Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Bill O'Reilly, Rabbi Daniel Lapin, Andrew Heaton & Jonathon Dunne ｜ 2⧸22⧸19
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Glenn Beck and Jonathan Dunn discuss Bernie Sanders and why he should be the next president of the United States. Also, Glenn and Jonathan discuss why they think Bernie Sanders is a great presidential candidate and why we should all vote for him.
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Welcome to the podcast. It is Friday. We have a great podcast for you tomorrow with Rabbi Daniel Lappin.
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It's a 90-minute sit-down that, you know, uninterrupted, really fascinating, fascinating look at socialism, America, capitalism, how we move forward as people.
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That is on tomorrow. You can check it out wherever you get podcasts or on TheBlazeTV.com slash Beck.
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You know, what's interesting about today's show is that we kind of started where we ended.
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We started first with Bernie Sanders and socialism and his praise, and we have a few theories on where that's coming from.
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But then kind of turned to the Declaration of Independence and why that's so important.
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That's where we ended the show, but we ended it with Jonathan Dunn, Freedom's disciple.
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He's a guy from Ireland who is so well-spoken on why we're exceptional.
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He's great, and in between those, we had Bill O'Reilly and Bernie Sanders on.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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So, you know, you've got the really exciting, the dynamic, I would call him a dynamo myself, Bernie Sanders, now running for president.
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Do you want to maybe stop and say that he's going to be on the show today?
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I'm sorry, you're right, you're right, you're right.
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Bernie Sanders is going to be joining us on the show.
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Yeah, top of the hour of hour number three of today's broadcast.
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Really, I seriously would like to talk to him because I have respect that he is open and honest about what he says.
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There was an incident on the socials last night, Glenn, where Alyssa Milano...
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...pointed out that democratic socialism isn't real, just a trick.
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...by Republicans to scare you into not voting for Democrats because you're going to think they're socialists.
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Now, the people who have identified themselves as democratic socialists, I'm not exactly sure what they say about that.
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You could convince me that Bernie Sanders is just an automatron...
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No, you could convince me that he is the Muppet up in the balcony.
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He would say, we shouldn't sell these tickets to other people.
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I will hold on to this lakefront property or balcony for now until socialism fully kicks in.
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All of this stuff is coming out negative about Bernie Sanders.
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And I think Republicans are pretty thrilled that Bernie Sanders is running yet again.
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I think this is a very exciting thing to see that Bernie Sanders is going to be...
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Has even the possibility of being the top of the ticket.
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Well, he is in fundraising and things like that.
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So there's no reason for anybody to torpedo him.
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But yet there are all these leaks of all this old news that's coming out.
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Who would have the motivation to go and do all the wet works now on Bernie Sanders?
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For some reason, I was being very excited when Fidel Castro made the revolution in Cuba.
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And it just seemed right and appropriate that poor people were rising up against rather ugly rich people.
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Again, very distinctly, a very distinct feeling.
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That was the first time the presidential candidates actually debated.
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And I was becoming increasingly interested in politics.
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I remember sitting in the student lounge at our dormitory watching the debate.
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I was very excited and impressed by the Cuban revolution.
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Even the Democrats weren't excited by the Cuban revolution.
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He was impressed by the revolution that the poor people would rise up and get rid of the ugly rich guys.
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And now, in 1988, he sees the fruit of the revolution of 1919 in the Soviet Union.
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Most of the people here also were extremely impressed by their public transportation system.
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The stations themselves were absolutely beautiful, including many works of art, chandeliers that were beautiful.
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Also, I was impressed by the youth programs that they have, their palaces of culture for the young people,
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a whole variety of programs for young people, and cultural programs, which go far beyond what we do in this country.
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We went to a theater in Yaroslavl, which was absolutely beautiful, had three separate stages.
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Their cultural programs are put on by professional actors and actresses, including a puppeteer area.
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And the cost, the highest price of the ticket that you can get, was the equivalent of $1.50.
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Now, the gulags and the torture and the cries of the oppressed and, you know, the millions that were killed.
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But as long as the people have a chandelier in their subway system, and it was beautiful, it was gorgeous.
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I mean, there's a cost-benefit analysis to everything.
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And, I mean, for me, a chandelier at a train station, worth about $400,000 or $500,000 dead.
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If I can get one chandelier per $400,000, I've starved to death in the fields or executed as they tried to get potatoes, I think that's about the right ratio.
