The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Bill O'Reilly, Rabbi Daniel Lapin, Andrew Heaton & Jonathon Dunne ｜ 2⧸22⧸19

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the podcast. It is Friday. We have a great podcast for you tomorrow with Rabbi Daniel Lappin.

00:00:07.460 It's a 90-minute sit-down that, you know, uninterrupted, really fascinating, fascinating look at socialism, America, capitalism, how we move forward as people.

00:00:19.180 That is on tomorrow. You can check it out wherever you get podcasts or on TheBlazeTV.com slash Beck.

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00:00:27.780 I would use Beck if you're going to sign up.

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00:00:31.040 You know, what's interesting about today's show is that we kind of started where we ended.

00:00:37.220 We started first with Bernie Sanders and socialism and his praise, and we have a few theories on where that's coming from.

00:00:45.220 But then kind of turned to the Declaration of Independence and why that's so important.

00:00:51.180 That's where we ended the show, but we ended it with Jonathan Dunn, Freedom's disciple.

00:00:55.460 He's a guy from Ireland who is so well-spoken on why we're exceptional.

00:01:00.800 Not great, why we're exceptional.

00:01:02.960 He's great, and in between those, we had Bill O'Reilly and Bernie Sanders on.

00:01:06.380 Yeah, it's a podcast you don't want to miss.

00:01:08.800 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:20.120 So, you know, you've got the really exciting, the dynamic, I would call him a dynamo myself, Bernie Sanders, now running for president.

00:01:34.880 And there seems to be a lot of...

00:01:36.340 Do you, what?

00:01:37.320 Do you want to maybe stop and say that he's going to be on the show today?

00:01:39.600 That would be a good time to...

00:01:40.540 I'm sorry, you're right, you're right, you're right.

00:01:41.960 When you're right, you're right.

00:01:43.240 Bernie Sanders is going to be joining us on the show.

00:01:45.100 Is that hour number three?

00:01:46.480 Yes.

00:01:46.900 Yeah, top of the hour of hour number three of today's broadcast.

00:01:50.460 Wanted to talk to him for a long time.

00:01:52.460 Would never come on.

00:01:54.200 Really, I seriously would like to talk to him because I have respect that he is open and honest about what he says.

00:02:01.700 I mean, what he believes.

00:02:02.420 There was an incident on the socials last night, Glenn, where Alyssa Milano... 1.00

00:02:07.520 Oh my gosh.

00:02:08.380 ...noted brainiac and genius Alyssa Milano... 0.92

00:02:11.640 Yes.

00:02:12.000 ...pointed out that democratic socialism isn't real, just a trick.

00:02:16.640 ...by Republicans to scare you into not voting for Democrats because you're going to think they're socialists.

00:02:23.180 Now, the people who have identified themselves as democratic socialists, I'm not exactly sure what they say about that.

00:02:30.000 They don't exist.

00:02:31.640 They don't exist.

00:02:32.900 It's like someone calling himself a unicorn.

00:02:35.680 Yes.

00:02:36.260 Muppets and maybe CGI.

00:02:39.420 I'm not sure.

00:02:39.860 They're deep fakes.

00:02:40.640 They're deep fakes.

00:02:41.280 Okay.

00:02:41.640 For sure, we know that.

00:02:42.600 They might be Muppets. 0.84

00:02:43.420 You could convince me that Bernie Sanders is just an automatron...

00:02:48.640 No, you could convince me that he is the Muppet up in the balcony.

00:02:52.060 Oh, yeah.

00:02:53.160 Oh, yeah.

00:02:53.460 Except he wouldn't...

00:02:54.720 Isn't that too elitist for him?

00:02:56.300 Yeah, he wouldn't be.

00:02:57.000 He wouldn't be down with the people.

00:02:58.020 He would say, we shouldn't sell these tickets to other people.

00:03:00.240 I will hold on to this lakefront property or balcony for now until socialism fully kicks in.

00:03:06.480 So we can all share in the wealth.

00:03:08.740 Yeah.

00:03:08.960 Right.

00:03:09.320 Okay.

00:03:09.700 So here is the conundrum that I face today.

00:03:14.920 All of this stuff is coming out negative about Bernie Sanders.

00:03:18.620 And I think Republicans are pretty thrilled that Bernie Sanders is running yet again.

00:03:26.220 I think this is a very exciting thing to see that Bernie Sanders is going to be...

00:03:36.760 Has even the possibility of being the top of the ticket.

00:03:40.140 So what?

00:03:41.260 He's probably the frontrunner right now.

00:03:43.040 Right.

00:03:43.460 Well, he is in fundraising and things like that.

00:03:45.620 And polling.

00:03:46.420 Yeah.

00:03:46.560 So there's no reason for anybody to torpedo him.

00:03:50.720 You should celebrate him.

00:03:53.380 But yet there are all these leaks of all this old news that's coming out.

00:03:58.300 And I'm wondering who would release that?

00:04:02.340 Who would have the motivation to go and do all the wet works now on Bernie Sanders?

00:04:09.540 This is the latest.

00:04:12.760 Here is Bernie Sanders in 1987.

00:04:16.560 For some reason, I was being very excited when Fidel Castro made the revolution in Cuba.

00:04:21.840 I was a kid and I remember reading that.

00:04:23.760 And it just seemed right and appropriate that poor people were rising up against rather ugly rich people.

00:04:29.380 Ugly rich people.

00:04:30.140 Again, very distinctly, a very distinct feeling.

00:04:32.780 I was watching the debates.

00:04:33.900 You remember the famous Nixon-Kennedy debates?

00:04:35.920 That was the first time the presidential candidates actually debated.

00:04:39.260 And I was becoming increasingly interested in politics.

00:04:41.480 Didn't know much, but was interesting.

00:04:42.600 I remember sitting in the student lounge at our dormitory watching the debate.

00:04:45.680 And at that time, we can talk about Cuba now.

00:04:48.800 I was very excited and impressed by the Cuban revolution.

00:04:51.260 Even the Democrats weren't excited by the Cuban revolution.

00:04:56.780 Now, here he is in 1988.

00:05:00.460 He was impressed by the revolution that the poor people would rise up and get rid of the ugly rich guys.

00:05:06.680 And now, in 1988, he sees the fruit of the revolution of 1919 in the Soviet Union.

00:05:14.960 Most of the people here also were extremely impressed by their public transportation system.

00:05:21.460 The stations themselves were absolutely beautiful, including many works of art, chandeliers that were beautiful.

00:05:28.320 It was a very, very effective system.

00:05:30.120 Also, I was impressed by the youth programs that they have, their palaces of culture for the young people,

00:05:38.540 a whole variety of programs for young people, and cultural programs, which go far beyond what we do in this country.

00:05:46.660 We went to a theater in Yaroslavl, which was absolutely beautiful, had three separate stages.

00:05:53.500 Their cultural programs are put on by professional actors and actresses, including a puppeteer area.

00:05:59.280 And the cost, the highest price of the ticket that you can get, was the equivalent of $1.50.

00:06:04.320 Oh, my gosh.

00:06:05.440 Wouldn't that be wonderful?

00:06:06.920 Now, the gulags and the torture and the cries of the oppressed and, you know, the millions that were killed.

00:06:15.040 But have you seen the chandelier?

00:06:16.400 I mean, I hate rich people and their opulence.

00:06:18.880 But as long as the people have a chandelier in their subway system, and it was beautiful, it was gorgeous.

00:06:24.500 You didn't see it.

00:06:25.620 I didn't.

00:06:26.040 I mean, there's a cost-benefit analysis to everything.

00:06:28.060 And, I mean, for me, a chandelier at a train station, worth about $400,000 or $500,000 dead.

00:06:34.580 If I can get one chandelier per $400,000, I've starved to death in the fields or executed as they tried to get potatoes, I think that's about the right ratio.

00:06:44.300 Some people might say it's a little lower and a little higher.

00:06:46.240 That's the debate.

00:06:47.100 Right.

00:06:47.280 I would like to have more than one chandelier, and I also want these great youth programs because I was very impressed with their youth programs.

00:06:54.360 You know, when they're turning their parents into the KGB? 0.65

00:06:58.440 That's one of the youth programs.

00:06:59.520 That's one of the youth programs.

00:07:00.620 I love that.

00:07:01.680 I love that, too.

00:07:02.380 I love that.

00:07:02.740 And to me, a good youth program, you're talking $1.2 million, $1.3 million dead.

00:07:08.300 I'd trade, you know, let's say it's after-school basketball.

00:07:11.480 That's about $1.6 million for me.

00:07:12.840 If you get a theater with three stages at a puppet theater, I might go to $2 million dead for that.

00:07:17.280 Really?

00:07:17.660 Yeah, I think that's about...

00:07:18.520 And the chandeliers?

00:07:19.100 Well, if you put the chandelier in the building, I'm at $2.5 million.

00:07:23.200 Yeah, $2.5 million.

