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Bill O'Reilly is here with a town hall debate about climate change, Walmart and the NRA, and the future of guns and gun control. We also have Dave Rubin on Blaze TV talking about how L.A. is changing and the dynamics of politics. And Jordan Peterson says he's not an atheist.
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Hello, podcasters. It is Friday. We've got the future of guns and gun control and how ridiculous
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this is. I'd like to introduce you to something called the 3D printer. Also, Bill O'Reilly is
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here. Climate change with a town hall. It just won't end. Walmart and the NRA, Amazon, Apple,
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Google, kind of an argument, really, between Stu and I with Bill O'Reilly. He thinks that
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the Republicans have to compromise on the Second Amendment or they're going to lose.
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I don't understand how you compromise on the Bill of Rights. We also have Dave Rubin on,
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really fascinating. Joining the Blaze TV is Dave Rubin. We talked to him about how L.A.
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is changing and the dynamics of politics. Also, he's known as an atheist, but he now, after
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traveling with Jordan Peterson, says, I'm really not Jordan Peterson. I mean, I'm really
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not an atheist. Jordan Peterson made a lot of sense to me. And the taste test we've all
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been waiting for. The Impossible Whopper, all on today's podcast.
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It was September 25th, 2017. Stephen Paddock checked into a room on the 32nd floor of the
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Mandalay Bay Hotel in Las Vegas. He had 10 range bags full of guns and ammunition. And six days later,
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he opened fire on the people on Route 91 at the Harvest Music Festival. He killed 85 people.
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He wounded 851 others in what is the deadliest mass shooting committed by one person in U.S.
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history. And then he killed himself. When police investigated, they found 23 rifles and one handgun,
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14 .223 caliber AR-15 type rifles, 8 .308 AR-10 type rifles, 1 .308 caliber bolt action rifle,
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and 1 .38 caliber revolver. On the kitchen counter next to his hotel room key, there were four credit
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cards. Now, I want you to listen to Andrew Ross Sorkin. He's a, he's certain that there is a
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correlation between, uh, mass shootings and the credit cards. Listen. After Parkland, uh, the
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shooting in Parkland, uh, and trying to look at the role that banks and credit cards play in these
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things, I really decided to take a deep dive, uh, into this. Uh, the, the article is called, uh,
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devastating arsenals bought with plastic and nary a red flag. Uh, it is a New York Times investigation
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that looks at mass shootings, every single major mass shooting in America since Virginia Tech
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in 2007. And it really reveals how credit cards have become such a crucial part of the planning
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of these massacres in a way that I have to say, I did not even appreciate myself.
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So, you know, he is, um, becoming much more of an activist than a reporter. He wrote the article,
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how banks unwittingly finance mass shootings in the New York Times. We have some problems with the
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article and I'll get to those here in just a second, but let me look at his point first.
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He starts by pointing out that there have been 13 shootings that killed 10 or more people in the
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last decade. And in at least eight of them, the killers financed their attacks using credit cards.
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Virginia Tech, Virginia Tech in 2007, uh, Binghamton in 2009, Fort Hood, 09, Aurora, 12,
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San Bernardino, 2015, Orlando, 16, Sutherland Springs, 17, Las Vegas, 17. He points out
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that over the course of eight months before the Pulse nightclub, uh, in the, uh, in Orlando,
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that shooting, the shooter opened six new credit card accounts just 12 days before the shooting.
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He spent $26,000 on a Sig Sauer, uh, MCX 223 caliber rifle, a Glock 17, nine millimeter
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semi-automatic pistol and several large magazines, thousands of rounds of ammunition and a $7,500
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ring for his wife that he bought on a jewelry store credit card. Before then he had spent only
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$1,500 a month on average. Now the difference is so dramatic that he panicked. According to Sorkin,
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uh, just two days before the shooting, frantically, he was searching Google for credit card,
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unusual spending credit card reports, all three bureaus, FBI, and why banks stop your purchases.
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Now the shooter in Aurora, Colorado, the movie theater shooter spent $11,000 on guns and ammunition
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and that was all on a credit card. The issue has revealed a split among the banks and credit card
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companies. On one side, there are companies that support monitoring as a form of public safety.
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Following the shooting in Parkland, Florida, Citigroup adopted a new code of conduct for gun dealers and
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manufacturers. The bank does business with it requires retailers to impose age restrictions on
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gun sales. Wouldn't have helped. CEO Michael Corbett said the policies intended to preserve the rights of
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responsible gun owners like myself, right while relying on best sales practices to keep firearms out of
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the wrong hands. Now the new policy does not restrict Citigroup customers from using the
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company's cards for gun purchases. Bank of America took a similar approach when they stopped giving
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loans to manufacturers of certain kinds of semi-automatic rifles sold to civilians.
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Overwhelmingly though, the banks and credit card companies have refused to take part in any sort of
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monitoring. This week, the New York Times is reporting that's because of conservative pressure.