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Some people might say it's a little lower and a little higher.
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I would like to have more than one chandelier, and I also want these great youth programs because I was very impressed with their youth programs.
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You know, when they're turning their parents into the KGB?
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And to me, a good youth program, you're talking $1.2 million, $1.3 million dead.
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I'd trade, you know, let's say it's after-school basketball.
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If you get a theater with three stages at a puppet theater, I might go to $2 million dead for that.
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Well, if you put the chandelier in the building, I'm at $2.5 million.
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Well, we could debate on $2, $2, $2, $3, $2 million, how many million have to die.
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He's terrifying as a president of the United States.
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He was the kind of guy who was like, yeah, well, you know, you're going to have to kill
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We'll have to do it because it's the right thing for the state.
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And so that scared the American people so much that they backed away and we got the
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We went with Harding and then Coolidge and we got the roaring 20s.
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And so they had to soften everything after that.
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And we didn't have any kind of reemergence of the progressive until the Great Depression.
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So I've been waiting to see what our bottom is.
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And I don't think we're going to hit our bottom.
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There's not enough pain for the American people.
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It's the line in the Declaration of Independence.
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Look up the Declaration of Independence for me real quick.
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But there's a line in it that says, basically, people will suffer all kinds of oppression.
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Because they would rather have the known than the possible pain of a switch of the unknown.
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And so they just get worse and worse and worse and worse.
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But then there comes a point to where they're like, okay, I've had enough.
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Do you realize how fast this is going to happen if we allow it to happen?
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It could happen in 2020 that they completely redesigned this country and flip the entire
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Now, as long as we don't lose the vote, as long as we don't lose true representation,
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which is always the first thing that people do, as long as we don't lose that,
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we might be able to turn it back around and set it right.
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The difference between Wilson and today is infrastructure.
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He didn't have Department of Homeland Security and all of these things.
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And that's why it was easily shut down in the next election.
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I think once you flip this system upside down, it calcifies because there's so many employees now.
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And in one term, the federal government would grow at an exponential rate.
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Let's say he wins the nomination, which is a possibility.
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I still don't find it to be the most likely possibility, but he's the current frontrunner.
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Yeah, but he's going to, they'll count him out just because of, the Democrats will destroy him.
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And remember, too, Sanders is a little bit different than some of the other candidates who believe in socialism.
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In that he is an ideologue, not a politician, number one.
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And number two, he's 493 years old and has nothing to lose.
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He's not the type of guy who's playing for the future here of his political life.
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He's playing for the future of I want socialism in this country.
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In that scenario, if he actually wins the presidency, they absolutely are holding onto the House and they're definitely taking the Senate.
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However, as we've seen over the last two cycles here, each side has taken another thing that used to have to be 60 votes.
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Republicans did it with Supreme Court this time.
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And Donald Trump has said many times that he thinks the filibuster should go away so he can get things done.
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The fact that Trump has said that, you're telling me Sanders isn't going to get in there and make that same argument?
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And if they can get that through, then they'll pass all of this crap.
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Listen, this is why this is happening to the Democrats.
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Why has the socialism train all of a sudden just picked up?
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It's like, you know, in Back to the Future 2, is that the one where it's the Wild West?
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So, and remember, they throw those logs into the train and they throw that last bundle and that's what gets it up to 88 miles an hour.
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It's as if the Democrats or the Democratic Socialists have thrown that last bundle in and all of a sudden we are hyperspeed to the cliff.
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Bill, you are, I have so much I want to talk to you about.
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You're going to have insight that we have maybe missed this week, but I want to start with dessert.
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I want to start with this crazy story out of Chicago and Jussie Smollett.
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Well, it is a crazy story and, you know, he's doubling down by telling the Hollywood pinheads, oh, I didn't do it.
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Compiled by the Chicago police, which treated him with respect in the beginning.
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And the guy's still claiming that, you know, two white guys jumped him at 2.30 in the morning at 14 below zero weather when he came back from his subway.
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But he's going, he's doubling down even more than that.
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His lawyer came out yesterday and said, this is what we thought we were dealing with was bad enough.
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So I think that at this point you have to disengage.
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And this is a lesson for people in their personal lives as well.
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Once you get into a point where it's irrational and that truth and facts don't matter anymore,
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so you're in a delusionary world, you've got to get away.
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And I feel bad for any human being that self-destructs that way.
