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00:01:10.580 Pat Gray is with us from Pat Gray Unleashed podcast. You can get on iTunes or or wherever. Hi,

00:01:17.060 Pat. How are you doing? Good. Good. You want to talk today about

00:01:20.040 Disney's threatened boycott of Georgia. Oh, yeah. Bob Iger just made this announcement

00:01:28.020 yesterday. The abortion bill in Georgia. How do you feel about that? And is Disney going

00:01:33.420 to keep producing there? Well, I think if it becomes law, it'll be very difficult to produce

00:01:39.120 there. I rather doubt we will. Why? I don't think you want. I think many people who work for

00:01:45.420 us will not want to work there and somebody else will have to heed their wishes in that regard.

00:01:50.900 Right now, we're we're watching it very carefully. Stop. So I don't have a I don't actually have a

00:01:56.180 problem with Bob Iger saying this. I wish he had a spine, but he is he's giving in to the wishes of

00:02:02.240 all the creatives. And, you know, well, you're going to what are you going to do? Do the same thing if

00:02:06.900 their wish was, yeah, we don't want to we don't want to perform in New York because their abortion 1.00

00:02:11.640 law is so extreme. They can kill a baby that's just about to be born. If a company had most of 0.63

00:02:18.460 their employees saying that, I think they would. You think they'd carry to that? Yeah, I think if

00:02:23.680 most of their employees were saying that they would like a would Chick-fil-A if they said, you know

00:02:29.900 what, we don't want to go to New York because we don't want to have abortion because we don't like 0.55

00:02:34.220 the abortion law. I mean, they would get destroyed by the media for that stance.

00:02:38.300 Oh, of course. Oh, yeah. But Chick-fil-A would do it. Yeah, they would do it. They would do it.

00:02:42.880 I mean, I don't think it's bad to have principles. It's interesting. And if their principles are,

00:02:46.740 you know, we really, really just adore killing children. Bob Iger's principle is I got to make 0.98

00:02:51.620 money. I got to make movies and I got to make money. Probably. And certainly doesn't give a crap

00:02:56.100 about the crew. Yeah. The poor people who are working in Georgia on these movies who probably are all on

00:03:01.560 their side of the argument when it comes to abortion. He also doesn't give a crap about 0.99

00:03:05.340 China's policies. No, I know that. Where they've got people in internment camps right now and they're 0.98

00:03:09.040 killing millions of Muslims. I know. But they're doing business with China? Yeah, they're doing 1.00

00:03:13.820 business with China. Huh. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that interesting? The hypocrisy. All of these companies

00:03:18.700 are doing this. I think it is remarkable what we are going through. And that's why we started the show

00:03:24.440 the way we did is we've got to take a stand. And the way to fight this. Yes, we have to take a stand.

00:03:30.640 That's my point. Yeah, we have to take a stand. And the way to fight it is to say, oh, okay, Disney.

00:03:36.800 Bye bye. Right. You know, yeah, but all of us have to do that to not just Georgia. And I know all of us

00:03:42.520 Governor Brian Kemp is is telling him that he's saying, yeah, okay, see ya. Yeah, I mean, it's it's

00:03:48.040 it's really the the iPhone thing. Go with me here for a second. I have this conversation with my wife all

00:03:55.100 the time. I'll be like, put the iPhone down, put the iPhone down, put it down, put it down, put it down,

00:03:59.600 crackhead, crackhead, put it down. And she'd be like, I am doing all of these things. I got it.

00:04:05.680 Okay, well, you know what, go without it for a week. Are you kidding me? You know what, honey,

00:04:10.440 you sure did it 10 years ago, and we were fine. That's what Georgia and all these other places

00:04:16.500 need to say. Oh, Hollywood won't produce our movie, their movies here. Oh, let's see. Georgia was doing

00:04:22.360 pretty fine without them. Yeah, we don't have to worry about it. You will find other things. And

00:04:29.680 and if if we start putting life behind making a stupid movie. Wow. Yeah, or going to a stupid movie. 1.00

00:04:42.560 If we started hitting Disney in the pocketbook, like I'm not going to I'm not going to your Disney 1.00

00:04:48.240 world. I'm not going to Disneyland and not going to your Disney movies. But with Star Wars,

00:04:53.440 you're not going to Marvel. You're just not going to you're not going to but and that's the only

00:04:57.420 thing that would make a statement to Bob Iger and to Disney. Okay, if we can play that game too.

00:05:03.240 And on the other side, boycotts lose their effectiveness when you don't give them credibility

00:05:08.420 the power, right? Like, you know, North Carolina tried to stand up against you when the bathroom law

00:05:13.560 thing was going on last year. And they were like, where's work? We passed this law. It's important.

00:05:18.440 And all this then the NBA was like, yeah, we're not going to have our all star game there. Like,

00:05:21.920 okay, forget it. We didn't care. And it would stop. Stop. We're sorry. It's like, all right,

00:05:26.580 let's not going to work, right? Like, you have to when you make a decision like that, and you know,

00:05:31.120 the consequences, what you're saying is I'm putting this at a higher priority than that,

00:05:36.240 right? Georgia is saying I'm putting life at a higher priority than than Disney and Disney is saying

00:05:40.560 I'm putting abortion at a higher priority than the workers in the state, than my potentially my 0.89

00:05:47.960 previous commitments, uh, and maybe the business, uh, influence. And they can make that choice as a

00:05:54.320 company. They can, they can say, you know what, we just, we just heart killing babies. We just love 0.69

00:05:59.820 ending those heartbeats and they can just do that all they want. And if that's their principle,

00:06:03.660 then you know what their principle is. And you can make that decision, whether you feel like

00:06:07.020 that's really cool is one you want to play with. It's interesting that we raise our children on

00:06:12.320 Disney and yet Disney is not standing for the unborn children. I mean, it's, it's really,

00:06:19.740 truly remarkable with, with that being, uh, that being said, boycotts are just destruction

00:06:26.500 and that's not, that's not how to fight or win. Now I am always torn on boycotts because I am right

00:06:35.220 now. Yeah. I'm really torn on boycotts because I mean, Martin Luther King said, you know, if we

00:06:40.940 don't boycott, if we don't hit him in the pocket book, it's not going to make a difference. And he

00:06:44.540 was right. Um, however, what is, boycotts will work when there's creative destruction. And what I

00:06:55.920 mean by that is the, it's easy for people to boycott on the left because they can say,

00:07:01.480 I'm not going to watch Fox news. Well, they're fine. Not watching Fox news because they have six

00:07:07.700 other things that they like more. When we say I'm going to boycott Disney, what are you replacing

00:07:14.160 that hole with you? Well, I'm going to boycott this. Really? Are you, you're going to boycott

00:07:20.920 Google. You're going to boycott Facebook. You're going to boycott what Apple. What are you

00:07:28.400 replacing it with? I mean, there's no way Pat could boycott Facebook. It's too much of his

00:07:32.780 life. It's just too big of a part of his life. Social media for Pat. But what I'm saying is the

00:07:38.100 average person, they want to boycott Facebook, but it's already such a big part of their life.