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Wells Fargo, the CEO there said, I don't think it's a good idea for banks to decide what products and
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services Americans can buy. It shouldn't be up to me, to us. We don't decide that. It should be up to
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the folks following the laws and the folks making the decision. Wells Fargo CFO, John Shrewsbury said,
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the best way to make progress on these issues is through political and legislative process.
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Visa said, we don't believe Visa should be in the position of setting restrictions on the sale of
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lawful goods or services. Asking Visa or other payment networks to arbitrate what legal goods can
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be purchased sets a dangerous precedent. Spokesperson from MasterCard echoed that sentiment. Privacy,
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privacy of people's purchasing decisions belongs to them. It's cardholder independence.
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Jeremy Stein, an economics professor at Harvard University, rightly points out,
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if the banks decide no longer to do business with gun manufacturers, they would need to look more
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closely at the customer's information. And by doing so, they'd be getting into the same issues
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Facebook and others have had problems with. So even if banks and credit card companies agreed to start
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monitoring purchases, gun sales are difficult to track because they appear on statements at sporting
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goods or retail shop purchases. Big box retailers like Walmart, they're not selling guns or ammunition
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anymore. They've been, they have on their receipts, their code just says variety. They sell groceries,
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pet supplies and, and everything else. Dick's sporting goods imposed restrictions on their gun sales.
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And a former FBI counterterrorism prosecutor and staff member of the FBI 9-11 Review Commission
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insist this is easy to fix. They have the infrastructure already in place. All they have to do to deal with
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suspicious activity is use that infrastructure, just be tweaking it to consider firearm related information.
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Information is the key word here. Information, your information. Now there are measures in place.
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For instance, bank have to report every time a single person makes a transaction over $10,000.
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That transaction could be totally legal. Banks have to report the transaction.
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At over $5,000, they have to report it if they suspect suspicious activity. There are also laws that
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restrict gun purchases under the Gun Control Act of 1968. Firearm dealers must report if someone buys
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two or has two or more handguns in the span of five business days. There's also a lot of official
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blowback from the idea that banks will monitor all of our purchases now, effectively compiling a list of
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gun owners. Last year, John Kennedy, a Republican senator from Louisiana, introduced the No Red or Blue
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Banks Act. The bill would prohibit the federal government from giving contracts to banks
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that discriminate against lawful business base solely on social policy considerations. Even the ACLU has come
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out against the monitoring of the banks. Jay Stanley, senior policy analyst for ACLU.
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The implication of expecting the government to detect and prevent every mass shooting is believing
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government should play an enormously intrusive role in the American life.
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Which brings us back to Andrew Ross Sorkin's New York Times article.
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He doesn't seem convinced by any of this. In fact, this week in the New York Times,
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we have just begun this fight. He prefers government stepping in and forcing these companies to start
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monitoring their customers, you. Or at least the credit card companies made that, uh, uh, made that choice
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of their own, uh, volition. So government doesn't have to. We just really think that they should.
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Here he is in an interview on PBS. So right now, legally, you decide you're going to send $10,000
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anywhere. That gets reported to the government. Instantly. Instantly. Already does. So we could
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instantly have reported this person just stockpiled $40,000 worth of weapons and grenades. Absolutely.
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Okay. He makes a valid point, or at least starts to, but it's what he says next. He takes it into a
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strange direction here. And by the way, the credit card industry has on its own volition decided that
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there's certain things they don't want to finance. So if you want to buy Bitcoin, you can't. Uh,
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marijuana in, in many States is legal. Yeah, you can't. MasterCard, interestingly, recently,
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uh, went to a website that had some hate speech on it, um, and said, we're no longer going to allow
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you to use credit card transactions using MasterCard because, uh, of this hate speech. So there are
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companies that are taking positions, if you will, on some of these things. And the question is how
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that can work in relation to guns. So he starts by saying, it's bad that credit card companies
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infringe on people's rights in other situations. You know, people purchase marijuana or punish
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websites for hate speech. It's bad. That should be the end of his point. Full stop. But it's not.
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He goes on then by saying, why can't we do that in relation to guns?
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His article quotes a number of experts who are more or less just repeating a version of the same
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thing. Credit card companies should bear responsibility for mass shootings. More importantly,
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he just assumes that the connection does exist, but is there a connection between credit card
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companies and mass shootings or is it spurious? The best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Hey, it's Glenn. And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray
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Unleashed. His podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast. Welcome to the
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program, sir. Do I have to do the rumba here? Yeah, you do. What kind of music is that? That's,
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uh, that's Bill O'Reilly. He's here. It's going to be, uh, zany, crazy, and there will be some
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dancing. Uh, I'm ready to do the Macarena whenever you want. Okay. Uh, Bill, let's start with the,
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uh, the never ending town hall meeting on CNN. Still going on. Um, yeah, they've now got, uh,
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animated cartoon characters playing in on what they're going to do. Yes. Um, it's a telethon over
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the weekend. And, uh, I, I don't think Jerry Lewis is going to appear, but he may. So you,
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you're a guy who, you, you're a guy who looks at the ratings. I'm dying to know what the ratings for
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that thing were. Um, this is the irony of it. They were bad and they were outrated by the hurricane.