00:07:23.840 I'm at $2.5 million.

00:07:24.620 Well, we could debate on $2, $2, $2, $3, $2 million, how many million have to die.

00:07:29.780 But I was impressed by this.

00:07:31.960 This guy is a nightmare.

00:07:34.200 This guy's a nightmare.

00:07:35.820 He's terrifying as a president of the United States.

00:07:38.520 I have to tell you, I don't know.

00:07:45.340 Woodrow Wilson, here's what happened.

00:07:46.940 Woodrow Wilson was that kind of guy.

00:07:49.500 He was that kind of guy.

00:07:50.660 He was the kind of guy who was like, yeah, well, you know, you're going to have to kill

00:07:53.420 a few people.

00:07:54.080 You're going to have to kill a few people.

00:07:55.200 We have to put a few people behind bars. 0.94

00:07:57.020 We'll have to do it because it's the right thing for the state.

00:08:00.380 For the collective.

00:08:01.220 Yeah, for the collective.

00:08:01.940 And so that scared the American people so much that they backed away and we got the

00:08:11.120 roaring 20s.

00:08:12.000 We went with Harding and then Coolidge and we got the roaring 20s.

00:08:16.860 And so they had to soften everything after that.

00:08:20.980 And we didn't have any kind of reemergence of the progressive until the Great Depression.

00:08:26.140 So I've been waiting to see what our bottom is.

00:08:30.780 And I don't think we're going to hit our bottom.

00:08:32.740 I really don't.

00:08:34.260 Our bottom has not come yet.

00:08:36.120 There's not enough pain for the American people.

00:08:38.120 It's the line in the Declaration of Independence.

00:08:40.160 And I can't remember it.

00:08:41.720 Look up the Declaration of Independence for me real quick.

00:08:45.840 But there's a line in it that says, basically, people will suffer all kinds of oppression.

00:08:50.920 Let's just keep going.

00:08:52.140 Because they would rather have the known than the possible pain of a switch of the unknown.

00:08:59.620 And so they just get worse and worse and worse and worse.

00:09:02.980 But then there comes a point to where they're like, okay, I've had enough.

00:09:05.400 And they rise up.

00:09:07.760 Do you realize how fast this is going to happen if we allow it to happen?

00:09:13.680 It could happen in 2020 that they completely redesigned this country and flip the entire

00:09:21.720 constitution upside down.

00:09:23.860 That we lose the free market system.

00:09:26.380 Now, as long as we don't lose the vote, as long as we don't lose true representation,

00:09:32.640 which is always the first thing that people do, as long as we don't lose that,

00:09:38.160 we might be able to turn it back around and set it right.

00:09:42.820 Might.

00:09:44.060 Might.

00:09:45.160 We did it before under Wilson.

00:09:47.420 We might be able to do it.

00:09:48.980 The difference between Wilson and today is infrastructure.

00:09:52.900 Wilson didn't have the universities.

00:09:56.980 He didn't have the media.

00:09:58.900 He didn't have the government infrastructure.

00:10:01.960 He didn't have Department of Homeland Security and all of these things.

00:10:06.420 They had to do it from the outside.

00:10:09.260 And that's why it was easily shut down in the next election.

00:10:12.940 I don't think it goes back.

00:10:14.680 I don't think it goes back.

00:10:16.200 I think once you flip this system upside down, it calcifies because there's so many employees now.

00:10:26.420 And in one term, the federal government would grow at an exponential rate.

00:10:32.900 Yeah.

00:10:33.200 I mean, think about Bernie Sanders.

00:10:35.260 Let's say he wins the nomination, which is a possibility.

00:10:37.780 I still don't find it to be the most likely possibility, but he's the current frontrunner.

00:10:42.420 Yeah, but he's going to, they'll count him out just because of, the Democrats will destroy him.

00:10:47.000 And remember, too, Sanders is a little bit different than some of the other candidates who believe in socialism.

00:10:52.640 In that he is an ideologue, not a politician, number one.

00:10:57.180 And number two, he's 493 years old and has nothing to lose.

00:11:00.640 He's not the type of guy who's playing for the future here of his political life.

00:11:05.840 He's playing for the future of I want socialism in this country.

00:11:08.480 He's a disruptor.

00:11:09.120 Right.

00:11:09.420 He's a disruptor.

00:11:10.220 He comes in, wins that nomination.

00:11:12.500 In that scenario, if he actually wins the presidency, they absolutely are holding onto the House and they're definitely taking the Senate.

00:11:19.520 Can they get to 60 votes in the Senate?

00:11:21.400 Probably not.

00:11:22.280 However, as we've seen over the last two cycles here, each side has taken another thing that used to have to be 60 votes.

00:11:30.640 And change it into 50.

00:11:32.040 You've seen the Democrats did it with judges.

00:11:34.300 Republicans did it with Supreme Court this time. 0.78

00:11:36.260 And Donald Trump has said many times that he thinks the filibuster should go away so he can get things done.

00:11:42.240 The fact that Trump has said that, you're telling me Sanders isn't going to get in there and make that same argument?

00:11:46.740 And if they can get that through, then they'll pass all of this crap.

00:11:50.500 Listen, this is why this is happening to the Democrats.

00:11:52.920 Why has the socialism train all of a sudden just picked up?

00:11:57.940 It's like, you know, in Back to the Future 2, is that the one where it's the Wild West?

00:12:05.560 That's 3, isn't it?

00:12:06.580 That's 3.

00:12:07.080 Okay.

00:12:07.320 So, and remember, they throw those logs into the train and they throw that last bundle and that's what gets it up to 88 miles an hour.

00:12:14.620 It's as if the Democrats or the Democratic Socialists have thrown that last bundle in and all of a sudden we are hyperspeed to the cliff.

00:12:24.140 Does it not feel that way?

00:12:25.920 Why did that happen?

00:12:27.640 What caused that?

00:12:28.880 Bill O'Reilly from BillOReilly.com.

00:12:42.540 Bill, you are, I have so much I want to talk to you about.

00:12:47.420 You're going to have insight that we have maybe missed this week, but I want to start with dessert.

00:12:52.900 I want to start with this crazy story out of Chicago and Jussie Smollett.

00:12:59.420 Well, it is a crazy story and, you know, he's doubling down by telling the Hollywood pinheads, oh, I didn't do it.

00:13:08.300 You know, this is not true.

00:13:12.040 I mean, the Chicago police are lying about me.

00:13:14.940 So that tells me the guy is mentally ill.

00:13:19.900 Is that fair?

00:13:20.840 It does seem to be relatively fair.

00:13:23.340 I'm not saying it as a joke.

00:13:24.660 No, I think that might be fair.

00:13:27.620 I think it might be a cop-out.

00:13:30.120 You have overwhelming evidence now.

00:13:30.940 Yes.

00:13:31.880 Compiled by the Chicago police, which treated him with respect in the beginning.

00:13:38.800 And the guy's still claiming that, you know, two white guys jumped him at 2.30 in the morning at 14 below zero weather when he came back from his subway.

00:13:49.880 But he's going, he's doubling down even more than that.

00:13:52.820 His lawyer came out yesterday and said, this is what we thought we were dealing with was bad enough.

00:13:58.760 But now look at the justice system.

00:14:01.600 Now he's being persecuted by the authorities.

00:14:03.280 Oh, my gosh.

00:14:04.080 So I think that at this point you have to disengage.

00:14:07.980 And this is a lesson for people in their personal lives as well.

00:14:11.580 Once you get into a point where it's irrational and that truth and facts don't matter anymore,

00:14:20.620 so you're in a delusionary world, you've got to get away.

00:14:25.940 Okay, so I'm putting that story behind me.

00:14:30.060 And I feel bad for any human being that self-destructs that way.

00:14:37.040 But the political story here, Kamala Harris and Cory Booker, two senators, in my opinion, have destroyed their credibility forever.

00:14:49.340 So cast members, cast members of Empire have come out and said, this is horrible.

00:14:56.340 They are destroying him.

00:14:58.740 Fox has distanced themselves.

00:15:00.500 And not Fox News Channel.

00:15:02.540 Fox has distanced themselves.

00:15:05.000 And yet the presidential candidates don't?

00:15:08.400 Well, they do.

00:15:09.380 But they don't know what to do.

00:15:10.360 Because both Booker and Harris, on their resume, have the witch-hunting against Brett Kavanaugh.

00:15:17.660 So this is two.

00:15:19.700 All right?

00:15:20.640 So they're witch-hunters.

00:15:22.700 That's who these people are.

00:15:25.140 And I'll submit to you that no American is going to vote for a—well, I shouldn't even say that, because we live in a different country now.

00:15:33.440 But they're witch-hunters.

00:15:36.260 And Harris had a pretty good shot at the number two spot on a Biden ticket.

00:15:41.840 But now, if Biden puts her there, all you're going to hear about is Jussie Smollett.

00:15:48.840 That's all you're going to hear about.

