally lost and they needed to remount a new attack.

00:30:09.740 As they learned in the 60s, they needed the entire culture, but they also needed the corporations.

00:30:18.160 Well, they have the entire culture.

00:30:20.480 And now the corporations are in their pocket.

00:30:24.680 Is it really unwittingly? 1.00

00:30:26.320 I mean, how stupid do you have to be if you're Nike? 0.99

00:30:28.420 On the part of some of them, it's unwitting, but like the Ford Foundation has a big contributor 1.00

00:30:34.600 to the movement for black lives.

00:30:37.520 The movement for black lives is the umbrella group under which Black Lives Matter operates.

00:30:44.140 Now, the movement for black lives says straightforwardly on their about page that they are anti-capitalist,

00:30:51.240 that capitalism must be overthrown for justice.

00:30:53.920 Therefore, they are giving money directly to communists.

00:30:59.200 And this is very, very clear, but not every corporation that's doing this understands what's going on.

00:31:05.660 I mean, you see small corporations here and there giving $300,000 to Black Lives Matter.

00:31:11.400 They think they're doing it for good PR.

00:31:14.200 Yeah, they think this is good PR and it's going to be good for business.

00:31:17.740 But it's basically selling the rope with which they'll hang the capitalist.

00:31:22.140 Is it true Marx said, and was it Marx or Lenin that said, America is the prize.

00:31:34.700 It's going to be the perfect communist society because it will go through capitalism.

00:31:40.760 And in the end, it will be a capitalism will be so corrupt.

00:31:46.080 And the leader of America will be the ultimate capitalist.

00:31:52.540 And it will be so grotesque that everyone will run to Marxism and communism.

00:31:59.180 Is that true?

00:32:00.180 Have you ever read that?

00:32:01.620 That was Lenin, and it's true. 0.96

00:32:05.220 But it didn't happen as they had planned.

00:32:07.720 The working classes in the United States and much of Western Europe weren't down with it.

00:32:12.360 But then the cultural Marxist revolution started with the Frankfurt School of Critical Theory.

00:32:19.540 And they came over to the United States and seeded their ideas here.

00:32:23.220 They said, what's wrong with these workers?

00:32:25.760 They're happy.

00:32:26.520 They're happy consumers.

00:32:28.200 They're imbibing the same material resources that the capitalist class is taking in.

00:32:34.820 There's something wrong here.

00:32:36.240 So we have to attack what the real roots are.

00:32:38.880 And they started to go into matters like culture, like the family, like advertising.

00:32:46.480 They saw advertising as duping the working classes.

00:32:50.120 They saw ideology as the main function.

00:32:52.640 So they started an ideological war.

00:32:55.260 And that's what's been going on.

00:32:56.700 It's been going on in the universities for 50 years.

00:32:59.740 And it's finally taking some sort of roots and taking the roots are finally, I should say, sprouting these weeds into the into the culture and into the into the popular sphere and also into the political sphere.

00:33:15.200 Because we have many politicians from the Democratic Party buying into it and supporting it and, you know, giving it their full endorsement.

00:33:25.100 So, you know, it's been a long haul through the institutions, a long march through the institutions, which was the idea that was floated by Antonio Gromsky, the Italian Marxist, would be to wage an ideological war for ideological hegemony or over over, you know, complete dominance.

00:33:45.960 And, you know, that's what they've been up to for 50 years.

00:33:49.100 So, Michael, as I have studied revolutions, you need education, you need the universities, the academics, you need people on the inside of the government, you need the media, all these different things you need.

00:34:07.200 They've always had all of them.

00:34:09.000 And they may even now looks like they may have members in the Pentagon as well.

00:34:14.640 Yes.

00:34:15.160 Is there anything that you have seen in your studies like we know that violence is part of it and they want they're begging for violence?

00:34:24.500 The the left has been begging for the right to stand up and be violent so the the press could make us into monsters.

00:34:32.820 What is the thing that, in retrospect, the people of China or people in revolutions could have done, besides violence, that we could still do to stop this?

00:34:46.840 Well, let's start with Trump.

00:34:49.100 How about an anti and anti-propaganda campaign?

00:34:53.380 How about exposing the true underlying intentions of these people?

00:34:58.220 I know he says anti-fra is communist, but he doesn't prove it.

00:35:02.300 And not only anti-fra, but the movement for black lives is communist.

00:35:06.740 How about an anti-propaganda campaign first?

00:35:09.700 And then how about the statement of principles?

00:35:12.120 Just why this is wrong morally, economically and otherwise.

00:35:16.740 This has to be explicated.

00:35:18.420 It has to be made perfectly clear.

00:35:20.940 But it's not happening.

00:35:21.940 It's it's not happening to the extent that it needs to, at least.

00:35:26.080 But wait a minute.

00:35:26.960 Hang on just a second, Michael.

00:35:28.220 I know you know who Edward Bernays is and the study of propaganda and and the study of crowds that he and his his uncle really did a lot of work on Sigmund Freud.

00:35:44.000 There is I just read a bunch of stuff from him last night.

00:35:47.080 And there is something to the psychology of a crowd that when they are going, they shut off all critical thinking.

00:35:54.720 So how does making the case that these guys are Marxist penetrate when we are so deeply divided into our groups?

00:36:03.020 Well, you have, you know, a great number of people that don't know what's going on.

00:36:08.260 They are you know, you see the support for Black Lives Matter has has dramatic dramatically risen despite all the all this violence and despite the intention being clear.

00:36:18.620 So, I mean, those people are a critical mass that have to be reached first.

00:36:23.160 And then you isolate the radicals from the rest.

00:36:26.620 That's the way to do it, because we have to get to the people who are unwittingly supporting communist revolution.

00:36:33.380 And those people are just not educated as to what's happening.

00:36:39.120 And, you know, the bully pulpit is the best start.

00:36:42.380 It's not the end by any stretch.

00:36:45.140 I mean, there needs to be a national conversation where we go, listen, this is what's on the table.

00:36:50.800 Is this really where we want to go?

00:36:52.380 And, you know, get some of these people in the room and then start talking to them, because as it is, everybody's in an echo chamber here as they very well set up these echo chambers.

00:37:04.340 And there's no crosstalk going on at all.

00:37:08.900 Michael, you wrote in your book, and I think this is absolutely brilliant.

00:37:13.120 You said first the left translated Marxism into identity politics.

00:37:17.200 Now, with the Black Lives Matter movement, they're translating identity politics back into Marxism. 0.99

00:37:24.640 Yes.

00:37:25.600 This was the big trick that was undertaken by Herbert Marcuse, the Frankfurt School theorist.

00:37:31.720 And he said, look, the working class in America is just not going to be that revolutionary agent that we'd hoped for. 0.99

00:37:37.240 So let's start cobbling together all these different identity groups, you know, blacks, environmentalists, other types of stray leftists.

00:37:45.740 And let's put them under a common umbrella, and we'll march forward under this rather than under the umbrella of anti-capitalism.

00:37:53.980 So it'll be identity politics.

00:37:55.800 And we've seen that identity politics has been rife for the last, what, 40 years.

00:38:01.540 That's really the way this is shown.

00:38:03.340 Now, subtly and ever so surreptitiously, they have realized that they've translated this, they have translated this identity politics right back into Marxism, where they wanted to be in the first place.

00:38:17.400 That's exactly what's happening, because we see Black Lives Matter really has an anti-capitalist agenda. 0.82

00:38:23.400 We see the Antifa, of course, is anti-capitalist, but all this identity politics and fighting against the so-called Nazis, all this was a part of reintroducing Marxism into the agenda.

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