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So, and there's nothing really blaming the global warming, uh, blaming the hurricane on the global
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warming with of course, no data or facts to back that up. It's crazy. Um, and then people are going,
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you know what? I, I think I'll just watch the real hurricane, not you. Uh, that's what happens.
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CNN did about a little bit more than a million. It's a little bit better than they usually do
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because you know, they usually don't do anybody. Okay. So, uh, let's do the headlines. First of all,
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I do believe there is a warming on the planet because I can read the thermometers and the
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temperatures that come in from around the world. I also went up to Glacier Bay in, in Alaska and I
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talked to the Marines biologist up there. He said they've lost half the glacier up there. I also
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used to play ice hockey on long Island for two months outside during the winter on a pond that was
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frozen last winter. Not one day. Could you do that? So the temperature is changing. Now you go
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into, well, can human beings do anything about it? Most certainly we can all be cleaner. I mean,
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it breaks my heart because as you know, I'm big ocean guy that there's so much gunk in the ocean and
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plastics. I can't figure out why laser technology hasn't been able to just disintegrate these plastic
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stuff after we use it. I don't know why that hasn't happened, but the plastic stuff is winding
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up in the oceans. It's awful. So I'm not some guy who goes, there's no global warming. This is God
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doing this. I'm not. All right. I do believe that the planet has been impacted by bad things from human
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beings. Okay. Now we have a bunch of totalitarian Stalinists and that's exactly who they are that are
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saying to the American people. Unless you do what we tell you to do in every aspect of your life,
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the planet and the world are going to end in 10 years, 15 years, maybe 20. So you got to do what
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we tell you to do. And then the litany of stuff starts and you back rightly were pithy and said,
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they want to take all your freedoms away, freedom of choice, freedom of how you live your life.
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And the central government in Washington, D.C. is going to tell you exactly what you eat, where you
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go, how you get there and how the jobs are doled out all under the guise of saving you from global
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warming. There it is. So do the American people connect with this bill?
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I don't know whether, whether people pay attention enough to see Elizabeth Warren, a very dangerous
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woman. And Bernie Sanders are basically saying, they're saying, we're going to take as much money
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as we can from every American worker and give it to other people because global warming impacts
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the minority communities the most. That's the latest. You saw that, right?
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Okay. So this guy who wrote this book, this professor at American University, said, hey, hey, hey, hey,
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global warming impacts people of color because more people of color live in the Southern
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Hemisphere, and that's where global warming is worse. So if you don't fight it, you're a racist.
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That's the latest. The book is out. Some people actually bought it.
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So every time you put gas in your car, get on an airplane, you're a racist. You're a racist
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because that's exacerbating global warming. So this is how insane it's gotten. Now, your question
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is, do most Americans know it's insane? I would say no, because the media, the national media,
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particularly on television, doesn't point any of this out. You can only hear it on the O'Reilly
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update, on BillOReilly.com, on The Blaze, on the Glenn Beck radio show. That's where you're going to
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hear it. Not going to see it in the New York Times or hear it on NBC News. So they suppress, I love that
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word, suppress the real thing that's going on with the global warming. It is a power play. That's what it
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is. So, you know, you were saying that if you gas up your car, it's a racist. Bernie Sanders was
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talking about aborting poor children from third world countries, most likely not white paying for
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the read it that way. What? I have to say, I didn't read it that Bernie Sanders wants to kill minority
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children. What is he saying? I, this is how I read it. And remember, Bernie Sanders is 112 years old.
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So a lot of times it doesn't come out very clear. It's kind of like Biden. So what I, what I heard
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him say, what I think he said was, if you can ram birth control down more women's throats,
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it's better for them. Yeah, that's a very much, very much what Margaret Sanger said too.
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Yes. And we know the eugenics of Margaret Sanger. Right. But, but here's another thing for you
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global warming fans out there. Um, and I understand a new, uh, a new, uh, sports franchise in San
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Francisco is going to be called the climate changers. Okay. So it's going to be great out
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there. Um, here's a, here's an, here, here's something else. So if Sanders or Warren are elected
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president, which they won't be, but if they were, all right, then we would have all these
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draconian changes to our economy and lifestyles in the pursuit of saving us from, uh, destruction.
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Do you think that Russia is going to not use fossil fuels when it, it's in toxic economy is based on
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oil? How about China with 1.5 billion people? All right. Uh, many of whom, um, are, are living
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from day to day? Are they going to knock out all the fossil fuels over in China? How about
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India? You know, are they going to do that? I don't think so. Japan, Japan still is massacring
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whales. We can't even get them to stop killing the whales over there. All right. They're going
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to stop with the fossil fuels over there. I don't think so. Okay. So we United States and
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Sweden, all right, we're going to, we're going to go back and live in the 19th century. All
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right. We're going to have campfires. Maybe we can't even have them. Well, maybe campfires
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are not going to be well. All right. And then everybody else is going to go, Oh, look at
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these Americans. They destroyed their own economy. They blew up their own lifestyle. All right.
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They're all on horseback again. I mean, this is so absurd. This is, this is like a Saturday
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night live skit when that show used to be funny, which was like 30 years ago. Um, all right.