00:07:43.740 And there's nothing that is on the other side that is just as good. And so what has to happen is you

00:07:50.980 have to have creative destruction and there we have to start developing. For instance, we have to go

00:07:56.620 and support some really crappy Christian movies to get to some good Christian movies. You know 0.92

00:08:03.520 what I mean? And we've done that and we've done that. Yeah. And you see, they're getting good and

00:08:08.480 you're, and it's away from the studio system. That's a really good example because it's worked

00:08:12.920 in that, in that case, you have to, you have to leave the blaze out of this. You have to go and

00:08:20.120 subscribe to Ben Shapiro or to Bill O'Reilly or whatever the blaze. You have to subscribe because

00:08:28.680 we are in the creative destruction process. You're never going to replace these mainstream media

00:08:36.140 overnight. It's just not going to happen. It has to start from the grassroots and then build and it

00:08:43.400 will get better and better and better. And 10 years from now, things will be different,

00:08:47.520 but you can't boycott without the other option that is just as good, if not better. That's why

00:08:55.080 it works for the right, for the left and why it doesn't work for the right. I'm not going shopping

00:09:03.260 at Target or Walmart or, or, or, or Kmart or any of it. Really? Where are you going to go buy stuff?

00:09:10.880 I'm not going to go to Target ever again. Okay. How long did that last? Because you like Target,

00:09:21.180 you like these places and there's nothing just as good on the other side because they've got

00:09:28.920 all of those. I'm going to buy all my groceries at home Depot now. That's exactly right. That's what

00:09:36.220 it's like. That's what it's like. That's the company we have. So I'm going to go grocery shopping

00:09:40.600 for milk and, and bread and cookies at home Depot. Right. I'm going to, I'm never buying anything

00:09:46.640 again on Amazon. Really? Yeah. That's not going to happen. So what is it we have though? We don't,

00:09:52.780 since we don't do boycotts and don't really even believe in them, although we're, you and I are torn

00:09:57.380 on that a little bit. What do you do to make a statement to the Disney's and the Netflix's of the

00:10:01.780 world, uh, that it's unacceptable. You know what? I, I, I am so proud of my daughter, Hannah,

00:10:07.680 uh, because she has become this greenie and not because of global warming, but because she believes 0.95

00:10:15.680 that we waste too much. Okay. And she has never lectured me. I mean, I joke with her all the time.

00:10:23.780 Um, she comes over and I'll be like styrofoam. It's so wonderful. Uh, and it is, yeah, it is. And

00:10:32.280 she, you know, she throws it back in my face, but it's never, she's not trying to convince anyone

00:10:38.420 what she's come to the conclusion is. I don't think these big movements actually do anything.

00:10:46.420 I think people actually living it and showing it's not that hard. We'll change things. For instance,

00:10:57.480 the, the, what's that all, you know, the miracle burger or impossible burger, impossible burger,

00:11:02.460 that's going to change so much because it's actually good. Creative destruction. But people

00:11:09.980 like Stu had to eat those crappy burgers for a long time. Just 10 years, 10, 15 years.

00:11:16.140 Yeah, that's it. That's all. It wasn't that bad at all. They finally came out with a good

00:11:19.380 one. So, right. Well, I think it's, it's, it's almost a point. And this goes back to the

00:11:22.620 Obama era, early Obama era in that it's a thought of a difference between, uh, salvation

00:11:29.500 and collective salvation. Right. Like in, like you, I think that we always think of ourselves

00:11:36.100 as individuals and you have to do what you believe is right. And like, you know, there's

00:11:40.700 a lot of things that I believe that I, you know, I'm not going to sit here and evangelize

00:11:43.460 for because they don't, no one cares. Right. Like, you know, you, I mean, I'll tell you

00:11:46.980 if you ask me, but I mean, there's a level of, I'm doing what I want to do and believe

00:11:51.700 is right because I believe it's right. Not because I'm trying to influence other people

00:11:56.560 or make a giant societal change.

00:11:59.200 That's where Hannah is.

00:12:00.140 Yeah. And I think that's a, I think that's a good place to land. I mean, I, you can only

00:12:04.120 do, you can get obsessed with this stuff because if you tried to, we just joked about

00:12:07.600 it with like, you can't buy something on Amazon. Imagine trying to actually implement a strategy

00:12:12.460 that you boycotted every company that you disagreed with. We all know it's undoable.

00:12:17.600 I'm not, I, if you want to have a boycotted, like if it makes you feel like you're doing

00:12:21.140 something, that's fine. But I mean, like it's impossible. Like you would never watch another

00:12:25.600 television show. You would never, you would never watch another movie. You would not be

00:12:30.500 able to go, the electric, the electricity company you're doing business with is probably

00:12:34.580 doing things that violate your interests. Right. Right. You're what you wouldn't do

00:12:37.600 anything. You wouldn't do anything. Wouldn't do anything. Right. And like, it's just

00:12:40.620 You wouldn't have a cell phone. You wouldn't have a cell phone. Like the Patriot Mobile

00:12:43.060 ads we talk about all the time. You wouldn't, unless it's Patriot Mobile, you would not have

00:12:47.860 cell service. And unfortunately, there's not a Patriot Mobile in every category. Right.

00:12:50.680 And you know what? Right. The Patriot Mobile idea, here's a great example. Creative destruction.