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But the political story here, Kamala Harris and Cory Booker, two senators, in my opinion, have destroyed their credibility forever.
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So cast members, cast members of Empire have come out and said, this is horrible.
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Because both Booker and Harris, on their resume, have the witch-hunting against Brett Kavanaugh.
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And I'll submit to you that no American is going to vote for a—well, I shouldn't even say that, because we live in a different country now.
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And Harris had a pretty good shot at the number two spot on a Biden ticket.
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But now, if Biden puts her there, all you're going to hear about is Jussie Smollett.
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I mean, Trump will go to town on that, and so will Pence like crazy.
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So that's a big unintended consequence of this whole thing that the media will never report.
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The second big story off this is that many millions of Americans now believe CNN is trash.
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I think you're thinking of Brian Stelter, potentially?
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He comes out, and he says, he says, on the air, mainstream media covered Smollett responsibly.
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I just got them from last night for CNN cable news.
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They have declined in the last few weeks about 20, 25 percent.
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Because MSNBC, what they did was they just ignored it, if you can believe it.
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They were all over Smollett when it first started.
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And then the usual virtue signaling that they do.
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And then when it turned, what MSNBC did, and this is all corporate, we've discussed this before,
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they're ordered what to do and say, was they didn't cover it.
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So the liberals who don't want to see this or hear this anymore, they went to MSNBC because
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even they couldn't stomach the lies coming out of CNN.
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I mean, so you've got two really big stories off Smollett.
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You've got the disintegration of two presidential candidates and the disintegration of CNN.
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Now, how long people remember, I don't know, but it can be brought up at any time.
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Well, you have, may I, have one more big story.
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One other story that is big and yet undeveloped.
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And that is, how much time will he get for this?
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Now he's accused of sending his own letter to himself, a threatening letter to himself.
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If you did that, the penalty is seven to ten years for just postal fraud.
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If this guy, he is facing from basic sentencing eight to 13 years.
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A city where you can carry a gun, be a gang member, and they won't even give you any jail
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And that is, if this guy, we have 30, on the Blaze today, we have added, last weekend
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a reporter went through and they found like 20 different stories that were fake.
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Today, the Blaze has a comprehensive story on 30 of these fake left-wing, you know, I was
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victimized somehow or another by Donald Trump supporter.
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If you don't make an example out of this guy, there is no truth on the local level.
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So what's going to happen is they're going to, the lawyers for Smollett will go in and
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say, our client has psychological and emotional problems.
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He'll pay a fine for all the expenses that the Chicago PD put out.
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We're with Bill O'Reilly on the Glenn Beck Program.
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We're talking about the loss of Amazon to New York and what that means politically.
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The New York Times had a deal on their daily podcast today about what it means for New York.
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And they were so arrogant saying, well, New York doesn't really need Amazon and we'll get
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Quote, we create in New York City thousands of jobs every month anyway.
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But what do the real people think on the streets?
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And, you know, from Bill O'Reilly's house, there is a vantage point to where you can look
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down at the little villages and towns where real people actually live.
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How are the average Democrats looking at, you know, job creation?
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These are serial killers when it comes to job creation.
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Number one, I'm glad you follow the New York Times because I don't.
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So little Andrew Cuomo, the governor of New York State, and I use the word little because
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he's shrinking in my estimation almost every day.
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Little Andrew Cuomo comes out two weeks ago and says, we are $2.5 billion light up.
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So we expected $2.5 billion more taxes in New York State.
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And the reason we don't have them is because large wage earners like Glenn Beck, and he
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No, you're in Connecticut, but we have moved out.
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So then the New York Times comes in and says, oh, no, we don't need Amazon.
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Then they're, of course, contradicting little Andrew.
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Now, I don't, your question before the break was, are the folks who elected Ocasio-Cortez going
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to wise up and see what she's peddling is hurtful to them and the country?
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And I'll tell you, I don't know if the news penetrates now through to 75% of the American
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But 75% of us are so addicted to the machines and everything else that they don't.
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Here's Ocasio-Cortez trying to explain how taxes work to a show that, you know, will
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Why are you trying to take all our money away from us?
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We just signed to Showtime, and now you're trying to put the wild tax on a billionaire.
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Please look straight to camera and explain the tax for the dumb motherf***er that keep
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I thought I was just going to take $70 million away from me.
