Jussie Smollett has been on trial for the murder of his former high school crush, Lauryn Hill. The case has gripped the nation since day one, and no amount of evidence has been enough to get him off the hook. On this episode of the Glenn Beck Show, host Glenn Beck is joined by special guest Abby Johnson, a Planned Parenthood worker, to solve the case. Also, Bill O'Reilly joins the show to talk about the new movie, Unplanned, and a very personal message from the Governor of Utah, Gary Herbert.
00:02:00.040Stu, explain your experiment that you guys did, that you guys did last night.
00:02:06.660Well, as you know, Glenn, this is this case has gripped the nation and Jussie Smollett has come out and said he was innocent since day one and he's told the truth since day one.
00:02:18.820And most people truly want to believe the best in others.
00:02:24.900And we want to believe Jussie and his incredible story of how white people who were MAGA voters in Chicago, which is an incredibly large population of people, came after him and committed a hate crime on him.
00:02:42.280But the problem is, it's hard to get past the fact that two people he knew very closely and had given large amounts of money to happened to be on camera at a hardware store buying every single thing they needed to commit a fake hate crime on Jussie Smollett.
00:03:54.580So I thought last night, what if we went to the hardware store and bought all the same things that these Nigerian brothers purchased, and then we could recreate our theory of what the crime is to get Jussie off the hook.
00:04:15.540What they did is they wanted to, in a similar fashion that you did with this wonderful or controversial painting that you found at a yard sale.
00:04:31.420So you just picked up any painting, and you brought it home, and you looked at it, and you realized it was a very controversial Adolf Hitler Planned Parenthood painting.
00:04:42.040And so my thought was maybe what they wanted to do is purchase not a red hat, but a white hat, so that they could design, because they're fashion designers.
00:05:32.220However, the problem occurred when we tried to bleach the hats that we purchased last night for 12 hours in bleach, and what happened was they somehow got darker, darker red.
00:18:43.820Um, but the two plus, those are the elderly people that watch, uh, cable news and, um, kids, uh, three and four years old who are just sitting there playing and it's people trapped in the airport.
00:19:20.620Um, and this is in two or three days, all right, it's not a gradual, and then all of the other programs have collapsed on that, on a program as well.
00:19:31.600So, um, there you have an industry now, uh, the hate Trump television industry that doesn't know what to do and is panicking.
00:19:40.800Now, you would think that maybe they would show a little contrition.
00:19:44.400So, look, you know, we, we really thought that this was, uh, a serious situation the nation should know about, but it turned out that it wasn't what we described it to be, but our mistake was not made, uh, out of malice.
00:20:19.960I said, if I'm wrong about this guy, and I hope I'm wrong, if he's doing those things, I'll be the first to say he did those things and I was wrong.
00:20:30.140I've been right on a lot of stuff that really concerned me, and I've been wrong on some stuff.
00:20:35.300And so I call the balls and the strikes.
00:20:37.240But the people who have either been never-Trumpers and who will not budge from that and recognize, I mean, you still may not vote for Donald Trump, but you have to recognize, wow, some of the things he's done really good.
00:20:51.080Some of the things like last night, I'm not really, I'm not thrilled with that.
00:21:06.280And if he would have come out and it would have proven him to be in bed with Vladimir Putin, then you would have had the same thing, I think, with a lot of people on the other side.
00:21:16.660They would have said, this is just a deep state.
00:26:14.340Bill, so now you say the Democratic Party is important.
00:26:19.100What they do, this is important for America.
00:26:21.560Right, because you don't want democracy not to have legitimate choices.
00:26:31.160I mean, you want to have vibrant debate.
00:26:33.480You want to have a situation where you get challenges to power.
00:26:42.640I mean, I want President Trump to be challenged, and I want it to be intelligent, because that's where you find the better solutions, when everybody has to think and has to come up with a better idea.
00:32:16.380I like the fact that they were talking during Kavanaugh that they had to have the FBI because the FBI can do things that Congress can't do.
00:32:24.740And then this week they were saying, well, it's a good thing it's out of the hands of the FBI because we as Congress can do things in investigations that the FBI can't do.