00:12:55.300 Creative destruction that people are like, oh, okay, well, I don't know. I've never heard

00:12:59.900 of, you know where they, they base this off of something that was started in California that

00:13:06.460 struggled for a long time. Same exact thing that was like, we're going to give some of

00:13:11.560 our profits to these crazy progressive groups. And it didn't use crazy. Yeah, I know. And

00:13:17.060 so it, it, it struggled for a long time, then took off and now is actually influencing elections

00:13:23.440 for the progressives. And so these guys got together and went, why can't we do that? Well,

00:13:28.760 they're just going through their growth stage. Now the same, same way. You just have to live

00:13:35.020 it. You have to say, you know what? I'm willing to, I'm willing to get the same service. I'm

00:13:41.120 willing to get all of the exact same coverage and everything else. And I'm willing to put

00:13:47.680 up with the switching over because I'm tired of, that's all you have to put up, all you

00:13:53.060 have to put up with. And that's a hard sell for people, but it's, even though they made

00:13:57.300 it really easy. I know. And a lot of these companies have done the same thing. Um, but it's

00:14:02.280 just hard to find them. And you just, a lot of times you don't know about, but when you

00:14:06.400 find them, you need to use them. If they really do do the same service or better you, that's

00:14:14.680 the way you make an impact. Okay. You got to support the pioneers that are doing the creative

00:14:21.080 destruction because without the creative destruction, without the new ones coming up, you're left with

00:14:28.200 nothing. You're left with nothing except a losing boycott because everybody's like, I'm

00:14:34.080 never going to, and they're doing it the very next day because it's, they like it. They like

00:14:41.000 it. If you believe in the free market, then you got to support the free market. You got

00:14:46.580 to find those, those entrepreneurs that are doing it and then just quietly use them. I will

00:14:53.540 tell you, my daughter has talked me into a lot of things, not by saying a word, just

00:14:59.080 by going, you got to be kidding me. Really? This you got and it's cheaper and it tastes

00:15:04.620 like this, or it does this or really? And it doesn't have any of these bad effects. Wow.

00:15:12.020 Okay. I'm in. That's a really good thing. Solar energy. Once solar energy starts to come

00:15:20.360 down in price, we'll all be solar energy nuts. Yeah. As long as it works and it's reliable.

00:15:26.900 Exactly right. Yeah. That's the only, we don't hate the environment. It just doesn't work.

00:15:31.780 We don't hate Christian movies. They just have sucked for so long. Well, once they start 1.00

00:15:38.160 to be good and they are, I'm there. I'm absolutely there. Yep. That's improved with unplanned and

00:15:45.420 breakthrough, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. That's a proven theory.

00:15:50.360 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:16:03.480 Hey, it's Glenn. And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray

00:16:07.960 Unleashed. His podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast. Tell me what's

00:16:14.080 the most important story of the week. The most important story of the week is that due process

00:16:21.080 in America is once again under siege. And this affects every single person. And I'm trying

00:16:29.300 to be the Paul Revere guy here to spread the word that somehow, and I really don't, I can't

00:16:35.900 really explain it other than blame it on the media. You know, we don't respect the presumption

00:16:42.500 of innocence anymore. Not even at the highest levels of government.

00:16:46.020 I was talking to a federal judge while I was on vacation, and he said, we judges need to

00:16:53.460 start coming out and hammering our own. He said, I am seeing things now come across my

00:16:57.820 bench. He said, where the Constitution, the law, nothing, nothing has gone into this decision

00:17:05.660 except what that judge felt was the right thing. And he said, we're developing a country that

00:17:12.860 is being ruled by feelings alone. And the rule of law is completely going out the window.

00:17:20.320 And I think that's what it is, is where it's just, we do it. We only care about how people

00:17:25.520 feel and what I feel and what feels right.

00:17:28.660 Yeah. Well, I think it's a, it's a dual problem. You got, you've got the activist judges and

00:17:35.440 everybody knows that, that any kind of an abortion question or challenge, you know, there's four

00:17:44.380 people on the Supreme court that are going to rule in favor of abortion, no matter what

00:17:48.560 it is. And that's wrong. Of course, the other side, you don't really know. You really don't

00:17:54.900 know. Uh, you know, Clarence Thomas, I think would be the most reliable against anything abortion, 0.99

00:18:00.920 but the others, you don't really know. Right. But what I'm talking about is the, uh, Mueller,

00:18:05.900 um, he sits there, he comes out, he sits there and this was all about cocktail parties. I'll

00:18:12.480 explain that in a moment. But the Mueller thing, he comes out, he goes, you know, I'm a prosecutor.

00:18:18.240 That's what I was hired to do. And I, and I investigated two years alleged, uh, crimes and

00:18:25.720 I really don't have any evidence. And I wrote a report for almost 500 pages that says I don't

00:18:32.640 really have any evidence. I mean, there were occurrences that things that happened, but nothing

00:18:39.780 that I can say was, uh, a criminal referral as judge started with bill Clinton 11 times, but I

00:18:49.400 don't have anything. So instead of just saying good night, everyone, thank you. I'll, um, see you,

00:18:56.420 uh, down the road. No, then he has to pivot and say, but my investigators can't say president

00:19:05.660 of Trump didn't do anything wrong. Right. That is so outrageous. That's not his job. That's the job

00:19:13.100 of CNN. That's their job. Okay. Not Mueller's job. And what Mueller did was he denied a fellow

00:19:20.240 American who happens to be the president due process. Well, he, he cloaked it. He cloaked it. 0.82

00:19:25.400 It was really fascinating. He cloaked it in the reason why I didn't say that he was guilty of a crime

00:19:33.440 is because there's no due process for him. So I care about due process. And in, because I couldn't

00:19:42.740 bring up a criminal charge, I'm not going to say he committed these crimes because then there was

00:19:47.880 nowhere to go with it. So, but that's false. That's false. I mean, you saw the star report

00:19:54.860 and, and yes, they have, uh, clarified what can and can't happen to a sitting president, but you can

00:20:01.640 still refer, you can refer. And then when Donald Trump leaves office, then he has to answer.

00:20:08.720 Well, but not only that, we all know that if he said, uh, that there was a crime committed,

00:20:16.980 then we know the process is then turn it over to Congress and he'll be impeached. So the question

00:20:24.880 is, or convene a grand jury. Correct. The problem here is, is why did we do this? If the answer was,

00:20:32.920 well, I can't tell you if a crime was committed or not. That wasn't the answer. He just made it up.

00:20:38.280 He just made it up. All right. That gave him cover. All right. So then let's get to the real

00:20:46.420 reason he did this. So he's a swamp creature, right? Robert Mueller. Would everybody agree

00:20:51.960 with that? Stu, are you still awake here? Would you agree? Barely, but yes, I would.

