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00:02:50.200 Stu.

00:02:51.660 This from the Washington Post.

00:02:53.200 A story that has one unidentified source.

00:02:57.940 Oh, an entire unidentified source?

00:03:00.700 Yes.

00:03:00.980 Wow.

00:03:01.420 One nameless source.

00:03:02.920 But they feel pretty good about it.

00:03:04.320 Okay, good.

00:03:04.680 Now, they don't feel good about Seymour Hersh and his one identified source.

00:03:09.720 That's immoral.

00:03:11.100 It's wrong against all journalistic standards.

00:03:15.440 Except this time with the Washington Post.

00:03:17.520 The man behind the massive leak of the U.S. government secrets that has exposed spying on allies

00:03:23.340 revealed the grim prospects for Ukraine's war with Russia and ignited diplomatic fires

00:03:29.760 for the White House is a young, charismatic gun enthusiast

00:03:36.360 who shared highly classified documents with a group of far-flung acquaintances

00:03:42.260 searching for companionship amidst the isolation of the pandemic.

00:03:49.560 What year is this story from?

00:03:51.740 What do you mean the isolation of the pandemic?

00:03:53.820 Well, when they got together.

00:03:54.820 That's when they all got together in this group.

00:03:56.680 Okay, that's when they met.

00:03:57.400 Okay, so they did meet several years ago.

00:03:59.660 Now, they were united, according to the Washington Post.

00:04:02.940 They were united by their mutual love of guns, military gear, and God.

00:04:09.160 A group of roughly two dozen, mostly men and boys, formed an invitation-only clubhouse in 2020

00:04:16.440 on Discord, an online platform popular with gamers.

00:04:21.100 But they paid little attention last year when the man, some called OG, posted a message

00:04:28.160 laden with strange acronyms and jargon.

00:04:31.960 The words seemed unfamiliar to the group, and a few people read the long note.

00:04:37.480 One member explained,

00:04:38.900 The young member read OG's message closely, and the hundreds more that he said followed on a regular basis for months.

00:05:00.460 They were, he recalled, what appeared to be near-verbatim transcripts of classified intelligence documents

00:05:07.780 that OG indicated he had brought home from his job on a, quote, military base, which the member declined to identify.

00:05:16.820 OG claimed he spent at least some of his day inside a secure facility that prohibited cell phones and other electronic devices.

00:05:25.740 I mean, it could have been a movie theater.

00:05:28.360 I don't know.

00:05:29.500 It could, this room could be used to document the secret information housed on government computer networks,

00:05:38.160 or spooling out from printers.

00:05:41.560 He annotated some of the hand-typed documents.

00:05:44.300 Spooling?

00:05:44.700 What are they, a dot matrix printer?

00:05:46.780 Spooling?

00:05:47.100 Yeah.

00:05:49.200 It's the government.

00:05:52.360 Yes, you're right.

00:05:53.640 They probably got a printer in 1987, and they're still using it.

00:05:57.660 And what military base has this, I mean, this stuff is highly, highly classified.

00:06:04.040 You're not going into a military base and like,

00:06:06.660 I'm just going to log on to the secret parts of the military.

00:06:10.020 Right.

00:06:11.460 Okay.

00:06:12.020 The member said he was translating arcane intel speak for the uninitiated,

00:06:17.160 such as explaining that no foreign meant information in the documents so sensitive it must not be shared with foreign nationals.

00:06:28.060 The members swapped memes, offensive jokes, and idle chit-chat.

00:06:33.100 They watched movies together, joked around, and prayed.

00:06:36.300 But OG also lectured them about world affairs and secretive government operations.

00:06:42.780 He wanted to keep us in the loop, the member said.

00:06:45.820 And he then seemed to think that his insider knowledge would offer the others protection from the troubled world around them.

00:06:53.500 He's a smart person.

00:06:55.120 He knew what he was doing when he posted these documents, of course.

00:06:58.640 They weren't accidental leaks of any kind, said the member.

00:07:01.340 The transcribed documents OG posted traversed a range of sensitive subjects

00:07:06.620 that only people who had undergone months-long background checks would be authorized to see.

00:07:12.720 There were top-secret reports about the whereabouts and movements of high-ranking political leaders,

00:07:17.960 tactical updates on military forces,

00:07:20.800 the geopolitical analysis, insights to foreign government efforts to interfere with elections.

00:07:26.700 If you could think it, it was in those documents.

00:07:30.320 In those initial posts, OG had given his fellow members a small sip of the torrent of secrets that was to come.

00:07:39.880 When rendering hundreds of classified files by hand proved too tiresome,

00:07:45.240 he began posting hundreds of photos of documents themselves,

00:07:49.080 an astonishing cache of secrets that had been steadily spilling into public view over the past week,

00:07:57.140 disrupting U.S. foreign policy and aggravating America's allies.

00:08:01.920 Now, this account of how detailed intelligent documents intended for an exclusive circle of military leaders

00:08:09.700 and government decision-makers found their way into and out of OG's closed community

00:08:16.260 is based in part on several lengthy interviews with the Discord group member

00:08:22.200 who spoke to the Washington Post on the condition of anonymity.

00:08:26.760 He is under 18.

00:08:29.200 He is a teenager.

00:08:31.760 The Post obtained consent from his mom

00:08:35.120 to speak to him

00:08:37.020 and record his remarks on video.

00:08:40.040 He asked that his voice not be obscured.

00:08:43.760 Wow.

00:08:44.400 So, we've got a teenager

00:08:45.920 who is the unidentified source,

00:08:49.960 but they did talk to his mom.

00:08:53.660 Dozens of highly classified documents have been leaked online

00:08:56.520 revealing sensitive material, blah, blah, blah.

00:08:58.740 The Post also reviewed scores of additional secret documents,

00:09:01.740 most of which have not been made public.

00:09:04.020 So, this is the Post reported revealed that a man in his early mid-twenties

00:09:09.780 allegedly shared them with members of an invitation-only Discord group.

00:09:15.420 He said, let's see,

00:09:17.620 the documents revealed profound concerns about the war's trajectory

00:09:22.720 and Kiev's capacity to wage a successful offensive against Russian forces.

00:09:29.700 According to the Defense Intelligence Agency assessment among the leaked documents,

00:09:34.480 negotiations to end the conflict are unlikely during 2023.

00:09:40.240 The files include summaries of human intelligence

00:09:43.040 on high-level conversations between world leaders.

00:09:46.440 How could somebody on a military base just get into this?

00:09:49.940 I mean, if this is all true,

00:09:51.740 and it sounds pretty true,

00:09:55.120 at least it sounds like the beginning of the truth,

00:09:58.040 how did this guy get this?

00:10:01.280 If he's working on a military base,

00:10:04.060 how did he get access to all of these things?

00:10:07.880 That seems to be a problem.

00:10:11.080 The files include summaries of human intelligence.

00:10:14.080 It includes intelligence on both allies and adversaries,

00:10:17.700 including Iran and North Korea,

00:10:19.680 as well as Britain, Canada, South Korea, and Israel.

00:10:25.580 Okay.

00:10:26.060 He released detailed charts of battlefield conditions in Ukraine,

00:10:32.480 highly classified satellite images of the aftermath of Russian missile strikes.

00:10:38.240 Others sketched the potential trajectory of North Korean ballistic nuclear missiles

00:10:42.880 that could reach the United States.

00:10:45.020 Another featured photographs of the Chinese spy balloon

00:10:47.940 that floated across the country in February,

00:10:50.720 snapped from eye level,

00:10:52.500 probably by a U-2 spy plane,

00:10:54.680 along with a diagram of the balloon

00:10:57.180 and the surveillance technology attached to it.

00:11:00.780 So this guy,

00:11:02.080 I have to tell you,

00:11:03.020 I don't know what his motivation was.

00:11:05.960 The kid says that he had access to these classified documents.

00:11:13.840 He was telling the group that he was preparing them for the world that they're living in

00:11:19.480 because the government is lying to them.

00:11:22.600 Now,

00:11:23.340 I don't know if he was grooming these kids.