00:15:50.780 I mean, Trump will go to town on that, and so will Pence like crazy.

00:15:54.860 So that's a big unintended consequence of this whole thing that the media will never report.

00:16:00.520 The second big story off this is that many millions of Americans now believe CNN is trash.

00:16:13.300 You had their media critic, the bald guy.

00:16:17.200 What's his name?

00:16:18.320 That vicious animal there.

00:16:21.700 Stelter?

00:16:22.300 Oh, Brian.

00:16:23.480 I think you're thinking of Brian Stelter, potentially?

00:16:26.020 All right, Stelter, yeah.

00:16:27.640 Vicious beyond belief, this man.

00:16:31.280 Okay?

00:16:32.060 And Lara Logan pointed that out this week.

00:16:34.880 He comes out, and he says, he says, on the air, mainstream media covered Smollett responsibly.

00:16:44.280 That's the end to him.

00:16:45.880 Yeah, delusional.

00:16:47.180 Delusional.

00:16:47.700 So I looked at the numbers.

00:16:50.160 I just got them from last night for CNN cable news.

00:16:54.740 They are now evaporating.

00:16:58.400 What are their nightly numbers like?

00:17:01.260 They have declined in the last few weeks about 20, 25 percent.

00:17:07.500 Oh, my gosh.

00:17:09.140 Yeah.

00:17:09.640 How many hot?

00:17:10.160 Because MSNBC, what they did was they just ignored it, if you can believe it.

00:17:17.420 They were all over Smollett when it first started.

00:17:21.120 Oh, this is terrible.

00:17:22.120 And then the usual virtue signaling that they do.

00:17:24.920 We're noble, and the country is terrible.

00:17:28.420 But we, MSNBC, we are so noble and so smart.

00:17:34.280 And then when it turned, what MSNBC did, and this is all corporate, we've discussed this before,

00:17:39.500 they're ordered what to do and say, was they didn't cover it.

00:17:44.480 They ignored it.

00:17:45.660 Even their big show, Maddow.

00:17:47.760 Okay?

00:17:48.560 But CNN tried to defend it.

00:17:52.080 You see the difference?

00:17:52.860 So the liberals who don't want to see this or hear this anymore, they went to MSNBC because

00:17:59.960 even they couldn't stomach the lies coming out of CNN.

00:18:04.480 I mean, so you've got two really big stories off Smollett.

00:18:09.520 You've got the disintegration of two presidential candidates and the disintegration of CNN.

00:18:16.060 Now, how long people remember, I don't know, but it can be brought up at any time.

00:18:21.860 Well, you have, may I, have one more big story.

00:18:25.140 I agree with everything you just said.

00:18:26.700 One other story that is big and yet undeveloped.

00:18:30.160 And that is, how much time will he get for this?

00:18:33.740 Now he's accused of sending his own letter to himself, a threatening letter to himself.

00:18:41.380 Yeah, he'll get probation and a fine.

00:18:42.760 That's a mistake.

00:18:43.800 Wait a minute.

00:18:44.260 Hang on.

00:18:44.640 If you did that, the penalty is seven to ten years for just postal fraud.

00:18:51.160 Go back.

00:18:51.920 I know.

00:18:52.480 Hang on just a second.

00:18:54.000 One to three for the reporting of a crime.

00:18:57.240 If this guy, he is facing from basic sentencing eight to 13 years.

00:19:03.640 I understand.

00:19:05.020 A city where you can carry a gun, be a gang member, and they won't even give you any jail

00:19:13.760 time.

00:19:14.340 So here's the undeveloped story yet to come.

00:19:18.680 And that is, if this guy, we have 30, on the Blaze today, we have added, last weekend

00:19:26.500 a reporter went through and they found like 20 different stories that were fake.

00:19:30.680 Today, the Blaze has a comprehensive story on 30 of these fake left-wing, you know, I was

00:19:39.260 victimized somehow or another by Donald Trump supporter.

00:19:43.400 If you don't make an example out of this guy, there is no truth on the local level.

00:19:52.020 Police won't be able to believe anything.

00:19:54.720 They're not going to do it, Beck.

00:19:56.460 I'm telling you, this is Cook County, Chicago.

00:20:01.360 I know.

00:20:01.640 So what's going to happen is they're going to, the lawyers for Smollett will go in and

00:20:07.660 say, our client has psychological and emotional problems.

00:20:12.880 We want to make a plea deal.

00:20:15.540 Don't put him in jail.

00:20:17.120 He'll get therapy, give him probation.

00:20:19.740 He'll pay a fine for all the expenses that the Chicago PD put out.

00:20:24.240 And that's what will happen.

00:20:25.740 We're with Bill O'Reilly on the Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:28.220 It is Friday.

00:20:29.000 We're talking about the loss of Amazon to New York and what that means politically.

00:20:37.900 AOC and others are celebrating.

00:20:40.320 The New York Times had a deal on their daily podcast today about what it means for New York.

00:20:47.300 And they were so arrogant saying, well, New York doesn't really need Amazon and we'll get

00:20:51.740 those jobs anyway.

00:20:53.320 Quote, we create in New York City thousands of jobs every month anyway.

00:20:58.420 Oh, do you?

00:20:59.900 Really?

00:21:01.500 But what do the real people think on the streets?

00:21:05.660 And, you know, from Bill O'Reilly's house, there is a vantage point to where you can look

00:21:11.400 down at the little villages and towns where real people actually live.

00:21:15.900 How are the average Democrats looking at, you know, job creation?

00:21:24.640 This isn't job creation.

00:21:25.720 These are serial killers when it comes to job creation.

00:21:29.800 25,000 jobs lost.

00:21:32.740 Okay.

00:21:33.120 Number one, I'm glad you follow the New York Times because I don't.

00:21:38.080 Yes.

00:21:38.900 Somebody has to.

00:21:39.700 You know why I don't?

00:21:40.620 Because everything.

00:21:41.360 They're liars.

00:21:42.380 Okay.

00:21:42.640 Got it.

00:21:43.160 All right.

00:21:43.540 And they lied today.

00:21:45.420 If what you're reporting is accurate.

00:21:47.380 It is.

00:21:48.040 I have no, yeah.

00:21:49.140 I have no reason to believe it is.

00:21:50.360 So little Andrew Cuomo, the governor of New York State, and I use the word little because

00:21:56.620 he's shrinking in my estimation almost every day.

00:22:01.560 Little Andrew Cuomo comes out two weeks ago and says, we are $2.5 billion light up.

00:22:09.900 On tax receipts.

00:22:12.000 So we expected $2.5 billion more taxes in New York State.

00:22:18.180 And the reason we don't have them is because large wage earners like Glenn Beck, and he

00:22:24.320 cited you specifically.

00:22:26.100 I'm sure he did.

00:22:26.880 Have moved out of the state, which you did.

00:22:29.600 No, you're in Connecticut, but we have moved out.

00:22:32.300 Okay.

00:22:33.100 So that's a fact in stone.

00:22:35.460 So then the New York Times comes in and says, oh, no, we don't need Amazon.

00:22:40.100 We create jobs all the time.

00:22:42.420 Then they're, of course, contradicting little Andrew.

00:22:46.660 All right.

00:22:47.040 So you can't believe a word those people say.

00:22:50.100 Nothing.

00:22:50.440 Now, I don't, your question before the break was, are the folks who elected Ocasio-Cortez going

00:23:00.040 to wise up and see what she's peddling is hurtful to them and the country? 0.99

00:23:08.360 And I'm not sure.

00:23:10.200 And I'll tell you, I don't know if the news penetrates now through to 75% of the American

00:23:19.460 people.

00:23:20.220 Well, hang on.

00:23:20.820 25% of us follow it.

00:23:25.840 But 75% of us are so addicted to the machines and everything else that they don't.

00:23:33.000 So let me give you a prime example of this.

00:23:35.540 Here's Ocasio-Cortez trying to explain how taxes work to a show that, you know, will

00:23:46.940 appeal to 75% of Americans.

00:23:50.940 Watch.

00:23:51.640 All right, enough without that.

00:23:52.580 Why are you trying to take all our money away from us?

00:23:54.240 We just signed to Showtime, and now you're trying to put the wild tax on a billionaire.

00:23:58.040 What's wrong with you?

00:23:59.120 No, no, no.

00:23:59.540 Seriously, though.

00:24:00.060 Seriously, though.

00:24:00.660 Please look straight to camera and explain the tax for the dumb motherf***er that keep

00:24:04.000 saying, if I make a million, don't you?

00:24:05.540 I thought I was just going to take $70 million away from me.

00:24:07.740 So a marginal tax rate is saying, if you make more than $10 million in one year, which

00:24:16.540 is a pretty good year.

00:24:17.680 That's a damn good year.

00:24:18.600 If you make more than $10 million in one year, your $10 million and $1 gets taxed at 70%,

00:24:29.600 which, by the way, we used to have marginal tax rates under Republican presidents of 90%,

00:24:37.380 and it was when we experienced some of the largest rates of economic tax.