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So a marginal tax rate is saying, if you make more than $10 million in one year, which
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If you make more than $10 million in one year, your $10 million and $1 gets taxed at 70%,
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which, by the way, we used to have marginal tax rates under Republican presidents of 90%,
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and it was when we experienced some of the largest rates of economic tax.
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Like, she totally explained it, and I don't have $10 million, but even though I'm just like,
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And it really comes down to the question of, isn't $10 million enough?
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Like, when, at what point is it immoral that we're building Jeff Bezos a helipad when we
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have the most amount of homeless people in New York City?
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Okay, so what you have now is somebody who really wants to be a Kardashian, all right?
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She doesn't understand that anybody making $10 million is already paying 50% of that.
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Okay, now, at a corporate level, I think the government should go in there, and I don't
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think Amazon should be paying no taxes, which they did last year.
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But for me, when I earn money, you know, I pay half, half in state and federal taxes, and
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Achievement should be celebrated, not punished.
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All right, Bill, let me switch subjects here in the last few minutes.
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The Mueller investigation is supposed to be finished next week.
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But I think the indications are that the new attorney general made a call to Mueller and
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And I have that on fairly reliable information, as Stu always knows.
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Okay, so I'm going to go with it, that Mueller will put out something, but it's not going
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The way that this works, Bill, is that it basically falls onto Barr to do a summary of
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And then Barr doesn't have to make that public.
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And I don't believe there's going to be anybody in Barr's office going to put it out.
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Because they're so scared now, the Department of Justice, that they're not going to do that.
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But as soon as he goes over to the Hill and gets into the committees and says, this is
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But you're not going to get an accurate appraisal of it.
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So Schiff and those guys, they're going to spin it negative no matter what it is.
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And then the Republicans, even though it was terrible, they'd say it isn't terrible.
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So the folks will not get a real accurate barometer.
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And then, of course, the news agencies won't report it accurately.
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Unless there is a charge leveled against Donald Trump, it means nothing.
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And if it were, it would have already leaked out.
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And you guys have this on tape, and you can play it back.
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It's going to be Donald Trump did not understand that his organization was violating the spirit
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of our elections by interacting with Russian agents, bad actors.
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They're going to use that word during the campaign.
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And the Russians tried to subvert our election, but the Trump campaign was so naive and so distracted
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and so incompetent that it played into their hands, the Russians' hands.
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Because what we're going to get, essentially, if I'm reading this right,
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is we're going to get Barr's report, a Trump appointee's report,
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No, you'll get the Mueller report some down the road.
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The people he briefs can't distort it and will, and the press, of course,
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will never report accurately because they can't.
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They've already convicted Trump of Russian collusion.
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And then the people who are invested in Trump, who have defended him,
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can't certainly say, oh, he did something wrong.
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Will this have to be subpoenaed to get the actual full report down the line?
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I mean, you can't say, we're not going to show it to you.
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I don't know if I'd go there in that challenge with me there, Bill.
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If you haven't listened to my podcast that happens once a week, you really need to.
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It's sometimes a 90-minute conversation with deep, deep thinkers, people that are in the
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news, and then people like Rabbi Lappin, who once in a while, you'll just learn so much
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If you, you know, about once or twice a year, I get a chance to spend time with him.
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And he's always just a fountain of information and wisdom that I asked him to come and do
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And the most basic of human questions, who are we?
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If it was, we'd talk about the creation of the universe.
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And fundamental to that is this basic question of what are we?
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Are we nothing but a creature on the continuum that starts with bacteria and moves up to people?
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Or are we a completely different creature, as I say, touched by the finger of God?
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That's really what we have to ask ourselves, because everything flows out of that.
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Once we decide that question, and you can never know it.
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When you get married to a woman, there is no way you can possibly know everything about her before you get married.
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That is a step you take with faith in almost every major decision in life.
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When you choose a career, you have no idea all the implications that that's going to have 30 years later.
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And so similarly, on this decision, you also make a decision in your life.
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You say, look, there's two ways to live my life.
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I either have to live my life as if I am truly a purposeless collection of molecules of nitrogen and oxygen and phosphorus and carbon,
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or I am something that God created and put here with a purpose.
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And the kind of society, first of all, the kind of person I'm going to try and make myself become,
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the family I'm going to raise, the society I'm going to be part of,
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all of this is shaped, as I said earlier, by a belief along these lines, as opposed to any facts.