00:11:26.040 I mean,

00:11:28.460 at this point,

00:11:30.260 with what we know,

00:11:31.960 don't write off that it was a FBI agent

00:11:35.480 who is acting

00:11:37.400 as a military official

00:11:39.880 who had access

00:11:40.760 that was dumping these online

00:11:42.600 to get this group of kids

00:11:44.860 who loved God

00:11:45.660 and guns in their country

00:11:47.000 to react.

00:11:48.120 Now,

00:11:49.540 this kid seems

00:11:50.760 really level-headed.

00:11:53.980 He said,

00:11:54.480 he's not a Russian operative.

00:11:55.960 He's not a Ukrainian operative.

00:11:57.980 The room on the server

00:11:59.000 where he posted the documents

00:12:00.140 was called Bear vs. Pig,

00:12:02.500 meant to be a snide jab

00:12:03.900 at Russia and Ukraine,

00:12:05.860 and an indication that OG

00:12:07.060 took no sides

00:12:08.280 in the conflict.

00:12:09.920 OG had a dark view

00:12:11.240 of the government,

00:12:12.140 the young member said,

00:12:13.060 as he spoke of the United States,

00:12:14.980 and particularly law enforcement

00:12:16.740 and the intelligence community

00:12:18.420 as a, quote,

00:12:20.200 sinister force

00:12:21.140 that sought to suppress its citizens

00:12:23.120 and keep them in the dark.

00:12:24.740 He ranted about government overreach.

00:12:28.020 Now,

00:12:28.580 when I hear that,

00:12:29.940 I don't think this guy was doing

00:12:32.420 what he did was heroic.

00:12:34.180 I don't think,

00:12:35.160 I mean,

00:12:35.380 the kid says he wasn't a whistleblower,

00:12:37.860 but I do agree

00:12:40.120 that our government

00:12:41.080 is out of control.

00:12:43.460 The problem is law enforcement

00:12:45.000 and the intelligence community

00:12:46.660 they are suppressing information

00:12:49.700 and they are suppressing people.

00:12:53.060 OG told his online companions

00:12:55.140 that government hid horrible truths

00:12:57.400 from the public.

00:12:58.500 I believe that to be true.

00:12:59.980 He claimed,

00:13:00.660 according to the members,

00:13:01.660 that the government knew in advance

00:13:03.840 the white supremacists

00:13:05.180 intended to go on a shooting rampage

00:13:07.500 at a Buffalo supermarket

00:13:08.740 in May 22.

00:13:10.500 The attack left 10 dead,

00:13:12.260 all of them black,

00:13:13.340 and wounded three more.

00:13:15.240 OG said federal law,

00:13:16.440 law enforcement officials,

00:13:17.700 let the killings proceed

00:13:18.980 so they could argue

00:13:20.020 for increased funding,

00:13:21.700 a baseless notion

00:13:23.000 that the member said

00:13:24.440 he believes

00:13:25.280 and considers an example

00:13:26.860 of his penetrating insights

00:13:28.800 about the depth

00:13:29.800 of government corruption.

00:13:31.020 was there any documentation

00:13:35.740 on that?

00:13:36.520 Right.

00:13:36.700 Or is this what,

00:13:37.460 I mean,

00:13:37.760 what was that?

00:13:38.620 You know,

00:13:38.900 we started this making fun of them

00:13:40.320 for having one unnamed source.

00:13:41.900 It's hard to know

00:13:42.460 how much of this is real.

00:13:43.920 Yeah, I know.

00:13:44.600 Yeah.

00:13:44.820 And what the motivations are

00:13:46.660 aren't on anybody.

00:13:48.920 Discord servers

00:13:49.860 eventually named

00:13:51.580 Thugshaker Central

00:13:53.480 signaled to members

00:13:56.780 that they were free

00:13:57.640 to hurl epithets

00:13:58.760 and crude jokes.

00:14:00.720 The young member

00:14:01.480 expressed some regret

00:14:02.500 for their behavior

00:14:03.300 but seemed to shrug off

00:14:04.400 the offensive remarks

00:14:05.300 as a clumsy attempt

00:14:06.300 at humor.

00:14:07.080 That's much more serious

00:14:08.380 than these leaked documents.

00:14:09.320 I know.

00:14:09.820 How can we cancel

00:14:10.760 these people

00:14:11.260 for the bad jokes

00:14:12.380 they probably made online?

00:14:14.000 He told the Washington Post

00:14:15.180 this wasn't a fascist

00:14:16.580 recruiting server.

00:14:18.740 Think of that,

00:14:19.420 a kid,

00:14:20.280 teenager,

00:14:20.680 is saying that

00:14:21.720 to the Washington Post.

00:14:22.860 Right.

00:14:23.500 Okay.

00:14:23.980 Again,

00:14:24.560 like,

00:14:25.340 they want so badly

00:14:27.020 to frame this

00:14:27.800 in a certain way

00:14:28.700 that they're like,

00:14:29.360 well,

00:14:29.780 we've got a 12-year-old

00:14:31.100 or,

00:14:31.420 sorry,

00:14:31.700 13,

00:14:32.160 he's a teenager.

00:14:32.940 A 13-year-old.

00:14:33.780 Could be 18.

00:14:34.440 Could be 18.

00:14:35.540 Could be 19 even.

00:14:37.320 And he's going to

00:14:37.760 Well, he called his mom.

00:14:38.500 Oh, okay.

00:14:39.120 He's going to explain to us

00:14:40.720 what is or is not

00:14:41.820 a fascist recruiting operation?

00:14:43.960 Like,

00:14:44.600 I mean,

00:14:46.020 is this journalism?

00:14:47.400 So listen to this.

00:14:48.260 The member said

00:14:49.420 he is confident

00:14:50.940 the authorities

00:14:51.600 will find OG.

00:14:53.020 He recently talked to OG

00:14:54.680 and he said

00:14:56.300 he knew what he had done.

00:14:58.080 He said,

00:14:58.680 I didn't mean to put anybody

00:14:59.900 in harm's way

00:15:00.940 and he sobbed

00:15:02.480 on the phone.

00:15:03.860 He then said

00:15:04.720 he's confident

00:15:05.400 the authorities

00:15:05.940 will find him

00:15:06.740 but when they do,

00:15:08.060 he won't be charged.

00:15:09.800 Instead,

00:15:10.560 he believes,

00:15:11.620 OG will be imprisoned

00:15:12.880 without due process

00:15:14.540 at Guantanamo Bay

00:15:15.820 or disappeared

00:15:17.000 to a black site

00:15:18.080 if he's not assassinated

00:15:19.340 for what he knows.

00:15:20.600 He says

00:15:21.160 he will not divulge

00:15:22.140 OG's identity

00:15:23.320 or location

00:15:24.100 to law enforcement

00:15:25.240 until he's captured

00:15:26.420 or can flee

00:15:27.400 the United States.

00:15:28.760 I think

00:15:29.140 I might be detained

00:15:30.880 eventually.

00:15:31.720 I think there might be

00:15:32.480 a short investigation

00:15:33.460 on how I knew this guy

00:15:34.900 and they'll try

00:15:35.760 to get something out of me.

00:15:36.980 They'll try to threaten me

00:15:37.980 with prison time

00:15:38.700 if I don't reveal

00:15:39.540 his identity.

00:15:40.760 To date,

00:15:41.180 no federal law enforcement

00:15:42.240 official has contacted

00:15:43.580 the young group member.

00:15:44.600 What?

00:15:48.360 Asked why he was prepared

00:15:49.500 to help OG

00:15:50.180 even at the risk

00:15:50.880 of his own freedom.

00:15:51.680 The young man replied,

00:15:53.000 he was my best friend.

00:15:54.620 Help?

00:15:55.160 He went to the Washington Post

00:15:56.480 and is telling them

00:15:57.100 all these details about him.

00:15:58.820 That's not help.

00:15:59.820 I don't know.

00:16:00.960 And why hasn't the FBI

00:16:02.320 contacted him?

00:16:03.660 I don't know what to think

00:16:04.820 about this story.

00:16:05.460 I can go anywhere honestly

00:16:06.660 here from this kid

00:16:07.680 is playing a prank

00:16:08.560 on the Washington Post

00:16:09.940 all the way to

00:16:11.040 everything he's saying

00:16:11.900 is true

00:16:12.480 to it's an FBI,

00:16:14.780 CIA plan.

00:16:15.800 Right.