00:32:34.800Look, they're not going to do anything there.
00:33:53.680Every time the socialists rear their ugly heads in America, they do the same thing.
00:33:59.440They start to become arrogant and they just think everybody's with them and they scare the hell out of Americans and Americans go running the opposite direction.
00:34:08.800It it happened in the, you know, 10s and 20s.
00:34:29.680I think they've overplayed their hands so much on so many places that, for instance, with the Donald Trump thing,
00:34:36.420they now see the they have completely destroyed their credibility.
00:34:41.220And even the people who are Democrats, I've heard Democrats, you know, Democratic neighbors, not people on TV, Democratic neighbors say, I mean, enough.
00:35:15.820They want people to be given a chance.
00:35:17.960But the the socialists now and the Democrats have so overplayed their hand that I think this week we saw the snowball that they were they were packing and they were just trying to push it up to the top because then it would roll down the other side and crush the city.
00:35:35.280I think it's stopped and they keep packing it bigger and bigger.
00:37:01.320All the Republicans and four Democrats voted against it.
00:37:04.440And the rest of the Democrats voted present as Barack Obama used to do when he was in the Senate, which means I don't want any part of this.
00:37:13.360So I hope, by the way, I hope Mitch McConnell, because what what AOC said was, you know, I told them we should all just vote present.
00:37:24.020Everybody should just vote present in the Senate.
00:41:54.580Another excellent question by Glenn Beck, everyone.
00:41:56.800Big round of applause all over the country.
00:41:59.680Look, his calculation is you may not like me, but they're so bad and they're so much worse than I am that you can't possibly give them more power.
00:42:15.160Well, I will tell you this, I will tell you this, and this is one of the things that, because I saw that Captain America is now coming out and saying,
00:42:24.260I've got to speak out against, you know, these Trump people.
00:42:27.360How could you possibly vote for Trump?
00:42:29.120How could you possibly vote for anyone who will not stand against infanticide?
00:42:34.900How can you vote for anybody who will not stand up for the free market system?
00:42:42.340You know, they've gone so far beyond anything I recognize as Western civilization now that there is no, there is absolutely no choice.
00:42:53.640If the election were held today, there is no choice.
00:42:59.560However, if he would try just to knit together just a little bit by by by softening this rhetoric just a little bit, it would be easier to seal the deal.
00:43:15.160Well, yeah, I mean, stepping back, of course, if I were in the White House advising him, I would go over the speeches and then take out the stuff that's extreme.
00:45:29.020And I know they would just tip their hat and say, hey, not a problem.
00:45:33.860But I think even Texas is struggling now and will struggle because I think we're about to lose it because of the influx of Californians.
00:45:43.600And it's really kind of losing its understanding of what has made Texas so different.
00:45:51.240One of the states that was in the running, but I didn't think I could get anybody to move there because they were all moving from New York City, was Utah.
00:46:00.160And had I had to do it all over again, I think I would do Utah because Utah is not the state that it used to be.
00:46:08.460It's not some, you know, far out west kind of pioneer state.
00:46:13.820It is now a high-tech hub and its economy is booming.
00:46:28.640And I talked to you earlier this week and I wanted to get you on the air for the one reason that you are signing in a couple of bills that the legislature has passed on abortion.
00:46:42.100And I think that there is a movement happening in the country for the first time people are willing to look at this because those who have been saying, you know, rare and legal and safe don't mean those things anymore.
00:48:06.140And I hear what you say about this abortion issue, which has been kind of divided our country since Roe v. Wade in 1973.
00:48:16.560I do echo what Ruth Bader Ginsburg said, that this should have been decided legislatively and not by nine people in black robes.
00:48:26.140I think the country would have been much better off if we didn't have activism from the court and let state by state by state as sovereign states, in fact, determine these issues legislatively.
00:48:37.940And clearly, what has come out of this is clearly a loss of, I guess, elevating people's lives and humanity.
00:48:49.760And we just have a different form of birth control now called abortion.
00:48:53.420That's not what it was designed to do and to be.
00:48:56.100And what the promise was before, as you said, I think safe, legal and rare is anything but rare.