00:24:40.220 Pow! 0.91

00:24:40.660 Stupid, hold that.

00:24:41.640 You know what's crazy?

00:24:42.340 Like, she totally explained it, and I don't have $10 million, but even though I'm just like,

00:24:45.660 nah.

00:24:46.300 And it really comes down to the question of, isn't $10 million enough?

00:24:50.700 Like, when does it stop?

00:24:53.820 Yeah, when it's too much money, too much.

00:24:55.080 Like, when, at what point is it immoral that we're building Jeff Bezos a helipad when we

00:25:01.980 have the most amount of homeless people in New York City?

00:25:05.180 Listen, we appreciate it.

00:25:06.020 All right, there it is.

00:25:06.700 So this is the Bodega Boys.

00:25:08.720 That's how people get their news.

00:25:10.640 Well, that was Jake Tapper interviewing him.

00:25:12.480 Okay, so what you have now is somebody who really wants to be a Kardashian, all right?

00:25:30.600 So she doesn't understand macroeconomics.

00:25:34.160 She doesn't understand that anybody making $10 million is already paying 50% of that.

00:25:41.400 Okay, not on a corporate level.

00:25:45.200 Okay, now, at a corporate level, I think the government should go in there, and I don't

00:25:49.240 think Amazon should be paying no taxes, which they did last year.

00:25:53.540 Nothing.

00:25:54.460 I don't think so.

00:25:55.320 I think that's wrong.

00:25:57.120 Okay, and so I'm with Ms. Cortez on that.

00:26:00.720 But for me, when I earn money, you know, I pay half, half in state and federal taxes, and

00:26:12.540 that's not enough for this woman? 1.00

00:26:15.240 I'm sorry.

00:26:16.420 Achievement should be celebrated, not punished.

00:26:18.860 All right, Bill, let me switch subjects here in the last few minutes.

00:26:25.180 The Mueller investigation is supposed to be finished next week.

00:26:29.660 A, true or false?

00:26:31.240 B, what happens?

00:26:33.020 What are we going to see?

00:26:34.820 CNN reported that.

00:26:36.180 I don't trust anything CNN says.

00:26:38.080 But I think the indications are that the new attorney general made a call to Mueller and

00:26:46.240 said, when are you going to have it?

00:26:49.000 I think that's what happened.

00:26:50.760 And I have that on fairly reliable information, as Stu always knows.

00:26:56.020 Of course.

00:26:56.980 So Barr got in.

00:26:58.400 The first call was to Mueller.

00:27:00.280 When are you going to have it?

00:27:01.400 And then it leaked out.

00:27:02.480 Okay, so I'm going to go with it, that Mueller will put out something, but it's not going

00:27:08.240 to be public.

00:27:09.480 It'll go to Barr.

00:27:11.080 And then Barr will brief congressional people.

00:27:14.360 As soon as he does that, it'll leak out.

00:27:18.060 And that's true.

00:27:18.700 The way that this works, Bill, is that it basically falls onto Barr to do a summary of

00:27:24.280 the Mueller report.

00:27:25.060 Is that right?

00:27:25.920 Yep.

00:27:26.520 And then Barr doesn't have to make that public.

00:27:30.000 He doesn't have to put it out to the folks.

00:27:31.320 And I don't believe there's going to be anybody in Barr's office going to put it out.

00:27:35.440 He does have to brief Congress, though, right?

00:27:36.860 Because they're so scared now, the Department of Justice, that they're not going to do that.

00:27:41.680 But as soon as he goes over to the Hill and gets into the committees and says, this is

00:27:47.560 what it says, two seconds later.

00:27:50.920 But you're not going to get an accurate appraisal of it.

00:27:54.080 So Schiff and those guys, they're going to spin it negative no matter what it is.

00:27:58.700 And then the Republicans, even though it was terrible, they'd say it isn't terrible.

00:28:05.460 So the folks will not get a real accurate barometer.

00:28:09.480 And then, of course, the news agencies won't report it accurately.

00:28:12.820 They have too much invested in it.

00:28:15.420 So what comes out of this in the end, Bill?

00:28:17.460 What does this mean for the...

00:28:19.600 Unless there is a charge leveled against Donald Trump, it means nothing.

00:28:27.120 I mean, what if it's one of the kids?

00:28:29.820 Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner?

00:28:31.580 It's not going to be one of the kids.

00:28:33.700 It's not going to be anything like that.

00:28:35.860 And if it were, it would have already leaked out.

00:28:38.860 Here's what it's going to be.

00:28:40.000 And you guys have this on tape, and you can play it back.

00:28:42.260 It's going to be Donald Trump did not understand that his organization was violating the spirit

00:28:51.180 of our elections by interacting with Russian agents, bad actors.

00:28:57.540 They're going to use that word during the campaign.

00:29:00.720 And the Russians tried to subvert our election, but the Trump campaign was so naive and so distracted

00:29:07.620 and so incompetent that it played into their hands, the Russians' hands. 0.63

00:29:12.480 That's what it's going to be.

00:29:15.060 And is it true, Bill, that...

00:29:17.740 Because what we're going to get, essentially, if I'm reading this right,

00:29:20.840 is we're going to get Barr's report, a Trump appointee's report,

00:29:25.680 about what the Mueller report says.

00:29:27.920 No, you'll get the Mueller report some down the road.

00:29:32.480 Right.

00:29:32.800 So Barr can't distort it.

00:29:35.160 He can't.

00:29:35.980 But that's going to come from what?

00:29:37.280 The people he briefs can't distort it and will, and the press, of course,

00:29:44.060 will never report accurately because they can't.

00:29:47.320 They've already convicted Trump of Russian collusion.

00:29:50.180 They can't report it accurately.

00:29:51.840 And then the people who are invested in Trump, who have defended him,

00:29:55.860 can't certainly say, oh, he did something wrong.

00:30:00.140 They can't do that.

00:30:00.880 Everybody's got to stay where they are.

00:30:03.940 It's like Jesse Smollett.

00:30:06.460 Yeah, he'll just keep going.

00:30:08.480 He can't admit it.

00:30:10.620 Will this have to be subpoenaed to get the actual full report down the line?

00:30:14.700 They'll put it out.

00:30:15.800 They'll put it out.

00:30:16.420 They will.

00:30:16.980 I mean, you can't pay all this money.

00:30:18.480 The taxpayers paid $30 million.

00:30:20.280 I mean, you can't say, we're not going to show it to you.

00:30:23.040 But it'll be redacted.

00:30:25.080 It's like Glenn Beck's life.

00:30:28.240 You have to redact half of it.

00:30:30.340 Yeah.

00:30:30.700 A lot of it's ugly.

00:30:31.840 A lot of it's ugly.

00:30:32.920 I don't know if I'd go there in that challenge with me there, Bill.

00:30:37.840 But thank you so much, Bill O'Reilly.

00:30:40.940 BillOreilly.com.

00:30:41.780 All right, guys.

00:30:41.880 BillOreilly.com.

00:30:43.200 Good to talk to you.

00:30:43.920 Talk to you again next week.

00:30:45.100 Okay.

00:30:45.540 God bless.

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00:31:46.720 We talk about socialism.

00:31:48.580 We talk about what's coming with the country.

00:31:50.540 We talk a little bit about history.

00:31:52.420 And the most basic of human questions, who are we?

00:31:58.060 Listen.

00:31:58.980 The Bible is not man's book about God.

00:32:02.040 If it was, we'd talk about the creation of the universe.

00:32:04.960 It's God's book about man.

00:32:06.840 And fundamental to that is this basic question of what are we?

00:32:15.760 Are we nothing but a creature on the continuum that starts with bacteria and moves up to people?

00:32:25.340 Or are we a completely different creature, as I say, touched by the finger of God?

00:32:31.120 That's really what we have to ask ourselves, because everything flows out of that.

00:32:37.000 Once we decide that question, and you can never know it.

00:32:41.900 It's like everything else in life.

00:32:43.560 When you get married to a woman, there is no way you can possibly know everything about her before you get married. 0.88

00:32:49.960 That is a step you take with faith in almost every major decision in life.

00:32:57.520 When you choose a career, you have no idea all the implications that that's going to have 30 years later.

00:33:04.340 And so similarly, on this decision, you also make a decision in your life.

00:33:09.380 You say, look, there's two ways to live my life.

00:33:12.960 I either have to live my life as if I am truly a purposeless collection of molecules of nitrogen and oxygen and phosphorus and carbon,

00:33:24.560 or I am something that God created and put here with a purpose.

00:33:29.420 And the implications are absolutely huge.

00:33:33.000 And the kind of society, first of all, the kind of person I'm going to try and make myself become,

00:33:38.200 the family I'm going to raise, the society I'm going to be part of,

00:33:40.720 all of this is shaped, as I said earlier, by a belief along these lines, as opposed to any facts.