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Did I cover everything? I think you, I think you covered everything. Uh, I, I want to take
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you now to the gun debate, but let me break for one minute. So we have lots of time on
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the other side to talk about what's happening with the gun debate and your take on Walmart
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and this article that we have not heard Trump speak about, but we have had from the administration,
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a leak in the administration on something that they are looking at and considering on how
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to make sure the guns don't get in the hands of bad guys. So this week, San Francisco has
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designated the NRA as a terrorist organization. You want to talk about dividing the country
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that's calling half of the country, uh, uh, terrorists or, or financing a terrorist organization.
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That seems a little divisive. Um, but also we have Walmart who has decided that they are
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going to take a stand against guns and ammunition, something they have a right to do, but Bill,
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Oh, um, the momentum in America and Republicans need to understand this.
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is for more stringent regulation of heavy weapons. All right. So I don't know what Walmart does
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or, or doesn't do. And I don't really particularly care. You pointed out they have a right to do
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whatever they want. And if you don't want to shop at Walmart anymore, don't. But the bigger issue for
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the country is that president Trump knows he's got to do something to appear to be concerned about
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these mass murders. Now I'm not saying he's not concerned, but if the Republicans and Mitch McConnell
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and the Senate don't do anything, they're going to lose the Senate and the house next time around,
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because the Democrats are going to run wild with this issue. So the Republicans have to back some
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kind of more, um, focused, I think that's the best word, uh, more focused legislation on keeping
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these high powered guns out of the hands of nuts. Okay. So wait, so hang on. Is it going to work?
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No. Right. I think everybody understands that mass murder will always be with us. Right. And hang
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on just a second. And that most criminals can get guns illegally. I think everybody got that.
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AR, these, these, these weapons of war, they're called weapons of war because America first really
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started noticing them during Vietnam, but they were invented as a modern sporting rifle. That's what
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they're called. Modern sporting rifles. They'd been around since the 1950s. We had them through the
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sixties, the seventies, the eighties, the nineties. And today it's, there's no difference. We have had
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these. There's not a problem with the gun. There's a problem with humanity. Something is missing.
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Remember there was a federal assault weapons ban that did nothing that did nothing. It was there and
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it, it had passed. Um, I think that the Republican party, if it wants to fend off this amazingly
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destructive wave, far left ideology has to compromise in the gun area. In what way? What do we do? What
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what do we do without violating? I think is doable. Which, um, that gives, um, individual Americans a
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little bit more power to, um, go and say, you know, Lenny over there is a shooting, uh, uh, dachshunds.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So that's fine. Except the president wants to have
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you, uh, guilty until proven innocent. You cannot take a gun away from somebody unless, I mean, we
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already have the red flag. If you think somebody is sick, you take, you go to a, you go to a hospital
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and say, you got to commit this person. Beck. Yes. Somebody on the streets of New York. All right.
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is running around naked, screaming obscenities. The authorities show up and take that person to
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Bellevue, where they're placed under observation for a period of time. If the doctors examining the
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person then feel the person is a threat, they go to a judge and the judge writes an order
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detaining the person. Okay. So you're making my point. Why do you need a red flag law? You have
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that. You can do that now. No, you don't have it because this is private behavior. The red flag
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law would be, would be spotlighting, not public behavior. So if I have imagined somebody who's
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had an ugly divorce, okay. Say I had an ugly divorce. Of course there's the potential for it to be abused.
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I mean, everybody knows that. Huge potential. Huge potential. But if you're a mother,
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and you have a 20 year old, big strapping guy in the basement with 15 ARs, and this kid,
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this 20 year old, and the mother knows is, is crazy. Then the mother now has a way to alert the
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authorities without the kid coming up and beating the hell out of the mother. You can do it under the
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cloak of anonymity. And the authorities are compelled then to come to the house and look at the kid or
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pick them up someplace else. So I'm just saying to you, I understand the downside of all of these
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laws, but I know the political climate in the country and Americans want something to be done,
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even if that something does not work. I think, you know what? I think you're, I think it's crazy,
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but completely right. People say this all the time. It's like, well, you know, you guys only care
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about the NRA and you can only care about the politics of this. The politics of the gun issue
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suck for Republicans, I think. I mean, the easiest thing in the world is to give up all,
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give ground on all this stuff. It's, you feel terrible defending it. You're in the middle of
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a tragedy trying to come up with these, you know, you know, factual points when no one wants to think
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about facts. They want to think about emotion. It's, it's, it's that moment. But I mean, that is
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why emotional issue and the Republican party and traditional Americans and gun owners have to
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look at the greater good here. But I'm not giving up my constitutional rights because of emotion,
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Bill. I feel like that's the problem. But you don't have a constitutional right to own a certain
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weapon. You have a right to shall not be infringed. It's pretty clear. Shall not be infringed.
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The government under the, under the public safety banner has the right to say you can't have a
00:27:32.280
bazooka. We all know that. So it's just, I'm not, by the way, I wouldn't ban ARs. I'm not for that.