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Rabbi Lappin, the latest in our series of interviews with fascinating people,
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people that I don't necessarily agree with, some people I absolutely agree with,
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but each of them are people that I really want to talk to.
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Coming up in the next couple of weeks, we've got a guy who is, I think, the only survivor to ever jump off the Golden Gate Bridge.
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And he's now a motivational speaker, trying to get people to understand, oh, I've been there.
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Sea lions came up and held him up while the Coast Guard could get to him.
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A lot of deep conversations you've had on this podcast and a lot of really interesting things.
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Do we have the short clip from this Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez interview we just did?
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I think you should talk to this guy because this is insight.
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Like, she totally explained it and I don't have $10 million, but even though I'm just like, nah.
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I got to get bumper stickers printed with that on it.
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Like, she totally explained it and I don't have $10 million, but even though I'm just like, nah.
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I want you to sit back and think about that, America, today.
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I mean, he just explained it and yet I'm still kind of like, nah.
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Like, she totally explained it and I don't have $10 million, but even though I'm just like, nah.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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We go now to Bernie Sanders, who is joining us, I think.
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I would never step foot in New Hampshire until the primaries.
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I would like to say hello to you and to your listeners, specifically the ones who make less
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Those are the hardworking Americans that I'm here to represent.
00:36:40.440
Well, what about the other people that are making 50, 55, even 100,000?
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Oh, you mean the Rockefellers of the United States that are sucking wealth out of the
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middle class, the hardworking middle class that's composed of people that work in coal
00:36:54.440
So, um, what, what exactly is, uh, why, why do you think you've connected to the people
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I think we're finally awaking as a country that wealth is entirely dependent upon theft
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and their understanding that the way to handle it is to either take the money of rich people
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or potentially break them into smaller organs in pieces and redistribute them to the masses.
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And I, I am the only person that wants to actually take blood out of Jeff Bezos and, and resupply
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I, that, that way, at that point, because you, you have access to the bank account, if
00:37:34.240
you have blood, not a lot of people know that, but, uh, there was a law in the seventies
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that if you, if you, if you get somebody else's blood, you, you have some recourse to their
00:37:43.000
Um, now some of the, uh, some of the proposals that you're making are, I mean, they sound like the
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I will acknowledge their robust proposals to try and save the United States from descending
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back into a plutocratic hell hole where aristocrats with top hats are beating coal orphans with
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People haven't worn top hats for a very long time around the time of Abraham Lincoln.
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And that is entirely due to the new deal of FDR.
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If it weren't for FDR, there'll be top hats everywhere and coal orphans living in caves.
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So you are, you are, you're for the green new deal, I suppose.
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I, I had a lot of problems with it as I imagine you did.
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I thought it was, uh, fairly anemic and, and very tiny in its scope.
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I thought it could have been three, four times more robust than it was.
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And when I'm elected president, I will make a hyper neon green deal.
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However, I appreciate being able to spell out the policies.
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These are important to the working people in the United States.
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The number one thing, Glenn, is Medicare for all.
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You're going to say, how can the United States afford the pay for Medicare for all of the people
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And I tell you, we have enough money to do that and it is unconscionable that the wealthiest
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country in the history of the world can't give healthcare to everyone on earth.
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So you want Medicare for all for, I mean, for all, for all, for everybody, for everyone
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And if there are other planets that have life, we will also give it to them.
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We do have borders because you have to be, you have to be aware and conscience of rich
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You have to be able to stop them from coming in.
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Ideally, we would not let in anyone from the Cayman Islands or from Switzerland.
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And if we do not outright declare war on them, we should quarantine them.
00:39:48.160
Um, how do you, how do you, how do you, uh, for instance, New York just rejected, uh, you
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know, Amazon and they said we, New York doesn't need, uh, you know, Amazon's jobs.
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That, uh, Glenn, this is, this is a fundamental misunderstanding of how the economy works.
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The, the, the economy naturally produces wealth.
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It comes up, it kind of bubbles out of the ground.
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Like you're probably a proponent of trickle down economics.
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I'm a proponent of, of dribble up economics, like from a septic tank.
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It rises from the bottom and it just naturally happens.
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And evil people take more than their fair share.
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So the job of the government is to allocate theft, which is what all commerce is, into
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smaller units that are more equally distributed.
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They saw the benefit in having, uh, uh, a type of leader who is a technocrat with a
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sweater vest and having them in charge of money.