00:16:16.300 I mean,

00:16:16.760 you could go anywhere.

00:16:17.920 That's how little credibility

00:16:19.800 the Washington Post has,

00:16:21.820 the federal government has,

00:16:23.620 and people have.

00:16:25.540 Nobody has any credibility left.

00:16:28.780 It's crazy.

00:16:32.720 This is the best

00:16:33.700 of the Glenn Beck program

00:16:34.620 and we really want to

00:16:35.720 thank you for listening.

00:16:40.540 Bill, how are you, sir?

00:16:42.480 I shouldn't even ask yet

00:16:44.000 because I know

00:16:44.440 what you're going to say.

00:16:45.860 No, you don't know

00:16:46.660 what I'm going to say.

00:16:47.400 I'm full of good ideas today.

00:16:49.600 I appreciate being on

00:16:50.500 the Glenn Beck show,

00:16:52.200 the fusion of entertainment

00:16:53.640 and enlightenment.

00:16:54.600 Yeah, well,

00:16:55.280 that's what we are.

00:16:56.300 And then also

00:16:57.140 sometimes Bill O'Reilly.

00:16:59.860 And that's both.

00:17:01.260 Right.

00:17:02.020 So, Bill,

00:17:03.120 let's talk about

00:17:04.340 what's going on

00:17:05.480 beginning,

00:17:07.240 are they expecting

00:17:08.020 the trial to start

00:17:08.780 next week?

00:17:09.340 We should have

00:17:10.180 the jury picked,

00:17:11.540 right,

00:17:11.960 by the end of this week?

00:17:13.140 Yeah.

00:17:13.720 Well, look,

00:17:15.760 anything can happen

00:17:16.700 in these things,

00:17:17.340 as you know.

00:17:18.160 I mean,

00:17:18.400 litigation is chaotic,

00:17:20.240 but the judge in this case

00:17:21.580 wants to move it along.

00:17:23.480 And the jury

00:17:24.660 is the jury in Delaware.

00:17:27.220 You know,

00:17:27.600 both sides,

00:17:28.800 both lawyers

00:17:29.420 on each side,

00:17:30.180 they get to pick

00:17:30.860 people that they feel

00:17:32.560 don't know anything.

00:17:34.060 And that's the truth.

00:17:35.840 They don't want

00:17:36.620 smart people

00:17:37.540 on the jury

00:17:38.160 who watch Fox News

00:17:40.020 or may understand

00:17:41.000 the core problem here.

00:17:42.620 They want people

00:17:43.480 who have no idea.

00:17:45.340 So they're not biased.

00:17:47.240 So,

00:17:47.460 it's in Delaware.

00:17:50.340 Why is it in Delaware?

00:17:51.580 Is Fox a Delaware corporation?

00:17:53.620 Because the

00:17:54.000 Dominion people

00:17:56.160 are registered there.

00:17:57.740 Okay.

00:17:58.260 Many corporations

00:18:00.100 are registered in Delaware

00:18:01.580 because they have

00:18:02.040 very low corporate taxes.

00:18:03.680 Correct.

00:18:04.020 All right.

00:18:05.400 Dominion,

00:18:05.960 the voting machine,

00:18:07.420 just for you,

00:18:08.060 and I'm sure

00:18:08.620 most of your listeners

00:18:09.700 know this,

00:18:10.720 they say that their company

00:18:12.380 got severely damaged

00:18:14.380 because Fox News

00:18:16.060 and Newsmax

00:18:17.580 and One America,

00:18:18.900 and there are lawsuits

00:18:20.160 against those two as well,

00:18:23.380 lied about

00:18:25.360 what the voting machines

00:18:28.200 did in the 2020 election.

00:18:31.140 and that is true.

00:18:35.200 So,

00:18:35.960 the voting machines

00:18:37.440 in Dominion,

00:18:38.240 there hasn't been

00:18:38.820 one shred of evidence

00:18:39.880 produced

00:18:40.520 that says those machines

00:18:42.620 threw votes

00:18:43.540 to Joe Biden.

00:18:44.800 Right.

00:18:44.920 And the Trump people,

00:18:46.320 Rudy Giuliani

00:18:47.500 and Sidney Powell,

00:18:48.400 they were running around

00:18:49.120 saying this,

00:18:49.700 and Fox News

00:18:50.260 gave them a forum,

00:18:51.720 in many cases,

00:18:52.820 unchallenged.

00:18:54.460 So,

00:18:54.920 that is the heart

00:18:55.780 of the lawsuit.

00:18:56.320 Now,

00:18:57.340 there's only one

00:18:58.580 thing involved here,

00:19:00.600 and this is what

00:19:01.300 makes it fascinating.

00:19:03.320 A reckless disregard

00:19:04.900 for the truth.

00:19:06.240 That's what the

00:19:07.080 Dominion lawyers

00:19:08.500 have to prove

00:19:09.260 to the jury

00:19:10.140 that doesn't know anything.

00:19:12.940 A reckless disregard

00:19:14.740 for the truth.

00:19:16.340 That means

00:19:17.060 that

00:19:18.100 when these guests

00:19:19.620 appeared on Fox News,

00:19:21.900 the interviewers

00:19:23.100 and the hierarchy

00:19:24.600 of Fox,

00:19:25.520 Rupert Murdoch

00:19:26.260 on down,

00:19:27.600 all knew

00:19:28.360 this was bogus.

00:19:29.500 There was

00:19:30.020 no solid evidence

00:19:32.020 against Dominion.

00:19:33.580 Okay?

00:19:34.040 That would be

00:19:34.980 a reckless disregard

00:19:36.220 for the truth.

00:19:37.140 So,

00:19:37.320 they allowed someone

00:19:38.000 to come on,

00:19:39.460 say false things,

00:19:41.340 unchallenged.

00:19:42.560 Okay,

00:19:42.820 so wait a minute,

00:19:43.360 Bill.

00:19:44.480 I can,

00:19:45.480 well,

00:19:45.700 I had Sidney Powell on,

00:19:47.260 and,

00:19:47.720 you know,

00:19:48.900 I said,

00:19:49.800 that's great.

00:19:51.440 If you have that,

00:19:53.580 you should produce it.

00:19:54.740 Well,

00:19:54.880 I am going to.

00:19:55.900 Well,

00:19:56.060 when you produce it,

00:19:57.080 I'll have you back.

00:19:59.080 So,

00:19:59.820 that's not a reckless regard.

00:20:02.280 No,

00:20:02.640 that's a reasonable approach.

00:20:04.540 Correct.

00:20:05.700 Now,

00:20:06.280 so the recklessness

00:20:07.780 comes from

00:20:08.760 because

00:20:09.220 I could have believed her,

00:20:11.700 but I didn't

00:20:12.780 because she would have

00:20:13.800 produced some evidence.

00:20:15.580 So,

00:20:15.740 I could have believed her.

00:20:17.400 I might not have believed her,

00:20:18.920 but I could still have her on.

00:20:21.040 The problem here

00:20:21.980 with Fox is

00:20:22.740 they had her on

00:20:24.580 over and over

00:20:25.820 and over again,

00:20:26.900 right?

00:20:28.120 Yeah,

00:20:28.360 but it was more than that.

00:20:30.640 So,

00:20:31.220 according to the depositions

00:20:32.840 and the internal documents

00:20:35.520 that Dominion got from Fox,

00:20:37.180 they had to hand them over.

00:20:39.020 That at the same time,

00:20:40.360 Sidney Powell and Giuliani

00:20:41.640 and other people

00:20:42.500 were saying

00:20:43.220 that Dominion did X,

00:20:44.400 Y,

00:20:44.620 and Z,

00:20:45.020 they knew that Dominion

00:20:46.540 didn't do it.

00:20:47.280 So,

00:20:49.260 I mean,

00:20:50.380 that's pretty tough.

00:20:53.000 That's pretty tough

00:20:53.940 to overcome

00:20:54.500 and that's what

00:20:55.240 Fox's burden is.

00:20:56.620 Now,

00:20:56.760 a couple of other things

00:20:57.540 you'll find interesting.

00:20:58.760 There isn't one media operation

00:21:00.820 in this country,

00:21:01.980 not one,

00:21:03.100 of any note

00:21:03.920 that wants Fox

00:21:05.780 to win this.