00:33:48.640 Rabbi Lappin, the latest in our series of interviews with fascinating people,

00:33:54.480 people that I don't necessarily agree with, some people I absolutely agree with,

00:33:58.300 but each of them are people that I really want to talk to.

00:34:02.860 Coming up in the next couple of weeks, we've got a guy who is, I think, the only survivor to ever jump off the Golden Gate Bridge.

00:34:10.720 And his story is phenomenal.

00:34:16.640 And he's now a motivational speaker, trying to get people to understand, oh, I've been there.

00:34:22.140 You know, he was kept alive by seals.

00:34:26.080 I mean, not like Navy seals, but like seals.

00:34:28.880 Seals?

00:34:29.280 Seals?

00:34:29.440 Seals.

00:34:30.140 Sea lions.

00:34:31.500 Hmm.

00:34:31.820 Sea lions came up and held him up while the Coast Guard could get to him.

00:34:37.280 Oh, wow.

00:34:37.580 That's going to be amazing.

00:34:38.700 Incredible.

00:34:39.180 A lot of deep conversations you've had on this podcast and a lot of really interesting things.

00:34:43.080 Can I make a recommendation for another one?

00:34:45.220 Do we have the short clip from this Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez interview we just did?

00:34:49.380 I think you should talk to this guy because this is insight.

00:34:51.740 You're not going to hear anywhere else.

00:34:52.980 Go ahead.

00:34:53.500 You know what's crazy?

00:34:54.200 Like, she totally explained it and I don't have $10 million, but even though I'm just like, nah.

00:34:57.760 I got to get bumper stickers printed with that on it.

00:35:26.280 I mean, can you imagine?

00:35:27.200 That is deep.

00:35:27.720 One more time.

00:35:28.220 That's really deep.

00:35:28.860 Listen to that.

00:35:29.080 You know what's crazy?

00:35:29.680 Like, she totally explained it and I don't have $10 million, but even though I'm just like, nah.

00:35:33.760 I don't.

00:35:35.500 Think about it, guys.

00:35:36.640 I am.

00:35:38.620 I really.

00:35:39.500 Yep.

00:35:39.720 I bet you are.

00:35:40.620 I have no idea.

00:35:41.300 Was he for or against?

00:35:42.260 I bet you are.

00:35:44.420 I want you to sit back and think about that, America, today.

00:35:47.900 Just think about it.

00:35:48.740 I mean, he just explained it and yet I'm still kind of like, nah.

00:35:53.860 You know what's crazy?

00:35:54.760 Like, she totally explained it and I don't have $10 million, but even though I'm just like, nah.

00:36:03.400 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:36:05.820 We go now to Bernie Sanders, who is joining us, I think.

00:36:21.240 Are you in New Hampshire, sir?

00:36:22.920 I'm in Vermont.

00:36:23.880 Oh, you're Vermont.

00:36:24.360 Vermont is the people's New Hampshire.

00:36:26.160 Right.

00:36:26.520 New Hampshire's the 1% of Vermont.

00:36:27.940 I would never step foot in New Hampshire until the primaries.

00:36:29.840 Okay.

00:36:30.160 Well, welcome to the program.

00:36:32.160 Thank you.

00:36:32.420 It's good to be here.

00:36:32.980 I would like to say hello to you and to your listeners, specifically the ones who make less 1.00

00:36:36.160 than $47,000 a year.

00:36:37.840 Those are the hardworking Americans that I'm here to represent.

00:36:39.740 Thank you, Glenn.

00:36:40.260 Yeah.

00:36:40.440 Well, what about the other people that are making 50, 55, even 100,000?

00:36:44.820 Oh, you mean the Rockefellers of the United States that are sucking wealth out of the 1.00

00:36:48.580 middle class, the hardworking middle class that's composed of people that work in coal 0.99

00:36:52.120 mines and chimney sweeps?

00:36:53.280 I have nothing to say to those people.

00:36:54.440 So, um, what, what exactly is, uh, why, why do you think you've connected to the people

00:37:02.200 so dramatically now?

00:37:04.080 I think we're finally awaking as a country that wealth is entirely dependent upon theft

00:37:11.540 and their understanding that the way to handle it is to either take the money of rich people

00:37:16.620 or potentially break them into smaller organs in pieces and redistribute them to the masses.

00:37:20.820 And I, I am the only person that wants to actually take blood out of Jeff Bezos and, and resupply

00:37:25.920 it to other more hardworking people.

00:37:27.860 You, you, you actually want his blood.

00:37:29.740 Yes.

00:37:30.160 I, that, that way, at that point, because you, you have access to the bank account, if

00:37:34.240 you have blood, not a lot of people know that, but, uh, there was a law in the seventies

00:37:36.980 that if you, if you, if you get somebody else's blood, you, you have some recourse to their

00:37:40.320 checking account.

00:37:41.060 I don't think that's true, sir.

00:37:43.000 Um, now some of the, uh, some of the proposals that you're making are, I mean, they sound like the

00:37:47.760 former Soviet union.

00:37:48.880 Uh, they, uh, they, I will.

00:37:50.600 I will acknowledge their robust proposals to try and save the United States from descending

00:37:56.180 back into a plutocratic hell hole where aristocrats with top hats are beating coal orphans with 1.00

00:38:03.640 whips for their amusement.

00:38:04.960 Yes, Glenn, if that's what you mean.

00:38:06.060 People haven't worn top hats for a very long time around the time of Abraham Lincoln.

00:38:10.600 And that is entirely due to the new deal of FDR.

00:38:13.860 If it weren't for FDR, there'll be top hats everywhere and coal orphans living in caves. 1.00

00:38:17.240 So you are, you are, you're for the green new deal, I suppose.

00:38:21.700 I, I had a lot of problems with it as I imagine you did.

00:38:24.420 I thought it was, uh, fairly anemic and, and very tiny in its scope.

00:38:28.960 I thought it could have been three, four times more robust than it was.

00:38:32.460 And when I'm elected president, I will make a hyper neon green deal.

00:38:36.240 A hyper, hyper neon new green deal.

00:38:39.780 Okay.

00:38:40.320 And, and what's in that hyper new green deal?

00:38:43.880 Thank you, Glenn.

00:38:44.240 I appreciate that.

00:38:45.180 I know you and I don't always see eye to eye.

00:38:46.840 However, I appreciate being able to spell out the policies.

00:38:49.740 These are important to the working people in the United States.

00:38:51.920 The number one thing, Glenn, is Medicare for all.

00:38:55.100 Now I know what you're going to say, Glenn.

00:38:56.340 You're going to say, how can the United States afford the pay for Medicare for all of the people

00:39:00.980 of the entire planet earth?

00:39:02.240 And I tell you, we have enough money to do that and it is unconscionable that the wealthiest

00:39:06.900 country in the history of the world can't give healthcare to everyone on earth. 0.97

00:39:10.900 So you want Medicare for all for, I mean, for all, for all, for everybody, for everyone

00:39:15.220 on earth.

00:39:15.720 And if there are other planets that have life, we will also give it to them.

00:39:19.340 But right now, everyone on earth.

00:39:21.420 Okay.

00:39:22.260 Um, so, so do we have borders in your world?

00:39:25.380 Yes, we do.

00:39:26.200 We do have borders because you have to be, you have to be aware and conscience of rich

00:39:30.260 people from other countries.

00:39:31.340 You have to be able to stop them from coming in.

00:39:34.040 So you have borders around rich people.

00:39:36.360 Yes.

00:39:36.640 Ideally, we would not let in anyone from the Cayman Islands or from Switzerland. 1.00

00:39:40.860 Those two places are awful.

00:39:42.800 And if we do not outright declare war on them, we should quarantine them. 0.79

00:39:46.740 Okay.

00:39:47.440 All right.

00:39:48.160 Um, how do you, how do you, how do you, uh, for instance, New York just rejected, uh, you

00:39:55.900 know, Amazon and they said we, New York doesn't need, uh, you know, Amazon's jobs.

00:40:01.200 We create thousands of jobs every month.

00:40:03.980 Anyway, we're bigger than Amazon.

00:40:06.240 Um, and you killed 25,000 jobs.

00:40:09.920 That, uh, Glenn, this is, this is a fundamental misunderstanding of how the economy works.

00:40:13.900 The, the, the economy naturally produces wealth.

00:40:16.580 It comes up, it kind of bubbles out of the ground.

00:40:18.960 Like you're probably a proponent of trickle down economics.

00:40:22.140 I'm a proponent of, of dribble up economics, like from a septic tank.

00:40:26.600 It rises from the bottom and it just naturally happens.

00:40:29.620 And evil people take more than their fair share.

00:40:32.540 So the job of the government is to allocate theft, which is what all commerce is, into

00:40:37.040 smaller units that are more equally distributed.

00:40:39.620 And the people of New York did that.