00:49:03.640And that's unfortunate, I think, for us as human beings.
00:49:06.340So the legislature in Utah just passed a couple of a couple of bills.
00:49:10.200One, thank you as a father of a child of special needs.
00:49:16.400Thank you for taking a stand on the most humbling among us, those with Down syndrome.
00:49:25.280You guys pass this and you're about to sign this in.
00:49:29.080Yeah, so we've said that if you choose to have an abortion simply because you have a Down syndrome child, that that's not appropriate.
00:49:39.720Just as we would want to not discriminate against individuals with Down syndrome in our society, we shouldn't, in fact, discriminate against them in utero.
00:49:48.940And so we've passed a law, which I have signed now, which says that that's not a reason to have an abortion, to say, well, my child will have Down syndrome.
00:49:59.960The other one is we've signed into law is that we've moved it to 18 weeks as far as the timeline.
00:50:06.200So you cannot have an abortion in Utah under this law after 18 weeks.
00:50:12.920There are typical exceptions that we have in the law, a woman's life at risk, if you have a rape or incest.
00:50:21.380There's some other exceptions to therefore brain damage of the fetus, et cetera.
00:50:27.360But we've moved it to 18 weeks with a belief that we are, in fact, stating to the world we believe in the sanctity of life and we need to be pro-life.
00:50:37.860And I'm unabashedly and unapologetically pro-life.
00:50:41.620And I think that most of America feels that same way.
00:50:45.480So, Governor, let me ask you this, because it's moving the opposite direction.
00:50:48.560Technology is you're going to be able to live outside the mother's body, you know, at four weeks eventually, probably.
00:50:58.460So it's moving in the other direction that it's viable.
00:51:03.040I think it's Georgia that just passed the heartbeat.
00:51:06.340I mean, when we stop, when somebody stops at an accident, the first thing they do is, is anybody alive?
00:52:00.180Now, what would we want to do to interfere with that progress in the womb, particularly, until it's ready to be born?
00:52:08.940Why would we want to interfere with that?
00:52:10.360It ought to pick our consciences to say what we're doing here is probably not what we would do as humanity, whether it's a religious belief or just the values that we have as human beings and association one with another.
00:52:23.760But the heartbeat issue, I think, is one that's always bothered me, in my view of being pro-life, is when that heartbeat is detected, that certainly is a sign of life.
00:52:33.940We're talking to Governor Gary Herbert, the governor of Utah, who has – I reached out to him earlier this week and really wanted to know if anybody in his office could even attend this screening.
00:52:49.640And he immediately said, I'll be there.
00:53:26.640But I'm telling you, if your teenagers go – they made it rated R for a reason, to stop teenagers from being allowed into it.
00:53:33.840Because if your teenager sees it, they will forever be – anybody who sees this, your conviction of this is murder will happen when you see this movie.
00:53:45.860Well, again, it should give us pause, and it should give us opportunity to think through what we've done, maybe reverse our – what we have as policy in this country.
00:53:58.720And you mentioned science, Glenn, and I do believe that's an important aspect of what's happening now.
00:54:06.580If we have a child born premature, science is able to save their life in a much earlier time.
00:54:14.780More premature preemies, you know, are being saved now because of science and advancement in science that we have ever before in our history.
00:54:22.060Well, if we can do that to save a child that's born premature, again, why would we not, in fact, want to save a child that comes out for whatever reason?
00:54:31.340And I guess some of the horror stories we're hearing as we let this premature infant sit there and gasp and just die because we won't assist it.
00:54:43.600And that's the part I find just really hard to understand.
00:54:46.980Why would you not assist anybody who's gasping for life, trying to breathe and trying to be viable,
00:54:54.520and yet we have somebody that would say, no, we'll just – if it can't survive on its own, it will die.
00:54:59.880It would be like you being underwater and having an aqua system, you know, and somebody pulls a plug on you,
00:55:08.580and you gasp there and say, well, if you can't do it on your own, we'll just let you die.
00:55:13.700And I think science is certainly teaching us that there's opportunities for them to survive outside the womb with science and scientific help,