00:21:07.500 They all want Fox

00:21:09.340 to lose it

00:21:10.320 and be destroyed

00:21:11.920 because from day one,

00:21:14.280 that's what

00:21:14.860 the corporate media

00:21:15.640 has wanted,

00:21:16.220 destroy Fox News.

00:21:17.700 Correct.

00:21:18.680 And number two,

00:21:20.440 cameras in the courtroom

00:21:21.620 are not there.

00:21:24.100 That helps Fox

00:21:25.740 because if the cross-examination

00:21:28.400 of Rupert Murdoch

00:21:29.440 and Tucker Carlson

00:21:31.560 and the other people,

00:21:32.780 it's going to be brutal.

00:21:34.960 It's going to be brutal.

00:21:36.520 And if we're on camera,

00:21:38.140 then that video

00:21:39.460 would be everywhere.

00:21:40.240 Now,

00:21:41.360 the American people

00:21:42.200 and the world,

00:21:43.060 anybody,

00:21:43.520 watching around the world

00:21:44.640 will have to rely on

00:21:46.080 the print press

00:21:48.300 primarily

00:21:49.080 to tell them

00:21:50.720 what's going on

00:21:51.400 in the courtroom.

00:21:52.000 Now,

00:21:52.180 that's going to be brutal too,

00:21:53.500 but it's not as bad

00:21:55.100 as seeing it

00:21:56.680 with your own eyes.

00:21:57.500 Correct.

00:21:58.520 So,

00:21:59.220 what does this mean

00:22:01.140 not just to Fox,

00:22:03.080 but if Fox loses,

00:22:05.580 does this affect

00:22:06.620 the rest of us?

00:22:08.840 Not really

00:22:10.000 because

00:22:10.760 I sat in that chair

00:22:13.080 for more than

00:22:13.600 20 years

00:22:14.600 at Fox.

00:22:17.100 I didn't get sued

00:22:18.260 ever

00:22:18.640 because I put

00:22:23.060 the opposite

00:22:24.180 point of view on.

00:22:25.640 If you had

00:22:26.480 a provocative

00:22:27.100 thesis

00:22:28.760 or hypothesis

00:22:30.000 that

00:22:30.640 Dominion

00:22:31.380 or anybody else

00:22:32.100 was cheating

00:22:33.520 in the election,

00:22:34.740 I'll put you on,

00:22:36.060 but I'll cross-examine

00:22:37.820 you hard.

00:22:38.560 That's what I do.

00:22:39.840 But I'll also put

00:22:40.800 the other side on,

00:22:42.220 which isn't hard

00:22:42.960 to do, Beck.

00:22:44.460 That's not hard.

00:22:45.880 And if you do that,

00:22:48.340 then there's no malice.

00:22:49.720 So,

00:22:50.320 is that how

00:22:51.140 CNN

00:22:51.720 gets away

00:22:53.360 and all the other

00:22:54.700 media corporations

00:22:55.980 get away

00:22:56.700 with,

00:22:57.300 you know,

00:22:58.360 the whole

00:22:59.060 Russiagate

00:23:00.680 experience?

00:23:02.180 They

00:23:02.380 pounded that.

00:23:03.760 But here's the

00:23:04.340 difference.

00:23:04.840 Okay.

00:23:06.380 There was no

00:23:07.640 monetary

00:23:08.920 damage

00:23:10.080 done

00:23:11.060 to any

00:23:11.860 person

00:23:12.500 or corporation

00:23:13.400 in the

00:23:14.420 phony

00:23:14.840 Russiagate

00:23:15.600 thing.

00:23:16.060 Trump?

00:23:16.840 So,

00:23:17.760 some Americans

00:23:18.800 could,

00:23:19.540 and still to this

00:23:20.320 day,

00:23:20.800 statute of limitations

00:23:21.700 has not run out,

00:23:22.700 you could file

00:23:23.580 a class action

00:23:24.600 lawsuit against

00:23:25.480 CNN and NBC

00:23:26.440 News.

00:23:27.860 You could do

00:23:28.420 that.

00:23:29.140 It would cost you

00:23:30.040 millions of dollars,

00:23:31.000 so you'd have to get

00:23:31.560 somebody to

00:23:32.140 pay for it.

00:23:33.280 But you could

00:23:34.220 say that

00:23:35.340 they,

00:23:36.220 it's a fraud.

00:23:37.700 There's a reckless

00:23:38.480 disregard for the

00:23:39.780 truth on those

00:23:41.320 networks because

00:23:42.320 they promoted

00:23:44.060 a phony story,

00:23:45.960 Russian collusion.

00:23:47.000 You could do

00:23:48.100 that.

00:23:49.080 But it's a lot

00:23:50.240 harder to win

00:23:52.040 that kind of a

00:23:52.820 theoretical lawsuit

00:23:54.140 than this one.

00:23:56.920 Because of the

00:23:58.140 monetary harm.

00:24:00.020 Yeah.

00:24:00.600 You've got to

00:24:01.380 show damages.

00:24:02.680 Dominion says

00:24:03.600 they can show

00:24:04.500 it.

00:24:04.740 I don't know.

00:24:06.100 I don't know.

00:24:07.340 But I think

00:24:08.220 that, you know,

00:24:09.040 the jury,

00:24:09.940 the people who

00:24:10.460 don't know

00:24:11.120 anything,

00:24:13.180 the only thing

00:24:14.400 that they're

00:24:14.860 going to focus

00:24:15.420 in on is

00:24:16.200 reckless disregard

00:24:17.360 to the truth.

00:24:18.580 So,

00:24:19.180 behind the

00:24:19.800 scenes,

00:24:21.180 Fox News

00:24:21.840 commentator

00:24:22.560 whoever said

00:24:23.540 this,

00:24:24.720 but on the

00:24:25.600 show,

00:24:26.340 they said

00:24:27.200 that.

00:24:27.660 that's

00:24:29.440 going to

00:24:29.660 be tough

00:24:30.100 for Fox.

00:24:30.680 What does

00:24:31.260 it mean

00:24:31.760 if Fox

00:24:32.440 loses

00:24:32.860 for them?

00:24:34.540 Well,

00:24:35.280 mass layoffs,

00:24:37.180 number one,

00:24:39.060 because they're

00:24:39.600 going to take

00:24:40.120 a huge hit.

00:24:41.320 Remember,

00:24:42.040 the jury

00:24:42.760 can apply

00:24:44.520 punitive damages

00:24:45.900 against Fox

00:24:46.880 in addition

00:24:47.480 to the

00:24:48.380 $1.6 billion,

00:24:49.820 and they don't

00:24:50.260 have to award

00:24:51.100 Fox $1.6 billion.

00:24:53.120 They can award,

00:24:54.040 I'm sorry,

00:24:55.140 Dominion.

00:24:56.100 They can award

00:24:56.700 Dominion $800

00:24:57.520 million or

00:24:58.120 whatever,

00:24:58.820 okay?

00:24:59.380 And then a

00:24:59.960 judge can also

00:25:01.140 temper the

00:25:02.140 money,

00:25:02.760 but you've

00:25:03.580 got to assume

00:25:04.480 that this is

00:25:06.380 going to be,

00:25:06.880 if they lose,

00:25:07.760 FNC loses,

00:25:08.860 they're going to

00:25:09.300 pay an enormous

00:25:10.260 amount of money.

00:25:11.540 They've already

00:25:12.120 paid more than

00:25:13.200 $50 million

00:25:14.000 in legal fees.

00:25:16.200 Some of that

00:25:16.740 is covered

00:25:17.660 by insurance,

00:25:18.540 but they're

00:25:19.420 going to

00:25:19.680 hemorrhage

00:25:20.280 money.

00:25:20.800 That's number

00:25:21.260 one,

00:25:21.700 so they'll

00:25:21.940 have to lay

00:25:22.380 off a ton

00:25:23.140 of people

00:25:23.580 over there.

00:25:24.160 And number

00:25:25.560 two,

00:25:26.260 it shatters

00:25:27.100 them forever

00:25:28.120 as being a

00:25:30.520 legitimate news

00:25:31.400 agency.

00:25:35.780 The core

00:25:37.260 people who

00:25:38.040 watch Fox,

00:25:38.980 the older,

00:25:40.360 very conservative

00:25:41.540 people,

00:25:42.360 will continue

00:25:43.360 to watch.