00:20:55.980 Mueller is a swamp creature. That means he makes his living in the Washington DC bureaucracy and always

00:21:02.320 has. Okay. Um, so he issues a report that said basically exonerates Donald Trump who the swamp

00:21:09.840 wants to kill. All right. And so all his swamp friends, they don't like that. So all of a sudden, 0.98

00:21:18.300 all the cocktail parties and the barbecues and the country club, I'll meet you. We'll have a drink.

00:21:26.000 We'll have a little dinner. That all stops. And he's got to get it back. And that's why he did what he

00:21:33.260 did. Now, hang on, hang on, hang on. You're crazy, O'Reilly. This, that, and the other thing.

00:21:40.240 I'm, this is the primary motivator for the liberal elite in America, socializing, being accepted at

00:21:51.020 the highest levels, being seen in the salons. That, that is everything to them. So I was,

00:21:59.780 Zach and I are never invited anywhere. Never. So we have to throw that in that we're jealous.

00:22:04.600 So, so Bill, let me ask you, let me ask you what it's about. Let me ask you this. I think you're

00:22:09.880 absolutely right. In fact, I know you're right on this. Thank you. Um, and I know how intoxicating

00:22:16.840 that is that when you are, when you're offered the opportunity to be part of the cool kid table,

00:22:25.320 we all know this from high school, it's enormously hard not to turn your back on that one weirdo friend

00:22:33.440 that you've had that you actually really like, but is really unpopular when the popular kids

00:22:39.400 want to try to include you in their club. That's the mean girl syndrome. Exactly. And you know, 0.99

00:22:46.980 it gets to the point where this infects and that's the word politicians, judges, especially news people

00:22:57.160 on television. Oh my God. They live for that invitation. Um, and it effect infects them so

00:23:05.760 that they can't be fair anymore. They have to tilt over to the cool kids. And that's what this

00:23:12.440 Mueller thing was all about. Now, do we have time for me to tell you about the phone call I got from

00:23:18.280 president Trump the night Mueller gave his address? Yes. Let me take one minute break and then we'll

00:23:23.820 come back with that. Bill O'Reilly. This is the Glenn Beck program. Bill O'Reilly, you got a phone call

00:23:36.600 from Donald Trump. Yes, because I'm wrapping up, uh, the United States of Trump, my book, my history

00:23:43.980 book on him that'll be out, um, on September 24th. And I needed to get one more, um, interview with the

00:23:54.560 president, particularly after the Mueller thing, the report and all of that. So, you know, he's not real

00:24:01.980 thrilled about this book anyway. Donald Trump is not because it goes way back and, and traces his

00:24:09.240 whole life and then explains how he did this amazing thing and how he's sitting in the white

00:24:14.240 house and who he really is and how he feels about his country. Really? Okay. So he doesn't know,

00:24:20.920 but he knows me a long time and he knows I'm going to tell the truth. Um, but he calls me. All right.

00:24:26.640 And it was nice of him to do it because I badgering his PR people going, look, I need to get a final

00:24:33.620 interview with him to wrap this book. And he calls me about, oh, 10, 15 at night, Eastern time.

00:24:40.380 He goes, why are you still up? I said, I'm like you, I'm a vampire. I never sleep. Um, so I talked to

00:24:46.680 him. Um, and the Mueller thing comes right up because that's what I wanted him. I, my basic question to

00:24:54.560 the president was, since you have gone through this for three years, being pounded into pudding

00:25:02.080 by the media and investigated in this, that, and the other thing, has your opinion of America changed?

00:25:08.000 Now I'm not going to give you his answer because I'm, I have it in the book, but I'm going to tell

00:25:13.620 you that he wailed on Mueller and he said that Mueller is, hates him, uses that word. He goes,

00:25:20.380 Mueller hates me. And I said, why would it, why would he hate you? And, and president Trump said,

00:25:26.680 because when I fired Comey, Mueller called me and asked for Comey's job as head of the FBI. And I

00:25:32.620 said, no, but it goes on back further. The president told me that he was in one of my golf clubs on the

00:25:41.420 Potomac river, and he was going to move out of the neighborhood and wanted his deposit back.

00:25:46.240 And I wouldn't give it to him because if I did that, I have to give it to everybody.

00:25:51.740 And I said, how much was he? He goes, $15,000. And I said, Mueller called you and you took the

00:25:57.380 call. He goes, yeah, I talked to him. And it was a quote, nasty conversation.

00:26:04.840 And that, and he says that Mueller hates me. He's always hated me. And that's now where he did what

00:26:10.460 he did today. Okay. So let me, let me ask you this question. Let me play devil's advocate.

00:26:15.080 Okay. The president has a pattern of saying, somebody called me for a job. Somebody called

00:26:23.920 me for help. And it's not always true. Okay. Well, what do you want me to do? Put him on a live

00:26:31.780 attack? Well, I just want to say, what he said to me, right? I, what I want to know is true or not.

00:26:37.660 That's, I don't know. How can you check it? Um, but the fact that he's saying he would look,

00:26:44.280 let's put it this way. I've known him 30 years. He's never told me a falsehood directly to me.

00:26:51.560 Okay. Ever. Cause that, I mean, that's all I can tell you, Bill, am I, uh, incorrect in believing

00:26:57.200 that this is somewhat big breaking news? Like, like this did, was this known before this phone

00:27:02.160 call? Like I did, I had never heard the story that he asked for the FBI job on billoreilly.com

00:27:07.920 with, which is the premier, uh, website, political website in the country. I'm a member. I know. Yeah.

00:27:13.680 So I, I did, I did do that. I'm a member too, but I always want to give you and Beck, you know,

00:27:19.700 some good stuff for your audience. Um, and, uh, I, I believe they're interested in that.

00:27:24.240 All right. Uh, so Bill, what happens, uh, what happens now? I mean, you were, you were here for

00:27:32.200 the impeachment of, you know, of, of Lincoln's successor. Uh, and, uh, you went through, you went

00:27:39.540 through Watergate, uh, and, and with Clinton. What, what, what, what do we, what is Congress going to

00:27:48.740 do now? Start their own hearings? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. Oh, I hate saying that.