00:27:41.120
What I am for is if you want to buy a heavy weapon or a weapon of war, as Beck puts it,
00:27:46.820
you have to go through a more stringent process so that you're trained, the people are confident that
00:27:55.980
you're not alone. Uh, the check shows that you don't have four felonies on your sheet,
00:28:00.780
you know, that kind of a thing. And I think that's reasonable. We already have that. The only thing
00:28:06.800
we don't have to hang on federal level, it's not a database. The FBI doesn't have a database of
00:28:14.320
people who own weapons of war. I don't want them to have one. I know you don't. And I don't want them.
00:28:20.660
I also don't want them in my psychiatrist office. If I take Prozac, am I now going to at some point
00:28:27.480
be, uh, deemed unstable? No, your medical records would, would be, would not be subject to scrutiny.
00:28:33.900
And when you buy a firearm, then how, then how, then how are you suggesting that we know that this
00:28:39.580
person is unstable or not? Because the red flag law would then put the person in some kind of
00:28:46.480
observational capacity, where there would be people that were talking to the person. It's not
00:28:51.900
going to work. It's not a foolproof thing. I'm just telling you that if the Republicans continue
00:28:57.680
to say nothing, we're not going to do anything. All right, they're going to lose the Senate.
00:29:02.140
They lose the Senate and they lose the House and Trump, Trump loses the election. Um, you know,
00:29:07.720
I'm going to be looking at Swiss, uh, properties because these people are relentless. Talk about losing
00:29:14.140
your freedom. Can you imagine if Elizabeth Warren is elected president? My God, we're not going to
00:29:20.740
have any freedom at all. That's what socialism is because you got to look at the big picture here
00:29:25.540
and the big picture is frightening. And that's why Trump is, is meeting with Manchin, the Senator
00:29:31.540
from West Virginia. Trump wants to have some kind of something so he doesn't get his butt kicked.
00:29:55.140
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00:30:04.520
Our thoughts and prayers go out to Kevin Hart, who was in a really bad car accident.
00:30:09.340
Uh, he's got a, you know, he has a souped up Barracuda, like 1970 or 68 Barracuda. And that
00:30:16.820
thing, uh, went off the road, I think flipped, took the roof right off, bloat, broke the glass.
00:30:23.860
Uh, the driver, uh, is, uh, in the hospital for back problems. Uh, the driver's wife is okay.
00:30:31.700
And Kevin Hart walked away from the scene. Um, but it was, it was weird. Here's the 9-1-1
00:30:38.460
audio of the eyewitness. Uh, let me just hear this, this here first.
00:30:43.140
Sounds like the passenger's stuck in the car. Uh, the driver's out of the car, but, uh, he looks
00:30:48.260
a little hurt. Uh, I think the top of the car is crushed.
00:30:53.680
I think it's just one lady now. Uh, the driver's out right now. They're trying to get the passenger out.
00:30:58.020
Okay. So there was only, there were only the two people in while this guy is describing
00:31:04.760
it because Kevin Hart lived down the street and he walked home. He left the scene and walked
00:31:10.580
home. Now this is the 9-1-1 call from Kevin Hart's wife after he is home for a while and
00:31:20.580
listen to how calm she is and, and what she's saying. It just, it just doesn't make sense.
00:31:26.360
Let's listen to this. He was in a car accident earlier tonight or what happened?
00:31:30.040
Yes, earlier tonight. I don't know what happened. He's not coherent at all.
00:31:36.620
Did he get treatment originally from when he was injured? Did he go to the hospital or?
00:31:40.400
No, no, no, no treatment at all. We, we're just here and he can't, he can't move.
00:31:46.460
Is there any, uh, obvious broken bones that you can tell? You see anything broken?
00:31:50.640
Just something on his back is pulling out on his spine.
00:31:56.360
Holy cow. Now why, why did he walk away? And you know, there's lots of reasons, uh, for this
00:32:05.760
and you know, some not good and, and some perfectly reasonable. I think, you know, he's maybe in shock
00:32:13.520
at first and he thinks he's okay and he walks home, but he isn't moving. He's not responding.
00:32:18.320
And there's something sticking out of his spine. Uh, wow.
00:32:26.620
Pretty, uh, relaxed handling of a moment like that.
00:32:32.680
Yeah. That's a very strange, very strange story.
00:32:36.240
Is he going to be okay? Do we know like what the album is?
00:32:41.320
Yeah. Um, but he's, he's going to live and he's going to work again and, and I'm glad
00:32:47.280
for all of that. Um, I like him. I think he seems like a nice, normal guy. You know, he's
00:32:53.020
a guy who kind of came up with a tough upbringing and busted his butt. I think he's from Philadelphia,
00:33:01.600
And, uh, you know, coming out of Philadelphia in some of those sections is not easy and
00:33:08.520
he's risen and he's from all accounts, a really nice guy. Uh, and except for his four tweets,
00:33:16.400
his jokes makes him a horrible person. Can you believe that people were coming after him
00:33:23.020
this week? He's in the hospital. Well, I, and they're coming after him again. It's unreal.