00:25:45.100 They're not

00:25:45.740 going to bail.

00:25:47.100 They'll never

00:25:47.760 bail because

00:25:48.780 there's nowhere

00:25:49.460 else to go.

00:25:50.320 Right,

00:25:50.540 and the

00:25:50.940 audience keeps

00:25:51.740 getting smaller

00:25:52.420 and smaller

00:25:52.900 on all

00:25:53.540 cable news.

00:25:54.880 Yeah,

00:25:55.220 particularly

00:25:55.800 the younger

00:25:56.460 audience.

00:25:56.980 Yeah,

00:25:57.920 yeah.

00:25:58.220 They're gone

00:25:58.780 at Fox News.

00:25:59.740 They never

00:26:00.160 existed on the

00:26:01.400 others.

00:26:01.800 But you

00:26:02.140 mentioned

00:26:02.480 CNN and

00:26:03.960 the word

00:26:04.360 doom.

00:26:05.680 CNN knows

00:26:06.440 a lot about

00:26:07.120 doom,

00:26:07.700 Beck.

00:26:09.840 They keep

00:26:10.820 seeming to

00:26:11.920 carry on.

00:26:15.200 I don't know,

00:26:16.080 but they do.

00:26:17.640 Bill,

00:26:17.840 thank you very

00:26:18.360 much.

00:26:18.820 I appreciate it.

00:26:19.500 We'll talk

00:26:19.880 to you again

00:26:20.280 when the

00:26:20.580 trial starts

00:26:21.440 and get

00:26:23.560 your take

00:26:24.020 on it.

00:26:24.580 Thank you

00:26:24.860 so much.

00:26:25.160 All right,

00:26:25.400 thanks for

00:26:25.760 having me.

00:26:26.060 You bet.

00:26:26.460 Bill O'Reilly

00:26:26.900 from BillOReilly.com.

00:26:31.100 This is the

00:26:32.120 best of the

00:26:32.660 Glenn Beck

00:26:33.040 program.

00:26:38.300 James,

00:26:38.820 how are you?

00:26:39.520 Hey,

00:26:40.100 I'm good.

00:26:40.780 Good to have

00:26:41.220 you on,

00:26:41.620 man.

00:26:42.720 Yeah,

00:26:43.060 good to talk

00:26:43.580 to you.

00:26:43.920 Yeah,

00:26:44.240 so last

00:26:45.780 night I was

00:26:47.960 trying to

00:26:48.660 explain to

00:26:49.400 the audience

00:26:49.860 and I

00:26:50.180 thought you

00:26:50.780 are the

00:26:51.120 you're the

00:26:51.760 guy who

00:26:52.220 can really

00:26:52.700 explain it

00:26:53.340 really,

00:26:53.760 really well.

00:26:55.540 But it's

00:26:56.480 the

00:26:57.620 the world

00:26:59.300 that we

00:26:59.660 live in

00:27:00.300 is no

00:27:01.460 longer a

00:27:02.220 free market

00:27:02.860 world.

00:27:04.700 When

00:27:05.260 corporations

00:27:06.100 sat in

00:27:06.640 their board

00:27:07.140 room years

00:27:07.800 ago,

00:27:08.280 they would

00:27:09.020 try to

00:27:09.460 decide what

00:27:10.120 was best

00:27:10.600 for the

00:27:11.040 shareholders

00:27:11.540 and what

00:27:12.700 was best

00:27:13.320 for the

00:27:14.740 shareholders

00:27:15.220 was creating

00:27:16.880 a product

00:27:17.580 that the

00:27:18.340 public

00:27:18.820 wanted.

00:27:19.900 That's no

00:27:20.800 longer their

00:27:21.480 concern because

00:27:22.880 you have

00:27:23.880 BlackRock and

00:27:25.000 everybody that

00:27:25.920 is dictating

00:27:27.300 or they'll

00:27:27.860 sell the

00:27:28.580 stock or

00:27:29.240 fire people

00:27:30.120 on the

00:27:30.500 board and

00:27:30.920 replace them.

00:27:32.000 You have

00:27:32.940 all of these

00:27:33.800 activists that

00:27:34.880 will just make

00:27:35.480 their life a

00:27:36.320 nightmare.

00:27:36.800 You have the

00:27:37.100 insurance companies

00:27:37.940 and the banks

00:27:38.660 who if they're

00:27:39.820 not doing the

00:27:40.440 right thing with

00:27:41.120 the right score,

00:27:41.820 they're not

00:27:43.720 going to

00:27:44.080 participate with

00:27:44.920 you and you

00:27:45.240 have the

00:27:45.500 government

00:27:45.800 breathing down

00:27:46.420 your throat.

00:27:47.960 So is

00:27:49.300 the average

00:27:51.140 consumer even

00:27:54.380 considered anymore

00:27:55.680 in the board

00:27:56.440 rooms?

00:27:58.080 Barely.

00:27:58.940 The average

00:27:59.480 consumer doesn't

00:28:00.160 have anything

00:28:00.780 like the

00:28:01.360 power that

00:28:02.740 even in large

00:28:03.760 numbers of

00:28:04.500 average consumers

00:28:05.420 don't have

00:28:05.780 anything like

00:28:06.320 the power that

00:28:07.440 these big

00:28:07.900 financial institutions

00:28:09.060 in collusion

00:28:09.920 with the

00:28:10.220 government have

00:28:11.380 over these

00:28:11.820 corporations.

00:28:12.860 So not so

00:28:14.000 much.

00:28:14.400 That's why

00:28:14.980 the reaction

00:28:16.520 to go boycott

00:28:17.600 these companies,

00:28:18.440 yeah, maybe it

00:28:19.000 sends a message,

00:28:19.940 but all you're

00:28:20.940 doing is telling

00:28:21.640 them that you're

00:28:22.760 unhappy about

00:28:23.400 something that

00:28:23.920 they know you

00:28:24.380 are going to

00:28:24.620 be unhappy

00:28:25.080 about, that

00:28:25.600 they didn't

00:28:26.040 take you into

00:28:26.720 consideration when

00:28:27.640 they did the

00:28:28.040 calculation to

00:28:28.780 do it in the

00:28:29.180 first place.

00:28:30.300 So maybe it

00:28:31.140 has a small

00:28:32.080 effect, maybe

00:28:33.160 it gets their

00:28:33.620 attention, maybe

00:28:34.800 enough of these

00:28:36.280 will get some

00:28:37.100 attention, but for

00:28:37.720 the most part,

00:28:38.440 they are beholden

00:28:39.260 to other forces

00:28:40.120 that are not the

00:28:41.140 consumer, they

00:28:41.780 are not any

00:28:43.440 of the

00:28:43.860 traditional base

00:28:45.880 of economic

00:28:47.100 activity in a

00:28:48.280 market.

00:28:49.020 I was talking

00:28:49.780 to a fairly

00:28:51.260 successful businessman

00:28:52.380 a couple of

00:28:52.940 days ago, and

00:28:54.220 he said, well,

00:28:56.260 it's assuming we're

00:28:57.040 in a free market,

00:28:57.880 which I'm not

00:28:58.380 sure, and I

00:28:59.360 immediately

00:29:00.040 responded, we're

00:29:00.880 not in a free

00:29:01.480 market anymore.

00:29:02.500 This is no

00:29:03.700 longer capitalism

00:29:04.580 as we know it,

00:29:05.660 this is more

00:29:06.300 fascistic in

00:29:07.260 nature, but it's

00:29:09.120 it's not a

00:29:09.740 free market.

00:29:10.420 Would you

00:29:10.700 agree with

00:29:11.100 that?

00:29:12.260 Yeah, that's

00:29:13.140 correct.

00:29:13.560 I don't think

00:29:13.980 that we've had a

00:29:14.540 free market in

00:29:15.200 the United States

00:29:15.800 in a number of

00:29:16.400 years.

00:29:17.060 When it actually

00:29:18.120 tipped over, I

00:29:18.920 think it's been a

00:29:19.520 gradual process, so

00:29:21.120 it'd be hard to

00:29:21.800 pinpoint and say,

00:29:22.720 oh, it was

00:29:23.040 2015 or some

00:29:24.380 specific year, but

00:29:25.840 these tools like

00:29:27.120 ESG that we're

00:29:27.840 talking about are

00:29:28.460 much older than

00:29:29.040 people realize.