00:40:40.860 They saw the benefit in having, uh, uh, a type of leader who is a technocrat with a

00:40:45.820 sweater vest and having them in charge of money.

00:40:47.840 That is the, the, the, that is the future of mankind.

00:40:50.340 All right.

00:40:50.680 So, uh, Bernie, there's been a lot of, uh, a lot of dirt that has come out on you that,

00:40:55.580 that, that, that, uh, that essay that you wrote about how, uh, men have a fantasy of

00:41:02.220 women on their knees, bound and gagged and beaten.

00:41:05.380 That's their sexual fantasy.

00:41:06.920 And women, they're fantasizing about being raped by three men at once.

00:41:13.140 Glenn, that essay was a long time ago.

00:41:14.940 I believe that was 1973, which is also the last time I had sex.

00:41:18.220 Right.

00:41:18.580 I have not, I have not had any relations since that time.

00:41:20.600 I believe I should be expunged due to the, the good behavior that I've had.

00:41:24.560 Of not having any sex.

00:41:26.060 Not at all.

00:41:26.560 Not at all.

00:41:27.060 And until everyone's having an equal amount, I refuse to engage in carnal relations with

00:41:31.140 any Americans.

00:41:31.960 Right.

00:41:32.160 Okay.

00:41:32.640 Uh, are these, are these things being like the, the videotape of you praising, you know,

00:41:38.300 Castro's revolution?

00:41:40.260 Uh, you still stand by that?

00:41:41.820 Castro was a great leader and a great man.

00:41:44.220 He did a lot of, he brought universal education to, uh, the island of Cuba.

00:41:48.460 He, uh, he was a fanatic for cigars, but they were, they were also made by good working

00:41:54.360 Cubans.

00:41:54.920 Uh, and he was an excellent baseball player, which, uh, I myself am a fan of.

00:41:58.740 I don't know if you know this.

00:41:59.500 I'm originally from Brooklyn, but the Brooklyn Dodgers were there until capitalists stole

00:42:03.000 them and sent them to Los Angeles.

00:42:04.860 Okay, but, but, but Castro himself was a killer.

00:42:08.180 I mean, Castro had a couple of details, you know, all, all leaders have a couple of things

00:42:16.400 that may be off foibles that they have to deal with.

00:42:18.900 You know, uh, I, I frequently am criticized on my fashion because I like to store the two

00:42:23.320 suits that I own in a Pringles can.

00:42:24.760 Does that detract from my excellent policy chops?

00:42:27.340 I say no.

00:42:27.740 Um, but store, having a crumpled suit and killing, you know, hundreds of thousands, if

00:42:33.500 not millions of people that they're not, I don't, wouldn't compare them.

00:42:37.860 Uh, again, again, I, I think the, the issue Glenn is we're trying to make a better, more

00:42:44.040 just, more equitable society.

00:42:46.240 Occasionally, occasionally people might die, but they will die less than in a capitalist

00:42:51.420 system, which is based on, on making a puree out of workers and then giving it to cows

00:42:56.760 to feed them.

00:42:57.400 And then we eat the cows and that creates gases.

00:42:59.120 There's all sorts of cycles that I don't think you're acknowledging in the capitalist

00:43:02.440 system.

00:43:02.660 Some might say that you're crazy, Bernie.

00:43:05.100 Uh, I, I am, uh, I am crazy.

00:43:07.980 Like, uh, like FDR was crazy.

00:43:10.380 I'm crazy for justice, crazy for equality.

00:43:13.100 Does that make me crazy, Glenn?

00:43:14.220 I say no.

00:43:15.120 Okay.

00:43:15.560 All right.

00:43:15.880 We'll, we'll, uh, we'll just one more quick question.

00:43:18.660 Um, you know, you, you, uh, you've come out against Howard Schultz.

00:43:23.100 Yes.

00:43:23.340 Because he's wealthy.

00:43:24.400 Yes.

00:43:24.660 Uh, and, but you said to run as an independent is, is horrible.

00:43:29.180 You are an independent.

00:43:31.300 I am an independent strategically when it suits the ambitions of me and the working class

00:43:35.020 people.

00:43:35.660 Howard Schultz is a billionaire.

00:43:37.180 Every billionaire is a policy disaster in the United States.

00:43:40.140 I think his money should be taken and every Starbucks should be converted into some sort

00:43:44.240 of organic, organic farming facility for iceberg lettuce, not for kale.

00:43:48.000 Kale is the top 1% of vegetables.

00:43:49.340 It's just for iceberg lettuce.

00:43:50.160 All right.

00:43:50.540 So you are, you're for the democratic party.

00:43:53.060 All the rifts between you two have, have healed.

00:43:56.760 There's nothing but love with you and the democratic party.

00:43:59.280 I, I, uh, I am a, a strong proponent of the democratic party.

00:44:02.520 I am enjoying the democratic party.

00:44:04.240 Uh, I am, I'm proposing legislation actively that we should all legally be friends.

00:44:07.940 And I believe once that's passed that we will usher in a new, a new utopia.

00:44:10.760 All right.

00:44:11.180 And, uh, just if anybody wants to pitch in on your campaign, what, what, what do you

00:44:15.500 recommend?

00:44:15.900 Uh, uh, you, you can go to my website, uh, Bernie Sanders, two suits and a crumpled Pringles

00:44:21.060 can.org.

00:44:22.160 Uh, the, uh, the other ones were already taken, unfortunately, but that, that one was still

00:44:25.460 available and you can go there and donate on my Patreon account.

00:44:28.520 And I'm trying to, uh, to crowdfund a new state, uh, in between Massachusetts and New

00:44:33.560 Hampshire, a new state.

00:44:35.620 Yes.

00:44:36.000 It's, it's going to be Vermont too.

00:44:37.360 And, uh, it will, it will just be, it will be Vermont only slightly better.

00:44:40.640 So there's a lot of projects to get involved in.

00:44:42.800 The main one is to get me elected president.

00:44:44.740 I think I'm going to pull it off this time.

00:44:46.100 If I don't, I'm going to keep doing it at least to 2040.

00:44:48.900 All right.

00:44:49.340 Thank you very much, Bernie Sanders, for being a part of the program.

00:44:52.560 My pleasure.

00:44:53.160 Thank you, Glenn.

00:44:53.580 Thank you.

00:44:54.020 I do like that he's honest.

00:44:55.760 You know, he doesn't mind too.

00:44:57.780 I think we should explore next time.

00:44:59.100 Cause I don't know.

00:45:00.260 I've seen Vermont, you know, Vermont one.

00:45:02.940 I don't know how you'd make it better.

00:45:04.860 Can you have too many Vermonts?

00:45:06.560 I don't think so.

00:45:07.140 I don't think so.

00:45:11.180 This is the best of a Glenn Beck program.

00:45:20.440 Jonathan Dunn is known as freedom's disciple.

00:45:23.040 He does a podcast on the blaze.

00:45:24.760 He is from Ireland.

00:45:25.720 He so desperately wants to live here in the United States, but, you know, getting, actually

00:45:32.900 getting a visa here is, is ridiculously difficult.

00:45:37.740 Um, and so, uh, he is in Ireland and he comes in to visit from time to time.

00:45:43.020 And then he speaks around the country about America and what makes us, I love this, not

00:45:48.100 what makes America great, but what makes us exceptional.

00:45:50.780 Welcome to the program from Ireland, Jonathan Dunn.

00:45:54.140 Thank you, sir.

00:45:54.820 Awesome to be here.

00:45:55.740 Yeah.

00:45:55.940 It's good to have you here.

00:45:57.360 You're at home in America, aren't you?

00:45:59.300 Yes.

00:45:59.720 Yeah.

00:45:59.880 That's where I feel comfortable.

00:46:00.980 I, I, when I come over here, I'm saying I'm going home when I'm Monday, when I fly back,

00:46:04.340 it's, I'm back to Ireland and it's the way it is.

00:46:07.040 It's life.

00:46:08.280 It must be hard for you.

00:46:11.440 Um, because I can't imagine America, there's not a lot of people that are, are there in

00:46:17.340 Ireland who are like, you know what?

00:46:18.920 America's really got it.

00:46:19.900 No.

00:46:20.420 Yeah.

00:46:21.040 But the thing is the frustrating thing and why I do what I do is there's not many Americans

00:46:24.760 today who can actually tell you why it's an exceptional nation.

00:46:27.400 I talk to many people on all sides and I get America's great because we're Americans.

00:46:31.840 No, you're great because you're a set of values and principles.

00:46:36.020 You know, I was very blessed.

00:46:37.240 I've, I've shared this story with you and you know this well is when I came over first

00:46:40.060 as seven, eight year old boy, I went to Clearwater, Florida to my grand dance.

00:46:43.560 I fell in love with your country.

00:46:45.000 Then I fell in love with your people because you're awesome.

00:46:47.220 You're open-minded, you're inspiration.

00:46:48.760 You're always looking forward.