00:27:58.120 Could be wrong, but I don't think so. Why? Um, because the independent voters, if you look at the

00:28:05.720 polling, most Americans do not want this dog and pony impeachment show based upon what we know now,

00:28:12.980 which is, you don't really have anything and the Senate will never convict. So why put the country

00:28:18.640 through this when we have vexing problems that need to be solved and you're not solving them? You're

00:28:23.980 not even trying to solve them. So that's Americans. They want Congress to solve problems. Okay. To put

00:28:32.200 the country in a more, uh, prosperous position. And you don't do that when you're drumming up

00:28:39.540 impeachment stuff. So the only people that are going to prosper from that are a cable TV news.

00:28:46.240 That's all. And I think that the Democrats really are fearful that if they do this,

00:28:54.940 independent voters will turn on the party. They'll lose the house. They'll lose the, um,

00:29:00.600 they'll never get the Senate back and then Trump will be reelected. So I think that's the overarching fear.

00:29:06.040 I said this, um, uh, the day that, um, Mueller came out and I said, uh, don't, don't fear impeachment

00:29:14.520 hearings, uh, because I think that works against. And in fact, if the economy starts to go down,

00:29:22.320 I think that actually would strengthen the president if they were in impeachment hearings,

00:29:27.200 because I remember bill, you know, this is before the blue dress came out. And I thought that

00:29:32.140 bill Clinton absolutely did all of those things and was lying. But there was this moment when he said,

00:29:38.160 I did not have sex with her, not one time. And I didn't tell anybody to lie. And I've got to get

00:29:45.260 back to work for the American people. There was even a part in me that said, wow, I mean, this is,

00:29:52.820 I mean, we do have other priorities. And I caught myself and I'm like, wait, wait, wait. But I think if

00:29:58.740 the economy, which has gone so well, if the economy was going and having problems and they were focused

00:30:05.200 on impeachment, I think that it actually could turn around because Trump would be saying, this is

00:30:12.500 nonsense. You've known it's nonsense and everything that we have to work on. They got me so tied down

00:30:20.660 on this impeachment stuff. I can't do the things I need to do. I think it actually would really,

00:30:27.120 really hurt them. Yeah. I mean, that's the fear of Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic Party. The other

00:30:32.680 thing is that the cable news ratings this week have not been strong, which has surprised me. I mean,

00:30:40.420 in general, they are deteriorating. The cable news networks are losing viewers and substantially.

00:30:46.420 But I figured, well, this week, you know, with all of the stuff going on,

00:30:51.000 you know, they're going to really go through, you know, go up because Mueller and everything like

00:30:58.880 that. Well, racial matter is getting hammered this week. They're not doing well. Demographically,

00:31:07.020 they're all getting killed. Last night, I had these numbers right in front of me. I'm reading them. 0.92

00:31:11.720 Not one cable news show did more than a half million, 25 to 54 viewers. Not one? Not one.

00:31:20.360 That means the folks have had enough, enough. Oh my gosh. Yeah. The two entities that Americans 0.86

00:31:31.460 are walking away from right now are the Russian collusion Mueller and Godzilla. Enough with Godzilla.

00:31:38.920 All right. I will take you on. I will take you on and take you down for that.

00:31:45.600 How many monsters have to wreck San Francisco? Never enough. There are never enough. 0.70

00:31:54.700 The Godzilla. I mean, look, I grew up making fun of Godzilla. I used to watch them for fun on

00:32:00.100 Saturdays. You were the guy in the rubber suit. I would have loved to have been the guy in the rubber

00:32:04.680 suit. They've always been horrible, but the last one and this one look tremendous. You're not going

00:32:11.360 to see Godzilla this week. Are you nuts? I mean, you were buying Matthew Broderick was running away 0.99

00:32:20.120 from a lizard. No, no, no. Not the Matthew Broderick. That's two Godzillas ago. That's two. The one 0.85

00:32:26.200 before this one. Brian Cranston. I can't keep track of them back. Oh yeah. Well.

00:32:30.960 There is a Pulitzer Prize winning author. He is, he's not a hack. He is not from the right. He is,

00:33:00.320 he has no reason to put this out or so you would think he would have no reason to put this out

00:33:07.000 about Martin Luther King. If it weren't true, he is the, the guy who is the expert on Martin

00:33:14.880 Luther King. He is embraced by everybody on the left and everybody who's a King fan. This is the

00:33:22.340 ultimate biography of Martin Luther King. He wrote it in the eighties. Now he has just come out

00:33:29.560 with a document that says that the government has a tape. It has not been released, but it has been

00:33:37.000 heard. Well, it has, there's a memo describing it written by the FBI. Right. That he has. The FBI

00:33:44.500 has heard it. Yes. And they trans, they transcribed and summarized it. Correct. And he has that memo. So

00:33:50.020 it hasn't been heard by anybody today that we know of. This is just a memo that is showing what tapes

00:33:57.760 they have on Martin Luther King. We know that J Edgar Hoover was making tapes of Martin Luther

00:34:03.600 King. Kennedy and Johnson were, were spying on King, uh, because Hoover thought that he was a

00:34:10.180 communist and also thought he was very low of moral character. Um, now these things have all always

00:34:17.320 been denied. Well, the moral character one, there's been evidence of, right? I mean, you know,

00:34:23.540 in the story it talks about how they thought he had 10 to 12 mistresses throughout his life and they

00:34:29.380 think now the number is more like 40 or 45. It's a lot. Okay. It keeps you busy. Now, the question

00:34:38.040 that you should ask is, because we don't know if this tape, until this tape is released in 2027,

00:34:45.440 and I would urge for history's sake, that that tape is released if it exists or any other tapes are

00:34:53.100 released long before 2027. In fact, in the next 18 to two years, 18 months to two years, because

00:35:01.160 digital audio deep fakes are not good yet. By 2027, you will not believe your eyes and you will not

00:35:10.140 believe your ears. So any audio tape after, after really 2020, 2022, you're not going to believe it

00:35:18.040 will, it won't make any impact. So if you want to know if this is true, that tape and any other tapes

00:35:25.200 like it for anything should be released now, uh, because we don't have the technology to fake them

00:35:32.560 yet. Why would this guy do this? This guy is a celebrated leftist. This

00:35:39.960 puts him in the outs and you could say, well, he just wants to tell the truth. Okay. Maybe,

00:35:45.400 maybe so. Maybe so. When did he get this memo? Who gave this memo to him? And who is he?

00:35:56.540 Now we know that he's been a, a, a lefty, but what does that mean? In his own words, he is a,

00:36:07.160 uh, what did he call himself? A quintessential Bernie Sanders donor. Um, and he said he is

00:36:15.540 also a democratic socialist and has been at times an enthusiastic participator in democratic socialism.