00:29:30.660 ESG was

00:29:31.220 devised at the

00:29:31.860 United Nations by

00:29:32.800 a man named

00:29:33.220 James Gifford in

00:29:34.100 2003, and it

00:29:35.920 was devised to

00:29:36.680 the purpose that

00:29:37.320 it's being used

00:29:37.860 for today, which

00:29:38.700 is how do we

00:29:39.300 take all of

00:29:40.000 that latent

00:29:40.920 money that's

00:29:41.660 tied up in

00:29:42.180 pensions?

00:29:43.040 All these people

00:29:43.660 put their

00:29:44.020 retirements away

00:29:44.800 for 30, 40

00:29:45.600 years.

00:29:46.420 All that money

00:29:47.040 is just sitting

00:29:47.620 there.

00:29:47.980 It's not being

00:29:48.600 invested in

00:29:49.540 things that could

00:29:50.180 have a social or

00:29:51.040 an environmental

00:29:51.540 impact.

00:29:52.160 How do we take

00:29:52.820 that money and

00:29:53.560 do social and

00:29:54.780 environmental

00:29:55.300 activist investing

00:29:56.540 with it instead?

00:29:57.780 And they came up

00:29:58.280 with that 20 years

00:29:59.860 ago, and it's

00:30:01.520 grown in scope

00:30:03.720 over the past 20

00:30:04.940 years, and it's

00:30:05.760 come to the point

00:30:06.360 now where they

00:30:07.600 are controlling,

00:30:09.680 like you said,

00:30:10.240 in a very

00:30:10.560 fascistic manner

00:30:11.400 how the market

00:30:12.200 is going to

00:30:12.820 operate using

00:30:14.220 that gigantic

00:30:15.100 reservoir of

00:30:15.800 money that they

00:30:16.320 figured out how

00:30:16.840 to tap into.

00:30:17.900 Can you explain

00:30:18.580 CEI and the

00:30:20.280 scoring system?

00:30:22.340 Yeah, CEI is

00:30:23.120 actually pretty

00:30:23.700 simple.

00:30:24.580 This also is

00:30:25.300 older than people

00:30:25.980 realize.

00:30:26.760 This is probably

00:30:27.520 for a lot of

00:30:28.140 people the first

00:30:28.740 week they've

00:30:29.320 ever heard of

00:30:29.940 the Corporate

00:30:30.500 Equality Index,

00:30:32.020 but it was

00:30:32.520 devised in

00:30:33.060 2002 at the

00:30:35.080 Human Rights

00:30:36.100 Campaign, which

00:30:37.040 was a gay

00:30:37.760 civil rights

00:30:38.400 organization that

00:30:39.500 eventually in

00:30:40.300 the 2006-7-8

00:30:42.560 era seems to

00:30:43.880 have received a

00:30:44.620 large amount of

00:30:45.140 money from the

00:30:45.580 Open Society

00:30:46.240 Foundation and

00:30:47.300 George Soros'

00:30:48.440 foundation and

00:30:49.140 changed its

00:30:49.780 direction to

00:30:50.880 being very

00:30:51.460 activist-driven

00:30:52.320 in a new

00:30:52.940 way.

00:30:54.200 And they

00:30:54.680 started, in

00:30:55.520 2002, they

00:30:56.200 started this

00:30:56.660 Equality Index

00:30:57.520 to show how

00:30:58.220 well to score

00:30:59.200 companies on how

00:31:00.120 well they are

00:31:01.120 taking up with

00:31:02.560 social causes

00:31:04.320 related to the

00:31:05.820 gay rights and

00:31:06.520 the LGBTQ

00:31:07.060 agendas.

00:31:08.680 And this

00:31:10.380 score is very

00:31:11.200 useful because

00:31:12.100 it's a part of

00:31:13.460 the S, the

00:31:14.480 social justice

00:31:15.220 part of the

00:31:16.000 ESG score.

00:31:17.040 So it's very

00:31:17.480 useful to these

00:31:18.440 banks like

00:31:20.020 BlackRock that

00:31:21.080 are trying to

00:31:21.540 figure out,

00:31:22.240 well, is Nike

00:31:23.840 or Coca-Cola or

00:31:25.360 in this case

00:31:26.040 Anheuser-Busch

00:31:26.920 and Bud Light,

00:31:27.680 are they doing

00:31:28.960 their part in

00:31:30.120 and to be

00:31:31.860 socially

00:31:32.380 corporate

00:31:32.940 responsible?

00:31:34.140 And so they

00:31:35.180 use this

00:31:36.200 score, and it

00:31:37.800 has a number,

00:31:38.420 it's scored out

00:31:38.980 of 100, they

00:31:39.620 use this score

00:31:40.260 to determine

00:31:41.040 are you having

00:31:42.560 internal policies

00:31:43.820 at your company

00:31:44.520 that are LGBTQ

00:31:45.360 friendly?

00:31:46.160 Are you going

00:31:46.600 out of your

00:31:46.940 way and bending

00:31:47.580 over backwards

00:31:48.160 for them inside

00:31:48.920 the company?

00:31:50.040 Are you making

00:31:51.560 LGBTQ visibility

00:31:53.720 into the public?

00:31:54.940 Are you behaving

00:31:55.720 in a corporate

00:31:56.260 responsibility manner?

00:31:57.440 And they give

00:31:57.820 you points based

00:31:58.660 on whether or

00:31:59.380 not you do

00:31:59.800 these things

00:32:00.360 and they can

00:32:01.120 take away

00:32:01.500 points if you

00:32:02.160 do something

00:32:02.500 they don't

00:32:02.840 like.

00:32:03.720 And if you

00:32:03.980 don't have

00:32:04.260 a 100

00:32:04.840 CEI score,

00:32:06.280 you're not

00:32:06.600 listed as the

00:32:07.160 best place

00:32:07.600 to work

00:32:08.040 and all kinds

00:32:08.940 of consequences

00:32:09.600 start to

00:32:10.060 follow, so

00:32:10.640 much so that

00:32:11.460 corporations brag

00:32:12.640 about earning

00:32:13.180 their 100 for

00:32:14.000 the first time

00:32:14.640 and on their

00:32:15.860 websites and

00:32:16.520 put out press

00:32:17.100 releases and

00:32:18.100 there are over

00:32:18.520 840 American

00:32:20.340 corporations that

00:32:21.520 have a 100

00:32:22.400 score from this

00:32:23.640 human rights

00:32:24.140 campaign

00:32:24.660 quality index

00:32:26.000 score.

00:32:26.200 And it's

00:32:26.520 really not

00:32:27.540 just about

00:32:28.540 equality or

00:32:30.000 treating people

00:32:31.080 right or having

00:32:31.740 an open

00:32:32.280 workspace or

00:32:33.040 anything like

00:32:33.420 that.

00:32:34.220 A lot of

00:32:34.940 that score

00:32:35.460 comes from

00:32:36.380 your advertising

00:32:38.220 and your

00:32:39.520 social outreach

00:32:41.080 and promoting

00:32:42.380 these things.

00:32:43.200 So Dylan

00:32:43.840 Mulvaney makes

00:32:44.920 total sense

00:32:45.860 when you

00:32:46.340 understand the

00:32:48.380 CEI score,

00:32:50.540 correct?

00:32:51.720 Yeah, that's

00:32:52.140 right.

00:32:52.440 That's exactly

00:32:52.960 right, Glenn.

00:32:54.360 They come to

00:32:55.380 you.

00:32:55.780 The HRC, the

00:32:56.980 Human Rights

00:32:57.380 Campaign, sends

00:32:58.100 agents every

00:33:00.540 year to tell

00:33:01.720 you what you

00:33:02.440 have to do as

00:33:02.980 a corporation

00:33:03.600 in order to

00:33:04.280 promote more

00:33:04.800 LGBT visibility,

00:33:06.120 to promote

00:33:06.500 LGBT activism

00:33:07.560 and social

00:33:08.200 change.