00:46:49.680 You've got this can do attitude.

00:46:51.220 Then with the international learning from people like you and Mark Levin, I fell in love

00:46:55.120 with America.

00:46:55.600 The idea, it's the idea that makes you exceptional.

00:46:58.120 When I hear people on all sides of the aisle say, you need to be more like Europe.

00:47:01.900 You need to be like everyone else.

00:47:03.060 No, we need to be more like you, not because you're Americans, but because of certain ideals,

00:47:08.320 the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, the right that you have the right

00:47:12.200 to pursue your happiness.

00:47:13.160 You can do anything you want.

00:47:14.960 It doesn't matter because of your race, your class, your background, your education, your

00:47:18.320 parents.

00:47:18.720 People don't see the difference between you.

00:47:20.480 I mean, they would think Scotland, Ireland, England.

00:47:22.740 I mean, I can go over there and be whoever I want to be.

00:47:26.200 Why can't you be that over there?

00:47:28.680 Because there's no incentive to be.

00:47:31.040 So people, let me break that down into certain policies that you need to be aware of.

00:47:34.500 So everyone now, you're running for 2020 and you're talking about progressive tax codes

00:47:38.240 and it's about the millionaires and the billionaires.

00:47:40.560 The problem with that is it might start there, but eventually it attacks the average Joe,

00:47:44.380 the middle class person.

00:47:46.200 Let me give you some stats about Ireland.

00:47:47.660 Ireland is a proud progressive nation with a proud progressive tax code.

00:47:51.280 Ireland, every cent, everyone earns over 32,000 euros, which a ballpark would exchange

00:47:56.060 rates, about $34,000 is taxed at 40%.

00:47:59.480 Oh my gosh.

00:48:00.920 Why would you work?

00:48:02.360 Why would you do the incentive?

00:48:04.100 My mother is over 60 and she made some changes in her life a couple of years ago and she worked

00:48:08.220 five days a week all her life and she was on decent money for what she did.

00:48:11.800 I sat her down and she was like, I need to do a little bit less and I need to just want 0.79

00:48:15.040 to do different things.

00:48:15.700 I want to live a bit more.

00:48:16.920 I sat down and I did our numbers and said, if you do a three and a half day week or three

00:48:20.500 day week, you'd only lose like a hundred bucks.

00:48:22.760 And she was like, but that's two days less work. 0.99

00:48:24.700 How is that working?

00:48:25.600 Because I brought her right under the 32,000 euros.

00:48:30.380 She saved so much money.

00:48:31.740 She was effectively spending two of her days effectively working for the government, putting 0.99

00:48:35.560 herself through that hassle.

00:48:36.720 If you have that incentive or lack of incentive, why work hard?

00:48:40.300 Why come in early?

00:48:41.400 Why want a bonus?

00:48:42.780 But that's only for a worker.

00:48:43.800 When you're innovating, why would you want to do it?

00:48:45.480 Why would you want to work and give 40% of income tax to the government?

00:48:50.460 That's income tax.

00:48:51.400 Then we have PRSI.

00:48:52.540 Then we have a USC.

00:48:53.700 It goes up to nearly 50.

00:48:54.880 What are those?

00:48:55.580 So it's pay related social insurance.

00:48:57.720 And then there's a USC, which is a social charge, which all supposedly goes into the healthcare.

00:49:02.240 But we are like a government like you all where it's supposed to go into these different

00:49:06.060 funds, but it doesn't.

00:49:06.860 It goes into one big posh and then everyone just takes out what you will.

00:49:10.000 So you are up to 50, but that's pretty much, I mean, Bill O'Reilly talked about it today.

00:49:14.880 50% of his paycheck, because he lives in New York, goes to taxes.

00:49:19.900 About 46 or 47% of my paycheck goes to taxes.

00:49:26.700 So we're doing that.

00:49:28.260 It's just on the rich that that's happening.

00:49:31.900 You think the difference is the rich had a chance to get there.

00:49:36.440 Yeah, the reason the frustrating thing for me is about socialism and about big government

00:49:41.820 is you have to understand, when I hear Bernie Sanders and some of the socialists speak, they're

00:49:46.940 usually right on the problem.

00:49:48.940 It's the solution they fall down on.

00:49:50.840 The reason that free market capitalism is the answer is because it creates the same level

00:49:55.520 playing field for everyone.

00:49:56.700 These big businesses that lobby government and use these policies and use these regulations

00:50:00.800 and tax policies, they've made their money.

00:50:02.720 They can pay the 40% tax.

00:50:04.720 Other people don't.

00:50:05.600 It's why America is the exception, if we go back to your history. 0.69

00:50:08.500 You study the history of the world and pretty much every revolution, you're the exact opposite.

00:50:12.900 Because usually revolutions, and you're seeing this in France right now with the yellow best 1.00

00:50:16.340 protests, they're the people at the bottom of society, and I mean this not from a class

00:50:20.260 or not from a standard, from an income point of view, with nothing to gain and everything

00:50:24.200 to lose wanting their slice of the pie.

00:50:26.180 Your founders were the exact opposite.

00:50:28.040 If I use modern day language, your 54 signers of the Declaration of Independence were the bourgeoisie,

00:50:33.040 where the greedy capitalists, the millionaires and billionaires of the day, if they wanted

00:50:36.540 to, they probably could have gone to the king and said, hey listen, king, we're all these

00:50:40.460 people, we are all these people with status, with money, with not well known, with land,

00:50:44.600 with property, with businesses.

00:50:46.420 Give us a better deal and just screw the average American. 0.98

00:50:49.280 They didn't.

00:50:49.780 They fought for freedom for everyone.

00:50:52.160 I have studied the founders so many times, and I've never looked at it that way.

00:50:58.580 That is a great observation.

00:51:01.380 They had everything to lose.

00:51:03.220 That is why they're incredible.

00:51:04.740 But let's go even one step further.

00:51:06.640 The frustrating thing for me is because you're using certain words in your culture right now,

00:51:10.180 and one of them is winning.

00:51:11.900 Everyone on my friends on the left, my friends on the right, they say, I just want to win.

00:51:17.240 America was never about winning.

00:51:19.020 Let's go into some of the stories about winning, shall we?

00:51:21.140 Your 54th sign is your Declaration of Independence.

00:51:23.640 One was a judge from New York.

00:51:25.300 This is very rare for today.

00:51:26.600 He was respected by both sides of the aisle as a fair judge.

00:51:29.700 After he signed the Declaration of Independence, how many cases did he hear?

00:51:33.160 Zero.

00:51:34.160 Why?

00:51:34.680 Because it wasn't about winning.

00:51:35.980 It was about doing the right thing.

00:51:37.480 Other people who signed your Declaration of Independence lost their property, lost their stature,

00:51:41.280 lost their fame, had their wives, their mothers, their sisters raped.

00:51:44.500 What was winning like to them?

00:51:45.620 But then you go into the Revolutionary War, the people who fought, who went and actually

00:51:50.020 went into battle, who lost their brothers, who had no shoes, who hadn't got guns, who

00:51:54.280 hadn't got the right training.

00:51:55.440 What did winning look like to them?

00:51:57.300 America was not built on a great idea of winning.

00:51:59.860 If you want to win, study the French Revolution, because that's all they wanted.

00:52:03.180 They wanted to get their bit of power and win and compel the other side, and that ended

00:52:07.020 with the guillotine.

00:52:07.940 America was built on the premise of doing the right thing.

00:52:10.620 It's why you had divine provenance.

00:52:12.440 If you get that and you understand it's not about winning, you have to do the right thing.

00:52:17.960 And your answers are in your Constitution, are in the Bill of Rights.

00:52:21.160 And if we have these conversations, you win.

00:52:24.100 Can I share an example with you of someone I had a conversation with last week?

00:52:27.160 Someone went, John, I hear you talk about government and stuff, you know, but Bernie Sanders,

00:52:31.940 you have to admit money in politics is a problem.

00:52:34.540 And I went, I absolutely agree with you.

00:52:36.280 Money in politics is a problem.

00:52:37.820 Lobbying is a problem.

00:52:39.460 He went, how do you fix it?

00:52:40.520 And I went, why don't you tell me how you fix it?

00:52:42.300 You're a Bernie Sanders supporter.

00:52:43.400 How do you do it?

00:52:44.120 He's like, well, campaign finance for law.

00:52:46.020 I said, no, the answer is the Constitution.

00:52:48.200 What's in that document that fixes that?

00:52:50.240 Article 1, Section 8.

00:52:51.740 18 clauses are there of what the federal government can do.

00:52:54.900 Everything else is left to the states.

00:52:56.440 I know you believe this.

00:52:57.620 You share this.

00:52:58.460 If you follow that, everything else has got to go to the states.

00:53:01.600 You don't have lobbyists in Washington.

00:53:03.060 You come to Texas, you come to Austin, you come to New York, you come to Chicago.