00:36:26.000 Okay. This is the author. This is the author that has released this information.

00:36:32.040 Why would you release this information? Why would you release this information now? Well, what is

00:36:38.820 democratic socialism? Democratic socialism, uh, for it to come true, several things have to happen,

00:36:47.800 but one, you must destroy anyone who talks about the individual democratic socialists. It is not about

00:36:57.840 the individual. It is about the collective. What is the, the hardest thing for a socialist to get

00:37:05.820 around or any of these people who are, or, or, or talking about social justice. Now, the way it's

00:37:12.620 interpreted today, the biggest obstacle they have is Martin Luther King, because he is still for

00:37:20.880 individual salvation, content of character content. Judge me by the content of my character, not the

00:37:29.000 color of my skin. And I see a day when blacks and whites can play together. Okay. That's his message.

00:37:37.220 Well, that's a very conservative message, quite frankly. Today, especially. Yes. His, his message of

00:37:44.200 America, live up to your founding documents. All men are created equal and endowed by their creator with

00:37:51.360 certain rights. That is not a democratic socialist message, nor is it helpful to those who are democratic

00:37:58.800 socialists. You must destroy that, but you have to destroy it in such a spectacular way. Now,

00:38:06.760 think of this. If this is true, that tape was released that he watched and laughed as a rape

00:38:13.880 was going on as it was going on. If he was saying these horrible, horrible things to a woman in an

00:38:21.460 orgy, is he a guy we have a Martin Luther King day for? Is he a guy we have statues for boulevards named 0.96

00:38:29.840 after? That's a really bad guy. If you're going to pull down statues of people from 1800, you've got

00:38:38.240 to pull down a guy from 1960 because 1960 was not about that either. At least that's not what we were

00:38:44.460 told he was about. And I'm sure you can find many civil rights activists that did not participate in

00:38:49.960 rapes. Exactly right. So you could, you can have a holiday still about some civil rights activist, 1.00

00:38:54.800 but can you have a holiday for a guy who watched a rape on tape? And laughed? And laughed about it?

00:39:01.100 I don't know if he can. Can you have statues for that person? I don't know if he can. Even though

00:39:07.360 you can still say what he said was good, you cannot hold him up to be, you can hold his words up,

00:39:14.780 but you cannot hold him up to be that guy. What they have to do is destroy him and his words.

00:39:25.400 And that's the problem. They don't just destroy Thomas Jefferson. They destroy his words.

00:39:30.740 Right. And because he was such a bad person, all of his words are disqualified from being positive.

00:39:35.780 Correct. And to your point here, listen to this quote from the author. He said,

00:39:37.840 the new information quote poses so fundamental a challenge to his historical stature

00:39:43.440 as to require the most complete and extensive historical review possible.

00:39:48.920 I mean, he, that is a, I mean, that is like, if this is true, and again, we don't 100% know that

00:39:57.200 it is though. It was in FBI documents and there's apparently a tape set showing that he actually did

00:40:02.980 this. If it's clear on tape, I mean, can the American people stand by and say, allow that to go on?

00:40:09.860 You know, you take a Martin Luther King day, a national holiday.

00:40:13.880 And what does that do for, what does that do to African Americans?

00:40:17.300 I mean, you think Bill, the Bill Cosby thing was jarring, right? Like he hears a guy who's a popular

00:40:22.180 sitcom host in the eighties and, or, or like a, a really popular singer in the, the King of Pop.

00:40:28.060 He had his issues. This guy's like the guy when it comes to civil rights in the United States of

00:40:34.580 America. And, uh, I would say a rape is a violation of civil rights. I'm going to go out

00:40:40.380 and say it. I think it is. Uh, so it's going to be difficult to hold if that tape exists and it is

00:40:46.620 as, as described in this story and multiple others, it's almost incomprehensible. You'd have

00:40:54.720 a holiday for that person. I mean, so here's the, so that is the story. That's the story.

00:41:00.320 But here's the real story behind that. Why now? Who leaked that? How did it get to him? When did it

00:41:11.680 get to him? Why is he an honest broker or is he a democratic socialist, uh, who is a strong activist

00:41:20.460 who understands you've got to destroy him? Is this part of a movement of destroying, uh, all of our

00:41:28.820 heroes and turning everything upside down and inside out? I think it is. I think it

00:41:36.560 is. Think about losing Martin Luther King. African Americans have had all of their heroes taken 0.99

00:41:46.340 away. All of their heroes have been taken away. Now Martin Luther King is destroyed, not, not

00:41:56.000 marginalized, destroyed. Yeah. How does that leave the African American looking at history?

00:42:04.380 Is there anyone? Is there anyone they can look up to in American history? Or that a white guy

00:42:10.820 won't destroy, right? Yes. Here's a white guy bringing out all this information with probably 0.94

00:42:14.680 white FBI agents and everything else. I mean, it's going to be hard not to look at that. This is not

00:42:19.860 good. No, this is not good. And I just don't know how you ignore it. You know, I don't know how you

00:42:25.520 look at a story like this. If it's true, you can't just ignore it. You can't just. Well, the media has.

00:42:31.340 The media pretty much has. Yeah. I mean, I, there's definitely been coverage of it, but you're, it

00:42:36.060 hasn't been, it hasn't been as big a story as you would think. I mean, certainly if this story came

00:42:40.920 out about some, uh, conservative religious figure, uh, that was, this came out about Billy Graham,

00:42:46.400 right? There were tapes on Billy Graham. Can you imagine what they'd be doing to Billy Graham?

00:42:50.880 Oh my gosh. Uh, and, and I think they just don't know what to do with it. People like Jim Baker for

00:42:56.360 having an affair. They destroyed the guy. But remember, remember, this is coming from the left,

00:43:04.000 not the Democrats from the democratic socialist. This is coming from a guy who says, I'm in with the

00:43:12.080 Bernie Sanders crew. Who did we introduce you to last night with Bernie Sanders crew? What picture

00:43:20.280 are you starting to see about who Bernie Sanders surrounds himself with? You have to watch that

00:43:26.000 episode. If you didn't see it last night, you want to understand this Martin Luther King thing and see

00:43:30.340 how it might fit in. You look at this guy's credentials, what he says about how a big supporter

00:43:36.360 he is of Bernie Sanders. And you then drop in this piece. And all of a sudden you start to understand

00:43:42.940 exactly what's happening in our society.