00:33:27.440
Did you see the Drew Brees thing? I know you're a huge, uh, you know exactly who Drew Brees
00:33:30.840
is obviously. Sure. Uh, baseball player. Yeah. He probably played baseball at some point
00:33:34.960
in his life. Uh, New Orleans Saints quarterback, of course, uh, did a spot for, uh, was it focus
00:33:39.160
on the family where he, he was just helping like a 20 second promo. Hey, it's bring your
00:33:43.920
Bible to, to school day. And of course, focus on the family. They're an anti-gay organization.
00:33:51.000
Why is Drew Brees promoting an anti-gay organization? And so all these people came out and then Drew
00:33:55.880
Brees is forced to come out and say, look, I don't, I'm not saying I agree with all their
00:33:59.740
views. And I don't, uh, I was just trying to help kids and this is a guy. Everybody should
00:34:04.800
say, everybody should say people, uh, you know, Ilan Omar and some of her cohorts in
00:34:10.580
Congress, they also support the Muslim Brotherhood and that's an anti-gay organization. So you
00:34:16.360
want to figure out that you go ahead and then come talk to me. Ilan's been tweeting about
00:34:20.180
you, by the way, we should probably get into that at some point today. Ilan Omar, anti-Glenbeck
00:34:24.940
tweets now. Yes. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:34:33.560
Dave Rubin's journey from a left leading progressive to a free thinking classical liberal
00:34:50.140
has been quite a journey and we've been watching it now for years. And Dave and I have become
00:34:56.640
friends and, uh, uh, I just hosted his, uh, podcast this week as he came back from a month
00:35:04.460
away from all media, all devices, all electronics, all news. Uh, and, uh, he's, he is totally refreshed
00:35:13.580
and has real perspective. We announced this week that, uh, Dave is joining the blaze TV lineup.
00:35:20.100
And what we're trying to do is, is make sure that we, uh, we have some shelter from the storm
00:35:26.600
and we are only going to be strong if each of us are strong as individuals. So nobody's carrying the
00:35:33.100
other, uh, and we're each strong as independent, uh, people and broadcasters or, or podcasters.
00:35:40.120
And then we also come together under an umbrella so we can fight together as well. So Dave is keeping
00:35:46.680
everything that he is before. If you're a subscriber of Dave's, uh, you still get everything
00:35:51.560
that you have ever had and nothing changes for you. But if you're a blaze subscriber blaze tv.com,
00:35:57.060
you, uh, uh, you will now get in the lineup, the Rubin report and you get it, uh, early just like
00:36:03.360
everybody else. Uh, and the whole archives will be moving over soon. So we have blaze tv.com slash
00:36:09.620
Dave, and you'll save $20 if you subscribe now and, uh, become a fan of the Rubin report on
00:36:16.280
blaze tv. Welcome Dave Rubin. How are you? Glenn, it's good to be with you. I officially
00:36:22.680
handed the hard drive over to your people to be taken to Texas and uploaded. So the deal
00:36:30.960
is on, you know, I tell you, Dave, it's so funny because we announced this, um, because
00:36:35.700
they've been working on the contract for a while and going back and forth and with you
00:36:39.300
in, you know, wherever you were Botswana, uh, it wasn't, it wasn't real easy to be able
00:36:44.840
to get, uh, you know, a contract done with you. Um, and, um, uh, so we did it on a handshake
00:36:50.680
before we announced it. And I like that. I like the, uh, I like the idea that two people
00:36:57.200
can come together and just look each other in the eye and just say, look, I know the
00:37:01.800
attorneys have a lot of work to do, but we're not going to screw you. You're not going to
00:37:05.380
screw us. Let's just be cool about this. And I love that. Yeah. Well, I love it too.
00:37:10.580
And quite literally, I mean, five seconds before we did that live stream on my channel,
00:37:15.720
we knew we were getting close, but you know, I wanted to announce it and we knew a lot of
00:37:19.340
eyeballs would be on us. And I just put my hand out and you put your hand out and I knew
00:37:24.180
we would be good. And, you know, within 24 hours, the lawyers took care of all the, all
00:37:28.260
the little legal stuff that, you know, you and I don't want to really think about, but
00:37:31.920
it's kind of funny. So I did do this, this 33 days off the grid. And the only thing that
00:37:36.940
I did was every now and again, I had to jump on the phone with my lawyer to talk to the
00:37:42.440
blaze lawyers. And I thought that's, that's really something you try to escape the grid
00:37:46.400
for 33 days. And the only communication you have with the outside world is with a lawyer.
00:37:50.420
I may have done something slightly wrong. Yeah, I think so. I think so. Dave, let me ask
00:37:55.760
you a question. I did Bridget Phetasy. I did Bridget Phetasy's podcast last week. I did
00:38:03.440
Stephen Kent. He just did Beltway Banthas, which is a great, I don't know if you've ever
00:38:08.800
heard it. I love the way he talks about politics. He puts it all in with Star Wars. And then
00:38:14.400
I did yours. And everybody always starts their podcast with, look, I know a lot of my listeners
00:38:22.640
are, you know, they might hate this guy, but I think you're going to be really surprised.