00:53:07.220 But even states like Texas, you all meet, what, two months every two years?

00:53:10.620 So for 22 months of the year, lobbyists can't do anything in Texas.

00:53:14.340 Then you encourage that to go elsewhere.

00:53:16.380 That's how you solve these problems.

00:53:18.040 The Constitution.

00:53:19.360 The sad thing about your country right now, and you've come so far off your government,

00:53:23.140 your founder said there's 18 things the federal government can do.

00:53:26.400 Everything else is to the states.

00:53:27.980 Here's the sad truth about your country.

00:53:29.700 Can you name 18 things the federal government won't do?

00:53:33.060 No.

00:53:34.100 Can you name one?

00:53:35.860 They tell you what toilet you can go to.

00:53:37.620 They tell you what cars you can drive.

00:53:39.120 They tell you what mortgage you can have.

00:53:40.520 They can tell you how much income you have.

00:53:42.600 They tell you what sweets you're allowed.

00:53:44.200 They tell you what medicine you have.

00:53:45.560 Name one thing the federal government cannot do in your life.

00:53:48.640 Because here's where the difference is.

00:53:50.600 America's founders are so exceptional.

00:53:52.120 They said your rights come from your creator, and there's limits on government.

00:53:56.540 Why I'm terrified that no one addresses this problem.

00:53:59.380 You want to know the real battle of the day?

00:54:01.060 It's not Donald Trump.

00:54:01.900 It's not Democrats.

00:54:02.780 It's not Republicans.

00:54:04.000 The battle of the day that we need to start explaining to people, it's not even liberty

00:54:07.400 versus tyranny.

00:54:08.340 It's the law of man versus the law of nature.

00:54:10.940 You're exceptional for a fact, because every other nation, whether it's a king, a dictator,

00:54:15.380 a monarch, an oligarch, a theocracy, any of them are all based on the law of man.

00:54:20.320 There's no foundation.

00:54:21.520 It changes with popular opinion and with elections, wave elections.

00:54:25.740 Your founder said, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:54:28.100 We're going to base it off the laws of nature's law and nature's God, because there's principles.

00:54:32.860 They were true 240 years ago. 0.96

00:54:34.780 They're true today. 0.89

00:54:35.600 And they will be true 250 years from now. 0.95

00:54:38.080 It is why socialism doesn't work, because it takes away and is in the face of the law of

00:54:47.800 nature.

00:54:48.800 It says that men are not animals, and that somehow or another, we can equalize everything

00:54:58.720 and make everybody the same.

00:55:00.780 It's in nature, nothing is the same.

00:55:04.360 All the lions are not even equal.

00:55:07.700 You know what I mean?

00:55:09.040 But you want that.

00:55:10.080 We want difference of a people.

00:55:11.520 You know, we want people to do different things.

00:55:13.360 Because there's the key word that you need to emphasize in your Declaration of Independence.

00:55:16.720 You have a right to pursue your happiness.

00:55:18.700 You're not guaranteed happiness, but you have the right to pursue it.

00:55:21.920 It's about the individual.

00:55:23.220 We all have different things.

00:55:24.700 If you want to go be set up the blaze, which you did, and you wanted to have this empire

00:55:28.400 to stand and be a bacon for truth, go for it.

00:55:31.360 Couldn't do this in Ireland?

00:55:33.180 No, absolutely not.

00:55:35.180 Not a hope in hell.

00:55:36.780 But also, there's no market for it.

00:55:38.580 That's the reason you have a difference.

00:55:40.200 So people say to me, what's the difference between Ireland and every R, and America and

00:55:43.320 the rest of the world?

00:55:44.180 You have a beacon.

00:55:45.260 You're not using it right now, but you have a roadmap to success.

00:55:48.060 We don't have that.

00:55:49.060 We don't have nature's law.

00:55:50.260 We don't have a fundamental belief.

00:55:51.760 We're all created equal.

00:55:53.160 We have a class system.

00:55:54.280 That's how I got my show.

00:55:55.280 I don't know if you remember.

00:55:56.240 I rang in.

00:55:56.720 You were annoying me one week.

00:55:57.540 I said, Glenn, please stop using the word middle class.

00:55:59.420 It goes against the founding of a principle of America.

00:56:02.120 Because if you have a, you're Glenn, you're upper class.

00:56:04.780 Stu, you're middle, and I'm lower.

00:56:06.380 But yeah, we're all fundamentally created equal.

00:56:07.920 How does that work?

00:56:09.460 You can't have it.

00:56:10.480 They're oil and water.

00:56:11.560 I say I'm much more upper class than either of you.

00:56:14.320 Well, I'm the lower class of it all.

00:56:16.060 Because we're basing it on income.

00:56:17.680 But the idea that you have that idea, if you want to go be a baseball star and earn, like

00:56:21.140 Manny Machado, I'll give you a baseball round.

00:56:23.200 If you want to be Manny Machado and you want to sign a 10-year, $300 million deal, go for

00:56:27.200 it.

00:56:27.560 If you're like me and who happens to like to speak and I want to do that for free, go for it.

00:56:31.400 It all goes to your pursuit of happiness.

00:56:33.160 If you want to set up a business, or if you want to be a stay-at-home mom because that's 0.97

00:56:36.080 popular to attack today, if that's your dream in life, go for it.

00:56:39.620 It fundamentally comes back to you're an individual and you can do whatever it is you want.

00:56:43.600 You have one opportunity in life.

00:56:45.520 And we need to encourage people.

00:56:47.180 Because here's the cultural difference between America and the rest of the world.

00:56:50.560 Every other country pulls people down.

00:56:52.540 There's a saying, I'm sure you may have heard it, you're getting too big for your britches.

00:56:55.520 But you can't do that.

00:56:56.780 You got a bit successful.

00:56:58.040 Then you're now rich.

00:56:58.960 You have all these things.

00:57:00.020 You have your big car, new car.

00:57:01.440 You have all this money.

00:57:02.200 You're worth all these millions.

00:57:03.160 I googled you.

00:57:03.740 I see how much money you're worth.

00:57:05.120 You're too big.

00:57:05.700 You need to pay more.

00:57:06.860 America was about, you know what?

00:57:08.360 Go for it.

00:57:09.080 Why don't you do it yourself?

00:57:10.380 You can do it.

00:57:11.140 There's nothing stopping you.

00:57:12.220 It's all up here in the mindset.

00:57:13.600 So many people have become a victim of, I could never do that.

00:57:17.460 Why could I do it?

00:57:18.320 I don't come from the right class.

00:57:19.780 It doesn't matter.

00:57:21.140 It doesn't matter.

00:57:21.800 It's all in your mind.

00:57:23.020 Dream big.

00:57:24.120 You were here a couple of years ago.

00:57:26.140 Quickly, we have about a minute, minute and a half left.

00:57:29.240 Tell me what, if anything, is different since the last time you were here.

00:57:35.820 Well, the good news to report is I've been around a lot of Texas and Oklahoma and St.

00:57:39.800 Louis.

00:57:40.060 Your people are still awesome.

00:57:41.300 It hasn't, the way you treat each other online hasn't infiltrated how you treat people on the

00:57:45.440 street, which thank God, touch wood, it never does.

00:57:47.620 You're still open.

00:57:48.440 There's no racial issues.

00:57:49.880 I've had conversations with black people, white people, gay people, straight people.

00:57:53.140 There is nothing there.

00:57:55.020 The biggest thing I've learned is there's an appetite for founding principles.

00:57:58.420 Because everyone right now, they won't and mightn't admit it because of their politics,

00:58:02.560 are going, things aren't making sense right now.

00:58:04.720 What we need to do, if you want to go big and you want to actually make America exceptional

00:58:08.560 again, now is the time to make the case for your founding principles.

00:58:11.600 You have to understand the Declaration of Independence and make the case, not about the Republicans

00:58:16.520 or the Democrats or left versus right.

00:58:18.240 Make the case for principles.

00:58:19.980 Because here's the thing.

00:58:21.040 People say to me, can America prosper again?

00:58:23.160 Can America be exceptional again?

00:58:24.760 That's not the question.

00:58:26.160 The question is, yes, you can.

00:58:27.420 The question is, do you want to?

00:58:29.560 The question is, are you willing to go through the pain and sacrifice that your founders went

00:58:33.680 through to get us?

00:58:34.840 This is why we gave him a show on The Blaze.

00:58:38.960 It's a podcast.

00:58:39.880 You can listen to it.

00:58:41.000 Freedom's disciple, Jonathan Dunn.

00:58:42.840 I urge you to seek that podcast out and listen to him and support him.

00:58:48.540 And one day, I hope to welcome him as an American to our shores.

00:58:53.660 This year, you will.

00:58:55.000 Jonathan, thank you so much.

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The Glenn Beck Program - February 22, 2019

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Bill O'Reilly, Rabbi Daniel Lapin, Andrew Heaton & Jonathon Dunne ｜ 2⧸22⧸19

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