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That is the, the, the, that is the future of mankind.
00:40:50.680
So, uh, Bernie, there's been a lot of, uh, a lot of dirt that has come out on you that,
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that, that, that, uh, that essay that you wrote about how, uh, men have a fantasy of
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women on their knees, bound and gagged and beaten.
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And women, they're fantasizing about being raped by three men at once.
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I believe that was 1973, which is also the last time I had sex.
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I have not, I have not had any relations since that time.
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I believe I should be expunged due to the, the good behavior that I've had.
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And until everyone's having an equal amount, I refuse to engage in carnal relations with
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Uh, are these, are these things being like the, the videotape of you praising, you know,
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He did a lot of, he brought universal education to, uh, the island of Cuba.
00:41:48.460
He, uh, he was a fanatic for cigars, but they were, they were also made by good working
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Uh, and he was an excellent baseball player, which, uh, I myself am a fan of.
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I'm originally from Brooklyn, but the Brooklyn Dodgers were there until capitalists stole
00:42:04.860
Okay, but, but, but Castro himself was a killer.
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I mean, Castro had a couple of details, you know, all, all leaders have a couple of things
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that may be off foibles that they have to deal with.
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You know, uh, I, I frequently am criticized on my fashion because I like to store the two
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Does that detract from my excellent policy chops?
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Um, but store, having a crumpled suit and killing, you know, hundreds of thousands, if
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not millions of people that they're not, I don't, wouldn't compare them.
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Uh, again, again, I, I think the, the issue Glenn is we're trying to make a better, more
00:42:46.240
Occasionally, occasionally people might die, but they will die less than in a capitalist
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system, which is based on, on making a puree out of workers and then giving it to cows
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And then we eat the cows and that creates gases.
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There's all sorts of cycles that I don't think you're acknowledging in the capitalist
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We'll, we'll, uh, we'll just one more quick question.
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Um, you know, you, you, uh, you've come out against Howard Schultz.
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Uh, and, but you said to run as an independent is, is horrible.
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I am an independent strategically when it suits the ambitions of me and the working class
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Every billionaire is a policy disaster in the United States.
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I think his money should be taken and every Starbucks should be converted into some sort
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of organic, organic farming facility for iceberg lettuce, not for kale.
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All the rifts between you two have, have healed.
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There's nothing but love with you and the democratic party.
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I, I, uh, I am a, a strong proponent of the democratic party.
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Uh, I am, I'm proposing legislation actively that we should all legally be friends.
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And I believe once that's passed that we will usher in a new, a new utopia.
00:44:11.180
And, uh, just if anybody wants to pitch in on your campaign, what, what, what do you
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Uh, uh, you, you can go to my website, uh, Bernie Sanders, two suits and a crumpled Pringles
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Uh, the, uh, the other ones were already taken, unfortunately, but that, that one was still
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available and you can go there and donate on my Patreon account.
00:44:28.520
And I'm trying to, uh, to crowdfund a new state, uh, in between Massachusetts and New
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And, uh, it will, it will just be, it will be Vermont only slightly better.
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So there's a lot of projects to get involved in.
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If I don't, I'm going to keep doing it at least to 2040.
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Thank you very much, Bernie Sanders, for being a part of the program.
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He so desperately wants to live here in the United States, but, you know, getting, actually
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getting a visa here is, is ridiculously difficult.
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Um, and so, uh, he is in Ireland and he comes in to visit from time to time.
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And then he speaks around the country about America and what makes us, I love this, not
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what makes America great, but what makes us exceptional.
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Welcome to the program from Ireland, Jonathan Dunn.
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I, I, when I come over here, I'm saying I'm going home when I'm Monday, when I fly back,
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it's, I'm back to Ireland and it's the way it is.
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Um, because I can't imagine America, there's not a lot of people that are, are there in
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But the thing is the frustrating thing and why I do what I do is there's not many Americans
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today who can actually tell you why it's an exceptional nation.
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I talk to many people on all sides and I get America's great because we're Americans.
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No, you're great because you're a set of values and principles.
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I've, I've shared this story with you and you know this well is when I came over first
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as seven, eight year old boy, I went to Clearwater, Florida to my grand dance.
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Then I fell in love with your people because you're awesome.
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Then with the international learning from people like you and Mark Levin, I fell in love
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The idea, it's the idea that makes you exceptional.