00:38:26.360
And I always am bashed by everybody. However, whenever I have you guys on anybody, even on
00:38:33.980
the left on my show, I rarely see people bashed. I rarely know, I have yet to see maybe five
00:38:44.460
in my career, people saying, if you have this person on, I'm no longer a subscriber of yours.
00:38:50.080
There's a difference between this audience. Why can't we all just start to look at each other
00:38:55.940
and go, hey, I don't agree with everything that Dave Rubin says or Glenn Beck says, but
00:39:03.500
Sure. Well, look, if I do anything for you in the course of this partnership, hopefully it'll be that
00:39:08.240
whatever remaining lefties are sane and willing to talk or the few liberals scattered throughout
00:39:14.800
the galaxy that are willing to do that, hopefully I'll get them to say, you know, you don't have to
00:39:20.400
give Glenn the intro where, you know, you say, oh, I don't agree with everything he says or the rest
00:39:25.660
of it because nobody agrees with everybody, you know, anyone else on, on literally anything.
00:39:30.820
And, you know, you can find clips where I thought something different, you know, two years ago
00:39:35.340
or four years ago. And, and, and evolving is, is really what it's all about. It's really great.
00:39:42.140
In fact, that's what I love about you. Your honesty, you were, I believe the first person that I found
00:39:50.000
that was willing to be really honest about the mistakes that you made in your life and were,
00:39:56.340
were honestly doing soul searching, not for, I mean, in fact, against, uh, any kind of business
00:40:04.680
rule and business sense, you were honest enough to say, look, uh, and I, correct me if I'm wrong,
00:40:12.100
but British, uh, uh, Bridget Phetasy says they were factory settings in her that were just set to
00:40:17.840
liberal. Were they factory settings with you that were set to liberal? Yeah. Well, I think,
00:40:23.680
I think those factory settings, meaning that when you grow up, if you grow up basically in the secular
00:40:29.500
world, which, which most of us in America mostly do, uh, that the factory settings, the, the ideas
00:40:35.720
that are going to be thought of as the okay ideas, the ideas that you can talk about without being
00:40:41.660
labeled a racist or a bigot or the rest of it, they basically are, are ideas of the left that,
00:40:46.680
you know, the government can kind of fix everything and we should take from some and give to the
00:40:50.580
others. And, you know, the litany of, of specific issues goes all the way down the line. And when I,
00:40:57.360
you know, as I was, I was a progressive, I was on the, um, church, which is a pretty far left network.
00:41:02.580
Um, I, I always had true liberal roots and I come from a truly liberal family in the best sense of
00:41:08.620
liberalism, like a JFK liberalism or Daniel Patrick Moynihan or Ed Koch liberalism, which, which,
00:41:14.400
you know, someone on the right might have some issues with, but usually find the conversation
00:41:18.500
with people like that. Okay. Now, ironically, the three men I just mentioned, all, all once great
00:41:23.540
politicians, they're all dead because there's very few of these liberals remaining. And you can see
00:41:28.220
that just with who the Democrats are putting up now. Um, but you know, when you, when you wake up out
00:41:34.220
of that and you start asking questions, it's not that the specific issues change so quickly as you
00:41:42.940
will be shocked where suddenly you will find friends and how, and more importantly, how quickly
00:41:48.440
the left will purge you out. So it's interesting what you said about your audience, when you bring
00:41:53.460
on a lefty, your audience is completely okay with it. But when you go on a, on a more lefty show that
00:41:58.760
they have to, you know, qualify it and quantify it and warn everybody. And I find the same thing,
00:42:03.780
which is actually hilarious. So when I bring on, uh, someone from the right, um, you know,
00:42:09.620
the lefties go completely insane. If I, you know, even when I had you on the other day,
00:42:13.420
I glanced through the comments quickly, which no one in their right mind should do. And a lot of
00:42:16.680
people are very upset that I had Glenn back on when I bring on someone from the left. So even just in
00:42:21.000
the last, you know, two months, I've had Marianne Williamson on, I've had Andrew Yang on, I've had
00:42:25.220
plenty of lefties on generally, I would say, I would say something like 90% of the comments from the
00:42:30.480
people on the right are basically like, you know, I disagree with these ideas or Marianne
00:42:35.340
Williamson's the little kooky, or I'm not down with UBI universal basic income with like Andrew
00:42:40.180
Yang, but it was nice to hear the conversation. And that right there, that right there, that
00:42:44.960
in essence is the divide that we have in America right now. And, and that's why I keep saying that
00:42:51.120
on the, on the say center, right, you know, anywhere from conservative to libertarian, there is such a
00:42:58.500
richness right now. And, and that's the place that I'm interested in exploring. That's why I wanted to
00:43:03.540
do this, this partnership with you. And that's why I'm so psyched for the next year, which is obviously
00:43:09.500
Yeah, it is. It is. Um, let me, uh, let me talk to you about Hollywood. I was only out there for a
00:43:15.860
couple of days, Dave, and I, I saw a difference in almost everybody that I met with. Um, and here's
00:43:24.460
the difference. People who would never, never have voted for a Republican ever, and certainly never for
00:43:33.800
Donald Trump from big funders of the democratic party, big supporters, people who are lifelong
00:43:40.980
Democrats. They have all said, if it is, if it is anyone besides Biden, I'm voting for Trump.