00:43:50.560 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:43:53.220 Hey, it's Glenn. And I want to tell you about something that you should either end your day

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00:44:31.620 good friend, uh, and coworker of mine. Uh, Mark Levin, welcome to the program. How are you, sir?

00:44:38.460 Glenn Beck. Good. How are you? I am great. Mark, I have to tell you, I was up on vacation. I bought

00:44:43.180 your book and I bought the audio book and, um, I'm down. I downloaded it last Tuesday. Um, and I'm,

00:44:50.060 I was painting for the day and I put my earbuds in and lo and behold, about five o'clock in the

00:44:56.240 afternoon, I stopped and, uh, I've been painting in my family keeps walking in and out of the room.

00:45:02.400 And as I pull my earbuds off, they're all laughing at me. And I said, what? And they said,

00:45:07.300 we have really enjoyed you today, dad. And I said, uh, okay, how? I mean, we haven't even talked to

00:45:14.040 each other. And they said all day long, we've been listening to you go, uh-huh. Yes. Yes.

00:45:22.020 Finally. Yes. Whoa. Huh? I didn't know that. Wow. And it was all me commenting on your book the

00:45:31.980 entire day. Really, really well written, really well written and a lot of great information. So

00:45:38.360 congratulations on your number one status. The name of the book is Unfreedom of the Press. Mark,

00:45:44.220 tell me, tell the audience why this is not just a, why this is a book that is, that transcends

00:45:52.480 today's politics. First of all, you're very kind. Now you're painting paintings or are you painting

00:45:58.280 the walls? No, I'm painting paintings. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I call them 10-hour memes. But

00:46:04.400 I'll send you some stuff. I would love to see them. Yeah. Thanks. First of all, you're very

00:46:09.260 kind and I very much appreciate it. The question was, I think, why did I write this book? Well,

00:46:16.280 look, the reason it transcends politics is because it's about the Constitution and the Constitution

00:46:22.140 transcends politics. The Constitution's about our rights and our liberties and protecting them.

00:46:28.880 And so, you know, Glenn, I've written a lot about the Constitution and American history and

00:46:32.740 philosophy. And I said, you know what? One area I don't know a lot about is the history of the press.

00:46:38.680 And they're in our face. They're in our living room. They're in our bedrooms. They are berating us.

00:46:44.200 They are propagandizing to us. They're wrapping themselves in the First Amendment. I think I need

00:46:48.500 to get to the bottom of this. And so I did what I always do. I said to my wife, I'll see you in about 16 months.

00:46:54.940 So you have no idea what she said to me. One day when we meet, she'll tell you.

00:47:02.200 So anyway, so that means nights and weekends. And that's what I do. You know, some people play golf or

00:47:08.300 whatever. This is what I do. So I dug in the history of the media. It's not a history book,

00:47:14.420 but some of that's necessary. So we have perspective. We have the Patriot Press before the revolution,

00:47:20.540 before the revolution with the printers, you know, moving the printing presses, being chased by the

00:47:24.620 British. And they were really unique in the original Patriots because they are the ones who 0.66

00:47:30.280 push the ideas of the Enlightenment. They are the ones who push the ideas of Aristotle and Cicero and

00:47:35.380 Locke. Right. And they were spreading them among the colonists. And, you know, Obama talks about

00:47:41.560 fundamental transformation. They didn't want to fundamentally transform society or human nature.

00:47:46.420 They wanted to fundamentally transform government. They were living under a tyranny. They wanted

00:47:51.320 representation. They didn't like big taxes. They didn't like to be pushed around by government.

00:47:56.060 They believed in property rights, all these things that you and I and our audiences believe in.

00:48:00.340 And so they pushed a revolution. And the word got out. You know, there were about three dozen

00:48:06.400 newspapers. That's it. There were several hundred pamphlets and pamphleteers. And word would get

00:48:11.960 out slowly. And this information would be published and people would discuss it. They discuss it in

00:48:17.040 their pubs at home and so forth. Frankly, much like we do on talk radio. This is really a unique

00:48:23.120 format because there's really no other national format where this occurs, but they would do it

00:48:27.300 at a local level. And so just to jump quickly, you have the revolution. And soon after the revolution,

00:48:33.740 you had the party press.

00:48:34.800 This is this is the part of the book that I found really fascinating because you point

00:48:42.020 out the people knew when you got the Democratic ledger, you knew what it was, that it was an

00:48:51.420 organ for it was that point of view coming at you. And so you could read the Democrat and

00:48:57.520 you could read the Republican and you'd balance them yourselves. They weren't masquerading as

00:49:03.480 fair and balanced.

00:49:06.280 No. In fact, in some cases, publishers and editors were on the payroll of the post office

00:49:11.120 or something like that, depending on the administration. It was a very rough period for

00:49:15.460 the press, but they were very honest about who they were, as you point out. You have papers

00:49:20.020 today, the Arkansas Democrat Gazette, the Arizona Republic was the Arizona Republican. So they

00:49:25.420 were they were full throated about candidates, parties, causes they supported. And then you move

00:49:30.240 through and I passed the yellow journalism period because it's not that interesting. And then

00:49:34.120 you move through to the early part of the last century, the progressive movement of which

00:49:39.060 you're well familiar. The progressive movement was ubiquitous. They they really it is a poison

00:49:46.120 that spread into all aspects of our society. And John Dewey is, you know, one of the intellectuals

00:49:50.600 behind that movement. Yep.

00:49:51.960 He focused specifically on schooling and the media. And just so the audience understands,

00:49:58.660 the purpose here, as typical, was to have a relative handful of people determine what

00:50:04.120 news is, digest it, analyze it, interpret it, and then burp it up for the rest of us.

00:50:08.400 You've really you really captured the progressive disease really well in explaining it.

00:50:14.120 You know, it's funny. I was attacked in the Washington Post yesterday, and I love these guys

00:50:17.900 because they prove the point of the book. And I take my time going through their attack

00:50:21.300 on me, which is usually personal. I don't really care. But they do exactly what I say

00:50:26.060 in the book. They are exactly, as I say in the book, because they are who they are.

00:50:30.320 And and and so you have people, Lippmann and others, saying at the time that people are 1.00

00:50:35.200 too busy or they're too stupid. So we'll figure this stuff out. This this went on for a while. 1.00

00:50:40.320 And then you get up to a few decades ago where on top of that, they added social activism.