00:33:09.540 And if you

00:33:10.040 want to have

00:33:10.480 your score go

00:33:11.220 up or you

00:33:11.800 want to maintain

00:33:12.400 your 100, you

00:33:13.200 have to meet

00:33:13.740 all these new

00:33:14.260 demands.

00:33:14.800 This is, in

00:33:15.500 other words,

00:33:15.920 racketeering.

00:33:17.140 What do these

00:33:17.840 demands look like?

00:33:18.920 Well, in the

00:33:19.340 past, they have

00:33:20.100 been specifically

00:33:21.160 that there's some

00:33:22.400 piece of

00:33:22.700 legislation that

00:33:23.420 they want

00:33:23.760 passed, some

00:33:24.180 kind of equality

00:33:24.840 legislation.

00:33:25.580 So the

00:33:25.780 corporation has

00:33:26.560 to start to

00:33:27.020 lobby for that

00:33:27.980 or else they're

00:33:28.800 going to lose

00:33:29.200 their score.

00:33:30.720 There are these

00:33:31.700 ad campaigns,

00:33:32.580 like you see,

00:33:33.220 to put people

00:33:33.760 like Dylan

00:33:34.260 Mulvaney and

00:33:34.900 push a new

00:33:35.540 set of values

00:33:36.280 into the

00:33:36.960 American culture

00:33:38.220 while tarnishing

00:33:39.480 the old values,

00:33:40.920 mocking the old

00:33:41.640 values.

00:33:42.400 And this is the

00:33:43.000 kind of thing

00:33:43.400 that increases

00:33:43.920 allegedly LGBTQ

00:33:45.320 visibility.

00:33:47.340 So this can

00:33:47.980 increase your

00:33:48.540 score.

00:33:49.740 Last year,

00:33:50.560 there was,

00:33:51.160 as I've heard

00:33:51.920 from some

00:33:52.720 closed-door

00:33:53.600 channels,

00:33:54.560 there was a

00:33:55.280 racket push

00:33:56.260 on the three

00:33:56.880 major airlines

00:33:57.680 to give

00:33:58.320 Pride activists

00:33:59.280 free airline

00:34:00.740 tickets to fly

00:34:01.500 around to

00:34:01.940 Pride events

00:34:02.580 because airline

00:34:03.340 tickets are

00:34:03.820 expensive.

00:34:04.800 And if they

00:34:05.020 didn't give

00:34:05.320 away millions

00:34:05.840 of dollars

00:34:06.320 in free

00:34:06.720 flights to

00:34:07.320 activists to

00:34:07.960 fly to these

00:34:08.540 Pride events

00:34:09.060 all over the

00:34:09.480 country through

00:34:09.980 June and July,

00:34:11.160 well, they

00:34:11.480 might lose

00:34:11.860 their 100.

00:34:12.560 And all three

00:34:13.020 major, actually

00:34:13.800 all four major

00:34:14.580 airlines in the

00:34:15.380 United States

00:34:15.840 have a perfect

00:34:16.640 CEI score.

00:34:17.920 So every

00:34:18.860 single year,

00:34:19.780 they come

00:34:20.080 with new

00:34:20.460 demands, new

00:34:21.260 things you have

00:34:21.880 to do this

00:34:22.440 year in order

00:34:23.100 to maintain

00:34:23.500 your score.

00:34:24.460 And it's

00:34:24.960 whatever their

00:34:25.480 agenda items

00:34:26.100 are for that

00:34:27.080 particular year.

00:34:27.800 So if you

00:34:28.680 had a company

00:34:29.680 that, like

00:34:31.480 Bud Light, that

00:34:32.260 had a great

00:34:33.260 reputation, not

00:34:34.560 being about

00:34:35.080 politics, it's

00:34:35.900 not even about

00:34:36.420 beer, it's about

00:34:37.100 the stupid

00:34:37.600 Clydesdales, you

00:34:39.060 know, all the

00:34:39.620 time.

00:34:41.220 They had a

00:34:42.080 great reputation

00:34:42.920 with the

00:34:43.520 American people.

00:34:44.340 If they

00:34:45.340 decided, we're

00:34:46.440 not doing any

00:34:47.540 of this, you

00:34:49.000 know, it's

00:34:49.400 against our

00:34:50.180 corporate culture,

00:34:52.320 or we might

00:34:53.780 agree with you

00:34:54.600 on a lot, but

00:34:55.180 we're not going

00:34:55.660 to be taken

00:34:56.320 hostage.

00:34:57.200 We make the

00:34:58.020 decisions here.

00:34:59.840 What would

00:35:00.180 happen to them?

00:35:02.000 Well, a number

00:35:03.540 of things would

00:35:04.080 happen.

00:35:04.440 First, they

00:35:04.820 would get a

00:35:05.680 shot across

00:35:06.220 their bow,

00:35:06.720 their score

00:35:07.140 would be

00:35:07.480 threatened, and

00:35:08.020 it may go

00:35:08.400 down, at

00:35:09.340 which point,

00:35:10.420 all of the

00:35:10.960 kind of ESG

00:35:11.800 apparatus is going

00:35:12.700 to start to

00:35:13.120 rumble into

00:35:13.700 action.

00:35:15.020 So, the

00:35:15.600 HRC doesn't

00:35:16.360 have any

00:35:16.720 direct power

00:35:17.580 over Anheuser

00:35:19.000 Bush, but

00:35:20.060 Larry Fink at

00:35:21.260 BlackRock does.

00:35:22.340 So, all of a

00:35:23.000 sudden, they

00:35:23.580 can say, well,

00:35:24.220 you're not a

00:35:25.040 best place to

00:35:25.680 work anymore

00:35:26.200 for LGBTQ,

00:35:27.260 so let's go

00:35:27.700 ahead and

00:35:28.300 delist you,

00:35:29.180 perhaps, from

00:35:29.800 these index

00:35:30.320 funds.

00:35:31.280 So, Anheuser

00:35:32.060 Bush stock

00:35:32.820 right now is

00:35:33.820 bundled up into

00:35:34.540 all of these

00:35:35.040 pension funds

00:35:35.780 that states

00:35:36.700 like California

00:35:37.500 are dumping

00:35:38.040 billions of

00:35:38.780 dollars into

00:35:39.400 every year,

00:35:40.340 and that's a

00:35:41.160 huge reservoir

00:35:42.520 of money that

00:35:43.260 goes into

00:35:43.680 your stock

00:35:44.260 value, let's

00:35:45.240 just take that

00:35:45.680 away from you.

00:35:46.400 Let's just

00:35:46.780 delist you.

00:35:47.780 And if that

00:35:48.140 causes a spook

00:35:48.920 in the market

00:35:49.440 that causes

00:35:49.960 people to sell

00:35:50.560 your stock and

00:35:51.200 run away from

00:35:51.660 your stock,

00:35:52.120 well, so be

00:35:52.860 it.

00:35:53.300 And maybe we're

00:35:53.960 going to have

00:35:54.260 to replace

00:35:54.700 some of your

00:35:55.020 board members

00:35:55.600 because your

00:35:56.060 board members

00:35:56.520 decided to

00:35:57.040 take a stand

00:35:57.600 against us,

00:35:58.140 and since they're

00:35:58.600 going to have

00:35:58.960 some huge

00:35:59.500 portion of the

00:36:00.160 stocks controlling

00:36:02.140 that company,

00:36:02.840 they're going to

00:36:03.080 be able to

00:36:03.420 appoint and remove

00:36:05.020 board members

00:36:05.660 kind of at

00:36:06.100 will.

00:36:07.040 They may just

00:36:07.760 also directly

00:36:08.540 vote.

00:36:08.960 So there's

00:36:09.340 a lot of

00:36:09.740 kind of

00:36:09.980 carrot stick

00:36:10.740 incentives that

00:36:14.160 they can press

00:36:15.120 on this.

00:36:15.700 It's also been

00:36:16.420 tied into

00:36:17.080 what am I

00:36:18.980 looking for,

00:36:19.380 executive

00:36:19.820 compensation

00:36:20.540 packages.

00:36:21.540 So these

00:36:21.960 executives are

00:36:22.700 also, if they

00:36:23.600 are doing what

00:36:24.320 it takes to

00:36:24.880 keep that score

00:36:25.500 up, they get

00:36:26.380 bonuses.