00:43:50.920
Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. I look, I live here in Los Angeles. It's quite a bubble. I'm, I'm happy to
00:43:56.660
say, uh, that you and I were able to go out in Beverly Hills and then nobody assaulted us. Uh, actually
00:44:03.380
we got a couple of smiles. That was nice. There is a shift. There is a shift and the shift has in a
00:44:09.460
weird way has less to do what's happening on the right and more to do with how hysterical the left
00:44:14.640
has become. And the idea that they, the idea that they've brought out Biden clearly, clearly does not
00:44:21.400
want to do this and may not have, uh, the mental capacity or energy to, to do this at, at his age.
00:44:28.040
And he sees fumbling and bumbling through a lot of stuff. And he didn't run when Obama, you know,
00:44:33.140
finished up his two terms. So that kind of makes you think he didn't really want to do this, but
00:44:36.920
they, they brought him out as the last message, the last effort to stop the democratic socialist
00:44:43.400
movement. And that is what's coming. And guess what? They're going to drop the word democratic
00:44:47.980
pretty quick. I mean, they're holding onto that right now, but if you watched any of this climate
00:44:52.360
change summit that they did, I mean, the things that they were saying, it was insane. I mean, Bernie
00:44:57.120
Sanders was basically saying that unless we fund abortions in other countries in South America,
00:45:03.780
uh, that, that, that's going to affect climate change. I mean, the policies are actually ridiculous
00:45:09.980
if you, if you listen to them, however, the factory settings of the way the media translates all of this
00:45:16.020
for you, the average person that, that the average person that's just out there that has a job and has a
00:45:20.680
family and can only devote so much time to this, they, they have trouble translating what all of that
00:45:25.780
means. And I think the job for people like us over the next year in a world that's getting more and
00:45:31.040
more fractured for your time, uh, it's going to be for us to be as efficient as possible in getting
00:45:36.440
the most important stuff across because otherwise the more, the more we get split, you know, the
00:45:41.740
harder it'll be to get truth out of anything. Right. And that is one reason why Dave, we have to stand
00:45:47.200
together with people who have like principles. If you believe in the bill of rights, you're good.
00:45:54.080
You're good. You're good. I'll stand with you. If you want to overturn the bill of rights, then we have
00:45:59.240
problems, but we, we all speak different languages. We all speak to a different audience. The, the, the Uber
00:46:06.980
left has broken us all apart and, and, and successfully made it so no one can talk to each other. And if we, who
00:46:15.020
are of like mind on the bill of rights can't come together, we're going to be, we're going to be
00:46:22.420
destroyed. We must stand together. So you, you can have a, you can have a movement where you can say,
00:46:30.460
no, look, I disagree with that person over there on this, this, and this, but they're making a very
00:46:36.000
important point. So we have a broader ground right now. The mass media has that broad ground, but we're
00:46:45.360
all separated from each other. We've got to link arms. Well, you said something really interesting
00:46:51.460
to me on the, on the live stream a couple of days ago, which you were, you were telling me which
00:46:55.360
democratic candidates had dropped out and keep staying and all that. And, uh, you mentioned
00:46:59.740
that Tulsi Gabbard is no longer, she hasn't dropped out, but they're not going to have her in the debates
00:47:03.500
now. And I think it's interesting, which was, which was that you disagree with her on almost all of her
00:47:08.280
policy prescriptions, but you believe that she loves the country. And, and that is where you want
00:47:14.480
to be in a pluralistic country where there's over 300 million people in this country. And I do, I do
00:47:19.640
not want all of the people to agree with me, even if I am right. I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure I'm
00:47:25.840
not, but, but even if I was, I would not want that because we need a healthy tension in, in a political
00:47:31.620
debate to always keep us on check. And that's why it's so disappointing that, that Tulsi, it looks like
00:47:36.700
she'll, she'll eventually have to drop because once they give you the signal that you're not in
00:47:40.000
the debate, you know, you're, you're pretty much toast, but, but we need more, more voices like
00:47:45.060
that. And that's, again, that's why I wanted to do this deal with the blaze because, you know,
00:47:49.000
we haven't even discussed big tech, but there's so many forces, right. Uh, circling the wagons around
00:47:53.800
us. And I knew that that partnering with you and the blaze and what you guys have built and that's
00:47:59.200
still my ability to remain independent. As I said, on the live stream, you're, you're not my boss. I might be
00:48:04.500
your boss. We're still looking into that one. Um, it was a rather fast contract. That was why I
00:48:10.720
shook your hand so quick. It was pretty clever. Dave, hang on just a second. Hang on. I have to
00:48:16.180
take it. I have to take a break. Hang on just a second. Cause I want to continue our conversation
00:48:19.580
because Dave said something to me during the podcast that I did on his show that I thought
00:48:24.140
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