00:46:58.120
When I hear people on all sides of the aisle say, you need to be more like Europe.
00:47:03.060
No, we need to be more like you, not because you're Americans, but because of certain ideals,
00:47:08.320
the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, the right that you have the right
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It doesn't matter because of your race, your class, your background, your education, your
00:47:20.480
I mean, they would think Scotland, Ireland, England.
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I mean, I can go over there and be whoever I want to be.
00:47:31.040
So people, let me break that down into certain policies that you need to be aware of.
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So everyone now, you're running for 2020 and you're talking about progressive tax codes
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and it's about the millionaires and the billionaires.
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The problem with that is it might start there, but eventually it attacks the average Joe,
00:47:47.660
Ireland is a proud progressive nation with a proud progressive tax code.
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Ireland, every cent, everyone earns over 32,000 euros, which a ballpark would exchange
00:48:04.100
My mother is over 60 and she made some changes in her life a couple of years ago and she worked
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five days a week all her life and she was on decent money for what she did.
00:48:11.800
I sat her down and she was like, I need to do a little bit less and I need to just want
00:48:16.920
I sat down and I did our numbers and said, if you do a three and a half day week or three
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day week, you'd only lose like a hundred bucks.
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And she was like, but that's two days less work.
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Because I brought her right under the 32,000 euros.
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She was effectively spending two of her days effectively working for the government, putting
00:48:36.720
If you have that incentive or lack of incentive, why work hard?
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When you're innovating, why would you want to do it?
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Why would you want to work and give 40% of income tax to the government?
00:48:57.720
And then there's a USC, which is a social charge, which all supposedly goes into the healthcare.
00:49:02.240
But we are like a government like you all where it's supposed to go into these different
00:49:06.860
It goes into one big posh and then everyone just takes out what you will.
00:49:10.000
So you are up to 50, but that's pretty much, I mean, Bill O'Reilly talked about it today.
00:49:14.880
50% of his paycheck, because he lives in New York, goes to taxes.
00:49:31.900
You think the difference is the rich had a chance to get there.
00:49:36.440
Yeah, the reason the frustrating thing for me is about socialism and about big government
00:49:41.820
is you have to understand, when I hear Bernie Sanders and some of the socialists speak, they're
00:49:50.840
The reason that free market capitalism is the answer is because it creates the same level
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These big businesses that lobby government and use these policies and use these regulations
00:50:05.600
It's why America is the exception, if we go back to your history.
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You study the history of the world and pretty much every revolution, you're the exact opposite.
00:50:12.900
Because usually revolutions, and you're seeing this in France right now with the yellow best
00:50:16.340
protests, they're the people at the bottom of society, and I mean this not from a class
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or not from a standard, from an income point of view, with nothing to gain and everything
00:50:28.040
If I use modern day language, your 54 signers of the Declaration of Independence were the bourgeoisie,
00:50:33.040
where the greedy capitalists, the millionaires and billionaires of the day, if they wanted
00:50:36.540
to, they probably could have gone to the king and said, hey listen, king, we're all these
00:50:40.460
people, we are all these people with status, with money, with not well known, with land,
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Give us a better deal and just screw the average American.
00:50:52.160
I have studied the founders so many times, and I've never looked at it that way.
00:51:06.640
The frustrating thing for me is because you're using certain words in your culture right now,
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Everyone on my friends on the left, my friends on the right, they say, I just want to win.
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Let's go into some of the stories about winning, shall we?
00:51:21.140
Your 54th sign is your Declaration of Independence.
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He was respected by both sides of the aisle as a fair judge.
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After he signed the Declaration of Independence, how many cases did he hear?
00:51:37.480
Other people who signed your Declaration of Independence lost their property, lost their stature,
00:51:41.280
lost their fame, had their wives, their mothers, their sisters raped.
00:51:45.620
But then you go into the Revolutionary War, the people who fought, who went and actually
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went into battle, who lost their brothers, who had no shoes, who hadn't got guns, who
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America was not built on a great idea of winning.
00:51:59.860
If you want to win, study the French Revolution, because that's all they wanted.
00:52:03.180
They wanted to get their bit of power and win and compel the other side, and that ended
00:52:07.940
America was built on the premise of doing the right thing.
00:52:12.440
If you get that and you understand it's not about winning, you have to do the right thing.