00:36:27.120 If they mess

00:36:27.840 that score up,

00:36:28.580 they lose their

00:36:29.220 bonuses.

00:36:30.140 It's a very

00:36:30.840 simple economic

00:36:31.860 proposition at that

00:36:33.220 point for them.

00:36:33.900 And so they

00:36:35.580 aren't likely to

00:36:36.240 take a stand

00:36:36.840 because they're

00:36:37.600 going to get

00:36:38.500 the stick, as

00:36:40.060 it were, if they

00:36:41.020 try to take a

00:36:41.600 stand against any

00:36:42.280 of this.

00:36:42.940 So besides being

00:36:44.100 an entrepreneurial

00:36:45.140 kind of community

00:36:46.760 and a secondary

00:36:48.840 economy, what

00:36:50.760 can you do

00:36:52.420 about it?

00:36:53.000 Because, I

00:36:53.340 mean, it's so

00:36:54.680 far down the

00:36:55.620 road.

00:36:55.960 People don't

00:36:56.520 understand.

00:36:57.840 You don't

00:36:58.860 matter anymore.

00:36:59.920 You're seeing it

00:37:01.080 in the government.

00:37:02.000 No matter what

00:37:02.560 you say, it

00:37:03.800 doesn't matter.

00:37:05.040 We're doing it.

00:37:05.860 I think we're

00:37:06.720 going to go to

00:37:07.520 war with Russia

00:37:08.880 and or China,

00:37:09.960 maybe even both

00:37:10.780 of them, and

00:37:11.480 we're never going

00:37:12.200 to have the

00:37:12.640 debate about it.

00:37:13.780 It's just going

00:37:14.300 to happen because

00:37:15.420 the elites are

00:37:16.960 deciding.

00:37:17.740 So how do we

00:37:18.820 reverse this?

00:37:20.960 Well, it's a

00:37:21.920 slow process,

00:37:22.660 actually.

00:37:23.280 Everybody, when we

00:37:24.100 think about how

00:37:24.540 we're going to

00:37:24.820 reverse this,

00:37:25.420 because the

00:37:26.000 stakes seem very

00:37:27.040 high, we hope

00:37:28.340 that we're going

00:37:28.780 to just reverse

00:37:29.360 it, like,

00:37:29.880 overnight.

00:37:30.620 This isn't

00:37:31.260 what's going to

00:37:31.760 happen.

00:37:32.080 There's not going

00:37:32.580 to be some

00:37:33.020 miraculous,

00:37:33.800 moment where

00:37:34.840 we say, oh,

00:37:35.320 this is really

00:37:35.820 bad.

00:37:36.820 We're going

00:37:37.280 to not do

00:37:37.640 this anymore.

00:37:38.580 What there

00:37:39.040 is the

00:37:39.420 opportunity to

00:37:40.120 do is to

00:37:40.640 slowly start

00:37:41.120 exposing this,

00:37:41.920 to show how

00:37:42.400 it works, to

00:37:43.000 reveal that

00:37:43.600 this is a

00:37:44.480 racketeering

00:37:45.440 scheme.

00:37:46.360 So Anheuser-Busch,

00:37:47.120 if you stop

00:37:47.560 thinking of them

00:37:48.140 as the enemy

00:37:48.660 for putting

00:37:49.120 Dylan Mulvaney

00:37:49.720 on a can,

00:37:50.320 and you start

00:37:50.700 thinking of them

00:37:52.020 as being an

00:37:52.520 American company

00:37:53.280 that's in a

00:37:53.720 hostage situation,

00:37:54.900 you start

00:37:56.140 thinking about it

00:37:56.800 in a different

00:37:57.180 way.

00:37:57.620 How do we

00:37:58.120 start trying

00:37:58.860 to reach

00:37:59.500 out to our

00:38:00.460 leaders that

00:38:01.380 aren't completely

00:38:02.340 on board with

00:38:03.020 the regime's

00:38:03.880 plans, start

00:38:05.120 to reach out

00:38:05.680 to these

00:38:06.060 entities and

00:38:07.100 say, look,

00:38:08.040 you do business

00:38:08.700 in this state,

00:38:09.340 you do a lot

00:38:09.780 of business

00:38:10.120 in this state,

00:38:10.900 you do business

00:38:11.560 in the United

00:38:11.960 States, how do

00:38:12.820 we help you get

00:38:13.680 out from

00:38:14.020 underneath this?

00:38:15.320 In other words,

00:38:16.240 when you're

00:38:16.580 trying to turn

00:38:17.740 over a cartel

00:38:18.700 or a racket,

00:38:19.400 you've got to

00:38:19.920 start to get

00:38:20.340 people who are

00:38:20.940 caught up in

00:38:21.520 the system,

00:38:22.380 who want to get

00:38:22.900 out of the

00:38:23.260 system, to start

00:38:24.440 telling stories

00:38:25.300 about how it

00:38:25.860 actually works.

00:38:26.500 And in the

00:38:27.960 meantime, we

00:38:28.500 have to just

00:38:29.100 continue to

00:38:29.840 expose and

00:38:30.600 delegitimize the

00:38:31.980 process as much

00:38:32.940 as possible.

00:38:34.320 It's fine if we

00:38:35.120 want to do

00:38:35.420 these things like

00:38:35.940 these boycotts,

00:38:36.760 but I urge the

00:38:37.960 American consumer

00:38:39.560 to realize that

00:38:40.720 it's not even

00:38:41.720 just these cartel

00:38:42.900 running kind of

00:38:43.780 scores and banks

00:38:44.700 that are the

00:38:45.100 problem.

00:38:45.740 With companies

00:38:46.500 like Nike,

00:38:47.180 which also has

00:38:47.820 promoted Dylan

00:38:48.540 Mulvaney, their

00:38:49.460 largest market

00:38:50.160 share right now

00:38:50.800 is in China.

00:38:51.780 It's not even

00:38:52.440 you anymore.

00:38:54.140 And so American

00:38:54.740 conservatives can

00:38:55.680 try to boycott

00:38:57.580 these things,

00:38:58.500 but they don't

00:38:59.020 realize that

00:38:59.700 you're a very

00:39:00.920 small percentage

00:39:01.600 of the overall

00:39:02.480 market.

00:39:03.300 So we've got to

00:39:04.040 start thinking in

00:39:04.720 terms of what

00:39:05.160 do we need to

00:39:05.600 do with these

00:39:06.080 gigantic multinational

00:39:07.760 corporate

00:39:08.680 conglomerates,

00:39:09.700 because they've

00:39:10.540 become big enough

00:39:11.360 and international

00:39:12.060 enough where there

00:39:12.760 is no accountability

00:39:13.980 whatsoever to the

00:39:15.260 American people.

00:39:16.240 And we've got to

00:39:16.860 start rethinking

00:39:17.420 how that happens,

00:39:18.240 but it starts by

00:39:18.900 exposing it.

00:39:19.780 It really does.

00:39:21.660 James, thank you

00:39:22.620 for everything that

00:39:23.440 you do.

00:39:23.860 Um, you, you're

00:39:25.360 just, you're an

00:39:26.240 amazing story, you

00:39:28.200 know, started at the

00:39:28.920 University of

00:39:29.740 Portland, uh, a

00:39:32.180 guy that we would

00:39:32.960 probably have never

00:39:33.920 have talked back

00:39:35.020 then, uh, to

00:39:36.240 somebody who has

00:39:36.980 just been relentless

00:39:38.100 on research and

00:39:39.900 found the truth.

00:39:41.120 And now you're a

00:39:42.440 machine.

00:39:42.880 I mean, you are

00:39:43.660 really breaking

00:39:45.060 things up and, uh,

00:39:46.360 I appreciate it.

00:39:47.440 Thank you.

00:39:48.240 Well, thanks,

00:39:48.680 Glenn.

00:39:49.140 We're going to

00:39:49.800 save this country.

00:39:50.440 Thank you, James

00:39:52.060 Lindsay, new

00:39:53.780 discourses.com,

00:39:55.540 new discourses.com.

00:39:57.160 You should also

00:39:57.560 follow him on

00:39:58.140 Twitter.

00:39:58.640 Conceptual James.

00:39:59.820 Na, na, na, na.

The Glenn Beck Program - April 13, 2023

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Bill O'Reilly & James Lindsay ｜

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