00:50:45.640 They call themselves public press or community press. And they've really bought into, you

00:50:52.520 know, Alinsky tactics and these other tactics of the hard left. It's being pushed in journalism

00:50:57.140 school. A lot of these guys haven't gone to journalism school. They come out of the Democrat

00:51:01.480 Party, come out of an administration or this is their mindset regardless. And so today what

00:51:06.840 we're getting on TV is a one party press rather than a two party press that is pushing the

00:51:13.660 progressive agenda and social activism. That's why there's not a dime's worth of difference

00:51:18.760 between most of the media and the Democrat Party today. They're just honest to God. And

00:51:24.780 in the first chapter, I show you the surveys. I show you the research. I show you the professors.

00:51:29.840 I show you some of the reports, what they're saying. There's not there's very little diversity

00:51:33.840 in newsrooms today. There's very little diversity in reporting today. You can predict what they're

00:51:38.680 going to say. The only debate on the left in the media today really is, do we come out and

00:51:43.880 say who we are like a lot of them are doing now? Yes. We're liberals. We're progressives. And thank

00:51:47.840 God for us. Thank God we know what the news is. Or there wouldn't have been a civil rights movement

00:51:52.080 or, you know, climate change issue. So they really believe they are the truth tellers.

00:51:58.180 And then the other side, like the New York Times today saying, well, you know, we don't want all of

00:52:01.760 our people on measly CNN and MSNBC because they have a different view, which is, yes, we're all

00:52:07.060 those things, but we really don't want to admit it. Correct. Because we're the paper of record,

00:52:10.940 you know. And they're not. They're just they they live in these circles that allow them to believe

00:52:21.500 that they are the fair and balanced one, that they are the well, no, we're just we are the paper

00:52:27.920 of record. They live in those circles and they don't they don't care to me. In fact, I think

00:52:32.960 they despise most of the people that live in the center of the country or have different points

00:52:37.260 of view. And so it's just a self-fulfilling label for them. You are exactly right. Most of them live

00:52:44.720 in the same areas, generally, you know, within a 40, 50 mile radius of Washington or New York,

00:52:49.140 most of them. Even the new so-called left wing reporters live in mostly blue Hillary Clinton 0.96

00:52:55.780 counties. Studies have been done on this. They self-identify as either Democrat or liberal in

00:53:02.240 large numbers. The last survey showed about four percent identifying as conservatives.

00:53:08.140 It's much like universities where faculty hire faculty. So they pick the same ideological

00:53:12.840 ideology that people share and take them out of the same Ivy League schools. It's a lot of that is

00:53:19.260 the same. But the New York Times I focused on in particular because this is held up as the gold

00:53:24.340 standard. And the gold standard isn't worth crap. And I go back and do the history of the 0.97

00:53:30.480 New York Times during the Holocaust and the history of the New York Times when Stalin was

00:53:35.160 wiping out the Ukrainians. And when you look at this, that's the part where my family was hearing

00:53:39.580 me go. Yes, yes, finally. Yes. And you know what, Glenn? If you read that chapter, you will never

00:53:45.920 view the New York Times the same again. No. The New York Times. And I, you know, I pulled from

00:53:51.160 some of the greatest scholars on this subject. During the Holocaust, the New York Times did 0.87

00:53:56.080 everything it could to bury the Holocaust in the back pages of its newspaper. The New York Times did 0.93

00:54:01.280 this for several reasons. Number one, FDR wanted to tamp down the focus on the Holocaust. The New York

00:54:07.180 Times liked FDR, liked the New Deal agenda. Number two, I'm Jewish. It was owned by a Jewish family.

00:54:13.580 They didn't want the New York Times to be viewed mostly as a niche Jewish newspaper. So they felt that

00:54:18.980 they really shouldn't focus on the Holocaust. The owner, the publisher, Sulzberger, was sort of a

00:54:25.460 secular Jew. And he didn't like these Jewish organizations in New York lobbying him for a

00:54:30.700 Jewish state. And that kind of turned him off. And all of that was poured into the pages or poured 0.94

00:54:37.320 into the mindset of the New York Times. So while the European Jews are being wiped out, whole towns,

00:54:43.820 the Jews are missing, it's being reported in European newspapers and eyewitnesses, they would

00:54:49.720 have none of it. And it wasn't until 1944, where the vast majority of the American people were

00:54:56.040 informed of the extent of the extermination of the Jews during the Holocaust. Now ask yourself this,

00:55:03.580 is there any other business that could survive having done that and be called the paper of record?

00:55:09.900 No. It is a disgrace. And they come up with these weasel-worded so-called apologies about it.

00:55:18.920 And then you look 10 years earlier, they had a guy, Walter Durante, who was their correspondent for

00:55:24.120 12 years in Moscow. He was in Stalin's back pocket. And Stalin decides that these darn Ukrainian 0.98

00:55:31.140 peasants will not buckle to my commune ideology. So rather than shooting one at a time, he decides 0.99

00:55:37.740 to wipe out the entire population if he can. He cuts off the Ukraine from all communication, 0.99

00:55:43.060 all transportation, all food and water. These poor people are cannibalizing each other. Solzhenitsyn 1.00

00:55:49.260 talks about the Ukrainians trying to get into the gulag to try to get some food late at night. They

00:55:55.240 could hear them at the gates. A couple of British reporters go in from the Manchester Guardian. They

00:56:00.480 see it. They report it. Mr. Durante, on the payroll of the New York Times, said it's not

00:56:07.460 happening. You know, they're having a harvest issue. They're just working out the stuff. And

00:56:11.600 as far as Stalin goes, you know that old saying, sometimes you got to break a few eggs? That comes

00:56:16.460 from him. He wrote that in an article for the New York Times. He trashed the British journalists who

00:56:22.520 were reporting on what was taking place. The executives at the New York Times had to know. And you know,

00:56:28.280 he got a Pulitzer Prize, and they still haven't given back the Pulitzer Prize for this. This is

00:56:33.140 what I point out. So when you see the New York Times when the Hamas is shooting missiles in the

00:56:36.680 Tel Aviv, and somehow the New York Times is defending Hamas and trashing Israel. It's nothing new.

00:56:42.040 Nothing new. And when they run these Holocaust-like cartoons, oh, they got by our editor. You know,

00:56:47.460 a lot has gotten by your editor, as a matter of fact. I want the people to know, that's the New

00:56:52.880 York Times. Mark Levin is the author of the number one New York Times bestseller.

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 31, 2019

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