00:52:17.960
And your answers are in your Constitution, are in the Bill of Rights.
00:52:24.100
Can I share an example with you of someone I had a conversation with last week?
00:52:27.160
Someone went, John, I hear you talk about government and stuff, you know, but Bernie Sanders,
00:52:31.940
you have to admit money in politics is a problem.
00:52:40.520
And I went, why don't you tell me how you fix it?
00:52:51.740
18 clauses are there of what the federal government can do.
00:52:58.460
If you follow that, everything else has got to go to the states.
00:53:03.060
You come to Texas, you come to Austin, you come to New York, you come to Chicago.
00:53:07.220
But even states like Texas, you all meet, what, two months every two years?
00:53:10.620
So for 22 months of the year, lobbyists can't do anything in Texas.
00:53:19.360
The sad thing about your country right now, and you've come so far off your government,
00:53:23.140
your founder said there's 18 things the federal government can do.
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Can you name 18 things the federal government won't do?
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Name one thing the federal government cannot do in your life.
00:53:52.120
They said your rights come from your creator, and there's limits on government.
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Why I'm terrified that no one addresses this problem.
00:54:04.000
The battle of the day that we need to start explaining to people, it's not even liberty
00:54:10.940
You're exceptional for a fact, because every other nation, whether it's a king, a dictator,
00:54:15.380
a monarch, an oligarch, a theocracy, any of them are all based on the law of man.
00:54:21.520
It changes with popular opinion and with elections, wave elections.
00:54:28.100
We're going to base it off the laws of nature's law and nature's God, because there's principles.
00:54:38.080
It is why socialism doesn't work, because it takes away and is in the face of the law of
00:54:48.800
It says that men are not animals, and that somehow or another, we can equalize everything
00:55:11.520
You know, we want people to do different things.
00:55:13.360
Because there's the key word that you need to emphasize in your Declaration of Independence.
00:55:18.700
You're not guaranteed happiness, but you have the right to pursue it.
00:55:24.700
If you want to go be set up the blaze, which you did, and you wanted to have this empire
00:55:40.200
So people say to me, what's the difference between Ireland and every R, and America and
00:55:45.260
You're not using it right now, but you have a roadmap to success.
00:55:57.540
I said, Glenn, please stop using the word middle class.
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It goes against the founding of a principle of America.
00:56:02.120
Because if you have a, you're Glenn, you're upper class.
00:56:06.380
But yeah, we're all fundamentally created equal.
00:56:11.560
I say I'm much more upper class than either of you.
00:56:17.680
But the idea that you have that idea, if you want to go be a baseball star and earn, like
00:56:23.200
If you want to be Manny Machado and you want to sign a 10-year, $300 million deal, go for
00:56:27.560
If you're like me and who happens to like to speak and I want to do that for free, go for it.
00:56:33.160
If you want to set up a business, or if you want to be a stay-at-home mom because that's
00:56:36.080
popular to attack today, if that's your dream in life, go for it.
00:56:39.620
It fundamentally comes back to you're an individual and you can do whatever it is you want.
00:56:47.180
Because here's the cultural difference between America and the rest of the world.
00:56:52.540
There's a saying, I'm sure you may have heard it, you're getting too big for your britches.
00:57:13.600
So many people have become a victim of, I could never do that.
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Quickly, we have about a minute, minute and a half left.
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Tell me what, if anything, is different since the last time you were here.
00:57:35.820
Well, the good news to report is I've been around a lot of Texas and Oklahoma and St.
00:57:41.300
It hasn't, the way you treat each other online hasn't infiltrated how you treat people on the
00:57:45.440
street, which thank God, touch wood, it never does.
00:57:49.880
I've had conversations with black people, white people, gay people, straight people.
00:57:55.020
The biggest thing I've learned is there's an appetite for founding principles.
00:57:58.420
Because everyone right now, they won't and mightn't admit it because of their politics,
00:58:02.560
are going, things aren't making sense right now.
00:58:04.720
What we need to do, if you want to go big and you want to actually make America exceptional
00:58:08.560
again, now is the time to make the case for your founding principles.
00:58:11.600
You have to understand the Declaration of Independence and make the case, not about the Republicans
00:58:29.560
The question is, are you willing to go through the pain and sacrifice that your founders went
00:58:42.840
I urge you to seek that podcast out and listen to him and support him.
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And one day, I hope to welcome him as an American to our shores.